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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White and Elucid Larry Vault. I guess he just hung
up on you, boy, But I'm coming from Clark's Main
Street Market studios in downtown Lexton to Kentucky. And if Larry,
if you already in Lexton, you should have just came
to the studio instead of hanging up on your boy.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I didn't hang up on you. Mine showed I was
still connected. You just wouldn't talk to me.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Did you hear me talking?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I didn't hear you talking, but it showed I was
still on air with you.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I blame both. Then that's fine. What are you blaming
me for? Because Larry said he was on there, he
just couldn't hear me talking. So I think somebody didn't
work the switchboards. But it's tough working three studios during
the show. But don't if you want to mess up
a show, it's not ours you're supposed to mess up.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, it's not. Yeah, I mean my goal is not
to mess up any shows, but sometimes the holiday Grimlin's
sneak in.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Uh, Gizmo, that's Gizmo. Who's the other strip stripe? Okay?
Larry Vought before we want to break we have the
phones are heavy, so I'm going to get this to
you because you may have an input really quickly and
they may be calling about something that was said before
we went to break. But Alvin asked about what is

(01:37):
it going to take to get the identity together? I
said that you did not here. I said that Pope
has to identify a leader of the team and trans
or transform his offense or his expectations around that player
to make them successful. You know, instead of having Tim

(01:58):
Couch run the option, have Tim Couch, give Time Couch
five wives to let him decide for who to throw
the ball to something to that that may then make
Tim Coles a leader because everything goes through him. So
I think that Mark Pope needs And I said, maybe
old way is probably the best option because he's you know,
already preseason see all this hec and uh, you know,

(02:19):
he's he's a face now, he's limited as an as
a basketball player. But I think if Mark Pope Taylor
makes the leadership position for him and gives him the
reins that he can do that. Also, my caveat was
as long as there's no tension between him and anyone
else on the team.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean they And that's something I just don't
know I think gets figured out or not. It's kind
of like will Stein trying to figure out who he
goes for his quarterback to be his leader on the
On the Kentucky football team, you gotta have a leader,
and I think Kentucky basketball right now this was kind
of without a set leader for whatever reasons. Now, hopefully

(03:00):
Stein's going to find his leaders that he needs because
he's got a lot of people have been on campus
this week.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well that's what we want. We want people knocking on
our doors so we can write them the check. And
that's fine with me because that's the new age of sports.
Let's get to the phone lines and see what Mike
has to say. Good morning, Mike, what do you got
for us?

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Good morning, guys. I'm big. I'm seventy three, so I've
been a UK basketball fan since nineteen fifty nine. So
here's my opinion. After this weekend, Kentucky basketball is no
longer Kentucky basketball, and Alabama football is no longer Alabama football.

(03:41):
And our problems are so many multiple, but my feeling
is we are coaching has been just miserable from the
whole staff. I love Coach Pope. I think he was
I wanted them to hire him, and and I am

(04:02):
I pushing the planic button. Yeah, I think I'm pushing
it now because these guys just don't have any idea
what is going on with with these you know, with
the players. And I blame the coaching staff. Whoever's coaching
the defense. I think they need to replace my solutions.

(04:24):
I get rid of some of these coaches. I think
some of these coaches are just not doing their jobs.
They're not getting the results that they're getting. And I
think that we've got a real we got a real
coaching problem. And I think Coach Pope realizes that he's
got a coaching problem. They've got to do something. The
second thing is you got to play your best players.

(04:47):
You cannot put Aberdeen and uh the other kid from
Utah Chandler starting and putting them on the court for
so many minutes. They're they're not good players for this
team there. They're six to the men at best. And that

(05:07):
is that's part of an issue that that they have.
You've got to play your best players, and you've got
to start moving the ball. I mean, there's no motion
in this offense at all. There it's like there's no
plays either, and that goes back to coaching. I mean,
you've got to rotate the ball from you know, strongside,

(05:29):
the weak side, and back, and there's no passing on
this team. And I think Alabama's coach even stated that
in his news conference that you know, throwing it inside
they know they're not going to throw it out, and
so there's it's just a terrible coaching exhibition. And to me,
that's what I think they need to do, is they

(05:50):
need to fire a coach and get somebody that can
coach defense. And to me, this team doesn't have enough offense.
And so the way to win with this team is
you're gonna have to play defense and you have to
go inside. And then when you come inside, if you
don't have an open shot, you need to pass it

(06:12):
back out. So that's my thoughts on the situation. Am
I pushing the panic button now? Last couple you know,
I thought, gee, maybe we'd gotten over this after the
last few games we had played some good defense, but
then we played Bellerman and I said, oh boy, we're
sliding back to not playing cuugh tough defense on the
three and how you can go into Alabama and not

(06:34):
play those guys on a three point line is mind
boggling to me. And that's terrible coaching. And if any
of us have ever played basketball, we know when we
had good outside sears, you were in his face, you
were in his shorts, you were holding on to him.

(06:54):
He wasn't even getting the ball. We're not anywhere near that.
These guys are so wide open. And whoever's coaching defense
on this team, they need to get rid of him.
I don't know if it's a guy from Georgia. I
don't know if former coach at Georgia. I don't know
who it is, but it's it's a disaster. And so
that's those are my comments from a from a seventy

(07:15):
three year old. This has been a fan forever. It's
it's definitely panic panic button.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Time, Mike, real quick, before you get off the from
a scale from one to ten, that we get this
thing fixed. Listen, how much faith.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
You have.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Less than fifty percent? Probably thirty forty percent. Maybe I
just think it's passed that now we're we're almost halfway
through the season, and you can't you can't coach intensity.
You have to be intense. It's got to be an
individual thing. And these guys just don't have it. And

(07:57):
there's there's a reason they're not coaching them to play
with intensity. And then they're playing guys that aren't intense.
Why are you playing players that aren't intense and aren't
playing with intensity? And Aberdeen has just been a disaster
and Chandler is just a disaster. And I say they're

(08:21):
frustrated too, But Chandler, I'm seventy three. I don't think
Chandler could guard me, especially if there was.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
A pick and roll.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean, these guys, how in the world can you
not know how to deal with a pick and roll
or a pick and a screen and off screen or
slash or whatever. I mean, it's mind boggling that you
could take a high school team and teach them how
to play on a pick you know it's coming. How
can you let them set picks when you know it's

(08:52):
coming over and over and over again. And we saw
that just the other day. We've seen that so many
times this year and Chandler, Chandler couldn't guard.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
You or me. Mike, thanks for the call. I get
your frustration. Thank you for the call. He is extremely frustrated,
just as a lot of people are. And I think
it is tough for players to execute when they're not
sure the assignment or the assignment is not clear to them.
So I will agree with that. Let's get back to
the phone lines and see what Douglas has to say.

(09:23):
Good morning, Douglas, what do you have for us?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Hey you, good morning guy. Let's how y'all.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Doing doing good? Doing great?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Say?

Speaker 5 (09:32):
First thing I want to say is thank you all
so much. We listen to you every Sunday and try
to get as much information as we can from you guys,
and we really appreciate that. And I just want to
say that I'm a big Blue fan. I have been
on my life. I'm fifty six years old. I'm not

(09:53):
as old as some of these guys are. But you know,
one of the problems I think for can take fans
is that we expect greatness every year, no matter what.
And I'm wondering if last year didn't kind of spoil Kentucky.
With our new coaching staff last year we talked of

(10:15):
we heard so much about all of those was it
quad one or whatever? The top all those wins that
we had and beating Duke down in Atlanta and all
of this other stuff made it to the Sweet sixteen.
And you know, sometimes I wonder if he's not been
snake bitten like Tebbee Smith was his first year. When

(10:37):
Tebbe came in his first year won the national championship,
and then every year after that he was much maligned
because he didn't win national championship. He couldn't win national championship.
Was wrong with it? He can't win the national championship.
The folks we got. I'm not saying I don't know
what's gonna happen the rest of the year.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
All I know is I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna
support them. And if anybody has sees and tickets that
they want to get rid of, if they don't want
to go support them, I'll be glad to take them
off their hands, and I'll be glad to go, and
I'll be glad to yell and scream and support these
cats no matter what.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Thank you for that, Douglas. You appreciate that. That was
a very thoughtful call. So if you do want to
recycle your tickets, Douglas has a place for them, Larry Vaught,
I did, a lot of people are beating up the players,
Colin and Aberdeen, and I don't think Aberdeen's I do
think a lot of these players may be six players,

(11:38):
six men. They're not someone you want start and relying
on and lugging a lot of minutes. But they are here.
We have to do what we have to do. I
will say I don't like beating up on the players,
but I will say, Larry Voy, do you remember years ago,
I've always said one of the dumbest things I've ever
heard of, Coach tell me, and I'm still scratching my

(11:59):
head to this day, or say to any player, if
you make a mistake, make it full speed. It's impossible.
It is psychologically impossible for you to make a mistake
full speed. Now you can go as fast as you
can not knowing what you're supposed to be doing, but
that that that little inch of a doubt, that little

(12:20):
milla whatever of a doubt, it's gonna allow It's not
going to allow you to go one hundred percent. So
I'm always like, well, if I don't know, if you
run a play and they say run full speed and
you're supposed to go to the left and you think
you're supposed to go to the right, or if you
think it's the right and you're right, you're still not
gonna be full speed. You're like, I think I might
supposed to go left if it's supposed to be left,
and you see the quarterback turn the opposite direction and

(12:42):
you're going the wrong direction, you're automatically going back. Oh,
and you're gonna lose all your energy. Anyways. I do
think there's a part of processing that may make some
of these players look not as athletic or as good
as they are. And I just kind of feel like
that is the players are taking a big hit for

(13:03):
them not being able to understand what Mark is telling them.
So maybe Mark maybe needs to dumby it down. You're
not changing the roster in the middle of the year,
So it is what it is about that, But the
fact that they're saying some of these players can't play,
they're not giving the effort and being uncertain a lot
of times look like not given effort. We'll continue the
conversation after this year. Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morning

(13:24):
sports talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Bard to Radio Network on six thirty
w LAP.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vault and Boa Robinson. Stockyards Bank
is your trusted partners is nineteen oh force ahead and
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your banking and financial needs. Larry, let's get to the

(13:58):
phone lines and see what she who has to say?
Good morning? What do you got for us?

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking my car? Got
the kids in church? Uh, I haven't listened so much
to I think Mike was hitting on a couple of
cars ago this spot on. I mean, you know, I
think what he was saying really good points. I would
also just add to that that talent is that evaluation

(14:26):
on on the basketball side? Come on, I mean we
overpaid for some marginal players. What I think? I mean,
the teams that beat us in basketball, they you know,
maybe maybe they beat us for five stars. We haven't
run up against that too much. But the teams that

(14:49):
beat us beat us with dudes. Dudes who can ball
out in the paint, get and get it. You know
they beat us with dudes, they're not necessarily five our superstars.
I mean, I'm sure when we run up against them,
you know, we'll see what happens, you know. But but man,
but on the football side, I really wanted to ask,

(15:15):
how are we going to replace the offensives line? The
offensive line is completely gone. I'm I'm hopeful UKs my team.
But oh man, you gotta have an offensive line. You
don't have it. You don't even have the most important
player on the on the team yet of the quarterback.
And you know, I really think you need to go

(15:38):
homegrown on the quarterback and one from from year one.
But but offensive line and a quarterback you don't have
that yet. How we're gonna fix that? So I'll holler
and y'all have a great week.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Sure, thank you, uh you, thanks for the call, Larry Varden.
I'm this going on for quite a while. I think
I'm not sure if Cutter left Wich at the offensive
line coach, I'm not sure his resume is is too bad.
He seems to you know, be able to put together
passing off our passing protection and running running offense line

(16:15):
like he's been in the top five in both categories
where he's coaching at. So I'm not certain what the
recruiting with their uh, what the recruiting tactics are to
get those players to come. I'm I'm not sure. Have
you ever been to Eugene Oorgon? Never have, probably never will, Okay,

(16:36):
So I'm not Actually I don't believe that the city
is as great as you know, the equine and the
just the environment of Lexington, Kentucky. So I would assume
you will be able to lure players to come play
in the SEC and live in the city like Lexington,
and you know, have the opportunity to play for our
fan base. So I'm not one hundred percent concerned about

(16:58):
our offensive line. Our offensive line has made a little
bit of progress, but that's gonna be a work in progress.
I think you will have some realistic concerns as far
as not having a quarterback and who you're going to
have to protect them. But we're also getting to watch
Oregon and our coach play in the in the final
four of the college playoffs, So there's that. Once he

(17:20):
does get here on the sideline, he looks really energetic.
He looks like, you know he can you know he
can get the guys pumped up. So I do understand
she Woo's concerns, But now that he has an office
line coach and placed the portal opened on Friday, I'm
curious to see, you know, what he's going to have
going on. I'm curious to see how you feel about

(17:41):
the statement. A lot of people have been saying it
lately that we need to get a homegrown quarterback. Larry
Vod tell me, in the thirteen years that Mark Stoops
was not here, that we didn't get a homegrown quarterback?
How many years were there any? I'm not certain.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
They had a couple of homegrowns quarterbacks during that time,
but none that did exceedingly well.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
So no, I mean, what years didn't we not get
homegrown quarterback? Every year? We've had almost one of the
top two years.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they had not always ended up
being the starter.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Right, So I'm saying, I'm not sure if that's going
to be a formally she Will says he thinks we
should go homegrown. I'm not certain if that's the Do
we blame all of the quarterbacks that did not become
starters on the coaching I don't know if I would
just put all my eggs in that basket.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
What he's saying, no, but no, but the but the
transfer portal had not always the answer either. I think,
just get a quarterback he can develop. Whether I thought
it was going to be Cutter Bowling, now maybe it'll
be Ryan Ponitowski if he ends up coming and he
stays here and doesn't go play baseball. But I would
like to see him be able to develop a quarterback.
But maybe that's just something that's not going to keep happening.

(18:53):
And sometimes you hit success in the transfer portal to
quarterback and sometimes you don't, as Kentucky has seen the
last couple of years. And also that's kind of a path.
But it's kind of the same way as the offensive line.
I mean, to me, I'm more worried about let's let's
kind of build us the building and get something going
in that offensive line. Is is that happened to change every year?

(19:13):
I mean, I don't know. Maybe you can do it
in the transfer portal and maybe we'll styn I'll be
more successful than what Mark Stoops was. I'm already a
bigger fan of the new offensive line coach, and I
was at the departing offensive line so I'm fine with that.
So but again Will's got to get some gas.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And as Larry Watt just stated, Cutter Bowley was a homegrown,
high school developed quarterback and he's going to Arizona State.
So everything Larry Wadgers asked for we had and it
just walked out the door. We'll be back after this year.
Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Winning sport Stalk on news
radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Boards Radio Network on six thirty WLAP.
Welcome back Stockyard Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I mean
Anthony White along with Bo Robinson. This our Sunday morning

(20:09):
sports Talk has been brought to you by Country Boy Brewing.
This is the last segment because at twelve o'clock we
will be turning over Darren Hedrick and UK women's basketball
to face Missouri over Memorial Coliseum. So I wanted to
get an update from Larry Vault with the parking was
like over there, so we can give some tips on
people how to get over there, help them maneuver matriculate

(20:31):
through the thing.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Because you and I have had some adventures oh yeah
we have. And you know the bad thing I just
realized about us going to Memorial. Every time we go
to Memorial Coliseum, it's when it's cold outside, like we
don't have any events there. When it's nice out and
you can wear shorts and just walk on over. Do
you walk?

Speaker 5 (20:51):
You know?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Two? Three, four blocks? Five blocks? Like I did the
one day. I just realized that we only covered the sports.
What indoor? There are no indoor summer sports? Are they
spring summer?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Not?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Really, there's a reason why we have outdoor spring sports.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Huh see, I just answer my own question. Okay, I
think I sprained my think I spray my brain. So
really wrap it firely for you.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Bo.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
You since you are probably the biggest UK basketball fan
on this show and we've been talking online, you never
got a chance to really say, and you're going to
be the last one to jump off the bandwagon.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Or on short not? Yes?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yes, yes, And I may jump before he does. That's
where That's where I'm at with this Where where are
you with this team? Do you think it could be corrected?
Do you have faith in Pope?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Or my heart wants to have faith in Mark Pope?
And I've said this basically since the beginning of the season,
that let's see what he does in year two when
it's all said and done, whenever the postseason ends, I
will have my opinions on Mark Pope and the Kentucky
basketball team. I think that is the reasonable way to
look at it. Okay, I'm not one, and you've known me.

(22:06):
Every once in a while, I kind of fly off
the hinge a little bit, especially during the caliper of years,
but at this point, year two, I do want to
see what happens in March. Am I frustrated right now?
Of course, I'm a Kentucky fans, my god given right
to be frustrated. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Am I questioning why he did not play his best
players to start yesterday?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Of course?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Am I questioning why we're not moving the ball around?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, and now I'm starting to question the assistance roles
on the bench because now that's been put in my
head by a couple of collars and discussions I had yesterday.
Let it play out, Let's see what happens. Okay, we're
going to criticize, and you know, we'll celebrate the good
games and great wins and then we will pick apart
the losses too. That's what we're supposed to do. I'm

(22:52):
just not ready to jump off the bandwagon yet with
Mark Pope, and how many times have we been through this,
whether it's football, basketball, The season ends, and then in
the off season we get ramped up, we get through
the talking season football, and we're ready to go again,
and we find this vicious cycle of being a fan.
You know, if the season ends, first second round the
NCAA Tournament, guess what October, I'm gonna be ready to

(23:14):
go again.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
But let's wait. We do that every single year we do.
Is there anything wrong with being in the middle to role?
Because you and I are pretty usually pretty the same.
I mean, yeah, it's you know, I hope you get
it better like UK basketball, man, I hope you get
this thing together. God, this looks a grim season. Man,
it looked tough.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I think being in the middle of the road comes
with you and I growing up. Yeah, and having a
little maturity. Of course, being in the middle of the
road too, also comes with our duties here. Yeah, okay,
we're I think we're pretty level headed about things now.
In our private conversations that might be a booking score

(23:55):
of the other thing I wanted to point out really quickly. Well, no,
I'm going to skip the girl basketball. I think I
was going to point out the girls basketball team and their.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Win over LSU. Shot poorly, we did our rebound the
other team by sixteen points. We have forty five rebounds,
seventeen offensive to their four offensive. So the big difference
in that game was our size. And I guess if
you can shoot and miss all the time you want
and our bigs, we're going to get the rebounds. I
don't know if that's a recipe for winning, but it won.
And I don't know if that's something you want to

(24:24):
rely on, but I like it. Let me just shoot
whatever shot I want. I know I got two or
three bigs down there that can get the rebounds. You
subscribe to that, Yeah, absolutely, okay, And I'm gonna let
you tell me about your horses. Tell me about my horses. Well,
hang out for a second. I think it was Mike
from Birmingham and he was criticizing the pick and roll

(24:44):
aspects of Kentucky's game. Tubby Smith once told me one
of the hardest things to teach in basketball, which this
is something you and I learned in third grade.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Pick and roll? Yeah, how do officially run a pick
and roll? And how to guard against the pick and roll?
And Tubby Smith told me it's one of the hardest
things to teach college basketball players.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That's something and that was nowadays. That wasn't you know
old schools right, because they used to do au They
just rolled the ball.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
One note horse racing, Rest in peace, Diane Crump. She
died seventy seven years old. If you don't know the name,
she was the first woman to ride professionally and horse
racing and also in nineteen seventies Kentucky Derby. She was
a board fathom who finished fifteenth one, two hundred and
twenty eight races.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
So she died at her home in Virginia over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Sheh, that is well. My condolence is rip. Head on
over to Morrow College sum SCC network. Stay right here
on this station to listen to Kentucky's women basketball against Missouri.
Thanks to Bo, thanks to Jack, thanks to Larry. I'm
Anthony Whden. This has been Stockyards Bank Sunday one of
Sports Talk on News Radio six thirty WLP
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