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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back Stockyards Banks Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry What that call
from Darren Hettrick thro chills up your spine? Larry Vaughton,
do you get a little chills every time they do
that when they do that scream of time leech and all.
When they do that screaming thing, man, it puts chills
up my spine.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Absolutely, And Anthony, I don't know. I don't think it's
kind of strange because I don't want you to. I
don't want to think that Tony Morgan has made people
kind of forget about Georgia and more. But you think
about it. I mean, Tony's already had a game where
she tied the school record with sixteen and six. She
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was brillan in the win and the road wind at Louisville,
has had a terrific game up there, and now she's
gone down and has just had one of the best
all around games I think any UK women's player has
had at number five LSU. So here we are in
early January and those three things that she's done, the
Kentucky's only lost one game, so I don't think we
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will ever forget George Amore, but I don't think I
ever dreamed at this point of the season you could
be saying, well, Kentucky might be might might be even
better at point guard this year they were last year.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, it is question or I don't want to spoil
our fan base to the point where, man, he's gonna
do that every year. We're just gonna reload, like like
Lanye Kevin does with quarterback. We're just gonna reload every year.
But you are absolutely right. You know, we thought what
you saw with Georgia was gonna be unmatched. And it's
funny when we talked to Tony and here, you know,
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she gave him a lot of respect. And they both
talked about Kenny Brooks the same way, like they both
had the same respect. They both like the challenge he
presented to him. They both like the pressure he applied
to him through practice that kind of goes over into
the game. So I'm I would be a gambling man
and gamble on the fact that Kenny Brooks will continue
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to raise the bar each time he brings a point
guard in. And this may not be the last time
you're going to say that, Larry. I didn't think this
one would better than the last one.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, and the and then and the next point guard
is going to be on campus today, Matt and Greenway,
who we have her and her father, Chad on with
us a couple of weeks ago. She's thinking made the
trip down here from up in Minnesota to watch Kentucky
play today. So I think that's the next great point
guard coming now. She'll be coming in as a true
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freshman versus the life two that he's had have been
proven college players when they got here with Georgia and
now Tony. But I think Matin is going to be
in line to be that next great point guard. Or
hopefully that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Hey, Larry, did you text Chad and tell them to
make sure he brings his shorts? It's warm down here
compared to Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But that's exactly directly. They'll take us that here with her.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, Jack Pilgrim, I know you still upset us. Know
you're still licking your wounds. You got your fingers crossed.
But did that feel good? Did you get a chill
up your spine?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I did it again even here. And then man, Darren
Hendrick what I call man?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
He needs to put that in his own, like he
needs to put that in his house on just a
loop where all his friends come over. He goes, hey, hey,
come over here, listen to this, and it's one of
those things you just play in the corner of your
room and it's like, listen to this call. That's personally
what I would do if I had something as great
as that. That that that moment for him, So shout
out Aaron Hendrick. But man, how special just a really
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special group that you know, that was kind of the
knock on Kenny. I wouldn't say the knock, but just
kind of a like, hey, can he do it without Georgia?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Aymore like it was very.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Easy to dream big with one of the best point
guards in college basketball year in, year out, and and
kind of getting the start on the right foot in
Lexington by bringing her along, it kind of gave him
just the ultimate safety net to just lean on her
to you know, do a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But the real test was going to come in year
two post Georgia, can you do it on your own
here at Kentucky? And man, yeah, like Larry said, is
the way Tony Morgan just picked up right where Georgia
left off and everything else kind of falling into place,
perfectly claristracting exactly as advertised as the All SEC, All American.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Big that she is.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Just it's an amazing group. I really thoroughly enjoy watching
watching them. And you know, I'm the men's basketball beat
writer for KSR, and I thoroughly enjoy doing that, enjoy
it much more whenever they're winning basketball games. But hey,
I'm having a heck of a time watching the women
as well.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And Larry Tony. As Tony keeps progressing, does it make
it easier or probably better for the Cats knowing that
you know they're going to have a start trying to
clog the lane so Tony can't get to the lane
to make sure Obi can't get to the lane, and
you know Tiany can also. But yet you could kick
it out to those same people. You can kick it
out the Hassett somewhere. Does the more notoriety or the
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more I guess, the more impressive Tony Morgan becomes in
the games going to make her teammates even that much
more valuable the further we get down the road.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think so. But the great thing about the women's
team is that they are so balanced. I mean, they've
got a legitimate star and Clara Strack in the middle
that you have to pay attention to. Johanna Key just
goes and dominates the boards for you. Obie can do.
She's not a great shooter, but she's a capable shooter.
But she could just bull her way to the base,
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getting at Asia Boo and at five three pointers the
other night and they survived with that hasset really happened
in one of her better games and yet still won.
And I know you're still worried about I'm playing too
many minutes. But to see what Kenny Brooks does, he
puts his best horses out there and he lets him run.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Hey man, thirty nine minutes is a long time, Larry fuck,
But I keep forget and how young these people are
And who was that was that Amelia who says she
sleeps twelve hours?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, yeah, she likes to get her sleep. And also everyone,
what can he told us about that? The factors in
how much they play in games as to what he
asked him to do in practice right right physically? So
I mean this has just always been his style. It's
always worked for him, and I don't know it is
kind of something nice that have your best players on
the court. I kind of like the way that works.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, and so today is going to be kind of
I guess gives some rest of these guys or do
you think he's a young ladies or do you think
he just keeps the keeps the pedal to the floor
that you know we're going to keep on Because I
thought about this, Larry, but I don't know how much,
because these young ladies are so much younger than we
are accustomed to being. We ain't been that young in
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a long time. Is at one point in the first quarter,
at one point I knew I was watching it right
in the first quarter, they were down by twelve points,
Larry vaull. Within the next five four and a.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Half, huh, I think it was fourteen to two.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, And in the next five four and a half
minutes they going a thirteen point run. Like you know,
LSU's probably they got him at home. You know, the
crowd is loud, and then you know they kind of
used to, you know, putting applying pressure, teams stressing, but
we didn't stress every time that Lsu would would take
the lead, and they had to lead for quite amount
of a good portion of the game from what I saw.
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I did watching them fast forward just because I had
a I didn't have a whole lot of time to
rewatch it, But that was the thing I was I
was more impressed about. Every time the LSU was would
take the leader to start pulling away, We'll find a
way to, you know, to bring the score back down.
But the biggest when I first started watching the game,
I was wondering, how do we win this game? Because
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I seen LSU take a twelve point lead early. I said, man,
how do we actually win this game? But I don't
know where you ever were. Is that something that you
expected or did that surprise.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You as well?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
How many times we reclaim the league or kept the
game play.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Kenny's teams just have a way of just hanging in
there and not panicking. And when they survived that early
fourteen to two knockout punch at LSU, thought it was
throwing and then kind of hung in there. But I
kind of thought they would say I didn't know that
they would win, but I thought they would stay in
the game that have maybe a change to win at
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the fourth quarter. And it was It was just really
fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And I don't Jack, I don't know if you got
a chance to watch the game or not, but there
were some stints where I thought, okay, unless she was
about to pull away and you see Kim Mokey over
there and just just digging into the young ladies on
their bench, and I'm just like, all right, we got
a chance. But what was your takeaway from the game,
especially even the last shot. I know Larry talked about
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the last shot, but the more you looked at the scene,
like the indecisiveness of the play and you're like, wow,
she just steps back like and no no rim or anything.
So I don't know if that was her playing, but
he worked out either way, and I.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Loved I just said, man, what went into the game?
You got Lane kiff in. They're doing there just like
wwe walk walk in and uh, she's you know, Kim Milk.
He's wearing her you know Sunday best. Like you could
just tell how much they wanted this one, uh and
they you know, it's the the arena was was absolutely
packed and it was just a hostile environment like that
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is a really really really tough team, uh to to
to beat and you give them credit because that the
culture speaks for itself down there, and and what what
Kim is uh, you know, built down in Baton Rouge
is one of one. So to go in there and
not let go of the rope. And there were so
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many opportunities for them to like go with the rope,
but to kind of just hang in there and keep
klawn and keep klawn and find your windows and take
advantage of your windows when you can. Uh, and then
man just to strike right at the right time, and
is lair.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He said that that countdown to the very end.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
With Tony's big shot, it was just kind of like, oh, man,
like do they have a plane here?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
What is the plan?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And then for I like seeing how calm Kenny Brooks
was there on the sideline, like I knew exactly what
was going to happen and had total faith in.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
His girl.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
So yeah, execution down the stretch man to say something
to very much appreciate. And they were averaging like one
hundred and four points a game going into that one.
LSU was so to limit them the way they did
and just win your way in that type of environment, man,
that's a Coach of the Year material.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Jack mentioned the WWE atmosphere at LSU the other night.
I've said it once and I will say it again.
Darren Headrick calling Kentucky basketball games. He is the gym
Ross of women's college basketball radio play by play. I
agree he is that good. And I think one of
the highest compliments that you can give a radio play
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by play broadcaster is it fan remembers where they were
at when they heard that call, what time, and exactly
what they were doing. And I will never forget listening
to Darren on my little five dollars radio that I
had bought at a yard sale, just kind of like
the old days. And as I said at the top
of the show, I was working on my uncle's tribute
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video for the funeral, and I stopped everything I was
doing for that last minute to listen to Darren Hendrick.
And I will never forget then. I just think it's
a huge compliment to his work and also the work
ethic that he puts in. Do yourself a favor and
tune into Darren Hendrick today. We'll have the game on
WLAP here.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Boy, we need well you go. Your history is a
lot further back than mind. We need to guess, get
the last uh, the last second calls for all the
big wins in UK history. Do I wonder how long
that would mean, but I would I would have to
invest my time to do that. I got you, Maybe
I got you and tell me what the ticket is.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Maybe that's something we can do over the summers, relived
some of those old play by play call because there
would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
To go through. That would be awesome, That would be great.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I'm up.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I'm up for doing it too.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Now I wouldn't put you up to that. You had
a two week break. Now, before the two week break,
I may have asked you, but no, we're not gonna
do that. Uh yeah, if you would like to join
the show eight five nine two eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine two eight zero caps we're
talking about Kentucky's eighty to seventy eight win over LSU
down in Baton, Ruge. We have Missouri today at twelve
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Speaker 1 (12:50):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
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Before we get you out here or before you leave, Jack,
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I did want to we're going to talk about the
rest of this show. We're gonna talk about women's basketball
on the next hour, but I did want to get
get a realistic perspective for you from you on the
men's team moving forward. Is any of this stuff recoverable?
Is Mark Pope, you know, playing mind games, Jedi mind
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tricks where you know, I'm trying things because some of
the things you he knows more about basketball, more about
basketball and probably all three of us put together. So
the things he's doing that doesn't make sense to the
common fan, even a even an expert beat rider like yourself,
it would it would be ludacrius to believe that he
doesn't know what he's doing. So maybe you know, he's
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getting the team together. See how people respond to adversity,
you know, you know the those coaches who do those
crazy like Rocky against Ivan Drago. Ivan Drogo had all
the neat equipment and you know, all this stuff, and
Rocky was in the meat on the meat hook, sitting
hitting the meat, running up and downstairs and things like that.
So where do you, like, realistically, where does this team stand.
Is it this that discombobulated or is this Jedi mia trip?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh yeah, I don't know if there is a like firm,
comfortable answer, Like I think that you can see the vision,
you know, as the chemistry picks up and they play more.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Together and all that, and like they.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
The pieces could start fitting a little bit better and
they start making shots and Jayden Quaint's looks more comfortable
on the floor, Jalen Low stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
You can talk yourself into it, but there is nothing
up to this point to suggest, like there's no evidence
to back up like, oh, well, this team is obviously
a top four seed and everybody else is seen this wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Like they're they're they're they're better than their record shows
that they are.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And they're you know, no, like they're they as things
stand right now, their resumes suggests this is not an
insuitably tournament team, and they should be at least somewhat
alerted by that and have some of the alarms signaling
in their heads that, hey, if we don't get this
figured out, I mean, Missouri just beat Florida last night,
So like, the No game is a total cake walk
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in this league. And yes, it can slip away from
you pretty darn quick with these two games a week
schedule in the league.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So yes, there's a path to where you know, I.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Think all dreams of this twenty two million dollars roster
being one that just steam rolls through college basketball and
wins the SEC regular season in a down year for
the league in general, and then goes win wins in
the SEC Tournament down in Nashville, and then goes on
a easy Final four run.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Those dreams are are probably over.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But now we've kind of settled in that next tier
of well, they're probably going to be a top twenty
to top forty team in college basketball. Do they you know,
finish strong and finish as a seven seed, eight seed,
nine seed something like that, and they you don't have
an Aaron Harrison run under their belt. Yeah, like that
stuff is all on the table. But that's that's kind
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of the frustration. That's not what Kentucky fans will promise.
That's not what you know, Mark Pope talking about this
team being a Ferrari and giving com you know, comparisons
to the ninety six team and rolling out the Danam
uniforms and all that stuff like this, this is not
what they what anybody thought this team was gonna be.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So it's a letdown. All of it is a letdown.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
But now it's about kind of salvaging that and making
games have to be played. There are seventeen more sec
games to be played one way or the other. So
are you gonna just roll over and die or are
we gonna try to make the most of this and
find new ways to win basketball games? Well, Mark Pope
has paid a lot of money to try to do
that and build an actual identity with this group and
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you know, stop worrying about feelings and the politics and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Win basketball games, establish an.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Identity and play your best players to give yourself as
your best chance. I feel like he's trying to wear
too many hats right now, and you know that is
probably the best way to accomplish the best case scenario
of these last seventeen games going into postseason.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So it's not dead yet. There's still plenty of times seven.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But there's also plenty of time for the wheels to
fall off in the train to derail and turn this
into a tragic mess.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So hopefully it goes the former solution than the latter.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Jack, you kind of answered my question I had for
you before we let you go. When do I hit
the panic button? Here on Jim January? When do I
hit it?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I mean I feel like it's fair to maybe not
smash it and pack up all your bags and run
out and try to reach safety. Quite yet, but this
was this was a pretty damning thing to build a roster.
I mean, Mark Poe built this roster with Alabama in mind. Hey,
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we're not going to get punked again by Alabama, and
then you get punked again at full strength by Alabama
where you're down twenty one points in the first half
and never truly competitive.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So yeah, there's you should be worried.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The puzzle pieces are just not fitting together right now.
Maybe it gets better as they get more practice time together.
But man, fourteen days between Saint John's and Alabama and
all that practice time, the two a days, all that stuff,
and that to be the product that they put out on.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
The floor after all the install on both ends of
the floor. It just it's it was not good enough.
Just that that product is not good enough.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
So as the kids say on YouTube, it's better. As
the kids say on YouTube, smashed that notification button. But
I'm smashing the panic button right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I won't hold it against you if you do.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Winning cures everything. Hopefully we have a win Wednesday against
Missouri and we can get back on the track. We'll
be back after this year. Listening to stock Yards Bank
Sunday one is sports talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 1 (19:23):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and Bo Robinson. Just our
Sunday morning sports talker is brought to you by a
country boy brewing Larry Vaught. I forgot to tell you
just so you know, and anybody else all my other
friends out there, so you know, and I don't want
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to take this wrong way before we get back to
women's basketball. But I love country Boy DH and those
guys over there who makes a great product, Larry Vat
for twenty twenty six, I gave up alcohol.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh okay, well, good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well I was going to do it by the time
me and my buddies made a pack, by the time
we're fifty, but I just felt like, I don't know,
it's got boring, so I don't I don't want to
be misleading if I make country Boy references because I
don't want people to think I'm just honest they see
me drinking.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Did you give up or are you just partaking in
dry January? No, I'm not partaking in dry January now,
I'm not. I'm not putting myself in rehabit. It's not
that I will partake in celebrations. I will partake in celebrations,
but not on a regular Sunday or you know, just
hanging out after work happy hour, none of those type things.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, just Howiday, just celebrations.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I've been that way for quite a few years.
Down myself not a non drinker. Just don't drink very often.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, well that's what I mean. Just like a vegetarian.
Isn't there like a vegetar where you can't eat some
things but just not then there's a strict vegetarian straight
leaves and that stuff grass.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, so I got you there. But one thing,
when we're still talking about Bow pushing the panic button,
I think it's kind of time to push it Bow,
because when you stop and think about over the last
thirty nine games, one on average, one out of every three games,
Kentucky's losing a ten or more points. One out of
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every five games on average, they're falling behind but twenty
or more points. Those are trends that aren't good. And
how long have we been talking about Kentucky basketball and
not being physical enough. I mean since the start of
last season. Right, This continues and continue And I don't
think you fix physicality. I mean, you don't get to
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January and suddenly say well we're just going to be
more physical. Knocker bake. You don't fix that. And I mean,
I think they've got a lot of troubles ahead. I
think Jack was cautiously optimistic, in my opinion about looking
out for this thing you said.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean, he did come in saying he wants to
take thirty three, So that doesn't really say physical, like
we're going to impose our will on teams are dominant.
But I will say I think you got it. I
think you you give away a lot if you want
to be physical, because I'm going to see if you
disagree with if you have if you have dear body,
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oh way, and Quaint's on the floor, there's no way
you can't be physical, right, But you also give up
a ton of scoring as well.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, Cluaintons didn't look too physically yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, but I thought they brought him away from the
basket quite a bit too, and he was he was
trying to guard outside of the cross side of the lane.
So I think that was my diet. I thought that
was about go ahead.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I don't know if you were watching the game
and if you heard Seth Greenberg, but I thought Seth
Greenberg and Anthony White can be buddies because what he
said about Kentucky was a their issue. Was said, no,
they don't have an offensive identity, they didn't have a
defensive identity, they had no identity. And I think how
many times we heard of Anthony now, but you've got
to have an identity no matter what the sport is.
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And I think that's right. Kentucky just doesn't have an
identity right now. And yeah, are they three point shooting?
Know they physical? Are they going to do this? Because
they don't have any of that? I don't even know
who they're who wants out there at what times? I mean,
you've brought Cam Williams and Jasper Johnson into be your shooters.
You can't shoot, and yet you don't play. I mean,
so just a lot of things you wonder about what's
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going on with this team. So I hope that Jack
tried him. Maybe they can get things fixed. But there's
a lot, a lot that has to be fixed in
a hurry.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
When Jaden Quaintin's made his Reperena debut a couple of
weeks ago, and I saw him, of course, I've seen
him up close a few times on the bench and everything.
His body type reminds me of Jamal mcglure. But then
I question is he as physical as Jamal mcglure.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Wait a minute, what's Jamal Maglore? How many years wuld
Jamalmaglore here? Two or three?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I believe he would say here three.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, So the difference you're talking about, he looks like
the third Juma mcgle I was in school with Jamal.
He didn't look like that in his freshman year. Well
his eighth Well I guess is Jade only still only eighteen?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
But my point is I questioned a big guy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, with the.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Physical attributes Tarzan and Jane and everybody quote remember that
quote from Tubby? But does he play as physical as
Jamal mcglore did?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That was my point. So we're gonna we're gonna disregard
the fact he's coming off an injury. Larry Vaught and
Jet and uh Bo.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
No, I'm keeping that in mind, but I wanted to see,
you know, at what point does he become more physical?
Let me ask you, Anthony, was physical play ever an
issue for you or any of your teammates going all
the way back to high school?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well? I was lighting ass. So I was a physical
as I could be. I will tell you any coach
that coached me will say at whatever, I was one
hundred and eighty some pounds a running back both but
I would throw one hundred and eighty five pounds in there.
Whether it helped. It helped. So I was a physical
I could be. In high school, I was very physical
because I was bigger than the average player in my position.
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But in college I tried to be physical. But I
wouldn't know. I don't think anyone would say, yeah, he's
a physical specimen. But I think that's the idea. Whatever
your physical is. And if I had James Quainton's size,
I think my physical would look a lot different than
my physical, just my physical at one hundred and eighty
five pounds. So there's that. But Larry vaul I did
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want to piggyback off of your comments about having an
identity you think about it, go back to an Oscar.
Oscar the black hole was kind of the identity and
it didn't work out with wheel or whatever. Then you
come off the identity where we're just gonna shoot from outside,
We're just gonna we're just gonna bomb your weight. Then
you got the dribble drive where you got guys just
getting to the bucket. But those are all identities. We
know what you're expected to do, we know what you're
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gonna do, and everybody on the floor knows that. But
everybody on the floor knew that if we throw the
ball inside the Oscar, she ways not coming back out.
And that kind of limited Wheeler because once you get
the ball in the black hole, or once Oscar's trying
to position himself on the block, everybody's in the lane,
so Wheeler can't get to the lane. Wheeler's weakness is
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shooting three pointers. So that affected us. But they did
have an identity, so we knew what they were trying
to do. So were we gonna win or fail by it?
So you're absolutely right with this team. You know, we
were supposed to be physical, we don't get the ball inside.
We were supposed to be able to play five out
in some instances, especially with Moreno on the floor, we
could play five out. Garrison knocked down some shots earlier,
and I would assume that Pope wouldn't know. In certain
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games we have to change the lineup. If you know,
if we're having an off day inside or they're more
physical inside, I guess you may have to go in
there and change their minds about being physical, or you
gonna put in the lineup that can light it up
from outside. But right now, like you said, I think
I don't know if it's the lack of translation between
with Marcus trying to trying to get the guys to understand,
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or if the guys don't know how to receive it
or don't have the IQ to process with Marcus saying,
or they just don't give a darn and that happens. Well,
I mean that happens as well. I know that happened
in football a couple of times. But the other thing
is Larry Vaut before we get to the phone lines.
The other thing is same as in football, do we
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have a leader? Do you who's the person that you
know when there's a tough player, you know, calls in
the huddle and they or someone's doing wrong, call you out.
I don't know if that that stuff in the locker
room is fake, real news whatever everybody's saying it's fake news, whatever.
It'll probably be brought out the end of the season,
whether it was or not. But even the same thing
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I say in football, there's no real leader on here.
I guess it's supposed to be ol Way, but I
don't really see him playing that role. I think is
you know, just maybe because of the SHD distribution or
maybe the paycheck distribution, that there's not that type of
respect for each other. But who would you go, say,
the leader on the team if there's an issue on
the floor or otherwise.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't think they have a clear cut leader. I
think you would like to think that the point guard
Jayalen Lowe could be that guy, but he's not really
that big physical guy that he's been hurt so much.
It's hard to be a leader when you're not out
there all the time or know how long you're going
to be out there. I think Otega would have been
a pretty logical choice, but you've got to have a
guy that bust his button, plays hard all the time
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like he did last year, and I just don't think
that's the Otaga we've seen at times this year. I
think there are times he does that, but not for
forty minutes or thirty five minutes a game or something
like that. So I think they are kind of leaderless
right now, and I think it's very obvious when you
kind of look out there. But then again, I think
also when maybe you don't understand what your role is
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or what the other guy's roles are at all, like that,
it can maybe make it hard to be a leader too.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I agree with you and those are things I think
are going to be hashed out if we want to
change the trajectory in the direction of this scene right now.
So and I don't like I said again, that's nothing
we're telling Mark Pope. I'm just curious. I want I'm
going to stick to my guns. I'm going to say
it's a Jedi mind trick and we look discombobulated, just
to get everybody off balance so we can make the
Kimber Rock the Kimba Walker running march. Let's get to
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the phone lines and see what Alvin has to say.
Good morning, Alvin, what do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Good morning? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm doing good? Happy twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Six man, right back at you. I'm enjoying your show.
So did you give you turn to cold turkey to
give up wild turkey on drinking?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
That was good.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
If you just stopped drinking, you gave us like I
feel like you gave up wild turkey to stop stop drinking.
It's you know, Anthony, we talk about you know, you know,
we talk about sports, and we look every week to
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hope that it gets better. With nil that seems to
be challenging to the collegiate sport as we see it.
Nick Saban gave some very good points on the ESPN
Studio one last week about that it needs to be changed.
He said that the NCAA is broken, that it doesn't
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have any answers to fix the calendar, to fix kids
from you know, moving back and forth. And then we
take and tunk Mark Pope with the roster of having
a twenty two million dollar nil roster and those particular
players that are getting paid. It's not translating as good
play on the floor. You look at the Alabama game yesterday.
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You couldn't stop threes and you couldn't hit threes, which
is a negative negative, and if you have that as
a negative negative, you can continue to lose by double
digit points. And that's what we're seeing translated her. You
don't have an alpha dog leader similar to the Ava
Hudson lead volleyball team where she being pormed her team
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to not give up, not give in, but to complay
to win. We just we don't have that on this
particular team right now. And I think that it's extremely
important that someone emerged as a as a leader. It's
important that Mark Pope come up with a fix on
his lineups. And that way he won't have to have
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no tough questions during the press conference from Jack Pilgrim
and others. So at this point, what does this team
need to do to create an identity to a guys
in Sports Center and even Nate o'syesterday said that the
kids don't know how the Kentucky players do not have
gonna have to pass the ball? What changes need to
be made to get this team going to sort of
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quiet a fan base that is speaking in terms of
Billy Gillespie records and that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I appreciate the call, Alvin, And if you would like
to join the show, just like Alvin, you can join
the show eight five nine to eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine to eight zero Cats, Larry Vaught,
We're gonna put a pin in that you think about that,
what is the what is it going to take for
the team to build this identity? And we'll discuss that
on the other side of the break. You're listening to
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Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six
thirty WLAP.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 1 (32:44):
LAP Welcome back, Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Larry Vault and Bo Robinson. Douglass.
I'm sorry we got you called off. We don't have
a whole lot and I hate to put people up
against the break. So Douglas call us back at eleven
oh five because we want to hear what you got
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to say. And plus we look for all the silver
linings we can find outside of Kenny Brooks and his squad.
Because Larry varb before we want to break, Alvin asked,
what is it going to take to get our identity.
I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna see if you agree,
and you can add or take away whatever you like
to take from it. I think step number one and
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this would really conclude or identify whether there is a
locker room issue or not. And I've told you this
for years. If there's a locker room issue, it is
the worst thing ever for many reasons. Two of the
biggest reasons are one, if there's a locker room issue
and the coach lets it goes on, it is just
going to grow. If there's a locker room too. If
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there's a locker room issue and the players take sides,
then you just have a huger problem because it may
not ever get to the coach. The best thing that
can happen if you have a lockeroo issue, there are
people in the locker room to diffuse that problem and
make everybody sing cool by y'all hold hands, hug lock
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him in the room for twenty four hours, whatever the
case might be. But look, we're not going to do this.
And as I told you a couple of times, there
were several fights in the dorm rooms when I was
a sophomore in the freshman because I moved off campus.
Mind I think the end of the summer of my
sophomore year. But when guys had a beef, we were
rope off part of curving one. And Chad can tell
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you because Chad follows us on social media. He's he
was a RA and we so we would monitor it.
Where I'm talking about his bare fist the cuff like
the things you see on YouTube. In the backyard brawls,
nobody really ever got really bloody or really really hurt.
I think one player punched the wall and wound up
messing up his knuckles or whatever. But we all right,
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they shake hands and it's oh, we don't want to
hear any more about it. That's I'm not saying, and
that's what's going on with UK basketball. But you have
to have a leader, someone who could defuse the tension,
someone they can look to when the times are hard
on the court off the court. But as you stated earlier,
it has to be someone who's experience experiencing success, typically
someone who has a big stature, or someone who controls
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the temple of the game, which is typically a point guard.
So I think the number one thing Mark Pope can do,
and he can do that he can make someone man,
put them in position to be the man and tell
you the team. But they have to have all the qualities.
So I think that's his first step, and then he
can identify what kind of offense he wants to run,
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because that way he can make that person either responsible
for the offense or where they're most effective with the offense. Larry,
it's not here, Bo, Do you agree because Larry is
not here.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I don't hear Larry, which makes me think he's not here,
and I thought he was.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I'm saying you you are probably a bigger UK basketball
fan than I am, and Alvin was asking what do
we think the identity, what do we think needs to
improve to help the identity of the basketball team. We
only have a minute, but I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
If you listen to what I said in and out
and I was working the lines too, But I think
leadership just how you described.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It, and do you think that Mark Pope needs to identify?
And that's that was my I think that's my point
to save Mark tail the rest of the season, and
you know, just to get identity. I think he he
makes someone the focal point and it may be oh Way,
he may have to groom a way on how to
do it because of all the hype Allway had coming
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in and he's sec player of the Year candidate, so
that would be the easy pick as long again as
I say, as long as there is no locker room
tension between him and anyone else.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Are you forcing the identity? Yes, team, how do you
do that? And I'm just asking how do you force
an identity on a team where here we are mid
season and we're still with a full healthy roster and
we're still unsure what we got.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That is true, and that is why I'm a little
bit disappointed, but I think Mark Pope came in with
a plan. His plan did not get executed. It got
injured along with the injuries. So I think he has
to reinvent himself because, yeah, most coaches don't change that game.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He's done that before, he did it at BYU.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So we'll see if that's gonna work. We're going to
try to find out way, Larry Vaught said, Larry Vaut,
turn your phone, charge your phone and get it from
your grandson. Whatever you got to do. We'll be back
after this year. Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday when the
Sports Talk on news radio six thirty w l A p.
Welcome back Stockyards Banks Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry What that call
from Darren Hettrick thro chills up your spine? Larry Vaughton,
do you get a little chills every time they do
that when they do that scream of time leech and all.
When they do that screaming thing, man, it puts chills
up my spine.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Absolutely, And Anthony, I don't know. I don't think it's
kind of strange because I don't want you to. I
don't want to think that Tony Morgan has made people
kind of forget about Georgia and more. But you think
about it. I mean, Tony's already had a game where
she tied the school record with sixteen and six. She
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was brillan in the win and the road wind at Louisville,
has had a terrific game up there, and now she's
gone down and has just had one of the best
all around games I think any UK women's player has
had at number five LSU. So here we are in
early January and those three things that she's done, the
Kentucky's only lost one game, so I don't think we
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will ever forget George Amore, but I don't think I
ever dreamed at this point of the season you could
be saying, well, Kentucky might be might might be even
better at point guard this year they were last year.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, it is question or I don't want to spoil
our fan base to the point where, man, he's gonna
do that every year. We're just gonna reload, like like
Lanye Kevin does with quarterback. We're just gonna reload every year.
But you are absolutely right. You know, we thought what
you saw with Georgia was gonna be unmatched. And it's
funny when we talked to Tony and here, you know,
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she gave him a lot of respect. And they both
talked about Kenny Brooks the same way, like they both
had the same respect. They both like the challenge he
presented to him. They both like the pressure he applied
to him through practice that kind of goes over into
the game. So I'm I would be a gambling man
and gamble on the fact that Kenny Brooks will continue
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to raise the bar each time he brings a point
guard in. And this may not be the last time
you're going to say that, Larry. I didn't think this
one would better than the last one.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, and the and then and the next point guard
is going to be on campus today, Matt and Greenway,
who we have her and her father, Chad on with
us a couple of weeks ago. She's thinking made the
trip down here from up in Minnesota to watch Kentucky
play today. So I think that's the next great point
guard coming now. She'll be coming in as a true
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freshman versus the life two that he's had have been
proven college players when they got here with Georgia and
now Tony. But I think Matin is going to be
in line to be that next great point guard. Or
hopefully that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Hey, Larry, did you text Chad and tell them to
make sure he brings his shorts? It's warm down here
compared to Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But that's exactly directly. They'll take us that here with her.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, Jack Pilgrim, I know you still upset us. Know
you're still licking your wounds. You got your fingers crossed.
But did that feel good? Did you get a chill
up your spine?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I did it again even here. And then man, Darren
Hendrick what I call man?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
He needs to put that in his own, like he
needs to put that in his house on just a
loop where all his friends come over. He goes, hey, hey,
come over here, listen to this, and it's one of
those things you just play in the corner of your
room and it's like, listen to this call. That's personally
what I would do if I had something as great
as that. That that that moment for him, So shout
out Aaron Hendrick. But man, how special just a really
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special group that you know, that was kind of the
knock on Kenny. I wouldn't say the knock, but just
kind of a like, hey, can he do it without Georgia?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Aymore like it was very.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Easy to dream big with one of the best point
guards in college basketball year in, year out, and and
kind of getting the start on the right foot in
Lexington by bringing her along, it kind of gave him
just the ultimate safety net to just lean on her
to you know, do a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But the real test was going to come in year
two post Georgia, can you do it on your own
here at Kentucky? And man, yeah, like Larry said, is
the way Tony Morgan just picked up right where Georgia
left off and everything else kind of falling into place,
perfectly claristracting exactly as advertised as the All SEC, All American.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Big that she is.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Just it's an amazing group. I really thoroughly enjoy watching
watching them. And you know, I'm the men's basketball beat
writer for KSR, and I thoroughly enjoy doing that, enjoy
it much more whenever they're winning basketball games. But hey,
I'm having a heck of a time watching the women
as well.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And Larry Tony. As Tony keeps progressing, does it make
it easier or probably better for the Cats knowing that
you know they're going to have a start trying to
clog the lane so Tony can't get to the lane
to make sure Obi can't get to the lane, and
you know Tiany can also. But yet you could kick
it out to those same people. You can kick it
out the Hassett somewhere. Does the more notoriety or the
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more I guess, the more impressive Tony Morgan becomes in
the games going to make her teammates even that much
more valuable the further we get down the road.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think so. But the great thing about the women's
team is that they are so balanced. I mean, they've
got a legitimate star and Clara Strack in the middle
that you have to pay attention to. Johanna Key just
goes and dominates the boards for you. Obie can do.
She's not a great shooter, but she's a capable shooter.
But she could just bull her way to the base,
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getting at Asia Boo and at five three pointers the
other night and they survived with that hasset really happened
in one of her better games and yet still won.
And I know you're still worried about I'm playing too
many minutes. But to see what Kenny Brooks does, he
puts his best horses out there and he lets him run.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Hey man, thirty nine minutes is a long time, Larry fuck,
But I keep forget and how young these people are
And who was that was that Amelia who says she
sleeps twelve hours?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, yeah, she likes to get her sleep. And also everyone,
what can he told us about that? The factors in
how much they play in games as to what he
asked him to do in practice right right physically? So
I mean this has just always been his style. It's
always worked for him, and I don't know it is
kind of something nice that have your best players on
the court. I kind of like the way that works.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, and so today is going to be kind of
I guess gives some rest of these guys or do
you think he's a young ladies or do you think
he just keeps the keeps the pedal to the floor
that you know we're going to keep on Because I
thought about this, Larry, but I don't know how much,
because these young ladies are so much younger than we
are accustomed to being. We ain't been that young in
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a long time. Is at one point in the first quarter,
at one point I knew I was watching it right
in the first quarter, they were down by twelve points,
Larry vaull. Within the next five four and a.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Half, huh, I think it was fourteen to two.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, And in the next five four and a half
minutes they going a thirteen point run. Like you know,
LSU's probably they got him at home. You know, the
crowd is loud, and then you know they kind of
used to, you know, putting applying pressure, teams stressing, but
we didn't stress every time that Lsu would would take
the lead, and they had to lead for quite amount
of a good portion of the game from what I saw.
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I did watching them fast forward just because I had
a I didn't have a whole lot of time to
rewatch it, But that was the thing I was I
was more impressed about. Every time the LSU was would
take the leader to start pulling away, We'll find a
way to, you know, to bring the score back down.
But the biggest when I first started watching the game,
I was wondering, how do we win this game? Because
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I seen LSU take a twelve point lead early. I said, man,
how do we actually win this game? But I don't
know where you ever were. Is that something that you
expected or did that surprise.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You as well?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
How many times we reclaim the league or kept the
game play.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Kenny's teams just have a way of just hanging in
there and not panicking. And when they survived that early
fourteen to two knockout punch at LSU, thought it was
throwing and then kind of hung in there. But I
kind of thought they would say I didn't know that
they would win, but I thought they would stay in
the game that have maybe a change to win at
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the fourth quarter. And it was It was just really
fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And I don't Jack, I don't know if you got
a chance to watch the game or not, but there
were some stints where I thought, okay, unless she was
about to pull away and you see Kim Mokey over
there and just just digging into the young ladies on
their bench, and I'm just like, all right, we got
a chance. But what was your takeaway from the game,
especially even the last shot. I know Larry talked about
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the last shot, but the more you looked at the scene,
like the indecisiveness of the play and you're like, wow,
she just steps back like and no no rim or anything.
So I don't know if that was her playing, but
he worked out either way, and I.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Loved I just said, man, what went into the game?
You got Lane kiff in. They're doing there just like
wwe walk walk in and uh, she's you know, Kim Milk.
He's wearing her you know Sunday best. Like you could
just tell how much they wanted this one, uh and
they you know, it's the the arena was was absolutely
packed and it was just a hostile environment like that
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is a really really really tough team, uh to to
to beat and you give them credit because that the
culture speaks for itself down there, and and what what
Kim is uh, you know, built down in Baton Rouge
is one of one. So to go in there and
not let go of the rope. And there were so
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many opportunities for them to like go with the rope,
but to kind of just hang in there and keep
klawn and keep klawn and find your windows and take
advantage of your windows when you can. Uh, and then
man just to strike right at the right time, and
is lair.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He said that that countdown to the very end.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
With Tony's big shot, it was just kind of like, oh, man,
like do they have a plane here?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
What is the plan?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And then for I like seeing how calm Kenny Brooks
was there on the sideline, like I knew exactly what
was going to happen and had total faith in.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
His girl.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
So yeah, execution down the stretch man to say something
to very much appreciate. And they were averaging like one
hundred and four points a game going into that one.
LSU was so to limit them the way they did
and just win your way in that type of environment, man,
that's a Coach of the Year material.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Jack mentioned the WWE atmosphere at LSU the other night.
I've said it once and I will say it again.
Darren Headrick calling Kentucky basketball games. He is the gym
Ross of women's college basketball radio play by play. I
agree he is that good. And I think one of
the highest compliments that you can give a radio play
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by play broadcaster is it fan remembers where they were
at when they heard that call, what time, and exactly
what they were doing. And I will never forget listening
to Darren on my little five dollars radio that I
had bought at a yard sale, just kind of like
the old days. And as I said at the top
of the show, I was working on my uncle's tribute
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video for the funeral, and I stopped everything I was
doing for that last minute to listen to Darren Hendrick.
And I will never forget then. I just think it's
a huge compliment to his work and also the work
ethic that he puts in. Do yourself a favor and
tune into Darren Hendrick today. We'll have the game on
WLAP here.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Boy, we need well you go. Your history is a
lot further back than mind. We need to guess, get
the last uh, the last second calls for all the
big wins in UK history. Do I wonder how long
that would mean, but I would I would have to
invest my time to do that. I got you, Maybe
I got you and tell me what the ticket is.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Maybe that's something we can do over the summers, relived
some of those old play by play call because there
would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
To go through. That would be awesome, That would be great.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I'm up.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I'm up for doing it too.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Now I wouldn't put you up to that. You had
a two week break. Now, before the two week break,
I may have asked you, but no, we're not gonna
do that. Uh yeah, if you would like to join
the show eight five nine two eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine two eight zero caps we're
talking about Kentucky's eighty to seventy eight win over LSU
down in Baton, Ruge. We have Missouri today at twelve
at Memorial College Seum. Head on over there, or you're
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gonna watch it on SEC network or listen to it
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Before we get you out here or before you leave, Jack,
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I did want to we're going to talk about the
rest of this show. We're gonna talk about women's basketball
on the next hour, but I did want to get
get a realistic perspective for you from you on the
men's team moving forward. Is any of this stuff recoverable?
Is Mark Pope, you know, playing mind games, Jedi mind
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tricks where you know, I'm trying things because some of
the things you he knows more about basketball, more about
basketball and probably all three of us put together. So
the things he's doing that doesn't make sense to the
common fan, even a even an expert beat rider like yourself,
it would it would be ludacrius to believe that he
doesn't know what he's doing. So maybe you know, he's
(13:56):
getting the team together. See how people respond to adversity,
you know, you know the those coaches who do those
crazy like Rocky against Ivan Drago. Ivan Drogo had all
the neat equipment and you know, all this stuff, and
Rocky was in the meat on the meat hook, sitting
hitting the meat, running up and downstairs and things like that.
So where do you, like, realistically, where does this team stand.
Is it this that discombobulated or is this Jedi mia trip?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh yeah, I don't know if there is a like firm,
comfortable answer, Like I think that you can see the vision,
you know, as the chemistry picks up and they play more.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Together and all that, and like they.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
The pieces could start fitting a little bit better and
they start making shots and Jayden Quaint's looks more comfortable
on the floor, Jalen Low stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
You can talk yourself into it, but there is nothing
up to this point to suggest, like there's no evidence
to back up like, oh, well, this team is obviously
a top four seed and everybody else is seen this wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Like they're they're they're they're better than their record shows
that they are.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And they're you know, no, like they're they as things
stand right now, their resumes suggests this is not an
insuitably tournament team, and they should be at least somewhat
alerted by that and have some of the alarms signaling
in their heads that, hey, if we don't get this
figured out, I mean, Missouri just beat Florida last night,
So like, the No game is a total cake walk
(15:26):
in this league. And yes, it can slip away from
you pretty darn quick with these two games a week
schedule in the league.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So yes, there's a path to where you know, I.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Think all dreams of this twenty two million dollars roster
being one that just steam rolls through college basketball and
wins the SEC regular season in a down year for
the league in general, and then goes win wins in
the SEC Tournament down in Nashville, and then goes on
a easy Final four run.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Those dreams are are probably over.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But now we've kind of settled in that next tier
of well, they're probably going to be a top twenty
to top forty team in college basketball. Do they you know,
finish strong and finish as a seven seed, eight seed,
nine seed something like that, and they you don't have
an Aaron Harrison run under their belt. Yeah, like that
stuff is all on the table. But that's that's kind
(16:21):
of the frustration. That's not what Kentucky fans will promise.
That's not what you know, Mark Pope talking about this
team being a Ferrari and giving com you know, comparisons
to the ninety six team and rolling out the Danam
uniforms and all that stuff like this, this is not
what they what anybody thought this team was gonna be.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So it's a letdown. All of it is a letdown.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
But now it's about kind of salvaging that and making
games have to be played. There are seventeen more sec
games to be played one way or the other. So
are you gonna just roll over and die or are
we gonna try to make the most of this and
find new ways to win basketball games? Well, Mark Pope
has paid a lot of money to try to do
that and build an actual identity with this group and
(17:01):
you know, stop worrying about feelings and the politics and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Win basketball games, establish an.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Identity and play your best players to give yourself as
your best chance. I feel like he's trying to wear
too many hats right now, and you know that is
probably the best way to accomplish the best case scenario
of these last seventeen games going into postseason.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So it's not dead yet. There's still plenty of times seven.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But there's also plenty of time for the wheels to
fall off in the train to derail and turn this
into a tragic mess.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So hopefully it goes the former solution than the latter.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Jack, you kind of answered my question I had for
you before we let you go. When do I hit
the panic button? Here on Jim January? When do I
hit it?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I mean I feel like it's fair to maybe not
smash it and pack up all your bags and run
out and try to reach safety. Quite yet, but this
was this was a pretty damning thing to build a roster.
I mean, Mark Poe built this roster with Alabama in mind. Hey,
(18:09):
we're not going to get punked again by Alabama, and
then you get punked again at full strength by Alabama
where you're down twenty one points in the first half
and never truly competitive.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So yeah, there's you should be worried.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The puzzle pieces are just not fitting together right now.
Maybe it gets better as they get more practice time together.
But man, fourteen days between Saint John's and Alabama and
all that practice time, the two a days, all that stuff,
and that to be the product that they put out on.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
The floor after all the install on both ends of
the floor. It just it's it was not good enough.
Just that that product is not good enough.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
So as the kids say on YouTube, it's better. As
the kids say on YouTube, smashed that notification button. But
I'm smashing the panic button right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I won't hold it against you if you do.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Winning cures everything. Hopefully we have a win Wednesday against
Missouri and we can get back on the track. We'll
be back after this year. Listening to stock Yards Bank
Sunday one is sports talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Barge Radio Network on six thirty w LAP.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and Bo Robinson. Just our
Sunday morning sports talker is brought to you by a
country boy brewing Larry Vaught. I forgot to tell you
just so you know, and anybody else all my other
friends out there, so you know, and I don't want
(19:43):
to take this wrong way before we get back to
women's basketball. But I love country Boy DH and those
guys over there who makes a great product, Larry Vat
for twenty twenty six, I gave up alcohol.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh okay, well, good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well I was going to do it by the time
me and my buddies made a pack, by the time
we're fifty, but I just felt like, I don't know,
it's got boring, so I don't I don't want to
be misleading if I make country Boy references because I
don't want people to think I'm just honest they see
me drinking.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Did you give up or are you just partaking in
dry January? No, I'm not partaking in dry January now,
I'm not. I'm not putting myself in rehabit. It's not
that I will partake in celebrations. I will partake in celebrations,
but not on a regular Sunday or you know, just
hanging out after work happy hour, none of those type things.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, just Howiday, just celebrations.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I've been that way for quite a few years.
Down myself not a non drinker. Just don't drink very often.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, well that's what I mean. Just like a vegetarian.
Isn't there like a vegetar where you can't eat some
things but just not then there's a strict vegetarian straight
leaves and that stuff grass.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, so I got you there. But one thing,
when we're still talking about Bow pushing the panic button,
I think it's kind of time to push it Bow,
because when you stop and think about over the last
thirty nine games, one on average, one out of every three games,
Kentucky's losing a ten or more points. One out of
(21:21):
every five games on average, they're falling behind but twenty
or more points. Those are trends that aren't good. And
how long have we been talking about Kentucky basketball and
not being physical enough. I mean since the start of
last season. Right, This continues and continue And I don't
think you fix physicality. I mean, you don't get to
(21:42):
January and suddenly say well we're just going to be
more physical. Knocker bake. You don't fix that. And I mean,
I think they've got a lot of troubles ahead. I
think Jack was cautiously optimistic, in my opinion about looking
out for this thing you said.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean, he did come in saying he wants to
take thirty three, So that doesn't really say physical, like
we're going to impose our will on teams are dominant.
But I will say I think you got it. I
think you you give away a lot if you want
to be physical, because I'm going to see if you
disagree with if you have if you have dear body,
(22:18):
oh way, and Quaint's on the floor, there's no way
you can't be physical, right, But you also give up
a ton of scoring as well.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, Cluaintons didn't look too physically yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, but I thought they brought him away from the
basket quite a bit too, and he was he was
trying to guard outside of the cross side of the lane.
So I think that was my diet. I thought that
was about go ahead.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I don't know if you were watching the game
and if you heard Seth Greenberg, but I thought Seth
Greenberg and Anthony White can be buddies because what he
said about Kentucky was a their issue. Was said, no,
they don't have an offensive identity, they didn't have a
defensive identity, they had no identity. And I think how
many times we heard of Anthony now, but you've got
to have an identity no matter what the sport is.
(23:03):
And I think that's right. Kentucky just doesn't have an
identity right now. And yeah, are they three point shooting?
Know they physical? Are they going to do this? Because
they don't have any of that? I don't even know
who they're who wants out there at what times? I mean,
you've brought Cam Williams and Jasper Johnson into be your shooters.
You can't shoot, and yet you don't play. I mean,
so just a lot of things you wonder about what's
(23:24):
going on with this team. So I hope that Jack
tried him. Maybe they can get things fixed. But there's
a lot, a lot that has to be fixed in
a hurry.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
When Jaden Quaintin's made his Reperena debut a couple of
weeks ago, and I saw him, of course, I've seen
him up close a few times on the bench and everything.
His body type reminds me of Jamal mcglure. But then
I question is he as physical as Jamal mcglure.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Wait a minute, what's Jamal Maglore? How many years wuld
Jamalmaglore here? Two or three?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I believe he would say here three.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, So the difference you're talking about, he looks like
the third Juma mcgle I was in school with Jamal.
He didn't look like that in his freshman year. Well
his eighth Well I guess is Jade only still only eighteen?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
But my point is I questioned a big guy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, with the.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Physical attributes Tarzan and Jane and everybody quote remember that
quote from Tubby? But does he play as physical as
Jamal mcglore did?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That was my point. So we're gonna we're gonna disregard
the fact he's coming off an injury. Larry Vaught and
Jet and uh Bo.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
No, I'm keeping that in mind, but I wanted to see,
you know, at what point does he become more physical?
Let me ask you, Anthony, was physical play ever an
issue for you or any of your teammates going all
the way back to high school?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well? I was lighting ass. So I was a physical
as I could be. I will tell you any coach
that coached me will say at whatever, I was one
hundred and eighty some pounds a running back both but
I would throw one hundred and eighty five pounds in there.
Whether it helped. It helped. So I was a physical
I could be. In high school, I was very physical
because I was bigger than the average player in my position.
(25:13):
But in college I tried to be physical. But I
wouldn't know. I don't think anyone would say, yeah, he's
a physical specimen. But I think that's the idea. Whatever
your physical is. And if I had James Quainton's size,
I think my physical would look a lot different than
my physical, just my physical at one hundred and eighty
five pounds. So there's that. But Larry vaul I did
(25:38):
want to piggyback off of your comments about having an
identity you think about it, go back to an Oscar.
Oscar the black hole was kind of the identity and
it didn't work out with wheel or whatever. Then you
come off the identity where we're just gonna shoot from outside,
We're just gonna we're just gonna bomb your weight. Then
you got the dribble drive where you got guys just
getting to the bucket. But those are all identities. We
know what you're expected to do, we know what you're
(25:59):
gonna do, and everybody on the floor knows that. But
everybody on the floor knew that if we throw the
ball inside the Oscar, she ways not coming back out.
And that kind of limited Wheeler because once you get
the ball in the black hole, or once Oscar's trying
to position himself on the block, everybody's in the lane,
so Wheeler can't get to the lane. Wheeler's weakness is
(26:21):
shooting three pointers. So that affected us. But they did
have an identity, so we knew what they were trying
to do. So were we gonna win or fail by it?
So you're absolutely right with this team. You know, we
were supposed to be physical, we don't get the ball inside.
We were supposed to be able to play five out
in some instances, especially with Moreno on the floor, we
could play five out. Garrison knocked down some shots earlier,
and I would assume that Pope wouldn't know. In certain
(26:43):
games we have to change the lineup. If you know,
if we're having an off day inside or they're more
physical inside, I guess you may have to go in
there and change their minds about being physical, or you
gonna put in the lineup that can light it up
from outside. But right now, like you said, I think
I don't know if it's the lack of translation between
with Marcus trying to trying to get the guys to understand,
(27:06):
or if the guys don't know how to receive it
or don't have the IQ to process with Marcus saying,
or they just don't give a darn and that happens. Well,
I mean that happens as well. I know that happened
in football a couple of times. But the other thing
is Larry Vaut before we get to the phone lines.
The other thing is same as in football, do we
(27:29):
have a leader? Do you who's the person that you
know when there's a tough player, you know, calls in
the huddle and they or someone's doing wrong, call you out.
I don't know if that that stuff in the locker
room is fake, real news whatever everybody's saying it's fake news, whatever.
It'll probably be brought out the end of the season,
whether it was or not. But even the same thing
(27:49):
I say in football, there's no real leader on here.
I guess it's supposed to be ol Way, but I
don't really see him playing that role. I think is
you know, just maybe because of the SHD distribution or
maybe the paycheck distribution, that there's not that type of
respect for each other. But who would you go, say,
the leader on the team if there's an issue on
the floor or otherwise.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't think they have a clear cut leader. I
think you would like to think that the point guard
Jayalen Lowe could be that guy, but he's not really
that big physical guy that he's been hurt so much.
It's hard to be a leader when you're not out
there all the time or know how long you're going
to be out there. I think Otega would have been
a pretty logical choice, but you've got to have a
guy that bust his button, plays hard all the time
(28:32):
like he did last year, and I just don't think
that's the Otaga we've seen at times this year. I
think there are times he does that, but not for
forty minutes or thirty five minutes a game or something
like that. So I think they are kind of leaderless
right now, and I think it's very obvious when you
kind of look out there. But then again, I think
also when maybe you don't understand what your role is
(28:54):
or what the other guy's roles are at all, like that,
it can maybe make it hard to be a leader too.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I agree with you and those are things I think
are going to be hashed out if we want to
change the trajectory in the direction of this scene right now.
So and I don't like I said again, that's nothing
we're telling Mark Pope. I'm just curious. I want I'm
going to stick to my guns. I'm going to say
it's a Jedi mind trick and we look discombobulated, just
to get everybody off balance so we can make the
Kimber Rock the Kimba Walker running march. Let's get to
(29:21):
the phone lines and see what Alvin has to say.
Good morning, Alvin, what do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Good morning? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm doing good? Happy twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Six man, right back at you. I'm enjoying your show.
So did you give you turn to cold turkey to
give up wild turkey on drinking?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
That was good.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
If you just stopped drinking, you gave us like I
feel like you gave up wild turkey to stop stop drinking.
It's you know, Anthony, we talk about you know, you know,
we talk about sports, and we look every week to
(30:09):
hope that it gets better. With nil that seems to
be challenging to the collegiate sport as we see it.
Nick Saban gave some very good points on the ESPN
Studio one last week about that it needs to be changed.
He said that the NCAA is broken, that it doesn't
(30:31):
have any answers to fix the calendar, to fix kids
from you know, moving back and forth. And then we
take and tunk Mark Pope with the roster of having
a twenty two million dollar nil roster and those particular
players that are getting paid. It's not translating as good
play on the floor. You look at the Alabama game yesterday.
(30:56):
You couldn't stop threes and you couldn't hit threes, which
is a negative negative, and if you have that as
a negative negative, you can continue to lose by double
digit points. And that's what we're seeing translated her. You
don't have an alpha dog leader similar to the Ava
Hudson lead volleyball team where she being pormed her team
(31:19):
to not give up, not give in, but to complay
to win. We just we don't have that on this
particular team right now. And I think that it's extremely
important that someone emerged as a as a leader. It's
important that Mark Pope come up with a fix on
his lineups. And that way he won't have to have
(31:42):
no tough questions during the press conference from Jack Pilgrim
and others. So at this point, what does this team
need to do to create an identity to a guys
in Sports Center and even Nate o'syesterday said that the
kids don't know how the Kentucky players do not have
gonna have to pass the ball? What changes need to
be made to get this team going to sort of
(32:04):
quiet a fan base that is speaking in terms of
Billy Gillespie records and that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I appreciate the call, Alvin, And if you would like
to join the show, just like Alvin, you can join
the show eight five nine to eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine to eight zero Cats, Larry Vaught,
We're gonna put a pin in that you think about that,
what is the what is it going to take for
the team to build this identity? And we'll discuss that
on the other side of the break. You're listening to
(32:31):
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six
thirty WLAP.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the Lead Troop Barge Radio Network on six thirty w.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
LAP Welcome back, Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Larry Vault and Bo Robinson. Douglass.
I'm sorry we got you called off. We don't have
a whole lot and I hate to put people up
against the break. So Douglas call us back at eleven
oh five because we want to hear what you got
(33:06):
to say. And plus we look for all the silver
linings we can find outside of Kenny Brooks and his squad.
Because Larry varb before we want to break, Alvin asked,
what is it going to take to get our identity.
I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna see if you agree,
and you can add or take away whatever you like
to take from it. I think step number one and
(33:27):
this would really conclude or identify whether there is a
locker room issue or not. And I've told you this
for years. If there's a locker room issue, it is
the worst thing ever for many reasons. Two of the
biggest reasons are one, if there's a locker room issue
and the coach lets it goes on, it is just
going to grow. If there's a locker room too. If
(33:48):
there's a locker room issue and the players take sides,
then you just have a huger problem because it may
not ever get to the coach. The best thing that
can happen if you have a lockeroo issue, there are
people in the locker room to diffuse that problem and
make everybody sing cool by y'all hold hands, hug lock
(34:09):
him in the room for twenty four hours, whatever the
case might be. But look, we're not going to do this.
And as I told you a couple of times, there
were several fights in the dorm rooms when I was
a sophomore in the freshman because I moved off campus.
Mind I think the end of the summer of my
sophomore year. But when guys had a beef, we were
rope off part of curving one. And Chad can tell
(34:33):
you because Chad follows us on social media. He's he
was a RA and we so we would monitor it.
Where I'm talking about his bare fist the cuff like
the things you see on YouTube. In the backyard brawls,
nobody really ever got really bloody or really really hurt.
I think one player punched the wall and wound up
messing up his knuckles or whatever. But we all right,
(34:55):
they shake hands and it's oh, we don't want to
hear any more about it. That's I'm not saying, and
that's what's going on with UK basketball. But you have
to have a leader, someone who could defuse the tension,
someone they can look to when the times are hard
on the court off the court. But as you stated earlier,
it has to be someone who's experience experiencing success, typically
someone who has a big stature, or someone who controls
(35:17):
the temple of the game, which is typically a point guard.
So I think the number one thing Mark Pope can do,
and he can do that he can make someone man,
put them in position to be the man and tell
you the team. But they have to have all the qualities.
So I think that's his first step, and then he
can identify what kind of offense he wants to run,
(35:37):
because that way he can make that person either responsible
for the offense or where they're most effective with the offense. Larry,
it's not here, Bo, Do you agree because Larry is
not here.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I don't hear Larry, which makes me think he's not here,
and I thought he was.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I'm saying you you are probably a bigger UK basketball
fan than I am, and Alvin was asking what do
we think the identity, what do we think needs to
improve to help the identity of the basketball team. We
only have a minute, but I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
If you listen to what I said in and out
and I was working the lines too, But I think
leadership just how you described.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It, and do you think that Mark Pope needs to identify?
And that's that was my I think that's my point
to save Mark tail the rest of the season, and
you know, just to get identity. I think he he
makes someone the focal point and it may be oh Way,
he may have to groom a way on how to
do it because of all the hype Allway had coming
(36:42):
in and he's sec player of the Year candidate, so
that would be the easy pick as long again as
I say, as long as there is no locker room
tension between him and anyone else.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Are you forcing the identity? Yes, team, how do you
do that? And I'm just asking how do you force
an identity on a team where here we are mid
season and we're still with a full healthy roster and
we're still unsure what we got.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That is true, and that is why I'm a little
bit disappointed, but I think Mark Pope came in with
a plan. His plan did not get executed. It got
injured along with the injuries. So I think he has
to reinvent himself because, yeah, most coaches don't change that game.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He's done that before, he did it at BYU.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So we'll see if that's gonna work. We're going to
try to find out way, Larry Vaught said, Larry Vaut,
turn your phone, charge your phone and get it from
your grandson. Whatever you got to do. We'll be back
after this year. Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday when the
Sports Talk on news radio six thirty w l A p.
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