USA Marks 250 Years; Candidates Turn Focus To November

Hy and Christopher take on the 250th birthday of the United States, and we discussed whether the term “evil” should be used against one’s political opponents. However, most of the discussion on this edition of the Founders’ Show centers around the results of the June 27, 2026 runoffs. Letlow, Cao, and Hilferty won their respective GOP Primaries, but John Young may be the first true victim of the new closed primary system.

The June 27, 2026 runoffs demonstrated the political strength of Gov. Jeff Landry, the comparative weakness of the LA Republican activist grassroots in relaying a message to the general public, and the dominance of the party’s establishment at delivering the result that Republican party leadership sought. Voter turnout proved anemic on June 27, amounting to just 17 percent of registered voters according to Ed Chervenak, a political science professor at the University of New Orleans, down from 28 percent in the May primary. In theory, fewer voters should have aided the GOP activist base in their effort to defy the LAGOP establishment and Donald Trump. Instead, Jeff Landry’s support along with President Trump’s thwarted what looked like a last-minute grassroots surge for LA State Treasurer John Fleming, delivering a 57-43 victory for US Rep. Julia Letlow over him, or a margin of 43,411 votes statewide in GOP Senate runoff.

More particularly, Fleming lost the core of his one-time congressional district in Shreveport, losing Caddo Parish to Letlow 48-52 and literally tying the Congresswoman in Bossier Parish at 4351 votes each. Conversely, Letlow won every parish in her 5th Congressional District—and most everywhere else outside LA’s 4th Congressional District except for Orleans Parish. Throughout the runoff, the Fleming campaign had excelled in earning local and parish party endorsements. His supporters even blocked a Republican State Central Committee endorsement for Letlow, despite the governor’s and the president’s active pressure. Nevertheless, endorsements from elected officials from the White House-on-down proved enough to sway most of the GOP and “no-party” electorate to vote for Letlow in the closed primary runoff.

A similar, but much closer result provided a victory to interim BESE member (and former 2nd District Congressman) Joseph Cao. He beat fellow Republican Ellie Schroder for the multi-parish Board of Elementary and Secondary Education position despite the fact she was the well-known wife of a former State Representative and State Treasurer—with much of the same grassroots support (often the same people) as Fleming—but without Donald Trump‘s personal intervention.

The President demurred from picking a favorite in the open Public Service Commissioner’s contest to replace the term limited Eric Skrmetta as well. As such, eight out of ten of the Republican Parish Political Executive Committees (which comprise the GOP-leaning PSC District) endorsed John Young, the former Jefferson Parish President. Conversely, almost all of the elected officials lined up behind his opponent State Rep. Stephanie Hilferty (R-New Orleans), even some of Young’s oldest political allies.

The reason centered on the influence of one man, River Birch owner Fred Heebe, and his vendetta against Young. As Jefferson President, Young had canceled the trash-magnate’s contract to to assume control over the Jefferson Parish landfill, as an independent study had said that River Birch’s contract would raise garbage rates for the average homeowner. Heebe never forgave Young for the loss of his company’s lucrative contract, and the River Birch owner subsequently spent over $3.5 million in independent PAC expenditures to defeat Young in his last three bids for public office. In the PSC race alone, Heebe spent $1.2 million in attack ads against Young and reportedly used his influence with local elected officials to endorse the (admittedly already popular with her colleagues) Hilferty over Young.

Ironically, Young, who had kept garbage rates and other governmental consumer fees low during his time in Jefferson Parish government came to be perceived as the candidate who would raise utility rates because of the contributions that Young received from Louisiana-based utility companies. The fact that Hilferty earned contributions from many of these same utilities was left relatively unreported in the torrent of negative advertising which descended upon Young.

Ultimately, Young lost on June 27, receiving approximately the same vote that he earned in the primary, 29,801 versus 29,459 in runoff. He only lost 342 votes overall, despite the fact that 16,890 fewer people voted in the runoff. Instead, Hilferty gained almost all of the votes which went to third place primary finisher Mark Wright, winning 49,047 votes in the

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Battles, the politicians, the press of digitators and magicians. First
to see the money, then you don't, there's nothing to
fill the holes? Well, then are filling their pockets bid holes,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Everybody's wition for no moment,

(00:25):
corruption and its functional It's gone. I take divine it ofvention.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Did the close primary claim its first victim in the
June twenty seventh runoff elections? Or did a flood of
dark money actually claim an incumbent? And in the Senate
race did the activists really reject Julia Letlow? All this
at this edition of the Founder's Show.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
And God bless all out there you are now listening
to the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
You're Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up

(01:13):
on top of that old liberty cypress tree draped in
Spanish moss, way out on the Eagles Branch, it's none
other than your spenary Baba of the Republic, Chaplain Hi mcenry.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
With Christopher Tidmore, your Roving reporter, resident Radical moderate and
associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly
dot net. And we have to start off with the
election results from the June twenty seventh election before we
talk about and celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
And there were a few surprises, a few things that

(01:45):
came in. A lot of the supporters of John Fleming
thought that he was on a momentum to be able
to beat Julia Letlow. A lot of the supporters of
John Young thought he was in a much closer race
and it was going to be neck and neck with
Stephanie Hilly, and a lot of supporters of Ellie Schroeder,
the wife of former State rep former elected official John Schroeder,

(02:07):
thought she was going to beat Joseph Goal.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Of course, all of those ideas were thwarted, but for
different reasons that aren't totally separate from one another. And
just as a little interesting sidebar, I walked in so
Hi and I that the morning of the election had
to do a big photograph for the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary for the Sons of the Revolution in front

(02:29):
of the statue of Thomas Jefferson at Jefferson at the
Jefferson Government Center, Jefferson Parish Government Center. And so we're
there and I happened to go in and ask what
the turnout was. Now, I've been calling precincts all that
morning of the twenty seventh and asking what turnout was
and tracking with people, and it had been low. Well,
the Government Center usually has a higher turnout because it's

(02:50):
a large precinct. It's a precinct for basically all of you,
downtown Gretna, all of mcdonaldville, so and so forth. It
only had twelve people at ten o'clock in the morning.
And that told me that that was going to have
an interesting effect on the election. That most of the
votes that we saw in were going to be a

(03:11):
disproportion not most, a disproportionate number of the votes We're
going to have to do with early voting. So when
eight o'clock rolls around, I'm driving to actually John Young's
election night party, and I'm checking on my phone. I
don't do this, folks, but I'm checking on my phone
as I drive what the secretary of State's office comes

(03:34):
in And immediately I come across the first results, and
the first results I saw were essentially Julia Letlowe leading
John Fleming fifty five to forty five. When early vote
came in and I said, Okay, Fleming's done well. iMedia
go to the party and there's a lot of Fleming enthusiasts,
And if you've been following the US Senate race, basically

(03:56):
this is how it boiled down. The elected official and
President Trump obviously were behind Julia Letlo. There was this
idea that President Trump really didn't want to endorse Julia Letlo,
he got mad at There's no evidence of that. He
was pretty consistent and in point of fact, a week
before the election, Julia Letlo had a big press event
in New Orleans and premiered a video that went viral

(04:17):
of Donald Trump endorsing her a week before the election
and talking about her. But John Fleming was overwhelmingly the
choice of the activist and he was putting a lot
of his own money into it, as well as a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Of raised money.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Woody Jenkins and a lot of the local party infrastructures
had endorsed him, and in fact, he had stopped an
official endorsement by the Republican State Central Committee for Julia Letlo,
even though the governor really put it down saying it
so he had the activist vote. What that meant was
that John Fleming had to win the early voting because

(04:54):
you think about this, logically, folks who votes in early voting,
more motivated voters are going to go down to their
local city halls voter registration offices. They're gonna do it,
and more and more early voting is becoming a huge,
much bigger part of our elections.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So he was gonna come in.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
When I saw that Julia Letlow was leading, even though
the numbers of votes weren't overwhelming, I said, it's only
going to get worse. And I looked at this and
I was like, it's only gonna get worse. Then I
happened to be remember I was going to John Young's
victory party, or Zoe thought. Then I looked at the
early voting for Stephanie Hilfreddy versus John Young, and Stephanie

(05:35):
Hilfreddy was winning the early voting, and I said, John
Young is in serious trouble. And in point of fact,
what really proved his detriment is that John Young lost
his home parish of Jefferson fifty six forty four, you know,
or thirty three eighty two to twenty six twenty one.

(05:56):
And I have a couple of theories onto why that
that I'll get in a second. And the success of
Stephanie hilforty and I offer her congratulations. She didn't ran
a textbook campaign, but she had a little help, or
at least one point two million dollars worth of help
from Fred Habey. But she also had help in the
fact that the closed primary affects certain candidates negatively, it's

(06:16):
just like it helps other candidates. So not to jump
all over the place. Let's get back to the Senate race.
The Senate contest, the activists were all in shock that
Fleming was doing as badly as he was, but I wasn't.
I fully said that if turnout was higher on election day,

(06:37):
Julia Letloe was going to carry it away. But I
thought it would be pretty tight, pretty close. If it didn't, well,
that didn't turn out to be the thing. And it
has to do with the fact of how the endorsements
go in these races, and it's going to tell us
a lot about the down ticket races as well. Usually
the activists in a low turnout election will be disproportionately strong.
And for the most part, every parish, a lot of

(06:59):
the parish pecks the Republic. They're the parish parties. Republican
Political Executive Committee is what it stands for. The parish
parties were supporting Fleming over Letlow. Well, as it turns out, basically,
the governor's endorsement and the president's endorsement are a lot
stronger and more importantly, and this is the part that
gets it. Julia Letlow is very popular in her congressional district.

(07:23):
So one of the unsung and unobserved things is the
reason she came to New Orleans in the beginning of
the week of the final week of her election was
the Farmers, the Farm Bureau, the Farm Convention was happening
in metropolitan New Orleans. I'm not really sure how why
it was happening in metropolitan New Orleans, but I had

(07:43):
friends who were there. And this is a big constituency.
And for those that don't know, Julia Letlow represents a
district that goes from Baton Rouge along the Mississippi River
up to Monroe.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Of course, for we're the largest import export of grains
in the world. Here in New Orleans. So that has
a lot to do with Farman.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Have you ever tried to get North Louisianans to drive
to New Orleans and especially Farmers, which you say is correct,
I'm not arguing the.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Point in convention. I think they would drive, you know,
four five six hours.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, regardless, she walks in as a rock star, she's
got the role vote and that was a good indication
to me that Fleming was in trouble. And actually the
post election numbers seemed to reflect that. If you look
at Fleming's result. Now, for those that don't remember this,
John Fleming used to be a congressman. He represented the
same district that Mike Johnson now represents Speaker Mike Johnson. Effectively,

(08:33):
it's a little different than in Strawant, but it's basically
the same district, the fourth Congressional district. And if you
look at parishes, turnout was absurdly low. But if you
look at parishes where he should have won Nacottish Parish,
John Fleming beat Julia Letlow fifty one forty nine. Now
it's only about twelve hundred votes each, but I mean
the fact eleven to eleven seventy nine. But the fact

(08:56):
of the matter is the Nacottish parish, Nacotish Louisiana was
the core of his congressional district, Rapid's Parish. She Fleming
did win, but it was only fifty five forty five
in occurrent. But the real indications were Cato and Bosure.
Kato and Bosure is Shreeport. Kato is to Bosure what

(09:16):
Orleans is to Jefferson is a way of explaining it.
And in his core city, the city from whence he
hailed that he practiced medicine, and for decades he lost
to Julia Letlow fifty two to forty eight in Cato
and fifty to fifty in Bosure. In fact, it's the
only time I've ever seen an exact tie forty three

(09:39):
fifty one to forty three fifty one. Where is the
parishes in her district she won overwhelmingly. The coastal parishes
she won overwhelmingly. The metro New Orleans area she won overwhelmingly.
So in the end it was no matter how good
your activists are, numbers matter, and the overall numbers well.
The kind of reverse happened in the psc RS, so

(10:00):
in the public service Commissioner race. John Young, the former
parish president Jefferson Parish, who is run statewide before for
Lieutenant governor, had a higher profile than Stephanie Hilfredy. Stephanie
Hilfredy is a state rep. Who represents Lakeview Lake Vista
in Orleans and Bucktown in Jefferson Parish. And in fact,
very little of her State Rep district is in the

(10:21):
Public Service commission district that she was running only a
really small piece of Lakeview and the rest in Bucktown,
so she didn't even have the power any power of incumbency.
By basic math, Young should have an advantage in this race. Well,
there are two things that happened. One that Stephanie Hilfordy

(10:43):
earned the endorsement of most of the elected officials. Now
this is kind of interesting because John Young got almost
every parish party. There are pecks we talked about the
political Executive Committee. He won eight out of ten of them.
He had the institutional and activist support. The difference in
this race is for one thing, the governor and the
President were not throwing their two cents in. But there

(11:04):
was another one and his name is Fred Hebey. But
Fred Hebey put one point two million dollars to defeat
John Young. Fred Hebey is the owner of River Birch,
which is one of the landfill companies, and he has
spent over the last three elections, John Young has run
for three point five million dollars. You heard that correctly,

(11:27):
three and a half million dollars to defeat a candidate
for lieutenant governor, Public Service Commission and parish president respectively.
And why, well, the why kind of gets I find fascinating.
So a lot of the negative ads that had a
negative impression on Young was that he was too close

(11:47):
to utility companies. He had taken a lot of contributions
from the various utility companies entergy, Clico, Magnolia Water, but
then again so at Hilferdy. In many cases, the difference
was that he was thought of as too close to
the utility companies. And what was interesting about this was
utility rates that were under his control when he was

(12:09):
parish president actually fell and didn't increase. And one of
those is garbage rates. And the reason the garbage rates
did not rise while he was parish president was and
this gets back Fred Hebey's company, River Birch, had the
contract on the Jefferson Parish landfill.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
They're dump.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Jefferson Parish owns its own dump, and it's one of
the reasons why Jefferson Parish has lower actual garbage rates
than surrounding parishes like Orleans. It's actually socialism, if you
want to get right down to it. Jefferson owns its
own process. But regardless that you look at it. Before
John came into office, the previous parish president, Mike Yenny,

(12:47):
had awarded a contract to River Birch to manage and
eventually purchase the landfill. Young had an independent study done
saying that this is going to cost us money long term.
This is not a good contract, and so he canceled.
The contract was a very lucrative contract. Fred Heeby lost
a lot of money. Now this wasn't an isolated incident.

(13:07):
I saw Young do this in several things. One of
the examples was the traffic cameras. You know how the
traffic cameras catch you and get tickets. That's never happened
in Jefferson. And the reason is, even though they built
all the traffic cameras in Jefferson, it was actually a
company run by a former New Orleans City councilor has
passed away. Now Brian Wagner, a Republican councilman. Young came
into office. He was elected in a special election, so

(13:29):
he's elected in the middle after a big political scandal
Mike Enny. You might remember, is he comes into office
and he says, I hate traffic cameras and I don't
care if they're going to make us money. People hate
traffic cameras. It's not fair. And so he cancels the
contract and Brian Wagner came to me furious, saying we
had an agreement, we had done this, We'd spent all
this money.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
He just cancels it.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Young's attitude is, I don't care how politically connected you are, Brian,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
This is bad for people. I'm not going to do this.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
He did the same thing to Fred Hebey. Well, Brian
Wagner passed away and wasn't the ventul soul. Fred Heebee, however,
has spent three and a half million dollars in independent
political action committees literally dark money, to go forward and
take down Young's various campaigns one point two million dollars
in this psc race. That's more than the other candidates

(14:18):
put together. And so social media, television, everything was besieged
by these. John Young is a creature of the utility companies,
particularly conflict with Magnolia Water and dirty water. And I'm
looking at this, I'm saying, well, both candidates took money
from it. They did, but it shows you that someone
with a higher name recognition, a higher appreciation could lose.

(14:41):
And Stephanie Hilfredy, to her credit, she's not particularly close
to fred Heebey.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
She didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
He didn't do this to help her. He did this
because he ate it. She's actually a very nice person
and a competent legislator and generally well liked by her
colleagues who knew her well, even if the general public didn't,
so they didn't have a problem, including some very prominent
Jefferson Parish officials Sheriff Joe Lopinto and others who backed
her campaign. So in the end, the final results for

(15:09):
John Young, which was basically sixty two thirty eight actual
actually sixty two point five to thirty seven point five
come out because it shows that money actually has if
no other factors are playing in a massive impact on voting.
The third state wide race or multi parish racer should
say that is going in was the one that surprised

(15:31):
a lot of the activists. And that's of course for
the Board of Elementary and Secondary Education. This is our
state school board and a lot of our funding. As
we've seen with the whole thing with the teacher pay
in the minimum foundation formula. We have a very state
oriented system. This is an important job. You had the
wife of a former state representative and elected official Treasurer,
John Schroeder running Ellie Schroeder, very well known in Republican

(15:55):
activist circles versus Joseph Gou. Joseph Gou, of course former
co wishman, but also somebody who has mixed reproblemly, very
well personally liked, but also somebody who voted for Obamacare
the first time around. So some Republicans have never forgiven
him for that, even though the first bill was very
different from the second bill. But that's another argument. But
what Joseph Gou had very clearly was the endorsement of

(16:20):
Jeff Landry. Jeff Landry had appointed him to the unexpired
term on the Bessie Board. He's running for a full term,
and the governor's influence ended up having him beat the
activist influence by a narrow part and the interesting part
of this election. My final tote is my final two
conclusions are this Hi. First, Jeff Landry, everybody thought he

(16:40):
was weak, He's not. If you look at the races
where he put his influence, that's the Senate and Bessie.
He didn't really get involved in the PSC one way
or another. His influence had a massive thing, and he
was being openly attacked by activists saying, Jeff Landry, Julia Letlo's,
Jeff Landry's catted, Jeff Landry's running your campaign.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That didn't prove to be a next And I don't
really think it was fair, but that's what it is.
But the other part that was interesting is if I
look at these races, Gal would have probably done better
in an open primary. Some Democrats would have supported him.
Democrats couldn't vote into close primary.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Julia Letlow.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I don't know how that would have been, but I
can't believe based on what I saw the way the
election went, maybe Fleming would have taken a whole different
political tactic that it would have affected much. Julia Letlow
was pretty bipartisanly popular, even with the Trump endorsement. But
the race where it really matters John Young versus Stephanie
Hilfredy Stephanie hilfrity. People said, well, she had more Democrat

(17:38):
elected officials endorsing, or she's from Orleans. Yeah, but the
race she ran was very much a Republican activist race.
And John Young ran a general election race which he
had been very successful in his previous contest, and he
had the endorsement of the FLCIO, had endorsement of Union's,
had endorsement of a lot of activist base. And I
think if Democrats and independ if everybody could have voted,

(18:00):
if this would have been a normal October primary, open primary,
this race would have been very tight. Young might have
pulled it off. It wouldn't have been the blowout that
we saw. That's no disrespect to Stephanie Hilfretty. She ran
a textbook campaign. She did a brilliant job, and she's
going to face a token opponent and Mission and Miss

(18:21):
Simon in the general election. But the fact of the
matter is it was us. I don't think it would
have affected the other two races, but it definitely affected
the PSC race and a lot of people that that night,
were asking me, I understand why they did this for
the Senate and House, but why did they do this
for the PSC? And I was trying to explain this
to people, and it's basically, well, Jeff Landry wanted to

(18:42):
do it for everybody, and this was the compromise. But
in the end, how the elections went by is because
we betrayed the message of the founders and the Constitution
and we went back to faction rather than the open election.
We'll talk about that a little bit on today's show.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Hia analysis of these recent racist Christopher and the big
thing is, now, how do you think you've already told
us about the Public Service Commission? But the other races,
how do you think they'll turn out? You think you
know who'll win the Senate. I'm sure it'll be a Republican,
but we got it. Don't don't take anything for granted, folks,

(19:19):
and don't lay down on this. And we've got to
work harder than ever to save our legislature in d C,
the Senate, in Congress, uh, and and prevent another bogus
impeachment on Trump, which just messes everything up, delays everything.
All these great things he's doing it's just going to
slow it down and mess it up, and they know
that that's why they do it. It's all bogus, it's

(19:41):
based on nothing. It's a farce. It's one of the
biggest judicial farces that's ever happened. And so we're looking
forward to to figuring out what the future is going
to be with these elections. I mean, you know these
candidates and the final election coming in November. So I'm
sure Chris for you have some insight on the and
what do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, simple answer is the Republicans are toast in the
United States has representatives, but here in Louisiana they're strong.
The fact of the matter is that Julia Letlow is
running against a man by the name of Jamie Davis.
He's he's a very thoughtful he's a farmer, African American farmer.
He's able to speak a much more broader language than

(20:23):
most Democratic candidates.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
But he's still toast.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
He almost won it in the first against against a
very well funded white Democrat who had a lot of
political support, including John Bell Edwards, and it showed the
strength of his activist support in the party's He talked
to us in the Louisiana Weekly. He's very articulate having
said that he's not gonna have any money. There's not
going to be a national Democratic money behind him. He's

(20:48):
an African American candidate running in Louisiana, which doesn't have
a really great track record in that Julia Letlow's this
is going to be a coronation, not an election. Joseph
GalF for the most part, is gonna is gonna walk
into re election. There really isn't a Democrat in that race.
In the Public Service Commission race, there is going to
be an election. Stephanie fil Free to have to run it.
But this is an overwhelmingly This is an R plus

(21:08):
twenty three seat. That means it's Republican by twenty three seats.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Nationally, Trump's latest opinion poll ratings are a negative a
sixty one percent negative. Democrats are up in the generic
ballot by ten points. In each of the key districts
that are that are up for grabs, Democrats are leading
in by eight to ten points. The United States House
of Representatives in a average election, with every election, every

(21:35):
midterm election except twoeteen ninety six, nineteen ninety eight, and
two thousand and two. Accepting those two elections, which had
very specific circumstances, the president in power typically loses thirty
to forty seats in the House of Representatives. Right now,
the Republican majority is two. The chances of the Republicans

(21:58):
and Mike Johnson Paint retaining the House of Representatives exists
somewhere between uh negative and non existent. The Senate is
a different circumstance and the Senate. In order for the
Democrats to win the Senate, they have to win both
Georgia and Maine. They have to re elect uh there. Uh,
They're there, the African American senator from Georgia, and uh

(22:23):
and elect Graham Plattner. That is a much tougher path
because Georgia, all things being equal, much more progressive Southern
state and Louisiana on political terms. That's not a values comment,
it's just Democrats can do better there. It's and the
candidate is much better. He's the he's the former, he's
the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church, which is was Martin

(22:45):
Luther King's Church, and.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
So and so forth.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
But still it's a it's a long road. Graham Platner
and Frankly has been writing himself out of the political narrative.
It started with his Nazi tattoo and then went to
text to the other dozen women and running against Susan
co Hollins, who is arguably every Democrat's favorite Republican is
a formidable task. So to answer your point about Trump,

(23:09):
Trump's can get impeached again, but he won't be convicted
and we're just going to go through this Kabooki dance
all over again. So that's the answer to your question.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
And then sick how Democrats do such wicked things like that.
This is a totally bogus work they're doing the impeachment.
The ones they did so far were totally bogus, and
it proven so in so many ways. And folks, the
Democrat Party, they're evil. They're just done right evil. They're

(23:38):
rejoicing over a Nazi candidate right now. I mean, come on,
they're just pure evil. What do they ever do that's good?
Right now? They're turning the entire Democrat Party into a
communist party right now, can't you see it. It's unbelievable
what these people are doing. So you better pray for America.
It's our two hundred and fiftieth. We don't want to
lose it on our two hundred and fifty first, so
that's actually interesting.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
We Hy has brought up something very interesting, as we
mentioned it last week, Mandami three of his candidates that
are openly members of the Democratic Socialist One there's a
primary in Colorado where a candidate who wants to abolish
ice and have medicare for all openly socialists. This is
not an appoitaph. That's what they call themselves. And it

(24:20):
was interesting to see for the first time I've heard
a good political strategy out of Donald Trump in a
while now up until Kai's laughing, but I'm actually a
compliment him in a second. The last few weeks, if
you were trying to if you were trying to devise
a political strategy for the midterms, one that was not
good was to say, a housing affordability bill that has

(24:43):
all the Republicans behind it, I will veto it in
favor of you getting rid of the filibuster to pass
the Safe Act. Look, I agree with Vote ii D
for people. It has eighty percent support. But the fact
of the matter is killing the filibuster. As we will
talk about after the break, is is not an answer
to that, because God help us if the Democrats win

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the House at the Senate. But Donald Trump came out
and said something very wise, and if this is a
political strategy, it might actually be an effective one. What
he said was, rather than railing, he said, you know,
people like communism when it first comes about, seems really good,
seems like a really we graz and then about three

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years later, when they were living in a third world
country and they're starving to death, they don't like.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
It so much.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
That is actually a pretty wise counter attack at Democrats,
because Democrats right now don't know what to do. I
said this last week and I'm saying this again. One
of the things that's happening is Hakim Jeffers, who's a
very smart political operative. He is a New York congressman.
He is being defeated in his backyard by someone Kkiem. Jeffers,

(25:51):
by the way, is a pretty in classical political terms,
is on the center left. He's not a socialist, he's
not anywhere near close to what these guys are. And
he is the next speaker, presumably, And I say that
presumably because what he's facing is candidates that are just
as reactive against him, as the Freedom Caucus was against

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Kevin McCarthy, and so he's got a problem about the
Democratic Party. The only way he loses this election for
the House, not the Senate, for the House is if
the Democrats are perceived as a socialist party, and increasingly
as a socialist party, and there's compelling evidence. And this
is where I'm getting in these closed primaries. This is

(26:34):
what I hate close primaries about. And we'll talk about
it after break. This is a situation where socialists are
taking over the Democrats like Maga took over the Republicans.
And it's I use the metaphor, thank you, Danny Simone.
It's like Thelman Louise driving the convertible over the cliff,
and Maga's Thelma Socialist or Luise, and we're the convertible.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
And by the way, folks, when they say democrats social
list all around the world, for the past one hundred years,
every time that term was used, that were either describing
communists or Nazis or fascists, because they're all basically the
same group. So folks, they're calling themselves democrats socials. Let
me tell you one of the big problems with the
left when you go to the left. As far as
the Democrats have gone, it's a slippery slide right now.

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They're all sliding into the Communist party, will like it
or not. Can you notice that now the people who
are like running things are the communists in the Democrat Party,
and the rest of them are calton. They're just giving
in to them, letting them run the show. Folks, this
is a dangerous time for America. If you love America
and you're a real patriot, you better remember that God

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is looking and he's the one who controls nations. We don't,
so we better get right with God on this and
make sure we put in men and women of God
who want to truly be true to the Bible. And
what they're doing, folks, it's a very our biblical principle.
Some people they may not know the Bible, believe it
or not, they're still following biblical principles. So, folks, it

(28:03):
is time now for us to take a break and
we'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
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civil rights movement. All of this available through the year
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Speaker 3 (28:51):
Folks's Chapaham mc henry and again, welcome to our two
hundred and fiftieth where America was founded upon Biblical principles
and why we have such a great country versus the
French Revolution founded on anti God, anti Christ principles. Interesting
in it and it was a disaster. It led to
what they call the Terror where there was a mass

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slaughter of Frenchmen, just innocent people being slaughtered for no reason.
It's just horrible what happened in the French Revolution and
drove them into poverty and everything destroyed them. So, folks
that we have a very biblical, well founded country and
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Speaker 2 (32:33):
Christopher Tidmore and folks, I think it's worth looking at
a bigger issue. I mentioned the French Revolution versus the
American Revolution, and the fact of the matter is how
our nomenclature is wrong. The American Revolution was not a revolution,
and this is what's important. French Revolution was a revolution.

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They tried to eliminate everything that existed before the American Americans.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Did not have a.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
We had a war of independence. We were trying to
establish the systems that existed prior to parliamentary overreach. And
why do I bring that up Because one of the
great success of our founders is not that they just
fought for their independence, just that they fought the British.
Anybody can fight anybody and maybe they win, maybe they lose.

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What did our founders do? They looked at the existing
traditions of history and they created a system that was
the closest idea of phasing the existing English political parliamentary
system with the idea of federal system and representation. That's
the great success of the Constitution. The declaration of Independence,

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by the way, which does make a statement of providence,
was a statement made to tell the world why this
was a moral action. And this is why perhaps I
get a little thing when one side or the other
Democrats do it too. By the way, calls the other
one evil in America. This is how we are having

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a problem in America. Call someone wrongheaded, call someone stupid,
call someone their pathway will lead America to terrible results,
to terrible praditions. But remember we're all Americans, and when
it comes right down to it, we have a difference
of opinion, a very strong difference of opinion, but a

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difference of opinion. A person's not evil because they disagree
with you politically. And when you start thinking that how
you start you end up in a situation where an
evil person. This is and let me explain this. This
is what they did during the French Revolution, starting with
the Jacobins. They looked at the Gerardist as saying they

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were evil because they had some connection to parliament, to
constitutional monarchy. Well, when somebody is evil, you can chop
their head off because they're evil, you can't render. There
are truly evil people in this world. There are hitlers,
there are Stalins, there are mumbabees, there are castros. But

(35:16):
a person who wants medicare for all might be stupid,
but not evil. And we've got to be really careful
or for a person who wants lower tax cuts and
more protections trade policy is not evil. Or person wants
to protect our borders because they want to have Americans
assimilate is not evil. Or a person who believes that
we should welcome in refugees is not evil. They may

(35:38):
be wrong, their policies may be wrong, but they're not evil.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Christopher, the Bible uses the word evil, and I'm a preacher,
and what it means is you're wrong, you're bad, You're
serving the devil. That's what it means. And so I
believe these people are. I mean I genuinely believe that.
And if you study the works of our finding fathers,
they use that word often. They used. In fact, there's
their speeches and their actions were filled with biblical messages

(36:05):
and biblical words. They absolutely were. And folks, the way
we know they're evil is evil does as evil is
as evil does. So I've seen. It means you're being bad,
you're doing something really wrong. No, if you want to
let refugees, and I mean we want to do that,
that's fine. Real refugees, not just people who are trying

(36:27):
to get a new life because the life is better
here than their own country. No, not that refugees are
running for their lives. That's acceptable. Take note, by the way,
when Trump let in the South Africa and they were
really refugees because they're slaughtering the white people in South Africa.
Right now, they were fleeing for their lives. You know,
the Democrats tried to stop that. That's evil. To me,
that's very evil. And I've seen it over and over

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and over again from the Democrat Party. The fact that
they're trying to destroy good functional government by impeachments that
are all bogus evil. To me, that's wicked, it's wrong,
and there's no excuse for this other fact that they're
like right now they're promoting a big time promoting a Nazi.
That's evil. I'm sorry, but it is is good and evil,

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like the Bible says, in the world, and we need
to be able to discern and figure out what is
so we can make the right choices. So, Christopher, what's
your next topic?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
And you understand that you're a fellow American and evil
is a pejorative term, whereas last time I checked, the
Bible that I read talks about sin. Sin is separation
from God. Evil is the utter rejection of God.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
You're wrong on that, Christopher, and I am the theologian here,
I'm sorry, and the reasonably advanced student of the Scripture.
I don't think anybody masters the scriptures, but the scriptures
are supposed to master you. But I have been studying
the Bible since that's five years old, so I kind
of have a head start on Christopher and many people
because they just don't study the Bible, which they did. Yes,

(38:01):
the Bible makes it very clear that there is evil,
and evil is when it's not just sinning. Oh, there's sinning.
And now the ultimate sin, and this is a great warning.
It's called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. And that's when
you take unbelief to its final state of a complete
and total rejection of God. Well, there are other forms

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of evil, Okay, you know, raping little girls, that's evil,
But you still might become a Christian. You could get redeemed,
You could get saved out of such a howard lifestyle.
Drunkenness is a great evil, drug abuse all that. That's evil, folks,
but you get saved out of it. But the one
thing that settles it once and for all is blasphemy
of the Holy Spirit. If you take it that far,

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that's the ultimate evil. And you what it means that
you have rejected God completely with no chance of ever
coming back to him, that your condition of unbelief has
reached its final extreme. Folks, don't go there because she
says there's no forgiveness for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
I hope that helps y'all understand all this. Christopher, you
said that Donald Trump doesn't make wives political decisions, but

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he did this time. Chrispher He's a king maker. There's
never been a president, There's never been anybody who's won
so many elections for other people. That means the man
must understand political strategy to the extreme. He does. Folks.
He's becoming one of the most amazing presidents we've ever
had by all the many varied things he does with
great accomplishment. Chrispher.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Interesting, you bring that up transitionally, because he's winning a
lot of close primaries. He's actually not winning elections. He's
winning elections amongst Republicans.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I we talked about this this last week. One of
the things the founders really had a problem with was faction.
It's Federalist forty one. They were outspoken about the dangers
of political faction, of the danges of political separation based
on faction that was their name for political parties. That
didn't mean they were jet did all ideas of political parties.

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They founded two political parties, but they thought it was
a very bad idea. What Donald Trump has been doing
very effectively is that he's been winning closed primaries, the
same thing Jeff Landry did, and we just talked about
how that impacts things. That doesn't mean you win a
general election. My compliment to him of political wisdom was
it was a strategy that works in a general election,

(40:23):
as opposed to a strategy most like most of the
stuff that's worked and closed Republican primaries. I'll give you
an example when, overwhelmingly, at the behest of Mike Johnson
the Republican leadership, a bill goes to the White House
to make housing more affordable, a bill that Donald Trump supports.

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Overwhelming it was an incredible Republican success. There's more, there's
some democratic ideas in it, but overwhelmingly tax credits all
is a Republican innovation ideas the way you make things
affordable for development. He refuses to sign it, effectually creates
a pocket veto because he wants to Save Act. Now,
most of the Save Act, in fact, ninety nine point

(41:04):
nine percent of it. There's only one real provision I
have a problem with, and it's not a big problem
I agree with. I think it's a great idea. I
think you got to have photo id's to vote. But
I also realize the Founders believe the Senate was the place,
they called it the saucer of the Republic, the place
where things cooled. And the key to that is the filibuster,
the idea that no majority of that body can ever

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bind the next generation to a law, that the best
you can do is ten years on a fiscal bill,
and otherwise you got to have a supermajority to pass anything.
It is the greatest defense and the greatest encapsulation with
the Founders meant. And that's when a mister Smith can't
go to Washington right precisely. And I got to tell you,
if you want the Save Act, have a talking filibuster

(41:48):
like mister Smith did. Get up there and argue it
for a thousand hours and see if you can get
the votes. You may not see if the Democrats drop
from exhaustion, they may they may not my point being, though,
don't get rid of the defense. And this is what
bothers me about Trump, just like it bothers me about Socialist.
He is, by attitude, a revolutionary. He wants to he's

(42:10):
a developer. He wants to wipe away was there, build
something new. And sometimes that's good, but most of the
time that's bad. That's what socialists want to do because
they think the world needs to be redone. And it's
that I don't trust his instincts, Hi, because I don't
think his instincts align with those of the Founders. He
told Chris Christy something interesting. He said, you know, I
think I'm the second best president. And he says, and

(42:32):
Christy looks like better than Lincoln, like he's a second
second only to Lincoln, and he says, better than Washington.
He says, Yeah, there really wasn't all that important what
they did back there, because it really kept This was
a quote from him from one of what was once
one of his greatest supporters. I question at times if
Donald Trump really venerates the Founders the purpose of the show.

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So of course I'm skeptical about him.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, she venerates from Chris Vy talks about him all
the time, you know, and the heat of a battle
and the heat of whatever. He's been known to speak
his mind, even his passions, that later on then he regrets.
That's Donald Trump. He's a character, no question about it,
and maybe that's some reason why so many of us

(43:18):
love him, instead of delving into the depths of Trump
derangement syndrome, which I think is downright evil to get
you get your mind so worked up with so much
hatred that you develop a derangement out of it. I mean,
it's just very tragic and that is evil to me.
So all your Democrats who have this vicious, snarling hatred
for Donald Trump, you better check your conscience if you

(43:41):
have one, and deliver yourself from that type of evil.
Because there is such a thing as evil wherever you
go in whatever's going on. It's all around the world.
The Bible is very clear about that, and the Finding
Fathers are very clear about that. I guarantee you the
Black Road Regiment that those were the preachers of America
which were considered they were considered to be the most
dangerous element in the American military. I guarantee you they

(44:06):
used the word evil all the time because they were preachers. Yes, Christopher,
it was often used in the early days, and I
will find quotes from finding fathers that use the word evil.
And by the way, yes, religion was private, but they
made it very public, the funding fathers did. They continued
to remind us that we had biblical foundations and without
them we could go nowhere nowhere. And if you remember

(44:27):
the last week, some quote from Ben Franklin, his speech
to call Congress to prayer because he said that without
it we could never succeed. In the early days of
the revolution, they never went without praying, and their prayers
were answered, according to Ben Franklin. So, folks, yes, our

(44:47):
funding fathers are very open and outward about their religious
and biblical beliefs. They did not hide it. They wore
it on their sleeves, some more than others. True, that's
the way it is. I mean, some people are very
private bu their beliefs, and that's fine with me. I
have no problems with that. None of us called to
be a big mouth like myself an evangelist's going to
be outrageously out there anyway. So, folks, we're getting ready

(45:10):
to go into our next break. Christopher, you have like
one minute left of.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Course, well, I point out high, my job is not
to save souls, is to save the Republic, or at
least try. And the second point I would say is,
in the end, when it gets right down to it,
if the lesson of the two hundred and fiftieth is this,
we're all Americans, and frankly, we have to remember for
the sake of our country, all of us, what's great

(45:35):
about it and the fact that these are our fellow Americans.
And I hope that message is remembered.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Amen, folks will be right back after this break.

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Speaker 3 (47:24):
Well, folks, we're back and you are listening to the
Founder's show, the voice of the funding Fathers, And this
is none other than your Chaplain by Bah to bring
you our patriotic moment, Chaplain High mcchenry. Today we're going
to talk about the inauguration, the first inauguration on in
that year of nineteen I mean seventeen eighty nine, the

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birthday of our country, of our constitution, where it was
all put into effect, and at the end of the
inauguration George Washington added, so help me God to his oath,
which wasn't in the original oath. This is just to
show you how outspoken our finding fathers were in their
beliefs for God and the Bible. And he invited the

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whole government to go down with him to his church
to dedicate America to God. That was Saint Paul's chapel.
They all went down and they prayed and heard sermons
for three hours, folks. That's how that inauguration day went.
And they had before that they'd called America to fast
and pray on that day, which they had done many

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times in the past. By the way, fasting and praying,
I think they're serious. I think they're hardcore anyway. And
during that Washington quoted a quote from the Bible from
Solomon that says the Second Chronicle seven fourteen. If my people,
who are called by the name will humble themselves, seek
my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will

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I hear from heaven, answer their prayers and heal their land. Folks,
we need that today. The reason that was in there
is because God knew that Israel would go bad. They'd
make mistakes, they do wrong. They did it many times
and this was there out. This is a way to
come back to God. Folks. You know what God is,
what made America great at the beginning. We need to
make America great again. But we'll never really succeed till

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first we make God great in America. And the only
way we can do that is we've got to make
God great in ourselves. And so, folks, it's God great
in you right now. Well, you could only have that
happen if you were truly God's child, you were born again.
So it's not time for us to go into our chaplain. Bye.
By gospel moment, I'm just take a brief moment to
show you how you can know that. You know that,
you know when you die, you're going to Heaven. You're

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saved from a burning hell. The Bible says, the Gospel
is the power of God into salvation to who server
believeth that's the only way you get to heaven. The
Gospel and the Scripture says, for our declare to you.
The Gospel first coriently is fifteen that Christ died for
all of our sins according to scripture, that he was buried,
and that he rose from the dead according to the scripture,
and that who server believeth in this will be saved

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from Helen guaranteed heaven. I paraphrased the second, the latter
part of that verse, because it's much longer, folks. That's
what it takes. You got to believe that Jesus died
for all your sins, from the day you're born, in
the day you die, your tiniest to your greatest sins.
Then you have to believe that He rose to the dead,
and that you're only trusting in this gospel message. And
the way you do that is you repent repentance when

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you believe you cannot save yourself. The Genus kept saying
repent and believe. Repent and believe. Repentance is actually an
act of faith. It's a function of faith where you
believe you can't save yourself, your hopes and help us
without God destined up burning hell, you cannot do anything.
There's no religious work now, no matter of wealth, whatever
you got going for you. You know, all your good things,

(50:33):
no matter what it is, it's still not good enough
for God. So just let God be good enough for you.
And He did it when he died on the cross
for all your sins was buried and rose from the dead. Folks,
if you've never believed this before, do it now. Don't
wait till it's too late, like the old country Patuer said,
and like the Word of God says, now today is
a day of salvation. Well, folks, it's not time for
us to go into our test point in time where

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just take a brief moment, remind you about someone in
our world, either currently or from the ancient world or whenever,
that did something great, that left a mark, that influenced
and inspired people. And that's our testimony in the scripture
is by the blood of the Lamb and the word
of our testimony, they overcame the devil. So here goes folks.

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And that person is Samuel Adams. Literally one of my favorites.
I love Samuel Adams. He was John Adams's cousin. He's
known as a father of the American Revolution. He played
such a major role. For twenty years before the American Revolution,
he had worked on bringing it about. He was one
of the founders of the Committee for Correspondence. That's how

(51:35):
they were communicating with everybody in the colonies. He just
did more things. He was in both Congresses for the Decoration, Inependance,
and the Constitution. He drafted the Massachusetts Constitution. He was
a lieutenant governor and then later the governor. This man

(51:55):
did more things than you could ever possibly imagine. He
literally wrote the foundation of the reasons why we were
having an American revolution. This is going back, you know,
ten years before the American Revolution. Anyway, Here are a
few quotes that he made the right to freedom being
the gift of the Almighty. The rights of colonists of

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Christians may be best understood by reading and carefully studying
the Institution of the Great law Giver and Head of
the Christian Church, which are to be found clearly written
and promulgated in the New Testament. He also called for
opening Congress in prayer, which he said would be difficult
because there were so many different sects, but they'd have
to learn to get along in their praying. And then

(52:38):
he also said this, after the Decoration Penance was written,
we have this day restored this sovereign to whom all
men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven, and
from the rising to the setting of the sun, let
his kingdom come, folks. I think Sam Adams wanted to
definitely get make sure God was in the middle of

(52:59):
what they were doing, and he wanted everybody to know it.
Because he was a very outspoken man. That was one
of his notable parts. Said he was not the quiet time.
He was a very loud and outspoken person. Truly one
of the greatest of the finding follows. Think of his
testimony and the influence it has had on our country
all these years. Well, folks, it's not time for us

(53:20):
to go. As we close with around Saint Martin singing
a Creole goodbye and God bless all out there. They
call you creel goodbye. They think we just wasted time.

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Could all three sibl lo, there's time for a Creo goodbye.