July 6, 2026 • 16 mins
In our strange decision to record a two-part mini, we are following up last week's mini with more information about the recent Iran "deal." Of course, we recorded this well before the cease-fire broke again. And who knows what will happen between scheduling this episode and its publication. Check out this discussion for the discussion around the contents of the actual recent agreement and how incredibly incompetent it is.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to Why we Do what we Do. Welcome
to Why We Do what we Do Mini. I'm your
host Abraham and I'm your host Shane. We are a
psychology podcast. We talk about the things that humans and
(00:24):
non human animals do, and usually we talk about that
in the context of everyday sort of just throughout history
type stuff, but sometimes we talk about like what just
happens type stuff. And this is the rarest of all
things and probably the last time that will ever happen.
Is a mini with two parts because we couldn't cover
what was in the first part and it still felt
(00:46):
like goes a mini, but a mini with two parts.
So that's where we're at. Yeah, and that's what we're
talking about. But the first part of this is covering
the history and background of the Iran nuclear deal that
was created in twenty fifteen by the Obama administration. And
then we're really getting into the new quote unquote deal
(01:08):
that we have in the with Iran right now, but
before we get into that, If you like what you
hear in this episode, and you would like to support us, so,
you can join us on Patreon, leave us a rating
and a review, like subscribe to tell a friend. I'll
talk more about those at the end of this discussion.
If you're joining us for the first time, then welcome
and if you're joining us for a second time or more,
(01:29):
then welcome back. And if you had not hear the
first part, these are short, you can go back and
check that out, but we will do a very brief
recap of sort of the highlights of the last episode
because some of them are going to be very important
to set the context for our current episode. Okay, that
was a lot. Is there anything I'd miss or you
like to add before we do a quick recap?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, I think that cover. I think we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, okay. Very importantly, in twenty fifteen, Obama, the Obama administration,
with five other countries, the Security Council, China, France, Russia,
the UK, and Germany all had put together a deal
to get Iran to back down from making nuclear weapons.
So it was like a big thing. The United States
had frozen and held onto a lot of assets belonging
to Iran, so they really had They were missing a
(02:13):
lot of money that could have otherwise been theirs, and
they essentially said we will give back, we will free
up this money. Or give back some money that we
owed you if you comply with your part of the deal,
and that was to lower their uranium enrichment to three
point six seven percent, reduce their centrifuges by two thirds,
reduce their nuclear stockpile by ninety eight percent, so they
couldn't even make a weapon, and that they couldn't hold
(02:35):
on to spent fuel, and that under no circumstances would
they ever try to develop or acquire nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. And also at this point in time, we paid
back or as part of the deal, we were paying
back one point seven billion dollars in weapons that Iran
had purchased that they never got. So you know, it
was a chargeback, which was rightfully so a chargeback because
they didn't get what they paid for, so we sent money.
And in total, Obama had ended up bringing about one
(03:04):
hundred and seventeen billion dollars, none of which was ours.
Super important point, none of this money belonged to us.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay, Yeah, as far as we can tell, it seems
like this was all like assets that belonged to Iran
that we had basically held away from them and then
allowed them to re obtain. Seems like that was how
it was completely set up. And then in twenty eighteen
and Trump's first administration, he destroyed the deal and had
(03:32):
nothing in place, and so of course I ran started
their nuclear program right back up as far as we know,
and obviously it takes a while to do that, so
I don't know how far they actually got. But Trump
was never able to negotiate a deal and then started
bombing them in February of this year for reasons very unclear.
So far, the amount that we have spent just spent
(03:53):
on the war part of this is twenty eight billion dollars. Yes,
that's from like American taxpayer money, funding weapons, bombs, military personnel,
all kinds of things of that nature. Thirteen American service
members have died because of this. The Pentagon is asking
for another eighty billion dollars. So where the first one
(04:15):
we spent no money, and what money we had in
our reserves that we gave back to them was already theirs,
which was one point seven billion dollars. We're currently at
at least twenty eight billion dollars looking for probably another
eighty billion dollars. Experts estimate this could range from one
hundred and thirty two billion to a trillion dollars and
cost to us, which includes some other things we're going
(04:37):
to get to as the next part of this. So
that's essentially the background here of what has sort of
happened before and where we're at. Well, we're getting up
to where we're at currently, but that was the setup
for where we were. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I also think it's important to because we did mention
the folks that died A like service members, there are
about thirty five hundred Iranian citizens that A also died
as a result at.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The point, like noncombative citizens, just human beings who are
just trying to live their lives.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yep. So lots of people are dying. And this brings
us up to today, which is getting into the quote
unquote deal or the Membranum of Understanding, the MoU that
is in place of note where's the last deal? There
was broad international support. This deal is simply the US
versus Iran. The Memorandum of Understanding isn't actually an agreement
(05:30):
to continue further negotiations. It is not illegally binding deal
so far, and we don't actually get anything from the agreement,
but Iran does. So it's really important to understand that
there's an MoU in place and it's not legally binding,
which means that we could also pull out of this
deal at any point in time, which is you know,
(05:52):
kind of there's a track record of this from the administration.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So true, so true. So right now we're in we're
a kind of ceasefire sort of. That's a little bit complicated,
and we'll get to why in a moment. But out
of this, Trump agreed to several upfront concessions before any
actual action takes place. We didn't get to this in
the recap, but as as a reminder from last time,
in the original deal, Iran got nothing until they demonstrated
(06:20):
they were complying with the rules that we set for them.
So once they had done the things they said they
were going to do and were on track to continue
doing those, that's when they started getting some funds freed up.
In this current one, they have agreed to do some
things but not actually done anything, and in an attempt
to get more oil into the country, Trump has lifted
(06:42):
a cap on Russian oil prices, which increased Russia's oil
revenue by about twenty two billion dollars, which they can
use to further their attacks on Ukraine. Trump also lifted
oil sanction immediately lifted oil sanctions against Iran, again not
waiting for them to follow through on anything. And that's
estimated to have increased their revenue from oil by seventy
(07:04):
eight billion dollars over what they would have gotten. So
not like they will get seventy eight billion, it's seventy
eight billion more than if we had never left the
original deal in the first place. So what essentially happened
is without anybody actually doing anything or like they said,
we'll continue talking about this, but they've made no actions
(07:25):
to actually do anything. Yet they just get all of
this financial windfall bestowed upon them Russia and Iran arguably
two of the worst people to give that money to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's kind of like what
happened with us when we started doing ads. We got
this huge revenue windfall and now we're you know, we're
we're living in gold brick beds.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So we were just talking about the fact that is
part of the memorandum of understanding, which isn't even actually
a deal. Trump has already freed up a ton of
assets without anybody actually demonstrating any compliance with anything.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yes. So also as part of this MoU where again
in this deal we are giving consessions and Iran hasn't
done anything about this yet. Trump has given Iran total
control over the Strait of Horn moves, which they have
already stated they will use to find tankers and other
maritime traffic in that they can now use to put
(08:26):
pressure on the US and other countries by controlling the
flow of oil through the strait. The details on this
part are fuzzy and difficult to verify.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, so it seems like how much control WUL they've
actually gotten, We're not sure, but it does seem like
he has given them control and they're like, ooh, we
can use this as leverage and we can now specifically
impose fines on people who are trying to run traffic
through here and make even more money that way.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
As part of this memorandum of understanding, Trump has already
freed up twelve billion dollars of assets immediately without asking
for or requiring anything from Iran. To receive this money.
They just get it. They're like, we when assign this deal,
you just get this money. Here you go, whereas in
the last time, again they didn't get a penny until
they had already demonstrated compliance. Here, they just get twelve
(09:13):
billion dollars in assets that would been frozen, and then
is also now planning to free up another seventy eight
billion dollars in assets. So that's bringing that two ninety
billion dollars of unfrozen assets, that is without requiring them
to do anything. And as a quick reminder, Obama's deal
resulted in giving Iran one point seven one point seven
(09:35):
Just make sure those numbers are clear. Trump is letting
Iran get ninety billion dollars after complaining about Obama's deal,
which gave them one point seven billion dollars of their
own money back, freeing up in total about one hundred
and seventeen billion dollars after they comply to the terms
of the deal. Trump has already given them twelve billion
free is freeing up seventy eight billion dollars more. Has
(09:57):
already likely spent one hundred billion dollars on this war,
not even factoring in what Americans have paid in inflation
and the lives that have been lost and what it
will cost to rebuild. And we haven't even gotten to
the worst parts yet.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah. So, speaking of the worst parts when it comes
to financial costs and all that stuff. The US has
agreed to three hundred billion dollars in reconstruction funds, with
no reference to where that money will come from at all.
Trump rambled about people investing in rhetorically asking if the
media wanted him to stop people from investing in Iran,
and that taxpayers won't pay for this, but experts state
(10:31):
the taxpayers will have to pay for this, and no
one has any idea what he means about investors paying
for this. Now, I think it's really important to note that, like,
we were wrong in bombing Iran, so we should be
reconstructing in that space, because we shouldn't have been bombing
them or doing this in the first place if we
would have kept the original deal that Obama had in
the beginning that he destroyed. So it makes sense that
(10:54):
we should be rebuilding because the United States messed up.
But I think what we have to talk about here
is that this is just an example of somebody who
made a malicious mistake, and now we are having to
as taxpayers and as citizens, having to make up for
that mistake.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Given the amount of money that his family has made
through corruption and using the government to allow them to
make lucrative financial business deals. And I know that just
from Crypto alone, they've made over that much. I think
all of that money should come entirely out of his
own Yeah, finances, agreed of it, and pay back all
(11:33):
the taxpayers for the money he's cost them also out
of his own finances. Yes, and if there's still anything
left after that, just keep giving it to the taxpayers
until there's nothing left, because he doesn't deserve one penny.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, agreed, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
The US also agreed on Israel's behalf to stop attacks
in Lebanon. Israel's the one doing the attacking in Israel
did not agree to this and is continuing to launch
those attacks. So just one thing to note is like
a part of this we're like we'll stop, it's like
attacked and Lebanon will stop, and Israel's like no, and
(12:06):
so they haven't stopped. And so whatever part of the
deal we said we were going to fulfill on, we're
not doing with respect to that right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And while the previous administration was largely wiped out by
the bombs, the Iranian administration, the people that stood up
to take their place, are much more extreme hardliners than
the people who were in power before, likely making them
a much more dangerous enemy with far less desire to
negotiate with us. And why would they They're like, they're like,
you just bombed us. We had a deal, and you
(12:35):
bombed us. Why would we agree with you now?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And also like, now you're giving us everything we want
and you don't even ask us for anything, so right, right, yeah,
we'll take the money and then we will kill you.
But yeah, they they wanted a regime change, they got
it to a much more extreme regime. So there we are.
There's also actually, there are no terms whatsoever in this
(12:59):
about Iran's ability to create nuclear weapons, right, they're not
in there. There are no rules, no requests, no demands,
no anything. Just an agreement to continue negotiating the topic
for another sixty days.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
An agreement to agree.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, here's ninety billion dollars. Let's see if we can
hash this out of another sixty months. About what you
will give me in return? Sure, I'm guessing it will
be very very little, possibly nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think we have to ask
the question of, like, what did the US get out
of this deal? We got a huge amount of debt
and inflation and no agreement that things will be safer
in the future. And I want to be clear about this,
This is not like acause I think that whenever it
comes to politics and you might hear us like share
our opinions and stuff like that, I think that it's
very easy to assume that this is coming from a
(13:46):
more leftist and like a leftist bent. But this is
something that's verifiable. Like when you look at this MoU,
you look at how much money the US is spent
on this, You look at what the agreement costs right now.
You look at like current terms, and the US got
the option to have negotiations and we got all the
debt and inflation and no agreement that things are going
(14:07):
to even change. Like we all we have is an
agreement to continue and we've lost a lot of money
on it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And even many of Trump's allies are like, this is
the worst deal we could possibly have. Even Ted Cruz,
one of the most sycophantic ballsuckers of Trump's flock, is like,
this was a terrible, terrible agreement that we've reached. Even
Tucker Carlson, one of the most punishable people in the world,
has left the GOP in a large part because of
(14:34):
all of this, which is crazy because that guy is
like evil. Yeah, so anyway, they were too evil for him. Okay, Well, basically,
what we had was an agreement that was working. We
had that Trump came in and tore that agreement up,
devastated our economy, cost us tons of money in the
lives of some Americans, and then came back empty handed.
(14:55):
Yeah that's what happens, yep.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
If this was a right between two people, the US
took the role of one of the people stopping and saying, Okay,
hit me in the face as hard as you can,
as much as you want, and I won't fight back.
And the other person agrees and does exactly that. And
that's what's happening right now. Like it's it's absolutely a
one sided affair. And if you voted for Trump, you
voted for this. So here we are, all of us
(15:17):
in here with those mistakes that continue to haunt us
because thinking is so hard. Yeah, we'll go and wrap
up this mini hero went a little long for a
part two, but well that's where we are with a
Ran deal. Wanted to just get this topical thing out
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(15:39):
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(16:10):
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You can learn more about this and other episodes by
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we hope you have an awesome day.
You're listening to Why we Do what we Do. Welcome
to Why We Do what we Do Mini. I'm your
host Abraham and I'm your host Shane. We are a
psychology podcast. We talk about the things that humans and
(00:24):
non human animals do, and usually we talk about that
in the context of everyday sort of just throughout history
type stuff, but sometimes we talk about like what just
happens type stuff. And this is the rarest of all
things and probably the last time that will ever happen.
Is a mini with two parts because we couldn't cover
what was in the first part and it still felt
(00:46):
like goes a mini, but a mini with two parts.
So that's where we're at. Yeah, and that's what we're
talking about. But the first part of this is covering
the history and background of the Iran nuclear deal that
was created in twenty fifteen by the Obama administration. And
then we're really getting into the new quote unquote deal
(01:08):
that we have in the with Iran right now, but
before we get into that, If you like what you
hear in this episode, and you would like to support us, so,
you can join us on Patreon, leave us a rating
and a review, like subscribe to tell a friend. I'll
talk more about those at the end of this discussion.
If you're joining us for the first time, then welcome
and if you're joining us for a second time or more,
(01:29):
then welcome back. And if you had not hear the
first part, these are short, you can go back and
check that out, but we will do a very brief
recap of sort of the highlights of the last episode
because some of them are going to be very important
to set the context for our current episode. Okay, that
was a lot. Is there anything I'd miss or you
like to add before we do a quick recap?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, I think that cover. I think we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, okay. Very importantly, in twenty fifteen, Obama, the Obama administration,
with five other countries, the Security Council, China, France, Russia,
the UK, and Germany all had put together a deal
to get Iran to back down from making nuclear weapons.
So it was like a big thing. The United States
had frozen and held onto a lot of assets belonging
to Iran, so they really had They were missing a
(02:13):
lot of money that could have otherwise been theirs, and
they essentially said we will give back, we will free
up this money. Or give back some money that we
owed you if you comply with your part of the deal,
and that was to lower their uranium enrichment to three
point six seven percent, reduce their centrifuges by two thirds,
reduce their nuclear stockpile by ninety eight percent, so they
couldn't even make a weapon, and that they couldn't hold
(02:35):
on to spent fuel, and that under no circumstances would
they ever try to develop or acquire nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. And also at this point in time, we paid
back or as part of the deal, we were paying
back one point seven billion dollars in weapons that Iran
had purchased that they never got. So you know, it
was a chargeback, which was rightfully so a chargeback because
they didn't get what they paid for, so we sent money.
And in total, Obama had ended up bringing about one
(03:04):
hundred and seventeen billion dollars, none of which was ours.
Super important point, none of this money belonged to us.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay, Yeah, as far as we can tell, it seems
like this was all like assets that belonged to Iran
that we had basically held away from them and then
allowed them to re obtain. Seems like that was how
it was completely set up. And then in twenty eighteen
and Trump's first administration, he destroyed the deal and had
(03:32):
nothing in place, and so of course I ran started
their nuclear program right back up as far as we know,
and obviously it takes a while to do that, so
I don't know how far they actually got. But Trump
was never able to negotiate a deal and then started
bombing them in February of this year for reasons very unclear.
So far, the amount that we have spent just spent
(03:53):
on the war part of this is twenty eight billion dollars. Yes,
that's from like American taxpayer money, funding weapons, bombs, military personnel,
all kinds of things of that nature. Thirteen American service
members have died because of this. The Pentagon is asking
for another eighty billion dollars. So where the first one
(04:15):
we spent no money, and what money we had in
our reserves that we gave back to them was already theirs,
which was one point seven billion dollars. We're currently at
at least twenty eight billion dollars looking for probably another
eighty billion dollars. Experts estimate this could range from one
hundred and thirty two billion to a trillion dollars and
cost to us, which includes some other things we're going
(04:37):
to get to as the next part of this. So
that's essentially the background here of what has sort of
happened before and where we're at. Well, we're getting up
to where we're at currently, but that was the setup
for where we were. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I also think it's important to because we did mention
the folks that died A like service members, there are
about thirty five hundred Iranian citizens that A also died
as a result at.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The point, like noncombative citizens, just human beings who are
just trying to live their lives.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yep. So lots of people are dying. And this brings
us up to today, which is getting into the quote
unquote deal or the Membranum of Understanding, the MoU that
is in place of note where's the last deal? There
was broad international support. This deal is simply the US
versus Iran. The Memorandum of Understanding isn't actually an agreement
(05:30):
to continue further negotiations. It is not illegally binding deal
so far, and we don't actually get anything from the agreement,
but Iran does. So it's really important to understand that
there's an MoU in place and it's not legally binding,
which means that we could also pull out of this
deal at any point in time, which is you know,
(05:52):
kind of there's a track record of this from the administration.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So true, so true. So right now we're in we're
a kind of ceasefire sort of. That's a little bit complicated,
and we'll get to why in a moment. But out
of this, Trump agreed to several upfront concessions before any
actual action takes place. We didn't get to this in
the recap, but as as a reminder from last time,
in the original deal, Iran got nothing until they demonstrated
(06:20):
they were complying with the rules that we set for them.
So once they had done the things they said they
were going to do and were on track to continue
doing those, that's when they started getting some funds freed up.
In this current one, they have agreed to do some
things but not actually done anything, and in an attempt
to get more oil into the country, Trump has lifted
(06:42):
a cap on Russian oil prices, which increased Russia's oil
revenue by about twenty two billion dollars, which they can
use to further their attacks on Ukraine. Trump also lifted
oil sanction immediately lifted oil sanctions against Iran, again not
waiting for them to follow through on anything. And that's
estimated to have increased their revenue from oil by seventy
(07:04):
eight billion dollars over what they would have gotten. So
not like they will get seventy eight billion, it's seventy
eight billion more than if we had never left the
original deal in the first place. So what essentially happened
is without anybody actually doing anything or like they said,
we'll continue talking about this, but they've made no actions
(07:25):
to actually do anything. Yet they just get all of
this financial windfall bestowed upon them Russia and Iran arguably
two of the worst people to give that money to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's kind of like what
happened with us when we started doing ads. We got
this huge revenue windfall and now we're you know, we're
we're living in gold brick beds.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So we were just talking about the fact that is
part of the memorandum of understanding, which isn't even actually
a deal. Trump has already freed up a ton of
assets without anybody actually demonstrating any compliance with anything.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yes. So also as part of this MoU where again
in this deal we are giving consessions and Iran hasn't
done anything about this yet. Trump has given Iran total
control over the Strait of Horn moves, which they have
already stated they will use to find tankers and other
maritime traffic in that they can now use to put
(08:26):
pressure on the US and other countries by controlling the
flow of oil through the strait. The details on this
part are fuzzy and difficult to verify.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, so it seems like how much control WUL they've
actually gotten, We're not sure, but it does seem like
he has given them control and they're like, ooh, we
can use this as leverage and we can now specifically
impose fines on people who are trying to run traffic
through here and make even more money that way.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
As part of this memorandum of understanding, Trump has already
freed up twelve billion dollars of assets immediately without asking
for or requiring anything from Iran. To receive this money.
They just get it. They're like, we when assign this deal,
you just get this money. Here you go, whereas in
the last time, again they didn't get a penny until
they had already demonstrated compliance. Here, they just get twelve
(09:13):
billion dollars in assets that would been frozen, and then
is also now planning to free up another seventy eight
billion dollars in assets. So that's bringing that two ninety
billion dollars of unfrozen assets, that is without requiring them
to do anything. And as a quick reminder, Obama's deal
resulted in giving Iran one point seven one point seven
(09:35):
Just make sure those numbers are clear. Trump is letting
Iran get ninety billion dollars after complaining about Obama's deal,
which gave them one point seven billion dollars of their
own money back, freeing up in total about one hundred
and seventeen billion dollars after they comply to the terms
of the deal. Trump has already given them twelve billion
free is freeing up seventy eight billion dollars more. Has
(09:57):
already likely spent one hundred billion dollars on this war,
not even factoring in what Americans have paid in inflation
and the lives that have been lost and what it
will cost to rebuild. And we haven't even gotten to
the worst parts yet.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah. So, speaking of the worst parts when it comes
to financial costs and all that stuff. The US has
agreed to three hundred billion dollars in reconstruction funds, with
no reference to where that money will come from at all.
Trump rambled about people investing in rhetorically asking if the
media wanted him to stop people from investing in Iran,
and that taxpayers won't pay for this, but experts state
(10:31):
the taxpayers will have to pay for this, and no
one has any idea what he means about investors paying
for this. Now, I think it's really important to note that, like,
we were wrong in bombing Iran, so we should be
reconstructing in that space, because we shouldn't have been bombing
them or doing this in the first place if we
would have kept the original deal that Obama had in
the beginning that he destroyed. So it makes sense that
(10:54):
we should be rebuilding because the United States messed up.
But I think what we have to talk about here
is that this is just an example of somebody who
made a malicious mistake, and now we are having to
as taxpayers and as citizens, having to make up for
that mistake.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Given the amount of money that his family has made
through corruption and using the government to allow them to
make lucrative financial business deals. And I know that just
from Crypto alone, they've made over that much. I think
all of that money should come entirely out of his
own Yeah, finances, agreed of it, and pay back all
(11:33):
the taxpayers for the money he's cost them also out
of his own finances. Yes, and if there's still anything
left after that, just keep giving it to the taxpayers
until there's nothing left, because he doesn't deserve one penny.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, agreed, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
The US also agreed on Israel's behalf to stop attacks
in Lebanon. Israel's the one doing the attacking in Israel
did not agree to this and is continuing to launch
those attacks. So just one thing to note is like
a part of this we're like we'll stop, it's like
attacked and Lebanon will stop, and Israel's like no, and
(12:06):
so they haven't stopped. And so whatever part of the
deal we said we were going to fulfill on, we're
not doing with respect to that right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And while the previous administration was largely wiped out by
the bombs, the Iranian administration, the people that stood up
to take their place, are much more extreme hardliners than
the people who were in power before, likely making them
a much more dangerous enemy with far less desire to
negotiate with us. And why would they They're like, they're like,
you just bombed us. We had a deal, and you
(12:35):
bombed us. Why would we agree with you now?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And also like, now you're giving us everything we want
and you don't even ask us for anything, so right, right, yeah,
we'll take the money and then we will kill you.
But yeah, they they wanted a regime change, they got
it to a much more extreme regime. So there we are.
There's also actually, there are no terms whatsoever in this
(12:59):
about Iran's ability to create nuclear weapons, right, they're not
in there. There are no rules, no requests, no demands,
no anything. Just an agreement to continue negotiating the topic
for another sixty days.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
An agreement to agree.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, here's ninety billion dollars. Let's see if we can
hash this out of another sixty months. About what you
will give me in return? Sure, I'm guessing it will
be very very little, possibly nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think we have to ask
the question of, like, what did the US get out
of this deal? We got a huge amount of debt
and inflation and no agreement that things will be safer
in the future. And I want to be clear about this,
This is not like acause I think that whenever it
comes to politics and you might hear us like share
our opinions and stuff like that, I think that it's
very easy to assume that this is coming from a
(13:46):
more leftist and like a leftist bent. But this is
something that's verifiable. Like when you look at this MoU,
you look at how much money the US is spent
on this, You look at what the agreement costs right now.
You look at like current terms, and the US got
the option to have negotiations and we got all the
debt and inflation and no agreement that things are going
(14:07):
to even change. Like we all we have is an
agreement to continue and we've lost a lot of money
on it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And even many of Trump's allies are like, this is
the worst deal we could possibly have. Even Ted Cruz,
one of the most sycophantic ballsuckers of Trump's flock, is like,
this was a terrible, terrible agreement that we've reached. Even
Tucker Carlson, one of the most punishable people in the world,
has left the GOP in a large part because of
(14:34):
all of this, which is crazy because that guy is
like evil. Yeah, so anyway, they were too evil for him. Okay, Well, basically,
what we had was an agreement that was working. We
had that Trump came in and tore that agreement up,
devastated our economy, cost us tons of money in the
lives of some Americans, and then came back empty handed.
(14:55):
Yeah that's what happens, yep.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
If this was a right between two people, the US
took the role of one of the people stopping and saying, Okay,
hit me in the face as hard as you can,
as much as you want, and I won't fight back.
And the other person agrees and does exactly that. And
that's what's happening right now. Like it's it's absolutely a
one sided affair. And if you voted for Trump, you
voted for this. So here we are, all of us
(15:17):
in here with those mistakes that continue to haunt us
because thinking is so hard. Yeah, we'll go and wrap
up this mini hero went a little long for a
part two, but well that's where we are with a
Ran deal. Wanted to just get this topical thing out
there in the world. If you would like to tell
us your thoughts on this, you can email us directly
at info at WWDWWD podcast dot com or reach us
(15:39):
on the social media platforms. And I think we look
forward to hearing from you. I mean, we do, we do,
but you know, constructive criticism or you know, you know, whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
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all for listening. Is there anything you would like to
add or that I forgot before we wrap this one up? No,
(16:10):
I think that covers it all, right then, thank you
for listening. This is Abraham and this is Shane. Why
we Do what we do? Mini is out. Bye. You've
been listening to Why We Do what We Do.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You can learn more about this and other episodes by
going to WWDWWD podcast dot com. Thanks for listening, and
we hope you have an awesome day.
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