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Speaker 1 (00:05):
With its devastating hurricane season that we have faced and
still waiting to see what the impact of Hurricane Milton
will be here in Florida. What it's really demonstrated to
us is that leadership matters. Who we vote into office matters.
You can just look at Governor DeSantis' response here in
Florida versus that of Mary Cooper in North Carolina, a
(00:28):
Democrat governor or. You look at the failed response from
the federal government to Hurricane Helen, waiting days to activate
the military, which is what Joe Biden did. And then
you look at as we wait for Hurricane Milton to hit,
just the infighting between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris saying, oh, I called Governor DeSantis, he didn't pick
up the phone. And then you've got Joe Biden saying, well, actually,
(00:50):
you know, I've been on the phone with Governor de Santis.
He's doing everything he needs to do. I gave him
my personal number. It's chaos with Democrats and their response.
Then you've got second Harry Mayorkas saying that, oh, FEMA
is running out of money, that they're not going to
have the funds to take us through a hurricane season,
and then you see these reports of FEMA spending all
this money on the migrant crisis. So I guess what
(01:11):
this is underscore to me is how much leadership matters
and why it's important to make sure that we elect
the right people, particularly as we head towards election season.
So we're going to talk to someone who has seen
the devastation in North Carolina firsthand, who has witnessed response efforts,
who can really speak to the truth of what's actually
(01:32):
going on there. He is a marine, Julio Rosas you
know him. He is a reporter, a national correspondent for
The Blaze. He has been on the ground during the
George Floyd riots, He's been on the ground during hurricane
relief efforts. He's actually in Tampa right now as we
wait for Hurricane Milton.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So we're going to.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Get his take on what's actually happening, what should we
know about the government's response, and what should you know
as Milton barrels down towards Florida. Stay tuned for Julio Rosas.
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CJ dot org. Well, Leo, it's great to have you
on this show. We were just talking about how you're
gonna be going out here. You know, obviously we're awaiting
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for Hurricane Milton to come through as Floridians, and you're
going to be out you know, sort of looking at
the disaster relief efforts and being out there. Most people
run away from this stuff, but you run towards it,
but you do important work and doing so Yeah, I
mean this is I mean, especially what we saw in
the afromaticalleen for not just supported but North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It's it's important because it was because the people on
the ground in North Carolina getting the word out saying, hey,
people are cut off, they need help. Now, that's how
the civilians were able to organize themselves and just run
their own supply runs, their rescue operations for days before
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the federal government really came into came into the area
in force. And even still, i mean almost you know,
more than a week later, the federal government response is
still lacking. And that's that's that's just concerning obviously, But
you know, I don't have the same concerns with here
in Florida just because of how well the state is
(04:24):
run when it comes to the deak for response. But
I mean, this is this is the post to be
you know, once in a lifetime of hurricane for for
the Gulf Coast. It looks like it's going to hit
more closer or more south of Tampa Bay than initially projected,
but it you know, the Tampa Bay area is still
expecting to get hit pretty hard, which really does speak
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to you how important leadership is. You know, you had
mentioned that, you know, here in Florida, we know that
Governor DeSantis, you know, obviously he can't control the hurricane
and the impact the hurricane has, but he certainly can
control the response to it. And you know, we know
that he's got it covered.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We know that, you know, he's going to respond in
the best way that is possible for anyone in political office.
But that really hasn't seemed to be the case in
North Carolina, and it certainly hasn't been the scene or
it hasn't seemed to be the case with the federal
government's response and helping there. I guess take us through
because you know, one is the media telling the full
(05:22):
story about what's really happening in North Carolina and some
of these devastated communities. You know, I know you've been there,
You've been on the ground. You know you did it,
ride around with Rep. Quorry Mills. I guess, take us through,
like what did you see? You know, how bad is it?
You know, take us through what's happening there on the
ground for so many of these people who are still missing,
(05:43):
you know, still missing and still you know, desperately in
need of help.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah. Yeah, So I was able to go on these
flights from both an airplane and helicopters with Commerce Courtmills
of Florida, uh and also Mercury One, which is Glenn
Beck's disaster relief organization, And it was very It's very
(06:08):
interesting to see because obviously the reason why the response
to Hurricane Hilling up in the mountains is a lot
different is because it's up in the mountains, right, And
so it is without exaggeration when when I say that
it wasn't just you know, there was you know, a
road was washed out in one part here, in another
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part here, and another part here. I'm talking the entire
length of the road was just gone. And these are
the only roads that are able to connect these these
these little smaller towns and localities. And so when it's
when it's not just yeah, there's a giant pothole, but
it goes on for miles. Obviously, that presents challenges for yes,
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that the ad and the personnel from the federal government
can be in Ashville, and Ashville has been stabilized for
for quite some time now. It's a matter of then
gantting those people and those resources into those smaller places
that are hard to get to. And that's why, that's
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why the media has been misleading when they just said, well, no, no,
the federal government is there. I mean, look look at
all the things that they were able to bring in.
And that's true, but again it needs to get to
more places than just Ashville or Boom. He needs to
go to places like Road River, you know, Pensacola and
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just all these like little places that have like a
thousand and a thousand, five hundred people. And that's been
the big frustration is that the civilians and the veterans
and the locals and volunteers are coming up from our state.
They were running these operations for days before FEMA really
started to show up, and so that's why there was
frustration when then obviously FEMA has their way of running things,
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and they're trying to take over these these basically these
out and these supply missions and rescue missions, but there's
a bureaucracy, there's a rect tape that goes along with it,
because obviously it's the federal government. That's why there was
anger because people were saying, well, one, what took you
so long to get here? But then two, how dare
you tell us how to do things when we're running
things pretty smoothly now, you know, it's almost to the
(08:20):
point where it's like, we don't even need you guys
to be able to do this. Now, that's not to
say that every little bit doesn't help, but the way
that FEMA and the federal government has has gone about
North Carolina and those in it nearly forgotten places, that
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that anger and that frustration is certainly well placed front
of those guys. I'm not kidding when I tell you
that veterans literally just they they took over with the
owner's permission, the Harley Davidson Dealership and it's basically like
a forward operating base where you have basically the Ethical
(09:04):
Operations Center. You have the airfield, impromptu airfield where the
hell cut to fly in, they have to supply trucks
and the ATVs and UTVs going in and out. I
mean it was obviously, yeah, it was. It was kind
of chaotic and a lot was happening, but there was
a flow to it. I mean, there was there was
a process, and I mean all the veterans were armed.
(09:24):
I mean, it was just it was just it was
it was cool to see. I mean, like this is
what in private sistance. Yeah, yeah, like like the this
is what America is at its best right. It's where, Okay,
we have a problem. Obviously, it'd be great if the
government can help us, but in the meantime, we're going
to take care of it ourselves the best of our ability,
and we're not going to let these people just be
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shrended for days and weeks on end without any help.
We've got more with Julio.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
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And So for some of these people who are still stranded,
I mean, what's the access to them. I've seen you know,
you know via horseback, you know, writing via you know.
I guess how I guess how difficult is it to
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access some of these people who are still stranded.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's it's pretty difficult. I mean, even even by helicopter.
I mean, we were in a we were in a
decent sized helicopter. Wasn't it wasn't as big as a
black Hawk or anything. But it also it also wasn't
like a two sier, right, it was kind of somewhere
kind of in between that. And there were times where
it was kind of difficult to find a good landing
place because obviously not do you not do you just
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have like the regular you know, valleys and trees, But
obviously now there's a debris, there's down power lines, there's
there's down trees and branches that can make a landing
spot kind of difficult. And so obviously the helicopter is
the fastest way to kind of get to these places.
But sometimes, depending on where these people are, the only
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way to get to get to them still is only
on foot or orseback or mules or or something, and
obviously that takes a lot longer. So, I mean, when
we were in Pensacola, uh, North Carolina, the Chief Medical
Office or just just told us basically that we're going
to be digging ourselves out of this mess for months.
And that's kind of a problem because we're in October
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right being here with Florida, it doesn't really feel that way.
But the first time when we landed in Pensacola, they
it was it was sun was setting and it was
about sixty two degrees sixty degrees and that felt pretty
cold for obviously, and they were telling us that they're
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pretty good on food, they're pretty good on water. What
they need the most at that point is generators, fuel
for the generators, chain saws, tools, and replacement parts for
those chainsaws and everything, because it's gonna get cold, like
it's going to get actually pretty cold there with it,
you know, by by the middle of October, and so
they have no power and that obviously presents a problem
(12:51):
for for when it comes to cold weather challenges. So
you know, everyone's doing the best that they can given
the circumstances, but it was just devastating. I mean, it's
a beautiful area. I mean, I understand why people want
to live out there. I understand why people want to
spend time out there. But the downside to that, unfortunately,
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is that they are now cut off.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Why do you think it took the federal government so
long to respond? I mean, it took days for the
government for Biden to activate the military. And then you
have Secretary my Erica is coming out and saying that
FEMA is not going to have the money to take
us through this hurricane season. And there's been a lot
of questions about how FEMA has spent money, you know,
accusations that they've spent more than one point four billion
(13:42):
since the fall twenty two to address migrant crisis. You know,
I guess why do you think it's it took so
long for the government to respond. And then you know,
I guess, sort of what do you make of my
Erica's statement saying that, know, hey, like you're basically out
of luck, females running out of money.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, it's just it's just what we've come to expect
from the Biden Harris administration. I mean, it just they
take any problem that they are presented with and they
just find ways to make it ten times worse. Right,
And and that's typical of government just in general, right,
the federal government. But when you when you have incompetent
people in charge, because i mean, first of all, Biden
(14:25):
is not even really in charge at this point. I mean, like, yes,
he has the title of president, so that's a problem.
And you know, Harris is kind of trying to be
like the quasi. So it's just there's just this function, right,
There's just and it's just a complete opposite of what
we saw in the truck administration. I mean, for all
the chaos that the media like to make out during
his during his turn, he was the guy in charge
(14:47):
for the most part, right, I mean like he like
no one really questions his his his his command of
the office. Whereas with Biden and Harris and this weird
thing that they have now and it seems like they
both hate each other with what they're doing. That's just
a problem. That's that's the wrong way to run a government,
and it's especially the wrong way to handle a government
(15:08):
in a crisis situation. So you know there, so that's
problem number one. But then also number two, I think
it's just it just highlights how yeah, the spending priorities
and I mean since since the border crisis, and that
is not even really a border crisis, it's just a
general immigration crisis for the entire country. I mean yeah,
(15:28):
I mean it is a problem when the federal government
has no problem finding the money to be able to
spend literally billions of dollars on people that aren't US citizens,
and yet when it comes to disaster relief, it's all, well,
this is the funds and this is it, and if
we need more funds, then we got to call back
(15:49):
Congress and they got to vote and do it. It's
just like it's like, well, you guys are able to
kind of enagle for some other things, but when it
comes to the mountain people of western North Carolina, there's
all these all of a sudden, they're like, no, we
gotta we got to make sure we follow procedure on that.
I mean. So it's and it's not even just that,
but it's also all the money that we're spending overseas
(16:10):
and all how easy it is for the Biden Hereris
administration to go ahead and do that as opposed to
you know, well now their their hands are tied behind
their back when it comes to zassinally. So it's just
I just come back to it. It's just typical. It's
expected of the people that are currently in charge. And
again we don't even really know who that is. And
(16:32):
you know, hopefully things turn around after this election, but
the people in North Carolina can't wait that long.
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Speaker 2 (17:39):
You know what's interesting because you have those.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Comments from David Axelrod, which I'm sure you've seen, kind
of finding joy and the fact that some of these
areas in western North Carolina that vote Trump might not
be able to vote Trump. And then you know, speculating
that people in Nashville, you know, their quote unquote upscale
and liberal voters, and that they're going to be able
to find ways to cast ballots, but basically just finding
(18:03):
glee that some of these Trump supporters and rural storm
impacted areas might not build a vote and that might
impact Donald Trump electorally. To be completely cynical, is there
any way that sort of the lack of response from
North Carolina and the Democratic governor there, and the lack
(18:26):
of response from the federal government, which is obviously, you know,
currently occupied by Democrats, is any of it political?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
In the slowness and the mismanagement and sort of the
lack of care and attention.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
To some of these areas. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, this administration has shown time and again they
don't they hate the American people, and obviously they come supporters,
and so I won't be surprised if that that's the
motivation behind you. And that's a sad thing to kind
of think about, you know, And that's a that's a
(19:01):
sad thing of kind of like what the nation has
kind of come to. Well, you just gotta look at
a track record when it comes to other things, right,
I mean the Afghanistan with drawl, I mean that that
was a total mess and American citizens were left behind,
American citizens were killed. Ser wars men were killed in that,
and again that was because of just the complete lack
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of direction in a crisis situation from from on the
Biden Harris administration. And so it's it's unfortunate that that
conversation needs to be brought up. And they say, well, actually,
you know, if it hit you know, if if there
was a devastation in some of the more liberal areas
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in North Carolina, and you know, they probably wouldn't they
wouldn't be as up up a river without a paddle
as opposed to now, I think, I think that's just sad.
But I will also say, and that was kind of
what I was saying earlier. This is is much more
difficult than say a disaster response in Florida where thing's flat.
(20:04):
But that but so like, for example, when Biden came
to visit on the last Tuesday, I believe it was
last Tuesday, he was he was promising beforehand, he was
promising that my visit will not interrupt rescue operations, it
will not interrupt supply missions. Like this is just I
(20:25):
just want to go down there see for myself and
not interrupt anything that's going on. That sounded great, but
that's not what happened because because he's the president, there's
there was a no fly zone over in a thirty
mile radius over you know, Asheville, and it didn't it
didn't move too as he was moving because he flew over.
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That's a problem because again, the only way to get things,
especially especially last week, the only way to get things
was by helicopter, and our flight crew was grounded for
two and a half hours. We did a supply mission
out side of the radius, and then we had to
sit for hours, you know, when time is of the essence,
and so it's just like why He's like, yes, it's
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it's important for the leader to be engaged. It's important
for the president to show show that he is looking
after the situation. But even his attempt to do that
just screw it over those people. I mean, it's it's
so ridiculous. So there's there's there's no there's no forethought,
there's no there's no forward planning when it comes to
something as simple as a visit. Right, so when it
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comes to restoring these entire towns from scratch, almost that
they're not they're not the bust and brightest clearly.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, I think it's also just shown for the contrast
in my opinion of like Republican leadership versus Democrat leadership,
because you know, you look at the way that Governor
DeSantis is just like anytime any of these disastrous hit
he is already pre prepared.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
He is all over it, like you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Restoring power and like record time, like rebuilding in record time,
or even you know, you look at the way Donald Trump,
as you mentioned, you know, got a lot of criticism,
but he was all over this stuff. You know, he
was the leader, like we knew he was in charge.
We knew that, you know, the government was gonna respond,
we you know. And then you look at Mary Cooper
Democrat governor. You know a lot of accusations of failure
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in response to this, or you look at off basically
the Biden administration just taking days to be on the
job and to even respond. It's like and then mismanagement
of FEMA money. You know, it's like it's like, it's
just it's such a contrast, in my opinion, between the
way that Republicans lead and the way that Democrats lead.
And then you look at now with as we wait
for Milton. You had references earlier. But Kamala Harris trying
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to say that like she called Governor DeSantis, he like
ignored her call, and somehow he's making it political. And
then you look at Joe Biden's response to his credit
saying that no, actually, you know, the governor Florida has
been cooperative. He's gotten all these neat he's needed. I've
spoken to him. I gave my personal number, Like basically
he's all over it, which you know, I guess sort
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of one speaks to maybe they hated and then you
know too just you know, chaos within the right administration.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, Dempson didn't disarray that that that that rule
is always true. Yeah, no, exactly, And I mean I
I was up at the State Emergency Operations Center up
in Tallahassee for you know, the h before I came
down to Tampa. And look, obviously government is still government.
But you're right, it doesn't matter who's in charge. It
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matters their experience and how they handle the pressures. I
even asked the Santas so just I just said, are
you can't even sleep because of it? Obviously you were
working around the clock with Balen and then afterwards and
then now you got to work around the clock again.
And you know, he seemed, you know, and he's like, yeah,
you just gotta find time. You just gotta find time
(23:55):
for it. But you know where we are, We are
all in emergency mode and that's what the job requires
right now, and that's and we're gonna do that. I mean,
can you? I mean, I mean Biden's been asleep at
the wheel for half of his presidency and the results
have shown that, right. I mean, it's obvious, like we
all know this and we're and we're still kind of
acting like he has a grasp of what he's facing
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on a daily basis. And also obviously it is it
is helpful that with a state like Florida they are
better prepared. But I'll even give you an example when
I covered Hurricane Nadalia last year. That was a pretty
strong storm and it did hit a vastly less populated
area than what Milton is supposed to hit for for
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this week. But even the locals, they would say, yeah,
we you know, ten fifteen years ago, we would be
expecting to be without be without power for two, three
four weeks. And now you know, since the sandis has
been in charge. We can get it back within two
to three days, which is obviously, you know, a big
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difference when it comes to something as simple as power, right, So.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And also like saving lives you know as well of
just you know, saving lives because you know, people die
when they don't have power, especially in this heat. And
you know the rest of it, it comes with it food, but.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Right, And that's why and that's why I'll be with
the ORDA Efficient Wildlife Commission, uh starting tonight and then
as soon as it's safe to go out and try
to you know, make sure everything's you know, okay, and
and when you tell, we're going to be out there
as soon as it's safe to do so, right, And
so that could be I think Milton as of now,
as this recording is supposed to hit around midnight. And
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so the good news is it's it's supposed to be
a pretty fast hurricane, so it shouldn't linger around too
long in the state in general. So that's kind of
a good thing because obviously not only does that mean
that rescue operations can start as soon as possible, but
also the there's less less time for the rain to
accumulate for their inland. But even but even still, I
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mean this, Orlando's supposed to get hit pretty hard by this,
which is stark because I mean Orlando's in the middle
of the state. Usually when storms get there, it's usually
gets down rated pretty heavily to like a tropical storm
or tropical depression. But apparently out with this one.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, I'm Leo, we appreciate. So you're in Tampa right now,
so I mean you're you're in the the midst of it,
and no place I'd rather do right now. We and
I know you've got to go hunker down. Well, we're
praying for you. We appreciate everything you do. You do
such a good job obviously, you know, being there on
(26:45):
the ground and whether it's after the George Floyd riots
or or you know, wherever the chaos is and and
really just giving us the news and letting us know
what's going on. So praying for you and your safety
as well as obviously the rest of our fellow Filoridians.
And thank you for making the time and please be safe.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Absolutely, thank you so much. Happy to talk.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
That was Folio Rosas. He is the national correspondent for
The Blaze. He's also the author of fiery but mostly peaceful.
A marine who served our country, who's still, you know,
running into the chaos to bring us the news and
to let us know what's going on in the ground.
So we appreciate him for joining the show. Appreciate you
guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but
you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank
(27:25):
John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Until next time,