Kendrick vs. Wayne- Super Bowl Controversy Unpacked

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Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh yeah, represent represent you know. I got my Transformer
shirt on.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's a choice shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, it's a uh no, this is a rub symbol.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't know if people remember Transformers when the figures
came out, I think the second year they had rub symbols,
so they were like in disguise, you didn't know what
it was, and then you rubbed it and it would
either be a Decepticon or autobot symbol. So they made
it like you ain't know what they were. But I'm
just saying, Uh, you know, some things don't translate well

(01:33):
when you get older, because it's like, what the hell
you don't know who on your team? Like, you don't
you don't know all the autobots. It's only like twelve
and you don't know them all.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
They all in the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
How this random robot donna coming. You're gonna be like, well,
I don't know who you are, but come on, let's
go now. Later on, when when more came and they
didn't know everybody, like more from the planet, that's something different.
But I digress because I will go all day on
this subject. Uh, but yeah, I always thought it was weird.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah, you're you're more knowledgeable about that than I am.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
So first topic of the day, what you think about
the Super Bowl announcement? If y'all don't know, Uh, they
announced that Kendrick Lamar will be performing at the Super
Bowl this year in Louisiana, New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I think it's uh, it's all interesting right for on
the one hand, I'm happy about it too, for Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I want to see that, you know, it feels right
to me.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
On the other hand, Uh, the video you sent me today.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Of little responding.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, uh, I feel like that was real and like,
you know, I understood it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I understood it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, I wish The only thing I wish about
that video is I wish he would have uh and
it's not his place, I mean, but I wish he
would have said something like it's cool, congratulations to him,
but you know, but this is how I'm feeling.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Or.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Uh, maybe saying something about not attacking jay Z. Not
that he needs defending or anything. But jay Z did
pay his taxes, so I mean, I was like, you know,
but I understand he he I don't know. He seemed
like he was just waking up. Maybe didn't have his

(03:51):
coffee or his blunt yet. I don't know, because he
seemed kind of uh, staggering, but maybe he was just
trying to figure out what to say.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I mean to me like he seemed all the
way there and coherent and uh.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I guess maybe it's just the way he talks. Yeah,
I just maybe from because he's he's a little like
he speaks a little delayed sometimes, sir. That could be
just how he speaks. So I don't know, but I mean,
he seemed coherent to me. Like he didn't seem like
he was on anything at that particular time.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, he just I just thought he was taking his
time and he was expressing himself honestly, and.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
To me, uh yeah, I did.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
I was waiting to see if he said something like
that like congratulations to Kenchick. But but he he he
put all the responsibility on himself, like he said.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I did like that because.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
In all fair and honesty, I don't think at this
time that he's a better performer than Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
And I don't think.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
That he I mean that that video that circulating doesn't
help his calls any I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Maybe he just had a bad night. I don't know.
You saw that video. I seen him performing.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I've seen a video where he was like dancing.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, and he wasn't performing too great Like he wasn't.
I mean, it just wasn't a good look like as
far as that performance in that video. But I've seen
him perform before and be fine like and be good.
But I think everybody was upset just because of where
the super Bowl is. And at first I thought about

(05:45):
it and I was like, ah, man, that might be
a slight from jay Z.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
And I even told you that I said that, and
because I did, I was thinking about that because he
did have issues with both of them, not that he
has any issue right now with Wayne.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And when I say both of them, I mean Wayne
and Drake. That's what that's what the objects seemed weird.
But when you, when you step back, I know you
was like, well, it makes sense to me. And I
stepped back a little and looked at it and was like, yeah,
it does make sense because he's Kendrick's coming off one
of the best years he's had. I believe Yeah, And

(06:26):
at this time, I don't think there's nobody in the
world unless they're lying to themselves and just super fans
of Wayne, that would say that he's Wayne is hotter
than Kendrick right this second.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
And the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I researched, and I only I found that Doctor Dre
was the only artist that performed in his city mhm
throughout the whole the whole Super Bowl, like the whole
every Super Bowl, every performance. So that's not a pre
that's that. And I didn't know that. I didn't know

(07:04):
that until you said I think you said something, and
I looked. I started researching it, and yeah, Doctor Dre
and I think they paid a lot of money or
you know, they really wanted him, and they also knew
that he would bring a bunch of people. And the
super Bowl performance has always been about eyes, Like I

(07:26):
don't know how people don't know that. Like it's always
been about bringing the most people. Because there's people that
watch the super Bowl for the performance that don't watch football,
that wouldn't watch the super Bowl any other time. But
they you know, they gotta wait. They got it on
and waiting for halftime. So that's all the station wants.
They want those eyes. That's that's the ad revenue. That's
why people are paying a million dollars for thirty seconds

(07:49):
on the super Bowl state stage.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
So yeah, I think it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, I think it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
But after saying that Lil Wayne video response video, it's
just it's just all not black and white to me.
It's like I can see now, like I can understand
him thinking to people that you know, uh spoke out yea,
even if I didn't agree with how they spoke out.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, you know what they were saying and stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, you got ride, you got ride for your
your artists. I mean, I know people always like to say, oh,
these people don't know you. These people don't you know
why you're going so hard. And it is true in
some respects, like if you're attacking people and wilding out
doing some old, you know, unethical shit because you like

(08:43):
this artist and you're just wilding doing some more bullshit,
you know, that's one thing.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
But if you're a fan and you're like, well, damn it,
it's in New Orleans and I want to see Lil
Wayne there, or maybe the Hot Boys, or it's a
bunch of the New Orleans artists that should be on
that stage, I ain't mad at you.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
And then also specifically, I meant like people he do
know that was speaking up for him.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like artists, other artists.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah yeah, and nah, I agree with that too. I
know today I left uh comment on Vonnie's posts on
ice cream convos and I was like, I don't understand
the controversy, but looking at it, I can't understand. I
still don't understand the controversy, but I understand because I

(09:34):
don't think there is a controversy, but I understand why
people are upset, I'll put it that way. Understand why
somebody would be like, why ain't you picked Lil Wayne.
I don't think it's that far FETs for somebody to
say that.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think I think I think it was put in
the air. The first time I heard it was from Charlote, Maine,
so he was like, yeah, you know, after after Usher's performance,
and then I heard him say, oh, yeah, well, I
think I think it should be Lil Wayne's in New Orleans,
so it's put in the air, and then true, you know, uh,

(10:14):
I don't know if if if it hadn't been for that,
I don't know how much people would have been would
have talked about it, or maybe they would have anyway,
that's the first time I heard it.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I personally think people would have talked about it
anyway because of because Wayne does have a big fan base.
I mean, he's a goat. He I believe that. I
believe he's he's one of the greats in the genre.
You know, he had missteps here and there, but I

(10:46):
believe what he did, especially for the South, like how
big he got. I mean, it's undeniable in that respect.
But yeah, so I think people would have still would
have still said something. But yeah, I didn't. I didn't
hear that.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, well, I mean ultimately, like like I said, I
like it. I like that Kendrick is doing it, and
I liked that litl Wayne response video. And what I
what I would love is when you know it happens
the halftime show, if Kendrick brings him out.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
And the thing is I was saying, and I said
it before, not saying I'm first. I just said it
before I saw it anywhere. I was like, uh, well,
damn he he might bring him out, Like I was
thinking that, and I you know, I said it out
loud because I talked to myself, so I was like,
he might bring him out or try. I said try.

(11:44):
I did tell you try because you know that's Drake Boyd.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Would he do it? I don't. I don't know if
Wayne would do it.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Tell you the truth, just I think he would try
to be on the loyal T tip because that would
cause a lot of kind troversy. I think that would
be a lot of a lot of chatter would happen
if if Wayne did that. But I would be down
to see it, and I would think Kendrick would do
something like that. Maybe Kendrick will reach out to some

(12:15):
of the other new Orleans artists. I mean that might
be a that might add fuel to the fire if
he doesn't reach out to Wayne and he reaches out
to like, say, Gucci.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Man, what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
There's a lot of artists I can't even think of
the Yeah, Boosy, master P, all those artists, Like I
could really see him reaching out to master P because
it's like old school, like that's before Wayne. So I
could really see that. But I definitely think it would

(12:49):
add fuel to the fire if he doesn't reach out to.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Like, that would be dope.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
If that came on, and maybe Kendrick had a verse
on it, like yeah, that that was be kind of dope.
But but the other the other shooter, that is the
new song that Kendrick dropped after, you know, after all
the commotion and everything, and that.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Song is dope as hell. That song is fine.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I only heard it twice and I still haven't digested
all the lyrics, but I did hear a few things
in there, and I see why people think it's it's
a this. I mean people were blatantly saying it is
a this. But I think he did have some dissy
ship in there. But I don't think he made it
to be a dis.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
I didn't see anything specifically that I could say.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I did, But I don't have I don't have it,
Like I can't remember it, but I remember hearing stuff.
I remember hearing. That's why I got to listen to it.
I mean remember hearing it and like, oh, that's for Drake. Yeah,
but it's like that's for people talking about.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Like what we hear. Can't speak certain way that we
think he's talking about Drake.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm not. I don't let me put it that way.
I don't feel that way. I don't think. I try
not to anyway. I try not to anyway. But I
do remember hearing a couple of things in there that
I was like, I meant to add I meant to
look at that white dude's video. I hate saying that,
but I don't know his name, that white dude with

(14:23):
the ponytail that breaks down music, and he I think
I sent some of his videos. Can't remember his name,
but he has a white board sometimes and he actually
he has a lot of great videos. He don't just
break down music, he breaks down like but he talks
to like other white people like he breaks out racist

(14:43):
topics and things like that, but he does. He's a
Kendrick fan, and he breaks down Kendrick a lot, and
he he broke down the song and some of the
you know, some of the dizzy stuff that he one
hundred percent feels that way and I felt it. But
like I said, I gotta I gotta listen to a
couple more times to really understand what's going on.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
This, Like it's lovely to hear that, like and I'm
just like imagining the whole album with that, you know.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, I think everything's dope about that song.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That level, the lyricism, like the intricacy, the what he's
talking about, like he's not just saying ship like he's
talking about ship, and and like that hook.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is is that's a deep bad song.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Well, I mean, like maybe I gotta listen to it more,
but I've still like kind of wonder like specifically what
he's talking about when he says watch the party die, Like.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, I think he's he's talking about he like being
out in the world, like he's not, you know, he's
coming back more spiritual, coming back more towards God and
not being out there and all that ship.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Like I was watching La craze. He broke down.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think he broke down some of it, but he
I like Lucre, I watched the Crazy podcast and yeah
he he he actually broke down Kendrick a lot, Like
he broke down a couple of his albums and.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I want to hear that. So he broke down the
song some of the songs. I want to hear that.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, Like Lucre is like, man, he got a couple
of classics like Ahnomenaly yeah, and then that and then
this other one was it was it all things work
together something like that, and it was fire like.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It was like it was like it was like music.
You were here on the radio. It was like fire music.
You were here on the radio. But it was like
you know what he wanted to say and what he
you know.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah he's religious, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And yeah he had a couple of junks on there,
like emotional junts.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah he's dope. He's dope. He's always been dope to me.
I gotta turned on to him from dude. I used
to master his music. He was a gospel artist. He
turned me on the cry well like.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
When you say his religion, but it's like it was
all real. It was stuff that I could relate to.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I mean I probably should say more spiritual, like than religion,
because I don't know if he's religious as far as like,
you know, he talks about God, but that's more spiritual
than anything. Like I don't know what his specific religion is,
but yeah, Like that's how I took it, Like he

(17:58):
was coming, you know, done with this this bullshit and
you know he let the party die, so but I
know some people was breaking it down like.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Party. I'm like, I thought about it too, but I
was just like people even mentioned.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Him or I thought, more specifically, is he talking about
the album?

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
That drinking Party was supposed to be?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I heard it they were supposed to put out, And
I was like, is this a response to everybody saying
responding to his announcement?

Speaker 4 (18:35):
That too?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
And I mean I think some of it was in
the response to like people, because I'm sure he heard
the rumblings because not everybody was respectful with it.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
But nobody said anything about him though I don't think.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
No, I've seen a lot of people say stuff like
I'm talking about celebrities. No, no, no, But I'm sure
he's heard.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You know, he he He probably sneaks on social media
a little bit. I think everybody does. They all do,
even though they're not on there. But yeah, I've seen
tons and tons and tons of people say like why
the fuck they got him on there?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Like why why is him?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And I don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I don't either, like it don't it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Like I said, I understand you riding for Wayne, but
you're lying to yourself if you think Kendrick ain't the
hottest person out right now wore one of them coming
off of all the madness.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
I just was recently watching the Trenches podcast and they
had Joe Budding on there and Zire Franklin is like
on there, and he was and he was like, and
I don't He was like, Kendrick don't put out enough
music for him to be putting in certain conversations and
I didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Like that don't make sense to me. And that does
not make sense.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It makes sense in the context of like one or
two albums. I can understand if like artists only put
out one album and that's it, like they haven't put
out anything else, that an album might be a classic
and they could, you know, say that album is a classic.
But I can understand like saying, oh well, I don't
know if he should be putting in a certain situation,

(20:24):
but that ain't Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Like He's consistently put out.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Even even the stuff I don't like, I can recognize
that it pushed, pushed something forward.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
And.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know it was it was groundbreaking, and he took
risks like dad alone, you know, I think makes him
in the conversation. So I don't Yeah, I don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Wild and they want that, they want that.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, I can't imagine. Like I posted a meme saying,
Drake watching the watching Kendrick call him a pedal.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Fill again on National TV at the Super Bowl. I
was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I know somebody said they ain't gonna let him say that,
and I'm like, all the ship they say, like pedophile
ain't one of the things that they ain't gonna let
be said, like you know, cuss words and everything else aside.
I can understand, but I don't even know if he'll
do that song.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
He should, but I mean at least parts of.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It, Yeah, he at least the beat should drop like
the beach would drop. Yeah, maybe he goes into something else.
But as soon as that beat drop and it's like
I just watched I didn't see. I don't know if
you're you like the baby, but I just saw his

(21:56):
freestyle to that. I didn't see it before. It's like
two it said two months posted two months ago. But
that shit was crazy. I'm like, I mean, I knew
he could rap. I always knew he could rap, but yeah,
it was kind of It was kind of dope because
it's a video, like he made a video basically for
the freestyle song, but it was like just going around

(22:18):
Las Vegas. But uh, yeah, but he was saying some shit.
I don't want to change subject, but yeah, he was saying,
like it's weird when I hear the Baby talk about
the incident because he has zero remorse and and I
don't know, I think dude was trying to rob him
or something. I don't know, so maybe he shouldn't have remorse,

(22:39):
like killing that dude. But like in the song, he said,
last person that tried me ain't here no more or
something he said, and I always wondered, like, damn, yo,
how did that person family feel?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Because he always talk about it, You always talk about it.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
But but yeah, that's I don't know, that was a
wild It was kind of wild to me, And I'm like,
am I getting old?

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I'm getting old? Like I'm getting old.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, that's an interesting because that's his perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
if he felt like.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
You know, I can understand, like if somebody trying to
rob you with a gun or shoot you or whatever
he was trying to do, I think they were you know,
he was trying to do something harmful.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
I mean, you get what you get.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
But at the same time, I think me personally like
that would fuck with me, probably regardless of the situation.
I think it was a fuck with a lot of people,
regardless of the situation. Some people just built different. I
think that's what he's trying to say, probably, But.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I was just bringing it up because I saw last
night by mistake. Just flicking through YouTube, I was like,
what's this?

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Check this out? Check this out. I've been thinking, let me,
I gotta get this out. I've been thinking I didn't
know what you were talking about at the top of
the pod when you were like so sometimes like transformers
have come down on the Earth and they don't know
which team they're on.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Why is that because they're from a planet. This is
wild that we're having this kind because they're all they're
all the same. Yeah, they're from a planet. Yeah, and
they're playing it's just like our planet. Yeah, Like there's
millions and millions of them.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
The only one the ones that are here is just
because they crashed landing here right looking for some ship.
So they had a war on their planet though. But
they don't know everybody, you know, it's just like anybody.
It's just like the army, Like there's twenty thousand people
on this side, twenty thousand be on this side. You
don't know everybody, So they don't know everybody. So but
the ones that came in the ship, they're all like family,

(24:40):
so they all, you know, they came in the ship.
They were all like together fighting the war, and they're
like a platoon, I guess you would say, so the
ones that came together like a platoon, and then the
Scepticons like a platoon. But then the other ones come
periodically and they don't know, they don't know, you know,
like who's this, Oh, I'm all the bot Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Know you, Like you got to prove to me that
you were all the bot, So yeah, that's what I meant. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
And in the comic book, I mean it's even it's
even deeper.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
So you was like you was saying, like how did
they not know? How can they not tell?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
In the beginning, In the beginning, when they started first
started the rub signs, I'm like, everybody knew each other,
Like they all knew each other, they all knew all
the auto bots, So like bumble Bee coming.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
In with a rub sign, like, oh who are you?

Speaker 6 (25:33):
Then they rub it like oh you're all the bot okay, sure,
Like oh hey, bumma be like yeah, That's how it
was at first, because everybody had a rub sign, like
they switched over.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
You know, it was all it was all tactic to
sell toys. That's all. That's all it was. And tactic
to sell toys because they're like, oh this is dope.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
We don't know who this is, got these two cars,
we don't know if they justcept the concert all the box.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
How do you feel about Have you seen the preview
for Transformers One one?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I have disparaging, but I like the story.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I think the thing that I am disappointed about is
I thought it was going to be more adult okay, yeah,
and less kitty, I understand why, and you know that's
where the money is, so making family friendly, the more
people can come. But the story is an adult story.
Like that's how it straight out the comic book because

(26:34):
they were just you know, they were workers. They didn't transform,
they were workers, and like Megatron and Arguments with Friends,
it was yeah, okay, yeah, they were cool. But it's
kind of how Magneto and Professor X's. It's the same.
Uh what do you call it? I can't think of

(26:56):
the word. I was going to say that that shit
was in my brain, but I don't know if that's
the right world, but.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
It could be the right word.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But it's it's basically the same like plot as all
those like Mega Megatron and Argumists, like Megatron and Malcolm
X Martin Luther, like all that is the same because
they want the same thing, but the way they're trying
to get to it is different. And Ogimists is like,
we need to protect the humans we and Megatron is like,

(27:28):
fuck them, it's all about us. They want to destroy us,
So we're going to destroy all of them and all
of y'all and whoever else ain't for the Transformers, you know,
and douguments like, yeah, I want us to stay alive.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I don't want them to fight us, but they're humans.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
They don't know what's going on, so we need to
protect them too, and that that's basically what it is.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
And that's why they split with the war.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
So it just got too and and whoever the people
want to go with them and feel like, oh yeah,
that's who I want to go with.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Where they go with.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
There's been Transformers that switched sides and became autobots and
Decepticons vice versa. So I guess it's all it's all
about your uh, your beliefs and how you believe.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
So at the very beginning of what the cartoon, they
had not.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
No, the cartoon, I don't even think started that. It's
more in the comics. The sign, well the cartoon started REPSID. Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Beginning at the they came out and then and then
oh I'm I'm an auto bot.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, at the beginning yeah, so okay,
when when the rep sign first came out. But like
I said, it's all ployee, that's all.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
The cartoon was wash half an hour commercial for toys
that's it. That's why in eighty six they killed all
the Transformers so they can make new toys, so people
can buy new toys. That's why they made you know,
they killed the Optimists, which was the biggest mistake in
their career because like they got hate mail and all

(29:06):
this shit. That's why they brought Octamus back. They had
to almost people was like fuck this, we ain't watching
this shit no more. They send them letters. They was
fucking boycotting the damn toy lines, like they're like, oh,
this is a mistake. We killed Ocmus prompt traumatized a
bunch of kids because that movie was wild.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
When I saw that movie.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Like because you go from the cartoon two seasons of
the cartoon where nobody gets killed, nobody hardly gets shot,
just like g I Joe G I Joe movie was
the same way. You go from the cartoon where nobody
get I did like the Ya Joe movie, the cartoon movie,
and like you go from nobody getting shot the people

(29:49):
getting shot and killed and dead, and you know, Transformers
getting shot and killed and dead, and in the beginning,
like that is crazy trauma trauma. Talk about trauma between
that and uh, never ending story when it is it
a tray trays you watched it never in the story

(30:11):
big thing. Yeah, that's classic. But uh, our tax are
tat the horse when the horse fucking drowned in the
damn mud man that was traumatizing or a ten year old.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah between that and knocked them as prime man. That
was the first. That was the first, uh brush with death.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I think one of them, you know what I mean,
Like if you ain't have nobody dying in your family
that early, like that was that was the first brush
with with somebody dying that you cared about.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Like, that's wild to think about.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
I might have to go to go back and see,
like check out the rough signs on the cup too.
What would be cool if if somehow you could rub
that and reveal something.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
You know what when I wear this conventions, people used
to say that, like I just want to rub it.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Oh yeah, dude said that on the on that podcast.
Oh yeah yeah, or somebody commented yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And that's one of the reasons why I think they
made it like this, Like they made it kind of
sparkly in the middle and not just the shirt, like
because it kind of looks like it does look like
the rub sound.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
That was funny. Somebody was like, I just want to
rub Ben's chest.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
You remember a movie. I remember I used to watch
this movie. It was about this like he man type character. Right,
it's a real live action movie, right, And they had
these things, these flying things that were coming. They could
catch a human put their wings around it and they
kind of like had acid that would eat them up

(31:55):
and they'll open their wings and it's like it's like
bones and don't.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I don't know. As a kid, maybe it was.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
That's why I thought about it when you was talking
about Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
What damn? What's the goal?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
You know?

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I don't remember, man, you're gonna eighties movies. I try
to I'm gonna try to find that ship.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, it's like a human type character the way like
he was outfitted, had long hair, and I remember them things,
them things that would come, they had wings the movie.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, and if you got caught up, oh it's the right.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I don't know, I mean you can't. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
I gotta listen to that some but I don't know
if you can he could perform that without something being
about the tree.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know what I mean, I don't know, No, no,
I don't think he cares about that. Like I just
think some of what he's saying in there, and you know,
they might not got the whole super Bowl in the
world saying ay.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
And you will and that's the thing, Like that's one
of the biggest lines.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
So I mean, and I feel like that would be fine,
like they would be fine with that. But certified pediphi like, yo, yeah,
that's that's crazy as hell. And I still I'm still

(33:34):
tired of the song. But I know the great I
know the greatness is to be I hear it because
on TikTok I heard her still in the top ten.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure that ships.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So did you see the uh private space walk? No? Yeah,
uh space X launched Shuttle.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know that's private so and it has two private people,
a billionaire and an engineer. But they're just regular citizens.
I mean, he's a billionaire, so in a spaceship and
he went out in space like it's the first time
that anybody that's not an astronaut walked in space. And
he popped out, looked like he had a uh, and

(34:25):
people was like astronauts have to wear NASA got these
big ass suits and stuff. Dude looked like he had
a race car suit on like when he popped out
like this, it was all tight and had a little helmet.
He just popped out that. I don't know how far.
I don't know if they went far or what. But
but yeah, that's wild to me. That's a big thing,

(34:47):
even though you know, despite what I feel about Elon
Musk and some of the stuff he's doing, Like, I
think this will be innovative. I would I would like
it better if you try to solve the homeless problem.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
But but I think.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
This is innovative and it does lead to other innovative stuff.
But I still shoot him no bail. But yeah, that
was big. And I see a lot of people saying
to they should get the astronauts that are stranded.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
One thing I wanted to say.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I wanted to say last week, astronauts are stranded by
way of language, Like I don't think people understand they're
on the space station.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
There's a bunch of people on the space station one two.
They have all the.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Food they need, and people keep constantly coming up there.
So every time somebody comes up there, they bring food.
They're not going to starve to death. Like they could
probably stay there for another year if they needed to.
So it's not really stranded like people here. I think
the news, you know, the media, they need that sensationalism,

(36:06):
Like two astronauts are stranded because Boeing's Space Shuttle is
jacked up or they can't get back on that space shuttle.
They could send another space shut up there and go
get them, but they're they're fixing the space shuttle, the
one that they have, so they're they're technically stranded because

(36:28):
they don't want to Actually the space shuttle works, they're
just concerned with some of the parts on it.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
They're concerned with re entry because you know, it's hot.
Burns up for all my uh, fake spacers, people that
don't think space is real and they're up there for real. Yeah,
they burn up when they come into the atmosphere. So
they're afraid that something might malfunction. So that's what they're doing.

(36:55):
So technically they are stranded because they can't you know,
they don't want to leave. They feel like they can't leave.
But it's not like a normal stranded like when they
when the news reports it, it's like they're about to die,
you know what I mean. Like that's how the news
reports it, like they about to die. Nah, they're not.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
They're out there with people, a bunch of people from
all different countries because everybody is an international space station.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
That's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I don't think people like we got Chinese people, Russian,
all these people working together like in space, but we
can't work.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Together down here. That's another that's another topic. But yeah,
they're all working together.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
They all bring food when they come up there, they
bring their own little you know.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is their video of this? I would like to see
them like, yeah, there's a video on there.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, they're up there. They have twenty four hour feed.
I watch it all the time. It's on YouTube and
it's on IG. They post, but they post on IG's
it's somebody posting. I think it's a community because it's
different people sometimes posting. The NASA runs it or is
a community IG like with everybody. But yeah, they they're

(38:06):
they're up, they're chilling. They fine, They all right, they'll
be all right.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I don't think there will be a problem because worst
case scenario, they'll it's a lot of money to launch
another space shuttle, you know, and have more people go
and pick them up.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
But that's why people were like, won't Eli must go.
But they're doing experiments.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I think they're they're actually trying to fix the Space
Shuttle to make sure it's fine now and in the future.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
So I mean they may like to be back home.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, yeah, they were supposed to be back home, so
you know how that is, like if you have it
in your mind, I'm sure they want to see their families,
they want to you know, see their kids. They've been
up there for a while, so I'm sure they want to,
you know, do all that.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
So it's not like, nah, you know, like this is
all right.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
And then it's like who knows the what kind of
mental uh you know, mental strain or mental maybe uh
you know, what kind of thoughts or what a person
is thinking mentally in space like you know, and then
you can't go back.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
So it's like, yeah, psychologically it could be a toll,
more of a toll we have.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
No evidence of like the alien monsters and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
So yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
There's you know, there may they may see some stuff
lying around. Speaking of these tracks, did you watch the debate.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I did not watch the debate, but I've seen clips.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Now, yeah, that was a dumpster fire for Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
And what's funny is only his.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Super base, the people that are basically calt behavior has
said that he didn't lose. Everybody else, even the Republicans
on Fox News talked about how bad he did and
how acid nine he is.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Now, I.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
The baits are weird for me because I don't see them.
I know they say swing voters. I don't know how
many swing voters there are these days, it seems like,
and it could be the loud minority, because I think

(40:44):
a lot of what we see online and social media
is the loud minority. I think more people are together
as far as thinking wise, like they're not so extreme,
but there are a lot of extreme extremers, and I
think that's what we hear a lot. We hear a
lot of the extremers. But at the same time, I

(41:06):
think I don't know how debates worked this late in
the game.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
I think everybody already has already had has.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Who they're gonna vote for. Like, I don't think it
changes anything. I don't think these debates it should. Let
me put it that way, It especially on Donald Trump's side,
like to see him just blatantly lie a lot, which
we already knew he did. And in all disclaimer, you

(41:40):
may say I'm biased, because I am. Uh, I'm biased
against stupid assholes.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
When he was like they have, yeah, they have once
the baby comes up, they kill.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, that was that's crazy, Like that's crazy. And I
seen people trying to justify like, well, you don't know
what's going on. I'm like, what is it a stillborn?
Like a still born is dead already. I mean, I
know this is a hard topic, so I guess trigger warner,
but you know, if it's a stillborn, that's one thing.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
That's not what he said.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
He said they're having abortions at nine months or when
the baby comes out. That's fucking murder. Like that's not
abortion no more, that's murder. So yeah, that that shit
they said. They fact checked him and he told thirty
three untruths and Kamala turn told one, which I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
I don't know what that was. I don't know his
thirty three.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I mean I could I couldn't think what his thirty
three was, but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Like one of my takeaways was like what did Donald
Trump be doing? Because I've seen him on a couple
occasions where he seems unprepared or he don't know he
does about certain.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Things he doesn't. And that's the thing that I don't understand. Like,
regardless of if you think Kamala is going to be
a good leader or whatever, whatever the reason you're not
voting for her, you got to say to yourself, she's
definitely more prepared, she knows more. She's in one of
the jobs right now, so she has more behind the curtain.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
And he is not. Like he's on the opposite spectrum.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like regardless of how you feel, I don't know how
anybody can't see that, Like anybody that supports Trump right now,
like I said, they're just they're part of his.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Cult. Like they're part of that.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Like there's a bunch of Republicans that are hardcore Republicans
super right that is like, nah, bro, like this ain't
it because they know, Like, regardless of how you feel,
the only people that are supporting him now are people
that like what he's saying. They like his rhetoric. And
that's it. That's why I ain't got time for him.

(43:58):
I know people are always like.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Well, how you gonna not I ain't gonna unfollow people
because of their political or gonna not talk to people
because they're man.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
It comes a point where I'm like, listen, I don't
need to lose no brain cells over talking to you.
So I'm fine peace. Whether you want to unfollow me
or whatever, like I don't care. So that's where I'm at.
But the other thing I hear a lot is I
heard somebody say, well, y'all don't know if they're eating dogs,

(44:31):
and I was.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Like, okay, these people are wilding like they're wild.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
And the other thing I saw today was people saying
why did why did they have that fat checked ahead
of time? It must have been going on. I'm like, no,
jd Vance been saying this shit since Monday. He been
saying that bullshit from on true social probably, but he's

(45:01):
been saying it.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
And repeating it and repeating it.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And that's why Trump said it, and that's why they
checked into it like they had it beforehand because they
already knew they you know, Trump's playbook, and it's crazy,
it's crazy. The other thing I saw that I'm not sure.

(45:26):
I'm not the greatest, Like I don't know everything about
the political system. But there's some stuff I do know,
and also there's stuff that you can look up. So
people are saying, well, why isn't she doing what she's
doing now, I'm like, she's the fucking vice president, She's
not the president. Like you don't do you not understand that?

(45:47):
You understand the vice president's job. So if you don't
for political education, I'm not gonna talk down to people.
I'm gonna try not to because sometimes I get upset
because we have a fucking whole world world at our fingertips.
You can just google it and and and yes, you
gotta check your sources, check all that ship, all that,

(46:08):
all that aside.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
You can do that.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Like if you if you just want to spit, if
you want to be part of the conversation and be truly,
I guess what's the word I'm looking for? Uh, I
guess real or or.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Damn, I don't know what word I'm looking for. Genuine?
I guess maybe genuine.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, if you want to be genuine in your questioning
of I have no problem with that.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
I have no problem that's what you should do.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Like, I'm not telling you to just vote for her,
because I mean, I would tell you that, but I
understand if you're not going to do that, so just
be genuine. Look look up ship like they're like, well,
she ain't do none of this stuff now, Like vice
president does not make laws. They cannot put their own

(47:00):
legislation into our policies. In the practice, they can't.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
It's no.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Their main jobs are to take over as president if
something happens to the president, be the head of the Senate,
and they can tie break, uh, decisions in the Senate.
They can tie break and be the deciding factor of
certain things.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
And recently recent years, vice president has become more in
the forefront than in the past. In the past, it
wasn't like this, like the vice president wasn't like this
much in the forefront. And and in respect to that,
I think she has been quiet because she's not as

(47:48):
much in the forefront. And people keep saying that too, like, well,
where has she been at she even though on her
vice president's duties, Like vice president historically hasn't been a
big figure. It hasn't been a very visual figure like
it's always been about the president. But just recently, you know,

(48:13):
people people are used to like Biden and Obama and
they're like Boden was a big figure, like he was.
I think it's just their dynamic that made like made it,
and maybe a few other vice presidents were But can
you name vice president? Like name name a president in
the past, can you name their vice president? That's what
I always say to people, like most likely no, Like

(48:34):
if you think back to the president's like even like
John F. Kenney or or uh old presidence, like George Watshon,
Like who's his vice bresident?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
I don't know. I remember al Gore, al Gore, Yeah,
I remember al Gore. Al Gore made an internet though,
so he basically created the internet.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Uh so, basically it was a victory for Kamala Harris
the first debate, like she under debate.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, but as you were saying, you don't.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Know if it affect anything as far as it may
though it may swing.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
There's things called swing voters.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't know if I believe that there's a big
number of swing voters, especially now. I think this is
a very polarizing, as a lot of elections are, but
I think this is even more polarizing election than in
the past.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
It reminds me of Barack. It was that two thousand
and eight.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, Like.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
I just remember that, Like it reminds me of that.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
You said you thought she was about to say.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Oh yeah, that one part. And it's funny because I
don't know if you saw the video online when they
asked her her favorite cuss words, like he's like, I
can't say it, and then she says it starts with
an M and ends with a.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Motherfucker. As he started cracking up, and then they played
that clip. She was like this former president.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
But as soon as she said that shit, I was like,
she about to say motherfucker because and that's where he
gets you with the stuff he said. That was the
first time, like she was disgusted at the stuff that
he was saying. Not the first time, but just like
it was like, what are you talking about? Like you're

(50:40):
talking about this. And when she was talking about him
inviting the talent band in Camp David, people be claiming
their patriots and all this stuff, but he does that
and she, you know, she explained that really well, like
you know, this is a sacred place that they invite
some of the best world leaders that they feel are
great leaders and care for their people, and you want

(51:03):
to invite the talent ban. There these people that don't destroyed.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
A lot of stuff in terroristic attacks, you know, And
to be clear, not everybody over there is tally Band.
I know, people be like Taliban, it's in the Middle East,
and I'm like, it's not a fucking country. Like it's
a small terrorist group amongst these other people that are
scared of them too, just because they're the same ethnic

(51:30):
group or whatever. It doesn't matter. But yeah, she you know,
she was talking about that. I do think the debate
was very not off the rails besides what he was saying,
and I think that's because of the rules, a lot
of those rules he wanted to come up with. But

(51:51):
I do think it was cool, Like the mics are
turned off. If they weren't talking, no audience, think it
would have been it would have been a ship show
if they had a live audience, because I think a
lot of a lot of people would have been in there.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Like what is it talking about. I watched the whole debate.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I wasn't playing on watching the whole debate, but it's
so in an hour and a half, I think, yeah,
I think ninety minutes. There's only two commercial breaks. So
I was there and there's two breaks. Is when I
went to the bathroom. So I watched the whole thing
from beginning to end. And I didn't think I was
going to I just wanted to see a little bit.
But when they started getting into it, I'm like shit.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
And then she looking at their strategies going into it,
like they said, she needs to.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Be this, this, this, And I was even that, I'm like, yo,
this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
This is the plight of a black woman.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Because when they when the analyst was saying, like, she
needs to be this, she needs to be that, she
needs to be this, she needs me this, she needs
to be and I'm like, yo, that's a lot of ship.
And she was but still like why she needs to
be all of this to beat this one thing? Like
where he ain't none of this? So and and they

(53:17):
said to him that he needs to just not respond
or not uh, not react to the stuff that she says,
debate him. And when she said his rallies, Yo, when
she says rallies, she was like, listen, go to this

(53:39):
rally is something I never said, go to this rallies
and sick people start leaving ally because they're exhausted and bored, yo,
he was fished.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
He was like, I got some of the best rallies ever.
He always says that ship because that's that's just what
they say is rallies are his most pride family member.
The fact that we ain't serious about shit.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
It's funny and I think we should make light of
some stuff, but it gets overwhelming at times. But the
memes that came out of that debate, oh man.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
I made a couple.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I ain't gonna lie. I saw somebody stole my meme. Well,
everybody have the same independent thought, especially if you're intelligent.
I think like, if you're intelligent and a Marvel fan,
a diehard Marvel fan, I think you might have had
the same thought when I made the.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
When he was like, I have part of a plan,
and then I.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Put a rocket in Peter when Peter was like, I
had twelve percent of a plant.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
It's like twelve percent. I put that on the end
of it.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
And I saw a couple of other people do it,
and I was like, they stole that from me. But
you know, I know people can have independent thoughts and
be the same thought. It's not always dep.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
What was interesting is like I heard somebody talking and
and I thought this too before I heard them.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
They were like, he did have a plan and it's
the what you call it, Project five.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah, but they were saying he's been he's trying to
this is himself. Yeah, he said he don't know what
that is. He said at the debate.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
He's like, I don't know what that is. He's like,
I done. They didn't say it. They mentioned it around
me and that was it. Okay. They advanced and said it.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Oh, and he threw him under the bus too, And
I'm like, if that doesn't show you Trump and John
Stewart said it best. He was like, this is somebody,
regardless of everything, he will always run away from accountability.
He will always try to blame somebody else, always try

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to throw somebody else under the bus. It don't matter
who it is, his wife, his family members, people he's
running with, his party members, it doesn't matter. When it
comes down to it, he's trying to throw somebody else
under the bus and not take accountability. And they were like,
that's like, why would you want a leader with that quality?

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Like that's such a character flaw.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
For somebody to have and for somebody to be president
of the United States, Like that alone. He was like,
that alone should should make you not want to vote
for him.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
And he also said, what was it, January sixth, Yeah,
said I had nothing to do it.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Yeah, that's what he was.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's what John Stewart was talking about when he said
I ain't had nothing to do with it. And John
Stuart pulled up the tweet that said meet me at
the Capitol in January sixth. It's gonna be wild.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
That's the tweet. And I said, Yo, this dude just
be wallin willing.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
But when he threw Vance under the bus, because he
was like, yeah, he just he he mentioned he said it.
He was like, he said, he said, I ain't got
nothing to do with that. He like, he said, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
They don't look good, that don't sound good. Mate.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Yeah, that's your running mate, and that's what you do.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Come on now, come on now, it's only one reason
people voting for him to make America great again. You
know what that means.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
I'm driving driving my work truck somewhere what was that
in paying PA somewhere and I saw somebody had on
the truck on the back of the pickup truck, it
had something like I wanted to be like it used
to be or I want to live like it used

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to be or something like, and I'm like, what does
that mean?

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Like it means what you think it means. And that's
that's what it is. Like It's it's crazy to me
because even when people like I feel weird, when people
be like, oh, I just want want to go back,
I'll go back and win the question and put it
this way, this is what a lot of people don't

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don't get.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
They don't look at it from outside perspectives. And I see.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I remember being in college and feeling weirded out by
if you will go back in time? There was a
question I think we had to write a paper if
you will go back in time? Where would you go?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
And what year?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
And I'm like, but they were talking about like go
back and if you could see a historical event. And
I wrote the paper and I was like, none of
them like what maybe eighty eight ninety, I'll go back to.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
When I was a kid. But you want me to
write about going back to eighteen hundreds or whatever, Like
I don't want to go back there, Like why would
I want to go back there? And that's what I said,
And I don't even think the professor or understood or
thought about it until they read it and was like,
oh damn.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
I'm like, because I'll be a slave back there, but
I might be in the house. But still didn't.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Mean just American. Uh, in American history because.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
You got it don't matter, but in any history, like
I don't want to go back, Like I don't want
to go back there.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I was thinking. I thought, I actually thought about it.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
They said, they said American.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
They were talking about American history, like because they were
talking about like war, revolutionary war, all that stuff. They
want you to write a paper from that perspective.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
But no, bro, I.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Actually thought about that today because I was like, I
fit right in in the seventies, Jack.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
But then I was like, cool, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
But at the same time, that's still yeah, it's still
you're still in this ship. Yeah, I mean we're still
in this.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Recently, Okay, here's another topic. Recently, I've been watching Fight
Night a million dollar Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I want to see that. Don't tell me nothing, not
that single thing. But but it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Is some racial stuff and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
It takes place back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, Okay, so it's like like the seventies.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
I think, yeah, I mean, it wasn't that much better.
People don't people be acting like it's been years and
people act like it's been deck or centuries, like since
it's been bad bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Nah, it ain't been centuries. It was bad bad in
the eighties.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
And eight is the seventies because okay, when did Muhammad
Ali come back for his first fight against Cory?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I couldn't tell you. It sounds like the seventies. Yeah,
it's gotta be the seventies, because I don't remember anything
from the eighties. I was alive in the eighties. I
mean I was. I was alive, alive, like I knew what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Was going on. I remember the eighties was going on.
That's it. That's all. You gotta lingo down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You just got to try not to get busting their
head some white man walking down the street.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
What's helpening being man? What's coming down?

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Should I say that? Now? So I use that slag?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Look at that foxing mama? What the heye? Darling up?

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
You can't call him you're about to get canceled or no. Now.
Back then, and that's what they see, that's what they're
talking about. Like like back when you could grab a
woman by her ass and not get in trouble back
when that's what they be thinking, Like that's how they think,
you know, like like back when you could say anything
you wanted to and they lose your job, Like back

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when I'm like back when everybody wasn't so sensitive, when
you could be racist out in the open and not
and not get worried about being.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Fired like that ship that boggles my mind when people
say that kind of stuff, And that's what it is, though,
that's what it is, like like just being able to
be a trash ass human.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
That puts some context to it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, Like like I just basically when I hear people
say that, I'm like, I want to be a trash
human and be all right like and be the norm.
I just want to be a trash ass human and
do whatever the fuck I want to do, don't care
who I hurt or who I find and tough tough
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Nah, I don't want like I don't want Like that
could mean a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Like it could mean a lot of things, and they
mean all of it, Like a lot of times they
mean all of it, like the sexist, the racism, all
that stuff, Like they mean it all like they they
just all right. It's like when people are like, why
I've been doing this for years, Like why is it
changing now? Why is the name changing? Like the football
football teams? Why this name change?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Like just because you've been doing something for years, don't
make it right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Let's speak.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I try to tell my dad that just because you've
been doing something for years don't make it right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
It's just not racial. It's just people get stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I think I've been blessed to understand and change with
the times and just not have adapt and understand other
people's perspective. That's one of the biggest things I think
I like about myself, Like I think I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Can do that m like in a certain context.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Like I'm not saying it's always good, always works, but
you know, I can understand a vantage point of a
woman and what they're saying and fighting against and say, oh,
well that's right, you're right, Like you're right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
What I can say is I have empathy, Like I
feel when something's not right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yeah, that's the other thing. A lot of these people
don't have empathy or they don't care to. But yeah,
I mean that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
But about fight night, I was presently pleasantly surprised with
Fight Night. It's like a lot, like, here's the thing.
I had no interest in this. I saw the preview
and I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
I had an interest because I like, I like the
people in it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
But then Kevin Hart, and.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
I'm sorry, I forget his name, the director or the
not the director, the producer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
He works.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
He works with Kevin Hart a lot on his movies.
He no, he's known. I forget his name right now.
He did he did the movie. I think, like a man,
I forget his name. They did an interview on the
Breakfast Club, and I wanted to watch it because Kevin

(01:04:57):
Hart is a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
You know in interviews.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched it, and then after I
felt like I had to see Fight Night.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
So I started watching it, and it's like a lot
to it. It's deeper than I thought. It's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Like I don't know, you know, I didn't know what
it was about or what it was going to be about.
I haven't seen any previews. I haven't watched anything. I
just want to see it off the picture when I
cruise by it. I was going by it, Okay, I
just see the picture, and I like the people I want.
I know, I know there's a lot of Kevin Hart's
not funny people out there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Yeah he's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
To me, Well if this ain't about him being funny,
but yeah, this is cool.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
This is a you know, and anytime I see his face,
I think it's going to be funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
That's good that you tell me that. I'm alright with that.
I like him in those roles.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
He's good in this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
He is good in this, and I mean I think
he's I think he's well. I like and stand up too,
So I'm not gonna say that, but I think he's
He's good in.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Movies and this is like it's like a long movie.
It's a limited series.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Okay, so I like limited series. I ain't a limited series.
I love limited series. I think they they had more
room to tell a story completely and I think they
just had more Uh, every limited series I've watched just
has been good, been great, And I think I think

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it's because they don't have to worry about stretching it
out seasons and have to worry about like they can
tell a complete story, like if it's gonna be complete.
Sometimes they come back with another season if it makes
a bunch of money. But there's been a lot of
limited series that I've watched it. I'm like, yeah, that's good.

(01:06:52):
It's done, and I'm good. I don't need another season,
like even if it even if it felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
A black season. What's that one he did?

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Story?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
The other one?

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that was a limited series. I forgot
about that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
But the producer's name is Will Packard. Oh yeah, Will Packard.
I can say like, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know all of his like filmography, but I
haven't seen anything like this from him. The stuff I've
seen before is like comedic and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Oh okay, okay, but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Yeah, this is it's really good.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
And I like how they're doing it, Like they released
three episodes from the jump, and then now it's like
one a week every Thursday, you know, until it's done.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Okay, how many episodes all together? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Uh? Maybe ten?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Oh okay, that sounds about right. Yeah, most of the
ten nowadays, ten or eight. I don't know how I
phel about that. But as a limited series, that's like
like a long ass movie.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
I just watched the I called myself.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I said, you know what I want to do. I
want to wait.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
I want to just let it, let it ride, and
I'll catch it when it when I got I'm backed
up on three and it ain't work because I don't
have a lot of other stuff to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, I got done a lot
of stuff. But we still have like Unprisoned, which I
really like that. Wait, no, did I finish that? I
think I finished Unprisoned.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Oh my bad, it's only eight episodes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Eight Okay, yeah, that's what I said. Ten or eight.
That seems to be the goal, especially limited series, but
it seems to be that that's what it seems to
be for regular series.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Now, oh, let me tell you this.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
No, no, tell me nothing, nothing, nothing, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
I was just gonna tell you I recognized recognized one
of the actors in it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Zero. I can't tell you nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
It's not a it's just like this person is doing
a good job, and I recognized.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Who they were.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
All tell me tell me David. Okay, he was that,
he was in it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
He's like what he's always been a he's a good actor.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Yeah, I mean, but not like he doesn't do it
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
It don't seem I haven't seen him in a lot
of stuff, but I've seen him in some stuff. I
always he always seems to do a good job with
whatever role he has.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Yeah, but it's like it was like, is that it
was that type of thing where he's so into the character.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, I had to.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
And there's a couple of people I had to do
that with in this like because there's a dude in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
I did that with Jan Lucas and Bad Boys. I mean,
I know it was him right away, but I was
I didn't know he was be in it because I
didn't see much of promotional or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
So I was like, I was like, trying to you
trying to act now, But.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
That's what's up. Look that he got in there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
But you know, what are you thinking from the outside
looking at because of his relationship with Will Smith?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Yeah he did the song.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's probably how that's how
it works, Like that's how it works.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Probably eighty percent is networking. But who you know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
J did he did they both die?

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yeah, but DJ kala Is and the other one, so
we're trying to come back for revenge.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Yeah, but they both was out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
If you all ain't seen nobody now hey, sorry sorry,
they weren't remain characters anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
You know, they was gonna die. You watch any of
your other stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Uh no, no, not really.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Yeah, I started back watching Power that came back on,
but oh my ship.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Uh but yeah, I think this is the last season.
So and I think it's about time. It's about time
for that to be out of here. Somebody posed a
question original Power or Snowfall, And I'm like, snowfall all
the way. Snowfall. For one, Snowfall is more realistic than me.

(01:11:31):
But I mean Power is realistic in the beginning, it was,
it was realistic. I mean I've known some people in
the street that were like that, but yeah, Snowfall snowfall.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
For me, I've never seen Power.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
You watch Power, well, so.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
I don't know if I was to say this, Oh Jesus,
I was in a relationship at a time, and uh
and the person I was with was very I don't know,
jealous in a certain way. So we were.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Sitting there watching it and was watching Power. The first
some sex going on, some naked women, that's all that
is every every every episode, Like she.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
Got up and madly walked in in the other room.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Damn off of a show. Yeah, see, so the young girls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
She was in the thirties.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Okay, yeah, that's that's damn Yeah, that's wild of of
a TV show.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I mean I think she has some insecurities about herself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean definitely, definitely. If you get mad
at the TV show somebody, you ain't gonna you know,
it's not even not even like she caught you watching
porn ors off like it was just on the show, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
I ain't telling them to do that. I ain't telling
them to get negga. What do you want me to
do with me over here? Like this is it over yet?

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
I had an interesting experience.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
I don't know, Jesus Christ, I don't think we want
to hear about that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
So I had an interesting experience. So on the I
tried to be like not insecure, right, so I said,
So I called myself written Chocolate City for her. Right,
So we watching Chocolate City together. But I'm I'm inverting
my eyes every time a male stripper comes on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
The screen and starts stripper, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
So we we did that, and she she says she
felt she felt like she she said she felt what
did she say? She felt like she was going to
hell or something like what she was watching Jesus felt.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Oh, so she was she was kind of was she
religious or something?

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
No, she just because because here's the thing, like and
her mom and her go to mail, uh, they go
to certain things Male Reviews star.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
She be getting wild and watching the ship.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
I don't know why say that she was like she
just felt.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
I think I think she enjoyed it, but maybe she
was trying not to, or she wasn't comfortable like you know,
or maybe she wasn't trying to express like that around me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
That's okay, I understand now. That's probably what it was.
Her insecurities was rubbing off and she didn't want to.
She she probably projected that you would have the same insecurities,
so she was trying not to, you know, trying not
to enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Yeah, because she.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Felt like you know, she has those insecurities. Yeah, that
happened sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
Yeah, you probably never did nothing like that, right where
you I'm gonna rent this for you. You watched this, and
then I'm a week I'm gonna try to know, but
then I'm watching it and I'm like, no, I'm watching.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
It was Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
It was a It was an uncomfortable experience because, you
know what, Michael John White was in it, but he
wasn't one of the dancers. Then there was the League kid.
There was a story to it. He was in school
and stuff like that. So it was kind of good.
The actors were good, but when they went there with it,

(01:15:42):
you know, looking away, man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
I never seen I never seen what's that with Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Magic Mike?

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Yeah, I never seen that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
I never seen that either.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
So fellas out there, would you, uh, would you watch
Chocolate City with your lady so your lady can have
some fun?

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
I would? I would like, I would watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I don't know. It doesn't bother me like like stuff
like that. Like even on Power there's a lot of
gay scenes and I didn't know that. Yeah, and it
doesn't bother me. Like I think they tamed it down
because they.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Was like getting it in at one point, and I
think people was complaining. Yeah, I think people because one
of the dudes major your blind son is gay. He
was hiding it for a while. But yeah, Drew Drew,
he's mess on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
The new one, not Power. No, no, my man on
Uh what is it? I don't even know what it's
called Power to I think I think it's called Power
Book two. I always say to always be like power
to Rek, so so people know where they're going with
the I'm talking about Valley.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
No't watch Pee Valley.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I might be all right with that though, But I
think they showed the dick on pe Valley. Yeah, they
showed dick. They showed dicks on Power. But I mean
the boys, the boys got crazy ship. They be showing dicks,
they be showing they we having wild. They we wild,
like dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
But you know who kicked it off?

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Who? Esse?

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Jesse smet Empire. I never watched Empire. I've never seen
it before. I just didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
I don't like Terrence Howard. Well, I ain't gonna say
I don't like him. I mean he might have I
didn't keep up with it at a certain but.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Not that I don't like him. I'm not gonna say
I don't like him because he's been in stuff. Yeah,
he's been in stuff that I like, like Hustle on Flow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
He's in the Fight Night Oh is he?

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I did see I did see it. Yeah, And when
I saw him on there, I didn't have like a
I ain't watching this, I just never. I don't know,
I just maybe it was his character on there. Yeah,
it was something turned me off. For one, I don't
like watching network shows that much for some reason. It's
a it's a block because I've watched network shows that

(01:18:20):
are good, but sometimes they just don't have the budget
that like cable shows like Netflix and HBO and all
those shows.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
So it just doesn't look right to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
So I just don't watch a lot of network shows,
and it kind of turns me off when there's a
network show. But like I said, I watched network shows
that were good, and I'm thinking, why didn't I watched
this sooner or before?

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Probably because they were on network. But your Jesse, yes,
Like I feel like, yes, year Line, I.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Used to watch that show, and I'm like, he seems
to be the star of the show. Like he's singing,
he's dancing, He's in a lot of scenes like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I'm just trying to get his trying to get some
fame back. So I got used to it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
So but the thing is, but but he was he
was on his way. I felt like he was on
his way so he didn't need I felt like he
didn't need to do anything like uh fabricated to get
more limelight. I felt like he was he was on
his way, like he had an album come out coming out. Uh,

(01:19:32):
he was on tour. I remember he was going around
on tour and I was paying attention, and he had
he got ahead a fire song with Swiss Beats on
this album called Staycationing, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
I think I remember that. Yeah, and yeah, who knows
what he could really sing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
He could really act like it just seemed like it
was up from there for him.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
I thought so.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
But I didn't watch it like I just seen him
every where like I was seeing you know, I was
seeing it because of course a lot of people watching
girl watch it, So you.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
Never know what people think they'll be thinking. Because I
remember watching. Uh we were talking about I was telling
you about Michuela Jay or m J.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Rodriguez.

Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
Yeah, and she, you know, with this great role on Polls, right,
And I saw her in an interview after that, and
I'm like she was like she thought she never was
gonna work after that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Again, I was like, wow, really.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, because you don't know you for one, you don't
know the inner workings of the business, like whatever business
they're doing at that time, like you don't know the
inner workings of their business. I mean not just the
movie business, but for the show business.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
But also.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Like sometimes you you when you're in it, you don't know,
you know, like you can think in your life, like
when you're in it, you're not knowing this magnificance of
this thing, whatever it is. So I think that that's
what happens sometimes. And also I think people people also

(01:21:10):
do stuff. I look at like Donald Glover, like that's
how his mom was when he left thirty Rock. His
mom was like, what the fuck are you doing? You know,
He's like, I'm an artist, Like I don't want to
do other shit.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
I want to do that. I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
And you see where you're at now, you know. So
that was a correct decision for him to do, or
he probably be stuck. I was trying to tell my
dad that because my dad was mad at He watches
like them doctor shows and like Castle and stuff like
that on the side networks. I don't know what networks
they're on. It might be on Lifetime or maybe they're

(01:21:50):
on TNT. I'm not sure, but he watches like those shows.
And he's always talking about one of the actors on there,
been on there for like twenty years, and he's leaving,
and I'm like, because he's been on there ever for
twenty years, he's probably like, listen, can I do something else?

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Like I want to do something else? And he's like, man,
that's a check, Like why why you know that old
school ship? And I said, people aren't fulfilled, like people
don't care about that. He probably got enough money anyway. True,
but if you're not fulfilled, true, but don't he might
not been fulfilled.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
He might have felt like he wasn't fulfilled, you know,
and whatever in his mind gonjured up to do something
for publicity. I don't know, you know, I still don't know.
I still don't know what. Just yeah, I still don't know.
I'm just saying like I'm using everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Didn't need he.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
But that's your perspective. You feel like he didn't. He
did and maybe he didn't, but he didn't feel like
that like he obviously I felt like you go back
to your free will.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
You never know what somebody's going through.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Yeah, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
You don't know what what he was thinking. I needs bain,
I need to be an activist or whatever, like whatever
he was thinking. But yeah, that's that's wild though, And
it's like now I always be thinking about him when
I see his sister.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
She's a great actor.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
But it's like it's like that's bypassed. Let's not talk
about how great a singer he is, how good an
actor he is, Like it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
It's not that now. Yeah, it's not that now. And
that's in hindsight. I'm sure he looking back, like damn,
not only for all the legal troubles that that caused,
but for all of this and all people talking about
talk about him.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
He never talk to it. He never he said no. Yeah,
I don't think he ever said.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah, I stopped following this story. I mean I didn't
following anyway, but his hard to get away from it.
But yeah, I don't. I don't know the intricacies of it. Yeah,
that's wild. That whole thing was crazy like that, that
whole thing, the memes that came out as it was

(01:24:16):
nuts too.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Meme meme Nation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I remember like him and V B. V. Bowsman.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
I mean that one song I used to sing from
Empire that she did on Empire, Like I used to
sing that kind of fit, like trying to be better
at singing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
What is love? I think it's called.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
Yeah, I don't think I know that, but you remember it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
But it's like I guess it's a it's from the show.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
Was on the show soundtrack, so probably more of if
you've seen the show, you would no, no, it probably.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Yeah, yeah, but I've heard some music from the show.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Mm hmm like that. I've listened to certain.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Point I fell off and maybe I thought, like, okay,
maybe why m J.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Rod Riguez was.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Saying that that, you know, she thought she wouldn't work
after that, and maybe why Jesse might have thought he
needed some two of the boosters because they're in the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
L g B, t q I A plus.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
That's a lot of others.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
I had to get it right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
But yeah, so maybe that's why she thought that because
she's trans and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Well yeah, yeah, I can understand her, but.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
There's a lot of him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Yeah that's what I mean, like like it's a newer
thing for trans actors and actresses.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Oh yeah, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
I might understand why she may be thinking like that
in her head, even if it was true, Like everything
you see, everything you hear, and you know, the negative
ship that's out there, like I could, I could understand
why she might felt felt like that, but not him, Like,
I don't know, you know, because even in that space,

(01:26:17):
I think gay men are more, you know, prominent than
anything else. But no, I watched I rewatched the show
that I watched a long time ago, The Misfits.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
You ever watched The Misfits. It's a British show. Probably not, Yeah,
it's on I think it's on Prime or Amazon. Well,
that's the same thing. I'm not sure is it on Amazon?
I can't remember. I watched Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they'd watch it on there. Yeah, that's that's a good

(01:26:56):
ass show. Like that show was so good. And all
the actors on there except for one one actors in
One of the actors on that show is in a
new show, The Umbrella Academy, one of the actors from Misfits.
But I don't see too many other people that's in

(01:27:19):
there in anything. Maybe they're in British stuff. I don't know.
But it's about but it really was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
It seemed like a low budget show because it's about superheroes.
Like it's a group of teens that got probation and
they had to clean up. They were on the clean
up duty and the storm happened and gives a bunch
of people powers in the whole world, but they're just
happen to be together. It gives them powers, and empowers

(01:27:46):
are kind of how they were feeling at the time. So, like,
the one dude is really strong and aggressive because he
was angry when he's like a bad guy. I think
it was the probation that was the probation officer. He
was like super strong and and he was angry all
the time, so he was like a bad bad guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
One of the dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Was able to become invisible, so he already felt invisible,
so he Uh so it was like that. The one girl,
she was really promiscuous and anybody that touched her like
wanted her like it so her skin like but she
could use like later on in the show she figured
out how to use it like to as a superpower.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
But in the beginning she's like, oh what this ship?

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Like, you know, everybody just wanted her, and even the
people she liked, like she couldn't tell who liked her
for her as soon as they touched her. And uh,
the one dude was a track star. He could run fast,
like he got the power to run, and uh, what's
the other dude? I forget what the other I think
the other dude could teleport. But later on powers evolved

(01:29:01):
like other stuff, you do other stuff, and then they
got together with like other people. But I think the
show is The greatness of the show was the actual
chemistry of the actors.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Even when they changed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
They changed the actor after the first season, which I
was pissed off because I liked that actor and he
was like one of the best ones. But even the
new actor was good and he grew on me later.
But I just thought about this show and I'm like, Yo,
this show is really good. And it wasn't high budget
because some of the special effects, some of the stuff,

(01:29:36):
you can tell it didn't look you know, it wasn't
anywhere near a movie or anything, even the TV show.
But I think the chemistry of the actors and the
story and the writing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Is what drew me in. And I watched that whole shit.
It was like five seasons and I watched the whole thing,
like you know, I was watching back to back within
a week, a week and a half maybe I watched
the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
I had time and maybe as longer than a week
and a half, but it wasn't that long. And I
watched them a whole series, so you check that out.
They were supposed to bring into America and make an
updated version, like they talked about like last year. I
don't know if it ever was. I don't even know

(01:30:20):
if it'll be good if they do. It might be
because the Offices, look at the Office. Office is the
only show that I know that they've updated. I know
there's other shows that they've done that with from overseas
or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Oh yeah, I remember when the death of General. Yeah,
I remember. It was like there was a movie overseas
that came out the year before and then the year
after the Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
I mean, there's a lot of stuff out there that
were shows, you know, overseas or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
It was good, I think, I mean, honestly, I think
I actually like the original. You know, even though I
love like Martin and Chris Rock and all of them,
Kevin Hart, but the original I think I like better.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Yeah, I've never seen the original.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
But to get back to when we were talking about, uh,
you said people leaving the show, It's like, yeah, that
worked out for Donald Glover, but it's risky because.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Some people don't work out for yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
Like me, I was I didn't want House to end,
but it's I don't know if the lead actor, I
forget his name now.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
He's seen him in something long ago.

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
I don't know if he wanted to move on, but like, yeah,
in the way, and you can tell when they trying
to end the show, they're just write crazy stuff that
would never happen.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Yeah they start. That's what I hate. I hate when
that happens. Like that's why I'm kind of glad when
shows end kind of early, when you feel like it's early,
like maybe three seasons or whatever, because I'd rather show
in when it's up and it's dragging on and you're like,

(01:32:21):
oh damn, and you're still watching it because of something
like sometimes I don't even know why I still watching
the show. And sometimes it gets better, but sometimes a
lot of times it doesn't. And I'm just watching it
out of habit because I watched it and I got
to see how it ends. But they just wilding out
and doing stupid shit because they're they just drug it

(01:32:42):
on so long, or they want to end it and
they're trying to end it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
But see we're talking about probably two different kinds.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Of shows too well, because it just depends because you
have have network shows.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
It's kind of it's like a different formula kind of, right, Yeah, yeah,
I can say that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Yeah, there is a different formula because a lot of
times network shows run for a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Yeah, what seems you know, it's like it seems exhausting
thinking about twenty something episodes of season now in this
you know where we have like eight.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
It's the world we're in. Like, I don't think it's exhausting.
I want it, but most people don't. They don't have
intention spaying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
So I do.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
I do be feeling like if it's good, if it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
I do feel like the way the news the streaming
series are sometimes like it seems short.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Yeah, I think a lot of them are short.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
Just watched bell Air. It was ten episodes. It was good,
but it was like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Yeah, I could have had some more. But again I
think that goes to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Like them right, and they probably got the whole thing written,
you know what I mean, they probably or most of them.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
They might. They might have to tweak it or do whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
But I think that saves them having like ten episodes,
because if they had twenty, that's like two seasons in
one season.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
So say they had twenty episodes, now they got.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Right, twenty more and twenty more, you know, depends on
how many seasons it is. So I think they shorten
it down because they see the formula.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
I think they.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Like HBO showtime they started they started to I mean
I say HBO because not not they started the formula,
but not the you know, not not what it is now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
But I think just over time, they just kept trying
stuff and they think this is what works.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
So the seasons don't get drawn out and born because
it's just less it's less episodes.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
But there's one that has leasted twenty something years and
Mariska Harkitae have been has been on there twenty something years.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
What's that law and order s V.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, law and orders is what
I was talking I think I was talking about law
and order and I was talking about somebody leaving after
twenty years. Oh okay, it might have been her she
didn't wait or she wants to or really it might
have been because my dad is talking about recently. Yeah,
my dad was like he's always talking about it. I
can't remember. That's the shame. I can't remember what it was.

(01:35:34):
But he's always talking about the main girl trying to leave,
and he's like, why she want to leave because he
said it might not be long, or it might be
some of the mother ones, or it might be long
ordered a different one. But she said she don't get
along with one of the other actors and hasn't like
since they've done the show like twenty years. She just

(01:35:57):
fed up right now, and like, I'm done. I don't
I don't know if it's her. I'm not saying it's
her because I just don't know her.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Nice te tight.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Well, no, yeah, I don't think it's that because if
that's the one with iced T, I don't think that's
the one he's talking about. Might be a different one.
That's funny, uncle my uncle, Yeah, that's yeah. I can't

(01:36:28):
I don't know if I can imagine that show without her.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
And then I didn't want Chris what's his name is, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Chris Elliott.

Speaker 5 (01:36:41):
I didn't want the guy to play Stabler to leave
and get his name right. I didn't want him to leave,
but he left, But he left because of things weren't
right for him, like maybe money wise or.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't be mad at him.

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
Yeah, I see Maloney. I think it's yeah, Christopher Maloney.
I like him too as an actor. He did, he
went and he went. He did some different stuff that
was totally different from Stateleo.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
You know, so you know at least he's doing something.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
He's working.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
He had this one I forget. I want to watch it.
He had this one show he was on where there
was just like he was It was live action, but
it was a cartoon character right there. Like I don't
know if he was on something, but he had a
cartoon character talking to him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
It was wild, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
Oh, I think I watched. Didn't he have a brain
injury or something?

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
I think that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
And he got hit by a car or something happened
in this cartoons Yeah, yeah, I watched that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
What the funk happened to that show? I think? I
think that fell off my radar. I did watch that show.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
And the injured hit man be friends his kidnapped daughter's
imaginary friends. Yeah yeah, A blue Flying unicor how many
how many episodes is that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
How many seasons was that. Let's see, I feel like
I watched this show for two seasons. Yeah, I think
I fell off. I might have to go back and
watch the second season. I think I watched the whole
first season or most of the first season. Then I

(01:38:25):
just sometimes I'd be forgetting about shows, even when they're good,
because it's just so many. And for a while there
when I wasn't doing like all the video stuff, the
YouTube and all that, I was watching everything, like everything
that came out we was watching or trying to watch,
like mad stuff. But then I got I got busy,

(01:38:46):
like where I couldn't couldn't watch all that shit, and
I just sometimes now I just forget about stuff, Like
I'll start watching something and then something else will come up,
or it'll be or I start watching something that my
girl don't watch, so I'm just watching alone. So didn't
win this stuff that we watch that takes priority in

(01:39:08):
my book, so because I'd rather spend time with her
watching the show. So I watched that, and then I'll
just forget about this stuff that I've been watching, like
that show, like that show.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
I remember watching that show. I remember thinking it was funny. Damn,
that's crazy that you brought that up because I forgot
all about this ship. I forgot about this show and
I watched. I watched almost the whole season. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Yeah, that seems like a fun show.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Yeah, that's some stuff you watch when you're just chilling
and having fun.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
When you take when you take cover of them edible.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
When you take some edibles and just be walling.

Speaker 5 (01:39:51):
But then and I'm not I'm not trying to speak
negatively on anyone's career, right, but I didn't like Dexter
could have went on forever, like the res in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
He was a big star off of that, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
And another another thing, like another case of like them
rushing to end it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
You could tell that last episode they rushed that it
was bad, like the writing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Yeah, personally, I don't think it was bad, but it
was all right to me. It was alright. It wasn't. Yeah,
it was all right to me, But I mean I
didn't think it was bad.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Rush.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Yeah, yeah, the writing was rush. It's like Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
I mean they and Game of Thrones wasn't trying to
end it like they were ending it like it was
playing ended. But it was just wasn't executed well. I
think sometimes it's hard to end the show. It is,
it is hard to end the show, but it gets
difficult to get to that point.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
And also.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
In to give writers is a credit. A lot of shows,
people are never gonna be happy with the ending when
it ends. I don't see a whole bunch of shows
that people are happy with the last episode, even shows
that I thought was great. Like I see people saying
Breaking Bad was bad the ending, and I think that

(01:41:26):
was perfect. Like I think Breaking Bad was a perfect
show for from beginning to end, and the last episode
was perfect, and then even the follow ups, even the
spinoffs that they have are perfect all the way to
the end. But I see people say that it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
No, definitely not Breaking Bad.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
But I think some people.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Also talking about, you know, getting back to people leaving
shows and leaving want to do other stuff. I think
some people just stop acting too, you know, like like
everybody's not just not getting work. Some people just don't
want work, like they're just done. It's just like, oh
I'm done. It's a couple of people. I think dude

(01:42:15):
from Dexter was like that. I don't think he was
even I've seen him in a couple of other things,
but I think he was like I don't I remember
seeing him saying something like that in an interview, like
I just I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
He made a lot of money. Some people make enough
money and they're like, hey, now I can go do
whatever the fuck I want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
I'm good with what I got. And then when the
money starts drawing up, that's when they work again.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
There's been two two reiterations though, Dexter, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
And they're coming A new one's coming out soon.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
I still didn't watch the whole what's the new Blood? Yeah,
I watched that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
I didn't watch the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
That was good. I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
I can't remember though. That's the other thing. That's how
I know it's too much for me, because I can't
hardly remember the shows, like how they end. I gotta
go back and rewatch.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
Them or or.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
Or get the highlights and then be like, oh, okay,
because I watched too much ship.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
There's too much ship out here. It's too much.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
And the I can think of an ending that was
people talked about, but it was good though.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Snowfall, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Snowfall was good and it
was realistic, Like it was realistic.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
I know people like that, Like I know people.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
That's what it bugged me out because I know people
that fall off that hard after.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
Being in the game and you know, having all that
and then you get popped.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
I didn't want it was so good. It's like, what
one of the things you don't want to end because
it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Yeah, yeah, it had to end. It has a ending,
and it has a like the whole last season. I
was like, actually the season before the last season, I'm like, yo,
I don't know how long this can go on. If
it's going to stay realistic, yea, you going forever. If
you're gonna be unrealistic, just be you never get caught

(01:44:25):
always selling drugs all your.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
Life, you're superhero. That's basically what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
If because there ain't too many drug dealers that are
deep in the game like that that have made it
out alive or out of jail or you know, chilling.
I mean there's a few that's chilling, But you're not
gonna be in the game like all your life and
be Okay, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Just not the law of averages. Just ain't gonna work
out for you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
So I just I want Damson Dampson and just to
cont he's being successful and the continue.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
I want to continue seeing his acting, you know, brilliance.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
There's a campaign for him to be the new Black Panther. Yeah,
and I'm alright with that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
I mean I've seen a picture and I can see it, like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Yeah, I'm alright with that because it's gonna be everybody's
up in the arms.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
They're like, why don't they recast to Y'allah. They're gonna
have no, but there's gonna be to y'alla. It's his son.
It's gonna be your son.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Yeah, but that takes place like his son gonna grow up.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Yeah, he's gonna be grown like the next you know,
like next next movie probably.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Wait, so they're gonna make the other characters old, like
they're gonna fast.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
It's been you know how long it's been, Like it's
it's been, uh the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:51):
Other movie just happened, the second one, maybe a couple
of years ago. Yeah, grow up that fast?

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Well, I mean they jon't five years in the other movie.
So is the timeline The way the timeline.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
Is is weird. But then but they could do it,
like because the new movie ain't gonna come out for
another five years or so.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Probably, Yeah, we ain't gonna be a grown man.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Like he will. He was like, I mean he's gonna
be He's gonna be his age. Like they're not doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
It ain't like it's five years like when the new
movie comes out, it's not gonna be five years later.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
But then that makes the other.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
Cast members older, and then they're part of the Marvel universe.
So doesn't that also fast forward the time? And if
any if.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
They will be older, they're not. They're not gonna be
around too much longer. I mean, all the all the
legacies are done. Besides you r d r DJ coming
back to play Doctor doone, but that's not even our DJ,
you know, that's not that's not Tony Starts. So yeah,

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like all all those are done, like thor all them.
They may have cameos, but they're not coming. It's gonna
be the Young Avengers. And you know how fast kids grow.
So when by the time they come.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
Out, like.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
Uh ms, Marvel, Kate Bishop, who else is gonna be
on the Young Avengers? H I don't even know if
they showed anybody else, probably not. I don't know how
too many kids. But by the time they get grown
and he'll they're probably have I hope I would hope.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
That they have his his son on the Young Avengers.
That would be dope.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
That would make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:47:51):
Then and then and then he maybe the next movie
he would be grown.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Depending on what they do with the timeline. They could
they just said it in a different time and forward
time like it doesn't it doesn't have to be linear now,
one because of the multiverse, and two because of the
stories not being a super saga together. You know, like

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the first ten Years was like every movie was tied together,
so they could do a stand alone sort of stand alone.
It wouldn't be standing alone, but you know, the time
period could be stand alone, just like they're doing with
a Fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Four and The X Men.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
They said the New X Men ain't gonna have Wolverine
in it. I know a lot of people are mad
about that, but Kevin Foggy said, because you Jackman's playing Wolverine,
and I guess this is a maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
A newer not origin story, but a newer story. I mean,
Wolverine wasn't on the team for years until later. Anyway,
I'm alright, with it, even though Wolverine's my favorite character.
I'm okay with that because of I know how the
story goes, and I think it would be very interesting.
I think it would be more interesting without him because

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there's a lot of emphasis on him all the time
when he's on screen, just like X Men ninety seven,
Like there was less Wolverine in X Men ninety seven,
and I think it was better for it because he's
one of the most popular characters period and people everybody
knows him. So, but I think it was a continuity thing,

(01:49:38):
like Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Fagy didn't want you Jackman to play it in the
new X Men movie because of the ages. I guess
maybe so. And if he's gonna be he's gonna be
Wolverine later. I really, I really think what they what
they bool said, like you would be Wolvering to you're

(01:50:00):
in seventy or whatever, like that's crazy because he's old,
but he's still in shape, so whatever he might be.
He's older, but that way, but he probably he probably
outrun my ass, so I ain't talking about his age. Listen,
probably Ben Spreds more than me too.

Speaker 5 (01:50:19):
It's surprising to me, like seeing I guess at the
end of they're pulling Wolverraine seeing them older clips where
he looked so much younger in the role.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he's been playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Not that he looks bad, but it just yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Definitely looks younger and even smaller. He wasn't as cut.
I was like, yeah, but that's what happens when you
get older. You got to you gotta lift more weights.
If you want to keep your muscle, you gotta get muscles.
Plus he yeah, he's in movies and stuff that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
Yeah, I do want to see that. Uh da damns
and interests as black Panther. I wouldn't mind seeing that. Yeah,
I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind that. Uh they threw around
a few few people.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Actually, all the people I saw that they threw around
was I was fine with who else? I forget his name.
I hate describing people. But it's the dark skinned dude
that was in the Purge. I think the Purge for
the last Purge. Okay, I think it's the first Purgeon

(01:51:31):
when they was in the projects.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
H h, this dude, That's what I was thinking of.
He's in White Man Can't Jump. He's also in.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Okay, Oh is he? I like him as an actor
and know, yeah, they threw him out there.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
Uh no, that's not the same dude. That's Jesus Christ.
All black people look like it's like that's funny. But
oh they said him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Yeah, him, they threw him out there. Was it was
a few other people that I can't remember their names,
but I've seen them in stuff, and I'm like, Okay,
I just want to go to actor and that. I
know people are putting people out there that are like built,
but he doesn't need to be built now.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
He needs to be in shape.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
Yeah, but he doesn't have to be big because he
has powers like that, doesn't you know your muscle fibers
look at Spider Man like your muscle fibers don't when
you have superhuman strength.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
What's the actor's name. I'm sorry, I shouldn't know this.
Who played Black Panther?

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
Oh, Chavick Boseman. Yeah, he wasn't No, he wasn't built.
He was he was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Yeah, I mean he was perfect for the role because
he was how you know, he was on the leaner.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
Side, but he still was cut. He was in shape
because he's still working out and eating right in Wakanda, I.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Saw old.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Footage of him, like doing some acting in the acting
school or something, and he was big, and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
He might have got smaller for that role. Who knows,
because I can't remember what I saw him before that.
I think I saw him in something before that, but
I can't remember what. Yeah, Chadwick RP. I heard a
new song by.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Okay, well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
Don't think it was new. It had like one hundred
and fifty five million views and I I've never heard
it before, but I think it was two years old.

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
But it was pretty dope. I gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
I still can't find his albums here, like I looked
for him. They're on streaming, but I want to download him,
like I said, I'll pay for him, like I'm not
trying to steal them.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
So good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
Oh Dave, Oh Dave, Dave, Dave British Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Yeah, yeah, not Dave. Not a little Dickie. No, Little
Dickie's dope. Yeah, a little Diggie's dope. You ever heard
any of his music?

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
No, I ain't seen you that freestyle when he's on
the radio.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Maybe not. Okay, I'm gonna send you some stuff. Yeah, yeah,
little Dickie is Dope. I do like him too, but nah, Dave,
Dave Santan. I think his name is Dave Santan. That's
what he goes by, not just be like Dave, because
it's one of the normal, most normal names in rap
I've ever heard.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
It's not a little Dickie. But he don't go by
he goes by a little Dickie.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
So but yeah, just Dave, And I think he went
by just Dave when he first came out. But I
know his newest album I can't find and I don't
think it's that new. It's like two three years old
or two years old, I don't know. But but yeah,
I watched that. I mean I listened to that song.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Or other music. Have I heard nas King's Disease too?

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
I still listen to that, all the Kings Disease. I
still listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
But the fact Joey has been coming with it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
Oh yeah, I did hear that? Yeah you send me
that video out of Control?

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Yeah, yeah that was audio.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Song.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Yeah that song was dope, dope. It caught me off
God killing it. But yeah, it's Remy. I don't know
if she still go by Remy Ma.

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
And then he got another song recently like came out
of Dead Ago. Another video called Paradise with DJ Keller
and another artist might be Anita or it might be
I don't know if it's said that way, but it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Okay. I didn't see that. Yeah, I ain't hear that. Yeah,
so I'm I have to check that out too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
It feels like it was something that came out maybe not,
maybe just I've been looking at a lot of videos lately,
music videos like old and new. Like I was watching
kidd and plays old videos and I just remember, like it.
I think it's halfway nostalgia and halfway I'm like back

(01:56:31):
into videos because even new videos, I've.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
Been watching them a lot, I mean a whole lot.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
And I watched MTV raps like the first and second season, which.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
Is cool to see all the old videos.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
What what what bugs me out is how song structure
has changed so much, Like just looking at old viels
like one video and particular Ice Teas video, I can't
remember what the song was, but the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Shit had like seven verses.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
I swear I'm watching this video and the hook is
in between every verse.

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Now the verse might be ten bars. It wasn't sixteen
bars east verse, but.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
It was like seven verses, and I'm like, what type
of structure is this shit?

Speaker 4 (01:57:25):
I don't I didn't remember it all I remember. I
don't remember a lot of Ice Tea's music.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
I did listen to like Colored Soundtrack and he was
on air a lot and and six.

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
In the Morning that album, but I don't remember all
the songs. But I didn't remember this particular song. I'm like, yo,
but he was going. He was going though, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
Said, yo, I don't remember him spitting like this, but
I remember liking him, so he had to be spitting
a little bit. But man, and I saw a documentary
on Iced Tea that that was dope, like how he
just came up. No, it wasn't documentary. It's the series

(01:58:05):
on I think on HBO Showtime.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
Where they followed. They do the whole series, the whole
rappers different.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
It's different, well musicians, there's a lot of rappers on there,
but they go through their whole life and how they
started their career and all that until now I forget what.

Speaker 4 (01:58:23):
The series called. Yeah, that's fucked up. My brain ain't
My brain don't work no more? So what happens when
you get old.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
People speaking of videos?

Speaker 5 (01:58:33):
Like I was recently listening to a podcast and they
were talking about how traditional R and B is not
very popular now, no, and like the the new hybrid
of R and B, like with hip hop influences.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
Or that is more popular.

Speaker 5 (01:58:53):
And I was like, and I was thinking to myself,
and you know, I was thinking to myself, like I
wanted if one reason is far as marketing, the way
I used to discover like great music and good videos
and get interested in the artists is that you know,
videos used to come on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
So you'll see it and they would replay, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
So yeah, there's no video shows and there's no specific
genre of video shows no more. And you had video Soul,
it was just R and B.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
You had you know, MTV raps of course, and BT
rap City you had you know, you had shows geared
towards particular genres. And you don't have that no more.
And all you could get is what's on the radio
and what you discover yourself and what's on social media.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
That's it. That's it. So I think what you're saying
is one hundred percent the reason why it's not popular.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
And it's not popular because it's not popular, that is weird.
You know, it's like Chicken in the egg, which came first,
but that's what it is now. It's not popular, so
it's not popular, like people don't get to hear it.
Let's they seek it out even And I was saying
this the other day. It's funny you brought that up
because I said that shit the other day. It's even
hard for me to listen to some R and B

(02:00:18):
now that has the real R and B formula because
I had examined like Marsha and Broch's album and it
has a lot of hip hop influences, and I think
that's why I like it so much. And so I
can't understand, Like I try to listen to Luther and
I'm like, yo, like I can't really listen to this.

(02:00:41):
I know it's good. I've liked it in the past.
I've listened to it in the past. I try to
listen to even some of Mary J. Blinde's songs, and
I was feeling kind of bored and I'm like, yo,
this is this is how you're this is how you're
paradigm gets shifted like this is it. It doesn't always

(02:01:05):
happen on purpose, and it doesn't always happen because you
want it to.

Speaker 4 (02:01:09):
You know, you get sucked in.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
Even with my attention span, I think that's what it is,
like how stuff is nowadays. Like I've never had a
short attention span. I've been okay, But now watching three
minute YouTube videos, watching ten minute YouTube videos, watching how
songs and two minutes now like, stuff like that is
just in my brain now. So when I hear stuff longer,

(02:01:34):
sometimes I can't. I can't pay attention in that long
even though it's good, Like even though it's good, I
just find myself drifting.

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
So yeah, I definitely agree with that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:01:46):
Interesting when you say that, it's like forever, Like when
I'm listening to a song, I'll be in there. I'll
be tuned in on that first verse, that second verse.
Come I forget. I'm like I'm zoned up, like I'm
not paying attention. That's and I gotta rewind it Like this, It's.

Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
The world, man, it's the world.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
It's affecting I just man, I just feel I hope
these kids can get it together because they just in it.
I was saying it the other day, and this might
be a good topic to end on as much as
you may disagree with it. You may disagree with I

(02:02:30):
disagree with it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
But for kids these days, school got to feel like
a stupid ass thing to do.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Like school gotta feel like why am I going to school?
Why am I learning this shit?

Speaker 4 (02:02:47):
Because you have everything you need in your pocket, you
know what I mean, Like you can look up every
Why do I need to know this? Like even though
in their attention span, like being in school for eight hours,
it's got to be like the dumb and shit. That's
why kids act the way they do. And like I said,
you don't have to agree with it. I don't agree
with it. I think it's important and I think it's

(02:03:07):
still needed. But you got to put yourself in issues.
That's what I was talking about before, like seeing it from.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
Other people's perspective, Like it's got to be like the
dumbest ass school gotta be the dumbest ass shit for
kids to go through, Like I gotta sit in this,
I gotta be here for eight.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
Hours straight and learn shit that I can look up
on my phone whenever I need it, Like if I
need to know something, look it up.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
There, we go here it is, this is what I
need to know right now at this moment. I don't
need to know it any other time. And that's got
to be how they're looking at shit like subject matter.
That's how we looked at it, like why I need
to know this? But we wasn't ingratiated with the knowledge
being able to look it up. So you know, we
learned it and was like, okay, we might need it
one day, but now kids gotta be gotta feel like

(02:03:54):
what the fuck.

Speaker 4 (02:03:55):
In my doing?

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
Like why and their brains ain't right, you know, brains
don't have enough attention because of everything else. It's crazy.
I just thought about that one day. It was like, man,
it's gotta be insane school.

Speaker 5 (02:04:12):
Like I wonder if like the school could be more effective.
I see, like some people go to performing arts schools
and you see them, You see that them be become successful.
You know, maybe if things are tailor more to each student.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
And you know, it's all about money though, like a
lot of districts don't have money to.

Speaker 4 (02:04:39):
Do that, so that's why they have what they have.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
That's why you see that when kids go to specific
schools for specific things at that age. Like, that's a
great thing to be able to do that. Yeah, my
goddaughter goes to an art school in Atlanta, and yeah,
like that's a wonderful thing.

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
She's a great dancer. I'm sure, great at a lot
of arts. And you get that, you get that focus
on your talent and you get like more.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
But it's just what it is. I mean, I hate
that saying, but it is. It is what it is
because it's money. But I do think they can change
the curriculum. They I don't know. I think people are stuck.
People get stuck sometimes not all the time, but I

(02:05:37):
just think they can.

Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
The curriculum should change, Like there are stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
Like you was talking about Tupac and that's real and
that was a long time ago, but it's real. He's like,
why are you doing this? And even though he said Jim,
I don't think they should take Jim out. I do
think they need physical activity and they should have more
of it. I think they're cutting down on that actually.
But I understand the point he was making because he's.

Speaker 4 (02:06:03):
Like, yay, you run.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
You know, you don't know how to do your taxes.
You don't get learned how to do you don't learn
how to do this. You don't know learn how to
do real world stuff until you get to college.

Speaker 4 (02:06:14):
Really, if you go to college.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
That's the thing right now, everybody's going to college to
get that specific track or those life skills that you need.

Speaker 5 (02:06:25):
I think there's a big class, several classes on relationships.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
Like yeah, that too, inner relationships with people, relationships with
romantic relationships period, like just just interpersonal. I think they
feel like that stuff will take care of themselves from
being social at school, but it doesn't. You see what happens,
bullying and all all this other shit that happens.

Speaker 4 (02:06:49):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
I mean, it happens a little bit naturally. But yeah,
I think you would cut down on a lot of
therapy bills.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
And now I think about the gymnast every other day.

Speaker 1 (02:07:00):
It should be like, yeah, it should be every day
and longer physical activity these kids be and and the
thing is you go from a lot of physical activity
because you have like recess and all that stuff, and
then you go to a structure when you get older,
like middle school maybe when they stop, yeah, middle school probably,

(02:07:23):
and then it just gets condensed like then you're on
the structure, you're doing this. You're doing the the sit
ups and the pull ups and the you know that test,
the fitness tests every year and all.

Speaker 4 (02:07:36):
That that was that was crazy. We'll run the mile,
see how long you're gonn run a mile? But you
should have been running all all along. Why we just
going one day tomorrow? You run the mill like bitch,
I can't run. I ain't run in a year. Yeah,

(02:07:58):
that that's.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
I don't know why I was thinking about that, but
it's true though. Well, we was talking about tension spans
and stuff like that. I just think all that goes
together with the way way of the world. Some stuff
I say that to say this, some stuff is not
keeping up, like stuff like that. They're just being traditional.

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I'm sure there's schools out there that are keeping up,
and then there's our school like we talked about, but
there's a lot of stuff that just is not keeping
up with what's going on with the times. And I
say that with voting, we should be able to vote
on our phone, and you should have some type of
you already got the fingerprint, and you should have fingerprint

(02:08:42):
through the real ID like there's all types of I
do what we're paying my taxes and that's about It
is as important as you can get because they'll put
you in jail.

Speaker 5 (02:08:55):
I think I did hear though at our old high school,
it's it's more tailored to each individual student.

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
Now what they're but what path they're headed down, is it?

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
That's good. I actually think our high school wasn't bad.
I understand, yeah, we get a bad rap. I know
there's you know, there was violence and stuff like that,
and it's just a lot of poverty in that area,
but that's not I think our kids.

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
Like, I think we I know I did, like I
felt like I got a good education. I felt like
the teachers cared. A lot of them. Some of them didn't,
you know, I know a few, but most of them did.
I'm friends with them on Facebook now a lot of
a lot of them cared.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
A lot of them did what they were supposed to do.
They only had.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
The thing is, teachers have limited limitations with budgets and stuff.
They can only do what they can do, So I
think that goes a long way, though, when you really
care about the students. I think it's harder these days
because of everything, but I think I think we had
a lot of opportunities we had like home Mac, we

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had we had classes like that, we had stuff going on,
even though we didn't have a lot of money. So
I don't feel like it was a bad bad education.
I got a bad education at Brishan.

Speaker 5 (02:10:23):
Yeah, I remember a good Well it's funny me me specifically,
I used to feel like I hated school, like I
hated like just like.

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
I think everybody goes through that. Most people some people
just love.

Speaker 5 (02:10:35):
It, but I mean, like I think for me, it
was like a social thing, and I think that's where
I had succumb.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
To, like.

Speaker 5 (02:10:45):
Uh just just like how do I say, peer pressure
or the pressures of like the social aspect of school. Yeah,
where As I was a great student at first, but
then like I started falling off because of like I started.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
I don't know. I remember I had a phase where
I think I was trying to be cool.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
Yeah, I think we all had in phases, so mine
lasted a long time. But but no, I feel you
because I did the same thing. But I think from
the beginning I was always uh I was. I was
a good student up until like fourth grade, and then
it just I didn't like school that much. I didn't

(02:11:33):
like the structure. I believe I had like some learning deficits.
I don't know for shirt and I don't know what
the you know, I never got tested back then. You
can't get just like I'm sure when people did, but
I wasn't never tested. But I just remember how my
brain was, like how I thought school, Like I knew

(02:11:54):
I was smart, and when I did stuff and applied myself,
I could get whatever. In college, I was on the
Dean's list for a while, I knew, I knew what
I was talking about. I knew I had a brain,
but I just the structure of it didn't fit with me.
And I'll remember that. And that's the thing, like they don't.

(02:12:18):
I don't think people realize that, just because even with
eight and I understand ADHD is real, but I don't
think as many kids have it as they're diagnosed now.
I think a lot of that is you take a
kid and tell them to sit in his classroom, like
I was talking about, You tell them sitting in his classroom.

(02:12:39):
For one, they already have lower attention spans, they have
a lot of energy. You're telling them to sit here
and do something and learn in a way that is
good for you or whoever came up with it, they
might not learn like that.

Speaker 4 (02:12:56):
Like I don't learn like that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
It takes me a couple of times to get stuff
what regardless, it's always did all my life, even now,
it takes me some time to grasp it. But once
I grasp it, I go like I can go. But
like you're all, it's just a structured learning environment. A
lot a lot of kids can't learn like that. A

(02:13:19):
lot of kids can't operate in that they have so
much energy. And you're like, sit down, and because you'll
take two kids, one kid to be sitting down doing
his work and the other kids running around because he
has a lot of energy, he needs to learn in
a different way. But you'll say this kid is fine
and this kid has an issue, you know, And I

(02:13:40):
don't think that's right. I don't think that's real. It's
I think it's the structure learning structure.

Speaker 4 (02:13:49):
But I, like you, I succumb to.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
I don't know if I ever was trying to be cool,
but I just know I was always. I was cool
with a lot of people, so I was friends with
all the cool people. So I think I hung around
with some of them and they up my status, my

(02:14:15):
cool status because I was friends with him, and that's
how I look like like cool V rest in peace,
cool V. I just remember cool V, like everybody was
cool with him, and everybody was like he was a
cool ass dude, and everybody was friends with him. Everybody
wanted to be friends with him, and he used to

(02:14:38):
go out of his way to make me cooler. So
I always remember that, like it was a cool thing
for him to do. He didn't had to do that,
you know, when he saw if he saw me getting
bullied or whatever, like he would go out his way
to make them know that I'm his friend. And I

(02:15:01):
thought that that was a cool thing. But yeah, I
felt victim later on. I felt victim later on with
trying to be in the mix of bullshit.

Speaker 5 (02:15:13):
I think I had a phase of trying to be cool.
But then before that, I had a phase though I
let what other people said affect me.

Speaker 1 (02:15:23):
Okay, yeah, I mean that's understandable though looking back in highsight,
like we were kids, Like really even when we were
in high school, like we were kids. I sometimes I'm like,
I don't know how a kid gets through that and unscathed.

(02:15:46):
I just don't I don't I don't think it's possible.

Speaker 5 (02:15:48):
I'm sitting here thinking about I wonder if the way
where socialized as kids, it's the best way to do it.

Speaker 4 (02:15:55):
Yeah, it might not be. I think about that. Sometimes
it might not be.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
But school is one hundred percent believe is school is training.
The way they structure schools training you to work, to
be a worker. That's what I feel. That's how I feel.
I don't you know, I don't have any evidence. I
haven't done any research on the first people that invented
school and why and what. But the way it's structured,

(02:16:28):
that's what it seems to me, is just training you
to work eight hours a day. They just train you
to go out in the world and be a worker,
be a producer. Like they don't train you to be
an entrepreneur. They don't train you to own your own business.
You got to go to college for that. A lot
of a lot of schools, some schools do. But you know,
I'm talking general. I know there's exceptions to everything, but.

Speaker 2 (02:16:50):
Yeah, like when you get to college, you get to.

Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
Be Yeah, you get to pick what you're doing and
you don't have people. You gotta really uh have responsibility and.

Speaker 4 (02:17:01):
Go to class and do all on your own. You
won't have people telling you what to do. But well,
we're gonna wrap it down, wrap it down.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
What the fuck am I talking about? Wind down to
wrap it up? That's what I was going to say.
I enjoyed this conversation this week a lot like I
think I enjoyed this but more than last part.

Speaker 4 (02:17:25):
Tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 (02:17:27):
I know we jumped around somewhat in some places, but
it's what we're thinking. That's what it is. That's why
it's called what we're thinking. Whatever's coming to mind? So
you got any part in words for the people?

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
Ah, I hope you enjoyed this episode. You know.

Speaker 5 (02:17:46):
If you have any topics you want us to discuss,
leave us a comment.

Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
Leave us a comment, and thank you for tuning in,
and be well.

Speaker 1 (02:17:57):
I second that, and everybody be safe out there and
have fun, enjoy yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:18:06):
Peace, you know, right thing? Oh thin o, hight thin o.

Speaker 2 (02:18:12):
As long as you're alive, you can give

Speaker 4 (02:18:14):
Another try and take a real high if you want
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