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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Valp coming to
you from brisk downtown Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's gonna be a long show. It's gonna be a
good show because UK Men's basketball one. And I know
that makes uh, that makes Jack Pilgrim a happy guy,
but I am running on maybe three hours of sleep.
Larry Vault, Jack Pilger, Bo Robinson, Well, first let me
say this, I don't know what Bo Robinson has done.
(00:41):
And Billy Billy Rutledge. If you listen to Tom Leech throughout
the week, then you got the KSR pregame show with
Billy and those guys, and you got the real KSR
show that comes on at ten o'clock. Well not the
real it's all KSR. But so there's a people are
putting messages on the community refrigerator. There are items, so
the items in there that I thought were community and
(01:04):
I found out maybe last year that some of that
stuff in there was bowls and he snowed in here.
He had that's his survival package. But now people are
putting notes on them so they know what you can
drink or eat what you can and cannot eat and drink,
which is pretty cool. So I don't know if that's
a message to me, or if that's a message to
Bo or if that's a good thing the message. What's
(01:24):
the message Billy? It says Billy, then it says fair game.
So I don't know if it's Billy's and he's telling
everybody it's fair game, or somebody's telling him Billy that
whatever's in that jug is fair game. I'll go check
it out during the break. Yeah, let me give your game. Yeah,
or Billy can text her whatever. Let me know. But
Larry Vaught, Jack Pilgrim, bo Robinson, I'm only going on
(01:46):
three hours asleep because last night, this morning, whichever one
you want to call it, about two thirty two forty
five am, I play Real Lifetime and Jerry there was
a mouse in the house, and I've been up since
(02:07):
three o'clock. So, Larry Vaut, Jack Pilgrim, bar Robinson, what
I did was I took a camera, one of my
outside motion cameras and brought it in the house, and
I set a trap up and I and so every
time it goes on, when motion comes it'll my whole
house will say there's motion in whatever room, So it
wake me up in the middle night, wakes me up.
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I pulled my phone out and I'm watching Here comes
here comes Jerry mouse nibbling on the nibbling on the trap,
just eating, like just eating away at the peanut butter.
Well blow and behold the mouse leaves with a full stomach.
So three oh five. I don't want to be outde
I don't want to be outdone. I go get the trap.
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It's old wooden trap, the old wooden joints, the one
that you pull the thing back and if you don't
watch your fingers, it catch your fingers. So I think
it was secure too well, Larry vaught, and the mouse
could just nibble on the food without it even setting off.
So I went and doctored the trap up. Now at
this point, it's like three thirty five, three forty in
the morning, and so I just played a couple of
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games listening, lo and behold. Thirty minutes later, you hear
there's motion and such and such a room. So I
pull out my phone. Before I can get the app
pulled up on my phone. All their hair is a
loud got it got him now that by the time
we was still on there, it ain't leaving until somebody
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comes and removes it. But so and plus I'm leaving
it as a message to all his other like cousins
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
If they see him laid.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Out, the rest of them will probably just cat so
before we get to the show, if anybody knows, because
I'm assuming he has family members somewhere, so I don't
want to stay up all night. If anybody has a
better method of instead of sealing my whole house, because
I can't do that just yet. If anybody has a
better method of catching a mouse, let me know.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
But you need peppermint spray. Spray the mouse if you want,
But get some peppermint spray from home depot spray the
outside perimeter of your house, okay, because mice hate peppermint.
They can't stand it well.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But if they're already in the house, they're not going
to leave.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, that's a bigger problem in there. Yeah, so you'll
have to pay somebody three hundred dollars an exterminator for
them to tell you that you have mice in the
house or maybe one mouse, okay, which you already knew.
So you need to save yourself some money and go
get the glue traps. Yeah, get the glue traps. And
I mean it's crol to see a little mouse struggling
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there in the glue trap. But you just got to
do what you do and get rid of them all.
And make sure your floors are clean. I don't foresee
you being somebody that leaves crumbs on the floor or
anything like that, but take a vacuum around the inside
perimeter of your house and get the crumbs up and
things like that. Make sure you don't eat food around
things like that because they're attracted. So there's all kinds
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of precautions you can take on your own to prevent
this from happening.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Or while you're on a hot streak, just go ahead
and keep put a little more bait out there and
just get all those rascals at one. Why he can't
because I've never in my house when there's been one mouse,
there's always been more.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And that is probably my plan, Larry Vault. I want
to catch them one by one. I want to have
a meeting with each one of them bad boys, one
on one on one.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So I think I'm gonna keep catching them.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But I think I'm gonna do the glue traps, but
I don't want to watch them struggle and one what
I ain't gonna say too bad. But if you want
to see the video, Larry Bow, I can show you
the video.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I want to see the video.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's kind of gruesome, but I.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Don't think the glue traps work as well. But I've
got so old I can't use the traps. Like what
you're talking is up afraid. I want to cut my
finger off trying to settle.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Absolutely, it did snap a couple of times when I
made it more sensitive. It's snapped a couple of times
on my finger. But it was well worth it to
get that little joker. Jack Pilgrim, thanks for waiting so patiently.
Hopefully you and Billy don't have those little critters, but
you got a little baby so he can run around
and chase it instead of you know, a full grown adult.
But Jack Pilgrim saw the game yesterday was still liking
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are you back on the But it was it was
a long week for you, I guess because me and
week you probably weren't feeling the best.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was a miserable week. Man.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It was just the man what a what a swing
of emotions to uh be where we were leaving Missouri,
and then the first three minutes of the game when
Jalen Low goes down and you're a couple of minutes
after that, Kentucky goes down by double double.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Digits, the Boo Birds come out of upp.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Arena and you're like, well, I guess it's just gonna
be that one of those years. I guess we just
have to accept our fate and go, well, they're there,
they are who they are, and we just kind of
have to deal with the fan reaction and it's gonna
it's just gonna stick. It's just gonna really stink. So
uh to tell you my my swing of emotions for
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from that ten minute mark when you're down by double
digits to all the other awesome, awesome, awesome play the
last three quarters of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Essentially it was awesome. It was an unbelievable environment at
its peak.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
We got will Stein in there. Will Stein ended up
being the total turnaround game changer of that. He gets
shown on the jumbo tron in Kentucky goes on a
seventy to forty run to close out the game.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
After his face is shown on the Jumbo trial.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
We got a former five star committing in front of
the student section.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The vibes are very good that last.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Thirty minutes and it leads to a twenty four point
win that Kentucky just had to have. I mean, where
we were in desperation mode, drowning mode. Just got to
find a way to salvage this and get back on
the right track and get some feel good moments. And
there were quite a bit of them last night, led
by none other than Georgetown Zone Malachi Moreno game MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He was amazing.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Before we get.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Into the nuts and bolts of the game, who got
the bigger ovation, Who got the louder cheers?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Pat or wheel.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Ooh, that's it Pat for sure, Because honestly, can I
tell you that I was starstruck being in the same
room as Pat and just knowing his impact on the
game of basketball and like like, hey, this dude is
not just a Kentucky basketball legend. This is a the
sport of basketball legend of of what he's the impact
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he's made on it as a player, as a coach
and now as an executive with with the Miami Heat.
I mean, the dude everything Pat Riley has touched, has
turned the gold in the basketball world over decades and
decades and decades of doing it. So to be in
the same room as the as the godfather, I mean
he is, he is the og of all og.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Godfathers. It was very very cool to see him in there, and.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
He definitely got the pop that was He's so clearly deserved.
And he said, you know, he took the microphone kind
of held court a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
That was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Said, you know, I was here for four years and
it was some the best four years of my life
being in Lexington of the University of Kentucky, and fans
have lost their minds, So love will Sneine. He definitely
gave the Cats a pop. But man, Pat pat Riley
is one of one. And Larry Voe did you know
who Pat?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
When we just said first name, Pat didn't need a
last name because you know who we were talking about.
And does he normally come? As long as I've been
in town for almost thirty years now, I think I've
ever seen him in person. I think I would be
like Jack. I think I would be kind of stopping
my tracks if I seen Pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, of course, you guys are so young, you didn't
get to watch you play. But I can remember to
this day where I was when the Rough Fronts lost
that game to Texas Western. I mean, that was one
of the most popular University Kentucky basketball teams ever. With
fans that are still around that were able to watch
that team play, it was fantastic. So to have all
(09:50):
those guys back in Repp Arena was pretty amazing. And
I think that is the first time Pat's maybe been back.
Of course he's usually kind of busy, and I don't
know what else he may not have been back for,
but it was nice to have him back, and I'll
and to get to see Kentucky when I'm sure he
was scoring a little bit early when Kuch he gets
(10:10):
started like that, but were in front of those guys,
and because had sixty six reps, Runts teams was still
one of the all time favorites and one of the
most fun teams I've ever watched play.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I had a chance to visit with the Runts yesterday
before the game, a little bit before halftime and afterwards,
and they were all smiles and they were happy to
be at Rupp Arena, and I told them myself. Being
born in seventy seven. Yeah, of course heard about the
seventy eight team, and you know, the eighty four Final
(10:44):
four team and growing up watching Kyle Macy and Bowie
and Turbin. But the first actual conversation that I can
remember my dad having with both of my grandfathers was
about that Reps Runs team, And I said, you know,
to the older generation and that history passed down to
me as a Kentucky fan. I said, you mean quite
a bit to the Big Blue Nation and the fans
(11:05):
who remember you, and I was thrilled to see them
at Rubb Arena. They were awesome to be around.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I could imagine that and doesn't help. I mean it helps,
I guess a lot more. Getting a big win after
the wedding helps. Yeah, after Jack said a rough week, Jack,
I did notice the last eight minutes rallied off twenty
six points to pull away. But I'm like you when
Low went down earlier. And it's kind of like I
told Larry and you all earlier, when that thing pops out, Man,
(11:35):
it pops out at the weirdest moments, and they could
pop out at any moment, So it's I don't know,
what are we looking for Jack as far as him
returning from it, and have we figured out some things
because it seems as the ebbs and flows of the
game were up and down, but it seemed like we
finished pretty strong and everybody was pretty confident. Or I
(11:55):
still think I think. I still think Pope is planned
Jedi mind trick. I just don't think he's showing his
lineups that he wants to use when March comes around.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Well, buddy, he needs to make sure March does come
around and use the lineups that that that actually get
him into the tournament. I don't I don't think he
can afford any more Jedi mind tricks. I think we're
well well well past that point. So I I thoroughly,
thoroughly hope you you are wrong in that in that assessment.
But yeah, I'm concerned for sure because all of the
(12:28):
feedback I had heard up to this point with Jalen
was he was three and done. He's he's on a
three strikes you're out without policy. Once he gets that
third dislocation, they're going to pull him and he's going
to have the season ending surgery and that's going to
be that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So I I as soon.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
As I saw it, and you know, I felt the
same way against Saint John's and he survived and came
back in the second half. They said that it shifted
instead of dislocated and popped out. Like we're getting into
like the super super specifics of it, whether it's a
actual dislocation or a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Slip or whatever with that one.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But apparently that one, it just shifted out of place
and they kind of scooted it right back where it's
supposed to be, and he was good to go in
the second half. So I don't know the difference between
that and this, but all I know is that he
looked quite a bit different in this instance and came
back in his arm within his kind of sleeve, kind
(13:24):
of had a like a sling looking thing to protect it,
and just did not look like somebody who was actively
ready to go for coming in anytime soon or even
down the road.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And I will.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Note something that fans should keep an eye on is
the NCAA. The rule is thirty percent of games. Thirty
percent of games is the maximum for a medical red shirt.
It's technically in the first half of the season, So
I think the Incuba would kind of have kind a
(13:59):
little bit of leeway there because we're technically sixteenth game
is just just on the back end of the start
of the second half of the season, although he did
it in the first half of that game to meet that,
if you want to call it, you know, super specifics
that the midway point of the season is halftime. So
he has quite the argument for the n C double
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A if he'd like to make one for a medical
red shirt. So I think that's just something that if, if,
if surgery is even slightly on his mind, and something
he wants to consider his family needs to consider to
preserve this year, kind of similar to to what Kirk
Reaesa did last season. It's at least something to monitor
and something to keep in mind that he could make
(14:42):
a real fight with the n C Double A. So
it's it's interesting, very very interesting, and I hate it
for him because he's a heck of a talent and
I'd rather him be on the floor helping Kentucky win
basketball games.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And that is something that would go I was.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Gonna say it would make for him though, if he's
going to be out an extended period, I mean now,
because he can't if he plays another game, the medical
red church gone, and that way he would be wouldn't
be able to have to save that year of college eligibility.
So if that shoulder, if he's going to be out
at least right now, say he's kind of no, he's
going to say out two three more weeks and then
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risk and coming back and getting hurt and still needing
the surgery. I mean, logically it almost seems like it'll
make sense for him to have the surgery.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Now we have to head to a break, Larry Vaught,
I got a response for that, and see how you
feel about that when we come back, if you like
to join the show eight five nine to eight zero
two two eight seven. That's eighty five to nine to
a zero Cats. We will be back after this year.
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Speaker 1 (15:50):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday morning sports Talk on Anthony
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that on. Put a pen in that because the phone
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lines were lit up. You'd like to join the line?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
You not?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Because Jake is up? What do you got for us
this morning?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Jake?
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Good morning, Anthony?
Speaker 9 (16:22):
How are you doing this morning? I'm feeling pretty bad
that I missed the game last night.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well you got to stop watching then, because they looked
pretty good there at the end. So if you were,
if you were bringing this bad luck back, did you
watch Tuesday night?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Wednesday night?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
No, I didn't miss it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I missed that one too.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Oh I missed that one.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
I missed the lost and I missed the wind So.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I got you.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
So I was just gonna ask Larry how how how
the Reps runs got their name.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Because the tallest player on the team was maybe six
six six sixty five and one day, uh Adolph just
talked about he just had a bunch of runs out there.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Playing six to five was pretty tall back then, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Larry not?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
There were teams that had bigger players. Usually your center
was a little bit bigger than that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Was she got he was the tallest player it was.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It might have been do you remember Larry could have
been Riley Hu.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It could have been Riley or Brad Bounds Larry.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, of course Brad didn't start, so yeah, among the
because Jas was the starter at center. To believe that
Riley was actually taller than he.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Wasn't he or he may have been. I gotta go
back and kind of look at that roster.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But sure jump higher than JS.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
I tell that, Hey, Jake, thanks for the car. We
appreciate that trip.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Trip. Remember a little history.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Speaking of Riley, I want to point this out because
I don't want to forget this. Pat right, he did
one of the sweetest things I've ever seen at Rupperino
when they were introducing them, and I don't know how
many people caught this, but they were introducing the reps.
They were introducing the runs coming out to half court,
and it was Thadjareas, Louis Dampier and pat Riley. Well,
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the PA announcer, remember Tommy Kron who passed away, said
Tommy Krohn's name, and pat Riley did the sign of
the cross in honor of Tommy Kron. I don't know
how many people called that, but I thought It was
a really sweet moment and very nice for pat Riley
to remember his teammate like that. How tall is pat Riley?
(18:39):
I've never seen him in real life. I just seen
him standing next to Lebron and other huge guys.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Sixty three or so six four. Oh, Tommy Kron might
have been the tallest when Bowie's boy played point guard.
It might have been Krin that was actually six five
or something himself.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
May Ben, I'm going to look that up. I got
a couple of old Kentucky books from Russell Rice with
me this morning, so I'm gonna flip through them and
see if i can find something.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, well, again, we got to get to break. We
can continue this because I still didn't get to ask
Larry my question or give him the details to my
my commentary and see how he feels about it. Give
us a call, let us know how you feel about
UK athletics, UK basketball. Are you on or off? And
if you know how to catch a mouse? I'm open
to all tips. We'll be back after this year. Listening
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Speaker 3 (19:41):
We're doing hits from nineteen sixty six, honoring the Runts.
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Speaker 2 (20:00):
I was well.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Our point guard was six foot five eleven five ten.
I was the second smallest person. We went like six
four six four six five six six sixty seven six eight,
So we had a pretty decent sized basketball team. I
didn't realize when he said, ruugh Runts, But I talked
to some people who played back in the sixties, and
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they always talked about, uh, well, I was sixty three.
I was the center, like they just like Earth didn't
just present six five six seven guys back then. So
that's why I asked you, Larry. I was told that
by an old head that he uh that he played
center because there wasn't nobody bigger than sixty three.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well, that that often was the case sometimes especially in
high school, but most of the major college teams, they
would have a Jim Andrews dan Essel somebody like that
that would be a good bit bigger than sixty three
or something playing center for them. I mean Tennessee had
a seven footer back in that time that I can remember.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I got you this what I was going to ask you, Larry.
Then we're gonna get to the phone lines. You're on
the phone line, just hold on. We get right to
you in a second. But Larry, and I guess Jack
can chime in on as well. But when you talked
about the Jaalen Low, from my experience both just in
sports and general injuries of those sorts, you kind of
sound as if you're asking, like Jalen Low has an
(21:21):
option whether to come back or have surgery. And I
agree with you absolutely. If the decision is made that
you know it's gonna be game by game, possession by possession,
whether you're gonna stay on the court, then yep, for
his health, for just for his future, go ahead and
have the surgery now, because as we stated a couple
of weeks back, maybe a couple months back, that we
don't want to, you know, have to every possession, be
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sitting on the edge of your seat. Will we have
him for the next possession? Back down the court? But
I say, and the reason I say this because I mean,
he's a college athlete. He's a high energy athlete. He's
a guard. So he's always in the past online, he's
running through screens, he's that's all that happened yesterday. You're
gonna swipe at the ball, You're gonna try and grab rebounds.
The ball is not always thrown at your chest, so
your arms are always gonna be away from your body.
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So there's really I don't and his instinct and his
reactions are what's gonna cause it. So he's not gonna
be like, hey, oh my shoulders messed up, let me
not reach. No, the first reaction is gonna be let
me reach for the ball, and the more it pops out,
it's gonna pop out more frequently. So I'm listening to
you and Jack, Jack kind of sounds as if we
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need to start preparing for his future. You sound as
if there's a scenario where he has one more shot
to try to stay on the court.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Larry, No, I'm saying, if he takes one more shot,
to stay on the court, then his medical red shirt
is gone. Jack is right about that. So I mean,
I think if you're looking, so if you're looking, as
Jack said it looked when he came out of there
last night, that there's like a gad, it's gonna be
ready to play anyway when they play the next game.
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So if you're looking two three more weeks down the road,
and then you're thinking comes back, and with the way
it's been going on since June's coming back and going
to play the rest of the season seemed pretty slim.
Maybe it's just time to be a day. You've played
through all the pain, you've tried, you've done everything that
you can. Just go ahead and get your surgery and
start thinking about next season.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And Jack, before we get to before we get to
the phone lines, your rebutted that if you were a batman,
what would we see? We see Jalen anymore? This this
year just not not you to be in medical for UK.
But this is just Jack Pilgrim stops.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I don't think we see him again the rest of
the season. I think the timing is just so obvious,
glaring like this is the absolute and then he still
have to make a case to the NCAA because he
did play.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
A sixteenth in the sixteenth.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Game for for the the eligibility requirement.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's just he played in the first half.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Of the sixteenth game, which would on I mean, it's
a technicality and there he'd have to he'd have to
stretch it because the rule is technically in playing in
the first half of the season, which I in the
inca's eyes, should it is, you know, fifteen games in
or sixteen. Fifteen is the first half, sixteenth and on
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is the second half. But you know, you're you're getting
into the nitty gritty of it that I I mean,
we got tenthier guys applying for medical red shirts and
stuff right now, so it's absolutely insane. So I think
Jalen would be just fine applying and said, hey, I
played an extra three minutes over what my allotment is.
Please give me, you know, please give me my eligibility.
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I think he'd have absolutely no problem whatsoever getting his
medical red shirt. And I think that was, you know,
something they they like. I don't think it's like this
taboo topic to bring it up like. I think it
was something they've they've kept in kind of their back
pocket and kept in mind, knowing this entire time that hey,
if something's got to go wrong, I'd rather.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It go wrong in these nine games.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
You know, before nine has been kind of the cutoff
for him of you know, once we hit nine, then
that's when we start having to really make some hard decisions. So, uh,
in a way, it's kind of I don't want to
say convenient, but in terms of clarity, you'd rather it
happened right in the moment when it did and allow
everything else to kind of fall into place. With with
offense and how well they played without him and running
(25:30):
their stuff and Malachi kind of being point center for
Kentucky and kind of really getting into the weeds of
their offense and stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It was great. I mean, how they played without.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Jalen did give me optimism if we do have to
live in a post Jalen reality for you know, the
back end of the season. So I do not think
that we see him the rest of the year. Anthony now,
and I think I would agree with you. Let's get
to the phone lines. Let's see what John Short has
to say. Good morning, John Short, what do you got
(26:02):
for us?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
What a good win we had last night? Y'all great Americans.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It was a great win, and you are great American.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I think what I think what Days should have done,
The should have had a surgery before the season began.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, Larry, what you agree with that? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Or maybe because we've been questioned all along with JQ
and him, did we know how seriously? Maybe they didn't
think of that serious, Larry, Or you think they were
just optimistic.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Well, I think the first time in June when he
did it, the optimism was he would be okay. And
then he went all the way till mid October before
it happened again. And then I'm thinking, you got a
young man that came to Kentucky to play, and he
still wanted to play, thought he could play through the pain,
didn't know how much. Hew often it would keep happening.
And I think he just had a guy that really
(26:54):
wanted to play. You're talking about that sometimes today you
fussed guys because they just want and for the money.
I think I think he wanted to play, and so
I think he was gonna do everything he could to
try not to have that surge and be able to
be part of this team which he thought was gonna
be really special. And I think he's played to probably
a lot more pain than what we understand, and he's
(27:15):
done all that he can. So no, I don't blame
him for going ahead and trying. I think that's what
he came to Kentucky for was to play, and that's
what he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
John, I don't think you're gonna keep him up with
Larry John. I don't think you're gonna keep him off
the court. He wanted to play and he was gonna play.
What else you got?
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Okay, I think now, Jesson, I think Jeffre Johns is
starting now for the rest of the season at a
point guard.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You that is something.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Now we're talking John, Now we're talking John.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Tuggy.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, thank you for the call. Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Well, we're gonna win today too. Gonna be Oklahoma by
five biggins today, it would be Jim danneyby game I
only sell tenswelve one hundred points.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Can tell you went about five biggins?
Speaker 6 (27:56):
You said a score over one hundred points against Oklahoma?
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Yeah, yes, and we remember I had twenty points, twenty rebounds,
twenty fifth, twenty twenty. That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And you know tian Key's not back, right.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I know she may. She may be back the rest
of the season.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
I don't know, she may.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know, Claire definitely had one bucket last game.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, that's right for you.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Where are you getting us all this optimism from internal optimism?
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Because because some days going to happen. When I say that,
some days is gonna hand this well hand? And how
do we you not gymnastics fast Saturday? Saturday? Have we
do not gymnastics?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Larry?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The gymnastics team finished fourth. They were without All American
Crislyn Brosie who was in concussion protocol and didn't get
to compete, so that definitely hurt them. But the great
thing was is that Delaney Rodriguez, one of our favorites, Anthony,
she won the all around competition.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
See she's on par, she's on par John Short, John, Sure,
we appreciate the car. Oh we got to get back
to the phone lines, Larry and Larry and Jack. I'm
going to assume John Short probably played defensive back because
he don't stay rattled long. If we have a bit
of a bit of a rough patch man, John Short
is right back to five ten fifty Biggins next game.
(29:16):
He don't care about you know, the shortcomings, the bad
games we had. Let's get back to the phone lines.
See what Larry has to say. Good morning, Larry, what
do you got for us?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Well, yeah, you know, for our get on the A
men's basketball. I like to touch on football too, well,
one of other things. The girls are gonna have tough
time days. That key, I mean, he shows the other age.
But you know she's had from fire. You can't replace
size and that big center for Oklahoma. He's hug She's
a load. But anyway, as far as as far as football,
(29:47):
real quick, Indiana, you know, why didn't Kentucky been at
Lucky you know when super side to go to him?
We could have been lugging enough to hire a guy
like that. I probably would have said, I've never heard
of the guy, you know, but he was want to.
He's probably a modern day Nick Saban coming on. I mean,
I've watched Indiana, I've been watching them all year or
some of that stuff. And this guy he never cruts
(30:09):
now like saving. And he also his kids, his offensive
defense for fall us, I mean, and the special teams.
Everything that guy coaches just so much like saving when
he had his better team in the end, and you're lucky.
I hope you can hold on to him. You know,
they somebody's gonna comeact him off with a lot of
money one time.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Looking at him, They're looking at a lot of a
lot of NFL teams looking at him.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Yeah, this guy's will be something. But any anyway, as
far as basketball, I will agree with John Short you know, uh,
I don't think I would play Jaya Lowe or even
Quaintness anymore. I mean, if it's me, if I was
a coach Attuck, I will never recruit the kid that's
coming off injuries cause he's just missed too much time.
You know, you're you're banking on him coming in and
(30:54):
having you in and really when you get so far
in the season, they disrupted the chemistry. So I would
I'm like John sure, I would start maybe not start him.
I would play Johnson a lot more. This kid has
got the skills. He can see that. The only thing
that held him by Curt and season he done. He
took a lot of shots that that wasn't you know.
He's just no system well enough or college basketball. He
(31:15):
took a lot of one on one shot. But I'll
start watching the last light. So this kid is is fast,
quick and take it into stoopy once he learns the game.
I think that uh that you know, he would be
a real good point guard. And also Marino is our
best big man by far. I mean that kid is
for I watched this kid grow his size and everything
(31:37):
that this kid is getting better all the time. But
you know, I was when the first game started. What
y'all thank it? When first I missed, I was something thinking,
I don't boy here if you go again, But fortunately
Kentucky pushed the button. I don't know what they did.
The kid started playing team ball, playing look more like
a team and you know, and if we would play
like that all year, who probably wouldn't have this meaning losses.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thanks for the call, Larry, We appreciate that. Jack perlrim
that is kind of you know, where everybody was at.
You kind of spoke about it a little bit. But
the start of the game, you know, you know, digging
ourselves into a pretty pretty nice sized hole. Then jay
Li Low going down. What was the turning point of
the game for you or what was the what is
that that the cal used to call it? What was
(32:21):
the what was the tweak that happened throughout the game?
Where you know, every I mean even the play chart.
I know we put got some scrub time in at
the end, or some bench players got in at the end,
but uh, the rotation was pretty heavy too as well.
So we're getting a lot of people an opportunity. What
was what was the turning point forew during the game
where you felt like, Okay, we're finally getting control.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
They were running their stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
That's kind of what our frustration has been all year
is why is the offense just so clunky? Why Why
is the ball move ball sticking as much as it is?
Why are we getting so deep into the shot clock
before initiating and setting things up? And you know, running
that zoom action that you know made Amari Williams.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
A draft pick last season. I mean he'd he'd looked
like a superstar all year long.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And you now have a.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Ton of pieces that on paper should be able to
run the same stay. You know, the shooting is absolutely
not what it you know what it was last year.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know that tends to happen.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
You don't have the best shooter in college basketball the
way we did last year with Kobe Brea.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
But you still have a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Guys that that are you know, smart high basketball like
you guys that can that can run it. And we
saw it last night, Like I kind of crushed any
excuse that they didn't have the talent, didn't have the pieces,
because we saw them run it and it was it
was impressive. It was very, very good in Malachai ben
point Center, just kind of you know, auditioning it out.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Six assists, I.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Mean, a team high six assists for Malachi Moreno is awesome. Anthony,
I don't know, did you see that stat that he
hit his numbers with points, rebounds, steals, and there's one
one more points rebounds was assist points steals and rebounds
and rebounds and steals. He only two other Wildcats in
(34:16):
the history of the program have done it, and it
was Shay Gilders, Alexander and Rajon Rondo. So I don't
know about you, but I think the seven two hundred
and sixty five pounds center is a little bit different
than two world champion guards that went on to do
great things in the NDIA.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
See, I don't think he fits in, it's a little
too tall for that, but that shows how special the
kid is. Will continue the conversation after this, you are
listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday One is sports talk on
Who's Radio six thirty WLIPI.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty w
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Speaker 1 (34:50):
Welcome back. Stockyards Bank Sunday one is sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vaux, Borl
Robinson as well. If well, Bo, you don't have a
window on your side of the studio. The snow was
coming down down like it was really coming down, so
I mean more mouses in the house. Larry Vaught and
(35:11):
Jack Pilgrim. But Larry Vaugh I did want to run
his body when only got three minutes left in this segment.
That's why I'm gonna throw this out really quickly, because
tell me you agree with this sentiment or not. Larry
from Lebnon called and he spoke about he wished we
could have got Kurt Signetti earlier. And everybody now that
I'm not gonna lie, Indiana looks really really good, like
they look good. They look like an NFL team. But
(35:35):
the peoples are saying, see why can't we do that?
I mean, he's lightning in the bottle. I don't know,
maybe he may be the next Urban Meyer, Steve Spurry.
Maybe he maybe one of those came from a smaller
school and decides to just take off and become one
of the greatest coaches ever. But when people keep relating
that to the Kentucky thing, tell me what you think
about the scenario, Larry Vaught. When Kentucky was looking for
(35:58):
a coach after after through Joker Phillips, we wanted to coach.
That was not an attractive job. This job was not attractive.
So Mark Stoops came to us. He wanted to be here.
He knew what our plan was. The plan was laid out,
He laid out his plan, and this is that is
why he wanted to be here. Fast forward to now,
people are saying, maybe we kept Mark two years too long,
(36:21):
We should have went for Signetti prior to now. This
is where it gets murky for me, This is where
it gets a little uneased. I don't think at that point,
even if you want to let Mark Stoops go, and
I know the bio was a big problem even two
years ago, you we didn't want to let Mark Stoops go,
or if you were going to let him go, I'm
(36:41):
not sure. If you tell Kirk Signetti that here you
have a you have an unsigned check, do what you
want to do with So I still don't think we
get him under those circumstances. Would you agree or not
agree with? First, when we first got Stoops, it was
not an attractive job. So all these people who are
experienced success, it's just like Mark Steps did flattened out
(37:02):
at some point. But even when we were getting rid
of even when people started murmuring about getting rid of
Stoops two years ago, I don't think that our letting
department was putting the sales pitch out there that was
going to attract a good coach or a coach like
Kurt Signetti. Agree or not agree, I.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Would agree that might not also have done a thorough
enough search to have vaulted a guy like Kurt Signetti
to the top of their list. They might have been
too hung up on where people were coaching and things
like that have had the courage to go out and
hire a Signette, because it would take a little courage
to bring a guy in from James Madison to coach
(37:47):
in the SEC. And I don't know that I think
the UK administration would have done that, But I know
Indiana did, and they're sure glad and they got it rolling,
you know. And Indiana got two commitments from to the
top four junior football players in Kentucky on Saturday, so
they're they're off the big start to keep going.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, we can't get Kurt, but we got Will. So
he's gonna turn. He's gonna do a Kirk signetty next year.
I'm calling my shot we'll be back after this year.
Listen Stockyards Bank Sunday morning sports talk on Who's Radio
six thirty WLAP
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Valp coming to
you from brisk downtown Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's gonna be a long show. It's gonna be a
good show because UK Men's basketball one. And I know
that makes uh, that makes Jack Pilgrim a happy guy,
but I am running on maybe three hours of sleep.
Larry Vault, Jack Pilger, Bo Robinson, Well, first let me
say this, I don't know what Bo Robinson has done.
(00:41):
And Billy Billy Rutledge. If you listen to Tom Leech throughout
the week, then you got the KSR pregame show with
Billy and those guys, and you got the real KSR
show that comes on at ten o'clock. Well not the
real it's all KSR. But so there's a people are
putting messages on the community refrigerator. There are items, so
the items in there that I thought were community and
(01:04):
I found out maybe last year that some of that
stuff in there was bowls and he snowed in here.
He had that's his survival package. But now people are
putting notes on them so they know what you can
drink or eat what you can and cannot eat and drink,
which is pretty cool. So I don't know if that's
a message to me, or if that's a message to
Bo or if that's a good thing the message. What's
(01:24):
the message Billy? It says Billy, then it says fair game.
So I don't know if it's Billy's and he's telling
everybody it's fair game, or somebody's telling him Billy that
whatever's in that jug is fair game. I'll go check
it out during the break. Yeah, let me give your game. Yeah,
or Billy can text her whatever. Let me know. But
Larry Vaught, Jack Pilgrim, bo Robinson, I'm only going on
(01:46):
three hours asleep because last night, this morning, whichever one
you want to call it, about two thirty two forty
five am, I play Real Lifetime and Jerry there was
a mouse in the house, and I've been up since
(02:07):
three o'clock. So, Larry Vaut, Jack Pilgrim, bar Robinson, what
I did was I took a camera, one of my
outside motion cameras and brought it in the house, and
I set a trap up and I and so every
time it goes on, when motion comes it'll my whole
house will say there's motion in whatever room, So it
wake me up in the middle night, wakes me up.
(02:27):
I pulled my phone out and I'm watching Here comes
here comes Jerry mouse nibbling on the nibbling on the trap,
just eating, like just eating away at the peanut butter.
Well blow and behold the mouse leaves with a full stomach.
So three oh five. I don't want to be outde
I don't want to be outdone. I go get the trap.
(02:49):
It's old wooden trap, the old wooden joints, the one
that you pull the thing back and if you don't
watch your fingers, it catch your fingers. So I think
it was secure too well, Larry vaught, and the mouse
could just nibble on the food without it even setting off.
So I went and doctored the trap up. Now at
this point, it's like three thirty five, three forty in
the morning, and so I just played a couple of
(03:13):
games listening, lo and behold. Thirty minutes later, you hear
there's motion and such and such a room. So I
pull out my phone. Before I can get the app
pulled up on my phone. All their hair is a
loud got it got him now that by the time
we was still on there, it ain't leaving until somebody
(03:35):
comes and removes it. But so and plus I'm leaving
it as a message to all his other like cousins
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
If they see him laid.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Out, the rest of them will probably just cat so
before we get to the show, if anybody knows, because
I'm assuming he has family members somewhere, so I don't
want to stay up all night. If anybody has a
better method of instead of sealing my whole house, because
I can't do that just yet. If anybody has a
better method of catching a mouse, let me know.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
But you need peppermint spray. Spray the mouse if you want,
But get some peppermint spray from home depot spray the
outside perimeter of your house, okay, because mice hate peppermint.
They can't stand it well.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But if they're already in the house, they're not going
to leave.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, that's a bigger problem in there. Yeah, so you'll
have to pay somebody three hundred dollars an exterminator for
them to tell you that you have mice in the
house or maybe one mouse, okay, which you already knew.
So you need to save yourself some money and go
get the glue traps. Yeah, get the glue traps. And
I mean it's crol to see a little mouse struggling
(04:41):
there in the glue trap. But you just got to
do what you do and get rid of them all.
And make sure your floors are clean. I don't foresee
you being somebody that leaves crumbs on the floor or
anything like that, but take a vacuum around the inside
perimeter of your house and get the crumbs up and
things like that. Make sure you don't eat food around
things like that because they're attracted. So there's all kinds
(05:03):
of precautions you can take on your own to prevent
this from happening.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Or while you're on a hot streak, just go ahead
and keep put a little more bait out there and
just get all those rascals at one. Why he can't
because I've never in my house when there's been one mouse,
there's always been more.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And that is probably my plan, Larry Vault. I want
to catch them one by one. I want to have
a meeting with each one of them bad boys, one
on one on one.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So I think I'm gonna keep catching them.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But I think I'm gonna do the glue traps, but
I don't want to watch them struggle and one what
I ain't gonna say too bad. But if you want
to see the video, Larry Bow, I can show you
the video.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I want to see the video.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's kind of gruesome, but I.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Don't think the glue traps work as well. But I've
got so old I can't use the traps. Like what
you're talking is up afraid. I want to cut my
finger off trying to settle.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Absolutely, it did snap a couple of times when I
made it more sensitive. It's snapped a couple of times
on my finger. But it was well worth it to
get that little joker. Jack Pilgrim, thanks for waiting so patiently.
Hopefully you and Billy don't have those little critters, but
you got a little baby so he can run around
and chase it instead of you know, a full grown adult.
But Jack Pilgrim saw the game yesterday was still liking
(06:09):
are you back on the But it was it was
a long week for you, I guess because me and
week you probably weren't feeling the best.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was a miserable week. Man.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It was just the man what a what a swing
of emotions to uh be where we were leaving Missouri,
and then the first three minutes of the game when
Jalen Low goes down and you're a couple of minutes
after that, Kentucky goes down by double double.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Digits, the Boo Birds come out of upp.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Arena and you're like, well, I guess it's just gonna
be that one of those years. I guess we just
have to accept our fate and go, well, they're there,
they are who they are, and we just kind of
have to deal with the fan reaction and it's gonna
it's just gonna stick. It's just gonna really stink. So
uh to tell you my my swing of emotions for
(07:00):
from that ten minute mark when you're down by double
digits to all the other awesome, awesome, awesome play the
last three quarters of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Essentially it was awesome. It was an unbelievable environment at
its peak.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
We got will Stein in there. Will Stein ended up
being the total turnaround game changer of that. He gets
shown on the jumbo tron in Kentucky goes on a
seventy to forty run to close out the game.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
After his face is shown on the Jumbo trial.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
We got a former five star committing in front of
the student section.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The vibes are very good that last.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Thirty minutes and it leads to a twenty four point
win that Kentucky just had to have. I mean, where
we were in desperation mode, drowning mode. Just got to
find a way to salvage this and get back on
the right track and get some feel good moments. And
there were quite a bit of them last night, led
by none other than Georgetown Zone Malachi Moreno game MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He was amazing.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Before we get.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Into the nuts and bolts of the game, who got
the bigger ovation, Who got the louder cheers?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Pat or wheel.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Ooh, that's it Pat for sure, Because honestly, can I
tell you that I was starstruck being in the same
room as Pat and just knowing his impact on the
game of basketball and like like, hey, this dude is
not just a Kentucky basketball legend. This is a the
sport of basketball legend of of what he's the impact
(08:26):
he's made on it as a player, as a coach
and now as an executive with with the Miami Heat.
I mean, the dude everything Pat Riley has touched, has
turned the gold in the basketball world over decades and
decades and decades of doing it. So to be in
the same room as the as the godfather, I mean
he is, he is the og of all og.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Godfathers. It was very very cool to see him in there, and.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
He definitely got the pop that was He's so clearly deserved.
And he said, you know, he took the microphone kind
of held court a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
That was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Said, you know, I was here for four years and
it was some the best four years of my life
being in Lexington of the University of Kentucky, and fans
have lost their minds, So love will Sneine. He definitely
gave the Cats a pop. But man, Pat pat Riley
is one of one. And Larry Voe did you know
who Pat?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
When we just said first name, Pat didn't need a
last name because you know who we were talking about.
And does he normally come? As long as I've been
in town for almost thirty years now, I think I've
ever seen him in person. I think I would be
like Jack. I think I would be kind of stopping
my tracks if I seen Pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, of course, you guys are so young, you didn't
get to watch you play. But I can remember to
this day where I was when the Rough Fronts lost
that game to Texas Western. I mean, that was one
of the most popular University Kentucky basketball teams ever. With
fans that are still around that were able to watch
that team play, it was fantastic. So to have all
(09:50):
those guys back in Repp Arena was pretty amazing. And
I think that is the first time Pat's maybe been back.
Of course he's usually kind of busy, and I don't
know what else he may not have been back for,
but it was nice to have him back, and I'll
and to get to see Kentucky when I'm sure he
was scoring a little bit early when Kuch he gets
(10:10):
started like that, but were in front of those guys,
and because had sixty six reps, Runts teams was still
one of the all time favorites and one of the
most fun teams I've ever watched play.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I had a chance to visit with the Runts yesterday
before the game, a little bit before halftime and afterwards,
and they were all smiles and they were happy to
be at Rupp Arena, and I told them myself. Being
born in seventy seven. Yeah, of course heard about the
seventy eight team, and you know, the eighty four Final
(10:44):
four team and growing up watching Kyle Macy and Bowie
and Turbin. But the first actual conversation that I can
remember my dad having with both of my grandfathers was
about that Reps Runs team, And I said, you know,
to the older generation and that history passed down to
me as a Kentucky fan. I said, you mean quite
a bit to the Big Blue Nation and the fans
(11:05):
who remember you, and I was thrilled to see them
at Rubb Arena. They were awesome to be around.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I could imagine that and doesn't help. I mean it helps,
I guess a lot more. Getting a big win after
the wedding helps. Yeah, after Jack said a rough week, Jack,
I did notice the last eight minutes rallied off twenty
six points to pull away. But I'm like you when
Low went down earlier. And it's kind of like I
told Larry and you all earlier, when that thing pops out, Man,
(11:35):
it pops out at the weirdest moments, and they could
pop out at any moment, So it's I don't know,
what are we looking for Jack as far as him
returning from it, and have we figured out some things
because it seems as the ebbs and flows of the
game were up and down, but it seemed like we
finished pretty strong and everybody was pretty confident. Or I
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still think I think. I still think Pope is planned
Jedi mind trick. I just don't think he's showing his
lineups that he wants to use when March comes around.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Well, buddy, he needs to make sure March does come
around and use the lineups that that that actually get
him into the tournament. I don't I don't think he
can afford any more Jedi mind tricks. I think we're
well well well past that point. So I I thoroughly,
thoroughly hope you you are wrong in that in that assessment.
But yeah, I'm concerned for sure because all of the
(12:28):
feedback I had heard up to this point with Jalen
was he was three and done. He's he's on a
three strikes you're out without policy. Once he gets that
third dislocation, they're going to pull him and he's going
to have the season ending surgery and that's going to
be that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So I I as soon.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
As I saw it, and you know, I felt the
same way against Saint John's and he survived and came
back in the second half. They said that it shifted
instead of dislocated and popped out. Like we're getting into
like the super super specifics of it, whether it's a
actual dislocation or a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Slip or whatever with that one.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But apparently that one, it just shifted out of place
and they kind of scooted it right back where it's
supposed to be, and he was good to go in
the second half. So I don't know the difference between
that and this, but all I know is that he
looked quite a bit different in this instance and came
back in his arm within his kind of sleeve, kind
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of had a like a sling looking thing to protect it,
and just did not look like somebody who was actively
ready to go for coming in anytime soon or even
down the road.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And I will.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Note something that fans should keep an eye on is
the NCAA. The rule is thirty percent of games. Thirty
percent of games is the maximum for a medical red shirt.
It's technically in the first half of the season, So
I think the Incuba would kind of have kind a
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little bit of leeway there because we're technically sixteenth game
is just just on the back end of the start
of the second half of the season, although he did
it in the first half of that game to meet that,
if you want to call it, you know, super specifics
that the midway point of the season is halftime. So
he has quite the argument for the n C double
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A if he'd like to make one for a medical
red shirt. So I think that's just something that if, if,
if surgery is even slightly on his mind, and something
he wants to consider his family needs to consider to
preserve this year, kind of similar to to what Kirk
Reaesa did last season. It's at least something to monitor
and something to keep in mind that he could make
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a real fight with the n C Double A. So
it's it's interesting, very very interesting, and I hate it
for him because he's a heck of a talent and
I'd rather him be on the floor helping Kentucky win
basketball games.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And that is something that would go I was.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Gonna say it would make for him though, if he's
going to be out an extended period, I mean now,
because he can't if he plays another game, the medical
red church gone, and that way he would be wouldn't
be able to have to save that year of college eligibility.
So if that shoulder, if he's going to be out
at least right now, say he's kind of no, he's
going to say out two three more weeks and then
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risk and coming back and getting hurt and still needing
the surgery. I mean, logically it almost seems like it'll
make sense for him to have the surgery.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Now we have to head to a break, Larry Vaught,
I got a response for that, and see how you
feel about that when we come back, if you like
to join the show eight five nine to eight zero
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Speaker 1 (15:50):
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lines were lit up. You'd like to join the line?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
You not?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Because Jake is up? What do you got for us
this morning?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Jake?
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Good morning, Anthony?
Speaker 9 (16:22):
How are you doing this morning? I'm feeling pretty bad
that I missed the game last night.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well you got to stop watching then, because they looked
pretty good there at the end. So if you were,
if you were bringing this bad luck back, did you
watch Tuesday night?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Wednesday night?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
No, I didn't miss it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I missed that one too.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Oh I missed that one.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
I missed the lost and I missed the wind So.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I got you.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
So I was just gonna ask Larry how how how
the Reps runs got their name.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Because the tallest player on the team was maybe six
six six sixty five and one day, uh Adolph just
talked about he just had a bunch of runs out there.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Playing six to five was pretty tall back then, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Larry not?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
There were teams that had bigger players. Usually your center
was a little bit bigger than that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Was she got he was the tallest player it was.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It might have been do you remember Larry could have
been Riley Hu.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It could have been Riley or Brad Bounds Larry.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, of course Brad didn't start, so yeah, among the
because Jas was the starter at center. To believe that
Riley was actually taller than he.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Wasn't he or he may have been. I gotta go
back and kind of look at that roster.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But sure jump higher than JS.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
I tell that, Hey, Jake, thanks for the car. We
appreciate that trip.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Trip. Remember a little history.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Speaking of Riley, I want to point this out because
I don't want to forget this. Pat right, he did
one of the sweetest things I've ever seen at Rupperino
when they were introducing them, and I don't know how
many people caught this, but they were introducing the reps.
They were introducing the runs coming out to half court,
and it was Thadjareas, Louis Dampier and pat Riley. Well,
(18:18):
the PA announcer, remember Tommy Kron who passed away, said
Tommy Krohn's name, and pat Riley did the sign of
the cross in honor of Tommy Kron. I don't know
how many people called that, but I thought It was
a really sweet moment and very nice for pat Riley
to remember his teammate like that. How tall is pat Riley?
(18:39):
I've never seen him in real life. I just seen
him standing next to Lebron and other huge guys.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Sixty three or so six four. Oh, Tommy Kron might
have been the tallest when Bowie's boy played point guard.
It might have been Krin that was actually six five
or something himself.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
May Ben, I'm going to look that up. I got
a couple of old Kentucky books from Russell Rice with
me this morning, so I'm gonna flip through them and
see if i can find something.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, well, again, we got to get to break. We
can continue this because I still didn't get to ask
Larry my question or give him the details to my
my commentary and see how he feels about it. Give
us a call, let us know how you feel about
UK athletics, UK basketball. Are you on or off? And
if you know how to catch a mouse? I'm open
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Speaker 3 (19:41):
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Speaker 2 (20:00):
I was well.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Our point guard was six foot five eleven five ten.
I was the second smallest person. We went like six
four six four six five six six sixty seven six eight,
So we had a pretty decent sized basketball team. I
didn't realize when he said, ruugh Runts, But I talked
to some people who played back in the sixties, and
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they always talked about, uh, well, I was sixty three.
I was the center, like they just like Earth didn't
just present six five six seven guys back then. So
that's why I asked you, Larry. I was told that
by an old head that he uh that he played
center because there wasn't nobody bigger than sixty three.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well, that that often was the case sometimes especially in
high school, but most of the major college teams, they
would have a Jim Andrews dan Essel somebody like that
that would be a good bit bigger than sixty three
or something playing center for them. I mean Tennessee had
a seven footer back in that time that I can remember.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I got you this what I was going to ask you, Larry.
Then we're gonna get to the phone lines. You're on
the phone line, just hold on. We get right to
you in a second. But Larry, and I guess Jack
can chime in on as well. But when you talked
about the Jaalen Low, from my experience both just in
sports and general injuries of those sorts, you kind of
sound as if you're asking, like Jalen Low has an
(21:21):
option whether to come back or have surgery. And I
agree with you absolutely. If the decision is made that
you know it's gonna be game by game, possession by possession,
whether you're gonna stay on the court, then yep, for
his health, for just for his future, go ahead and
have the surgery now, because as we stated a couple
of weeks back, maybe a couple months back, that we
don't want to, you know, have to every possession, be
(21:44):
sitting on the edge of your seat. Will we have
him for the next possession? Back down the court? But
I say, and the reason I say this because I mean,
he's a college athlete. He's a high energy athlete. He's
a guard. So he's always in the past online, he's
running through screens, he's that's all that happened yesterday. You're
gonna swipe at the ball, You're gonna try and grab rebounds.
The ball is not always thrown at your chest, so
your arms are always gonna be away from your body.
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So there's really I don't and his instinct and his
reactions are what's gonna cause it. So he's not gonna
be like, hey, oh my shoulders messed up, let me
not reach. No, the first reaction is gonna be let
me reach for the ball, and the more it pops out,
it's gonna pop out more frequently. So I'm listening to
you and Jack, Jack kind of sounds as if we
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need to start preparing for his future. You sound as
if there's a scenario where he has one more shot
to try to stay on the court.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Larry, No, I'm saying, if he takes one more shot,
to stay on the court, then his medical red shirt
is gone. Jack is right about that. So I mean,
I think if you're looking, so if you're looking, as
Jack said it looked when he came out of there
last night, that there's like a gad, it's gonna be
ready to play anyway when they play the next game.
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So if you're looking two three more weeks down the road,
and then you're thinking comes back, and with the way
it's been going on since June's coming back and going
to play the rest of the season seemed pretty slim.
Maybe it's just time to be a day. You've played
through all the pain, you've tried, you've done everything that
you can. Just go ahead and get your surgery and
start thinking about next season.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And Jack, before we get to before we get to
the phone lines, your rebutted that if you were a batman,
what would we see? We see Jalen anymore? This this
year just not not you to be in medical for UK.
But this is just Jack Pilgrim stops.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I don't think we see him again the rest of
the season. I think the timing is just so obvious,
glaring like this is the absolute and then he still
have to make a case to the NCAA because he
did play.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
A sixteenth in the sixteenth.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Game for for the the eligibility requirement.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's just he played in the first half.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Of the sixteenth game, which would on I mean, it's
a technicality and there he'd have to he'd have to
stretch it because the rule is technically in playing in
the first half of the season, which I in the
inca's eyes, should it is, you know, fifteen games in
or sixteen. Fifteen is the first half, sixteenth and on
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is the second half. But you know, you're you're getting
into the nitty gritty of it that I I mean,
we got tenthier guys applying for medical red shirts and
stuff right now, so it's absolutely insane. So I think
Jalen would be just fine applying and said, hey, I
played an extra three minutes over what my allotment is.
Please give me, you know, please give me my eligibility.
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I think he'd have absolutely no problem whatsoever getting his
medical red shirt. And I think that was, you know,
something they they like. I don't think it's like this
taboo topic to bring it up like. I think it
was something they've they've kept in kind of their back
pocket and kept in mind, knowing this entire time that hey,
if something's got to go wrong, I'd rather.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It go wrong in these nine games.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
You know, before nine has been kind of the cutoff
for him of you know, once we hit nine, then
that's when we start having to really make some hard decisions. So, uh,
in a way, it's kind of I don't want to
say convenient, but in terms of clarity, you'd rather it
happened right in the moment when it did and allow
everything else to kind of fall into place. With with
offense and how well they played without him and running
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their stuff and Malachi kind of being point center for
Kentucky and kind of really getting into the weeds of
their offense and stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It was great. I mean, how they played without.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Jalen did give me optimism if we do have to
live in a post Jalen reality for you know, the
back end of the season. So I do not think
that we see him the rest of the year. Anthony now,
and I think I would agree with you. Let's get
to the phone lines. Let's see what John Short has
to say. Good morning, John Short, what do you got
(26:02):
for us?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
What a good win we had last night? Y'all great Americans.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It was a great win, and you are great American.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I think what I think what Days should have done,
The should have had a surgery before the season began.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, Larry, what you agree with that? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Or maybe because we've been questioned all along with JQ
and him, did we know how seriously? Maybe they didn't
think of that serious, Larry, Or you think they were
just optimistic.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Well, I think the first time in June when he
did it, the optimism was he would be okay. And
then he went all the way till mid October before
it happened again. And then I'm thinking, you got a
young man that came to Kentucky to play, and he
still wanted to play, thought he could play through the pain,
didn't know how much. Hew often it would keep happening.
And I think he just had a guy that really
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wanted to play. You're talking about that sometimes today you
fussed guys because they just want and for the money.
I think I think he wanted to play, and so
I think he was gonna do everything he could to
try not to have that surge and be able to
be part of this team which he thought was gonna
be really special. And I think he's played to probably
a lot more pain than what we understand, and he's
(27:15):
done all that he can. So no, I don't blame
him for going ahead and trying. I think that's what
he came to Kentucky for was to play, and that's
what he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
John, I don't think you're gonna keep him up with
Larry John. I don't think you're gonna keep him off
the court. He wanted to play and he was gonna play.
What else you got?
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Okay, I think now, Jesson, I think Jeffre Johns is
starting now for the rest of the season at a
point guard.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You that is something.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Now we're talking John, Now we're talking John.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Tuggy.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, thank you for the call. Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Well, we're gonna win today too. Gonna be Oklahoma by
five biggins today, it would be Jim danneyby game I
only sell tenswelve one hundred points.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Can tell you went about five biggins?
Speaker 6 (27:56):
You said a score over one hundred points against Oklahoma?
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Yeah, yes, and we remember I had twenty points, twenty rebounds,
twenty fifth, twenty twenty. That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And you know tian Key's not back, right.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I know she may. She may be back the rest
of the season.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
I don't know, she may.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know, Claire definitely had one bucket last game.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, that's right for you.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Where are you getting us all this optimism from internal optimism?
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Because because some days going to happen. When I say that,
some days is gonna hand this well hand? And how
do we you not gymnastics fast Saturday? Saturday? Have we
do not gymnastics?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Larry?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The gymnastics team finished fourth. They were without All American
Crislyn Brosie who was in concussion protocol and didn't get
to compete, so that definitely hurt them. But the great
thing was is that Delaney Rodriguez, one of our favorites, Anthony,
she won the all around competition.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
See she's on par, she's on par John Short, John, Sure,
we appreciate the car. Oh we got to get back
to the phone lines, Larry and Larry and Jack. I'm
going to assume John Short probably played defensive back because
he don't stay rattled long. If we have a bit
of a bit of a rough patch man, John Short
is right back to five ten fifty Biggins next game.
(29:16):
He don't care about you know, the shortcomings, the bad
games we had. Let's get back to the phone lines.
See what Larry has to say. Good morning, Larry, what
do you got for us?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Well, yeah, you know, for our get on the A
men's basketball. I like to touch on football too, well,
one of other things. The girls are gonna have tough
time days. That key, I mean, he shows the other age.
But you know she's had from fire. You can't replace
size and that big center for Oklahoma. He's hug She's
a load. But anyway, as far as as far as football,
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real quick, Indiana, you know, why didn't Kentucky been at
Lucky you know when super side to go to him?
We could have been lugging enough to hire a guy
like that. I probably would have said, I've never heard
of the guy, you know, but he was want to.
He's probably a modern day Nick Saban coming on. I mean,
I've watched Indiana, I've been watching them all year or
some of that stuff. And this guy he never cruts
(30:09):
now like saving. And he also his kids, his offensive
defense for fall us, I mean, and the special teams.
Everything that guy coaches just so much like saving when
he had his better team in the end, and you're lucky.
I hope you can hold on to him. You know,
they somebody's gonna comeact him off with a lot of
money one time.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Looking at him, They're looking at a lot of a
lot of NFL teams looking at him.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Yeah, this guy's will be something. But any anyway, as
far as basketball, I will agree with John Short you know, uh,
I don't think I would play Jaya Lowe or even
Quaintness anymore. I mean, if it's me, if I was
a coach Attuck, I will never recruit the kid that's
coming off injuries cause he's just missed too much time.
You know, you're you're banking on him coming in and
(30:54):
having you in and really when you get so far
in the season, they disrupted the chemistry. So I would
I'm like John sure, I would start maybe not start him.
I would play Johnson a lot more. This kid has
got the skills. He can see that. The only thing
that held him by Curt and season he done. He
took a lot of shots that that wasn't you know.
He's just no system well enough or college basketball. He
(31:15):
took a lot of one on one shot. But I'll
start watching the last light. So this kid is is fast,
quick and take it into stoopy once he learns the game.
I think that uh that you know, he would be
a real good point guard. And also Marino is our
best big man by far. I mean that kid is
for I watched this kid grow his size and everything
(31:37):
that this kid is getting better all the time. But
you know, I was when the first game started. What
y'all thank it? When first I missed, I was something thinking,
I don't boy here if you go again, But fortunately
Kentucky pushed the button. I don't know what they did.
The kid started playing team ball, playing look more like
a team and you know, and if we would play
like that all year, who probably wouldn't have this meaning losses.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thanks for the call, Larry, We appreciate that. Jack perlrim
that is kind of you know, where everybody was at.
You kind of spoke about it a little bit. But
the start of the game, you know, you know, digging
ourselves into a pretty pretty nice sized hole. Then jay
Li Low going down. What was the turning point of
the game for you or what was the what is
that that the cal used to call it? What was
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the what was the tweak that happened throughout the game?
Where you know, every I mean even the play chart.
I know we put got some scrub time in at
the end, or some bench players got in at the end,
but uh, the rotation was pretty heavy too as well.
So we're getting a lot of people an opportunity. What
was what was the turning point forew during the game
where you felt like, Okay, we're finally getting control.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
They were running their stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
That's kind of what our frustration has been all year
is why is the offense just so clunky? Why Why
is the ball move ball sticking as much as it is?
Why are we getting so deep into the shot clock
before initiating and setting things up? And you know, running
that zoom action that you know made Amari Williams.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
A draft pick last season. I mean he'd he'd looked
like a superstar all year long.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And you now have a.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Ton of pieces that on paper should be able to
run the same stay. You know, the shooting is absolutely
not what it you know what it was last year.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know that tends to happen.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
You don't have the best shooter in college basketball the
way we did last year with Kobe Brea.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
But you still have a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Guys that that are you know, smart high basketball like
you guys that can that can run it. And we
saw it last night, Like I kind of crushed any
excuse that they didn't have the talent, didn't have the pieces,
because we saw them run it and it was it
was impressive. It was very, very good in Malachai ben
point Center, just kind of you know, auditioning it out.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Six assists, I.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Mean, a team high six assists for Malachi Moreno is awesome. Anthony,
I don't know, did you see that stat that he
hit his numbers with points, rebounds, steals, and there's one
one more points rebounds was assist points steals and rebounds
and rebounds and steals. He only two other Wildcats in
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the history of the program have done it, and it
was Shay Gilders, Alexander and Rajon Rondo. So I don't
know about you, but I think the seven two hundred
and sixty five pounds center is a little bit different
than two world champion guards that went on to do
great things in the NDIA.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
See, I don't think he fits in, it's a little
too tall for that, but that shows how special the
kid is. Will continue the conversation after this, you are
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Speaker 1 (34:50):
Welcome back. Stockyards Bank Sunday one is sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vaux, Borl
Robinson as well. If well, Bo, you don't have a
window on your side of the studio. The snow was
coming down down like it was really coming down, so
I mean more mouses in the house. Larry Vaught and
(35:11):
Jack Pilgrim. But Larry Vaugh I did want to run
his body when only got three minutes left in this segment.
That's why I'm gonna throw this out really quickly, because
tell me you agree with this sentiment or not. Larry
from Lebnon called and he spoke about he wished we
could have got Kurt Signetti earlier. And everybody now that
I'm not gonna lie, Indiana looks really really good, like
they look good. They look like an NFL team. But
(35:35):
the peoples are saying, see why can't we do that?
I mean, he's lightning in the bottle. I don't know,
maybe he may be the next Urban Meyer, Steve Spurry.
Maybe he maybe one of those came from a smaller
school and decides to just take off and become one
of the greatest coaches ever. But when people keep relating
that to the Kentucky thing, tell me what you think
about the scenario, Larry Vaught. When Kentucky was looking for
(35:58):
a coach after after through Joker Phillips, we wanted to coach.
That was not an attractive job. This job was not attractive.
So Mark Stoops came to us. He wanted to be here.
He knew what our plan was. The plan was laid out,
He laid out his plan, and this is that is
why he wanted to be here. Fast forward to now,
people are saying, maybe we kept Mark two years too long,
(36:21):
We should have went for Signetti prior to now. This
is where it gets murky for me, This is where
it gets a little uneased. I don't think at that point,
even if you want to let Mark Stoops go, and
I know the bio was a big problem even two
years ago, you we didn't want to let Mark Stoops go,
or if you were going to let him go, I'm
(36:41):
not sure. If you tell Kirk Signetti that here you
have a you have an unsigned check, do what you
want to do with So I still don't think we
get him under those circumstances. Would you agree or not
agree with? First, when we first got Stoops, it was
not an attractive job. So all these people who are
experienced success, it's just like Mark Steps did flattened out
(37:02):
at some point. But even when we were getting rid
of even when people started murmuring about getting rid of
Stoops two years ago, I don't think that our letting
department was putting the sales pitch out there that was
going to attract a good coach or a coach like
Kurt Signetti. Agree or not agree, I.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Would agree that might not also have done a thorough
enough search to have vaulted a guy like Kurt Signetti
to the top of their list. They might have been
too hung up on where people were coaching and things
like that have had the courage to go out and
hire a Signette, because it would take a little courage
to bring a guy in from James Madison to coach
(37:47):
in the SEC. And I don't know that I think
the UK administration would have done that, But I know
Indiana did, and they're sure glad and they got it rolling,
you know. And Indiana got two commitments from to the
top four junior football players in Kentucky on Saturday, so
they're they're off the big start to keep going.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, we can't get Kurt, but we got Will. So
he's gonna turn. He's gonna do a Kirk signetty next year.
I'm calling my shot we'll be back after this year.
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