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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Battles, the politicians addressed, the digitators and magicians. Who's to
see the money?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Then you don't?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
There's nothing to fill the holes while they are filling
their pockets. Biles, the politicians bouncing down the road. Every body'sition,
no moment, corruption and dysfunction, it's gone a date, divide it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Even major events in Baton Rouge and in Washington, d C.
Matt Gates no longer a g much to talk about
in the Secret Story as to why, including Mike Johnson's
sort of two faces about what to do in the
Congress and in and out of the bathroom stalls, and
of course the legislative session is coming to an end.
(00:52):
But all of that before a more important question, who
invented the mac and cheese? We're going to actually discuss
that here in song with a new offer of the
cookoff that we're going to tell you about that's premiering
on December eighth. All that and more on this edition
of The Founder's Show.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And God bless all out there. You're now listening to
The Founder's Show. The voice of the Founding Fathers. You're
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(01:32):
Spanish moss way out on the Eagles Branch is none
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Speaker 4 (01:38):
Hi mceenry, who with Christopher Tidmorey roving reporter, resident radical
moderate and associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at
Louisiana Weekly dot net And Hi, you know, Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And in Baton Rouge at the Legislature, they're dealing with
not turkeys this Thanksgiving week, but a lot of pork,
particularly what's going to be in the tax budget and
what's going to be in these temporary spending budgets. But
the real pork they were dealing with was a lot
of differing kind of perspectives on how to deal with
two separate problems. Now, for those that haven't been watching it,
(02:14):
Matt Gates, of course, was nominated or designated to be
precise by Donald Trump, to be the new Attorney General
of the United States, and on Thursday, November twenty first,
he dropped out of contention because a weird set of
events had happened. Now I will give you We always
like to say, you know, one of my great heroes
(02:36):
in radio, Paul Harvey, used to say, and here is
the rest of this story.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Was it It was not Clinton, it was not Clintonian.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It was Johnsonian. It was as in Mike Johnson. So
we heard a lot about Mike Johnson and bathrooms this week,
and we'll talk about that in a second. But the
fact is there is a much more interesting story. Now.
Mike Johnson, kind of Louisiana Republican, kind of gets this
reputation as a MAGA soldier, a one marching to the
effects of Donald Trump. But that's not always true. And
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this is kind of the instance where it was. So
if anybody hadn't been watching this Matt Gates situation, of course,
for those that don't know both of you, Matt Gates
was a congressman and is technically still a congressman from
the Panhandle of Florida. He represents the Pensacola area where
most New Orleanians go to the beach, and so he
he was up to become Attorney General, but he's under
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a House ethics investigation, and these ethics are not about spending, yesh,
They're about well, how should he put this?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Very clinton like blue dresses.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It was under at least Clinton was a twenty four
year old. These were seventeen year olds. But I'm not
defending it's just as.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Bad either freanquent or a regular frame of pedophile island
Clinton was. Come on, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I'm not defending. I'm not going to defend Bill Clinton
section labs. I'm just let's attest to it. The point
is Matt Gates, Matt Gates was some of the revelations
that were starting to come out. We're making even most
Republicans of the Senate like, who is this guy? I mean,
these weren't like this wasn't we had an extramarital affair.
This was they had parties, very Clintonian like what we're
talking or very Jeffrey what's his name? Epstein. The point
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being in all of this is that Matt Gates was
getting very nervous, and so Donald Trump was doubling down
on the Gates nomination, and what he wanted to do
was make a recess appointment. Now here's how recess appointments
work technically under the Constitution. Therefore the president to make
an appointment when Congress is out of session. It was
in the nineteenth century, in the eighteenth century when Congress
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would meet m.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Boshington. Many presidents have done it in the past.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's not it's not unusual. So did George w. Bush,
Barack Obama. But usually, but they usually do it historically.
Let me give it we talked the Founder show. Historically,
even though a recess appointment colassed up to two years,
using George Washington as an example, it was until the
next legislative session of Congress that basically you were filling
an office while Congress was out of town. And so
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they so it wasn't unoccupied in Congress to come in.
It's been abused by both parties. There's there's no there's
no good guys here, Bush, Obama, Biden, you know, everybody, Clinton.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
About forty it's still all the president.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's it has become increasingly common since the nineteen nineties
that this is a practice. So, but it's never been
done at the beginning of an administration. And so Donald
Trump wanted Congress to go out of session so he
could deal recess appointment. Well, it looked like for a
while the Senate was going to go out of session
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and the House would follow and Donald Trump would be
able to do this, and it wouldn't go up for
a vote in the Senate, where there are not even
though there are fifty three senators after the inauguration that
are of the GOP variety, there were not fifty three
votes from at Gates. They were lucky if they got
forty eight. Except Mike Johnson wouldn't play along with this thing,
and a weird kind kind of way. Did he come
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out and oppose Matt Gates? No, did he come out
and condemn it. No, he just let a couple of
his backbenchers say, we're going to stay in town and
gavel in the House of Representatives every day from here
to the inauguration and beyond. And as long as the
House of Representatives is in session, Congress is not recessed.
As long as Congress is not recessed, constitutionally you cannot
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make a recess appointment. And so Matt Gates was in
the peculiar position of that was the skill that was
the rocks. You try to come around the island where
he was not going to get the reciss appointment. He
was going to face the Senate vote. And of the
charibdis of all of this is it was going to
be a very bruising kind of nomination process because it's
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now as the reason we're hearing all this stuff is
the House Ethics report is coming out. Now here's another thing.
Mike Johnson had said these reports never come out. Well,
it's actually true. They've come out five times in the
last twelve twelve years. They do out, and they were
starting to be leaked and the stuff was sallacious to
the point of absurdity. Now I'm telling you this story
that basically Mike Johnson has killed the Matt Gates nomination
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and he did it. He didn't do it indvertly. He
did it very subtly, using the rules and operations. And
it shows you what a powerful political player Mike Johnson
of Louisiana has become. And he's thwarted Donald Trump his
biggest ally without coming out and thwarting it. And the
reason I'm telling you all of this is the Nancy
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Mace Sarah McBride situation could have been handled in a
very similar fashion. He chose not to. Now, for those
that don't know, when I'm talking about this, is the
biggest mountain of a mole hill on the right, or
however you want to put it. Sarah McBride is the
new congresswoman from Delaware. They have one one for the
whole state. Delaware is not a big place. And she
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is a transgender woman, or if you want to call it.
She used to be a man as now a woman.
She was elected people Nancy Mace, she did not demand
to use the men's or women's bathroom. She actually didn't
bring it up at all. But Nancy Mace, who is
a South Carolina Republican congresswoman, files a bill.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Who's a victim of rape and she is she's so
takes and stuff very seriously. Folks.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, just because you're transcender doesn't mean you're a rapist.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, come on, no, but it is. Oh, come on, Chris.
We know the transgender people are going in the wrong
bathroom and taking advantage of the people in there. We
know that that's not common, don't know, we don't is
a big problem across the country.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hy can I finish my statement, of course, because it's.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Just time to make sure this trans's agenda doesn't pull a.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'm sorry, there's never been an accusation. You will admit
there's never been an accusation at Sarah's McBride at all.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
No, I don't know that mad Gates had stuff against him,
all kinds of things that are in people's closets. I
don't know. All I know is that the transgender people,
all right, are anfamous and so are homosexual so being predators,
sexual predators they are, yes, yes, okay, let me forensics.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Christ No, I am looking forensics because you're you're classifying
people on their orientation as being.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
On how they commit crimes. Christopher, all right, yeah, I'm sorry,
I mean just oriented that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm my apologies, but no, just because a person has
a different orientation doesn't making the rapist, but.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It made him when I say they have a higher possibility.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
All right.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Probably here's the thing about rules in the House. One
of the things that Mike Johnson could have done in
this situation very simply is said, well, look, I don't
think she should use the men and women's bathroom. Just
come out and say it and then let Nancy Mace
file her bill. This is why he put the pronouncement,
and it had to be of you had to use
the bathroom of your birth gender, because he didn't want
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her to file that bill. He didn't want to have
this fight. And I respect the political difficulty the man
was in, but what he could have done is saying, look,
I don't think she should use it. She should use
her own member's bathroom, because each congressman has their own
private bathroom in their offices, and let it be of that.
Let Nancy Mace follow her bill and then kill it
in committee. Basically let it die. But the reason he
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didn't was because of what you just said. There's a
visceral reaction to this situation. Very except that, I'm sorry.
Transgender does not mean that you're they.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Have a higher probability of committing sexual crimes. Course for
they do.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, look by that by the things you're if you're
a priest, you have a higher probability of creating a
sexual crime because they've had sexual I mean, come on,
high and that's a shame, but probably no, I'm sorry,
right now, they've got ministers. There's a higher Let me
give you a statistic if you follow this logic, high,
and I think it's ridiculous, there is a higher probability
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of being a sexual predator on young girls if you're
a Protestant minister, Tue, yes, it is. I can show
you the statistics.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Then the general you're wrong, You're wrong. No, I'm sorry,
but you're you're so wrong.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's what you're you're getting at you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'll say this, there's a higher probability of tele evangelists
doing all that junk. That's true.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, I can show you the stats compared Baptist ministers
compared to the whole country. Now, but here's the thing, Hi,
this is what it is. We're talking about instances that
are miniscule and the grand scheme of things, and we're
spending all of this time talking about situations that frankly,
do not affect the rest of the world. We have
so many problems on this planet. We've got a huge deficit,
we've got taxes, we've got trade, we've got people who
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are in really difficult situations. And the fact is we
spend all of this time and look, I'm commending the
Speaker for dealing with the situation by using the rules
in a creative way and actually thwarting Donald Trump, but
actually keeping Matt Gates, who was going to be an embarrassment.
He actually ultimately, Mike Johnson protected Donald Trump because if
Matt Gates had gone to Confirmation, if Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Exactly what he was protecting the Republican Party. And now
Donalds and Trump from the centiend with Mike, well with
Gates themselves.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Now, let me tell you, Donald Trump is really mad
at Mike Johnson for doing this. He's not an appreciative
of being protected. Mike Johnson said, And this is the point.
You give lip service to this stuff. But frankly, there
are things that matter more in this world. And I'm
give you an example.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Wait, how do we go? We went from Matt Gates.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, but I was using example that was using the consistency.
How you can use the rules to kill something when
there's all this emotion about it. Let me give you
Let me give you an example. So last week we're
going to talk as I am weaving.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Your following from place method of communication.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'm going I'm weaving, I'm interplaying different ideas. Let me
give you an idea of something that really does matter.
And it's just kind of gone on on the wayside.
Last week you heard Hi and I talk about the
tax reform issues, and we're going to spend our next
episode of The Founder's Show really talking about what happened
in this legislative session. So bear with us till after Thanksgiving.
But it's Thanksgiving week. We got other things to talk about.
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And but I will say one thing. Both High and
I made a point and we said, you know, we
don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water,
with losing the live performance film historic restoration tax credits
that create a lot of our economy. But we have
to look at it. If we're going to cut income taxes,
we also have to look at not raising sales taxes
on the poorest people on their most basic items of life.
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And this was something we're both agreeing on. We're like, guys,
before you do this, if you be careful, don't make
Louisiana have the largest, the highest sales tax in the
country when we're one of the three poorest states in
the United States. And High, very eloquently he is nodding
his head, defended this, and he said, with the impact
that high sales taxes have on his kids, on his people,
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and so as a state.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Which folks doesn't really matter, but poor people.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And we actually talked about something nobody talks about, which
is the fact that it's because we won won't talk
about property taxes being into the mix. We said, you know,
we both high and I want a flat tax. We
want a three percent income tax. We want this to
go down. We're not arguing against the principle of what
Jeff Landry's doing, but we said, take a warning before
you raise tax. Guess what happened towards the deal. What
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they're doubling the sales The halfpenny of the four point
four to five percent sales tax will be raised up
to a penny on pretty much all items. Wow, you know,
and so that's an extra billion dollars. It helps the
sums come together, It helps everything even out financially, not perfectly,
but pretty close. But at the same time, there are
a lot of poor people who aren't going to be
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able to feel the benefit of an income tax cut.
They didn't they didn't paying con tax. And this is
something it's the kind of thing that should be brought
up saying, look, if we're trying to make Louisiana more competitive,
that's a noble thing, but do you want to do
it on the backs of the people who are already
paying the highest income tax and the highest sales tax
in the country. And the answer is, that's exactly what
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we did. And here's the fact.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The only good thing I could say in this is
silver lining here is that if this really does improve
the economy and we're let you know, rising tide lifts ships,
people get better jobs, higher paying jobs, more jobs, that's
going to help lift the poor out of poverty. So
then that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Well, that would be a good thing, and I would
I very much endorse what you just said. Here's the thing.
I'm going to surprise some people about what I'm about
to say. Cutting the income tax from four point twenty
five to three, the personal income tax supposed to the
corporate income tax. I've thought cutting the corporate incompass from
seven to three point five, which may not even happen
in the final deal. Well, it's going to see what
the final deal looks like. It hasn't been finished when
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we went to press for our Sunday morning airing, but
I've thought cutting it in half. That's a real impact
that's going to affect the economy. I have question if
cutting from four point five four point twenty five to
three is going to have that much of an impact
in the economy. But it's not a bad thing. It's
a good thing. But here's what I realize. I'm going
to attack this proposal from the right. You know, it's
the one thing we didn't consider in this entire tax
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reform proposal, and it's out of fear from at tax
on the left. Setting a maximum amount of income tax
that you pay in Louisiana. There is nobody in Louisiana
who pays thirty thousand dollars a year in income tax
to the state of Louisiana. Now you're like, oh, well,
we have rich people in Louisiana. That can't be true. No,
because what happens is everybody but Gale Benson domiciles themselves
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in Texas, right, and so we don't have any billionaire.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I have a close cousin who's a billion time air
several times over, and he moved all his operation into
Houston years ago. Yeah, but he lives in Louisiana. He
loves Louisian He to get raped by the taxes.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And so here's what I've made the comment of you know, yeah,
is three better than four point twenty five for a billionaire, sure,
but is zero better than three? No, what I said
is there was a way out of this. Since nobody
in Louisiana pays more than thirty thousand dollars in income taxes.
That's what Gale Benson pays basically to the state of Louisiana,
and now that's to the federal government. Set the ceiling
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at thirty thousand dollars, just simply say we're not going
to charge more. That's the maximum you pay. Yes, it's
a handout to the rich, but that would actually allow
us to be competitive with Texas and Florida because we're saying, Okay,
you know you're going to pay a lot more in
property taxes for your house then you'll pay here. In theory,
it's actually not that big a difference, to be honest.
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But if you come in and you come in here,
we're going to put a ceiling on it so you
can domicile all your operations in Louisiana. And so when
I brought that up to several legislators, and I said,
why is that not part of the prosal Because the
nice thing about what I just said is it doesn't
cost us any money in the short term, long term
it might. But in the short term if you said,
at thirty thousand people have the same amount of money
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tomorrow as we had yesterday, and they all said, well,
you know, that would just make us look like we're
supporting the rich. And I'm like, you're cutting income taxes,
you're helping the rich, no matter how you look at it.
So why aren't you willing to really take this mom
that has no economic impact? And it has to do
with the fact because they're trying to get Democrats to
vote for the sales taxes and they don't want to
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complicate it. And so I'm giving you an example from
a conservative standpoint of how this proposal could have been better.
But as far as I know, is not part of
the final deal.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, Christopher, when you attack the rich, they leave. Yeah,
and then there goes some money, well, which we need.
We need their money to help build our economy, so
you don't it's stupid attacking.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
My point is, and we could have done a lot more. Yeah,
that wouldn't have cost us any money. Yeah yeah, and
we just didn't because that out of political fear. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Look, I give here A lot of people are like,
you should be a criticizing Jeff Landry. Look, I give
him credit on two points. I give him credit that
he's facing a real problem of tax reform, because we
really have we do lose people to the three states,
that most of our population loss into three states with
no income tax Texas, Florida, and Tennessee. And that there
has to be fundamental reform of our tax system if
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we're going to be competitive. But I'm I'm like, if
you're gonna if you're gonna put this huge weight on
the poorest Louisianians with a with a penny, another penny
in sales tax, on food, on everything, then at the
very least do something that really gets as competitive. And
guess what such ideas are outs. We're going to get
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the final design of the proposal in next week's program.
We're gonna have a couple of experts on and see
how the tax reform will impact your life. But that's
for after Thanksgiving. It will be our Christmas present entering
the Christmas season to you. But ladies and gentlemen, we're
going to take we.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Got to take a break.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
For examples, this, uh Reagan, before that, Kennedy, JFK. Reagan
and Trump had the great idea, taxes, taxes, and then
why did you get raised the tax revenues by cutting
income taxes? The money money the economy exploded and then
so there's a whole lot more money to tax. Then,
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so they came out ahead in all three case, all
three pros.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You forgot Bush.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I didn't know Bush did it?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
George W. Bush.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You didn't know he cut marginal income tax rates across
the board.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I miss that, christ And you see why we have
chrispher He's a pro. He's a political journalist pro. I'm not.
Here's I hate politics, folks. Christopher knows every margin taiale.
That's very good, Christopher, thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Income tax rates do affect marginal activities, but you have
to be willing at the same time to deal with
budgetary realities. Look, one of the things I'm complimenting Jeff
Landry on as much as I've criticized him for raising
the sales tax, is he's not doing what Bobby Jindall did.
Bobby Jendall did something that was well meaning but stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
That's when he ran the Hollywood out right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, no, well he did that. That was later in
his administration. Actually it was early in the administration, at
the very end did the event. In the beginning of
his administration, the Stelly Plan was being repealed. For those
that don't know, the Stelly Plan was this concept where
we raised our state income taxes by getting rid of
deductions and got rid of the sales taxes on food
and utilities for up to four sense of state sales
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tax and it raised income taxes. And we were running
a huge surplus after Hurricane Katrina because there's all this
money came into the state to rebuild the state Hurricanes
Katrina and Rita and Hurricane George's and let me go
through the whole bus. We had this huge sales tax boost.
We had all this construction, and Jindall wanted to cut taxes,
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but he wanted to recognize the fact that this was
a temporary amount of money. Anybody looked at it cut
and so he said, let's keep a couple of sales
taxes on. Let's cut reinduce the income taxes. And the
legends like, we're not putting sales taxes on. We want
to cut income taxes. We got a surplus right now,
we'll deal with it. What happened. It was the fact
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that we ended up going into massive deficits for the
next six years, which led to the film tax credit
being capped. Because he was in this weird situation that
he could not bring himself to raise sales taxes because
he wanted to run for president and so he didn't
bring it. Jeff Landry is raising sales taxes. He's not
making that mistake. I don't like the fact that it's
we're raising taxes on the poor. But he's coming out
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and saying, look, we can't cut income taxes without making
up the tax revenue somewhere else. He's being realistic about it.
And I give him credit that with a political will
that quite frankly, Bobby Jindal didn't have, because in the
end Bobby Jendall got destroyed politically because he wasn't willing
to make a difficult choice that Jeff Landry is. And
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there's a lot of people are here saying you're complimenting
Jeff Landry. I'm saying he's being realistic. Where Louisiana, we
don't print money, the federal treasury can make up this
differences when they cut income taxes, we can run deficits
you can't do that here, so, folks, we'll talk about
the elements of the deal in next week's show, but
as the deal comes in its final hours, we wanted
to give you an update of where we stand. We
still don't know what the final designs of the deal looking,
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but it's looking like, at least to some extent, we're
gonna he may actually do the same thing with film
tax credits that Bobby Gentle did of capping them, but
at least some of these will be back in place.
We'll give you the design of final deal, but when
we come back, we want to talk about we're going
into Thanksgiving. We want to talk a little bit of food,
but we want to talk about the debate on who
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And Thanksgiving holiday leads one to get together and have
a wonderful meal and a little bit of music. Well,
we're going to do it even bigger. It's the twentieth
anniversary of the Southern Food and Beverage Museum and in
cooperations with the New Orleans Opera, they're presenting an English
language opera called The Cookoff. We're going to talk about
it a bit in the show coming up. But folks,
if you want to have a fantastic meal curated by
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some of New Orleans's greatest chefs on Sunday the eighteenth,
a brunch and then have this incredible English language production
about who invented the mac and cheese and they're going
to make a good argument it was New Orleans. Folks,
check out go to New Orleans Opera dot org New
Orleans Opera dot org and find out more about the Cookoff,
this fantastic English language comic opera. If you've never been
an opera fan, but you love singing, you love English,
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and you love comedy in music, and you love great food,
this is the perfect combination. Go to New Orleans Opera
dot org and find out about the Cookoff New Orleans
Opera dot org.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
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hih McHenry.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
With Christopher Tidmore and ladies and gentlemen and this eat
and this Thanksgiving week. We think about meals, but what
we really need to think about is where meals come from,
and more importantly, where meals meet music. There's a fantastic
heritage partnership that is coming out.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Food and music, food and music and new or.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I can't imagine that combination. Why would that happen here? Well,
you know we're going to actually answer a fundamental question
or we're going to try through music who invented the
mac and Cheese? And a fantastic heritage partnership between the
Southern Food and Beverage Museum, the New Orleans Opera where
premiering an opera. The New Orleans premiere of The Cookoff
is going to happen on December eighth, Sunday with a
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brunch and the premiere of a brand new English language
opera that talks about the who created the mac and Cheese.
They're a fantastic format of America's most fictional cooking show.
And to introduce this incredible concept and the tickets that
are on sale right now, is the General and Artistic
director of the New Orleans Opera, Lela Palmer, who's had
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a little experience working between museums and opera. You've only
done it at let's go through the list, the London
Transport Museum of London, Isabella Stuart Gardner Museum. I can
keep going down the list, so you have a little
experience putting on operas and museums.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Hi, I'm Christopher.
It's one of my favorite things to do to connect
the present to the past and fun.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
What fun I love it.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, the thing with museums, obviously,
is that like all of these stories are sort of
hiding in plain sight. They're great, they're great things that
you if you can get in there and kind of
add music and add reasons that kind of activate things
for people, then they suddenly have a different relationship with
the art or with the piece, the object, whatever it is,
whether it's a coin, whether it's a Roman coin or
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a medieval tapestry, or a dish of macaroni and cheese.
Add music and everything gets sweeter. So that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, well, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So for those that don't know, the Southern Food and
Beverage Museum is celebrating it's twentieth out of Oversuy. If
you've never been, this is the ultimate opportunity to go.
It's an oc Halley near Martin Luther King formerly known
as Malcolmy, and it's in the old and it is
a historic market. It's actually in the old Dryad's Market.
But it's this wonderful thing that has not only exhibits
about Louisiana and all Southern cooking, but actually as the
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Museum of the American cocktail. And in the middle of
these incredible exhibits that spread from barbecue to popeyes, to
local food to the original bar from one of New
orleans most famous restaurants, is going to be a production
of an opera. There's going to be members of the
Louisiana Philharmonic and a whole audience and this is not
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your this is not your father's, your grandfather's kind of opera.
Talk about what the cook Off is and what it's structured,
and it's brand new.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
The thing that made me excited about this opera was
cooking shows. I love cooking show, my husband loves the
cooking show. We love to cook and obviously New Orleans
is the home of good food. And the show is
structured like a cooking show, and it's really discovering the
origins of this classic, classic dish and it's exploring all
the ways in which kind of history is reinterpreted through food,
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all the different stories about where the dish comes from
and who feels like they own it, and you kind
of discover all of that through the opera. And it's
funny and there's going to be delicious food. We're doing
an incredible brunch for the first performance in the morning
at twelve, so you'll kind of get your mac and cheese,
you'll get all your brunch comfort food, and then you'll
get to see it in action and understand what you're
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eating and where it comes from, which I just love.
That kind of multisensory experience. Is like absolutely my jam
and hopefully yours as well.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And this is a brand new opera. It's only had
one set of performances in Nashville, just a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, just and what we're happening. It's actually
making its New Orleans premiere with the original librettos, the
person who wrote it. It's being in attendance, and this
is an opportunity to sit in the most famous food
museum in the world, have brunch ladies and gentlemen and
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watch a comic opera in English. And that's kind of
for some people, opera is impenetrable because the language barrier.
No language barrier.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Here, no, no, no all.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
And one of the things when I read the libretto,
which is the text of the opera, is I read
all these these local references and I called up the
librettos and I was like, mank, you're talking about You're
talking about gumbo, you're talking about mac and cheese, You're
talking about all these kind of southern New Orleans things.
And he was like, well, my family is from here,
and I was like, oh, my goodness, we have to
bring this here. So I think people will really recogniz
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some local details in the text, not just about the food,
but kind of about other recipes and social context. And
it's really witty and fun, and I think the nicest
thing about it is it's a range of kind of
characters and ages of all the central characters, so there's
sort of someone for everyone to sympathize with, which I
really love. The music is by a Grammy nominated composer,
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Sean O. Pobolo, who was Grammy nominated last year for
Two Black Churches, and the librettist is a Pulitzer winner
for several of his operas, so you know, they're no
slouches as the creative team, and we have phenomenal singers
coming down, so it's going to be really really exciting
and folks.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Speaking of food and music, as we all know New
Orleans and South Louisiana, it's so famous for our food. Right.
In fact, you werealized we have one of the only
food items. They're only two food items sold in every
country in the world, Coca cola and Tabasca spice, along
with all of our yeah, all of our that's right,
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and we're caging crell cooking. So we're very famous for
all around the world. As I've traveled around the world,
it amazes me, even India how famous our food is
in India.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Which is and and right across from Islilah was mentioning.
Right across from where this is performance is the Tabasco
exhibit in the Southern Food Riverish Museum.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But this is but aside from that also music. We're
the home of basically of music for America. Opera started
here for America.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
The first city of opera seventeen, rock.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And roll start here, Jazz started here, the bamboola, which
of course from Western started he is now the music
main the main rhythm for most music today. It's absolutely
astounding how much music comes out of the city. So
you're going to go something for music and food, folks,
don't miss it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
December eighth, ladies and gentlemen. There are a limited number
of tickets though for this brunch performance that you have
brunch at the Southern food and beverage medium prepared by
their special chefs in their in their institute. So these
are this is an incredible meal. This is not your
father's rubber chicken. This is unbelievable food. And then the
performance right after of the cookoff. But they're only limited
number of tickets available, less than two hundred and so
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if you don't buy it now, basically there's no last
minute buying tickets. They are available at New Orleans Opera
dot org. And I say in the Shamus plug, really,
this is a kind of experience for opera and food
that you don't find anywhere else. And can you talk
about that?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah, you know, I'm I'm really interested in I think
I've talked about this about how we bring together full
experiences for people, And for me, it's a case of
drawing all of these pieces together. So you know, we're
used to going to the opera, you know, and we
park and we maybe got a glass of champagne and
then we go watch this sort of big opera with
a red curtain. And for me, I'm really interested in
an offering experiences like this that are unusual, that combine
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these unique elements, whether it's putting together something with a
culinary school, with a museum, with musicians, with live artists,
and that's what people can expect to see from the
opera in future. Is these really unique events. Obviously, we
can't make them as accessible to everybody as we would
like to, because to have that personal touch, to be
able to taste that plate of food and listen to
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that music at the same time, it's intimate, it's personal,
it's boutique. So there are there are a much smaller
number of tickets, but hopefully the opportunity to have this
incredibly rich experience makes that really worth well.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Thank you it folks. Food statisfies the body, and music
satisfies the soul.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Ladies and gentlemen. Food the premiere of The Cookoff at
the Southern Food and Beverage Museum one day only, December eighth,
Brunch plus a performance. You can get tickets at New
Orleans Opera dot org. New Orleans Opera dot Org and
Lilah Palmer. Thank you for joining Hi mc kenry and
Christopher Timheran the Founder show and this making this wonderful
premiere of this English language opera, The Cookoff.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Thank you so much all. Thank you thanks lady here
Lilah with a lovely English acts.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Folks, check it out. But By and I will be
there on December eighth at the cookoff. And you know,
I'm thinking a lot about food this week high because
of Thanksgiving. You know right now, you know some people
don't like Thanksgiving food. You gotta understand. Thanksgiving food is
my favorite food in the world. I love stuffing. You know,
my wife hates it. So if anybody doesn't knows, Barkley Rafferty,
she thinks stuffing is terrible. And I live and die
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by stuffing. I like having. I love it too, and
so I.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Won't die it on that day.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You don't have a heart healthy die for a year
and a half. Folks. You can dive hard, way up
lost oversea. But on this Thanksgiving, on breaking my die, you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Got it, you get yet it, you get it, you.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Get expended bashidly. I will eat.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
You know. One of the things we do here in
New Orleans, this is something I really enjoy and Thanksgiving
is that a lot of people. There's a lot of
nonprofits that raise money this way. What they do is
they fry your turkey.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
If you see this.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You drive up, you bring your turkeys. Yeah, you bring that.
There's several different arounds Google.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
You've never done it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
On Thanksgiving if you've never died. It takes It's fantastic.
It takes like two minutes. You have an uncooked turkey,
They fry it and it's the best turkey you ever take.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You can't do it yourself. It takes a lot of
you know, oil and all that. Just buy them from
the grocery store. They sell them all around, you.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Know what I mean. It's and there's there's several grocery
stores around that actually do your whole Thanksgiving dinner, several
people that do for those in our But one thing
that I'm very curious about so that I don't associate.
Everybody associates football with Thanksgiving, and that makes sense watching
on television. But what's fascinating is the number of people
who've been after me my family, especially like we're going
to a two lane game, aren't you. So I got
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attacked by this by four different things. My villary, my uncle,
and my cousins. They're coming. The rafferty is Everybody's like
after dinner, we're going to the two lane game. And
it kind of and for me who grew up at
a time when well, the word two lane was synonymous
with losing, it's.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It was kind of like that, oh, we're getting two lanes.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Amazed TWU Lanes become a football school.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, and the interesting Tu Lane. I'm an LS fan,
but yeah, I'm so glad to see my home team finally.
They used to be a great team. They were national
champions and they're coming back Christopher.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
And so what they're doing. But this is the power
of Tu Lane Stadium. Nobody really wanted to go and
this is something that's nobody you know, well, but have
you been. You've been to the news Zelman Stadium. It's
actually really a fantastic experience. It's not terribly expensive experience.
And they're doing this experiment of this game on Thanksgiving,
which usually for college would be a very bad idea
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because everybody's gone home. Tu Lane is a campus where
people come from all over the country. People are staying
in town just to go to this game. Wow, it
is a student the whole thing it is. I've got
to go through it. I'm sure I'm going to be
crucified for not breaking down the days, but it's gonna
be a big game, And the fact is it's kind
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of one of those associations with football that we have.
You know, I can remember years the Saints played on
Thanksgiving or something, but not like this. And so we're
going to see if Tulane can kind of go in.
And then we get into the Christmas season. It's already here,
and I mean it's already kind of moving. But I
don't know Thanksgiving. As I think of Thanksgiving traditions, mine
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are always the favorite. But the one that is peculiarly
in New Orleans is the mac and cheese, like we
just said for it, but it's also the gumbo, the
Thanksgiving gumbo. I don't know about you, but that's that's always, yeah,
a major. You can't have a Thanksgiving dinner. It's a
very without New Orleans. One thing I like to say
is that we think of Thanksgiving as a New England holiday,
but it is something that actually happened multiple times, that
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happened here in Louisiana. Of having a feast of Thanksgiving
with the Indians after the nashs War, It's actually happened
in Saint Petersburg, Florida, almost one hundred years before it
happened before. Yeah, before Plymouth, but it happened, James, but
it happened. But Jamestown had a Thanksgiving dinner before Plymouth
that which is what we went for. So in other words,
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the Spanish where actually had the first Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So the first Thanksgiving in America was not Saint Petersburg, Florida,
of the original thirteen colonies, it was Jamestown. But for
the whole United States today, it was a Spanish colling
it was.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
It was Saint Petersburg, Florida. It was one of the
first settlers.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
It went there one way out west to.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Not that until later. So I mean, if we're talking
about the original so Thanksgiving, isn't we think of Thanksgiving
as this singular New England holiday that happened with the
moono Pai Indians. It's actually something this idea of sitting down,
breaking bread, having a thesist Thanksgiving. And this is the
thing I wanted to think of the message before Hi
goes into a spiritual message after the break to everyone.
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You know, we've had an election that is incredibly divisive,
and yeah, fifty basically the country is divided.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Fifty talk about football, talk about the food, talk about music,
don't talk politics.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Well, here's here's what I'd say, talk it, don't go
there when you sit down at dinner with it. It's
it's when it's not when you're ignoring politics. It's more precisely,
remember everything else you love about a person, because you
know hein I spend all of our you know, every
week talking about politics on the show. But the fact
of the matter is politics, while important, is only a
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small portion of our lives. Most of what we encounter,
we actually we have more things that unify us than
divide us. And in a society where everything moves so
fast and families really don't get together, Thanksgiving is almost
the only holiday left, even Christmas isn't where everybody sits
around a table or a single set of tables and
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looks at each other and shares a meal, which, after all,
I mean, it's your purview, pastor to get religious, but
what is after all, the fundamental Christian form of worship.
It's a meal. It's the last supper. I mean, the
Mass is the sharing of bread.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Jesus spot everyone was done around a dinner table, and.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's it's something that is fundamentally that the ultimate Thanksgiving
is sharing, not just our faith but one another over
a meal, and it's it's something really sacred. And I
also will end with this, Benjamin, we are the founder show.
Benjamin Franklin is right. The national bird should not have
been the eagle. The eagle is I've spent a lot
of time called they steal. They steal, They steal the
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meat from other forms of birds.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Who grain nice clean, whole food grain.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I'm sorry, bee, a turkey is a noble bird. Actually
should have.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
The two smartest birds as far as hunting goes are
the turkey and the goose, the wild goose. They are
by far the hardest birds to hunt. They're smart. Therefore
are they smart? So he picked a good bird the turn.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
They should have been the national symbol. I mean, and
I'm sorry you turkeys.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
All the ones who have turkeys, they know turkeys in
the Eastern hemisphere.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
No, no, no, they don't. Not an American bird and
they do now actually you know. But but the fact
of the.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Matter is found all around the world, all around the world.
And I'll still love the ball eagles. Well, I mean,
that's it's a noble bird.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
It is not a normal it's fared very far. Here's
I found this an eagle. I have to actually learned this.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
In the last and the last high places.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
He can actually see almost a mile accurately.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I know that. And another thing about I love about eagles.
When they get old, they about ready to die. They
have a process they go through where they hit their
feet in their beaks and there they beat themselves up
to death and that some kind of way revives them
and they live now a few more extra years. So
there will go. They don't give up. That's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And then like Matt Gates, they made for life. So
that will close up. No politics.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
And by the way, for the Tulane game, it's going
to be Tulane against the Memphis Tigers. Quite a game
it'll be.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
It'll be a Delta slam down. And folks, remember December.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Fighting over the birthplace of rock and roll, Memphis and
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
That's very appropriate. Remember December eighth, the Cookoff, folks. It's
going to be an incredible experience and incredible meal as well,
a brunch done by the special chefs at the Food
and Beverage Museum that run the Institute, and the performance
of the Cookoff. It's December eighth at noon, a arrival
at eleven thirty. You can get your tickets at New
Orleans Opera dot org New Orleans Opera Orgy, but they're
going fast. Don't wait. If you want to attend this
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fantastic brunch and this opera, go right now to New
Orleans Opera dot org and check it out. And we'll
be back with the patriotic moment on the special Thanksgiving
edition of the I on A show right after that.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
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Speaker 3 (43:32):
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Speaker 2 (44:03):
Well, folks were back and you are listening to the
Founders Show, and this is chaplain, Hig McHenry. It's now
time for us to go into our chaplain. Bye by
patriotic moment, which just take a brief moment to remind
you of the biblical foundations of our country, our Judeo
Christian jurisprudence, and today, of all things, I want to
talk about the founding and the beginning of Thanksgiving in America.
It all started at Jamestown where in their first year
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they met during the harvest time. It's always in the
harvest time when all the goodies are brought in and
people want to be thankful to God for what we have.
This is an old European tradition. It's a Biblical tradition.
It's in the Word of God for the feast days
in the Bible. So it's something deeply ingrained in our culture.
It's not like we created it. But one thing that's
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unusual and interesting about Thanksgiving in America is Thanksgiving is
a legal holiday. It is a legal religious holiday, which
is absolutely amazing created in America as a religious holidays.
Thank God for all our many blessings. Well, the first
one was Jamestown in sixteen oh seven and followed by
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the Pilgrims in sixteen twenty one. But before that there
was a second one. The Pilgrims were the third one.
The second one was a Berkeley College, the Berkeley Settlement
just north of Jamestown about ten years after Jamestown, and
where a group of Pilgrims, if you will, dissenters. The
same type of people. The Pilgrims were coming out of
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England looking for security and their religious beliefs and whatnot.
They came fleeing to the New World and they built
a beautiful settlement in Berkeley, and they had a Thanksgiving.
But you know how they did their thanksgiving Rather than feasting,
they fasted and prayed and thank God. And that kind
of became a tradition in America where for the first
hundred years of this country under the Constitution before also
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but I'm just conning from the beginning of the Constitution,
for the first hundred years and over first one hundred
and twenty years, America on the national, state and local level,
racked up over five thousand days that our political leaders
called us to take the whole day off and pray.
And they would always add fasting. They would pray and fast.
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That's astounding. When they had the Boston Tea Party and
all that came from that, the blockad and whatnot, Thomas
Jefferson put it out across the country to pray and
fast for a whole day for the Bostonians. There are many,
so many stories like this people. So this idea of
thanking God and seeking God in prayer and fasting is
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a very in depth and ingrained tradition in America. And
now it is even a law because it is a
legal holiday to thank God. You have to thank God.
If you want to thank odin you can thank him.
You can think anybody you want to. With freedom religion
in America, right, you can thank Allah whatever you want
to do. But you know, in America, because we are
a Biblically founded for a Christian based country, we thank
God Almighty of the Bible. And it's an absolutely amazing
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tradition to show you how powerful the prayers of our
finding fathers were. That it's tied into thanks And remember
when the Pilgrims met, they didn't just eat, they did,
but they also prayed thanking God for what they had.
And the Pilgrims were great prayer warriors. All of our
early settlers were. And so here's a great story about
prayer in America. And I'm going to actually save this
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for our testimony time, so it's going to be coming up.
But folks, you know, we can talk about all this
stuff about how good God is and thanking God, but
you know the greatest thing we have to thank God
for is what heaven and our eternal life if we
have it. And so now I'm going to tell you
how you can get it if you don't have it.
As we now go into our chaplain by by a
gospel moment. You know, the Bible says God loves you
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with an everlasting love. Folks, he loved you so much
he realized you would never make it on your own,
so he had to do it for you. So he
came and took care of our problem for us. God
the Son became a man, that's the Lord Jesus Christ.
We'll be celebrating that in just a few weeks after
Thanksgiving for Christmas, the incarnation of Deity. So God became
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a man. He did that because he knew we would
never be able to fix our problems and never be
able to save ourselves. He did it to come save
us for us. He did that when he died on
the cross, for all of our sins. Of Scripture sysm.
The day you're born to the day you die, you
tiniest to your greatest sins, all went on Jesus. The
Bible says he that knew nos sin, that's Jesus was
made sin. Think of that. Think of it a level
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of them, not of love God. The deaths of love
God had for a perfect God to be turned into
the grossest, most detestable, ugliest thing ever. Sin and the
sins of the whole world went on him, went in him,
and he was turned into sin. If that didn't love,
I don't know what is He did all that? The
Scriptur says, he that knew no sin was made sin
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that you me, all of us are dirty roten soelves
that we might be made turned into the righteousness of
God Christ. So, folks, he takes all our bed to
give us all his good. That's astounding. Who can do that?
Only God? That's the kind of love God has. That's
the kind of love God has. If you're wondering about
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God's love One of the one way to think about
it is the scripture says, God is love. Think of that, folks.
He doesn't just love you. He is the love. Now,
if you've ever seen love, whom have you seen? Who
have you seen? You have seen God Allmighty. So everybody's
seen love. We know that. It's been proven many, many times,
many ways. Even those who say there's no thing is
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love and whatever. Sooner or later you can get it
out of him. Yes, they acknowledge he's such a thing
as love. Maybe they didn't have much of it, but
they know it's there. Folks. God is that love. So
if you've seen love, that means you've even seen God.
I mean, no one can say I never saw God. Folks.
God really loves you. He died for all of your sins.
Then he was buried to prove he was dead, because
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He really was dead. And then he rose from the
dead to win for you his the precious free gift
of resurrection, everlasting life. And that simple little story is
the Gospel. The scripture says. The Gospel is the power
of God into salvation to whosoever believeth the Gospel, the
scripture says, for the clarity of the gospel that Christ
God for all of our sins, courting scripture, was buried
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and rose from the dead. According to the scripture, that's
the gospel. It's plain and simple, the gospel. How do
you get it? Believe? The scripture says, believe on the
Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. Our belief
is twofold. The first part of our belief is to
believe we cannot save ourselves. That's called repentance. Jesus kept
saying repent and believe repent and believe repentance is very important.
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Script says, Godly sorrow worketh repentance unto salvation. So, folks,
you got to repent, and that just means you quick
trusting in yourself, believe you really are that big of
a loser, believe that you really are hopeless and helps
without God destined to burning hell. And the split second
you did that, you just repented. And I don't know
once the person does that, I don't know how anybody else,
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anybody at that point can avoid leaving that Jesus did
do it for him, that he did die for their
sins and rose to the dead. Because God moves on
you like white on right. So the Holy Spirit gets
ahold of you, and he is so strong getting that
message across to your heart. Were you really will believe
with the faith of a little child, that Jesus really
did die for all your sins, was buried and rose
to the dead. Well, folks, I hope you've done that.
If you've never done that before, do it now. Don't
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wait till it's too late, Like the scripture says, now,
today is a day of salvation. Back to a testimony time.
This about George Washington, and during the Christmas Thanksgiving period
they would value for it our forces they had just
about We had almost nothing left. By the end of
the winter. It was believed we might only have five
hundred people left. We were dying so quickly. Our army
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was dying so quickly. We didn't have a chance. In
Valley Forge, it was over with. Well, the famous rich
man rode past Valley Forge one morning and when he
got home he told his wife, Honey, packed the bags,
we're going home, And she said, what why are we leaving.
We're the richest founding in the colonies. We've won the war.
He says, no, you do't understand. We're going to lose
the war. The reason she said that our troops are
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comfortably quartered thirty thousand in Philadelphia. They had taken our capital,
and now they were there enjoying all the merriments of
Christmas time when we were starving at Valley Forge. She said,
it's done the din of disease, frostbite, everything. And she
was right. But you know what, he was really right.
He was the one that was correct. He said, you
don't understand, my dear. I rode past the American camp
and I heard their commander, General George Washington praying, anyone
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that prays like that will win. He was right, wasn'ey Christopher?
What an amazing story, folks. Listen, we live in a
great country. God has blessed his country, and some are saying,
let's make America great again. Great, But you know what
made America great to begin with. I'll tell you what did.
God and our faith in God. That's really the foundation
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of what made America great. So, folks, that's what we
really need to do. We need to go back to God,
and if we will have revival in America, we're going
to be great again. But it's going to take that, folks.
I don't care all the great things we can do
politically and whatnot. It's going to take the everyday average
American turning back to God. We can do it, folks,
You can do it. It starts on an individual level.
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So if you've never trusted Christ before, do it right now.
Believe that you can't save yourself, So then you're free
to believe that and put faith alone and Christ alone,
that He did die for all your sins and was
buried in rosing the dead. So thank you so very much.
It's not time for us to go. As we close
with a mont Saint Martin singing a Creole goodbye and
God bless all out there?
Speaker 7 (53:24):
Does this have to be the end of the night?
Speaker 2 (53:29):
You know? I love you.
Speaker 7 (53:31):
In the pam Land, I can see across the million
stars when I look, and we can posey it's the sun.
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I suppose you couldn't call it Christ.