Impact of Surge In Black Voters In May Election & Why We Call It "The Founders Show"

Hy and Christopher take on several topics, including what it means to be a “Madisonian” and how that influences the name “The Founders Show”.

Most of the conversation of today’s centers on how the Surge in the Black Votes Upset Expectations in the May 16 Election. As Christopher writes in The Louisiana Weekly:

Nick Albares enjoyed the endorsement of John Bel Edwards as well as every major Democratic Party organization and prominent figure. He had the best funded political campaign for the Democratic nomination for US Senate. His ads and presence populated social media with a ubiquitous presence, and yet he ended up in a very narrow third place finish to two less-funded, relatively unknown African-American rival candidates.The surge in opposition to the five proposed LA constitutional amendments—in order to “send a message“ to Governor Jeff Landry—ended up serving as a rising tide that lifted Jamie Davis almost into a first primary victory with 47 percent of the vote, and even propelled Gary Crockett, a relatively low-financed Black New Orleans-based candidate, into second place over Albares.

Ostensible evidence seems to suggest that African-American anger towards the governor, possibly towards elimination of the second Black congressional district, triggered the tide of Democratic turnout which rivaled any Republican turnout.  According to pollster John Couvillon, Caucasian voters constituted 63 percent of the primary electorate versus 34 percent for African-American voters, who make up only 31.8 percent of registered electorate. Black voters typically go to the polls at proportionally lower rates than White voters. For example, the Black voter share in 2023 was 25 percent, Couvillon noted in post election comments.  Case in point, in the May 16 closed Democratic US senatorial primary, 344751 voters cast a ballot despite only spending 1.5 percent as much money as was expended amongst the three Republican candidates—who earned just a total of 401123 votes.  In contrast with the total 745,874 votes for both parties in the US Senate contest, the proposed LA constitutional amendments actually earned more votes than the races at the top of the ballot, an unprecedented development compared to previous elections. 799402 voted for Amendment 2 (St George School System) and 811200 voted for Amendment 3 (the teacher pay raise-debt swap).  All five amendments were defeated with between 58 percent and 77 percent of the vote.
 
Another way of looking at this disparity came from the widely expected idea that Caucasian judicial candidates in Orleans Parish would have an advantage in the May 16, 2026 elections because of an expected surge in GOP turnout in conservative Uptown and Lakeview, versus moribund Democratic turnout in the rest of the city.  Instead, far less funded contender John T. Fuller for (the soon to be abolished in seven months) Criminal District Court, Section J, beat Andre Gaudin, Jr. 65-35, despite the latter having received most of the political endorsements.   Even more surprising was the loss of Richard Perique, who ran a textbook campaign with almost ubiquitous political support and had served as an ad hoc Judge on the Civil District Court.  He lost the Division M seat to fellow Democrat Stephanie Bridges by just 639 votes out of 78,952 votes cast. Nevertheless, in both cases, a Caucasian challenger did fall to an African-American contender who was not expected to even come close to winning, such was the surge in African-American votes in the city— and throughout the state.  Black voters made all the difference for Black candidates, just as they did in the upticket contests and for the constitutional amendments.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Battles, the politicians, the press, the digitators and magicians whous
to see the money they didn't there's nothing to fill
the holes? Well, then are filling their pockets bid holes.
The politicians bouncing down the road. Every body's wish for

(00:23):
no moment. Corruption and its function, It's gonna take me,
divide intervention.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
A surge in angry African Americans and Democrats not only
kills the constitutional amendments, but almost up pushes the entire
Louisiana elections. We're going to talk about that as well
as the primaries. Trump triumphan as Massey went down, as
did Cassidy, and the implications with the endorsement of Ken

(00:53):
Paxton in the Texas primary of what that could mean
for the party in the November elections. We're going to
talk about that, the Convention Center hotel, the end of
the legislative session, and what's going to happen with their
teacher pay, and a variety of other topics on this
edition of The Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
And God bless you all out there. You are now
listening to the Founders Show. The voice of the Founding Fathers,
your Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
on top of that old Liberty Cypress tree Drapten Spanish

(01:33):
moss way out on the Eagles Branch is none other.
Then you've s been Gary Baba other Republic Chaplain, Hi
McHenry who.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
With Christopher Tidmorey roving reporter, resident radical moderate and associate
editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper Louisiana Weekly dot net
and Hi, there have been the unofficial results out of
the Secretary of State's office, and everybody is heard by
now that all the constitutional amendments failed, and failed rather overwhelmingly.
The one was seventy seven percent. The fourth one on

(02:03):
advalorum taxes, which would just simply give parishes the right
to decide not to charge a tax, that failed by
sixty six percent. The others were seventy six and sixty four.
Even the teacher pay Ray's amendment went down fifty you know,
fifty eight percent to forty two percent overwhelmingly. And so
all of this has happened. But that's not the statistic

(02:26):
that I find interesting. Here's statistic I found interesting in
an election where the only thing at the top of
the ballot statewide that was interesting was a Republican closed
primary where only Republicans, which are going to be almost
overwhelmingly white, could vote, along with some no party people.
Those are Louisiana's answers to independence. There were almost as

(02:47):
many people that voted in the Democratic senatorial primary as
the Republican primary. The amount of money that was spent
on the Democratic primary, high was one point five percent
of the amount spent on the Republican primary, to give
you a disportion, And yet three hundred and forty four thousand,
seven hundred and fifty one Democrats voted in the Democratic

(03:10):
primary and independence compared to four hundred and one, one
hundred and twenty three in the Republican primary. Now why
is that important? Well, to me, the most interesting thing
about all of that is the average vote on the
constitucial amendments was about eight hundred and ten thousand votes.
If you do basic math, you've just figured out there

(03:30):
were seven hundred and forty six thousand votes on the
competitive senatorial elections and over eight hundred thousand on the
constitutional amendments. That means some people came in just to
vote against Jeff Landry and the constitutional amendments, and disproportionately.
I can surmise based on the data that the large
percentage of those that came in to vote against the
constitucial amendments and therefore against Jeff Landry were black. And

(03:53):
here's how I know it.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
And you're shooting themselves in the foot because all those
amendments were going to help them.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, the argument about the teacher the argument the teacher
Amendment was by getting rid of the other programs that
it was, the trust Funds for Excellence and so on
and so forth, you were taking money out of the
classrooms in order to fund teacher pay. That's one of
the reasons the Louisiana Federation of Teachers opposed it. But
there is questions as to what happens now, whether teachers
will keep the two thousand dollars a year stipends the

(04:19):
legislatures authorized for the last couple of years right now.
The reason why I thought it was unlikely in the
last show that they wouldn't lose it is because parishes
seem to be in a position in a lot of
cases to replace that money. They were going to offer
other teacher pays. But I've got to say something. Looking
at these stats, the thing that fascinated me the most
was the only candidate who had any television in the

(04:40):
Democratic primary, any position, was a guy by the name
of Nick Albaretz. Nick Albaretz is a former congressional staffer.
He was a staffer for John Bell Edwards. He was
running with the open endorsement of John Bell Edwards, doing
commercials for him. He's a white candidate. He is as
crispy as a potato chip as you'd expect as a candidate,
perfect background, perfect family. He came in a very close third,

(05:03):
not just to Jimmy Davis, an African American farmer from
North Louisiana who's running as sort of a prairie populist leftist,
who got forty seven percent of the vote, but he
actually lost to a New Orleans advocate by the name
of Gary Crockett, who had virtually no money, a few
street signs, but almost nothing, and he lost nine seven
hundred and sixty four votes to four hundred and eighty votes,

(05:24):
basically just under three hundred votes out of one hundred
and eighty thousand casts and Yet this is the guy
who actually was spending money in the primary that told
me that African Amarians came in and voted for black candidates,
and they blowed and they voted for black candidates, and
they were why did they come to the polls? It
wasn't because they were. There were two judge ship races

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in New Orleans, by the way, overwhelmingly the white candidates,
and those races lost Richard Perik, who was the overwhelming favorite,
and Godan versus Fuller. And as it was, because there
was such antipathy for the governor unst the black electorate
for the loss of the African American congressional seat, they
came in to shoot down every one of the constitutional moments.

(06:06):
I mean a couple of these constitutional moments were pretty innocuous.
The city of Saint George being able to form its
own school district, the idea of parishes being able to say, okay,
we won't charge you attacks because right now they're forced
to charge attacks that where the profits only go to
the parish, and the forty one states that don't have
an inventory tax. It had nothing to do with the

(06:27):
merits of the constitcial amendments. It was Jeff Landry wants this,
so it's going to be voted down. And you know
I should have. I warned everybody the getting rid of
this black majority district, that clail Fields's district, and even
keeping one district was going to cause a seismic impact
in the black vote. And let me give you be
very precise. If the black vote in Louisiana shows up

(06:50):
Black voters overwhelmingly or Democrats ninety six percent, those that
were trending Republicans very clearly in this election trended back
to the Democrats. If black voters show up at the
levels of turnout that they do in late elections where
they're motivated, and they were motivated on the level of
the David Douke election in this particular election, the same percentages.

(07:14):
What it means is that a Democrat can win in Louisiana.
Whether this will happen in the fall, I have no idea.
Julia Letlow and John Fleming are going to a runoff.
You're going to have the congressional races in the fall
that will be open primary races, not closed primary races.
They're going to actually have the primaries on November and
the runoffs. If needed for any of those races in

(07:35):
December because they delay the election and redrew to the districts.
But ultimately Black voters and Louisiana are pissed off. And
when one third of your electorate is pissed off and
they turn out and vote, and whites turn out moderately
to low turnout, which is what they did in this election,
Louisiana is not that much of a strategically GOP state.

(07:57):
Not when turnout dynamics are like that, a Democrat could
win this election. Now I think that's unlikely that Jimmy
Davis is going to be the next Democratic Senator from Louisiana.
But I point out nobody really thought that the African
American senator from Georgia would win when he did. And
here's another thing, and we transition in this. I want
to bring up this the endorsement of Ken Paxton in

(08:19):
Texas over John Corwyn Goarren's a very popular figure across
the broader the electorate. Paxton is very popular amongst the
MAGA vote, but he repels African American and Hispanic voters,
and he also has a personal ethics problem. He had
a very messy divorce where adultery was a major figure.
He also had. He was impeached by the Texas Legislature,

(08:42):
a Republican legislature, for financial dealings that were improper. Trump
endorsed him, in fairness to Donald Trump, and you don't
hear me say those comments very often. Ken Paxton was
probably on course to win the primary anyway, having said
that if Trump had endorsed John Corwin, the poll's prettymum
said Korn might be able to pull it off in

(09:02):
a general election. Ken Paxton will now because he's going
to win them with Trump's endorsement. We prove that from
the twenty one different primaries that Trump triumphed in over
the last weekend, Cassidy only being one of, the Massy.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Being actually this past week also.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Massy on Tuesday night being another one. If he goes,
he's going to be facing the most existential danger that
any Republican has faced in Texas since Lloyd Benson or
Ann Richards. His name is James Tallerico. James Tallerico. I
know you're rolling your eyes. He's a pastor.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
He's young, he's a new age Satanic past That's not fair.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I've watched him preaching churches all over up and down
video of Texas. He comes off, he's moderate, he comes
off he is a danger for someone like Paxton, who
you Republicans look a guy like you who is a
man of integrity, who has dedicated his life. This guy
is an adulterer. And I don't mean like he messed

(10:07):
up slightly. I mean he had the messiest divorce with
his wife talking about us and.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We've heard all that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, you just call one candidate satanic and it comes
out okay, and I'll get you.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'm giving you this.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
My point being that here in Louisiana, with a heavy
African American turnout in this election, that should be a
warning sign for Republicans across the South, because you remember,
Texas had a redistricting similar to Louisiana, only bigger, five
different African American seats that were lost. With this coming in,
Black voters are angry. In Louisiana, they're third of the vote.

(10:40):
In Texas they're twenty five percent of the vote. But
guess what, Hispanics are almost a quarter of the vote.
Whites are no longer the majority or art guess what
happens in election where you don't get minority votes Republicans.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Lose, Okay, we of course, for there are a lot
of Hispanics. I don't know what the numbers are, but
huge numbers of his banks who were very maga. And
by the way, Paxton was a super maga guy. If
Trump hadn't endorsed him, he'd still gotten the MAGA vote.
And I know he has some messy, you know, mistake
things of his past. Yeah, some, not hundreds, but some,

(11:15):
and which is bad. I don't say that's good. I'm
sorry for that. But then again, has a man found redemption?
Is he on the straight and arrow?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Has he come clean?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I hope happened, even though his wife went into court
and she's publicly campaigning for his opponent.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, well, Christopher, that's what happens in messy divorces. Both
sides can say some pretty terrible things with very little
truth to it. So I don't know, you know, hell
hath no fury like a woman scorned. You know, we
we're not hearing his side of the story. And and
so let's just say that was in the past, and
hopefully he's you heard what I said, He's overcome it.

(11:53):
Now we'll find out, all right, But back to why
I'm saying this other guy, Taller Rico is is a
He preaches a literally now, I'm not giving you a
satanic message. He preaches new Agism that's basically paganism. He
preaches that from the sermon from the pulpit. In his sermons,

(12:13):
he also preaches, I guess, almost every known form of
sexual perversion you can think of, and colors it as
lovely and wonderful and godly. No, this man has perverted
the Bible so baily, I can't believe anybody would even
think of him as being a preacher Christopher. I've seen
the examples. I've heard them. He's saying that things like, well,

(12:34):
Jesus was into homosexuality because he loved everybody, things like that.
He's saying all kinds of weird, crazy stuff like that.
I promise he is. Uh, we look it up. We
don't even I don't even know in this show. We
don't even have time to tell you all the things
he said. But just but check it out, folks. It's
you can find it on the internet dot com.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Which is okay that the comment was that he said God,
not Jesus, God the Father is he said God is
neither male nor female. The comment is that God is
beyond gender because he's he's an omnipotent super being. And
that's not that's standard theology.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
High, No, it's not, Christopher. It is not because according
to the Bible, God is male and female. He's both,
He's not neither. He's supreme being. Okay, great, he is
a supreme being. Now look, we don't I'm sorry, we
don't have time to go into theological debate on this,
but just check it out and watch Snopes. Snope says
a history of being far to the left, very controlled,

(13:34):
and it's not very objective, so watch Snopes. But there
are other ways of checking it out. Anyway, Talla Rica
is a fake preacher. I'm sorry. I've seen and heard
enough of what he says, and he is not He's
not true to the Bible. I'm not saying he's not
a religious leader. Of course he is, but he's not
true to the Bible. That's his problem and why I

(13:56):
don't trust him. So anyway, okay, next, Christopher's trust.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
L Three sets of poles put Paxton Taalerico in a
statistical dead heat at forty seven to forty six, respectively.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
This is for.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Republicans in Texas, in GOP Texas catastrophic and a lot
of this is pretty much regardless. And this is where
you make a statement of who's at the top of
the ticket they're going to vote against Republicans. Trump had
made a great inroads with black men twenty one percent
of the black vote. Getting rid of these districts in

(14:29):
the pursuit of, you know, trying to pick up seven
or eight seats, which he looks like he's gonna succeed
to do, has now pissed off the black community and
is going to hurt over all the tops of the
tickets in Southern states.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
These community, these districts were based on racism, Black racism,
and that's why they had to be removed. And not
only that, Please keep remembering these folks. The Democrats have
been doing this for decades. They were way ahead of us.
They had redistricts, so many areas that areas that were
like fifty to fifty, but yet for the congressman, it
was one hundred percent for Democrats because they had really

(15:04):
rigged the areas to where you couldn't get it's impossible
to get a Republican majority if it had just been
you know, United areas all within a geographic area, they
would have had plenty of Republicans there over the years,
but they've all been wiped out. It's like seven or
eight states where there's almost no Republican congressman because of

(15:26):
this jerrymandering. And so finally the Republicans are catching up
with them. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. We need
to even the score. If they're going to do it
to us, we need to do it back to them.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I admitted that both sides have engaged in egregious jerry mandery. Sure, yeah,
of course.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Look when we come back, I'm gonna ask our problems.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
We came in so late to the game. Think of
all those years that they were winning all those votes
and cutting us out. We should have jumped into it
right when they did it.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
When there were states, by the way, that actually did
not egregiously jerrymander. California because of Arnold Schwarzenegger's when he
was the Republican governor of California, actually had a pretty
fairst thing. They responded to Texas coming in and doing it. So,
I mean, don't make a universal standard.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
My point. I've said seven or eight you know, heavy
red blue areas are the ones who Jerry mannered and
cut out all the Democrats, I mean almost all the Republicans,
all right, love California was not one of those, but
they're trying to be that now.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Well, believe it or not, the impossible could happen, and
a Republican might win Los Angeles. Latest polls for Spencer Pratt,
the Republican who used to be ablender the reality show
The Hills. Because of these AI ads, which are the
most brilliant ads I've ever seen, he could actually he's
actually statistically tied with Karen Bass, the Democratic mayor, so
that you might actually see something unusual in California by

(16:45):
them going over to the other side, a counter reaction.
So you know, nothing, nothing in politics is static. But
we got to come back.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I want you to remember, a couple of weeks ago
on this show, you point out that Trump was becoming
a very powerful kingmaker, let's say, and it was Indiana
was the states you were referring to, because of the
way they voted the guys he's supported one and now
look with twenty one, this guy's becoming maybe the greatest
king maker in the history of America. I mean, if
if he says vote for this guy, people voting for him,

(17:15):
it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I remember I said that, and I brought it up,
and I still say that great, and I still believe that.
Here's what I'm saying, though, is that some of the
candidates that he's choosing to do this now, look the
Cassidy one. In fairness to Trump, Cassidy voted for his conviction.
You might think what Trump did was but a Republican
is likely to win in Louisiana regardless of who Trump

(17:39):
came in in Texas. My point about this was by
doing this, see it clear.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But let's just see how this works out, because what
the more and more dartage coming out on this Talla
Rica guy, and it ain't gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
We'll see, all right, folks, We'll be back up for
these important messages to talk more about a little bit
of the elections, but also about your your tax dollars
being wasted and a few other developments in military drones.
Are we spending money on the wrong things as there
is a major revolution, it's impacting the elections in Ukraine,
I mean the war in Ukraine, the warr and Iran

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and potentially the war in Cuba which may be coming
close to us. All this and more after these myths.

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Speaker 3 (19:51):
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for us to let our journalists par excellence have a word.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
And folks, you're listening to Hey mc kenny and Christopher
Tidmore as always, and we gotta we got some other
stories we actually have to cover. But I will say
that it is kind of interesting. You know, I heard
this this weekend and I thought it was really interesting
about it was actually the political philosopher Charles Murray who
used to not only used to call himself a libertarian,

(21:17):
but he actually wrote a book How to Be a Libertarian.
It's he no longer calls himself a libertarian. He describes
himself as a Madisonian, and increasingly I describe myself as
a Manisonian. And for example, there are a variety of reasons,
one about virtue and politics being extremely important, and there's

(21:37):
a religious basis to that. But there is another point,
and that is the disrespect to faction and the sort
of skepticism about single executive power which Madison had. So
I think it's you know, we don't.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Bring it up enough.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
We talk about it in the general sense, but every
so often it's good to remind the reason why this
is show is called the Founder show is not because
we're hearkening to a very specific, you know, right wing
viewpoint or whatever. You know, it's like some kind of caricature.
It's because we both high and I constantly believe that

(22:17):
the issues that we deal with were things the founders themselves,
in many ways weighed. There were different issues, there were
different times, but nothing's new under the sun. And the
concept of how a closed political party should be and
whether a leader should have that kind of level of power,
whether you think it's good or bad, is something that
Madison is dealing with in the Federalist papers. Federalist forty

(22:40):
one is talking about the dangers of faction, and this
is one of the dangers. What is a political party
supposed to be? He didn't think it was a good
idea at all. Jefferson, his mentor thought it should be
a grouping of people where you agree maybe eighty percent
of the time and then you disagree twenty percent of
the time. Well, I mean that's kind of the question
is to Trump, how much should you should have one

(23:02):
agreement or disagreement as a group. And so it's worthwhile
to talk about. And one of the things that really
gets me is my uncle. He's a federal judge in California,
but he was in Louisiana for fifty years and he
wrote me, and you know, he came the coverage and
he said, what motivated Louisiana to go back to the
closed primary? Well, for us, it's like we're quoting everybody

(23:24):
knows this. Jeff Landry wanted to get rid of Bill Cassidy,
and if we were an open primary, they assume is
that Bill Cassidy would get enough independent votes to get there.
By the way, one of the side effects that I
conclude from this election is, no, he wouldn't have Bill
Cassidy would have been if this had been all an
open primary, it would have happened obviously in October. So
maybe timing would have been different. But it's very clear

(23:45):
that the votes that Jamie Raskin met Jimmy Resk Jamie Davis,
the Democratic candidate got forty seven percent of vote would
have put him in second place behind Julia Letlow or
at a very close tie between Junior Lettler or Fleming.
Cassidy would have been forced out of the primary. So
that whole logic that we went down that pathway, it

(24:07):
was not actually necessary. This whole thing was kind of pointless,
and I don't think anybody's really talked about that. And
it's one of those things to where if we had
trusted the founders and their belief that, you know, an
election should be not based on party or loyalty, but
based on the whole thought of the body politic, a
democratic election, you would find that, you know, generally they're right.

(24:28):
The Founders made some mistakes. There was one the other
comment that I was get to and Ry, I say,
a Madisonian instead of a Jeffersonian is Jefferson The Declaration
is a powerful document of principle and thought, but it's
not our founding governing document. Our governing documents the Constitution.
And yeah, it got it wrong on slavery, and we've
had a maze of war bed but if you think

(24:49):
about every other part of the Constitution, the balancing of
powers and all this, it's Madison's creation. He wrote it.
It is a document. It is the oldest governing document
of any country on earth that is continuous. The British
might call themselves, you know, like Chancellory Exchequer in the
House of Lords, but they're fundamentally different institutions than they

(25:09):
would have been in seventeen seventy six or even eighteen forty.
Ours are the same effectively, and that says something that
we're the longest continuous government in the world as we
approach our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary without significant change. Yes,
we have directly elected senators as opposed to the legislatures,
but we did it by amending a process of our constitution,

(25:31):
by following the constitutional prelipse. And I think that's something
that the wisdom of the Founders and their thought processes.
We don't have enough. Jefferson thought there should be a
constitutional convention every nineteen years. Madison said, hell, no, you
have no idea how right we got it, and how
close we went to perdition, how close this process was.

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And I think it's worthwhile to remember why we call
the show the Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, and it's based on the idea that the Founders
were so biblic clean centered all of them. One thing
they all agreed on was the Bible, and that that
was the foundation for what they were doing. They had
different theologies, absolutely, That's one reason they had the wisdom
to vote in freedom of religion, because if they had
ever allowed a state church, the State Church would have
then oppressed all the other churches because of their different theologies.

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So they left it open. You can pick whatever theology
you want. Actually, in the early days they did eliminate
Muslims and Pagans. They did, and that was in the
early days. Now, that's how hardcore these guys were. It
was all about the and Madison was extreme. Madison said
the whole constitution was based on a Bible. He said
that the separation of powers came from the statement in

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the law levitical law that said there'd be a king,
a judge, and legislature. That's in the Bible. And that's
what we broke it down to three separate uh you know, divisions,
so that neither one of them could have the supreme power.
They would be Again, it was this constant idea of

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a balance of power because that's in the Bible. Madison
said the entire constitutions based on the Ten Commandments. He says,
if we don't do the ten Commandments, the constitution will
not work. This theme was repeated over and over again
by all the fighting folks, and Madison was one of
the strongest of them all. He was I would say
he's stronger than Jefferson, who was his teacher, and Jefferson
certainly had a lot of strong opinions about Biblical foundations

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for our country. So that's the one thing you can
say that when we talk about being, you know, the
Founder show, it's on the concept that our founding fathers
put so much emphasis on the Bible. At the ding
when they were writing the Constitution. It was a blood bath, folks.
It was not a pretty scene. They were all fighting
with one another, big states with the small states, the

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little states I mean, the western sides of the states,
with the eastern side, the rich states for the poor states.
I mean, it was a blood the northern states fighting
with the middle states who were fighting with the Southern states,
and the southern states within fighting with the northern New
England I mean powerble. But what was going on there?
And and and finally in the middle of it all,
it looked hopeless. In fact, Franklin even asked George Washington

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he was where he was sitting, there was a son,
and you couldn't tell if it was a setting son
or a rising sun. And so when he he left
one day, Franklin grabbed Washington and said, no, let me
ask you something the seat you're sitting on behind it,
is that a rising sun or a setting son? And
the implication was, is this over with if it's a
setting son? And George Bryn said, it's a rising son.

(28:30):
This great speech inspired by George Whitfield, with whom he
had been very close, that great evangelist to birth the
Great Awakening in America and Europe. Also, uh, he said
that you know, you know, you know this, gentleman, I
see something that is missing that would have never been
missed in the early days of this endeavor. He said,

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I noticed that we're no longer praying. He said, in
the early days, we prayed for everything and we won.
He said, if if we leave God out of this,
we're going to be no better than Babel and end
up with a completely destroyed country. I suggest we pray now.
They had a debate about that when of them said, well,
if we pray, that's showing the people that we've lost

(29:13):
our strength. Others said, if we pray, they're gonna we're
gonna think that we're trying to push the religion. On
and on on. They debate over that, and finally, uh
Franklin said, well, uh, mister Washington Uh, well, thank you,
and he sways, gentlemen, I will be here for that prayer. Mean,
and guess what, they didn't have to vote, because they
all showed up and from then on, not every morning,

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they prayed anywhere from an hour to all day long,
and within within about six months they had finally hammered
out this constitution that is stunning to this day, to
the whole world. It's still amazing. Like Christopher just told
us about.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
And I'm not debating Madison's belief in the need for
religious virtue, which is more extraordinary because by our modern
parlance now they're here in their jeff for some were Christians,
they believe in respected Christ, but they were Deist and
this is important to understand. They understood the impact of
religious upon faith. I mean, it's the Unitarians deliver the

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Jefferson Bible. I don't know if you've ever read it,
ladies and gentlemen, I've read it. It's basically Jefferson Jefferson,
and he takes out the miracles, but he doesn't take
out the teaching.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Acrost them foot missionary work with the Indians.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
The point I'm getting at in all of this is
there is a civic virtue, and the civic virtue that
created the Constitution is something we must always remember. And
one of the civic virtues of the Constitution is a
skepticism of power and demogragory, and I think we need
to remember that.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Well, anyway, it's very important. You mentioned said that they
were deist christ That's just wrong. Let me explain to
you what both men at times in their life wandered.
And they did wander into deism for a short while.
But listen, you don't ask people to pray if you're
a deist. You know why God's not here. That's why God.
The concept of deism is there is a God. He

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created everything, and as soon as he finished, he walked,
and he hadn't been back since and has no interest
in us, so prayers are wasted. He would have never
called people to pray the way he did. Also, Jefferson,
we have never written a Bible to do missionary work
amongst the Indians, and never written in the Northwest Passage
that this should be state funded missionaries in the Midwest

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to reach the Indians. Deists don't do things like that, okay,
So and then if you just don't, I can't go
into all the things they said and did right now,
but you will see that for a brief period in
their lives they wandered into deism. And from to this
day now all the Jivy League colleges and the big
liberals they always say they were doing. They won't even Christians.
That's a lie. For a little while they were. Many
people have strayed into all kinds of things, but they

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still come back to God, to the biblical concept of God.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Madison's own notes, and remember he did detailed notes after
to every day of the convention. Talk about the fact
that he didn't pray. I mean you got either. He
refused to be part of the prayer. So my point
being that you can believe in a civic virtue or not.
I want to change gears here for a second. Okay,
look he.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Prayed at other times, but maybe not at the convention.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Let's let's let me change gears here for a second.
To the war in Ukraine, war in Iran, and potentially
warre in Cuba. And the reason I say potentially warren
Cuba is where a Cuban the Cuban situation is getting
very critical. The embargo, the very little oil, electrical failures Cuban,
and most importantly, the Department of Justice did something which

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has never done in sixty years. It put out a
criminal indictment against ral Castro to stand trial for books
and as somebody who saw in the Cuban Revolution, his family,
you know, not only lost a lot, but a lot
of my cousins killed. I mean this, this this romanticizing
the Castros or God forbid s shee Gavera's romanticizing monsters

(32:56):
who are who are murderous dictators. What I find interesting
of this, though, is Trump's threats about invading Cuba, and
more importantly, Marco Rubio's speeches that's been giving in Spanish
about the Cuban situation, which.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Are quite articulate.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Cuba, before all this happened, bought a lot of Iranian drones. Now,
unlike Iran and Ukraine, they don't have the capacity to
make those drones, but they have thousands of them. And
you're saying, well, so, what what does that care. Here's
what we've found out in the Iran war and with
the Russians found out in Ukraine. One of these drones,

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of which the Ukrainians now are exporting to the whole world,
and the Iranians have exported for years. It costs between
one and three thousand dollars to make each of these drones.
They are as effective as a Patriot missile that cost
US five million dollars to build. Patriot missile takes the
US production process we have gone through. We've gone through

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about thirty seven to forty two percent of our overall
stocks since the beginning of the Ran war. It takes
two years. If we wanted to order one hundred thousand
Patriot missiles today, it would take two years before they
could be delivered, even if the Congress said price is
no limit, because the helium that creates the special chip

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process we have to actually import. Well, the reason why
I'm telling you all of this is Iran can build
a drone even in their reduced state right now, in
a month. Ukraine can do it in two weeks. The
Russians now are starting to realize because they don't have
the drone capacities, they've just been buying Iranian drones.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
And right Iron can't supply him anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
And so well, Iran can't get it to them, is
probably the best.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Way of saying, but their factories have been destroyed.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
The factories have not that the drone factories haven't been
That's one of the things that came out of the
end of the war. Iran still has the drone factories
for some inexplicable reason that I don't get. They were
not targeted.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I always thought they don't think they will be if
they go through now with the finish.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Of war, we'll see. I will also point out that
Trump lost the War Powers vote in the Senate May
the votes of Bilcassidy, so what well, we'll see. But
my point being that right now Russia, we agree on this,
does not have drones.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Ukraine does.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
For the first time, the Russians are losing territory in
d Nansk and the Ukrainians are actually winning the war.
The Iranians, one of the reasons why they kept standing
is every time we sent in a five million dollar
missile and they were destroying a lot, they turned around.
They would send a three thousand dollars drone or a
dozen three thousand dollars drones and guess what, no missile

(35:35):
to reach target. That's one of the reasons why the
Iranians morale stayed up because while initially in the war,
the killing of the of the of the Iatola and
the senior leaders was very effective. Was a surprized thing.
After that, believe it or not, American bombing campaigns weren't
as effective as we'd as we have had in past wars,
like we did against Saddam Mussin because of drones. And

(35:56):
the reason I'm saying this is there's an article in
the Wall Street Journal that British Member of Parliament, former
Tory Defense minister by the name of Tom Tugganhat wrote
and he says, and he makes this comparison. He said,
in the Middle Ages, at the height of the Middle Ages,
the the the knight in full armor and full destrider
on a war horse was an unstoppable force. It's like

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having a tank and come the Battle of Agincore, Henry
the Fifth, Uh, he comes in and what does he do?
He brings I just made the motion of it. He brings.
In English longbons, the English longbowman was not an expensive process.
It's a bit of you of wood and people practiced
it at home and it was and it could. The

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problem is they could put so many the average a
trained English long bowman, which was the average Englishman, because
that's how they hunted. They did this could put three
arrows in the air every minute. They would put so
many arrows up it didn't matter if you had this
incredible the high quality. You know, uh, dangerous to Shriners

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because they would be dead before they ever got the
line the mud help. He said, that's what happened to him,
And that's what's happening now. The United States is spending
so much money on weapons systems. In the F thirty
five cost US what six billion dollars that we're beginning
to see the drones will and here's the challenge. If
we go into Cuba, they have somewhere in the neighborhood

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of twenty thousand drones ready to deploy. They don't have
an endless supply.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
We will win.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But the fact is this is not as bloodless or
as things as we tend to think it is, and
it is a dangerous situation. We'll see what happens because
of it.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to say, boy, like the
Bible said, wars and rumors of wars. It's getting more
intense than maybe it's ever been in the history of
the world. I know there's always been a lot of war.
Now folks, I understand that. I'm a student of war,
have been studying war for many, many years now, and
there's never been a time where there hasn't been war,
and a lot of it. But it seems like it's

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all start to go up exponentially now. And that's because
of the most the advanced weapons systems that we have,
Like Christopher just talking about drones. Yeah, drones. In fact,
you know, there's a type of drone. It's a little
baby drone. It's like the size of a golf ball,
let's say, And they can turn loose thousands of those,
and each one of those will take out a soldier

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and you can't stop them. I mean, this is astounding.
So there's a lot of high tech weaponry out there
right now doing all kinds of stuff. But I think
we've got to figure out. Look, our defense department and
our military leadership knows a thousand times more about this,
and we'll ever learn they've forgotten more than Chris Frock
could ever learn in an entire lifetime. They're on top

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of it. They understand all these things Christopher just told you,
and they are preparing for it and doing the right thing.
And I don't know why Trump didn't take out all
the factories. Maybe he wants to take over the factories.
I don't know. I have no idea what's really going on.
There are a lot of things that happened, folks. I
know because I was in military intelligence top secret clearance,
that's the intelligence with US Lolling Special Forces. And I

(39:03):
was also a counter an insurgency and so I understand
how these things work and the concepts behind them. And
much of what you hear is not even close to
what's really going on. They've got a you know, it's
top secret. They can't tell you all about it. Anyway,
here's Christopher for the last word, where we have to
bring wrap this up soon.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, I want to bring up one thing that we're
going to cover in a next week's show. If you've noticed,
there's a hotel that's beginning to go up near the
Convention Center. It's an omni hotel, and it's being put
up right in the middle and Convention Center Boulevard on
top of two one hundred and fifteen year old warehouses
that actually were being used. They weren't abandoned, they were
at this it's breaking all the height restrictions, but that's

(39:41):
not the part. Next week's show, we're going to explore
how that six hundred and sixty three million of your
tax dollars you heard me correctly, six hundred and sixty
three million of either your tax dollars or tax breaks
over the next thirty years are being built to create
this hotel. We've asked questions the convention center authority. Why

(40:04):
didn't they build this in the whale parking lot that's
the big empty parking lot.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Is no answer.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Why are you using so much tax dollars when other
hotels are half empty or having struggles? No answer, And
so we want to get to the bottom of why
your tax dollars are being used to fund a private business,
and we're going to explore that at next week's show.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Perhaps it's because they're selling huge capacity so theyn get
more people here for conventions. I don't know, but that
you're right was for this strange development. So hang on, folks,
we need to learn about this to what our politicians
are doing with our tax money. And by the way,
if they make a profit, will that profit come back
to us? I wonder where it'll go. That's a big
question we need to answered.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
It's a private management group, Omni Hotels, and so the
answer is we're building the hotels for them, they'll operate it.
And yeah, for the most part, other than paying back
the loans, no, we don't get the money back, folks.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
We need to check into this, all right, We'll be
back in just a minute for the fine part of
the show.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
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Speaker 3 (41:42):
Folks, speaking of Memorial Day, remember there is a war
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the darkness world and spiritual wickedness in high and heavenly places.
That's right, spiritual war right now. We've got a lot
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We deal with very tough, tough situations. There's a lot

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to roll up their sleeves and go to war with
the devil, helping these poor and troubled and suffering people
in the interstry. And so thank you so very much
for hearing this, and I'll look forward to meet you
in the future. And God bless you all.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And ladies and gentlemen, we have an opportunity of great
cultural significance this coming next weekend, the weekend of May
the twenty seventh, because not only are there incredible exhibits,
new exhibits of patriotism at the Louisiana State Museum, the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the American Revolution, the
Galvez Expedition, how the role New Orleans played at the Cabildo,

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this incredible exhibit about the Young Men and the Original
Illinois Club that's going on at the Presbyteri right now,
which talks about how Carnival led into the Civil Rights struggle,
and an incredible music exhibit about the roots of jazz
coming out of classical music at the museum.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
But there's going to.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Be Tall Ships, a whole series of tall ships at
the Mississippi River. That's part of this great exhibit of patriotism.
They're going to visit many ports and they're starting here
in New Orleans, so you can take your kids down
and it has the virtue. Ships have no charge. They
can tour the ships, go to the museums, get a beigne,
do it all and remind them what a special country

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we have. This is all happening this coming weekend at
the Cabildo, the presbyter in the Jazz Museum, and the
ships that run along Woldenburg Park in Betweens.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
The ships, well, folks are back and you are listening
to the founders, so the voice to the founding fathers.
And it's not time for us to go into our
chaplain babe ba patriotic moment. We just take a brief
moment to remind you of the biblical foundations of our country,
our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And today we want to talk
about none other than James Madison. We mentioned him earlier
in the show. He was America's fourth president. He came

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right after Jefferson, who basically had been his instructor and
teacher for years, and he was a colonel in the
Virginia Militia doing the American Revolution. I mean, his accomplishments
are exhaustive. I can begin to tell them all to
you right now. But he is known as the father
or the architect of the American Constitution because he's the

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one who basically wrote it, with suggestions from many other
people do in many amendments and changes, Butanila's he was
a basic author of it and a great promoter of it.
And like I said earlier, he believed God had to
be in the center of everything we did. He's, by
the way, the one who made the motion to support
Franklin's Benjamin Franklin's call for prayer when the whole Constitution

(45:28):
was falling apart. He's the one who made the motion
for it, which eventually was voted in and aggressively supported
of court. Like I said earlier, by George Washington, these
are some of his statements. The belief in a God
all powerful, wise and good, as to essentially in the
moral to establish the moral order of the world and
to the happiness of man, that arguments which enforce it

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cannot be drawn. Too many times are too lightly and
not adapted with much solicitude to those who will hear it.
We have all been encouraged to feel in the guardianship
and guidance of the almighty Being whose power regulates the
destiny of nations. He wrote copious notes in his own Bible.

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Here just a few of them. Believers who are in
a state of grace have need of the Word of
God for their edification and building up. Therefore implies the
possibility of falling. In words, if you don't have God,
you're gonna end up falling in your Christian life. Failing grace.
It is the free gift of God, and you'll hear
about that a little bit later. A giver, it's better

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to give than to receive. It's more blessed. To neglect
the means of our own preservation is to tempt God,
and to trust to them is to neglect Him. He
went on to say that humility in his notes in
the Bible, humility the better any man is the Lord
thoughts he has of himself. Ministers do take heed to

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themselves and their flock. The apostles did greater miracles than Christ.
Yet in the matter not in the manner of them.
Because Jesus said, you'll do greater things than I've done.
It is not in the talking, but the walking and
working person that is the true Christian. You see. He
believed in performance that it wasn't just the talk, you'd

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better live it. And he's so right about that, folks.
I believe that Madison was definitely one of the strongest
people we had in the early days, supporting the concept
that God had to be in the middle of government.
He did so many amazing things. Time does not allow me.
There's so much I could tell you anyway, But what
about you? Where are you in this? Because you know

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Madison said something. He said that a watchful eye must
be kept on ourselves lest we are building ideal monuments
of renown and bliss. Here we neglect to have our
names enrolled in the animals of heaven. And that's something
I keep reminding y'all. Y'all could be the greatest biblical
patriots that ever lived. But if you died and went

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to hell, what good would it do you? That's basically
what he was just saying, folks. What about that? Well,
you're gonna find out all you need to know about
it right now as we now go into our chaplain
by by a gospel moment. Just take a brief moment
to remind you of the how you can know for
sure you're going to heaven because you're going to cross
over one day. That's something none of us escape. Death
is unavoidable. We all have to face that door of

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passing through to the other side. Even the creative of
the universe and the redeemer of all the universe, the
Lord Jesus Christ, did not escape death. So here it is, folks.
You know he talked about how grace is free. Well,
you know what, here's a great passage supporting that. The
scripture says for we've been saved by grace. The word
grace means free gift. We've been saved by a free gift.

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We've been saved by grace through faith. That's how you
take it. You can't write a check for it, and
you can't grab it with your hand. It all happens
in your heart and your mind. We've been saved by
grace through faith. And even that is not of ourselves. See,
we're not even smart enough good enough to create our
own faith. It is a gift of God. God gives
faith to every human being, just like He gives grace.

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To her. The Bible says, a grace of God which
brings salvation now the period under all people. So we've
been saved by grace and faith. And even that is
not of ourselves. It is a gift of God, not
of works. Less than he man should boss you. See,
no matter what you do, no matter how great your
works are, no matter how wonderful you think, your risis is,
the Bible says, it's filthy rags. It won't work, folks,
So just forget it, give it up, let it go,

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and realize that there's absolutely nothing good you can do
in the sense of good works, cleaning up your life,
turn it from your sins, giving money to the charge,
on and on. I can go on and on, soul
will hang out, gospel tracks. There's so many good things
you can do, singing great gospel songs. These are all
great things to do, but they're not good enough to
get you into Heaven. So forget it. And the moment
you forget it, the Bible says, you just repented. That's

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why Jesus kept saying, repent and believe. So first you
believe you can't save yourself, so then you're free to
believe that only he can that he did, and that
he will save you from a burning hell and guarantee
you ever lasting life. Folks, if you've never done this before,
you've never believe that Jesus died for all your sins.
I mean, from the day you're born, in the day
you die, your tiny it's to your greatest sins. If
you've never come to believe that that Jesus God, the Son,

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perfect God, perfect Man, all the way God and all
the man, your creator and your redeemer. If you've never
come to believe that He really did do the work
that it takes to get you into heaven, because He
died for all your sins and roast in the dead.
You need to do that now. Don't wait till it's
too late, like the old country preacher said, and like
the Word of God says. Now today is a day
of salvation. Do you really, beloved, If you've never done
this before, please do it now. You may not be

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here tomorrow, you may not make it through the night.
Trust Jesus right now with all of your heart. You
do it by with all your heart. When you believe
nothing else works, that's repentance. When you believe your hopes
and help us without God destined to a burning hell.
You just repent it. Now you're free to put faith
alone at Christ alone. Do it right now? Well, folks,
it's not time for us to go into our testimony

(51:01):
time again. We just take a brief moment to tell
you a wonderful story about it. Some great Christians somewhere
throughout history could have been someone living today. It could
be someone from thousands of years ago, from the earliest
days of mankind. And we've got many, many stories of
great stories of great believers, people, men, women, boys and
girls who walk with God and love God. And today

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we're going to talk about this amazing goal named Fanny Crosbie.
She is one of the most remarkable women I've ever studied.
She lived in the eighteenth century into the nineteenth century.
She was ninety five years old when she passed away.
She saw all she saw the early days of the
American Republic, all the way through the War between the States,
and into the early in the roaring twenties. She was

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an amazing gown. This is one thing that was so
amazing about her. She was blind, and yet she wrote
over eight thousand hymns and gospel songs, making her known
as the Queen of Gospel songs. Folks, this woman was stunning,
and she did all this while she was blind. Eight
thousand hymns, I mean, I think the next contender wrote

(52:07):
about two thousand, which is stunning to me. So what
a testimony. What a story of a great life lived
in service to God. She was a missionary, She was,
of course a hymn writer, a poet. She was very
active in her community. She belonged to many different organizations,
including the Daughters of the American Revolution. She was a
proud descendant of the Puritan Puritanical families of New England

(52:31):
and directly descended from some of the great ones. She
had a remarkable life. But you know, when she went
blind as a very young person, she didn't give up.
She didn't say life is terrible. She didn't say I'm
going to cry, you know, in my soup and just
give up. No, she saw that as an opportunity to
serve God all the more, and she did. Folks, we

(52:54):
can all do that. Look at what your testimony is.
The testimony is the story of your life. Look at
your life story. Where's it going? Why don't you see
if you can't make it like like Fanny Crossbies. But
you gotta trust Jeeves to do it. You gotta believe
he died for all your sins, was better and wils
today as your start point. If you've never done it before,
please do that now, make Jesus the beginning of your testimony.

(53:15):
What's time for us to go now? Is we're close
with a mon Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye, and
God bless you all out.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
There to call you cREL goodbye. They think we just
wasted time. All three, Siby, there's time for creo goodbye