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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming to you
from snowy, slippery, sliding beautiful downtown Lection, Kentucky, Clark's Main
Street Markets Studios, Fellas. I will tell you this. I
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don't know. I know Larry Vaught has not experienced any
of this. He must know Chris Bailey personally, and Chris
Bailey told you to get the heck up out of
here before all this stuff comes down. Jack Pilgrim ain't
too far from here, so he may be experienced. But
Larry Vaught, mother nature is at work again this morning.
I slipped and slid. I did not drive one bit
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here in my car. It was all sliding. It just
maneuver it just maneuverability.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh wow, So is it sit that icy again or
just snow?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's the snow. But most of my life I've owned SUV's.
This is the first car I've owned since I was
six in high school. So I'm not you know, I
don't have all wheel drive anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, I understand I don't. I don't either, So well,
I'm glad you made it. Okay, did you park in
the parking garage.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, yeah, I did because because there is because there
was a ruckus in the city about how long it
took to clean the streets off. And I didn't want
my car being a part of the reason they couldn't
clean the streets. Oh but the ramp is clean this time.
And Bow informed me last week. Bow, the ramp is
supposed to be heated leaving the hotel, so it's supposed
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to be heated. I think, I just I don't know.
So I made it here, Larry Vaude, I don't know
if I'm gonna make it out. It's the problem. So
might I have to call him a boy Stu because
he does have a four wheel drive and he's right
down the street, probably in his office. He'll have to
drop me off at home.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, all right, he'll take care of you.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Jack purplem you got the weather we have here, But
I just pulled into the par into my garage driving
out in it. I went to go pick up breakfast
for the family, and it is it is a mess. Ai,
You are not lying that I am actually driving worse
in this than I did when when it was the
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snow and ice it was a foot of snow, and
I two weeks ago, I drove worse than this than
I did back then. I guess because it's just now
settling on and it's still kind of flippery up top.
But uh, yeah it is. It's a yet another winter
wonderland out there.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Anthony.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I know you're worried about leaving here at twelve o'clock,
but what about me later on this afternoon?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Bo?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You know, I got your back like like Vertebrae. I
got you back like Vertebrae. Man, if you if you
need me to stay, I will stay because neither one
of us has to work on Monday because it is
a holiday. Uh, and we got we got TVs all
over the place. And if you need a ride, will
you will? I don't know if STU would come back
and get you, but you have to be what time
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you leave tonight, because if it keeps accumulating, you may
have to get another one of those vouchers for another
hotel room.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I will probably get out of here about five thirty,
but I am not prepared to stay down here tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Are you didn't bring your stuff that I did not?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Ship, But I'll be okay. I plan on going home
later on today. And if not, hey, we've got like
fifteen monitors here in the studios. We got a refrigerator.
I'll walk, get some food. I'll be okay. I know
where the food is downtown. When things close down.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You have my word one way or the other. I
will get you home or I will get you the
resources you need to be a nestled in here. I
got you, I got you back. Appreciate it. So obviously
everybody knows our basketball team, our mess basketball team had
a tough fight. It's going to be a tough season
all year long. With our boys basketball team playing in
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the SEC. Our women's are off. They will be playing
again today. Is why bow won't be getting out until
later at two pm. They have Georgia down in Athens.
But our gymnastics team is off to a great start
and we will have coach Garrison on that at eleven o'clock.
But Jack Pilgrim, where do we stand now at the
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with our basketball team? I do know. In the postgame comments,
Mark Pope kept using the kept using fatigue, and I'm like,
these guys are well, these guys are older than we
used to see and playing for Kentucky. But I just
didn't understand how the term fatigue comes up at that level.
I was a college athlete at one point, and I
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think that fatigue is not really a factor because this
is University of Kentucky basketball that you have people you
can rotate, you really don't miss a beat, which at
the point guard we probably will. We get bullied around
with our big man. But he kept using the word fatigue,
and that kind of gave me a reason to scratch
my head because I know Mark Pope is an intelligent,
smart coach, so there's something behind the word for team.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think that that was his very polite way of saying, uh,
very injured. Andrew Carr, who was powering through what what
he's been dealing with with the back issue, got his gout,
you know, got his tail with a little bit, and
we couldn't keep putting him out there, and we had
to find other, you know, other ways around that matchup.
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And then you deal with Lamont Butler going through what
he's going through. I mean, that dude looked like he
went through the ringer on Tuesday. I mean, he gets
punted in the face, he gets you know, shoulder, gets heard,
he's I mean, he's just flopping all over the place,
you know, with new injury every every couple of minutes,
or like, buddy, just get out of this game alive.
I'm begging please. So you knew that this was gonna
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be kind of a Hey, you're we're not getting these
guys at one hundred percent and you have Kirkriesa already out,
so let's just see what the heck happens on Saturday.
Then you I mean, Lamont plays incredibly, Andrew Carr played
his worst game as a Wildcat, but like, you know,
can you blame him? The dude is you know, as
those backspasm, back back issues that Pope had said a
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couple of times that we just kind of trying to
milk the clock a little bit to get to this
by a week where we you know, he can actually
just shut things down for a week leading up to
that game at Vanderbilt. So I think that was more
so a big part of it. And I mean, shoots,
that's the fastest team in college basketball going against one
of the other fastest teams of college basketball. No no
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rest whatsoever for either of those guys. It wis constant
up down, up down, up down, up down. So that
would you would be more fatigued in that game than
any other one. But I think injury's definitely played a
big part of that as well.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We are talking about Alabama one to oh two, Kentucky
wildcast ninety seven here in Lexti, Kentucky. Uh Natos had
his team prepared. They lost earlier in the week, and
I think they may have sought retribution or may have
chip on his shoulder, kind of like the Ohio State
football team after they lost the Michigan. Those guys have
been on the terror and I don't think anybody's gonna
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beat them. So I'm going to give early congratulations to
Ohio State football. Larry Vaught of Kentucky basketball, I don't know.
We talked last week and we didn't We could not
get calls in because of the weather. But the fan
base may have felt as if, well, I don't know
where they feel at this support. This team is competing.
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There's five point loss, we you know, we get it
down even then they going to nine point run. So
this team is exciting to watch. The SEC basketball is
going to be exciting to watch this year. Where you
staying now, with the exception of you being in sunny
sunny Florida.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, I'm actually in Myrtle Beach where there's five inches
as I expected Houston, which ought.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
To be quite an event if that happens.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I'm telling you, I don't know what's going to go
on down here. So we will see if that happened.
Somebody seems to think so. The residents don't believe it,
but that's the forecast. But anyway, I mean, it was
a tough loss. I mean, they had their chances. I
think I listened to the Goose after the game, and
I think he talked about it wasn't that Kentucky just
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played poorly. Alabama played really well. As Jack laid out,
Kentucky has a couple of limitations. It's not excuses because
Alabama had a player out also, but it just was
one of those days where again Kentucky was not quite
at its best.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And in the SEC, Kentucky is just not.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
El talented, where if it's not its best on some
of these games, it's going to struggle. I mean, but
who would have ever thought Tennessee would go to Vanderbilt
and lose the way that it did. The SEC This
is not very forgiving, And I think, to me, this
is a game you give more credit to Alabama than
you do blame Kentucky because I thought Alabama played great
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and every time they needed.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
To hit a big shot, they hit them.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yes, they have a lot of them more open shots,
but you still got to hit them. And that's something
that Alabama hadn't been doing as consistently as what it
did yesterday. And when they got a chance to get
to the foul line, they knocked all those shots down too.
So to me, it was more a case of all
the things that Alabama did right that it was so
much what a Kentucky team that, as Jack said, is
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physically kind of olympic around right now, did wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I agree with you. That's why. Actually I think
Mark Pope made some of the comments he made. Jack.
He did say Vanderbilt, the Tennessee Vanderbilt game. We are
going down to Vanderbilt next Saturday, and hopefully we don't
fare the way Tennessee fared against Vanderbilt. And you were
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the one who were saying we got to you know,
still one on the road. Are you concerned about the
Vanderbilt game? The other question I kind of do have,
and this is comes from being an athlete. And Larry
Vault I said told Larry Vault this for years when
you're a college athlete, typically football, just because you getting
hit as a contact sport, that you never after the
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first game, You're never gonna be one hundred percent like
you just gotta expect to just be bruised and have
to fight through every week. Basketball. It seems to me
to be uncommon. But the way the styles and Mark
Pope requires, like Rick Patino did, like these guys got
to use your body. You gotta throw your body around.
So I think there's gonna be people getting injured. I
think you're gonna have to play through some injury. I
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just think we're kind of limited with the big man,
and I think we're kind of limited at the point
guard position. When you talk about Butler or you talk
about car or you know, either one of those got
Williams being out, I think we're kind of limited. So
are you concerned about getting elite a week off to
recover and going down to Vanderbilt or does neither one
of those bodies.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
My biggest concern coming into the Alabama game was they
just get you know, they get their teeth knocked in
four days before at home against a ranked ole Miss team.
You know, Natos was saying this was disgusting, this was
a you know, disaster, devastation that unlike anything else. He
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was just on one after the loss of ole Miss
at home. It's you know, he kind of promised his
fan base. He was like, Hey, what we just put
out there today is not acceptable. We're going to be better.
I promise when we go up to Lexington, you're going
to get our best shot. It's going to be you know,
we're going to get a bounce back that that you
you as fans deserve. So you hear that and you go, ah, crap,
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You're going to get the best version of Alabama, who
is already a Final four contender, who was coming off
the Final four, who is bringing in the SEC player
of the year. And Mark stears. You're like they had
been cold. You know that the shot volume had been really,
really really high for Alabama, but the efficiency you know,
like two seventy five and entering this one, so you
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kind of knew that they were due to get some
shots to fall. So you're like, oh boy, this, you know,
we're we're getting Alabama probably the worst time possible, and
we got them Vandy. I'm kind of glad that they
got their Memorial magic yesterday where they get to rush
the floor, you know, storing the court against top ten opponent,
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you get the n state rivalry, you you know, throwing
jabs that we don't wear orange around here, that the
Jembo tron had you had jelly roll in the stands.
I mean, it was they It felt like they kind
of poured everything into that one and they got it.
So I'm hoping that, you know, they're going to go
to Alabama here for the midweek matchup and then they're
going to host US next week. So I'm hoping that
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Yesterday's big time win. The emotions they go into that
that that's kind of their their version of what I
was talking about with Alabama coming in for their bounce back. They're,
you know, kind of emotionally charged game. So I'm not
as nervous as I would have been if you know,
they they had gotten their teeth knocked in against Tennessee yesterday,
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because I do think Vandy is a pready darn good team.
Every team in the SEC minus maybe maybe a couple
that are starting zero to five and in the SEC,
but most of the teams are pretty darn good.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
If you give us a call, let us know if
you're a nestled in for this roller coaster of a season.
That is going to be the sec everybody's gonna be
punching everybody in the mouth. It's just gonna be a brawl.
Give us a call, let us know where you staying
with that eight five nine to eight zero two two
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This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty w
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to Chad Greenway for joining us Larry Vaught. I got
word from someone that was at the game and a
kudos again. Applaud to Big Blue Nation for showing up.
Apparently Jack Pilgrim and his buddies did not feel like
down the stretch. We did enough as a fan base
too to I guess push the Cats forward. But Larry,
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what I was told was that Andrew Carr had a
back brace on the bench. And I want to ask
you this question because you've been around sports for a
long time. Grant Nelson had a career day twenty five
eleven rebounds to assist, two blocks, career day for him,
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and I did not know during the game that Andrew
Carr was hurt. But one thing I do know that
if you have an injury, and Bow and I were
talking off air, if you do have an injury, you
don't really want to have a brace or anything on
it because the opponents will know that you are injured
and they will try and attack you. I was asking Bow,
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I wonder if Alabama knew that. The her post said
some things as if they knew he was hurt, and
they kept going at him. But I don't know if
you wear a brace on the bench, even in football,
if my knee is messed up, I mean they know
if I don't. If they watch film all weekend, they
don't see a brace, then against them they see a brace,
then they know your knee is hurt. I don't know
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if they're gonna attack it. They know you're not at
full speed or whatever the case may be. But I
did not know he had a brace on. I was
told he had a brace on, and I think, or
how do you feel about that? And just covering sports
as long as you covered, Do you think I got
a point or do you took us a mute point?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, well, I think they knew he was he was
hurt because it ben't kind of common knowledge or the
last few games you've been playing with a bad back.
And also with this SEC availability report, you have to
put on there a guys questionable, probable or whatever. So
that was all listed that I believe he was just
when he was on the bench, he was just wearing
that thing the heats up to try to keep some
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circulation going back there that you see a lot of
different players in different sports where So I don't think
that really told on anything that they didn't already know
about him. So I think, as Jack said, they did,
Andrew just couldn't match what they were doing. And I
think Mark called it bullyball they were playing, And I
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don't know if I agreed totally. Like I know, Jack
Gibbons talked a lot about that. He felt the officials
started out letting the game go where you an offensive
player could drive and kind of throw his shoulder into
a chest and it wasn't being called a foul, and
it just kept me and once he got the point,
it got too late to change it. In Alabama just
did a better job of doing that than what Kentucky did.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, I thought the officiating was terrible. If I can't
find a better word. And one thing we said on
this show for years, as long as you're consistent, if
you're terribly consistent on one aspect, but there was some
miscalls on the law and the shoulder. It seems like
that's just always a no brainer that you call all
the time. Jack Pilgrim, what do you think about the
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officiating of the game.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Trash? Absolutely trash. We were talking about it before Bo
and I were complaining about it before we went live
on air. There is no reason in the history of
mankind for a basketball game in regulation to finish longer
than two hours and thirty minutes. This is a two
hour sport. And if it happens to go to overtime,
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double over times, then we're talking two hours fifteen, two hours,
thirty whatever. We have had three games now finish in
two hours and thirty minutes or longer in the last
two weeks. That is absolutely unacceptable. I'm sick and tired
of the tiki tak nonsense. I'm sick and tired of
them going to the monitor eighty five times making it
all about themselves. It's not even about a single official
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that is bad or you know, one guy kind of
the root of all of this. They're all bad. Every
single one of them wants to make the game about themselves,
and and uh do you know, to make sure they
can't get they get their screen time up when they
go to the monitor, they get the microphone in their face,
and man, the world is theirs and they know it.
I'm sick and tired of it. Yes, I thought it
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was an embarrassment they they Grant Nelson had that crew
wrapped around his finger, get the forearm shove every time
he drove into the lane. And then in the second half,
you know, the script flipped and and you know they're
trying Kentucky's trying to navigate and go based on how
the game is called and get the feel of the game.
Mark Poe as polite as ever, you know, I think
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we need to start getting some spunk out of him
and getting some you know, get you know, get a
tee or two to kind of set the tone on
on the bench a little bit. But I'm I'm tired
of the players just kind of having uh, you know,
these gullible officials wrapped around their finger. And I think
last night was just yet another example of it did
not decide the game whatsoever. I mean, Kentucky had plenty
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of opportunities. That's why I kind of appreciated the Texas
a and end game. How bad that game was officiated
in Kentucky still fud a way to win, so we
could complain about it in a win to make it
not look like we're sore losers. But I'm tired of
it being a constant conversation after every single game.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Someone did say something about having a coach that's gonna
get in the rest face, and I thought that was
kind of a I didn't I didn't think it was
an issue, but you brought it up. That's something we're
going to talk about. Hit us up eight five nine
to eight zero two two eight seven eight five nine
to eight zero Cats. We will be back after this
year listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on
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Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim
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lit up. So let's head on over there and see
what we got going on. Randy, good morning. What do
you got for us? My man?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Good morning, gentlemen. You guys talked about it there earlier.
I thought Kentucky played okay. I think there were some
balance balls that didn't go their way, didn't bout the way.
Alabama played great and we all lost by five. Then
after the game, Pope said fatigue, But he said we
needed to guard people differently. I guess my question of
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that is is what do we do there to try that?
Do we try to do different defensive schemes? And what
do we do to combat that? And then Caleb Wilson,
where are we at with that and then also real
quick with the referee. We're the best league in basketball
and the officiating is horrid.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It is pathetic.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I mean, it's just it's frustrating to watch when we
have the best league in basketball and we have terrible officials.
I'll hang up and listen to your answers.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Guys, thanks, thank.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You for call Randy Jack Pilgrim. I think that the
referee we kind of addressed that. I do think for
this league to be as tough as it's going to be,
I thought there were some they did let them play
quite a bit. I did think they had some tiki
tac calls early late down the stretch or there was
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some that I don't think should have been called. So
I think they kind of changed momentum down the stretch.
I don't know if gambling and sports being something they
had to do with that or whatever. But if you
want to do dress, where we at we k loob.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Oh, yeah, we're home stretch here. Commitment comes on Thursday.
I spent the last two days basically all the way
up until tip off yesterday and the entire day before,
trying to get to the bottom of it. There's there
is just a lot of noise out there with people
on both sides way too confident in their school's dance
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and how you know their chances of landing him. Oh,
it's been done since November. It's been done since October.
Oh all this is just you know for show, he's
been done for a couple of weeks to North Carolina.
You know, he's already signing an IL deal with both
of these schools. Theres there's a lot of just noise
to kind of sift through and people kind of volunteering
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information and you don't know the validity of it, so
there's just it's, uh, it's complicated. I have talked to
people on on both sides and there is confidence internally,
not like oh we've had this thing locked up, but
like you know, people actually associated with the recruitment Kentucky
does not feel like it's out of it. You know,
they've heard enough of the unc buzz to kind of
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have like a he's starting to maybe get a little
worried and wonder you know, just how much ground they
You know, North Carolina was able to make up because
Kentucky had been the odds on favorite, had the best
NIL package. I mean, it's you know, part of those
two things when hand in hand. Kentucky had been playing
really really well, you know, put forth a brand of
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basketball that was really enticing for high school kids and uh,
you know, people wanting to be a part of it
and also having the money to kind of go alongside
a top five recruit. So a Kentucky's pitch was was uh,
you know, second to none. You know, I've heard things
about Hubert Davis getting getting desperate and saying I have
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to have you we need some pr I mean, they
just lost a mediocre Stanford team yesterday, a very desperate
need for some you know, some momentum, some uh you know,
some positive pr to kind of you know, keep that
the ball rolling with Hubert Davis. So did that entail
a include a ridiculous nil package to close the gap
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and then some with Kentucky. It's very possible. So, uh,
if if I were to guess right now where he's leaning,
I would say probably North Carolina. But there's assume, way
too much stuff out there to feel you know, totally
grounded in a in a confident pick one way or
the other. I'm still gonna, you know, the next day
or two keep kind of working the phones and see
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if there's if there's tangible, really good information out there
to decide to you know, who's who's going to land them.
But it's still still way too close of a call
for me to you know, be outspokenly confident about either.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
School and Jack Pilgrim before we get to to get
back to the big ass fans hotline he asked about
Randy asked about defenses, and I could I know that
I saw him run. He ran zone run Zone man's,
he ran man and none of them were really effective.
They were getting to the bucket and as Larry Vaught
said earlier, they were allowed they were allowed them to
lower their shoulders, which as soon as you lower your shoulder,
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that's typically a file at some point. But uh, we
did run zone man's where you match up matchup zones.
We did run just straight zones. But they were getting
to the bucket on this and getting to the hole
on us either way. So that's am I did you
see something other wise, because Randy asked, did we try
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things or could we have tried things differently? I don't
know what else. You get. You get a matchup zone,
a regular zone man, and you can't like you said,
they may have just been a better or a hungrier
team because of the lost oldness.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, I would say we saw like five six possessions
of that one three one, and that kind of led
to some of the momentum in the first half for Kentucky.
That was kind of through the one three one out there,
and then Brandon Garrison hit a three on the other end,
We're like, oh, baby, like we might be we might
be cooking here, and you know, that led to some
thirty thirty foot bombs that you know, Alabama was missing
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to start with. Then they kind of started hitting some
of those open looks and you kind of had to
go back out of it. So I think they were trying,
and I think Pope's really just trying to either. The
trying to learn how the game is being officiated was
a topic that you know, figuring out foal call, figuring
out what makes these SEC officials pick and like what's
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the the why behind the you know, the calls that
they're making. And he addressed that, I mean like four
or five different times and in his postgame press conference,
both with radio and and you know, at the podium
as well, so that I think that is priority number
one it's like, hey, we don't even know how to
guard these guys without getting fouls called on you talk
to the players, there is some pretty clear frustration on
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the player side too, of them just not knowing how
to guard. That's not necessarily a lack of capability on
their side, but more so they just you know, ignorant
on their end of saying, I, how do you want
me to guard these guys with how, you know, blowing
the whistle? So I think there's internal frustrations about how
the game's being called. So we'll see. I don't know
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if it is just a you know, are we going man?
Are we going zone? What type of zone? What type
of man? Uh to to you know, find a fix?
Because I do think how the game is being called
is really impacting how they're you know, kind of how
they're going about it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I absolutely agree with that. Let's get back to the
biggest fans hotline and see what Larry. I'll say, good
morning Larry, what he got for us.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
First of all, I'm really disappointed in us anyway. We
got beat a good team. I can't say it wasn't
a good team before I just started on basketball. There's
women around TV today I looked for them while ago
and I couldn't from y'all said two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Didn't he two o'clock ESPN plus a's he sees Network
plus as he's Network Plus. I don't think that was
gonna be. That's gonna be one of the topics of
the day. Larry for the other Larry later in the show,
because I'm not sure why Brooks isn't getting enough credit
for what he's doing. There is it Kentucky hasn't earned
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that credit or Brooks himself hasn't earned that credit.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
But continue, Sorry, here's what gets me, y'all. I buy
these packages. I got the you know, satellite network and
stuff and all that, and he buy all this and
they want to buy more. I ain't buying it during stuff.
That's what the one just keep digging any pocketing for
more and more, you know, you pay for all this stuff,
and then they put him on place. No, Kentucky was
one last year, wasn't very good every game in the spaying.
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That's a bunch of garbage anyway on this basketball. So
you know, as far as our big guys, I'm gonna
tell you what. Here's why I said, our bigs we
got to double down on their bigs, and then that
leaves them wide open for freeze on us. They don't
double down on us, They play us straight up. And
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you know, and and of course Robinson them and Bray well,
they were having a hard time even geting note and shot.
And that's the way I see, you know, our bigs.
We break some in next year. I hope we bring
in some big guy that can really just bull his
way through because our guys are kind of I hate
say the word soft. I know that he's hurt his bike.
I mean I'm gonna give him pass on that part.
Of course, our point guard's hurt too, you know, I
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give him a pass on him. But it seems like
that that that Mark Polpe, he's going to get a
little bit meaner. You know, I've got tired of listening
cow care on all the time. I mean, you know
he eat, screamed and carried on all the time. I
don't want even go to that part. But but Pope
is such a nice guy. Come on, res you know,
come on nasty with them, because seems like me they're
gonna let them get away with the whole lot of stuff. Guys.
(29:04):
You know, it's to the point that that that you
know you've got to Uh one time here said we
got ran plumb over, and I said, that's a charge
they show replayed, but all the the guy said, well
he might have moved a little a little colin hee
got ran plumb over. But to Larry, what do you
think about counting Perry? Is he going to make it?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Thank you for the call, Larry, I appreciate it. Uh, Larry,
I'm gonna let you answer that question first, and I
do want to ask you about the Kentucky effect or
the Brooks effect were why the respect is not being given?
But uh you think, I guess. I want you to answer.
It's your calcual make it question and we'll move on
after that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, I'm sure he'll make it because he can go
to the bank whenever they checks. I think he's gonna
make it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But no, I think I don't think Arkansas is going
to make the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't think those guys.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I mean, they were one of only two teams in
then SEC that hadn't won game. They got awful lot
of difficult games ahead, and I just think that that's
not gonna be And Jack may disagree, but I just
don't think that's gonna be the kind of team that's
gonna rally and say, let's let's win for Caliperry, let's
play here. I think they're in for a long next
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month of the half.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Uh, Larry, I'm not Larry Jack. I'm gonna let you
respond to that before I go back to that women's
basketball question with Larry.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I remember just so vividly standing in the back of
the room, the press conference room after the Oakland loss.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Cal's talking about what the fix was, what the plan
was to write the ship and get things fixed in Lexington.
Uh And the first thing out of his mouth is, Hey,
we have a really really talented group coming in next
year that I'm really confident in to to kind of
get this thing back on track. And as he said that,
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Mitch Barnhart I was standing right next to Mitch Barnhart
and He's shaking his head back and forth, like, Oh,
here we go and meet meet on a stick, dangling
out in front of us, just waiting for somebody to keep,
you know, keep pushing and pushing and pushing and trying
for it. So I guarantee you it's gonna be the
same same narrative where this team, oh well, you know,
the guys just weren't warrant what I thought they were
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going to be. But hey, you hear about Malik Thomas
and Darius a. Cuff I got to five top five
five stars coming in that they are going to be
the reasons why this thing gets sticked. So we'll see
how gullible Arkansas fans are to to, you know, kind
of keep falling for that trap. But I'm just glad
that we're not going to have to listen to that
this offseason and try to explain why this team did
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not make the ANSYA Tournament because that would have been
our team. That's kind of the weird reality of all
this is we watch an Arkansas game and you see
the starting lineup, and that very well could have been
the starting lineup in Lexington this year. So as down
as you may be about a five point loss to
a top five team in college basketball, for you know,
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hit have been Final four national championship contender, you know,
with counter blasting, because it could be worse.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
See all that hype they had with all these players
coming in with Cal, and Cal is now in Arkansas
not doing anything. So when Mark stoops, when he cleans
house and brings in new guys, who's gonna listen, who's
gonna participate and be part of the big Blue Nation?
Then half faith half faith? So just changing just because
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you said, well those gott are good. Everybody's leaving. Yeah,
they had to leave because they had us a four
and eight record. Now Cal has all those players over there.
He has a zero five record in the conference, So
take that. But Larry Vaught, who doesn't have a zero
five record in the conference, who's undefeated in the conferences?
Is coach Brooks? Is it fair to him to continue to?
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I mean, and they have went over per due, win
over Louisville. There's some wins. But I'm kind of with
Larry for once. Rarely I'm with Larry. I'm kind of
with Larry for once. That is it Brook's not getting
respect because he's at Kentucky. Is not a Brooks fan?
Or is it just he hasn't shown enough yet?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know anthy.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think part of it might be TV schedules were
set before the season started, and maybe people weren't anticipating
Kentucky heaving.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
This kind of year made every think it's gonna be
more what has been going on.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It was kind of a wait and see, but I'm
a little surprised a few more things hadn't been changed around.
But the good thing, none of it seems to bother
Kenny Brooks. I think more and more fans are going
to come out to ruff Aerena to watch them play,
and we're just gonna have to get by with tune in.
Let Bow produce the game today. This listens on radio
if you need to, so that's not all.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Bad sin food Bow, send up a smoke signal, send food.
Bowl's gonna need food because he may be nestled in.
We will continue this conversation when we come back. You're
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with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim. The uh the big
ass fans. Hotlines are still lit up. You can join
a five nine to eight zero two two eight seven
eight five nine to eight zero Cats, but you won't
be able to get on until at the top of
the hour because we have only one call that we
can take right now, and we're gonna get over there.
(34:28):
John Short, you're a great American. What do you got
for us?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Gin is? He know we lost for five points, but
room bounce back and we'll win. We bean to build
bus fifteen.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Bigins fifteen in Nashville. Yep, yeah, John Short, you may
stand alone with that thought this time. And I what
I I got my fingers crossed, So I'm gonna ride
with you.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
And we will beat Georgia Day fifteen. Bigas of women's basketball,
I give you that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Do you what do you think about Larry Vaught and
I were talking. You probably heard where you were on hold?
What what do you feel about the way our basketball
team is doing in the national recognition? We're good? Does
that upset you a little bit? Sticking your crawl a
little bit?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Yeah, So I think we need to tell that is more.
I think for the pluses that's ought to be for
teams like like Eastern West or something like Dad we
need that, or run like Mersus that needs me on
the pluses. But teams like anybody in the Southeast Conference,
they needs to be televised.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, I agree with you. But the Southeast, the Southeastern Conference,
as Larry Vault state, that does have a lot of
teams that's been traditionally good or well quite a few
that has been Traditionedcuse I ain't gonna say a lot,
uh in the women's side. So we are just now
starting to I think, tap into that because that is
part of the reason we had to change coaches. So
it was already predetermined, John Short, So we gotta we
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gotta wait till next year to get some respect.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
I guess there's something you played with it, Jerry Red
y'all played with it, Jerry Reid that y'all played just
about minute ago.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Both says, yes, what was the name of that song?
Alabama Jubilee?
Speaker 8 (36:13):
I remember that song is a goodness.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Well, we appreciate that, and we appreciate your call. Mister
John Short, you are great American. Thank you, thank you. Uh.
Larry Vaughd, I did not think of that.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
We don't have a whole lot of time, so I'm
not I did not think of that. You got LSU
South Carolina, Old miss. There's some there are some dogs
in this conference where maybe that dictates where we play
as you You made a heck of a point that
the stick schedules already decided before the year started. The
schedule was decided before we've hired our coach. But you
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still we still probably have to take the back seat
behind ls u uh old Miss South Carolina with some
of those quest or do you think next year they'll
rearrange some of that.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, I think they'll probably rearrange some of it next year,
So it'll be interesting to see how that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Comes to play.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
But again, I think it's hard to know how all
that's put together.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
And I do.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Think Kentucky deserves a little bit more, probably TV time
than what they get. They've had to play in some
odd starting times to give what TV time that they
have got. But the good thing is they're just winning
and rolling right along and it's not bothering them. So
we just have to suffer and make do the best
we can.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Really quickly before we go to break. I do want
to ask do you think you do you kind of
feel Vis marrow ish with our women team because you
did bring up Brooks doesn't mind the disrespect or whatever
kind of that chip on the shoulder. Do you think
that that kind of fuels him a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
In the girls, I think absolutely. I think they liked that.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And again, any little edge, as you know that you
can get even if it's not true, if you can
just make your players believe it's true, that's a good
thing for you. So I think that's probably something they've
kind of, you know, thrown around just a little bit.
But they'll get their chance. I mean later in the season,
they're going to hit a stretch it's going to really
really be difficult. So we'll see. They just need to
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keep winning what they can do right now and hopefully
keep them self positioned where maybe they can host the
first round then GAA this year.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I agree with you. One person you don't want to
piss off is Georgia Amore. You don't want to piss
her off. So keep on, keep on doing what you're doing,
sec scheduling people, because if you piss her off, she's
going to continue to win. We will be back after this.
You're listening Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Sauk on News
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Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming to you
from snowy, slippery, sliding beautiful downtown Lection, Kentucky, Clark's Main
Street Markets Studios, Fellas. I will tell you this. I
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don't know. I know Larry Vaught has not experienced any
of this. He must know Chris Bailey personally, and Chris
Bailey told you to get the heck up out of
here before all this stuff comes down. Jack Pilgrim ain't
too far from here, so he may be experienced. But
Larry Vaught, mother nature is at work again this morning.
I slipped and slid. I did not drive one bit
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here in my car. It was all sliding. It just
maneuver it just maneuverability.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh wow, So is it sit that icy again or
just snow?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's the snow. But most of my life I've owned SUV's.
This is the first car I've owned since I was
six in high school. So I'm not you know, I
don't have all wheel drive anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, I understand I don't. I don't either, So well,
I'm glad you made it. Okay, did you park in
the parking garage.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, yeah, I did because because there is because there
was a ruckus in the city about how long it
took to clean the streets off. And I didn't want
my car being a part of the reason they couldn't
clean the streets. Oh but the ramp is clean this time.
And Bow informed me last week. Bow, the ramp is
supposed to be heated leaving the hotel, so it's supposed
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to be heated. I think, I just I don't know.
So I made it here, Larry Vaude, I don't know
if I'm gonna make it out. It's the problem. So
might I have to call him a boy Stu because
he does have a four wheel drive and he's right
down the street, probably in his office. He'll have to
drop me off at home.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, all right, he'll take care of you.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Jack purplem you got the weather we have here, But
I just pulled into the par into my garage driving
out in it. I went to go pick up breakfast
for the family, and it is it is a mess. Ai,
You are not lying that I am actually driving worse
in this than I did when when it was the
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snow and ice it was a foot of snow, and
I two weeks ago, I drove worse than this than
I did back then. I guess because it's just now
settling on and it's still kind of flippery up top.
But uh, yeah it is. It's a yet another winter
wonderland out there.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Anthony.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I know you're worried about leaving here at twelve o'clock,
but what about me later on this afternoon?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Bo?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You know, I got your back like like Vertebrae. I
got you back like Vertebrae. Man, if you if you
need me to stay, I will stay because neither one
of us has to work on Monday because it is
a holiday. Uh, and we got we got TVs all
over the place. And if you need a ride, will
you will? I don't know if STU would come back
and get you, but you have to be what time
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you leave tonight, because if it keeps accumulating, you may
have to get another one of those vouchers for another
hotel room.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I will probably get out of here about five thirty,
but I am not prepared to stay down here tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Are you didn't bring your stuff that I did not?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Ship, But I'll be okay. I plan on going home
later on today. And if not, hey, we've got like
fifteen monitors here in the studios. We got a refrigerator.
I'll walk, get some food. I'll be okay. I know
where the food is downtown. When things close down.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You have my word one way or the other. I
will get you home or I will get you the
resources you need to be a nestled in here. I
got you, I got you back. Appreciate it. So obviously
everybody knows our basketball team, our mess basketball team had
a tough fight. It's going to be a tough season
all year long. With our boys basketball team playing in
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the SEC. Our women's are off. They will be playing
again today. Is why bow won't be getting out until
later at two pm. They have Georgia down in Athens.
But our gymnastics team is off to a great start
and we will have coach Garrison on that at eleven o'clock.
But Jack Pilgrim, where do we stand now at the
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with our basketball team? I do know. In the postgame comments,
Mark Pope kept using the kept using fatigue, and I'm like,
these guys are well, these guys are older than we
used to see and playing for Kentucky. But I just
didn't understand how the term fatigue comes up at that level.
I was a college athlete at one point, and I
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think that fatigue is not really a factor because this
is University of Kentucky basketball that you have people you
can rotate, you really don't miss a beat, which at
the point guard we probably will. We get bullied around
with our big man. But he kept using the word fatigue,
and that kind of gave me a reason to scratch
my head because I know Mark Pope is an intelligent,
smart coach, so there's something behind the word for team.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think that that was his very polite way of saying, uh,
very injured. Andrew Carr, who was powering through what what
he's been dealing with with the back issue, got his gout,
you know, got his tail with a little bit, and
we couldn't keep putting him out there, and we had
to find other, you know, other ways around that matchup.
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And then you deal with Lamont Butler going through what
he's going through. I mean, that dude looked like he
went through the ringer on Tuesday. I mean, he gets
punted in the face, he gets you know, shoulder, gets heard,
he's I mean, he's just flopping all over the place,
you know, with new injury every every couple of minutes,
or like, buddy, just get out of this game alive.
I'm begging please. So you knew that this was gonna
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be kind of a Hey, you're we're not getting these
guys at one hundred percent and you have Kirkriesa already out,
so let's just see what the heck happens on Saturday.
Then you I mean, Lamont plays incredibly, Andrew Carr played
his worst game as a Wildcat, but like, you know,
can you blame him? The dude is you know, as
those backspasm, back back issues that Pope had said a
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couple of times that we just kind of trying to
milk the clock a little bit to get to this
by a week where we you know, he can actually
just shut things down for a week leading up to
that game at Vanderbilt. So I think that was more
so a big part of it. And I mean, shoots,
that's the fastest team in college basketball going against one
of the other fastest teams of college basketball. No no
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rest whatsoever for either of those guys. It wis constant
up down, up down, up down, up down. So that
would you would be more fatigued in that game than
any other one. But I think injury's definitely played a
big part of that as well.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We are talking about Alabama one to oh two, Kentucky
wildcast ninety seven here in Lexti, Kentucky. Uh Natos had
his team prepared. They lost earlier in the week, and
I think they may have sought retribution or may have
chip on his shoulder, kind of like the Ohio State
football team after they lost the Michigan. Those guys have
been on the terror and I don't think anybody's gonna
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beat them. So I'm going to give early congratulations to
Ohio State football. Larry Vaught of Kentucky basketball, I don't know.
We talked last week and we didn't We could not
get calls in because of the weather. But the fan
base may have felt as if, well, I don't know
where they feel at this support. This team is competing.
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There's five point loss, we you know, we get it
down even then they going to nine point run. So
this team is exciting to watch. The SEC basketball is
going to be exciting to watch this year. Where you
staying now, with the exception of you being in sunny
sunny Florida.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, I'm actually in Myrtle Beach where there's five inches
as I expected Houston, which ought.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
To be quite an event if that happens.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I'm telling you, I don't know what's going to go
on down here. So we will see if that happened.
Somebody seems to think so. The residents don't believe it,
but that's the forecast. But anyway, I mean, it was
a tough loss. I mean, they had their chances. I
think I listened to the Goose after the game, and
I think he talked about it wasn't that Kentucky just
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played poorly. Alabama played really well. As Jack laid out,
Kentucky has a couple of limitations. It's not excuses because
Alabama had a player out also, but it just was
one of those days where again Kentucky was not quite
at its best.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And in the SEC, Kentucky is just not.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
El talented, where if it's not its best on some
of these games, it's going to struggle. I mean, but
who would have ever thought Tennessee would go to Vanderbilt
and lose the way that it did. The SEC This
is not very forgiving, And I think, to me, this
is a game you give more credit to Alabama than
you do blame Kentucky because I thought Alabama played great
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and every time they needed.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
To hit a big shot, they hit them.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yes, they have a lot of them more open shots,
but you still got to hit them. And that's something
that Alabama hadn't been doing as consistently as what it
did yesterday. And when they got a chance to get
to the foul line, they knocked all those shots down too.
So to me, it was more a case of all
the things that Alabama did right that it was so
much what a Kentucky team that, as Jack said, is
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physically kind of olympic around right now, did wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I agree with you. That's why. Actually I think
Mark Pope made some of the comments he made. Jack.
He did say Vanderbilt, the Tennessee Vanderbilt game. We are
going down to Vanderbilt next Saturday, and hopefully we don't
fare the way Tennessee fared against Vanderbilt. And you were
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the one who were saying we got to you know,
still one on the road. Are you concerned about the
Vanderbilt game? The other question I kind of do have,
and this is comes from being an athlete. And Larry
Vault I said told Larry Vault this for years when
you're a college athlete, typically football, just because you getting
hit as a contact sport, that you never after the
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first game, You're never gonna be one hundred percent like
you just gotta expect to just be bruised and have
to fight through every week. Basketball. It seems to me
to be uncommon. But the way the styles and Mark
Pope requires, like Rick Patino did, like these guys got
to use your body. You gotta throw your body around.
So I think there's gonna be people getting injured. I
think you're gonna have to play through some injury. I
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just think we're kind of limited with the big man,
and I think we're kind of limited at the point
guard position. When you talk about Butler or you talk
about car or you know, either one of those got
Williams being out, I think we're kind of limited. So
are you concerned about getting elite a week off to
recover and going down to Vanderbilt or does neither one
of those bodies.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
My biggest concern coming into the Alabama game was they
just get you know, they get their teeth knocked in
four days before at home against a ranked ole Miss team.
You know, Natos was saying this was disgusting, this was
a you know, disaster, devastation that unlike anything else. He
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was just on one after the loss of ole Miss
at home. It's you know, he kind of promised his
fan base. He was like, Hey, what we just put
out there today is not acceptable. We're going to be better.
I promise when we go up to Lexington, you're going
to get our best shot. It's going to be you know,
we're going to get a bounce back that that you
you as fans deserve. So you hear that and you go, ah, crap,
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You're going to get the best version of Alabama, who
is already a Final four contender, who was coming off
the Final four, who is bringing in the SEC player
of the year. And Mark stears. You're like they had
been cold. You know that the shot volume had been really,
really really high for Alabama, but the efficiency you know,
like two seventy five and entering this one, so you
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kind of knew that they were due to get some
shots to fall. So you're like, oh boy, this, you know,
we're we're getting Alabama probably the worst time possible, and
we got them Vandy. I'm kind of glad that they
got their Memorial magic yesterday where they get to rush
the floor, you know, storing the court against top ten opponent,
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you get the n state rivalry, you you know, throwing
jabs that we don't wear orange around here, that the
Jembo tron had you had jelly roll in the stands.
I mean, it was they It felt like they kind
of poured everything into that one and they got it.
So I'm hoping that, you know, they're going to go
to Alabama here for the midweek matchup and then they're
going to host US next week. So I'm hoping that
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Yesterday's big time win. The emotions they go into that
that that's kind of their their version of what I
was talking about with Alabama coming in for their bounce back. They're,
you know, kind of emotionally charged game. So I'm not
as nervous as I would have been if you know,
they they had gotten their teeth knocked in against Tennessee yesterday,
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because I do think Vandy is a pready darn good team.
Every team in the SEC minus maybe maybe a couple
that are starting zero to five and in the SEC,
but most of the teams are pretty darn good.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
If you give us a call, let us know if
you're a nestled in for this roller coaster of a season.
That is going to be the sec everybody's gonna be
punching everybody in the mouth. It's just gonna be a brawl.
Give us a call, let us know where you staying
with that eight five nine to eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine to eight zero Cats. We
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(13:53):
to Chad Greenway for joining us Larry Vaught. I got
word from someone that was at the game and a
kudos again. Applaud to Big Blue Nation for showing up.
Apparently Jack Pilgrim and his buddies did not feel like
down the stretch. We did enough as a fan base
too to I guess push the Cats forward. But Larry,
(14:14):
what I was told was that Andrew Carr had a
back brace on the bench. And I want to ask
you this question because you've been around sports for a
long time. Grant Nelson had a career day twenty five
eleven rebounds to assist, two blocks, career day for him,
(14:34):
and I did not know during the game that Andrew
Carr was hurt. But one thing I do know that
if you have an injury, and Bow and I were
talking off air, if you do have an injury, you
don't really want to have a brace or anything on
it because the opponents will know that you are injured
and they will try and attack you. I was asking Bow,
(14:56):
I wonder if Alabama knew that. The her post said
some things as if they knew he was hurt, and
they kept going at him. But I don't know if
you wear a brace on the bench, even in football,
if my knee is messed up, I mean they know
if I don't. If they watch film all weekend, they
don't see a brace, then against them they see a brace,
then they know your knee is hurt. I don't know
(15:17):
if they're gonna attack it. They know you're not at
full speed or whatever the case may be. But I
did not know he had a brace on. I was
told he had a brace on, and I think, or
how do you feel about that? And just covering sports
as long as you covered, Do you think I got
a point or do you took us a mute point?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, well, I think they knew he was he was
hurt because it ben't kind of common knowledge or the
last few games you've been playing with a bad back.
And also with this SEC availability report, you have to
put on there a guys questionable, probable or whatever. So
that was all listed that I believe he was just
when he was on the bench, he was just wearing
that thing the heats up to try to keep some
(15:58):
circulation going back there that you see a lot of
different players in different sports where So I don't think
that really told on anything that they didn't already know
about him. So I think, as Jack said, they did,
Andrew just couldn't match what they were doing. And I
think Mark called it bullyball they were playing, And I
(16:21):
don't know if I agreed totally. Like I know, Jack
Gibbons talked a lot about that. He felt the officials
started out letting the game go where you an offensive
player could drive and kind of throw his shoulder into
a chest and it wasn't being called a foul, and
it just kept me and once he got the point,
it got too late to change it. In Alabama just
did a better job of doing that than what Kentucky did.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, I thought the officiating was terrible. If I can't
find a better word. And one thing we said on
this show for years, as long as you're consistent, if
you're terribly consistent on one aspect, but there was some
miscalls on the law and the shoulder. It seems like
that's just always a no brainer that you call all
the time. Jack Pilgrim, what do you think about the
(17:04):
officiating of the game.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Trash? Absolutely trash. We were talking about it before Bo
and I were complaining about it before we went live
on air. There is no reason in the history of
mankind for a basketball game in regulation to finish longer
than two hours and thirty minutes. This is a two
hour sport. And if it happens to go to overtime,
(17:29):
double over times, then we're talking two hours fifteen, two hours,
thirty whatever. We have had three games now finish in
two hours and thirty minutes or longer in the last
two weeks. That is absolutely unacceptable. I'm sick and tired
of the tiki tak nonsense. I'm sick and tired of
them going to the monitor eighty five times making it
all about themselves. It's not even about a single official
(17:51):
that is bad or you know, one guy kind of
the root of all of this. They're all bad. Every
single one of them wants to make the game about themselves,
and and uh do you know, to make sure they
can't get they get their screen time up when they
go to the monitor, they get the microphone in their face,
and man, the world is theirs and they know it.
I'm sick and tired of it. Yes, I thought it
(18:12):
was an embarrassment they they Grant Nelson had that crew
wrapped around his finger, get the forearm shove every time
he drove into the lane. And then in the second half,
you know, the script flipped and and you know they're
trying Kentucky's trying to navigate and go based on how
the game is called and get the feel of the game.
Mark Poe as polite as ever, you know, I think
(18:34):
we need to start getting some spunk out of him
and getting some you know, get you know, get a
tee or two to kind of set the tone on
on the bench a little bit. But I'm I'm tired
of the players just kind of having uh, you know,
these gullible officials wrapped around their finger. And I think
last night was just yet another example of it did
not decide the game whatsoever. I mean, Kentucky had plenty
(18:55):
of opportunities. That's why I kind of appreciated the Texas
a and end game. How bad that game was officiated
in Kentucky still fud a way to win, so we
could complain about it in a win to make it
not look like we're sore losers. But I'm tired of
it being a constant conversation after every single game.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Someone did say something about having a coach that's gonna
get in the rest face, and I thought that was
kind of a I didn't I didn't think it was
an issue, but you brought it up. That's something we're
going to talk about. Hit us up eight five nine
to eight zero two two eight seven eight five nine
to eight zero Cats. We will be back after this
year listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on
news radio six thirty WLAP. This is the home of
(19:31):
the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP. Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday
Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim
and Larry Vault. This our Sunday morning sports talk has
brought to you by a country boy brewing the phone lines,
the big ass fans phone line. Not just a regular
phone line's a big ass fans phone line. It is
(19:52):
lit up. So let's head on over there and see
what we got going on. Randy, good morning. What do
you got for us? My man?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Good morning, gentlemen. You guys talked about it there earlier.
I thought Kentucky played okay. I think there were some
balance balls that didn't go their way, didn't bout the way.
Alabama played great and we all lost by five. Then
after the game, Pope said fatigue, But he said we
needed to guard people differently. I guess my question of
(20:24):
that is is what do we do there to try that?
Do we try to do different defensive schemes? And what
do we do to combat that? And then Caleb Wilson,
where are we at with that and then also real
quick with the referee. We're the best league in basketball
and the officiating is horrid.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It is pathetic.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I mean, it's just it's frustrating to watch when we
have the best league in basketball and we have terrible officials.
I'll hang up and listen to your answers.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Guys, thanks, thank.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You for call Randy Jack Pilgrim. I think that the
referee we kind of addressed that. I do think for
this league to be as tough as it's going to be,
I thought there were some they did let them play
quite a bit. I did think they had some tiki
tac calls early late down the stretch or there was
(21:15):
some that I don't think should have been called. So
I think they kind of changed momentum down the stretch.
I don't know if gambling and sports being something they
had to do with that or whatever. But if you
want to do dress, where we at we k loob.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Oh, yeah, we're home stretch here. Commitment comes on Thursday.
I spent the last two days basically all the way
up until tip off yesterday and the entire day before,
trying to get to the bottom of it. There's there
is just a lot of noise out there with people
on both sides way too confident in their school's dance
(21:59):
and how you know their chances of landing him. Oh,
it's been done since November. It's been done since October.
Oh all this is just you know for show, he's
been done for a couple of weeks to North Carolina.
You know, he's already signing an IL deal with both
of these schools. Theres there's a lot of just noise
to kind of sift through and people kind of volunteering
(22:20):
information and you don't know the validity of it, so
there's just it's, uh, it's complicated. I have talked to
people on on both sides and there is confidence internally,
not like oh we've had this thing locked up, but
like you know, people actually associated with the recruitment Kentucky
does not feel like it's out of it. You know,
they've heard enough of the unc buzz to kind of
(22:42):
have like a he's starting to maybe get a little
worried and wonder you know, just how much ground they
You know, North Carolina was able to make up because
Kentucky had been the odds on favorite, had the best
NIL package. I mean, it's you know, part of those
two things when hand in hand. Kentucky had been playing
really really well, you know, put forth a brand of
(23:02):
basketball that was really enticing for high school kids and uh,
you know, people wanting to be a part of it
and also having the money to kind of go alongside
a top five recruit. So a Kentucky's pitch was was uh,
you know, second to none. You know, I've heard things
about Hubert Davis getting getting desperate and saying I have
(23:23):
to have you we need some pr I mean, they
just lost a mediocre Stanford team yesterday, a very desperate
need for some you know, some momentum, some uh you know,
some positive pr to kind of you know, keep that
the ball rolling with Hubert Davis. So did that entail
a include a ridiculous nil package to close the gap
(23:46):
and then some with Kentucky. It's very possible. So, uh,
if if I were to guess right now where he's leaning,
I would say probably North Carolina. But there's assume, way
too much stuff out there to feel you know, totally
grounded in a in a confident pick one way or
the other. I'm still gonna, you know, the next day
or two keep kind of working the phones and see
(24:08):
if there's if there's tangible, really good information out there
to decide to you know, who's who's going to land them.
But it's still still way too close of a call
for me to you know, be outspokenly confident about either.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
School and Jack Pilgrim before we get to to get
back to the big ass fans hotline he asked about
Randy asked about defenses, and I could I know that
I saw him run. He ran zone run Zone man's,
he ran man and none of them were really effective.
They were getting to the bucket and as Larry Vaught
said earlier, they were allowed they were allowed them to
lower their shoulders, which as soon as you lower your shoulder,
(24:42):
that's typically a file at some point. But uh, we
did run zone man's where you match up matchup zones.
We did run just straight zones. But they were getting
to the bucket on this and getting to the hole
on us either way. So that's am I did you
see something other wise, because Randy asked, did we try
(25:02):
things or could we have tried things differently? I don't
know what else. You get. You get a matchup zone,
a regular zone man, and you can't like you said,
they may have just been a better or a hungrier
team because of the lost oldness.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, I would say we saw like five six possessions
of that one three one, and that kind of led
to some of the momentum in the first half for Kentucky.
That was kind of through the one three one out there,
and then Brandon Garrison hit a three on the other end,
We're like, oh, baby, like we might be we might
be cooking here, and you know, that led to some
thirty thirty foot bombs that you know, Alabama was missing
(25:41):
to start with. Then they kind of started hitting some
of those open looks and you kind of had to
go back out of it. So I think they were trying,
and I think Pope's really just trying to either. The
trying to learn how the game is being officiated was
a topic that you know, figuring out foal call, figuring
out what makes these SEC officials pick and like what's
(26:02):
the the why behind the you know, the calls that
they're making. And he addressed that, I mean like four
or five different times and in his postgame press conference,
both with radio and and you know, at the podium
as well, so that I think that is priority number
one it's like, hey, we don't even know how to
guard these guys without getting fouls called on you talk
to the players, there is some pretty clear frustration on
(26:25):
the player side too, of them just not knowing how
to guard. That's not necessarily a lack of capability on
their side, but more so they just you know, ignorant
on their end of saying, I, how do you want
me to guard these guys with how, you know, blowing
the whistle? So I think there's internal frustrations about how
the game's being called. So we'll see. I don't know
(26:45):
if it is just a you know, are we going man?
Are we going zone? What type of zone? What type
of man? Uh to to you know, find a fix?
Because I do think how the game is being called
is really impacting how they're you know, kind of how
they're going about it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I absolutely agree with that. Let's get back to the
biggest fans hotline and see what Larry. I'll say, good
morning Larry, what he got for us.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
First of all, I'm really disappointed in us anyway. We
got beat a good team. I can't say it wasn't
a good team before I just started on basketball. There's
women around TV today I looked for them while ago
and I couldn't from y'all said two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Didn't he two o'clock ESPN plus a's he sees Network
plus as he's Network Plus. I don't think that was
gonna be. That's gonna be one of the topics of
the day. Larry for the other Larry later in the show,
because I'm not sure why Brooks isn't getting enough credit
for what he's doing. There is it Kentucky hasn't earned
(27:39):
that credit or Brooks himself hasn't earned that credit.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
But continue, Sorry, here's what gets me, y'all. I buy
these packages. I got the you know, satellite network and
stuff and all that, and he buy all this and
they want to buy more. I ain't buying it during stuff.
That's what the one just keep digging any pocketing for
more and more, you know, you pay for all this stuff,
and then they put him on place. No, Kentucky was
one last year, wasn't very good every game in the spaying.
(28:02):
That's a bunch of garbage anyway on this basketball. So
you know, as far as our big guys, I'm gonna
tell you what. Here's why I said, our bigs we
got to double down on their bigs, and then that
leaves them wide open for freeze on us. They don't
double down on us, They play us straight up. And
(28:22):
you know, and and of course Robinson them and Bray well,
they were having a hard time even geting note and shot.
And that's the way I see, you know, our bigs.
We break some in next year. I hope we bring
in some big guy that can really just bull his
way through because our guys are kind of I hate
say the word soft. I know that he's hurt his bike.
I mean I'm gonna give him pass on that part.
Of course, our point guard's hurt too, you know, I
(28:44):
give him a pass on him. But it seems like
that that that Mark Polpe, he's going to get a
little bit meaner. You know, I've got tired of listening
cow care on all the time. I mean, you know
he eat, screamed and carried on all the time. I
don't want even go to that part. But but Pope
is such a nice guy. Come on, res you know,
come on nasty with them, because seems like me they're
gonna let them get away with the whole lot of stuff. Guys.
(29:04):
You know, it's to the point that that that you
know you've got to Uh one time here said we
got ran plumb over, and I said, that's a charge
they show replayed, but all the the guy said, well
he might have moved a little a little colin hee
got ran plumb over. But to Larry, what do you
think about counting Perry? Is he going to make it?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Thank you for the call, Larry, I appreciate it. Uh, Larry,
I'm gonna let you answer that question first, and I
do want to ask you about the Kentucky effect or
the Brooks effect were why the respect is not being given?
But uh you think, I guess. I want you to answer.
It's your calcual make it question and we'll move on
after that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, I'm sure he'll make it because he can go
to the bank whenever they checks. I think he's gonna
make it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But no, I think I don't think Arkansas is going
to make the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't think those guys.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I mean, they were one of only two teams in
then SEC that hadn't won game. They got awful lot
of difficult games ahead, and I just think that that's
not gonna be And Jack may disagree, but I just
don't think that's gonna be the kind of team that's
gonna rally and say, let's let's win for Caliperry, let's
play here. I think they're in for a long next
(30:16):
month of the half.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Uh, Larry, I'm not Larry Jack. I'm gonna let you
respond to that before I go back to that women's
basketball question with Larry.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I remember just so vividly standing in the back of
the room, the press conference room after the Oakland loss.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Cal's talking about what the fix was, what the plan
was to write the ship and get things fixed in Lexington.
Uh And the first thing out of his mouth is, Hey,
we have a really really talented group coming in next
year that I'm really confident in to to kind of
get this thing back on track. And as he said that,
(30:55):
Mitch Barnhart I was standing right next to Mitch Barnhart
and He's shaking his head back and forth, like, Oh,
here we go and meet meet on a stick, dangling
out in front of us, just waiting for somebody to keep,
you know, keep pushing and pushing and pushing and trying
for it. So I guarantee you it's gonna be the
same same narrative where this team, oh well, you know,
the guys just weren't warrant what I thought they were
(31:16):
going to be. But hey, you hear about Malik Thomas
and Darius a. Cuff I got to five top five
five stars coming in that they are going to be
the reasons why this thing gets sticked. So we'll see
how gullible Arkansas fans are to to, you know, kind
of keep falling for that trap. But I'm just glad
that we're not going to have to listen to that
this offseason and try to explain why this team did
(31:39):
not make the ANSYA Tournament because that would have been
our team. That's kind of the weird reality of all
this is we watch an Arkansas game and you see
the starting lineup, and that very well could have been
the starting lineup in Lexington this year. So as down
as you may be about a five point loss to
a top five team in college basketball, for you know,
(32:00):
hit have been Final four national championship contender, you know,
with counter blasting, because it could be worse.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
See all that hype they had with all these players
coming in with Cal, and Cal is now in Arkansas
not doing anything. So when Mark stoops, when he cleans
house and brings in new guys, who's gonna listen, who's
gonna participate and be part of the big Blue Nation?
Then half faith half faith? So just changing just because
(32:27):
you said, well those gott are good. Everybody's leaving. Yeah,
they had to leave because they had us a four
and eight record. Now Cal has all those players over there.
He has a zero five record in the conference, So
take that. But Larry Vaught, who doesn't have a zero
five record in the conference, who's undefeated in the conferences?
Is coach Brooks? Is it fair to him to continue to?
(32:48):
I mean, and they have went over per due, win
over Louisville. There's some wins. But I'm kind of with
Larry for once. Rarely I'm with Larry. I'm kind of
with Larry for once. That is it Brook's not getting
respect because he's at Kentucky. Is not a Brooks fan?
Or is it just he hasn't shown enough yet?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know anthy.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think part of it might be TV schedules were
set before the season started, and maybe people weren't anticipating
Kentucky heaving.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
This kind of year made every think it's gonna be
more what has been going on.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It was kind of a wait and see, but I'm
a little surprised a few more things hadn't been changed around.
But the good thing, none of it seems to bother
Kenny Brooks. I think more and more fans are going
to come out to ruff Aerena to watch them play,
and we're just gonna have to get by with tune in.
Let Bow produce the game today. This listens on radio
if you need to, so that's not all.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Bad sin food Bow, send up a smoke signal, send food.
Bowl's gonna need food because he may be nestled in.
We will continue this conversation when we come back. You're
listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday when the sports Talk on
news Radio six thirty WLAP. This is the home the
Wildcats six thirty w L a P. We'll come back
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along
(34:07):
with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim. The uh the big
ass fans. Hotlines are still lit up. You can join
a five nine to eight zero two two eight seven
eight five nine to eight zero Cats, but you won't
be able to get on until at the top of
the hour because we have only one call that we
can take right now, and we're gonna get over there.
(34:28):
John Short, you're a great American. What do you got
for us?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Gin is? He know we lost for five points, but
room bounce back and we'll win. We bean to build
bus fifteen.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Bigins fifteen in Nashville. Yep, yeah, John Short, you may
stand alone with that thought this time. And I what
I I got my fingers crossed, So I'm gonna ride
with you.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
And we will beat Georgia Day fifteen. Bigas of women's basketball,
I give you that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Do you what do you think about Larry Vaught and
I were talking. You probably heard where you were on hold?
What what do you feel about the way our basketball
team is doing in the national recognition? We're good? Does
that upset you a little bit? Sticking your crawl a
little bit?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Yeah, So I think we need to tell that is more.
I think for the pluses that's ought to be for
teams like like Eastern West or something like Dad we
need that, or run like Mersus that needs me on
the pluses. But teams like anybody in the Southeast Conference,
they needs to be televised.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, I agree with you. But the Southeast, the Southeastern Conference,
as Larry Vault state, that does have a lot of
teams that's been traditionally good or well quite a few
that has been Traditionedcuse I ain't gonna say a lot,
uh in the women's side. So we are just now
starting to I think, tap into that because that is
part of the reason we had to change coaches. So
it was already predetermined, John Short, So we gotta we
(35:56):
gotta wait till next year to get some respect.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
I guess there's something you played with it, Jerry Red
y'all played with it, Jerry Reid that y'all played just
about minute ago.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Both says, yes, what was the name of that song?
Alabama Jubilee?
Speaker 8 (36:13):
I remember that song is a goodness.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Well, we appreciate that, and we appreciate your call. Mister
John Short, you are great American. Thank you, thank you. Uh.
Larry Vaughd, I did not think of that.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
We don't have a whole lot of time, so I'm
not I did not think of that. You got LSU
South Carolina, Old miss. There's some there are some dogs
in this conference where maybe that dictates where we play
as you You made a heck of a point that
the stick schedules already decided before the year started. The
schedule was decided before we've hired our coach. But you
(36:51):
still we still probably have to take the back seat
behind ls u uh old Miss South Carolina with some
of those quest or do you think next year they'll
rearrange some of that.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, I think they'll probably rearrange some of it next year,
So it'll be interesting to see how that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Comes to play.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
But again, I think it's hard to know how all
that's put together.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
And I do.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Think Kentucky deserves a little bit more, probably TV time
than what they get. They've had to play in some
odd starting times to give what TV time that they
have got. But the good thing is they're just winning
and rolling right along and it's not bothering them. So
we just have to suffer and make do the best
we can.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Really quickly before we go to break. I do want
to ask do you think you do you kind of
feel Vis marrow ish with our women team because you
did bring up Brooks doesn't mind the disrespect or whatever
kind of that chip on the shoulder. Do you think
that that kind of fuels him a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
In the girls, I think absolutely. I think they liked that.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And again, any little edge, as you know that you
can get even if it's not true, if you can
just make your players believe it's true, that's a good
thing for you. So I think that's probably something they've
kind of, you know, thrown around just a little bit.
But they'll get their chance. I mean later in the season,
they're going to hit a stretch it's going to really
really be difficult. So we'll see. They just need to
(38:19):
keep winning what they can do right now and hopefully
keep them self positioned where maybe they can host the
first round then GAA this year.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I agree with you. One person you don't want to
piss off is Georgia Amore. You don't want to piss
her off. So keep on, keep on doing what you're doing,
sec scheduling people, because if you piss her off, she's
going to continue to win. We will be back after this.
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