Real Talk- Who REALLY Runs Hip-Hop in 2024?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All of these reels, and I like, I gotta take
a day a week catch up on all those.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey people, Hey people, I promise before the intro we're
not gonna talk about the election today. We're not gonna
talk about We're gonna try to stay away from politics
because we we's as tired of it, and I'm sure
you are too.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I used to focus only y'all hurts. I had many kifts,
but that was my own curse. But hold up, wait
a minute. Stuff that I need to focus on now,
not that.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Get your mom right here and your money's like you.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Let me just say, we're still fighting a good fight
though we still being humanly and empathy will win. Uh So,
welcome to what we're thinking.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm one of your hosts.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Influence into the right of me as usually I have, Hello,
what's going on, Bryson Man?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know, I'm very blessed, you know blessed. You know
I used to people used to say how you doing.
I'm like, I'm okay, I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I used to say I'm okay, But now lately I've
been like, I'm good, I'm great, great, I'm wonderful because
I realize I'm very blessed.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I you know, I don't do the extra.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Toxic positivity, but I am grateful every day and I
do do the you know. I try to say I'm great, Well,
I'm good most of the time, you know, even when
I might not be feeling as wonderful as I think,
you know, but I'm not. I look at it like
I'm not being fake. I'm not being extra positive. It's

(01:47):
just something I want to say so to kind of
build me up even on those days.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I feel you, I feel you. What's going on this week?
This with you?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
For a couple of weeks, we've been out of commission.
Last week we was we took a hiatus and uh
so it's a few weeks. What's been going on the
last few weeks?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, U Chroma Copia Chroma Coopia the Creator album.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, great album. It's like it's like I'm still enjoying it. Yeah,
I've been listening to it every day, and.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Like I I wonder if I was thinking today, like
does this have anything to do with when he released it? Like, uh,
you know on that Monday.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah for me, it doesn't, but it could for some people.
I think.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think people do consume music differently during the week.
There's a major there's a lot. I'm not gonna say majority,
because you know, people work different you know, everybody works
a different shift, everybody works at different times, but a
lot of people do work during the week, and there
are a lot of people that are off on the weekend.

(03:07):
So I do I do think that it might have
something to do with some some of it because I
could see during the week running around and listening to
it every day every day. And maybe for me, if
if it came out on the weekend, I might have
listened to it that day because I like listening to
stuff in my car, and then I might not heard
it the whole weekend because I don't really listen to

(03:27):
stuff in my house. So if I didn't go to anywhere,
you know, there's weekends where I'm just chilling, I might
not go out, or might go to the store or whatever.
But it's not far enough to listen to an album,
so it would and maybe that's that's why I've been
listening to it continuously. So I mean, I think I
think it could be both both ways, both.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Directions, and besides that it's really good.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I think more so that like, that's what I think,
more so because I hear the same thing from a
lot of people. I wasn't the biggest Tyler the Creator fan,
but I did like him. I didn't like a lot
of his stuff, but I didn't like everything. I know
people are saying he's on a four album classic run,

(04:15):
and that could be true for a lot of people.
I just don't listen to all his music like that,
but I do recognize how talented it is he is,
and I didn't like a lot of his past projects,
just not all of them, but this I like the
whole thing, and I think the production, the lyrics, what

(04:36):
he's talking about, different stuff. I didn't want to talk
about a couple of topics that he's talked about on there,
just to get your take.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
But yeah, I think I told you it was a classic.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But I know I was being a little facetious just
because I listened to it once and I'm like, oh,
this is a classic. But I understand what's wrong in
that statement. People don't kill me, but I do think
it's a very very good album.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
And we'll see.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
We'll see if it's considered a classic when the time comes.
But I definitely think it's no skips.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, no skips. And I think like for me, I
think like, I think it may depend on the person
too putting something in classic status because I think like
what they've done, how it depends on how something makes
me feel the subject matter touches me in a way.

(05:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, on top of
it being great music. And when you said that, you know,
I took a little because I listened to it all
the way through and I realized it was good, and
I said to you, it's like watching him grow up.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah, you did say that, you know before, And
it's funny because you said stuff to me before I
listen to it and everything. When I listened to it,
I was like, Okay, that's why he said this, that's
why he said that.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
And then like when you said and I can go
through different like moves with music, right, Yeah, me too.
I listened to it the first time and then I
listened to it the second time, and I didn't listen
to every song. And I don't know if that was
me being over critical or what.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I did that too.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I passed through and it might have been my
second my second listening to because I always try to
get the whole thing the first listen. I always try
to go through the whole thing, whether I hear something
I don't like or not, I try to get through
the whole thing first, and then I go back and
then i'll pick out. You know, I might fast forward
some stuff, and I think I did do it. On
the second listen, I skipped some stuff because there are

(06:45):
some stuff that I like less than other stuff. But
the third time, and every time i've listened to it since,
which has been a lot, I've just let it run.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Y, yeah, like the third time. Yeah, And I think
I took some time between the second and third time.
But when I got to the third time, I was like, yeah, like,
you're right, there's no skips on it. And then sometimes
I want to hear a certain song, yeah, and I'll
just go right to that song yeah, and do that too.
What I found is like I can let it play

(07:17):
after that, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, I do that too.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think my least favorite song on there just because
and it's funny because I say this, and I might
change my mind later because I listened to it today hmm,
on the way home from a meeting I had earlier
and I was vib into it, but Sticky is probably

(07:43):
my least favorite track, and I think that has to
do more with the features because I don't you know,
don't I don't really listen to Sexy Red like that
actually they you know her versus the only version I know. Really,
I'll be trying to get past, like I don't really
like but I mean it's not for me, Like her

(08:07):
music is not for me. And I found that out,
you know, not saying she's bad or anything, but just
her music isn't for me. And I don't really like
her as not like her. I hate when people say
that because I don't know her. I just don't get
down with her music like that. It's not my taste.
So but even some of the other people on that track,

(08:28):
I don't really get down with either, but I like
their verse and but it feels like to me that
it's miss Lace on that whole album to me, But
I don't know, I need to, like listen, I don't
listen to the whole thing like many times, but I
need to sit down listen from track one to the

(08:50):
end and figure it out if I really feel that way.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But it just feels weird to me.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Like that track feels like when I'm listening to it,
I'm like, maybe he ain't want to waste that winging feature.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Like sometimes I think, like I think like an artist, and.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I wonder if he was, if he was, like, because
it doesn't mold with the rest of the tracks. Not
that it's a bad track, like I said, because later
on I started listening to it more and I actually
like it, but it just didn't fit the vibe to
me of the whole album.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
It just and maybe he did that on purpose.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Maybe he was just like, you know, there's still we
can still go here and still have this type of track,
and it's all right.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But I was.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Actually a little surprised by that song. I liked that song,
but I was surprised by that song. And he has
like maybe two or three songs on here that sound
like their radio songs, and I was a little like
surprised by that because he usually does the like different
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You know, I think so too, and I probably know
the songs you're talking about, but like, yeah, it don't
sound it don't sound forced though, you know what I mean,
Like it don't sound like he made it to go
on the radio. You know it maybe just his talent

(10:16):
and just what he does. He's just vibing or whatever.
But they are they're radio songs like they or they
sound like they could be like who knows.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's sticky. I like sticky, like I like sticky. Like
at first first, it's like these verses are shut like.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, that's that's the thing. It's weirdly constructed, but he
always does. He always constructs songs.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Not exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
No, it does work. It does work, except his first
at the end. What's I think he has. I think
he's in there shoots.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, he has like two verses of like sort verse
like I think it's really short because I was like, okay,
but then he comes back.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think he's at the beginning and then But ITH's
the thing. I think he sounds different at different times.
Yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think he makes his I think that's
one of the things about his music, Like he does
that kind of Kendrick thing where he changes his voice
and different cadences. He might use a different type of voice,
go high or go low.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
And even to the point where I think he's on
there singing and it's like it's him. I think it
is him. But it's like a lot of times him
singing don't sound like yeah, he'll will hit a high note,
a high note. What's funny is at the beginning of
the behind the scenes where he's making it. Oh yeah,

(11:51):
at the beginning where he's like trying to sing this
one part and he's singing high and it don't sound
good and he and he's he's like.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Fuck, I don't know, sorry, it's with his phone.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that that behind the scenes is dope because just
seeing him sitting there, and that's another testament, like just
little ass desk like with a computer and got a
handheld microphone and he's sitting there doing different ship and
playing the piano and doing all that stuff. Like it's
dope to see that that he's not in I mean,

(12:32):
I'm sure he records it and it shows some big studios,
but you know, he's not in this big ass studio like.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
With all these people, you know all this.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
He's just sitting almost like in his bedroom, chilling, like
doing doing the fucking help a damn great ass album.
Now that you said that, I think he was like
in the house.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah he was, and I look like he was in
his bedroom almost. I don't know where he was because
he was sitting in front of a big window on
one of them, like he was had a couple of spaces.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh yeah, And I remember Logic toom watching it behind
the scenes, Logic did well. It seemed like he just
got a house somewhere and all the people he wanted
to collabse with they came to the the house.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think that's what a lot of people do now,
Like especially if you if you got access like that
and you got some cash, I think they just rent
rent a house and people bring the studio equipment, or
they might have the studio equipment. Sure Tyler has his
own ship. That might have even been in his own house.
I don't know, but yeah, I just think a lot

(13:35):
of people. For one, it's it's more comfortable. I think
it creates a space for more creativity than being in
a cold, you know, a cold studio, like just surrounded
by stuff and electronics and.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
All this stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Like I always always thought that, but now it's just
easier too, Like you can get you can get the
same I mean, you hear what it sounds like, you
get the same sound.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
And that's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I was alluding to like when I first got this
machine for all of this, I was like, damn, this
does everything that I was doing twenty years ago on
with all this shit, all this equipment, all his expensive
You just buy one hundred fifty dollars machine and it
sounds better.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Than all that other shit.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So it's just crazy where technology doesn't win because you
are able to do that, Like he is able to
sit there and be by hisself and make music. A
lot of people don't know that he plays the piano too,
I know, well, I know his fans probably know that
he's good. I mean I think he plays other instruments too.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And then and then it was cool because even the
stuff that he couldn't do himself, he was like he
was coming up with how it went, yeah, and they
would just play it, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean that's the true producer. That's the true producer.
That's why. That's why I always liked about him. I
always thought he was a true producer. He early on,
he produced everything that our future would do. And I
think Earl Sweatshirt did some production too, and a couple
of other people. There used to be a lot of

(15:13):
people in our future. Always I always liked his production.
Always thought that it's funny because he's been so immature
at times and early on that sometimes that can overshadow
your talent, and I think it did for him for
a while because they knew their crew. Their whole crew

(15:34):
was like that, like just wild doing shit, just doing
whatever fuck they wanted to do. Just I remember the
early videos I used to see them make and just
be wilding, like put drugs in the blender and all
this shit like and just blending up and taking it
and probably high for real doing the video like looking
like I just remember I think that was one. I

(15:55):
forgot what song that was, but that was like one
of the first videos I saw where they put a
bunch of bills in the linder and fucking liquor and
all this other stuff and just blended up and they
always just drinking and Ship.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Is that the one where their skin started pulling out?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think, so yeah, yeah, And I'm like, that's probably
how they're seeing Ship right now, just fucking doing a
video like you probably wasn't for the video. They probably
were doing that shit for real, you know, So it
was it was like them. But I think he not
think I know, I can tell like he's just this

(16:28):
album period shows how much he matured over the years. Yeah,
because some of the subject matter, I think it's just dope.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, It's like it's like, uh, like I killed you
that's like such a it's like such a I don't
know if I've ever heard him like that before on
that song. And at first I didn't know exactly what
he was talking about. And I had to listen to
that a few times.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know, a song, Well, I'm gonna say that song
is dope, but every song I'm we talk about be
like that's all dope.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
But yeah, but it's just like him going there with
it and like it's like it's that song is deep.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
And it took me a minute to figure out, or
at least I think he's talking about himself in the
last the last couple of verses, are you talking about uh?
Or maybe I'm talking about a different song. Yeah, you're
probably talking about mask Off? Oh yeah, mask Off too,
Yeah yeah, mask Off yeah, yeah, last talk about him?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Because like he he was going hard and mask Off,
I mean, I killed you too.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I know, you know, I'm listening to verses in my head.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
But but yeah, mass Off he was like, like those
verses is crazy for one, because that's some real shit, but.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Like going that's.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
When he was talking about like the weird ass clothes
ain't selling. Yeah, Like I think he was talking to himself.
I feel like he was talking to health and to
have that type of like he went hard in that
song on himself, like everything, even saying like ten million
dollars invested in nobody buying that, Like, like that shit
is wild.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's interesting to think about.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
My favorite podcast to listen to, the host of was like, yeah,
he's shooting at somebody on that one. I don't know who, but.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Like everything he's talking about. You know, it took me
a little bit because I thought he was shooting at
somebody else. But then when I was listening and I
remember when he's trying to do the clothes line, remember
all that stuff, and I'm like, oh, he talking about himself.
And when I started listening more, I said, Yo, that's
that's deep because a lot of shit in there. I'll

(18:44):
be pissed off if he was talking about me, you
know what I mean, Like all this he say like
he put his whole you know, he put his heart
out there with that one.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And then, like you said, it's like every song plays
off the advice his mom gives them, so right before that,
always be honest with yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, yeah, and that's that's I think that made me
like realize what I feel. Even though every song don't
have a piece of advice, but almost every song does.
That's one of the reasons why I think Sticky was
like because it doesn't have a piece of advice in
the beginning, and it's just like, you know, it's kind
of like a party song a little bit. You know,

(19:25):
they talking about shit, but it just didn't feel like
it fit. But almost every song has a piece of
advice's mom giving. And then he talks about like going
through that shit by not taking her advice, kind of
like you know, I don't know what she gave the advice,
if it was before or after he went through, but
whatever he's writing, it's like the result of not taking

(19:48):
her advice, Like every song that has that advice. So
I was like, Yo, that's dope, Like that's dope for
him to examine that, you know, like like his mom.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
And it was one thing I wanted to talk about.
I saw people.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Saying they couldn't forgive his mom because and then one
song when she says, you know your dad was a
good man, it sounds like she kept his dad from him,
And I wanted to know what you thought about that,
Like like I I'm just gonna tell you what, like

(20:24):
what I thought.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I don't know, Like, I don't know, I don't know
how I would feel.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Mom. Me personally, I think you loved your mom, like
I think you, Uh, I don't me personally because I
think I think that I have a little experience in

(20:48):
this area where you think it's you grow up, you're
thinking it's one thing, but then you get the other
side and it wasn't necessarily that thing. Yeah, so it's like,
but you still love your mom, Like maybe yeah, you
forgive your mom.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean that's you though, Like I don't know, I
don't know me.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, because it's just because it's
your mom or your dad or whoever that don't you know, Yeah,
that don't absolve them of wrongdoing. Right, And depending on
what it is, like depending on how much it affected you, like,
it might be okay for him, like he might feel like, well,

(21:31):
if he really wanted to, he could have, or he
might feel like.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Or he might forgive everybody, like he might just.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Be cool where he's at and be like, well, you
know that was an adults ship, y'all was fucking trying
to navigate or whatever. Like you never know how somebody feel,
but I don't think you You can be mad somebody
that would be upset personally.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, I mean that's that's how they process it.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, Like you know, I know people that try to.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Mainly parents, try to say, you know, you should it's
it's unconditional.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
But I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't think any relationship is truly unconditional, Like you
might not put conditions on it, but there's stuff that
people could do to you, regardless of blood or whatever,
regardless of how close they are, and I don't I
don't know if that's one of them, like that people.
I think that's a personal thing that people would have

(22:31):
to look with theirself. You know, there's a lot of
abuses out there that are unforgivable and don't matter if
your mom, dad, whatever, it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
But in that particular situation, well, I don't know the situation,
Like I only know what if I'm inferring from what
she said.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, it sounded like she kept them away. Yeah, that's
what it's sounds like.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
So like sometimes like I think that's if you think
about it and you try to put yourself on their shoes,
you can kind of understand some things, but you can
kind of see some things or realize they're not perfect.
They weren't perfect.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
She said she was young. That could have been a factor,
you know.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, so you can be understanding. You love your mom,
you can be understanding. She's asking for forgiveness, she's telling
you the truth.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, I can. I can get
with that too. I think it's it's an individual thing.
Like you can't tell somebody hates somebody. You can't tell
somebody loves somebody, you know, like if that's not how
you feel.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
And and like, uh, I think with me, I think
like my my, my, my dad, my sister's father. It's
my dad.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
He raised me.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah you know, so I was good.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah you felt like you had somebody there.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, so somebody who and he was good, like he
was decent. Yeah, yeah, it's wonderful. So so somebody who
had no father figure might feel something different.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, No, I feel that I think that's why I said,
you know, it's individual.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Not only that.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I think sometimes depending on what a person's been through themselves,
they might be able to equate and have more empathy
for their situation than somebody else that may be looking
at it from a very I guess rose colored lens

(24:33):
or something. You know, some people have ideals of how
stuff should be and they don't ever get challenged on
those ideas. So when something happens it's like more catastrophic,
then maybe for you or me who's been through more shit,
you know, like.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
We've been through more shit.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Not saying more than anybody else or less than anybody else,
but it may be more than other people or less
than other people. But being do more than another person
gives you a different perspective on stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
So maybe and.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
It could be perspective either way of forgiveness or not forgetness,
depending been on what the situation is. But me personally,
I would take this is just what I do all
the time and just take all the factors. Like some
people just zone in on that one thing, you know,
people on social media anyway, that's what they do. So
people that were saying that, I'm sure they were just

(25:30):
off the cuff, like I couldn't forget my mom if
she did that just saying whatever online. But there's a
lot of nuance there, and you don't know what's going
on the way she said it, Like you said she
was young. Maybe she thought she was protecting him, maybe whatever.
I think there would if my mom told me that,

(25:51):
I would need to have a conversation with her to
figure out more, like you know, was her thinking. But
I think I could. I could feel get my mom
with me.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
It was like when I heard that, I got it
immediately because I think it's very similar to what I've
gone through, what I've experienced, but different in the way
that well, I don't know. Maybe Tyler the creator has
had I hear him talk about someone named Clancy a lot,
so maybe he has had other But he also talks

(26:26):
about his mom, so he holds her in such high
regard that he loved him so much.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And that could be affected his decision to forgive her,
you know what I mean, Like like maybe he's seeing
that there's no malice. It wasn't spitefulness or malice maybe
or maybe it was. You just don't know, but he
can see that she's put in the effort. Now my

(26:52):
thing is, could he or could somebody be that forgiving?
If say it was on the other foot, say it
was a guy, I mean he is guy, But say
he's that nigga in that bitch. So, but where was
I going? Y'all know, I'll be all over the place. No, say,

(27:13):
say is a guy that went through it himself, that
might give a little different perspective, Like it as a
kid and the mom's not letting them see her and
going through it, he might have a different perspective to that.
And then finding out that his mom did the same thing,
he might be more angry towards his mom because he

(27:35):
understands how it feels to be on the other side
of that. Now, me, personally, I'm always on the side
of there ain't nothing that you can do to keep
me from my kids personally. Just on that note, I'm
not you know, I don't want to go out on
too big of a tangent. But even though I hate
the court system, I don't want to go through the

(27:56):
court system. There's ways that you can go. And I mean,
if you really really really want to go that route,
you can go that route. Now I understand the convenience.
It's not convenient. It's not great. It's not a not
a good thing when people do that. But I'm from
like I said, I'm from the cloth of You can't

(28:19):
keep me from my kids.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I always wondered that too, like right, like, yeah, they
may be trying to, but like you have.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, there's ways to get around that. Now it's not convenient,
Like it's not. But I don't think the mom's there
to make your life convenient. Now she may be making
it more unconvenient. And I don't think she's there to
do that either. But I know a lot of guys
that just give up. I feel they give up too easy. Yeah,

(28:51):
you don't want to deal with that, ship, I understand.
I've been through it. I don't want to deal with it.
I didn't want to deal with it either, But also
no go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Also, some situations could be like where you got a
dude that got a wife and he got kids, and
he messed with somebody and then they have a kid,
and if that woman is keeping, then he might not
he might not press it too much.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah that too.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean, now that ain't right either, but yeah, but
that's what I'm saying. Like he might feel like that's
a lot of times though with that, I'm trying to
gather my thoughts. He's probably feeling like that's more convenient
for him, depending on if his wife knows or whatever,

(29:40):
Like if she don't know, he might be feeling like, oh,
I ain't pressing the situation because she ain't gonna tell nobody.
So I'm just having it so that that's that adds
a whole bunch of other nuances to the situation.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, I mean that's a difficult thing.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
That's the difficult And I think it's an individual like
it's an individual thing. What every time you start laughing,
I'll be like, oh, ship.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I just thought of something funny. But I won't say
I don't want too. You don't want to say it
on the pod. We can blank out their names or oh.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, I won't say no names.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
But if I just say a statement, it will know
it would it would uh indicate other people in the
situation that you know what I mean, So so they
would now or just you know, if people know other people,
then they can assume things and stuff like that. So true, true,
But I feel that being discree, being discree, you know what,

(30:43):
I mean, but it's like it's like.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It's like, you know, people like just say, what if.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
One day someone realizes that there side baby, you know,
But I.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Mean there's a lot of people out there that realize
their baby. I mean, I don't think that should should
uh make parenting any less though, right. I mean, if
you made the side baby, that's on you. You're gonna
have to figure that shit out, Like if you're gonna

(31:21):
be a parent, and you're gonna have to figure how
you're gonna figure that shit out. And I know I've
seen situations where the woman's like, nah, you ain't bringing
this side baby here and were staying together, but you gotta.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
That's all part of it. Either you.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Gotta break up or you gotta be like listen, if
you staying with me, this is my baby to bring it.
I did wrong, but we're gonna have to see the
baby because I'm gonna see the baby.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
So and that's all. Stop making side babies like that.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I would say, if you're a side baby and you're
out there listening, your life is very worthy. Kid ain't
have nothing to do with none of that. Kid ain't
have nothing to do with none of that. It don't matter.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know, it don't matter you side baby, the front
baby back baby, But yeah, it don't matter. You didn't
got ship to do with that. But yeah, there's some
other good themes on there too, because I think his
mom gave good advice, Like some of it could seem harsh,

(32:37):
but I think it's real, and I think she copied out.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Of it a lot too, Like even.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
When she was like, don't tell no bitch you love
her if you don't mean you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Because that's real, that's real ship. And then he follows
it with I keep following it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, and that's that's real, Like like I'm telling I
don't really mean it, but even that is maybe he
does me because he's just not made for monogamy and
that's that's basically what he's saying. Yeah, you can't, and
a lot of people can. I think a lot of
people can because.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's what you know.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
And listening to that, never it's a loon. That's a
long as time.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I feel like I've had them feelings, and I feel
like in listening to that, some part of me wants
to deny, like nah, like no, like what he's saying,
but just like yeah, I think everybody's been. I mean
the only part where I'm like, well, when he's like
and I don't know if I'm net for yet, well,
where he's like, yeah, I want you to explore too.

(33:43):
It's not it's not fair for you to just be stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I mean, it's not if you're going there, if you're
gonna be open, like, you gotta be open.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
It ain't just the man.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
You can't go there and just be one sided. Like
if you're going to go there, that's that's everything. That's
the point of it, because it's all parties are privt Hey,
I guess I ain't that O. No, that ain't open.
That's cheating, like if you ain't open, and that's cheating.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
So but it's just like, do you understand what I'm saying, Like, okay, okay,
if someone cheats, right, that don't mean that they want
their personally the partner to go and get some too.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
No, that don't mean that. But like you understand that hesitation.
Can you be yeah, can you.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Be uh, I guess surprised if they do it? No,
that's but you can be hurt. I mean, yeah, you
can be heard with anything. I mean that's part partially
probably why they're.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Doing if they're hurt, and then like you're out there
doing whatever and they hurt.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And then and then in relationships, I'll be thinking, like,
are things happening because I did this? And this? Sometimes
as in karma, as in as in God gave you this.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Sometimes it ain't even karma.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Sometimes it's uh or it may be a form of
karma I got, don't you know, I don't know. I
don't know how karma comes. But sometimes it can be
little stuff. You might be doing little things differently, might
be doing, you know, to the point where they can
kind of tell and all that stuff, all that stuff

(35:35):
plays in the into it and then they are feeling
uneasy and then they doing whatever they do like like
but a lot of times it could be coming from
what you was doing, you know. And I mean that's
a former karma. What goes around comes around, Like I would.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Think it like if I'm giving if a person is
giving attention to somebody else, then that's the tension that
they're not gett went to their partner, you know. Yeah,
and that could have effects.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, I mean, all that is a domino. All of
it is a domino.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
If you know, if you're not defining exactly what what
your relationship is or even if you know and if
you are and you're not a biden by those relationship
brules that you defined.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Mhm.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
But I feel I feel a lot of that song though,
and like I think a lot of people do. I
think overall with the songs were even with getting sticky,
the way the production, the way everything.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Is arranged, arrangement, like to know that he wrote, produce
and arranged the whole thing like that, I love the arrangements.
I think I like that better than well, it all
goes hand in hand with the production. But he he
just knows how to put different and shit together because

(37:03):
like beat changes and different stuff like that, and weird
type of sounds that he uses. Sometimes it sounds like
it won't work, but he knows, and I think that's
I think that's where being able to really play music
comes in handy, because you know, if you can really

(37:24):
play an instrument, not taking away from any producer that
can't or only a little bit, but if you can
really play an instrument, you understand stuff. You understand how
the music goes together, I think better than somebody who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
In an interview him talk about different musical influences maybe
like jazz, like different kinds of music that he's into,
and I can kind of hear it in this album. Yeah,
Like there's like five songs on here that have like
a just a smooth, like chill like vibe, like almost
maybe jazzy. Like I'm talking about what's darl and I

(38:02):
there is Tomorrow, Tomorrow is fire?

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
What's the one take your mask off? I hope you
find your way home? And like him, they all have
this a similar kind of smooth vibe to him, with
different like different sounds.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know, Noah, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, I've been I've been finding myself going you know,
I guess because you know, it depends on what mood
I'm in. I'm starting to go to different songs, but
like I'm going to them kind of songs a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know I do that too,
because the better on the mood I'm in. I know,
every song ain't that mood, even though the whole album's dope,
and how you can listen from front of the back
without skipping, I do do that. I'll go to like
if I'm in the mood or I'm in I'm driving
maybe at night those songs are better for me at night.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Was down because it's still hot in November.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
But but yeah, I definitely definitely understand.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
To the to the point where like even if I'm
not so uh, even it becomes to word, it's not
about the subject matter. Sometimes it's just about hearing that
vibe like to me like here you know, but yeah,

(39:28):
like and then like what's the name? Grew on me? Uh,
I thought I was dead.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Because I wasn't. I was dead.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I wasn't sure. I like that it grew on me.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
It sounds like a lunch room song to me, like
just beating on the table doing whatever, Like at the
lunch table, everybody's spitting.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's it's a fun song.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
This is fun.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That's a fun song. And then I like how like
like I didn't know the features all the features, but
then when I bought the album on iTunes, then it
showed me the features and I'm like, Okay, that's School
school Board Q on that and some songs Like I said,
when he's sounding different that I thought there was different
people on there, but no, it's just him and like

(40:20):
a singer.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I know, School school Board Q does that too. Sometimes
with his voice, he'll sound different depending on what he's on.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
But see, I think I think this is his best album.
This is totally to the creator's best album.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah. I think this is my favorite album that he's
put out.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Mine too.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
And there's other stuff like you go back to call
Me if you lost, Call Me if you Lost, especially.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
The song I mean from his old album Yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Last for that Drama. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, he's just spitting
and it was stuff I really liked.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, yeah, it was it was stuff on there I like,
but I didn't like the Yeah I didn't listen to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So but this is the one where I like everything.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, Like, this is probably his first project where I
liked everything to every single thing.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And it was surprising to me because, like I said,
I listened to his music before, but usually I don't
listen like I might like four or five songs or
depending or I might like like four songs in the
singing vein and then a couple of the rap songs
where he's rapping more I might like. But yeah, this

(41:42):
is the first project that I liked the whole project.
And I've seen a lot of people express that like
that sent them like this is the first project where
they from start to finish.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I think as a producer, he's grown. I think like definitely,
he's definitely grown. Yeah, as a producer, even from even
he's passed four that people are saying the classics. I
think this one production wise even, yeah, this is better
than me. Yeah, vocal, production wise, everything, everything.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah. Well that's all. That's our review of the album.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
If you can't tell it's a great album, definitely listen
to it if you have not listened to it. But yeah,
it's good to have some good music because I haven't
listened to anything really.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
And I'm really enjoying it, Like I haven't. I don't
feel like I'm getting tired of it.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Today I turned on NAS untitled Those That No No.
I was listening to that because that's how I felt today,
and that was that's a powerful album. I don't think
NAS gets enough credit for that album.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah I was.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I was listening to that and it was just like damn,
like this shit is all still relevant. But I say
that to say I digress that I've been listening to
Tyler Greater and this is the first time I turn
it off since it came out, and because I don't,
I don't want to wear it out because I have

(43:18):
a tendency to do that when I'm find stuff I like,
So try not to listen to it today on the
way home.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I didn't listen to it on the way there, though.
Oh yeah, I do that too.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I used to, because I wear album outs, especially these
days it's few and far in between good music and listen,
I play that shit twenty four hours a day for
weeks months.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
You know what's good about this? Like this is this
album is really good to me, right, but it's not.
So there's stuff that's so stimulating and so wonderful to
me that I listen to it over and over and
over again, like back to back, like yeah, you know,
and and eventually I won't be listening to it. So

(44:08):
maybe like that's a good thing in a way to
where this is it's good. See, there's a appreciated but
it's not to that point.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
See there's a couple on there that are yeah, and
I'll I'll go back mask off.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
The second song. What's the second song? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, that I just like the way that ship vibes
driving like that.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
That's that's like some speed racer music.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I realized because I mean in my work truck. Yeah,
in my car it sounds way better.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
It's different.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, the truck don't have good speakers in there,
do it. Every truck I've ever been in, they sound
like trash. I mean, I'm sure you can get them,
and I'm sure like dudes that own their own truck
and got to suit got a good sound system in
there or whatever. But every truck I've I've been in
or renting and everything that's just sounded trash. I mean

(45:07):
what it was, let's not better. Maybe I gotta adjust
the settings. Okay, you know, I just was wondering because
usually they had a live like they just be like, yo,
don't enjoy yourself.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
This for utility. It's just no.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Speakers, cheap speakers and all that just don't sound great.
Now they that seemed like where you need it, like
they should have put a big as sound system in there.
Are you driving that ship all day? Listen, I need
extra need TVs all that like everything.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
And then the last thing I said about it is
in the progression of his career, like he's gotten better
and better and better. Yeah, yeah, this next album may
be even better than this.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah maybe, Uh, who knows when that's gonna come.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I'm alone for the ride. It even makes me want
to go back and listen to everything, but it's I
haven't yet, but I feel and I already know, just
being hont of some stuff, I'm not going to enjoy
it because they were people he was talking about, trying cat.
There was some kind of like something going on with

(46:22):
him and Taylor Swift fans, and so I listen to
some of it and it's like, all right, I don't
want to I don't want to put him down now
that we've been bigging him up, but it's just it
just wasn't my it just wasn't my bag. Like you know,
it's kind of like that. I don't know if it's
shock rap or it's just saying crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, because that's
what they were doing when they first came out, So
you know, I'm he still does that, but you know
any of that is on this sound well no, I
mean he'll say stuff that maybe off the wall on

(47:07):
on the album, a couple of things, but uh, I
don't think it's I mean it's like normal off the
wall stuff though, Like.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
What's coming to mind is when.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Uh, well, no that ain't did he say like I
don't give a funk about your pronouns or something, But
it's like little stuff like that, like he'll he'll still
say little stuff. Yeah, yeah, because that's when he was like,
I'm that nigga in that bitch.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh yeah, So I wonder if he got that from
a durand Bernard Duran Bernor is the first person I
heard say that. And I was like, I was feeling
when he said that. He was on Tiny Desk maybe
and he was singing. He could sing really good. I
think he's some with he might have been his background

(48:03):
singer for Kabaidu. But he I heard him say that
on Tiny Desk. And you know, now Talma is saying it.
But you know, I ain't saying he bid him or nothing.
I'm not saying pick up creator, but yeah, I noticed,
Like I wonder if he noticed this, right he Tyler

(48:27):
the Creator did Tiny Desk right when he did Tiny Disk,
he had he had singers, he had been there. It
sounded wonderful. Then I went and tried to listen to
them songs on the album. They sounded better when he
did him on Tiny Desk or from his old album
from Uh yeah, I think it might have been. It

(48:47):
might have been a couple of different albums the songs
came from. But yeah, it was older albums. I think maybe, uh,
I don't know that one was bored. He might have
had a whole song about being bored. But it was fine.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
But but yeah, like and it sounds like he went
more of the Tiny deathway on this album.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
He got more more music that he got the same music.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that and that may be what
it is. Maybe he reached the next level of production
as a producer, I should say.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
And it ain't all about making beats.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, sometimes it's putting that ship together, like knowing how
it sounds.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
People Like I saw some people hating, like because the singers,
the singers were really good on that Tiny Dusk and
they were like, oh, oh well, you know, it's like
they basically made it seem like they were the actual hill.
Yeah okay, But I'm like, I'm like, don't you know

(49:54):
he's behind all of this?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
You know, yeah, like I told him what to sing
and told him how to sing it and they deserve credit,
but at the same time people are giving him like
crazy credit and not giving him any And.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
He did his parts too, like rapping and and like
like I said before, like uh, he kind of downplays
the singer well. He says he can't sing, yeah, yeah,
but but he does sounds good.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I mean yeah, it's like that that thing, like it's
that thing you make it sound good. I can't really
sing and he doesn't really sing like an R and
B singer, but it sounds good.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
He like he know how to he know how to
do it. He know how to to do melodies, he
know how to do runs kind of yeah, when you
listen to the album, Yeah, he just say he not
Whitney Houston.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
You know he not you know siskem Man.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I don't think he's any Yeah, I don't think he's
any singer like an R and B singer.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
But.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
It's saying what he does sounds good, you know, it
doesn't sound bad, and he makes it sound good even
because some of that singing is bad singing like some
of it, but it's not it doesn't sound bad because
of what he's doing the whole song, the production on

(51:25):
it all that stuff. I just he just knows how
to arrange it, Like he's not staying on note on
some of that singing, like it's not it's not the
right note. Like god, you know, if somebody was being critical,
they could tell that it's not the right note that
he's singing.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
For that song.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
But the way he arranges it and puts it into
the song and it sounds good, you know, it's the
same thing. You know, I think Future is less of
a singer, but it's the same thing with the Future,
Like the way those type of singers do or I
can't say singing singers, but the way they sing, just

(52:06):
the melody and the.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I don't know, I just kind of singing. And it's
kind of even when you talk about Shooting.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I remember, I remember like it's singing because it's singing.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I remember the first song I ever heard from Shooter.
I think it's called Turnout the Lights. And I think what,
and it was like, Wow, this is really people are
really liking this. This is not, like you said, an
R and B singer. This is not a professional singer.
But I think he's singing with his heart, like you
know what I mean. And I think that translates.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Well, I think the vibe, that's what it is, and
that's what that's what it is these days, like it's
more of a vibe. Like you got songs and people
ain't saying shit, which is some of the complaints of
people that like lyricism. You know, you got songs where
people aren't saying nothing, damn near you know, four line

(52:59):
songs they're just repeating. But it's just a vibe. And
that's what I say. The kids, I say, how old
as fuck when I do that, But it's real Like
the younger people, that's what they be on. There'll be
more vibes than anything. Like I'm all about the vibes.
Like there's a kids always saying all about the vibe,
and that's true. Like a lot of music, they're all

(53:20):
about the vibes. I like the vibes too, but I
also want lyrics and other stuff. But you can make
a song from vibes and not say a lot and
not be the best singer in the world. But the
way you arranged it to beat, the production on it,
all that stuff matters.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
And they can be fire. Remember that song Kanye West
had on uh, It's it always a heart break?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Where he's I mean, I don't realize.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
But it's like he say the same thing over and over.
He's saying a certain part, but he says that over
and over through the whole song.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, and I forget what it is. Seems like to me,
I don't even remember that. I remember that album, but.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
But it's like not see that's not just like a
show words, it's like a whole like part. But he
says that over and over again throughout the song, and
I was like wow. And they even used that. I
think in Gray's Anatomy in one episode.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
It's far.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
But I mean I say that to say I think
some of the vibe stuff I've enjoyed as well.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I have too.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I have too, Like I just don't want the whole
album of vibes. That's the thing like younger artists, because
of how music is made, like they'll make it's basically
a bunch of singles put together on the album. Oh yeah,
you know, because the way they put out mu now,

(55:01):
just putting it out, putting it out, whenever, putting it out,
putting it out. And then when you have a bunch
of songs, now that's the album, and they put out
the album, and it's just a bunch of singles really,
so it's.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
All vibes like the old album's vibes.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
That's another good thing about this Toddler, the creative album.
It's cohesive, it's all. It has a theme.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah, it's an album.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
It's I mean, I don't think it's a full concept
album like I said I said to you last week,
but it's it's kind of a concept album with his
mom giving advice and then most of the songs being
him not taking the device and the consequences like that's
you know, that's that's he.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Got one song, mom mos grand babies, and this whole
song is like nah. Then later on when you know
when you talk about getting the girl pregnant, now that
before that, before that, Yeah, Okay, it sounds like I
don't know if he sounds like.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
He left it up to her to with whatever she
want to do. And I don't think she said what
she wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Well.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
She actually, I think says she wanted to have it.
Now is he I wanted to ask, like you, is
he married?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
No? I don't think he's well because.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
In that video he got a ring on his ring
finger and I was like yo, I wonder if he's
married or ain't tell nobody, like it probably got some kids,
just something ain't tell nobody, because that's how Ja Cole
was for a while, Like they didn't nobody know that
they was marrying him and his woman who knows.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I'm taking him at his word on these songs, but
he also like.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
The way he's saying yeah and some of the stuff
he's saying, like about meeting women. Even though he don't
want to be monogamous, he's still deeply in love with
these women, or.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
At least a few of them.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
He's been deeply in love with them to the point
where he's been hurt for certain things.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
So who knows, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
But I was just wondering because I didn't know if
you knew anymore, because I because I see him not
telling anybody because he does.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
He does like his privacy.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
And only the only thing I don't like about this
album is when it was released, because I wonder if
it's gonna get snubbed at the Grammys this year.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
It's just so long.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
No, I don't think it should either, but that don't
always matter, don't always matter, so depending on what comes out,
that's the other thing, like depending on what comes out
between not that he should definitely be nominated right now,
you know, I don't care what comes out, but depending
on what comes out, like I think he would win

(57:54):
if he was in there, and now next year, you
don't know, you know, depend on what and you can't
make music because like I'm cool with not making music
for that reason. So that that's I wonder if he
tried to get it out before, because I think, no,
it was August. August thirtieth is to cut off for
the Grammys, but anything that comes out or or the

(58:15):
thirty first, because August got thirty one days, I always get, Yeah,
the thirty verses to cut off.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I think, so.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Anything after August thirty first can be considered in the Grammys.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
So yeah, this came out.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
This is a couple of months, so he probably he
probably wasn't even giving them a fuck. Yeah, he probably
figured it's gonna be nice, it's gonna be good, and
it'll be good for next year.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I hope all the voters are conscious, conscious of conscience,
conscious about you know, just remembering it, because that that
can be a thing like people may forget.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing that's That's why I said that,
because it's a whole nother year.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
It's a whole year.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
For real, he missed the Grammys by two months, so
it's a whole year. He got a whole year of
music that may come out and could erase because to
be fair, we consume music much differently than the average

(59:20):
person these days, and I think that's an age thing.
But I also think it's just where the world is,
because I'm sure there's older people that consume music just
like young people.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
These days, we just consume it a little differently.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
We still kind of consume it how we used to,
even though we consume it on platforms, that's not how
we used to. But yeah, that that's that's the only
thing when I say that, it's definitely deserving for Grammys.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Grammy nod, nod, And.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yeah, I was thinking a couple of things. One of
the things is I think he listening to this. I
think he's he's like becoming like a top producer in
hip hop. I think he's becoming like you know, like
I'm thinking, like Pharrell is proud like looking because he
kind of like he's very I think he even I

(01:00:26):
don't know, I think he even said, he don't idolize him,
but he like or am I'm mixing this up with something?
But anyway, you can tell he's very he likes Forreal's music.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, and you know so yeah, he looks at him,
I mean, he looks up to him. You can hear it,
you can see.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
But you can see his influences clearly, and he's like
unapologetic about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I mean, because everybody has influences and everybody you don't
just come out in the womb just out you know,
maybe maybe Stevie Wonder, I don't know, but you know
you don't. You don't and I'm sure Stevie Wonder didn't either,
Like I'm sure he has influences as well. But yeah,
everybody has influences. You get it from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
But like, yeah, man, the stuff he's doing now, like
you can't even like, uh, what's that song because you
know how on drop it like it's hot Forrell does
the like thing?

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And when he was making the tracks, yeah, and he
was like he was doing something he was doing yeah, yeah,
he was clicking, but he was doing something else too.
He's making some type of noise. I'm like, what is
happening bro that it is dope.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
But Tyler does that that that one sound on this album.
I forget what song it is. I forget what song
it is, but I really like the production because it's like,
you know how you can make a beat and it's
the same repetitive thing over and over again. This album.
The songs are not like that, the part that stuff

(01:02:05):
changes up and it's like it's perfect. It's like what
comes with it either as to it or is a
welcome change, you know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, yeah, there's no I know people that do that
and sometimes I be like, damn, why you change that?
You know this, I don't feel that way about like
the stuff that changes. I'd be like, okay, exactly. Yeah,
so that I think that's an art in itself too.
With that man, I ain't think he was gonna talk
about talent for an hour, but I mean, I think

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the album deserves it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
It's that good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I hope it's remembered, you know, twenty twenty six Grammys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
And I want to encourage people that don't usually listen
to him to check it out because I know, like
I said, I know everybody. Sometimes you get pigeonholed when
you get in a do some artists early on and
you don't ever check for him again, and you're thinking
they still whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
So I would urgeing bid that maybe pigeon hold him
and saying he was immature.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Or not, you know, not making the type of music
you want to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Check this album out, yeah, because I think, uh, yeah,
it's some at some parts, like I was wasn't paying
attention fully because you know, I probably couldn't get into
it for those reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
But uh but yeah, like as of late the past
few albums, Yeah, he's put out stuff that got my attention. Yeah,
and even if it even yeah, I mean, I don't
know if he would like me using this word, but
the potential. You saw the potential in certain he saw
the potential from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, Yeah, from the beginning, I saw the potential. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
And then now it's like it's fully grown. Yeah, yeah
in all aspects.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
True that. So let's switch subjects a little bit. I
got a good setuay what what's that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
What do you think about the Rap album category for
the Grammys, Because the way I feel about it is
me personally, I don't know which which album to pick
because I didn't really listen to the Who's in there

(01:04:33):
metro booming in future, we don't trust you, eminem might delete.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Later, cold yeah, and who else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
That's tough. Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough that's a
tough lineup. I haven't heard all of all of all
of the albums that are nominated, so it's hard for
me to say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
But oh, Common and Pete Rock the auditorium value of one.
But it's Common and Pete Rocks the auditorium value one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Oh okay, Oh, I haven't even heard that album, so
I haven't heard a single song off that album. It's
weird because Common growing Up is like one of my
favorite rappers, and I don't really be checking for much
of his shit that he brings out, not for no reason.

(01:05:48):
Like it's not like I think he's whack or anything.
Actually quite the contrary. I think he's rapping really well now,
you know, in his older age, you know, not saying old,
but I think he's actually like stepped it up a
little with some of the stuff I've heard. But I

(01:06:09):
just haven't been checking for him. I don't know why.
It was a couple of things I had had as
old head out album like two years ago and I
listened to like three songs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I'm just gonna get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I don't know why, but I might check that album
out since it's nominated for Grammy, because it's got to
be halfway decent less it's all politics, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I don't know. No I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
I heard some people say it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Well yeah, I mean it's nominated for Grammy, so it's
gotta be somewhat great producer, great rapper. It's gotta be
some stuff on there that I probably like, So I'm
gonna check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I hope Lucky Dave Glenn's that's your best traditional R
and B performance He's it'd be like I do haven't
heard all the songs and all the music in every category,
but it's like I'm rooting for that song because I
really enjoyed that song. Well, Lucky Day, Yeah, that's you,
and I think Bruno Mars. I think Bruno Mars might

(01:07:15):
have wrote it. Okay, I enjoyed. I was singing along
to that song. Like when it comes to the best
Album Album of the Year category, it's like I can't
fully say anything because I haven't heard all of the album. Yeah,
and it's like some of the albums I probably not

(01:07:38):
going to because it's not what I like to listen to,
you know, Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I don't know, Yeah I can't. I think this is
when like your age starts to show. Like I know,
I know everybody, every older person says this, like where
you're growing up, how you kind of get disconnected from

(01:08:08):
stuff as you get older. And it doesn't have it's
not an absolute, but I think it happens a lot
just because of life. We only have so much time
to consume stuff, So you don't consume the amount of
music that you consume when you was younger. It just

(01:08:28):
takes up a lot of time to do so, like
you said, you're into podcast a lot now, so you're
not listening to a lot of albums while you're driving.
You might listen to something that come out as you're
interested in, but back in the day, you probably listen
to almost everything that came out or at least checked
it out. Maybe, But I don't know. That doesn't have

(01:08:49):
to be absolute either, but I know for me it is.
I used to listen to everything or try it out
and actually heard everything that was coming out. Now I
don't even I'm not paying attention as much. So half
the albums I don't even know that. I didn't even

(01:09:10):
know when People Rocking in Common came out. I even
know that came out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
I did, And the thing is it had to be
over the last year, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I didn't even know that album existed until I saw
it nominated.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Maybe you're right in my consumption, it's probably not as
much as it used to be, but I think I
still consuming the same way. I listened to what I
want to listen to, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Or if
I'm not feeling something, then I'm probably not going to
finish it. But just saying that best rap album, I've
listened to one, two, three, and three. It's five five albums.

(01:09:51):
I've listened to three full albums, and I tried to
listen to the other two.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
But okay, at least we don't trust you. I tried.
I tried to listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
That's not me my music, that's what it is. So
I listened to like a couple of songs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
And I listened to that, the first single on Coming
and Pete Rock album, and I just I wasn't. I wasn't.
How do I say respectfully, I wasn't into it. I
wasn't into it. Not that it's bad or anything. People

(01:10:32):
some people say it's good. I just wasn't into it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give that a shot.
Listen to I know, I'm not gonna listen to Metro
Boomer's album. I just won't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Yeah, that's tough, because if I could speak honestly, all right,
I'm gonna put it like this. There's a couple of albums.
There's a couple of albums that I don't think should
win because that's it's too soon for this one. It's

(01:11:09):
too soon for this artist.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Why you say that if the album is good enough
to nominate Matter Yesterday, I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Don't think it should. I don't think it should win.
I don't think it deserves it. Okay, I think it's
you know, uh, And that's fine. Yeah, I can give
it that. I don't necessarily think this one should either.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I don't know, and I can't say because I would
say if you told me I wouldn't nominate, I mean
I wouldn't that would win. Yeah, but I haven't heard.
I haven't heard any or most of the other albums
this one. I probably heard the song a couple of
songs off those Shame and that's probably it. I haven't

(01:12:04):
heard any and in off of Metro Booming.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
It's like I can't completely say because, like I said,
I ain't fully listening to this one or this one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Yeah, I ain't fully listening to none of this one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
There's things that I don't like on it, you know
what I mean as far as things said and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Okay, you know what's that we talked about it? What
album was that I can't see this one I need?
I mean, I got my glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Oh okay, okay, oh, I forgot that was on it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yo. Joe Budden wouldn't give a fuck. I'm like this one.
And I don't want to say names this one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I mean, I don't care either because it's our opinion.
I don't care. We're not being disparaging. But yeah, uh,
slim Shady album. I don't know if I would be.
I don't know. I don't know where to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Put that because I would say J Cole, like I said,
I didn't listen to the other albums. The other albums
might be better.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
There's stuff on Slim Shady's album that I don't listen
to and don't like. Jay Cole right there, all the albums,
I've heard everything from all the albums I've heard. That's
why I say j Cole because I like that whole
album and I like more songs than any of the

(01:13:31):
other albums. But I haven't heard all of the other albums,
so I wouldn't be the voter. I wouldn't be the decider. Well,
if I mean that they do any better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
If I had ever had a chance to be a voter,
i'd listen to everything.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yeah, you got you should.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
I mean, I know they probably don't because a lot
of that is politics.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
It's probably That's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
There's probably people that may deserve to be on air,
and that's not you know, that's not for us.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
It's interesting that you said that, because when it comes
to album of the Year, I have a feeling about
if a certain person wins, I feel like it's it
could be political.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
But at the same.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Time, is it's the business they want?

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
The business is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
The eyes, the eyes, the eyes, the eyes is always
the business. But there's always people. So if somebody's going
to be better for the visibility of the Academy. They
always you know, they always do that. They always do that,
They've done that forever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Now it's kind of like, in a way, if this
person wins, I wouldn't be mad at it because they
may have deserved to win before when they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
But I don't. I don't. I wouldn't be mad at
any of them winning.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
But that's me being out of touch too, because I
don't know what else came out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And talking about the Grammys. What's what you're talking about,
rep album or yeah? Yeah, right, I was talking about
Album of the Year, Album.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Of the Year. Yeah. Here, album a year is always
a Now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Some people are hating on this Andre three thousand New
Blue Sun being nominated.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
I didn't know he was nominated. Some people think he
shouldn't be album of the Year. I think that's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Fire that he's nominated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Man, I think it's cool and that might be why
they nominated it. But I don't know, because it's the Grammys.
It's the Grammys. I mean, it doesn't have to be
R and B. It doesn't have to it's album this,
album of the Year. But look at what album genre,

(01:15:53):
It doesn't matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Kind of makes sense like look at what he did,
Like look at all the attention he got, and look
at with him playing the flute, playing wood wind instruments
and people was on it and vibing with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Yeah, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at
that because it is it's every genre. People kind of
get again, they get in this hole because a lot
of times it is R and B or hip hop
because that's some of the biggest genres in the world,
or pop pop a lot of times because that's the
biggest genre in the world. But they don't understand it

(01:16:30):
doesn't have to be that. It doesn't have to be
any of that. It's an album. It has to be
an album, a musical album. Well, it don't even have
to be musical. It just has to be an album.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Because Martin Luther King won a Grammy, so yeah, for
one of his speech albums.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I don't know, I forget what category. The Grammy's in
the museum in his museum. While he was alive, he
put out a speech album. Oh, I think it was
Why he was Alive.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Yeah, they had an album.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I'm not sure when he won the Grammy, if he
wanted Why he was alive or not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
That's something that I would like to know the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
First album of the year. It's like one, two, three, four, five, six,
six albums. I ain't heard out of the eight, so
I can't call it that, but I think this person.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Nineteen seventy one, he won the Grammy Best Spoken Word.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Album, Why I Pose the War on Vietnam. Yeah, nineteen
seventy one, Why I Pose the War on Vietnam. He's
been nominated three times, three different times for Grammys and
won in nineteen seve one. He was nominated for in
nineteen sixty nine for That's Crazy I Have a Dream

(01:18:07):
and that didn't win. That's one of his most famous
and that that just goes to show it doesn't it
doesn't just stop with music with that type of stuff,
you know, because that's like one of his most famous things.
But he didn't win a Grammy for it. Nineteen sixty four,
the sixth Grammy Awards. That that's the sixth one he

(01:18:30):
was nominated Best Documentary Spoken Word or Drama Recording other
than the Comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Now they'll be having some wild categories.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
So I feel like I feel like I feel like
he wasn't alive for that. What's am I right? When
he won one, oh yeah, but no, he wasn't alive.

(01:19:02):
Twenty one yeah, I was looking for seventy one. He
was alive for the other nominations.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
But he wasn't alive and that could have had something
to do with it, which is fucked up. So what happens.
That's what Tyler said, you won't get your flowers until
you died. Like that's real, man, And it's sad that
that happens. But because like I said, he was nominated
for I Have A Dreamed and he was alive then

(01:19:29):
and but then he won after he passed away, I
don't need it now. Thanks, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
And back to the Tylor album. In that song where
he's getting at himself, a lot of the critiques is
like I feel the opposite, like but maybe overall in general,
you know, they said he said, they're not talking about
your stage presence or your stage performance. But that's something
I noticed, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
No, but that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
That's why I think he's saying that, because I think
he improved that like crazy, and I think they you know,
he he might be talking to a younger version of
himself because I think he always put pride he always
put Bride in that, but I don't think people really

(01:20:21):
gave him the credit that they do now that now
that he's he's like concert proving, you know, stadium proving.
So that's one of the biggest things that he's known
for now. But I don't know if that was always
the case. That's what I think he's saying. The Grammys, Man,
the Grammys is always peculiar.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
But I'm really out of touch this year. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
I don't know nothing, don't know nobody, don't know nobody album.
I don't know what anybody's been putting out. I'm sure
everybody performs.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I'll be like, who that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Your girl Ray is nominated for Best News.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Tell me that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I peeped it out and she was on She was
on I g yeah, posted on her. That's that's dope
to see.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
I think she's been nominated or won before because I
remember the speech when she first I don't know what
that was though when she won. Maybe she hasn't won
a Grammy. Maybe that was the British Awards. I think
it might have been when she had her dad up there.
It was talking about him being a songwriter and all
the songs that got stolen from him. I thought that

(01:21:28):
was dope.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
But what'd you think.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
I'm gonna seguey weird because what do you think about
Mike Tyson?

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
We're recording this on Friday, So there's the boxing match
Tyson and Jake Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
It's interesting, it's entertaining. You know, it's kept my attention.
I forgot. I wasn't in tune til you said something.
She said you wanted to watch the fight after the
pod and then and then I remember November, Yeah, they
changed it day and then uh yeah, So I looked

(01:22:02):
it up and I'm like, oh, you're talking about Tyson
versus uh Paul, Jake Paul, and uh yeah, it's it's interesting,
it's interesting. It's uh I think it's it's I'm interested.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Yah, yeah, Uh. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Man could go either way because Jake Paul, I know,
there's a lot of people that don't like him, and
might be rightfully so some of the ship he's done
or does, but in the last few years he's really
turned to boxing, and I don't think he's terrible at it.

(01:22:46):
There's jokes, there's a lot of you know, there's a
lot of people that say he's trying to make a mockery.
But I don't see that regardless, Like I don't follow him,
so I don't know what egregious thing he's done or
said in the last So don't kill me if he's
if we're canceling this week again, But I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I've seen him box and I've seen him seemingly not
want to make a mockery out of it, even though
people people will say that because he's a YouTube star,
so they'll just say he's just trying to do this
for money. Now now this particular fight, he may be

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doing this for money because he's getting money. But it's hard.
It's hard for me to I don't even want back
because it could go either way. We got youth and
then we got the animal, like we got you got tyson,
who is unhinged when he's in this mode.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, but he's not. He's not what he used to be.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
I don't know he's fifty eight years old or whatever
old he is. I don't know he is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
But like, ideally, I know what I would like to
see he he's he's still a beast.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
But again, he's, like you said, not what he used
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
And by the way, if Mike Tyson was here, I
wouldn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
No, Like I said, Tyson is fucking nuts, not nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
But when he gets in that mold and he knows it,
that's one of the reasons he said he don't like
being in that mold because he knows he's unhinged. Just
like the slap. The slap today, I think, and it
looks staged, but I don't know. I don't know if
it was because Tyson is unhinged, and maybe maybe Jake wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
It to be staged.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
He knew, he definitely knew he could egg him on
and do whatever and try to make him react.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
You know, they're saying because he's well, Mike Tyson said,
because he stepped on his foot on purpose. I thought
he was like, I got fucked up feet. My ship
hurts constantly. Yeah, Tyson always said, he said that he's
always had fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Up I thought that too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
He was like, I got bullions and he stepped on
the fucker. I was like, why did he do that?

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
And then like because I thought it was stage because
it looked like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I mean, you don't know, it could be staged, and
I don't fault anybody for thinking the stage. They know
Jake Paul, so it's definitely on brand to stage that.
But I think he's more of a capitalist where he's
like I could do something and Tyson's gonna fucking react

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because I know he's he's in the mold right now.
But it could be it could have been one hundred
percent stage. I just look at it like it. I
don't know. He he hit him kind of hard, yeah,
but that could be just Mike too. Like you could
probably go to Mic and be like, Yo, we're gonna
stage his slap, but don't really slap me that hard.
Just make it look real and they'll fucking take your

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head off just because. But it am no. I mean,
he wasn't gonna show it anyway. But I don't I
don't think he got like the fool. It didn't look
it looked it looked hard though. It looked like he
slapped him hard. But he slapped him hard like it
was a hard ass hand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
You know. It wasn't like a like one of them
slaps where it's going to be like it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Was like like like the competition is like like where
it was he just almost knocked him out with a slap,
but he ain't hit him hard enough to knock him out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
And that's that's funny. I would like, I think, I
want to say I want Tyson to win.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Yeah, me too, I think, I mean, this is already
affecting his legacy. But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
He said just posted today because Mike was saying something.
They was like, Yo, get this bitch out of here.
Fy was like, give him the fucking tr Mike because
in an interview or something, they asked him something and
he was like he just went off on another tangent.
I don't know what he said, but whatever he said

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must have been crazy, because fifty said posted was like,
what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Like protect the kids, like get the kids away from mic.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Yo, it's you know, it's so interesting. This mic is
so different than the weed smoking like you know Auraca
Toad doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
But that's what he said, and he said he knows it,
and that's why he never wanted to. He used to
always say, I don't want to go back to boxing
because I get in this mood and I get in
this molde where I'm just like fuck it, fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
I want to hurt you. I want to kill you.
And this is it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
And that's this that's the thing that could be dangerous
if you really believe this fight.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
I believe it's a real fight, but if.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
You really believe some people believe the fight is rigged
and it's going to be rigged.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Uh. Like I said, it's Jake Paul, so who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
But I don't think he wants to do that because
somebody would say something, I think, and that would be
damaging to the rest of his career.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
I think it would.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
This fight is really weird because it's a lose lose
for both both parties. I look at it like it's
a lose lose because Jake Paul loses to Mike Tyson.
It's a lose for him because he's he's so much
younger and it's so much in boxing, and I think

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it's a lose for him because they're gonna be like
this this old man. I'm not saying Tyson's old and
it should be a loss for him, But I think people,
especially younger people that follow him, will look at it
as a loss for him, So I don't think and
if he beats him, I think it'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Oh well, he's old. He's old, he was washed up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
It ain't nothing who anybody your age would beat him. Like,
that's what's gonna be even if it's true or not.
That's the that's gonna be the talking point if he wins.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
And on the other end, Tyson.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
If Tyson beats him, yeah he's older Tyson, everybody's gonna
be like wow. But still it is Mike Tyson, and
there's a lot of people that expect him to win.
So it's like, why are you doing this? And if
he loses, it's like, really, why you do this? You know,
that's just a loss, that's a that's a pro loss,

(01:29:41):
and that's a loss to And that's why they asked
him about his legacy because because it's kind of like
a blemish, even though he's had other blimishes. I always say,
this is just on his other blimashes, Like, don't nobody
it's Tyson is a weird individual because there's not a

(01:30:02):
lot of people that hold him to his blimises like
other people. And I'm not saying you should have shouldn't.
It's just always been fascinating to me because you don't
hear it a lot like you don't hear about the stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
You know, you don't hear whether you believe sexual assault
or whatever. You don't really hear. People don't really bring
it up that much. Yeah, the ear biting, like people don't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
People bring it up jokingly sometimes, but it's not like like.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
If it was somebody else, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
It would be brought up more, you know what I
mean When talking about his legacy, it would be brought
up more. But maybe that's a testament to what he did.
I mean it is it is a testament to what
he did when he was great. But I don't know
what that is. I don't know if people are scared
of him or if I mean that could be that
could be too, or if it's just how changed, Yeah,

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like his how much how changed he is? And I
know a lot of people didn't believe the sexual assault.
But there's been times when he says some stuff and
maybe he's just saying generally he could have been a
nicer person, and maybe that's why he got in the

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situations that he was in, because he wasn't a nicer person.
But sometimes it sounds like he may have done it,
or maybe he did something that he don't fully understand
that what it was. Then you know, maybe not full
in the full thing, but maybe he just did some

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shit that you know, he just didn't understand was.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Not good to do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
I don't know, because I hear him in interviews sometimes
talk about like when he was younger, like how he
was and how he don't want to be that person,
and it just makes me think about that. But I
say that to say that people don't bring it up.
And like I said, I'm not saying you should or shouldn't.
I think that's a personal thing to you, like if
if that's something that you feel or believe that happened,

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and all of that stuff, but it always is fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
It was always fascinating to me that it wasn't brought up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
More so, maybe I say all of that again to
say maybe it won't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Like maybe if he loses or wins, it don't match.
It won't want to see that. I want to see
him whin I honestly want to see him, not.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
I would see. Yeah, I want to see a fight.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
But at the same time, I gotta temper my expectations
because with him and Roy Jones, it wasn't it wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Yeah, that was a lot of people are saying it was,
and that's what I think a lot of it will be.
I don't think you're going to see the mic. He
may have glimpses of it, but I don't think you're
gonna see the ferosis.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Because at the end of the day, this is an exhibition.
They're not trying to take each other's head.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Now they trying to Mike's trying to take his head off.
Just because of the exhibitions, don't mean that it's.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Hard, because with Roy Jones it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
That well, yeah, but you don't know where That's the
other thing that people say. They're like, well, Jake Paul
ain't Roy Jones, but true, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
It looks kind of big, though, but Jake Paul is
but has not been.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
He's big, and he definitely, how do I put this,
he's definitely better than people give him credit for. You
put it that way because of for whatever reason, I'm
being objective.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
I don't really get down with him. I don't follow
him or his brother.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Really, I just see some stuff just just because it's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Not too so. I'm not saying anything out of malice
or hate or don't like him, but.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
He's objectively he's not a bad boxer. Is he on
the level of professionals that have been professionals for because
he is a professional, But is he on the level
of boxers that has been boxing for years?

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
No? I wouldn't say that. But again, he's not a
bad boxer. I see being a good boxer.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
How would he do in regular boxing?

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Yeah, he's been. He's been boxing in the regular leagues.
He is in the regular leagues.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
That what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Yeah, he's he's been, he's been boxing. I think he
has two professional fights.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
To this brother. Who fought Floyd Mayweather? No, it's Jake
Paul It was him, Yeah, and Floyd won, Right, Tommy
Fury he fought.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
He fought Floyd may Canalo, he fought uh Avarez and
Ryan Garcia. He's been eleven eleven professional boxer. Man his
records ten and one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
He lost the Floyd he lost to Fury by split decision.
Who Tommy Fury?

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
So what happened in with Heaven Floyd? What's that professional?
Was that?

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
I think that was an exhibition? Yeah, because they don't
list that here. Uh and this is an exhibition, right, yeah, yeah,
this doesn't count where his but that's what I'm saying.
I mean, they can say that he hasn't fought, you know,
and he fought. Uh hmm, what's his name? Play for

(01:36:00):
the New York Knicks, little guy? Well, I say little.
He's probably taller than me, but little for the NBA,
Nate Robinson. He thought Nave Robins. That wasn't Yeah, I
watched that. That wasn't professional. Uh but I heard that
went bad, yeah for Nate. Yeah, And that's the thing

(01:36:24):
I knew. I kind of knew because I'm like, even
though everybody wants to say what they want to say
about Jake because of whatever, maybe they don't like him.
Maybe whatever it is, whatever the reason, it might be
valid reasons, I don't know, But like I said, objectively,
he doesn't look terrible. He's not a terrible boxing He

(01:36:45):
actually does some fundamentals really well. He actually looks like
he's not in it to be to be playing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Everybody thought he was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
They thought it was just for YouTube because naturally that's
how he made his fame, and they just thought, no,
he's just some other content creator.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
But he actually got into boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
And felt like it saved his life because he was
going wilding out on YouTube doing crazy shit, doing them
pranks and shit. He feel like it made him grow
up and kind of rilled him in because he was
getting in trouble and then like platforms getting demonetized. Stuff
was going on him and his brother doing you know, rightfully,

(01:37:28):
So I'm not shooting him many bails and shit they
was doing, but he feels like boxing kind of saved him,
reeled him back in from all that shit. So I
don't think he's playing when he's trying to box, and
I think a lot of people take offence to it
because they're like, who's this guy He's It's just like Brianni,

(01:37:50):
He's gotten access because of his fame, which I can
understand having a beef with that. If you somebody that's
boxing and been kind of coming up and trying to box,
trying to get in a professional level, and then this guy,
his YouTuber comes and they're just giving these motherfuckers fights
like Floyd Maywell and and just giving them all these
big ass fights off of his status. But y'all can understand.

(01:38:13):
I can understand that, but that doesn't mean that he's
not taking it serious. At the same time, and that's
what I see. So it's definitely gonna be interesting. I
don't even know if there's I don't know anything about
the fight, Like, I don't know if there's undercards.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
I don't know one. I think I saw a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
And that must start at eight, because it starts at eight,
So it'll be done by time y'all hear this and
watch this. It'll it'll be we'll have a winner, yeah,
because this will come out to come out this Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
We'll see though, we'll see if my prediction I predict
Tyson winning, I don't know that's what I want. I'm
not predicted anything.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
We'll see, yeah, I mean maybe a win win would be.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
I mean they both having a win win with the money,
that's a win win.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
How would you see a draw?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
I could see if it's a draw, it's definitely rigged. Okay,
that's how I see it. If it's a draw, they
definitely rigged it. And just was like, we're just doing
this for fun. For these thirty million or whatever. We
getting a piece Friday. More than that, I don't know
what Netflix is paying them. They gotta be paying them

(01:39:41):
a lot, because all you need is a subscription Netflix
to see it, and I'm sure a lot of people
subscribe this month just to see the fight, like people
that don't normally have Netflix, because that's the only way
to watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
So I guess we'll see in another hour.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
So we were just talking about off camera the Big
Three not being the Big three anymore, and I had said,
I like, it was a not a long time that
they were the Big three, But I take that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Back now it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
I mean, right, technically, yeah, yeah, yeah, technically. I don't
know when people started considering that. Yeah, it's just h
Drake's subconsciously.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
It was Drake right that said that, or Jake Cole.
I don't know, I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
But you know what, it is interesting because when it
first starts, it's more like maybe a big four, like
kick Cutty was in there at first then because kick
Cutty dropped before.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
And see I didn't think he was he was on
that level.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
That first album, That first album set like set a
precedent for me because he dropped first before Drake, before Cold.
I think like he was the first one out the gate,
out of that kind of generation. And that album was
big and like mature and like good. I don't think

(01:41:13):
I ever heard that whole album really because I didn't
really like it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
Cutting like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
I like some of his music, but I just I
couldn't get into him, into a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
A lot of his music.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
But I do know that it's revered, like I do
know that I see it because I've always I'm always outside,
like damn really like when I diseeazed off and it
makes me want to go back and listen to it
because I do. I do see stuff a lot. I
do see that people. People do hold it in high regard.

(01:41:47):
It's worth it, it's worth it, it's good like and
I and maybe I got different, you know, taste now
because when I when it first came out, I just
couldn't get with it. It just wasn't my thing. You try, Yeah,
I tried a couple of times and I turned it off,
like it's just it wasn't my thing. But like I said,

(01:42:08):
that was a long time ago, so maybe I might
try again. But objectively, I do see people say that
I'm just on the outside because I'm like really.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Then, I guess maybe at some point it became Cole,
Kendrick and Drake, it became them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Yeah, and you said that you think maybe Tyler's getting
in there, And now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
I mean, I think we're at the point where we
I wonder who's the new Big three. I think Tyler's
in there, and I don't, And I'm not so sure that.
I'm not so sure that Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Cold and Kendrick part of Big three anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
Yeah, I mean I hesitate to say Kendrick because.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
He's the He's he might still be, Yeah, he might
still be in whoever, whoever is the new people we
might be sitting in the seat.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Still, I think it's definitely I think Tyler, Tyler, Kendrick.
Who would be number three? I don't, I.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
Don't, I don't know. I can't be. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Who else is hot in the hip hop right now?
Like that on that level.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Consistent, I wouldn't know, Okay, Like yeah, me making the
Big three, it'd be all crazy shit, it'd be crazy.
It'd be like better where are you at nineteen ninety five?
Like what are you doing nineteen ninety five?

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Call listen? I'm so out of touch. I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
I couldn't even I couldn't do it, Just like with
the Grammys, I don't know, Wait.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Nas ain't nominated motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
It's Kendrick and Tyler top two.

Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
Right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say that
too this week.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
I bet I'm for real, Like that's how fast music
is consumed and how fast ship go. But definitely definitely
they the top right now write this second. Like I said,
it might be different next week and the week at
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Who could Who could change that? Who could change it?
Anybody that's nice come out? I don't. I know a
few people, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Yeah, I think that's that's the thing, like that is
so pecure, your pecure.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Your I can't say that word.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
But about that particular Moniker, I guess of the Big three,
like being that it takes years to get there, I think,
I mean definitely definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
I don't think a.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
New artist can come out and be considered no matter
how great they are and how big whatever record they
got or album or whatever. I just don't think they
could be ushered to that type of thing because I
think it's more than just being hot right this second.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
But is there anyone else that's on that level? I'm
not I'm the wrong person to ask, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
You ahead what you mean? Yeah, but I don't know
everybody that's out now like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
That's been though, that's been doing it. Excuse me, that's
on that level.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Like, but there's a lot of people on that level
that's been doing it, but they're not they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
To that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
The level of the youth, you know what I mean.
I think that's part of it too. You mean yeah, yeah, yeah,
Like I look at like NAS's run, Well, he might
have one of the greatest runs.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
I'm talking about hip hop that that, but but Nas
has had his time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
But that's what I mean, you know what I'm saying,
Like they wouldn't like I don't think that matters personally,
but I think everything that that means, it does. Like
everything that that means when people say it, it's not
a light thing. When people are saying the Big three,

(01:47:03):
I think, yeah, this.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Is a lot going on with that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
It's it's a lot more than just having a hot
you know, being hot or being having longevity or whatever.
It's something it's intangible there that's hard to explain, but
you know what it is, Like people know what that
intangible is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
They're solid, they're solid, they they're consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Consistent, they revered throughout, not just the youth and not
just the older people.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Like they're revered throughout.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
And I think there's a level of artists that there's
a level of time that takes to get there, and
once you pass that time, I think you can be
out of it due to that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Yeah, I think due to that time. Yeah, because I
wouldnt even put Eminem in it. I think he's had
his time, like yeah, where he was just top of
the top.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Like even though I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
Those artists like Eminem and nos and you know, I
feel like they're making better music, they're making just as
good some of the stuff that's just as good as
their old stuff, but the youth aspect is not there,
Like I didn't think. I don't think the youth aspects.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Been a lot of times, I just don't say nothing
because it's your opinion, and you're entitled the point argue.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
That's the point, because no, okay, that's that's your opinion. No,
that's the facts. Facts, it's your everybody has one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
I think their songs on here that are just as
good as his old music. I'm not saying the whole
album is is like I on it down with the
whole album, but there's songs that are just just as
good as his old music.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
And now it's also the songs just as you're talking
about the whole album.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Huh, you're talking about the whole album.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
No no, no, not the whole album, saying he's making some
music that's just as good as his old music that
the whole album, I ain't gonna say is just as good,
not eminem But again, I don't think that's that's the
only aspect of that big three discussion. There's an intangible

(01:49:35):
there that everybody knows. I think like everybody or most
people know, like there's something intangible that's there that's with
those artists, like just how they're revealed by like the
whole genre, the whole everybody that's in it, not just

(01:49:56):
the youth for the old people or the the you know,
the old old hip hop heads, and like everybody can agree,
there's an agreement there, I guess maybe throughout the whole culture,
and there's that thing that needs to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Yeah, and I think Tyler's there now, Yeah, I do too,
I do too.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
And I started seeing it. I started seeing it, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
The last album when he was just spitting like I
started seeing with songs like dove Tooth, that song like
uh yeah, especially that song that was I was enjoying
last time. I like dove Tooth. I like that wolf talk,
even though I don't know what he means when he

(01:50:43):
says wolf talk.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
I don't even know if I remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
It's like he's saying it's very a very he did
his best for real. He's singing that song. Uh, how
does it go? H? I probably didn't like that song,
he said, Rocky raps on it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know it's on that sorry song.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
But just that spitting Like there was this one song
that he got a video for it, and it's like
he start he start uh he he he start jumping
on the some dude asking to perform at this kid's
birthday party and he starts getting on the tables and

(01:51:36):
like it's so it's funny because.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
He would and I wonder he would be the perfect
person to do a show like Little Dicky mhm. I
know he likes his privacy though, so he probably wouldn't
And maybe they already approached him to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
I don't know, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Think he would be it would it would probably be
the same show. Let mean, let me put it that way,
Like Little Dickie is a great person for that show,
for his show. Everything he does and how he operates
his brain makes that show great. And I could see
that with Tyler, like having a show like that, But

(01:52:19):
they probably would be the same show just because they're
both similar to stuff they do. But it's just different backgrounds,
which is what one of the reasons that makes Little
Dickie show so funny too, because of like how traditionally
Jewish his upbringing was with his mom and dad and

(01:52:42):
how they don't really understand what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
They're like, you're looking for a job.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
He's like, nah, I rap I was on the Grammys yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Oh is that good? Like this is so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Mean, but that contrast is so fucking wild because they
be like, you're still.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Doing your music thing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Get a little bit of music.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
He's like, yeah, that's how I eat, Like, that's how
I make a living, mom, that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
So but yeah, I just I just see Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I could see Tyler in a role like that, just
being him. But yeah, I mean, but man, we've been
riding Tyler this a whole episode on his nut sets. Nah,
he deserves it though. I think he works hard. I
think his music is great and he definitely deserves the

(01:53:42):
accolades for real. His maturity too. I think it's great
to see him mature. And yeah, I just I like
when I see artists mature like this and just get
better with their with their craft because it's a level

(01:54:03):
of you can tell that they like, they love doing
this and that they respected. And I think that's you're
not always there when you're young. It's just some shit
that you like to do. So you're just doing it
and you're having to get famous and you're having to
make money from it. But it's not always you don't

(01:54:25):
always understand that. And being young and having all that
money and just making music just you know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
It's like whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
But to really mature and like really think about it
and move forward like with the subject matter and the
way you produce stuff and try to get better like
all that, all that matters.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
And it's a great album. Great album.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
One thing I like that, he said. So somebody asked him, like,
all right, what you want to focus on? Listen? Just
you want to focus on just just uh, just part
of the music or this kind of music or this
feel of that feel, and he was like, I want
to focus on what I want to do, what I.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Like, what I like.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Yeah, yeah, and that's that's dope. I think that's the
other thing. Like he's himself a lot, you know. I
think that's why Mask Office is so deep too, because
I think he had to get there too, even though
I think he's always been himself, but you know, he's
he's hitting parts of himself.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
So yeah, I really really like that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
I think we're gonna wind down. This was the talent
the creative episode.

Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
I can see.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
There's an interesting, uh discussion we can have amongst ourselves
where where we're comparing j Cole and Tyler the creator
and rapping and but it's like, I don't really want
to say that on here because I'm not trying to
take nothing away from one of them, you know what

(01:56:01):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
You know, So.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
Yeah, it's important to me, like two, be respectful, be respectful,
and consider it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
I think you could be respectful and still give your opinion.
I don't think giving an opinion is not respectful. I
think people people need to realize that too. There's ways
to give your opinion respectfully and just because you're not
feeling something or think something else is better. Don't mean
it's bad, and it doesn't mean it's a slight to you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
I said, I put it this way. I put it
this way. You can have two things. I don't want
to do it because I don't want to slight you
know what I'm saying. I don't want to because people
are different, and you can get something from one person
and you can go get something else from somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
That's why your opinion, because you have this opinion, like
this is how you feel. You might not like something
that somebody else did, and it happens to me all
the time. Yeah, or I like something that somebody else doesn't.
A lot of people don't like. No disrespecting this all
due respect to Nas. Nas is your favorite rapper. You
think everything that Nas has ever done is great? Right mostly? Yeah,

(01:57:20):
there's like three zones that are don't like me that he's.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Me my favorite Nas album. My favorite Nas album is
still Madic and I also like that would be down
on my list. Okay, yeah, I mean it's one of those,
but and I like it was written and I like
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
I never ranked his albums. I think I would have trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
But still Madic is number one, and I think it
was written it was probably number two, followed I Am
and I think I used to listen to God's Son,
but I don't remember it that much yet.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
That's a slept On album God, So yeah, yeah, that's
I don't think it was well, it wasn't really. What
wasn't slept On album or slept On joints is noster
Domas because there are some songs on there that I
don't like. Yeah, a lot of songs on there that

(01:58:17):
are dope in some of his best songs on Noster Domas,
but there's some songs that I don't like and that
I think was universally not like.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
So I like, I like the title song Domas. Yeah,
people was hating on that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
I didn't. I like that, Like that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Was tr but no, but yo, we're gonna get on
up out of here because one of the reasons is
the fight's gonna start.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
Uh gotta go check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
But yeah, we we we big up Tyler this episode,
which don't have a problem with because he deserves it,
like I said, And I hope everybody out there they
be safe.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Another thing, and another thing and another thing.

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
What you got to say on the closing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
I just realized that in watching that behind the scenes
where he's making the music that's a rollout, looks a
lot different than the making of the project.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
You know what I mean, Like he was right, man,
I thought you was right. No, I'm listening to you said.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
The rollout with the videos and you know, the ideas
and the costumes and stuff, it looks a lot different
than when he's in the studio making the Yeah you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
Know, yeah, yeah, he's he's a creative person. His name fits. Yeah, yeah,
that's a great name.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Yeah, he knew. I mean, he was a producer way
back when, so he felt like he created the.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
I understand. All right, people, we are out of here
for today. Let me see peace, safe, peace, love and
hair grease. Yes, you know, thing o, thing oh f o.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
As long as you're alive, you can give another trash
and take a real high if you want to know,

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