Medicare Advantage Rate Hikes

Hy McHenry & Christopher Tidmore speak with Darren Grubb of Medicare Advantage Majority on the effort to underfund Medicare Advantage. The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services proposed a 0.09 percent payment increase. That rate was not reflective of real-world healthcare costs and risked significant premium increases for over 50% of Medicare recipients. CMS later agreed to a 2.48 percent rate increase for 2027. Hy and Christopher also discuss the Alberta independence referendum and its potential impact on Canada and oil entering the U.S. The show concludes with the spat between Trump and Pope Leo. Hy finishes by speaking on the importance of John Wesley.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
And God bless you all out there, you and now
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You're founding fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
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then your spenary by bother public chaplain Hi mce henry, who.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
With Christopher Tidmorey roving a reporter, resident radical moderate and
associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly
dot net. And for any of our audience who's on
medicare and one in five Louisianians are a major change
in Congress that you haven't heard about probably saved Medicare
advantage last week, and we're going to talk a little

(01:24):
bit about that with Darren Grubb. The fact that Congress
may have put enough money to keep Medicare advantage alive
when a lot of people on both the right and
left are, let's face it, trying to shut it down.
For many of our audience as well as many Louisianians,
it was a life savings. But the battle to preserve
Medicare continues. But before we get into any of that, Yeah,

(01:44):
we're going to talk a little later on the Louisiana legislature.
But I wanted to bring up one particular bill high
that's gotten a lot of attention as of late, and
that was the first of a series of bills to
restore us for the open primary. Now, for those of
you that don't know it, the five of you that
have actually paid attention to this byzantine, labyrinthine, unconsunderstandable, confusing

(02:08):
election we're about to have on May sixteenth, starting with
early voting on May second, that we're having closed primaries.
The closed primaries are for a Board of Elementary and
Secondary Education elections, elections for the public service Commission, which
is a competitive race, particularly here in the metro New
Orleans area, because Eric Scremetta is leaving. He is term

(02:31):
limited out and he's about to be appointed in three
weeks as Donald Trump's new number three person at the
US Department of Energy and has agreed to come on
the program and talk about nuclear policy in that But
and also obviously Senate in Congress, which is why it
was done. This was the closed primary was created to
get rid of Bill Cassidy, and it may be backfiring.

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But what and I'll explain that in a second. But
what has come to our attention in this coming precinct
confusion in all of this is the fact that the
legislation to actually get rid of represented Alan Sebra's Senate
Bill forty nine, to take the Senate the secret of
the Board of Elementary and Secondary Education out of the

(03:14):
closed primary, where only Democrats can vote for Democrats, Republicans
can vote for Republicans. But we think in theory, and
I'll explain this in a second, no party, which means
independence could vote neither. He wants to take it out.
Now you think this would be a controversial bill. It
passed the Senate unanimously. Now, folks, sometimes bills will pass

(03:34):
the House unanimously because people think the Senate will kill them.
There are no bills that pass the Senate unanimously. It
doesn't We're talking Louisiana Senate here. It doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
This is the most remarkable phenomena taking place of all players.
Says yes, Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It has ended all gridlock. And this is admittedly for
Bessie board seats. But what it is is the legislators
are hearing nothing but grief, and none of them they
were all elected under the open primary. They look at
it as more democratic, little d In fact, we are
the founder show. What has been often brought up on
the floor and the debates was the founding fathers were
deeply skeptical of faction political parties. They would have hated

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close primaries. They thought it was a very bad idea
and the idea of it. So it sailed through. The
governor wants this and the reason and there may be legislation.
There's two other pieces of legislation on the floor to
get rid of it altogether. Because no one knows what's
going to happen on May sixteenth, or with early voting.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Let me explain.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
In some parishes there have been requirements that people of
no registered no party had to inform the registrar of
voters' offices months before that, you know they were going
to vote in the Republican or Democratic primaries. There are
some parishes where that's not being enforced. I talked to
parish Clerk of Court John Gangenheimer, Clerk of courts run

(04:54):
elections and parishes, and it's like, no, we're.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Not doing that crap.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Anybody shows up on that day, just tells do you
want to vote in the Republican primary or not? If
you're not a registered voter. However, it gets trickier because
each parish has different requirements on how they're going to
vote for municipal elections. So let me give you an example.
There's some very competitive elections in Kenner municipal elections in Orleans,

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there's a very competitive judge ship race, but no one
sure how they're going to arrange the voting machines to
vote for that. If you're a Democrat. So let's say
you're a Democrat. Are they going to lock out the
Republican the competitive Republican primary for you? Are they going
to vote on that. There doesn't seem to be a debate.
And here's where it gets even more interesting. The new
clerk of court, the guy the clerk of criminal Court

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who's supposed to determine this in Orleans Parish, gets sworn
in two weeks before the election. That would be a
week and a half from now from this.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
But guess what.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
The bill to eliminate his office so that Calvin Duncan
will never take office is passed through the legislature and
they may get rid of his office before where the
election put it under the civil court who has absolutely
no experience doing this. Chelsea Napoleon says she doesn't know
how to handle it two weeks before an election with
nobody running the show, it is, this closed primary is

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the biggest mess. And here's the ultimate irony. Jeff Landry,
someone at the White House's behest created this closed primary
with the idea of getting rid of Bill Cassidy. Except
it's backfiring. The latest polls show Bill Cassidy and Julia
Letlow going to a runoff, and it shows that no
party voters favor Bill Cassidy in a June runoff two

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to one over Julia Letlow. Now some people have heard Juliet.
We're one of the few media sources in the state
that has had Julia letlo on in an interview. She's
a personal friend. I have great affection for her Trump
endorsement or not, whatever she's I think she'd make an
outstanding senator. But she's facing a real problem, which is
basically every anti Maga Democrat is prepared to vote for

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Bill Cassidy, as it's being said, as a lesser of
two evils, and Bill Cassidy will then coast to reelection,
whereas in a fall election where there might have been
as many as ten Republicans, he would have had a
much harder time. So the irony of this closed primary
is it's achieving exactly the opposite, at least it looks
like right now than what everybody thought it would achieve.
And it's giving everyone confusion on how to even act.

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I bet you that there will be people here. One
of three things is going to happen. Democrats in Republican
parishes like Jefferson are Republicans, and Democratic parishes like Orleans
are going to have real confusion about showing up the polls.
There's an irony in Orleans that if Republicans show up
heavy in Uptown in Lakeview, that it may actually affect

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how the judge races turn out. But if there's a
separate voting machine for the judge race, which has been
discovered in Orleans Parish, they may not vote, so we
may actually elect a judge. This is the Richard Perik
and others race in Orleans by a minuscule number of
votes because people will be only vote for part of
the ballot, not understanding they're allowed to vote in the

(08:05):
other parts of the ballot. I know you're thoroughly confused
by what I just said. Guess what I'm covering it
and I'm totally confused. Is what's gonna happen on May
the sixteenth. All I can tell you, folks, is if
you can go vote early. You can go to your
local registrar voters Jefferson. There are eight locations from grand
Isle all the way to the East Bank and West Bank.

(08:25):
You can basically go to the parish offices. Orleans. You
have the voting machine. In New Orleans East, You've got
the city Hall, You've got Algier's Courthouse, all throughout the parishes.
I would go early to vote because election day may
not have huge turnout, but it's going to be nothing
but utter confusion. And this is the moment to call

(08:47):
your legislators and say support Allen Sebras bill and in
fact support the other two bills to restore us to
the open primary so we never go through this nonsense
ever again.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Hi, wow, chrispher this is amazing only in Louisiana. I
don't know what to say, folks. Pray, pray that we
have elections that can be properly handled and where the
voters will not be confused and we'll have clarity of
understanding and thought as they go into the voting machine

(09:18):
so they can really vote for what they want. So anyway,
it's going to be a quiet experience coming up in
a couple of weeks, folks, get ready to hang on
to you. Actually, it's gonna be about a month, right, Christopher.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Early voting starts May second, not even a month. It's
a couple of weeks. The main elections May sixteenth, So yeah,
about a month. But anyway, folks, we can take a
quick commercial break. When we come back, we're going to
turn to the issue of medicare and how it's affecting
all of us here on the Founder Show. We'll be
back after these important messages. Stay tuned.

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on weekend show on wr No. So, folks, it's time
for us to start. We're getting into Medicare. Hang on
to your chairs, folks, it's going to get exciting.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Ste for Tidmore and folks, we've as promised. You know,
there's been a bit of an assault on Medicare as
of late, and you haven't read about it or heard
about it. And it came very close to affecting the
pocketbooks because we know nine hundred thousand Louisianians are dependent
on Medicare and more than half of them, just like
half of Medicare recipients in the country, receive Medicare advantage,

(12:43):
the ability to use private sector medicine to accentuate and
improve your healthcare options. And we're joined by Darren Grubb
of the Medicare Advantage majority. Something came close to happening,
and it had to do with funding. And we know
that health care costs are going up by seven percent
a year, but it seemed like for a while Congress

(13:04):
wasn't recognizing that and a lot of people on Medicare
advantage might have been left out in the lurch. Can
you give us a little background on this, Darren.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
I sure ken't Hey, great to have to be with
you guys, Thank you for having me on. So every year,
the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services CMS, they put
out an advanced rate Notice, which is a proposal of
how much the federal government will invest in Medicare advantage
plans for the following year. And so this year Medicare
advantage was proposed at an increase of only point zero

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nine percent, that's less than one tenth of one percent.
And as you mentioned, healthcare spending is rising on the
order of seven percent. It was seven point two percent
and twenty twenty four, and seven point one percent in
twenty twenty five, and so a point zero nine percent
increase given that level of health care spending, was not
going to not going to do the do the do
what it needed to be done for seniors. And so

(13:54):
we organized our organization artic organization. As you know, hundreds
of thousands of advocates nation They reached out to me,
their voices heard, to Members of Congress, to the administration,
and to CMS, and so CMS heard seniors and we
appreciate the fact that CMS listened to our seniors the concerns.
They adjusted the final rate notice to better reflect the

(14:16):
reality of what's.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Happening every day in their lives of seniors.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
And so they raised the percentage rate to two point
four eight percent now compared to points here nine percent.
That's better, and so we're think it's a step of
the right direction. But health care affordability remains one of
the biggest concerns for seniors in their families, especially as
broader cost of living pressure to continue to rise.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well, and Darren, let me ask it more specifically, because
there are a lot of people on both the right
and the left who are kind of like targeting Medicare advantage.
Even though half of Americans pass supplement and to have
a private health coverage under Medicare, there are people who
want to get rid of Medicare advantage on the left

(14:59):
because it kind of eliminates the government single pair, and
on the right because of cuts in it. And so
you're kind of finding an action against both wings of
the ideological spectrum.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
You know, you're you're right.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
This is a program that was cut quite frankly several
times by the previous administration. Seniors felt that impact of
their pocket books. There is an effort to rein in
healthcare spin as a whole. Our viewpoint is that you know,
seniors deserving choice when it comes to Medicare.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
That's why Medicare.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Advantage was found in nearly twenty five, you know, thirty
years ago to provide that private payer option, you know,
and we believe Medicare advantage.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
And you look at it, you look at the enrollment numbers.
You mentioned them at the top of the show.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
But more than half of all eligible beneficiaries, more than
thirty five million people nationwide, are on Medicare advantage and
they choose Medicare advantage because it goes beyond traditional fee
for service Medicare. Medicare advantage includes benefits like healthcare, hearing,
dental vision, coverage for script and drug covers that a
Medicare party that.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
We talk so much about.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Uh yeah, a cap out of pocket benefits every year,
which provides stability and peace of mind for seniors. And
so those are things that Medicare advantage offers all in
one place, whereas traditional Medicare is a fee for service option,
which is exactly what it sounds like.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
You need a service, you pay a fee, and so Medicare.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Advantage I know from I know from personal experience that
sometimes when the fees are put forward. There have been
doctors who've been denied repayment under conventional Medicare that aren't
under Medicare advantage because insurance companies actually have stricter regulations
on covering things than the federal government does.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Uh, that's right, that's right. And look here.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
You know, we like to say that we support government
regulation and oversight, but it must preserve and protect seniors
access to comprehensive, high quality, and affordable care.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
And so this is a critical program.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
You know, any effort to curb federal spending for example,
you know, this is a program that comes up every
every budget cycle and something that that people pull out
their knives and look at it and maybe we can
cut here and there. You know, we understand the need
to cut spending in the federal government, it cannot be
done on the backs of seniors or at the expense
of the healthcare that they rely on.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
And Darren Grubb of program, Darren Grubb of a Medicare
Advantage majority, let's let's be blunt about this. The basic
plan is to you know, cut spending on Medicare advantage,
to make seniors pay more and more and more. So
people will drop off of Medicare advantage. At least that's
some some people's objectives. Others are basically trying to say

(17:34):
Medicare is becoming, you know, something that the individual's senior
has even though they've paid Medicare taxes their entire lives.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
That's a great point.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Look, this is a program that, as you just mentioned,
seniors have paid into their entire lives. They expect when
they turn sixty five that the benefits that they have
earned and that they deserve will be there. You know,
this is an issue that we're focused on the here
and now for you know, because any funding cut has
impact on seniors who in the plan today.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
It has an impact on seniors who are about to
come into the.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Program, but it's some people like me who in fifteen
years will be eligible for Medicare. And so I want
to understand and know and have the faith that benefits
that I am paying into right now in my life
will be there for me when I retire, and.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
We hope it will.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I know there's funding crisis is coming up in Medicare,
and I play it. I would like to ask, you know,
we have a very competitive US Senate race going on
and One of the things I found is I was
investigating what you guys did, is that Center Bill Cassidy's
advancing something called the No Upcode Act. It sounds very bureaucratic,
but what is it something that would hurt Medicare advantage
in your opinion, you know, and I mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
A little a while ago, we are we understand the
need for there's not a federal program out there that
doesn't deserve some scrutiny.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
You know.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
We understand the fact that this is a program that
is looked at quite often, you know, as there are
many programs, but the No up Code Act, in particular,
we know would significantly undermine the affordability and the benefits
that more than thirty five million Medicare advantage singers and
people with disabilities around the country rely on, you know,

(19:11):
the CBO.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Congressional bud but shot obvious live at this.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
They determine that should this bill be enacted as it
currently is written, that would lead to fewer supplemental benefits,
higher premiums, higher out of pocket costs, increased cost sharing
for beneficiaries. It would undermine the access that seniors currently
have to the doctors and services that they need.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
And so you know, I'll give you one example.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
This bill would reduce funding for in home care and
care coordination programs that help manage chronic conditions and prevent
costly complications. And so you know, we know that that
the seniors with multiple chronic conditions, whether it's hard disease
or diabetes or high blood pressure, they are more likely
to be on Medicare advantage because of the comprehensive one

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point of contact coverage.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
The Medicare Advantage provides.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
And so you know, to cut f for this bill
would put a lot of seniors in harm's way. And
that's why we've been so strong and active in fighting
any provision like the No up Go To Act in
its current form.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I've been surprised, Darreon Grubb that it hasn't made more
coverage in the very competitive US Senate race that it
is between Bill Cassidy, Julia Letlowe, and John Fleming in
the close Republican primary. But I do want to say
that what you guys managed to put together was rather
extraordinary by getting the higher funding out of the Trump administration.

(20:31):
If somebody wants to join your organization or find out
more about it, how would they.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Do so they can go to our web page was
Medicare Advantage majority dot org. Medicare Advantage majority dot org.
And the last thing I'll say on your final point
regarding that election, but every election in the midterms, is
that you know, seniors are a.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Very reliable, dependent voting block.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
In twenty twenty four, more than forty million seniors showed up.
There was the highest round of any age group. They
are educated, they are empowered, they are folks on issues
that matter to them into the bottom lines, and this
is certainly one of them.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
The boomer the boomers are sir booming in there in
our final years. I'm a boomer. I love it.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Hey, I got a lot, I got a lot of
people in my family group.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Boomers.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Look, they are fired up for this issue, and so
they are going to vote for.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Don't masters the boomers don't remember. We made it through
the sixties. We know how to fight well.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
And I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say something on a
personal level Medicare. My dad had Medicare advantage HMO, and
if he hadn't pursued it, and you remember, people in
Medicare advantage pay extra each month to be able to
do this his his coverage at the end of his
life where he had to be in the hospital for
you know, cardiac recovery and all this, it would have
bankrupted us.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was, it was.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
It made a massive difference, and it was it was
the difference between him essentially leaving me with very little
debt or leaving massive hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
You know, yeah, God love, thank you for sharing that
and that.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
But that is a hallmark of it.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
You know, this is not about just a beneficiary who's
receiving the Medicare Advantage program. It's about the caregivers and
the family members who are a part of that community
taking care of that senior. This has a trickle down
effect and so you know, anything that happens with the
Medicare Advantage program, we like to remind people there's a
multiplier effect and impacts families caregivers nationwide, and so that's

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a big number of our population.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Darren Grubb of Medicare Advantage Majority dot Org. Thank you
for joining Hi mc kennery and Christopher Tidmore here on
the Founder Show on WR and O and WSLA. We
wish you the best.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Thank you, Darren keep up the great work. All right,
thank you much.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
All Right, folks, I'm sure some of you want Hi
and I to talk about Trump, Jesus, or the war
with the Pope, or the seventy million Catholics and how
that affect the Republican coalition. But you know what, I'm
not interested in those seventy million voters and all this because,
however that's going to happen. Trump and his war of
the Pope is not something that's going to be determined
this for the midterm elections. I mean, it might effect

(22:57):
turn out the Republicans are probably going to lose the
House to the Senate. I'm actually more interested about another
election that's going to happen in October I and that
is the Albertan independence election. Now, nobody, this is why
you listen to this show. Nobody is talking about something
that happened with the Trump administration on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Nobody. You see looks like Canada's joining in America.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
No, it's it's not, but not You're not far away
from this, I know, not far away from what actually
ironically fifty first state. So Trump approved very quietly the
building of five new pipelines to Alberta Alberta is the
area right above Montana, you know, right on the Canadian border.
But for those that don't know, Alberta has most of

(23:40):
almost all of Canada's oil and it also has a
lot of its aggate farmland. The area between Calgary and
Edmonton is as it's basically Texas North. It is so
totally different culturally from the rest of Canada. I mean
the idea of gun control and Alberta is how many
bullets you can get through the targets. It is a
totally different and Alberta's have been frustra traded because several

(24:01):
things happen. One and a very basic one is Alberta's
overwhelmingly members of the Conservative Party, the United Conservative Party
of Canada. It's a very conservative state, a very conservative
province in a very liberal area. Well, here's the thing.
Alberta has thirty seven members of the House of Commons.
Quebec and Ontario together have over two hundred, and it

(24:23):
takes one hundred and thirty seven to become to get
a majority and to get the same number of people
elected in Alberta. Because here's the weird thing about Canadian politics.
Once you have a seat in the House of Commons.
This is very inside baseball. You never lose it. So
there are a lot of provinces in the East that
have almost the same number of seats Alberta, which by

(24:44):
the way, transfers something like twenty like it transfers ten
billion dollars to Quebec each month. You imagine a state.
Imagine if Louisiana, Texas, for example, was transferring let me
give a rat equal out. Imagine if Texas had to
transfer seventy five billion dollars to California every year. There'd

(25:07):
be calls at the Alamo. I mean it would be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
You know what unique about this, Christopher, the fact that
we will now have a second state named after a
British king. It's not George Over was one. And then
now we'll have Alberta from Prince Albert.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Right, so let me let me let me put down
some people in the United States. Alberta is not becoming
the fifty first state, nor does Trump want it to.
He's actually said it. What is happening is Alberta in the.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Just just reverse psychology, folks. Come on, you know he
wants to Canada.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
What he wants is albert and oil and so in Alberta.
Alberton's for the most part here. Let me let me
finish telling the story real quick, so very quickly. A
few things have happened. There was a general election where
the majority of the votes in Canada went for the
Conservative Party, and yet the Liberals got a minority government
because it takes fewer votes for them and the other
provinces to get elected. We talk about the electoral college here.

(25:58):
It's nothing compared to the way things Gerry manderd in Canada.
So that's the first part. Then the Prime Minister Mark Carney,
the guy who's been at War of Trump, starts offering
money to Tories and he constructs a majority government effectively
without another general election. They did have one special election
in Ontario that just happened. He's got a majority, a

(26:20):
very basic majority, but without a general election. So you're
here in Alberta. Well, what happened after the last general
election is people got pissed and they started a referendum.
They needed to collect one hundred and seventy seven thousand signatures.
This isn't a province of five million people. Why is
that important? Alberta is exactly the same size population wise
as Louisiana. We're effectively. Louisiana actually has a few more people.

(26:43):
We're both about five million people though Alberta. Imagine trying
to get one hundred and seventy seven thousand signatures in
Louisiana for anything. You have to certify everything, name, address,
telephone number, you know everything. They got to have a
copy of your ID. It is not anonymous. That would
be damn near impossible in the state. They got it.

(27:03):
In fact, they didn't just get it, they got over
two hundred thousand for it. The latest polls in Alberta
for independence are at forty five percent and they're rising
because another thing happened Canada. They had the Liberal Party
convention and Canada and the Liberal Party endors state policy.
To leave Canada to get a job in the United States,

(27:24):
which is a frequent happen they want you to pay
a five hundred thousand dollars exit fee and Alberton's. Alberton's
go back and forth to Texas all the time. By
the way, if those that don't know, the most frequent
international flight out of Dallas Fort Worth is Calgary. They
have about seven or eight a day because there's so.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Much Christopher they want to join Texas. That's what's going
on here. And guess what if we get their oil,
they know we get their people, and I think they
want that.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Here's the thing. They don't need to join the United States.
Trump has actually said so, because that's the one thing
the people. Because I hate to tell you this, Canadians
define themselves as not being Americans, even the conservative ones,
especially the conservative ones, because they that's what the War
of eighteen twelve in their perspective, was about. That's their
war of independence. And so ultimately, folks, Trump has actually

(28:14):
played this one. You're finding something in front of you,
because I think he's been utterly insane, getting in a
war with the pope over it just for political reasons.
Forget whether who's right or wrong. But very quietly he's
been playing this. And if Alberta goes here's why this
is interesting. When Quebec wanted to get independence, the Supreme
Court of Canada ruled twenty five years ago that you

(28:35):
couldn't stop them from leaving. So the law exists. The
only thing that the government in Ottawa, and that's the
federal Government of Canada can do is negotiate over the
debt and say how we will go once Alberta, if
it votes for independence, leaves. Now everybody in Canada's saying, no,
this fascist people, you won't lift. I was in the
UK when Brexit was coming about, and everyone said it

(28:57):
could never happen. It'll come close, but it'll never happen.
And I watched it and high and I had multiple
we actually sponsored three debates on Brexit, and we're on it.
And at the end of it, I said, it's gonna happen.
And here's why people who normally don't vote Tory are saying,
to hell with it, I want out. And that's and
I go to Alberta myself about three or four times

(29:20):
a year. I'm gonna be up there in August and
I'm watching it. And if Alberta leaves very quickly, Saskatchewan,
which is the other priority, will follow because their economies
are intertwined. Maybe Manitoba. I don't know what British Columbia
does detached. British Columbia is a very liberal place, and
I mean liberal as in left wing. It's not even
Liberal Party. It's NDP, which is a very far left group.

(29:40):
But it economically it has a real trouble One of
the reasons why Alberta wants to leave, and to Mark
Carney's credit, he's trying to get this negotiated, is British
Columbia refuses to let a pipeline go to the Pacific
from Alberta so they can sell their oil, you know,
to other countries. And so the Alberta's are like, what's
the point of being in an federation where we can't

(30:01):
even export our oil? Because Prince Rupert, which is right
below Alaska, is one of the deepest ports in the world.
It actually has more tonnage now than Los Angeles does.
It's a huge port, and I know people are surprised,
what the hells of Prince Rupert, but it's a very
small place with a massive import things. So they just
want oil tankers to be able to take their oil,
and so they're frustrated if they leave. Ironically, it makes

(30:24):
absolutely no economic sense for Quebec to leave. But as
soon as Alberta leaves, rest assured the Quebec separatists are
about to lose win the election, Quebec may leave. And
so we talk about Canada. You know, Trump's confinings canna
be the fifth verse. It won't be the fifth verse state.
But there may not be a Canada here in two years.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Quebec and Montreal. They may want to join Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Well, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Nova Scotia will want to come to with the Cagens.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
They're now Scott's. They got rid of Cajun We got
all their cagus.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
But you remember, Hi, you remember about three years ago
when I did that story up and Up Eels for
the radio show. So we were scept Eels. Is the
area ripe above Nova Scotias. This is called the Seven Islands.
It's where all the Cajuns escaped to and we went
and there's a there's a four and a historic thing.
We did live remote from there. And one of the

(31:15):
things that was interesting about it, everybody in the island, Boudreau, Thibodeau, Landry,
it's they're all and they freely admit they said, our
brethren in Louisiana, and they came in and spoke to
us in Cajun French. There is a lot of sentiment
about them because they they they very much. They will
tell you we're Cajuns, We're a Kadi period. They make

(31:35):
no mistake about that. We just we're the ones who
the British couldn't catch, you know, who ran faster. That's it.
That's literally what it was. Eleven five hundred people were
ethnically cleansed by the Royal Navy and the remainder managed
to flee to the Indians into the forest and survived.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
They were very close to the Indians up there. They
got along really well with them.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Actually intermarried with them for over one hundred years.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, I know that. I know in fact, a lot
of Cajuns have that Indian something like that. But yeah,
and so there was that was that worked to their
advantage to be able to just fall back into the
woods and live with the Indians because I knew him
so well.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
But here's what I'm saying. I will tell you that
the maritime provinces, this is where I find it interesting
to really you want to take an alternate history route,
the maritime provinces will don't really like Ontario, the main
province of Canada, Toronto and that whole area that's where
most of the population is. But they kind of survive
it because they get things and their English speaking. But

(32:30):
they don't like the Quebecers either. If you go from
all of those provinces up to Prince Edward Island up
the Saint Lawrence. You know what flag they fly. It's
not the Canadian flag. It's not the Canadian red ensign,
which has the It's the British Union flag. Every single
town flies the British Union Jack. It's it's by the way,

(32:52):
just so you know, folks, it's only the Union jack
on the back of a boat. It's otherwise called the
Union flag. But what you think of is the Union jack.
They fly it in the square and I've always been
intrigued by that. I'm talking to government buildings because their
attitude is we're loyalist against I can imagine a scenario
where Canada won't become the fifty first state. It will
become a republican free association like Greenland was going to be,

(33:15):
but the Canadian Maritimes could become the United Kingdom's fifth, sixth,
and seventh nations. That's what they call their states, you know,
like Wales in Scotland. And who would welcome them in
Probably Prime Minister Nigel Farage, Trump's buddy. Now having said that, before,
you're saying a Trump fantasy, I'm gonna point out the

(33:36):
other side of the story, Trump was dealt a major blow.
In fact, it was a really bad week for JD.
Vance for two reasons.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
JD.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Vance of course was flying to negotiate the ceasefire in Pakistan,
but on his way he stopped in Hungary and Victor Orbon,
when of Trump's closest supporters was up for reelection, and
Vance didn't just go and meet with Orbron, he campaigned
for him, and he basically said it's critical to revote.
Orbon lost. His party went down to fifty six seats

(34:08):
in this and the opposition got one hundred and thirty
seven seats and basically a two hundred member parliament. It
was an after sixteen years in power. It was an
overwhelming defeat. It's going to change a lot of things
in European politics, particularly when it comes to Ukraine. There
is going to be you know, there's no more vetos
against Ukraine. But it's really bad for Donald Trump because

(34:30):
Trump had and for JD. Vance, because Vance had staked
a lot on this endorsement, and a lot of Vance's
social policy ideas were Orbon's. Some of them aren't terrible.
Orbon is an authoritarian, but he had a couple of
good ideas. One of them is that, for example, and
he's like Tid Moore, you're defending Victor Worburn an idea
when it's a good idea is could be a good
idea from anybody if it doesn't affect it. If you're

(34:52):
a woman and you have two kids, you never pay
income tax for the rest of your life. If you
have two kids before the age of forty, know that
because the cost of what you have to give up
in your career to have children, that's how you make
it up. It's increased the birth rate in Hungary, that
kind of thing. So there are ideas that come in
that has been very close. So JD. Evans leaves Hungary

(35:13):
and soon before a defeat he gets to Pakistan. He
has this twenty two hour meeting with the Iranians that
goes absolutely nowhere, and effectively we have the Persian Gulf
where the US is going to be committed. And the
reason I'm telling you all of this is a few
weeks ago people were giving me emails and they were saying,

(35:34):
I don't understand what you're doing. On the one hand,
you're critical of Trump on his objectives and what he's doing.
On the other hand, you're defending the war and going
against Iran. And what I said was, look, the problem
we're going to have extricating ourselves in Iran is if
we don't have a very clear policy on how to
get out of Iran, we're going to be We're not

(35:55):
going to have a clear way to negotiate. If we're
going after nuclear weapons, it's a very straightforward. If we're
going after regime change, then we're in for a long
term war with probably ground forces. What is the if
you keep jumping from objective to objective, no matter how
successful you are, you look like you failed. So Trump
has Look, the American military has wiped out roughly seventy

(36:17):
percent of the military assets of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
They have wiped out most of the leadership of the
Islamic Republic. By most metrics, we've had successful bombing operation.
But because we had so many different objectives, Trump could
walk out of this and still be a failure, even

(36:38):
though there are elements of the operation that were a success.
I'm not failure for things. I'm talking about perceptions Hi
and this is where I'm getting the war with the
Pope of Codoth sides. There is no winning a war
of words with the Pope, no matter how you may
think of it, no matter how you may do it,
there's no political utility where Trump, where fifty five scent

(37:00):
of his coalition or Catholics, fifty five percent of the
people who elected him are Catholics, are going to find
this to be acceptable. Right now?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's not Christopher, I know that there, and I don't
know what the percentages are, but there are a lot
of Catholics that are very upset with this pope and
what he's doing. You know, think of it. They all
know it, We all know it. The pope has so
many crimes at its door now, all the pedophilia, and
then think of this, folks. For centuries, for hundreds of years,
the popes have created and managed wars, probably more than

(37:32):
any other nation. And now all of a sudden they're
holier than those and they're against war. Well, I'm against
war too, But sometimes you don't have a choice. You know,
if a bully is beating up people in the neighborhood
and yet a strong boy comes in and whoops up
on the bully, well he had to whoop up on
a bully to protect all the rest of the victims.
That's what's happening right now.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
That would be just war. That's not what that is
a just war there.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
That's what Saint Augustine defined.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
So he problem is Trump hasn't by those categories. The
bombing around which I supported, by the way, hasn't reached
the just war. But I don't care about the Pope's position.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
That's your position. I believe back.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Against in a fight against the Pope is a politically
is a politically stupid move because there is no winning
this Christopher.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
The thing is, his back's against the wall. He hadn't
have a choice. The Pope is a real hater of
Trump and has been for years now. It didn't just happen.
He's been had Trump derangement syndrome for years in Chicago.
There there's a mountain of evidence proving that he just
hates Trump.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
And so Pope was a registered republic.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
That doesn't mean there are a lot of Republicans. I
hate Trump. That means nothing. That means absolutely nothing. So uh,
obviously the Pope is having a fit over Trump because
he's succeeding and he's bringing he's stopped like eight wars
now and he's getting ready to top another them. That's
it we're on. That's hopefully this is finally gonna be
put to bed. As hard as it is, I think
Trump's gonna do it. So so we got to wait

(39:00):
and see how this is gonna unfold. But let me
tell you.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Something politically, this might have been a bad move for who.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Didn't have a choice. The pope attacked him aggressively, Yes
he did, chrispher So anyway, it's it is what it is.
I think there are many many Catholics that doesn't lose
their devotion to the to the Vatican, to Rome. But
you know, not all Catholics are so hot on all
the popes. Necessarily they know they've been some really bad popes. Everybody,

(39:29):
look at the Catholic encyclopedia if you doubt me. Anyway,
it is time for us to take a break and
we'll be back shortly for the chaplain by by a
patriotic moment and the testimony time see all in a bit,
God bless by.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
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should bring something to a party because that's a good thing.
And what's one of the best things to bring? A
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Speaker 3 (42:06):
Folks if you're going to The French, quarter there's something
you got to. See and this is you, know for
a lot of. Us sometimes when we'll go, Downtown i'm
gonna ask you to make an exception because there's the
most spectacular exhibit at the Presbyter it's A carnival exhibit
on The Illinois, clubs The Young men's And Old Men's.
Illinois it's spectacular, costumes the original, sets including one of

(42:27):
the Old French Opera, house which is one of the
greatest Paintings i've ever. Seen that fotos in an entire
Wall scepter's history so much so that plays not only
the greatness Of, carnival but the civil rights movement as.
Well and while you're at the presbyter walk on the
other side of the, Cathedral i'm wonderful cathedral under, renovation
and go to The cabildo and see the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary exhibition for the Of galvez and The American.

(42:50):
Revolution you'll find out That louisiana played one of the
most key roles in The American, revolution and this story
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there take a look at The lafayette exhibit that's still

(43:11):
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Speaker 2 (43:18):
March go owsh, well folks were back and you are
listening to The founder's, show The voice to The Founding,
fathers and it is now time for us to go
into our chaplain by by patriotic moment where we just
took a brief moment to remind you of the biblical
foundations of our, country Our Judeo christian. Jurisprudence and today

(43:39):
we're going to talk about another Than John, wesley who
had a huge impact on Early. America he was part
of The Great. Awakening he was good friends For George.
Whitfield they had been to college Together, oxford and later,
on When wesley was at the bottom of his emotional,
state let's, say he'd become very. Depressed he worked so
hard to Please god with all of his good deeds

(44:01):
and all, that and nothing seemed to be. Working he
just kept, feeling he continued to feel that he was
just getting further and further away From. God and it
wasn't until he Had he loved The. Moravians he could
really See christ in, them and he wanted to know
why he couldn't have. That and so when he went
to A moravian meeting at a place Called aldersgate at

(44:24):
the reading of the preface to The book Of, Romans
wesley said his heart was strangely, warmed and he realized
for the first time in his, life Only jesus could save.
Him And jesus did save, him and he rejoiced in
his faith alone In christ alone. Experience but he continued
to be somewhat of a very religious, man let us,
say full of rules and, regulations because he was raised like,

(44:47):
that and he wouldn't leave the church to preach or.
Anything he had to do everything, properly let's, say according
To english, tradition The church Of england. Tradition and then
one day his old Buddy, whitfield they've crossed, paths And
winfield knew the Talent wesley. Had he, said, look come
on the highways and the, byways come to the fields with,
me and preached to the common man and to the

(45:10):
coal miner and. Whatever and he, did and the results were.
Remarkable all of a, sudden he was getting thousands of
people to come with. Him so it ended up with
he And Charles, wesley who was every budgest, tality that
was his brother who wrote all the. Hymns they ended
up storming all over The british isles and back to the.
Colonies AND i think they made at least a dozen

(45:30):
trips to the colonies where they would spend several years
going up From georgia all the way up To, maine
preaching and creating this great movement In america called The Great.
Awakening that Been franklin was amazed, over he, Said Ben franklin,
said it was as if the whole world had changed In,
america that all the jails were, empty the woorhouses were shut,

(45:51):
down there were no drunks in the taverns. Anymore and
as you'd walk through the streets Of philadelphia would hear
the beautiful hymns coming from every home of men and,
women boys and girls singing praises To. God he, said
it was if a spirit of holiness and righteousness from
The bible had taken Over. America, folks that was the
foundation for The american revolution has Been franklin. Said when

(46:15):
he answered the question as to who Was George. Whitfield
did he have to do the? Revolution you? Know franklin's
answer was he was the. Revolution, well this is What
John wesley. Said he, said of the several rules for.
Life he, followed he, said do all the good you,
can by all the means you, can in all the

(46:35):
ways you, can in all the places you. Can that
meant politics by the, way and all the times that you,
can and all the people that you, can as long
as ever that you. Can, so, Folks wesley did all
that and look at the amazing results from. It, well
how about, you has your heart been strangely? Warmed have

(46:58):
you Found christ as your? Savior well you can right
now as we go into our chaplain by by gospel,
moment where, again to, say a brief moment to show
you how you can know. That you know, that you
know when you, die you going to. Heaven you will
Be god's. Child all you have to, do, folks is
seek childlike. Faith remember what it's like when you were a.
Kid try to think like. That what was that kind of? Thinking,

(47:20):
simple a level of let's say. Innocence try to think
like that right now and, believe, folks that Only jesus
can save. You the scripture says that he died for
all of your sins according to the, scripture that he was,
buried and that he rose from the dead according to the.
Scripture that's First greenlians. Fifteen, folks that's the, gospel and

(47:42):
the scripture, says a gospel is the power Of god
into salvation to whosoever Believeth you gotta believe.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
It.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Now there are two things you have to. Believe, first
you have to believe you cannot save, yourself your hopelessant
helps Without, god and that is called. Repentance that you
are a total loser before your, creator and there's absolutely
nothing you can. Do John wesley had to realize that
he kept trying to do all kinds of good, works
and he just got more and more, depressed and he
kept messing things. Up he really messed a lot of

(48:08):
things up in his life during that. Time he was
a miserable, person but he could see the life Of
christ in The, moravians where he had went to one
of their meetings At. Aldersgate they understood that simple gospel.
Message he just couldn't get it till finally one day he, Did,
well this might be your, day, Folks and the next
thing you have to believe is That jesus did die
for all your, sins all of. Them the day you're

(48:29):
born and the day you, die you tie us to
your greatest. Sins, Jesus god The, son paid for your
entire sin debt on the, cross and then he rose
from the dead to win for you his precious free
gift of, resurrection ever lasting. Life he took care of
your love problem and. Sin he took care of your
love problem and. Death and now you've fixed and ready to.
Go if you, believe you've just got to believe with
all your. Heart and the way you'll believe with all

(48:51):
your heart is when you realize you cannot save. Yourself
you cannot help. Yourself if you've never done this, before
do it. Now believe right now with all your heart
That jesus did die for all your, sins was buried and,
roast And god guarantees you ever lasting. Life, so, folks right,
now it's a it's a challenging, time isn't. It we're
seeing all kinds of problems in the in the world. Today,

(49:14):
uh wars and rumors of, wars, Earthquakes, uh, pestilences even,
famines all kinds of stuff are coming down on us
right now on this, plant the very things That jesus
said would come when he. Returned, folks we're we're on
the edge Of christ's. Returned it is so called signs
in the. Heavenlyes look at all the UFOs and the
other strange things going, on the the astronomical phenomena that's going.

(49:38):
On there's just so much happening right now that portends
the soon returned Of. Christ they're even going to be fake,
messiahs false messiahs right. Now the The Shiah muslims believe
the False, Messiah, well he is a. Fault they think
he's a Real. Missia the Twelfthy mom is gonna crawl
out of it well one, day but only after they

(50:00):
destroy half the, world including. Themselves they have to do all,
this these horrible things to make The messiah come. Back,
folks there are going to be a lot of horrible things,
happening and the human race is going to be creating
that led by The. Antichrist AND i really believe that
the Twelfthy mom is The antichrist if it's all of
the characteristics of The bible gives us for The. Antichrist and, so,

(50:22):
folks we are so close to the. End, now now
are you ready for? It maybe you need a, bunker
a place to go. Hide The bible says they'll hide
in caves and cry out for the you, know the
earth to fall upon. Them it's going to be so.
Bad do you have your? Bunker do you have a safe? House,
well if you, don't let me recommend one to. You

(50:43):
the name of the safe house is called The Lord Jesus.
Christ go to him right, now make him your, bunker
your safe, house and you're guaranteed protection for all, eternity
no matter how bad it'll it'll get in the, end
and it's going to be bad do you realize that
one of the things that's going to happen is something
like ninety five percent of the entire Planet earth is
going to. Die the human race is going to be wiped,

(51:05):
out animal life is going to be reduced to small, numbers, fish.
Everything it's this world is going into a terrible apocalypse
and it's going to be, bad. Folks The Four horsemen
and the apocalypse are going to be raging all around the.
World by the, way the colors of the Four horsemen
of The apocalypse the four colors Of. Islam what do

(51:28):
you think that? Means? Folks it's getting, Wild it's getting.
Bad those colors are are, white, black, red and, green
and The muslims always choose those four colors for their
flags and everything. Else, folks it's getting. Close jesus is
coming back. Soon are you? Ready you better get. Ready

(51:51):
and the first thing to do is to make, sure
Like Charles John wesley, did that you know you're going
to heaven when you, die that your heart has been
strangely warmed by The, gospel which is the power Of
god under salvation to whosoever Believeth the scripture, says have
you really trusted in The. Gospel have you believed That
jesus did die for all your sins with Better Rosemond?

(52:13):
Dead have you ever Heard john three point, Sixteen For
god so loved the. World that's, you that's, everybody that
whosoever believeth In, him that's. You, again believe That he
died for your sins In Rosemond. Dead believe you can't save,
yourself which is. Repentance and who's ever believed In him
shall not, perish not go to, hell but have everlasting.
Life you get his everlasting resurrection life the moment you,

(52:35):
believe dearly, beloved don't miss. Out make sure you know The.
Savior make sure you Know, jesus because we are so
close to the. End and it is my duty to
be a watchman on the wall and warn people That
jesus is coming back. Soon and IF i, don't The
bible says your blood will be on my. Hands there's

(52:56):
a prophecy in The Old testament for, that in a
warning that when the, watchmen these are the guys who
protected the city, walls if they didn't warn the people
that the enemy was, coming then the blood of the
people would be on their. Hands but if you have
heard this and you ignore, it then your blood will
be on your own. Hands don't ignore, it, folks believe
That jesus really is your, savior that he did die

(53:18):
for all your, sins was buried in rose of the. Dead,
well it's time for us to go, now as we
close to the Mind Saint martin singing A creole, goodbye
And god bless all the call you cREL.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Goodbye they think we just wasted.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
It the time.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
All three, simbol there's time for A creo. Goodbye