Trump Dominates GOP & Maybe Louisiana Senate?

Hy & Christopher discuss the Indiana and Ohio GOP primaries and how Donald Trump’s endorsed candidates defeated long-time incumbents. They question whether the same outcome could occur in Louisiana’s May 16 U.S. Senate race, where Julia Letlow and John Fleming currently lead incumbent Bill Cassidy.
The discussion includes congressional redistricting and an underreported Supreme Court ruling regarding distribution of the abortion pill mifepristone. The Louisiana Attorney General sued to block federal HHS from allowing mail distribution of the pill in Louisiana. The Supreme Court declined to issue a temporary injunction, citing executive authority absent congressional action. Christopher shares a personal life development and its impact on his views. Hy closes with a patriotic reflection on Gen. James Warren.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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magicians choose to see the money, then you don't. There's
nothing to feel. The holes, well, they're filling their pockets,
bide holes, the politicians bouncing down the road, every bition

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for no moment. Corruption and its function. It's gone out date.
Divide is diven.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Rallies at the state capitol for two African American districts.
But does the current map under discussion actually mean? Steve
Scalice could lose his election? And the Supreme Court ruled
on the Louisiana law on banning Miller pristone, the abortion drug,
how is that going to be playing when it goes
to formal review by the same justices? And what does

(00:54):
it take to be really wealthy in America? And more importantly,
what kind of tax policy should be those that are not?
All this and more in this edition of The Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
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Then you spend Gary Babbao, the republic Chaplain Hi mcnry with.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Christopher Tidmore, your roving reporter, resident radical moderate and associate
editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net.
And we're going to come up and talk about the
rallies of the Capitol just in a second, what it
could play. But we have to start off with another story,
which is the fact that Donald Trump took out several
Indiana and Ohio incumbents and there's a state primaries because

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they didn't vote for his map to expand numbers of
Republican districts. Indiana's raided in this in the United States
as having one of the fairest maps, majority Republican, but
very reflective of the vote in the state. And when
the President wanted a redrawing of the map, it was
a group of it was actually ten Republicans who joined

(02:18):
with the Democrats to vote down this effort. Well, out
of those ten, three retired and there were seven five
of them were defeated in primaries based on Donald Trump
and endorsing their opponent, and one of them only wins
because his campaign manager puts another person in the race
who has the same last name, Wilson as his challenger.

(02:40):
So there's actually confusion. It might have been six out
of seven rather than seven out of seven. Interestingly, the
seventh guy was supported by Mike Pence, and he kind
of Mike Pence, as you remember, as the former governor
of Indiana, and he kind of pushed him over the top.
Well why am I telling you that? Why do you
care about Indiana? Well, one, it shows very much still
Donald Trump's Republican Party. But two, there's a little race
going on for the United States Senate where this issue

(03:03):
is playing a major role. Trump's endorsement of Julia Letlow
and his very negative opinion of Bill Cassidy is putting
Cassidy in the third place according to the latest polls,
which nobody foresaw. So Cassidy's entire fate is dependent upon
the number of no party voters. Those are Democrats and
independents who registered no party who will vote in the

(03:27):
Republican primaries. And there's been an active push towards that.
But right now, you know, we're gonna say if Trump
was able to take out incumbent state senators we put it,
I will say something high. Trump spent six million dollars
to take out these state centers and Republican primaries. That's
more than he's spent by a long shot in Virginia.

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And a vote, you know, the redistricting vote they had
to amend the constitution. It went before the Virginia voters.
They got fifty one point five percent. If you had
spent that six million dollars in Virginia, he might have
ended up with more congressional seats than trying to get
revenge in Indiana. From a financial standpoint, it wasn't the
greatest investment of capital. But I will say that Bill

(04:12):
Cassidy is having some problems right now. Julia Letlowe and
John Fleming are all over the media's as is Cassidy.
But Bill Cassidy's being attacked, and it's interesting who's the
attack dog.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Kennedy Cassidy's head of the Health Committee, and of course
he voted for Kennedy's nomination as Health and Human Service
as Secretary. But he's been very hard on Kennedy's preferred
nominees for the CDC and other sub offices, and Kennedy's
skepticism and vaccines. So apparently Robert F. Kennedy has been
raising money to take out like negative ads via super

(04:48):
pac to take out Bill Cassidy and he might even
be in Louisiana before the election to rally the faithful.
Quite a lot of things in politics. Of course, early
voting started sends the congressional races, which we'll talk talk
about it on this past Saturday, May the second, and
they run through with the election. They've run through this week.
The election, of course is May sixteenth, and that raises

(05:11):
a question high do you vote earlier?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Do you vote an election day? I do it both ways,
christ and.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I'm finding as increasingly people are voting early that and look,
I'm going to be the first one to say I
do it constantly because it's so much easier for me.
And it's not easy to vote an election day. And
what do I mean by that? It used to be
that your primary, your polling precinct was right down the street.
It was in somebody's garage or a local church or

(05:37):
whatever have you. But it was within walking distance. Now,
unless you're extraordinarily lucky, I don't know of anybody who's
precinct is a short walk down the street. And part
of that is because they concentrate the precincts, because they
have a lack of precinct workers, but mostly because they
have to be eighty A compliance. They need to be
in locations that can take a large group of people,

(05:58):
have ramps and so forth, So precincts aren't convenient. So
one of the reasons people are early voting is just
it's not convenient to vote on election day. If you're
going to have to drive to some American Legion Hall
or whatever it would have you, it's just as easy
to drive the city hall and go down and vote
right down there. So I think that tends to benefit

(06:22):
Party Fateful, and that if you're looking at the Senate
race and the down ticket races, that tends to benefit
anybody whose name is not bil Cassidy. But the down
ticket races are kind of interesting, very competitive Supreme Court
race and competitive races for the Public Service Commission and
for the Bessie Board. I think it's fair to say
that the Public Service Commission race is going to go

(06:44):
to a runoff. And right now you have John Young,
the former parish president, against two state representatives, one of
whom's been all over the news a lot lately, Stephanie
Hilfridy on the sewage and waterboard issue. That's her bill
for New Orleans. But I don't know how that plays
in Livingston Parish or some of the other parts. If
you do talking about that, Young has had some very

(07:04):
good commercials on it. Mark Wright from Covington is also
on that. He's been playing who is the best person
to worry about the grid? And I'm really curious to
see how that particular election turns out. I think it's
going to be a runoff. Also, Joseph Gou, you know,
the former congressman, is running. He was appointed as an
interim by the governor for the Bessie Board. He's running
for a full term on the Board of Elementary Secondary Education.

(07:27):
But a lot of the Republican faithful are going behind
a couple of his opponents. But I notice that a couple,
not one, So I think that's going to go to
a runoff as we come in. But the real question
is what happens in the Congressional elections and even how
their format will be and even when people can qualify
for them before we get in all that high your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, Chris for great reporting here. Remember, folks, Christopher is
a journalists, journalist par excellence on this show. That's his profession.
He's a professional journalists and the political editor one of
the local newspaper and does all kinds of podcasts and
other things. So he's right on top, right in the
middle of everything political in this state and for the

(08:08):
whole country. But I do have to correct them ocasis
and point on certain things, and one of them is
it's just an addition, not a correction, and that is
Vivek Ramaswami his cruise to the top with Trump's support.
There's another trump man.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
That was a really difficult primary. He got eighty six
percent of the vote.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I know, I know that was a really competitive front.
That shows that shows you how powerful the name of
Trump is. So anyway, but yeah, it's just an interesting
point though that there goes another Trump guy getting to
the top. And also just because Trump competes politically, it's
not that he's always trying to get revenge. You always
point him in the darkest light there he is. He's

(08:48):
supported these guys getting revenge instead of going to Virginia
and helping them there. Know, you had to get us revenge, Christopher.
I don't agree with you on that. And I also
think that there's a plan in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Trump is never about never.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Never, nothing like the Democrats, christ Oh, nothing like the Democrats,
not even close. I mean they literally employ murder in
their revenge tactics and great violence. They're the most violent,
you know, group of people in America and have been
for decades.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Now.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, I'm making a good point here. You don't need
to get me off this topic because I'm making a
good point, Christopher. That's why you want to get me
off the topic. I know your tricks. Boy. Anyway, Uh,
Christoph's a good man. He just I just got to
keep them kind of you know where in place, let's say.
And so anyway, the uh, Virginia. There is a plan

(09:37):
for Virginia, and I think they are the plans to
work it through the courts, which is would be the
very best way to do it. So it's not like
Trump is ignoring Virginia. He's just got a different tactic there.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
This is when I get to how work it to
the courts, Because Virginia mended their constitution, so that allows
them to have redistricting outside of disineal processes. There there
is no grounds. The Supreme Court has said you can
have partisan redistribution. That's how Texas and California and everybody
else are doing it. I mean, there is no particular

(10:10):
way of getting the Virginia reversal. Now what is interesting, folks,
is Florida is producing more tickets. You've got Tennessee and
Alabama both going to the polls, and Alabama was supposed
to have their elections in two weeks, so they're very
similar to Louisiana. You got Mississippi looking to get rid
of its one Democratic seat Bernie Thompson African American rule Democrat,

(10:36):
which is unusual. But all the attention, of course, has
been turned to Louisiana. We are the one where Louisiana
versus Callus came in before the Supreme Court, and there
are multiple plans going before the legislature. We talked a
little bit about them yesterday. What was interesting is watching
the reaction this week. A man I respect very much
wh's been a frequent guest on the show, Reverend Byron Clay,

(10:56):
former president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference nationally right
now national vice president, was organizing a rally and he
was one of many, you know, the ten thousand women
Mills of Florinois and a whole bunch at the Capitol
and to show up and testify on the districts. But
what was interesting is some of the Republicans that came

(11:17):
to their coming to testify. And what do I mean
by that. Well, the plan that seems to draw the
most attention is called Senate Bill one one six And
you can go online, folks and just put in Louisiana
Senate Bill one one six and you can get a
map of it. But here's this basic thing. It creates
six white polarity and majority districts. Five of them have

(11:40):
a white majority. The sixth, which includes Orleans Parish, Jefferson,
parts of Jefferson down to the coast, Tangi, Lafouche, terror Bone,
Saint Bernard, and Placaman. That's the district it has a
white polarity. Now Here, in order to have a white polarity,

(12:00):
it takes out the west bank of Jefferson and puts
that in Steve Scalice's district. But one of the side
effects of this map is Steve Scaleese, the majority leader
of the United States House of Representatives, under this map,
has a district that's barely fifty percent white. Now you're like, okay,
so in Louisiana, in order to have a safe Republican seat,

(12:24):
you have to have fifty five percent white population. When
you go below fifty five percent white, it becomes a
swing seat, it becomes a competitive seat, and we haven't
had one of those in a very very long time.
So the idea in order to get a white polarity
that means you don't have a majority of white people,
but they're the biggest single group, which is probably a
Democratic district. Anyway, you're putting Scaleese's district into swing district territory.

(12:49):
So I'm curious to see how the state reps. There
seems to be a lot of response on that. And
because it would be very easy first to essentially say
Troy Carter, who would represent all of Orleans and Algiers
and he get most of Jefferson Parish, simply got the
whole west bank of Jefferson Parish, which he represents now,
and that would give it a slight Black polarity. In exchange,

(13:12):
Schalice could represent the Lakeview area of New Orleans and
the Lakefront, which he actually represents right now. That's so
the districts aren't at parish lines. It's a very easy
change to make. But that kind of does not fulfill
President Trump's desire to have a complete and ubiquitous Republican
delegation from Louisiana or from any other state that he

(13:34):
can get a complete Republican delegation. And this is one
of the points I was trying to make. When your
state is one third black, it's almost impossible to draw
six Republican districts forty percent of the population of the state.
I don't care who would be running for president. I
don't care if it's George McGovern, I don't care if
it's whatever. You know, says Our Chavez, who cares forty

(13:58):
percent of Louisiana is going to vote for the Democrat sometimes,
you know, depending upon the candidate, it'll be forty two
or forty three or slightly higher. Republican tends to win
it with about fifty six to sixty percent of the vote,
but the floor, the absolute floor for any Democrat statewide
in Louisiana's forty percent. And so if that's true and

(14:18):
you're trying to subdivide the state, you can't do it.
So there's a trick bag. And we're talking about Trump's attitude.
He's putting tremendous amounts of pressure on both jeff Landry
and on Liz Morale, the Attorney General, and by Corlarry
the legislature to draw six districts. But there's not a
practical way to do it. You could draw a white polarity,

(14:39):
so you'd have something like forty five percent white and
forty percent black. But if you're including that, and you're
including Orleans Parish and all that which you've just drawn
as a white Democratic district, a white Democrat being elected,
you haven't achieved Trump's goal, and you have put scale
in a position with fifty percent of the white vote

(14:59):
where he could be in danger from the right, from
the correct or the strongest Democrat challenging. I point out
to people, Jefferson Parish was won by John Bell Edwards twice.
It has become a swing area of five hundred thousand voters.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yes, Chris for interesting, By the way, folks, we're talking
about black white districts and all that. But what we're
really talking about is a Republican Democrat. And the reason
we're using the word black is because the blocks like
vote ninety nine percent Democrat. So that's why we're referencing
them as the key player on this Democrat Republican split
and how they're going about it. And by the way,

(15:39):
there were Democrats had been jerremandering for at least forty years,
maybe fifty years, and they accounted for something like ninety
five percent of all the jaramandering, taking away the votes
from Republicans all over wherever their big states were, Like,
they were about seven states that they had taken over
with jaramandering, and they were stealing all those votes in

(15:59):
the Republicans. Finally the Republicans got up and said, well,
we're going to do it too. That happened and started
a couple of years ago. And so where the Johnny
Come Lately is here. That's why you hear so much
talk about what the Republicans are doing to jerry mandic
because we're trying to catch up with what the Democrats
did to even the score. And it's gonna be interesting
to see how these elections turn out if we get

(16:19):
all our jerrymandering done, just like they did on theirs.
For instance, the state of Massachusetts, don't think it has
one Republican district because they've taken over the whole state
with jerymandring. Illinois is very similar, and they're and there
in California, they're about seven or eight heavy, you know
blue states where they've just completely wiped out the representation

(16:41):
in Congress for the Republicans through jerrymandering. So I have
no no problem with with what we're doing. We're just
evening up the score, folks.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I point out California was not one of those states
prior to this because of a Republican Arold Schwarzenegger had
gotten a bill passed statewide that the derivation of districts
couldn't be more than five percent, and California had quite
a few Republican districts. I'd point out the former Speaker
of the House, Kevin McCarthy, was from California. Now it

(17:11):
isn't now they partisanly divide, but they did it when
Texas partisanly divied. My point, I will make one disagreement
just because I'm talking about African American districts in Louisiana
to African American districts because there is a truism we
don't want to acknowledge. No black person has ever been
elected statewide in Louisiana. Ever, It's never happened. No PBS

(17:32):
pinch black was not elected statewide. He filled the unexpired term.
He was appointed by the Senate as Senate President and
therefore lieutenant governor. He filled the unexpired term. It has
never ever happened in the history. But the point I'm
saying about this is even white Democrats, all things being equal,
let's face it, they tend to vote for a white

(17:54):
candidate over a black candidate, even sometimes at the range
of party. And this is the part of the reason
of creating black majority districts is not just to create
democratic districts, it's create districts an African American can actually
win because white people generally do not vote for black candidates,
even black Republicans, at least not in Louisiana. Some states, yes,
not here.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Actually, there was a great show on that showing how
many black Republicans are being put into office by white people.
So that's really not true. Chris. For now, I don't
know I'm not talking about just Louisiana. I'm talking about
I'm talking about the whole country, and that they've got
tremendous support from white voters for years now. So I mean,
the way I see it is the way I've voted.
I'll look at what are the people stand for. I

(18:37):
don't care who they are. If they're Asian, you know, African, white, Hispanic,
it doesn't matter to me. I want to know what
are they for, what do they stand and I vote
for that. And there are many times where I know
of Africans black guys who would vote much more along
the way that I believe in than the white guy would,
especially of course of their liberals. You know, you know,

(18:57):
I mean, there's no way I can support them. So, Christopher,
that's maybe true in Louisiana. But and by the way,
we talked about black politicians. During the reconstruction years, the
blacks in the Southern States represented something like nine of
all the people in office. There were almost no white

(19:17):
people elected to anything during those years. So remember that
also when you think because the white people were disenfranchised,
they weren't allowed to vote, it was the black people.
And so you see these movies and the poor black
guys are coming up to vote and the kk comes
up and runs them off and say, oh, they never
got a chance to vote. That is such a lie,
as a huge lie. During that time, the black people

(19:38):
control the vote in the South, total control, because they
were the only ones really being allowed to vote.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I do not want to get into that argument because
we can get in an argument from the White League
and everything that was happening in Sherman's suppression of the KKK.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
But one of the things that this had nothing to
do with the White League. I wouldn't bring that up.
And by the way, as soon I'm not having this argument.
As soon as the freedom of vote was allowed, what
happened to the KKK It disappeared.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Some might argue that, but anyway, it absolutely did. All right, gone,
let's but Hi, you're not debating the fact that here
in Louisiana it's really difficult for a black person to
get elected to anything, even a black Republican like class in.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
New Orleans gross for place in heavy black areas, But
that's the difference.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
In a district that has a majority African Americans, a
black can win. And that was part of Lena Kagan's descent.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I'm a white guy. I'll never get elected to anything
in this city.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I guarantee you well, you get elected to Congress if
we have the current map. We'll talk more about this, folks,
but when we come back, it was another Supreme Court
decision that got a lot less attention, or at least
the beginnings of decision, A temporary stay over Louisiana Bill
and the abortion drug miller pristone. We'll also talk about
what does it mean to be wealthy in America today?
And you might be interested in finding it. And last

(20:50):
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some of the Trump middle class. How would it be
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Speaker 2 (24:02):
Three incredible exhibits are going on at the Louisiana State Museum.
Those are the buildings in and around the cathedral and downtown.
In fact, at the Presbyteria on the second floor there's
an incredible carnival collection. If you've never seen it, folks,
you've got to come see it. And one of those
rooms is on the Illinois Clubs, the Old Illinois and
the Young Men's Illinois and their history and background is
their wonderful exhibits showing everything in the crowns, the scepters,

(24:25):
the history, how it played a role in the civil
rights movement, and even one of the backgrounds of the
nineteen sixty eight Young Men's Illinois Opera, which is the
old French Opera House. It is an incredible exhibit. And
see the rest of the carnival exhibits. Then go to
the other side of the cathedral, go to the cabildo
and see the incredible Galvez and the American Revolution and
find out how New Orleans played one of the great

(24:45):
roles in the American Revolution. This is a great opportunity
to bring your kids. Teach him the story about the
way that this untold story of how we play the
essential role, how we provided it. And if you can
bring them the weekend, have made the twenty seventh where
all the total ships will be the Mississippi River free
to tour all the big ships as they make their tour.
And if you've got time, make it on the walk

(25:06):
down the new park that's the beautiful park extension of
Woldenberg Park. And go to the Jazz Museum at the
Old Mint and see how the roots of classical music
in New Orleans led to jazz and rock and roll
and everything in the forgotten music of the Classical Music
of New Orleans, the Wonderful exhibit that's running through June
at the Old Jazz Museum, all of this at the

(25:27):
Louisiana State Museum.

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That ohs.

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You're roving reported resident radical moderate and associate editor of
leisaa weekly newspappert loisa at a weekly dot net And
you know all the talk of the Supreme Court and
the Congressional finding in Louisiana versus Callous. Any other week,
the big story of the week would have been the
fact that the Supreme Court ruled against Louisiana in another case,

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and that is the restriction of Miller pristone. For those
that don't know, Miller pristone is the abortion drug. And
so the state of Louisiana has an absolute abortion ban.
But right now, if under the Interstate Commerce clause of
the Constitution, other states can send miller pristone, the abortion drug,

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which available in most states over the counter, directly to Louisiana.
So the state sued the Food and Drug Administration to
restrict access to Miller pristone, saying the availability of the
medication by mail has allowed abortions to continue in Louisiana
despite the nearest total ban on the procedure. Here's where

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it gets tricky in the politics of Trump's of America
and the Republican Party. The ReFood and Drug Administration reports
to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The Secretary
of Health and Human Services as a man by the name,
as we brought up early in the show, Robert F.
Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Robert F.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Kennedy Junior's pro choice and Trump. Donald Trump has very
publicly said that he believes abortion should be allowed in
the first trimester. He's a moderate on the He's a
moderately pro choice individual. He basically wants to leave it
up to the states, though, and that's where it gets tricky.
So the Supreme Court ruled on Monday in a stay

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that nationwide access should be allowed, and the person who
ruled it was Justice Samuel Alito, one of the conservatives.
He said he paused at lower court ruling from the
previous Friday that had prevented abortion providers from prescribing the
pills by telemedicine and shipping them directly to patients. Now
this is going to be reviewed by the entire United
States Supreme Court, and there are a lot of Louisianians

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who are going to come out and say, you know,
we're pro life, and look, I'm going to be the
first one to say this. This is a complex issue
for me. I revealed to a lot of my friends
and family that my wife and I are expecting a child.
It's been a long road. We're gonna have a baby,
and we've gone through IVF and gone through.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
A beautiful baby. Because I've seen a picture of.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
It, we actually and that's kind of the interesting part.
So our baby is eleven weeks old and we have
a video and it looks, I hate to tell you,
doesn't look like a fetus, doesn't look like a salamander,
looks pretty much like a baby. It's moving around like
a baby. We got video, a sonogram, the whole works,
and that's in eleven weeks. Miller pristone is supposed to
be used only to ten weeks, but most of the

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time it's prescribed.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
As to twelve weeks.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
So from a personal standpoint, what looks like my son,
I do happen to know the sex that is a
baby could be aborted. On the other hand, I'm the same,
I've got the same thing. In other states where abortion
is legal, it's legal up this ability of up to
twelve weeks is considered. That's where most Americans believe. The

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vast majority of Americans, somewhere like sixty eight percent, including
a majority of Republicans, have said that they believe abortion
should be available in the first trimester, that's the first
twelve weeks, the first three months. And so Louisiana assuing this,
this goes to the Supreme Court, I will tell you,
and it's going to disappoint a lot of people. But
the Supreme the same Supreme Court that ruled against Roe v. Wade,

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ruled against it not because they were pro life or
because regardless of their personal feelings. It is because it
was There was no congressional law. There's nothing in the
Constitution that says it so anything. Remember that wonderful tenth Amendment.
Anything non enumerated in this Constitution is a reserved of
the States and by corollary of the people. Well, that's
what it says. And so if this goes up and
Louisiana says you can't prescribe it, they're going to say, Look,

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the Tenth Amendment says Congress has to act. And if
an absent of Congress hacks, the interstate commerce clause applies.
And if one state where it's legal, wants to send
it over the mail to another state, they can. And
guess what if you can't get the Republican Secretary of
Health and Human Services to restrict the practice or the
President of the United States, both of whom have privately

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said they don't have a problem with it, then effectively,
at Louisiana, abortion is legal in the first twelve weeks.
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Folks?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Where do you take on this? Because if you're following
the extract rule of the founders, absent congressional action, there
is no legal laying to stand on whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Hi, yes, of course, for uh, I agree with you,
and folks, you know I'm a hardcore pro life guy.
I believe life starts at conception because there is life there,
there's a living being, a living cell, and it has
human DNA. And remember, by the time most people realize
if they're pregnant, that baby is a real baby. You

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can see it. It's got you know, had eyes, everything, feet, hands,
And so most people when by the time they realize
they're pregnant, they are killing something that looks like a
human being. And it has a heart beat, it has
brain weaves. That's the definition of human life, by the way,
so medical the medical definition. So uh, you know, there's

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it's just it's so wrong to practice abortion and kill babies. Uh.
It's it's against nature, it's against course, it's against God's law. Uh,
it's a horrible thing. And and I don't believe it
should be allowed at all. I mean, I love Trump,
but I disagree with them on the trimester deal. You
can see, this is a trimester baby, and and uh,

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you know, according to that, you could kill the baby.
I really believe Trump is doing that for politics. I'm
not sure that's what he really believes. Remember, politicians make
certain allowances because they want to get the vote. And
he's had to become a politician too, you know, to
be a politician to win elections, and so I don't

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know that's what he really believes, but uh, it's wrong,
and we have to stand for one hundred percent pro
life from the moment of conception is my position. And
these drugs, and then you think about what the drugs
do to the babies. They they the babies fight it.
It makes their skin slough off, they get acid washes,
they get all kinds of horrible things out of as

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little babies, and they're literally fighting it in the womb.
You can see it. It's horrible what all the stuff
does to babies in the womb. It's wicked. You see
him screaming, you see him fighting for their lives. It's
it's it's abominable. Anyway, well quits for those my thoughts
on it, and I think I think we need to
outlaw that drug.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You can't unless Congress acts, which is not gonna happen.
And look, the fact of the matter is you raised
an interesting point about the politics. I don't know what
Trump's personal viewpoint is, I know what he says, but
I will tell you that in his now newly home
state of Florida that the same people that were voting
for him voted against the constitutional ban on abortion. I

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mean there was there was a tremendous cross over of
women's votes. So you've got you're dealing with not Democrats here,
but a sizable, if not a majority, of the Republican Party.
So how that will play off, folks, We'll see the
Supreme Court is going to consider that. It is interesting
that Louisiana has been the forefront of each of these issues.
Jeff Landry, of course, as the former Attorney General, with

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Liz Morel his protege as the current Attorney General, are
leading a lot of the cases on this front. But uh,
I wanted to bring up something that was a little
side effect. Let's change gears from the abortion issue for
a second, because I think a lot about what it
means to be successful in America, what it means to

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be rich, or what it means to be comfortable, or
what it means to you know, have enough to get by.
And one of the things I think Republicans are about
to be in a political trouble. And here's why the
next Democratic candidate for president will probably employ a bill
that's being sponsored by US Senator Chris van Holland of Maryland,

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and what it is is called the Working Americans tax cut,
and what it would be is for each individual American
making forty six thousand dollars a year, or for couples
making eighty thousand, or those with two children making one hundred,
essentially you'd be removed from the tax rules.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Then Holland and his allies in Congress answer to that
is to put surcharges a five percent tax on the
first dollar of an individual making over a million dollars,
a ten percent tax over two million, a twelve percent
tax over five million, basically a ser tax that would
impact six hundred and fifty thousand tax filers and raise

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about one point four to six trillion a year. But
I will tell you this is the first time I've
seen Democrats relate to something that Republicans have a complex
issue with, and that is the fact that if you
make less than one hundred thousand dollars a year as
a married couple today, especially if you have children, you're
not rich. You're barely middle class, and in fact, you're

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working class in America. To be able to be a
family of two, you can barely make it on eighty
thousand dollars a year and fract with kids, it's really
over one hundred. But let's say one hundred at one
hundred thousand. If your kids go to public school, which
we know in Franklin, South Louisiana, is not a positive
way for them to get an education because you're gonna

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have to come up with a school tuition. But if
you make less than a hundred thousand dollars and you
have a kid and you're married couple, I get news
for you. You're not successful. You're not rich in real
term dollars. You're making what was basically five thousand dollars
around the after the Second World War in the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
And what's a poverty level, right, like fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Poverty level officially is for a married couple would be
thirty seven to five. But let me say this, it's
a bad math because one of the things that doesn't
calculate is how expensive of housing is. They used to
calculate the poverty.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Level and insurance and everything else. I mean, everything's got
so expensive that folks.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I mean you used to calculate the poverty level. How
much food was well, food is now not the major
food used to constitute a anyway, One of the side
effects of this is if Republicans don't come forward and
offer a similar proposal of how to eliminate taxes for
those that make less than one hundred thousand dollars a year,
I think they're going to be a competitive lack of disadvantage.

(37:27):
The problem is this is not like other tax cuts,
counting the capital cans tax. It means, at least in
the first couple of years, you get more money because
of the sales and this that doesn't happen when you
eliminate roughly ninety percent off the US tax rolls, because
basically ninety percent of Americans or more make less than
one hundred thousand dollars a year as a married couple.

(37:48):
But I did want to bring this up just as
an observation about the wealth distribution in America upper You
know what number of the upper class actually starts with
You're considered not wealthy is simply upper middle class. You
know how your net assets have to be take a wild.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Gas just to make consider one hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Seven hundred and fourteen thousand dollars. That includes your house
and everything. But that's what your net assets have to be.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
That's a new Orleans viewpoint that I gave to be
wealthy the New Leans paint job. Remember what that was,
You just paint the front of the house.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
To be wealthy in America you have to have it's
up five percent and twenty twenty you have to have
one point two million in the bank. To be elite,
you have to have thirteen point sixty seven million. There
is differences, Like you're getting at a two point one
million is the same in the Midwest as three million
in California.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Now if I'd been in Texas and out of probably
said seven million, that's seven thousand.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
The point I'm getting why is that that number seven
hundred and fourteen thousand academic that's how much you have
to have at retirement to retire along with social security
in a sense of dignity. Now that's counting the idea
that you've paid off your house. I mean, so it's
not that you need seven hundred and fourteen thousand in cash,
but basically that's how much you need to retire in
dignity in America. And that's so few people it's not

(39:09):
even worth counting. It's a pathetic number, and it tells
you how expensive it's become across the board to live
in this country, and frankly, the affordability argument is something
neither party has really been addressing. And at least center
of Van Holland, I'll given credit, you know, at least
says it. I think there's a lot wrong with his proposal.
It shouldn't phase out if you're going to put higher

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taxes and really rich people. But the fact of the
matter is in America we've got one point six four
trillion dollars being carried by people who can't afford to
live and taking them off the tax rolls and make
a big difference. One last thing before we leave the
show today, because we're almost done. You probably heard that

(39:52):
Helena Moreno has been selling the revenues from the casido.
She wants one hundred million dollars and for that she's
going to lose the state. The city will lose four
point seven million dollars a year. Look, I'm sympathetic to
the mayor on this idea. It's to rebuild the emergency
fund because if we have a hurricane and we need
to come up with money quick to rebuild the assets,
we won't have it. But I agree with the BGR

(40:13):
on this the bearolgarm Maoris just said, great, sell the proposal,
but make sure the only time you can actually access
it is in time of a major natural disaster or loss,
because right now the rules say you could spend all
untility winks if you spend it tomorrow, And I don't
trust politicians with a big wash of money at one time.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
You're right, Christopher, Well, folks, we'll be right back after
this last commercial break.

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Well, folks are back and this is Chaplin hih McHenry
on the Founders Show. And it's not time for us
to go into our chaplain. Bye bah. Patriotic moment. We
just take a brief moment to remind you of the
biblical foundations of our country, our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And
today we picked a man name General James Warren, who
lived from seventeen twenty six to eighteen or eighty in

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US long life intose eighties, which in those days was
a very long life, and he was from Massachusetts. He's
the President of Massachusetts Provincial Congress, Major General, Provincial Militia.
He's on the Navy Board, and many me other responsible
positions and accolades go to this man. He was really
a remarkable man. He's married to a lovely gal named Mercy,

(43:04):
and she wrote a book later in life that basically
became one of the great foundational works for learning and
knowing American history that part the revolutionary period of American
early development of this country. During the Provincial Congress in
seventeen seventy five, and remember he was a president of it,
he made this statement that's very powerful if you want

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to think about where our finding fathers were concerning the military,
let's say, in that's government. This is what he says,
as it is pleased on many God and his Providence
to suffer the calamities of the unnatural war to take
place among us. He's talk about the American Revolution in
consequence of our sinful declensions from Him and our great

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abuse of those inestible blessings bestowed upon us. And as
we have reason to fear that unless we become a
penitent and reform people, we shall still feel severer tokens
of his testy pleasure. Now right now, Boston is under siege,
and the Americans are running and hiding from the British
up in Massachusetts, and George Washington is on his way

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with an army to help break the siege of Boston,
which eventually he did. And as the most effectual way
to escape those desolating judgments which so evidently hang over
as it may obtain the restoration of our formal tranquility
will be that we repent and return everyone from the
iniquities unto Him that correct with us, which if we
do in sincerity and truth, we have no reason to doubt.

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But he will remove his judgments, cause our enemies to
be at peace with us, and prosper the work of
our hands. And then he goes on to talk about
how they are violating the Sabbath day. They're not trust
respecting God on Sunday and going to church and doing
the right thing. He's talking. This is to his army
that he's sending this to, and to the Congress of

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the time in Massachusetts. In Massachusets Congress, it is therefore
resolved that it be recommended by this Congress to the
people of all ranks and denominations throughout the colony that
they not only pay a religious regard to that day
and to the public worship of God thereon, but that

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they also use their influence to discountenance and suppress any
proformations thereof in others. It is therefore resolved, further resolved,
that it be recommended to the ministers of the Gospel
to read the resolved to their several congregations a company
with such exhortations as they shall think proper. And whereas

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there is a great danger that the proformation being profaning
the Lord's Day, will prevail in the camp, the military camp,
we earnestly recommend to all the officers military officers not
only to get set good example, but that they strictly
require of their soldiers to keep up a religious regard
to the day and attend upon the public worship of

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God thereon, so far as maybe consistent with other duties.
Now this was sent again, like I said, to their
congress in Massachusetts, plus to their military there. These were
hardcore folks. You think they wanted to keept God on
a government some kind of way. If you believe that,
you just I don't know what you're thinking. I don't
know where you are. You can see how extreme they were.

(46:22):
They were as serious as you can get. Folks, Like
they say they were as serious as a heart attack.
But folks, what about you. You could be close to
a heart attack. I've been several times. I know what
it's like. I've come very close to death and actually
was a happy time for me because all I could
think is I'm going to glory. I hope everybody has
that experience that when it comes close to your time
to leave the planet, you're gonna be rejoicing over it

(46:44):
because you know you're going to heaven. You may not
know how to do that yet. So right now we're
gonna take just a brief moment for me to show
you how you can know that. You know that, you
know when you die you're going to heaven. You're saved
from a burning hell and going to heaven. And it
goes like this, remember he mentioned we're a penting. Well,
this is what biblical repentance, Salvafic repentance is, according to

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the Gospel, meaning going to heaven. This is what repentance is.
It's to change your mind. It's to decide, at some
time in your life you're hopeless and help us without
God destined to burning hell, and before your creator, you're
nothing but a loser, a bum, and no good, and
that's all you are. The script says, the heart is
deceitful and desperately wicked above all things. Who can know it?

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You don't even know how bad you are. Neither do I.
I think God does that purposely as an act of mercy.
If I could see how bad I really am as
God sees me, or any of us, we might just
drop dead from the shock. It'd be so extreme. So, folks,
you can't save yourself. And when you realize that, that's
called repentance. It's something that takes place in your heart

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and your mind. It's an act of faith. It's not
turning from your sins, cleaning up your life, saying special prayers,
walking the aisle, handing out gospel tracks, singing a choir,
giving money to the church. There's so many things you
can think of. One of that. It's not your religion.
Your religion is your works, your good works, and those
are good. Good works are important. I'm not against them,
but they come after you're born again, after you were saved.

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The word born again means your dead and down in
spirit has become fully alive. Jesus said, you must be
born again if you're going to heaven. So, folks, you've
got to repent. You've got to believe you can't save yourself.
That's the first step. Next step, believe that only Jesus
can will and did save you from a burning hell
and guarantee you ever last in life because He did

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die for all of your sins. And the day you're born,
of the day you die, your time, it's the greatest sins.
They all went on Jesus, and he paid for all
your sins. The split second you believe that, the split
second you know that you're going to heaven, you're guaranteed heaven.
You've just been born again. But you couldn't believe that
only Jesus could save you if first of all, you
believe that only you cannot save yourself, because you did

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that in repentance, when you realize just how lost and
incapable you are to work your way to heaven, you'll
never be able to do it. So give it up,
let go and let God, and the split second to
do that, you're guaranteed heaven. Folks, you become God's child.
The moment you believe that this is a great passage.
He that neew knowes sin. That's Jesus was made sin.

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He was turned into all your dirty rotten sins. Think
of that, all of them, for the day you're born
and the day you die, you tiny, it's the greatest sins.
They all went on Jesus. They went in him, and
he was turned into your dirty rotten mind too, all
of our dirty rotten sins, that you might be made
the righteousness of God in him. He took all your
bad to give you all his good. Folks. That's powerful.
I don't know how you can miss it. I don't

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know how you can turn away from it. I don't
know how you can reject it. But if you do
reject it, and you keep rejecting it till the day
you die, then there's no hope for you. You will be
going to an eternity in a burning hell, and a
hope that never happens to you. Right now, folks, just
with childlike faith, put faith alone in Christ alone. Believe
that He really did die for all your sins, was

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buried and rose in the dead. Well, folks, it's not
time for us to go into our testimony time where
we just take a brief moment to tell you a
story about somebody from the past or even somebody living
today who's had a great story of his life. Is
a great story, a great life story. And today we're
going to talk about a man named one of my favorites,
Charles Wesley. He became well known through what was known

(50:17):
as the Great Awakening, and we've been talking about that
on this show, and they just had a great movie
on it called A Great Awakening. Folks. Charles Wesley was
one of the most prolific hymn writers in the history
of the world. He's second only to another great gal
who was just a tremendous hymn writer. She was blind,

(50:38):
in fact, couldn't see, and she became one of the greatest,
the most prolific hymn writer of all times. But Charles
Wesley was a brother of John Wesley. They were both
great evangelists. Great I mean they would draw crowds, just
like George Whitfield twenty to thirty thousand at a time.
In fact, it was George Whitfield who went and pulled
them out of the church. They thought they could only
do their work inside of a church. He said, you

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can go anywhere you go to the highways and the byways,
as description says, and people will become Christians, they'll be
born again, and you can even baptize them there. And
so they started doing that and before you knew it,
they had a huge impact on the colonies. This was
from like the forties through the fifties or the thirties,
through the close to the fifties and seventeen thirties and

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all over the British Isilds and even into Europe. I mean,
this is one of the most amazing events in church history.
It turned the world upside down. He gave America to
believed by for decades the centuries. American historians said that
was what gave the American people the backbone and the
wisdom to take on the most powerful nation in the world,
the most powerful empire of the British Empire. There's no
way we could have win that thing. He wrote so

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many great hymns, folks. He wrote, Hark the Heart Herald Angels,
General Jesus meek and mild soldiers of the Cross, the
rise Jesus, the Lover of my soul. You know, Christ
has risen today. They're just so many great hymns he wrote,
what an amazing story, what an amazing testimony. Charles Wesley,
a Church of England preacher, went to Oxford with classmates,

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with his brother John, and with George Whitfield. And remember
one of the things that started this was a little
church meeting over there in Czechoslovakia, in Moravia, where a
man named Zisendorf had decided to turn his life and
his wealth over to God. He had a great estate
and he gathered people from all over year from all backgrounds, Catholics, presents, Orthodox,
even Jews, all kinds of people came to his estate

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where they dedicated themselves to God and dedicated themselves to
going out and completing the great commission that meant to
preach the Gospel and reach people with for salvation and
for growth in their faith. And it all started in
that little church where he gathered everybody together and they
had a prayer meet in that night. Do you know
how long that prayer meeting lasted? One hundred years and

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look at the impact it had. And Charles Wesley was
part of that. Well, folks, if you want to be
part of it, you need to come to Christ and
know that He's your saved. You believe he died for
your sins and roast and the dead. And then, folks,
you need to get out there and start preaching the
gospel serving God. You can do all that right now, folks,
but first trust Christ. Believe he died for all your sins.

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What's better than ROAs in the dead. Well, it's time
for us to go now. As we close with them,
I'm Saint Martin singing a Creole goodbye, and God bless
all out there. We call you creel goodbye.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Please think we just wasted time, all three sibl of me.
There's time for a Creo goodbye.