November 11, 2025 • 40 mins
Hubris, the Fatal Flaw
A major theme throughout the hour is the fallout from the recent government shutdown, which lasted 40 days and ended with bipartisan Senate action. Clay and Buck dissect the political consequences, particularly the backlash against Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. They explore Schumer’s declining popularity, citing polling data and commentary from CNN and David Axelrod, and speculate on the possibility of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez challenging him in 2028. The hosts also discuss the broader implications of internal Democratic Party tensions, including potential challenges to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
Incredible Veterans Day Stories
Clay and Buck hear stories from the audience about Veterans. David “Rut” Rutherford, Former Navy SEAL and host of The David Rutherford Show, calls in to share his thoughts on this particular Veterans Day, including the uptick in enlistment under President Trump and Secretary of War Hegseth. The hour also includes a fascinating listener call from a man whose father was reportedly driving the car during General George Patton’s fatal accident, offering a firsthand rebuttal to conspiracy theories surrounding Patton’s death. This leads into a teaser for an upcoming conversation with Bill O’Reilly about the topic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in, Happy and Thankful Veterans Day to so many
people out there. As we begin the Tuesday edition of
the program, President Trump live at Arlington National Cemetery right now,
speaking in honor of so many of the veterans out there.
We have a couple of veterans that are going to
(00:21):
be on the program with us today, David Rutherford, who
is a part of the podcast Network, and Dakota Meyer.
Should be really great stories from those guys.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Dave Brutherford a former Navy seal with combat tours and
Dakota Meyer, a Medal of Honor recipient.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So yeah, Veterans Day. Yeah, kind of kind of badasses.
So we will talk about that quite a lot. We'll
take some of your calls, some of your stories as well.
The shutdown is officially over, Buck to the extent that well,
I say officially over, We've got to have the how
(01:00):
also ratify the fact that the shutdown is over, but
officially the Senate yesterday sixty senators said this is ludicrous,
including eight different Democrats, and the meltdown is pretty fun
to watch. We will dive into that meltdown with all
of you. As Chuck Schumer is now taking fire in
(01:22):
basically every direction, because so many people are asking what
was actually achieved here and what was the decision that
was made. The House is going to vote to lift
the shutdown as well. Buck we had last night, I
was one of the guests at a big fundraiser for
Senator Haggerty, who's going to be re elected to the
(01:44):
Senate next year from Tennessee, and he wasn't able to
attend his own fundraiser because he was back in Washington,
DC getting the government back open on the side of
the Senate. So thanks to the governor of Tennessee for
hosting that fundraising event that we had yesterday, but kind
(02:05):
of giving you a sense of what's going on. Basically,
every Senator had to be all hands on deck to
get to sixty so that they could officially end the shutdown,
including eight Democrats. The House, my understanding, is going to
vote tomorrow to lift the shutdown, and hopefully at that
point in time, some of the chaos that we're seeing
(02:26):
with air traffic control, with TSA, with many different aspects
of the federal government will go to the be tossed
to the side. But again, there is no actual resolution
here that made any sense at all. We had the
longest shutdown in our nation's history forty days, and the
actual impact, Buck was negligible. Nothing changed at all. So
(02:51):
let's go and have some fun. Actually, on this Veteran's Day,
I was scrolling through and our team did a good
job of getting some of the reactions that are pouring
in on the Democrats side, as they are absolutely furious
over Chuck Schumer and the Democrats bending the knee, and
(03:12):
I grabbed several of these. First of all, David Axelrod,
what is the most lasting impact going to be from
the shutdown? Buck? I think it's very likely going to
be that Chuck Schumer is in many ways essentially done
as the minority leader in the Senate, and David Axelrod
said as much, he's likely cooked as the Democrat leader.
(03:35):
This is cut five. You know that. Do you think the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Schumer could be in trouble here with the left flank
of the party.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think he's been in trouble. I think he is
in bigger trouble now. I honestly, I think Cener Schumer's
been there since nineteen eighty two. My guess is that
he won't be leader of the party in two thousand
and twenty seven after the selection. Unless it's something really surprising, you.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Don't buy it, Buck, you think he's gonna be back,
or you just don't think they have anybody else that
wants to step into the fray and actually take the
slings and arrows.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
This is the game, Come on, how many times I'll
put it to you this way. One of the ways
that I think you can often objectively assess the other
side is looking at a similar dynamic on your own side.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
How many years.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Have we all sat around on the right as Republicans
been like Mitch McConnell's rhino, Mitch McConnell's you know, he
doesn't represent, and yet Mitch McConnell's got the checkbook, he's
got the donor network, he's got the power, and everybody
falls in line. Now that is changing, But it's changing
because Mitch is basically not you know, he's non functional
(04:47):
at this point.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's just pure age. He's aging out of that role.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
There's no similar situation to my mind with Schumer. Now,
if Schumer were up in the next year, maybe he
would have Clay. By the time he's up in twenty eight,
everyone's gonna be focused on something else, namely the presidential election,
the future of the party, all this other stuff, and
Schumer's gonna play the on the steady hand.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I know this game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, the president gets to be the next generation
of Democrat leadership. He needs somebody like Chuck Schumer. So
I'm just telling you I don't buy this at all.
But Axelrod is smart insofar as this is what the
left wing of the Democrat base wants to hear right now.
They want to hear that Chuck is going to be
pushed out and blah blah blah. There are a bunch
(05:33):
of data money.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
How quickly we went from the Republicans are going to
have to deal with an immense civil war inside of
their own party. Oh, I don't know last week to
this week being their major issues now on the in
the Democrat side, I think one of the things I'm
gonna play a couple of cuts here from Chuck Schumer
just how unpopular he is. But I think one of
the biggest things we're dealing with, Buck is there's a
(05:57):
profound anger that is out there in America right now.
And I don't know if you buy into this. I
think it's a lingering aftershock of COVID. I think there's
just and I think social media exacerbates it. I think
there's just a lot of angry people. And the question
is it reminds me. I know, you were a lost
(06:18):
viewer back in the day. You know, the smoke monster
just shows up and you want to try to avoid
being the target of the smoke monster. On any given day,
it feels like there's just a shifting cloud of anger.
Or we could go Ghostbusters to the gou when everybody
was getting the gu was just angry. I feel like
that characterizes America today. I like the eye of sour on.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You know, you put that ring on and whatever sour
you know, then you have the eye it all of
a sudden, it's actually not called the eye of sour on.
One of you, Bloord of the rings nerves, is gonna
yell at me for it. But it's you know, it's base.
That's basically what it is. Uh, the the you know,
the big scary fire eye that looks at people. Yes,
I think there's I think there's true to that play.
And remember a lot of this is the game of
(07:02):
making people who are very upset upset at the right
at the right, people, this is what this is where
this so what you want is you want an energized
left wing base going into this mid term. Chuck Schumer
and the old system man, they're gonna have to stand aside.
It's going to be the radicals and the revolutionaries the
Democrat Party who are going to change all these things
for you, and you get them to vote, and then
(07:24):
Chuck Schumer is still in charge. This is the whole game, right,
This is the way they're going to play this. I
think that's also why I've got to say Gavin Newsom,
he sees this too. We've talked about how he's the
likely uh well we we think we're predicting he's a
likely Democrat nominee. He'll play this game. He'll be He'll
be mister, you know, I ran the biggest state in
the country, fifth largest economy in the world, and I'm
(07:45):
so damn handsome. But if he has to have AOC
as his vice president, he'll do that, right, If he
has to bring in the left to make them feel
like they have a seat at the table, and this
is the whole situation, this is the way it's gonna go.
So I don't I don't buy this at all about
how Schumer is Dawn.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He's cooked is.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The term that everyone likes to use for these things. Now,
Schumer is a wiley He's a wiley character. Man. That
guy's been hey, he's been in the game as long
as I've been alive. He's been a senator.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's true. Look, Harry Inton, I will say on CNN
says that Chuck Schumer is the least popular Democrat Senate
leader ever, and then we'll have some fun with him
compared to AOC but cut thirteen. Listen to this on CNN.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What about Democrats nationwide feeling about Chuck Schumer. I think
the word of the day is terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,
to quote another Charles Barkley, when it comes to Chuck Schumer.
Look at this least popular dem Senate leader ever. I
looked at all of the polls going all the way
back since nineteen hundred and eighty five. The one was
the lowest rating among Democrats is in fact Chuck Schumer.
(08:50):
Look at this, He's underwater with Democrats, his own party.
He's underwater. He's at minus four points. That makes him
the least popular guy for a Demson leader going all
the way back since the mid nineteen eighties, at least.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Here's the other part on this, Buck, I do think.
I know we talked about this yesterday, and I got
the year wrong because it's been talked about so much.
I thought that Schumer was up in twenty six, actually
twenty eight. His best benefit, I think is that AOC
may not want to be the Senator. I think she
may well run for president, and it's hard to run
for both. But listen to how much more popular AOC
(09:30):
is in net favorability among New York Democrats. I think
if she announced Buck that she was going to run,
I think Schumer would announce he wasn't going to run,
because I don't think there's any way he could win
a Democrat primary against her. I think it would be
somewhat similar to what we saw happen with Cuomo going
up against Mom Donnie, except AOC would start way more
(09:53):
popular than Cuomo did, and certainly sorry, way more popular
than Mom Donnie. Is cut fourteen, giving you a sense
of just how underwater Schumer is in New York.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
How do New York State democrats feel about Chuck Schumer?
And take a look here the net favorable among New
York Democrats. Chuck Schumer is above water with the Democrats
in his home state, but just by sixteen points. Look
at Alexandria Costukretz running way ahead. If she decides to
challenge Chuck Schumer come twenty twenty eight, she's got a
real leg up on the competition. I dare say at
this point she would be the favorite to beat him,
(10:28):
which would be something that would just blow my mind
even just a few years ago, giving the Chuck Schumer,
of course, is a New York born brand type of guy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, that those are incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Look at thirty points ahead, My goodness, gracious.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So the question Buck, I think is does AOC want
to be in the Senate or not? Because I think
it's going to be hard for Schumer to win a
Democrat primary against someone of the left like AOC.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, see, it would be hard if the election we're now, Clay,
this is an eternity we're talking about here, twenty twenty
eight cycle. Remember it's going to be a presidential election
year we don't even know, and you're talking about AOC
at running agains Schumer. She's going to run for president.
So I don't I think we see that the same
way she's gonna run for president. So he's not going
(11:14):
to have a Democrat, you know, a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Challenge now like her. Now, one thing to keep in mind,
we'll get an early preview of this. There is a
report that Hakeem Jeffries is going to get challenged by
a leftist in the House next year. Hakim Jeffries obviously
the House Minority leader. We have two New York City
guys that are basically running the Democrat Party in the
Congress right now, and so that will give you an
(11:43):
idea about the energy there and whether there's any opportunity
to topple leadership like we already saw Mom Donnie do.
This is one of Mom Donnie's top assistants, a crazy
left wing guy.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
The funny thing about AOC, though, would be and again,
I think she's running for president, and if I were
advising her another way, I like to play the game,
if I were trying to help the other side, how
would you have to think like that?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, and I would.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Say AOC absolutely should run for should run for president
for her own brand. Again, I'm not saying I think
you all know what I'm saying. That would be a
smart brand move for her, but she would also if
she did run against Humor Clay and One, she would
have to go down as the ultimate metaphorical giant killer
(12:29):
here in politics.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean, she would have to be the She would have.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Taken out the number three out of nowhere in congressional
Democrat leadership.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That guy had served like twenty thirty years saw the
semitruck that took him out coming. I do think there's
a story about that one, because if he had really
seen AOC coming, he could have nipped her entire political
tenure in the bud, so to speak. But since then
(12:58):
she's only gained in popular airy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My my big takeaway if there can be one other
than nihilism, and there's no reason to think anything will
work for you in Game of Thrones. You know Game
of Thrones. This is kind of like a nihilistic mass
in a lot of ways. But the thing that I
did take from it is that Hubris. Hubris, if you
think about all the main character arcs, is the fatal
flaw and that guy I can't remember his name now,
(13:23):
who AOC. That tells you something to aos. He ran
against Hubris was his was his. He didn't even think
he had a campaign. That's right, That creates that creates
a vulnerability, doesn't it. But you don't even think you
have to show up. Schumer will know that he's got
a campaign if he gets that challenge from his left.
But I don't believe that. I don't believe that Schumer
is gonna be It's what will he be sent in
(13:45):
leadership again if they have a majority. You know, maybe maybe,
But I think Schumer would win re election if he
really wants to.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The fact that the shutdown has already blown up to
such an extent that the main talking point today is
not any impact that the shutdown had, but will the
chief Senate Democrat be able to keep his job is
illustrative of what a disaster this has ended up being
for the Democrat Party. And we told everyone this. They
(14:13):
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thought at a time. Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton.
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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcast. Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton
Show Veterans Day edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
A lot of different stories. We are following. A bunch
of people went to weigh in variety of different topics
relating to Veterans Day. Let's take some of these calls.
David and Louisiana. We were talking about some of the
things that veterans went through. And you're saying Jonathan Plumb Martin,
who was a famous diarist who fought in the Revolutionary
(16:18):
War with the Condental Army. I have not read it.
I've seen it excerpted quite a lot, because he is
one of the foremost chroniclers of what life was like
for soldiers in those eras. What did you come away
with your biggest impression being, David.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Yeah, I just want to correct something.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
His name was Joseph Plumb Martin and his book is
called A Private Yankee Doodle.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
It is.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
It's pretty easy to get. And I'm I'm a twenty
year veteran, I'm retired Navy, and I wanted to wish
Buck a happy Veterans Day and really enjoy your show.
And before I just wanted to say, what thing the
last time I talked to somebody at this number. It
was the great Rush Limbaugh. So it's a very I'm
(17:07):
very excited to talk to you guys because I think
you are a great It's a great way to keep
on the old Rush show. So thank you very much
for what you guys do well, thank.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You for the call, Thank you for your service. And
yes we're gonna fire producer Greg for leading me over
the middle and writing the wrong person's name down in
the U in the roster there. But it is the
plum Martin. If you watch or read anything relating to
the Revolutionary War, that is a huge part of the discussion.
(17:39):
Are you interested at all, Buck, I believe at debuts
in the next few days in the new ken Burns
Revolutionary War documentary. Have you seen him doing a bunch
of media lately on it. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm actually because I'm reading the Rick Atkinson books right now,
the trilogy he's only two volumes in. I'm somewhat interested
(18:01):
to see what ken Burns puts together. The Civil War
documentary that he did back in the nineties was and
is a work of art, and I know a lot
of people have watched additional ken Burns documentary since he
is of the left. But but I.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The Central Park five documentary, I don't remember that whether
he did that, right not.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean kit Bertley did baseball. He did the Civil War,
which is really really well done. The Civil War documentary
is and it was a PBS huge success story back
in the day. I mean, he's probably the most famous
documentary history historian in the maybe the world, certainly the
United States. Let's see, David and Maryland. You got a
(18:48):
story for us about Veterans Day?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Hi claim buck? Can you hear me?
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We got you, all right.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I got an amazing story.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
To tell you.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I was out in Hawaii for work about fifteen years ago,
and I took good day at the end of my
trip to go see the Pearl Harbor and I went
through all the exhibits, and then I took the ship
over to the Arizona and went inside, and there was
an old gentleman there. It was in the center. If
you've ever been there, there's a center opening. He was
standing next to the center opening, and I couldn't really
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hear him much because it was crowded, But later on
I walked over to listen to him, and it turned
out he was actually on the ship and he was
on the set. He was on the second tallest crow's nests,
and he got blown out and he woke up in
the water, and so I stayed after. I didn't even
get on the ship back because I wanted to talk
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to him. It was so amazing. And he said, you
want to know why I think it blow blew up?
And I said, of course I do. He said, well,
we just put a catapult on about a year before
to send off floatplanes to do some reconnaissance, and we
had to put the chargers.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
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If we'll keep him over, we'll bring him. That's one
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who was telling us a really interesting story? Did he
stay through with us? Yes, David, and Maryland is still there,
all right, David, So so you can go now we
have some time. It is veterans.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Dan, you were telling a story we all wanted to hear.
So you can just give us a little a quick recap.
Tell us where you are, set the scene because some
listeners will have rejoined us, and we'll let you take
this thing all the way.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Go for it, okay. Sure. So I was the gentleman.
I was talking to the gentleman after the ship left
and now we were the only two in there, and
he said, you know, I want to know why I
think the ship blew up like it did was because
we had just put about nine months before we put
a catapult on and we used to we would send
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off floatplanes with special charges to go out to do reconnaissance.
And he said that the powder they use for that
was very volatile. We had no place to stor it
except in the magazine, so we set it around the
inside of the charges for the regular guns, which wasn't
as volatile, and he thought that was He thought that
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would contributed to the explosion. And then and then it
actually gets better because while we're standing there, just the
two of us, the next ship came up to drop
people off, and here comes everybody up and the very
last group coming up where it was an older gentleman
with two women on either side, women on either side
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of them helping him up the grant and up the
guy came and he turned and it was a Japanese guy,
and he had an interpreter there, and he said he
was on one of the planes that had dropped the
bombs on Pearl Harbor. And the two just looked at
each other and saluted each other, and there wasn't a
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dry eye in the place. It was unbelievable. He said
he'd always wanted to be there. This was the first
time he could go Wow, Harbor.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Well, thank you for calling in and sharing that story
on Veterans Day. Buck. Have you ever been to Pearl Harbor?
Have not? No, have not been. I have never been either.
I would like to go. Let me give a super
endorsement here the World War Two Museum in New Orleans
into that one of amazing, incredible. It's an incredible spot.
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And the reason why it comes to mind here is
they put veterans. Veterans would come and stand in the
main lobby that fought in World War Two for years
and years, veterans from the New Orleans area, veterans traveling
and tell their stories to people who came to tour
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the World War Two memorial. And there are so few
World War Two veterans left among us now that I
am so grateful that they have done a phenomenal job
of chronicling so many of those stories so they aren't
lost to history. With just so many interviews that have
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been done with so many of our brave World War
Two veterans. And if you get the opportunity, you go
to New Orleans. I know it's a huge tourist town.
I know everybody gets out on Bourbon Street and gets
hurricanes and and has a phenomenal time in that city.
Please take the time to go to the World War
Two Museum. Take your kids. The last time I was
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in New Orleans was the Super Bowl last year, and
or I guess early this year. I was really impressed
at the number of kids that were in town to
go to the game. Kind of a cool thing to
get to do as a kid, but that mom and
dad were taking them to as part of being down
in town for that game, that they were taking them
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also to the Super Bowl. A lot of Chiefs, a
lot of Eagle fan bases. But when I was there,
the number of kids that I saw was very impressive.
So if you get the opportunity to go tour that museum,
I can't recommend it any higher at all. It truly
is extraordinary. Let's see Dan and Prescott Arizona said you
(24:51):
got to have a lunch with General Omar Bradley. How
did that happen?
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Well, in seventy eight, our unit at Fort Bliss, which
is where General Bradley was stationed or retired. Our unit
was best on post and I was fortunate enough to
be best on post also, and General Bradley came and
(25:21):
visited our unit, and I was selected to have lunch
with him, and the two star general that pushed him
around instructed me that I could ask him anything except
his view on how General Patten died. And he was
(25:46):
very accommodating, He was very nice, he was still in uniform,
still a wonderful gentleman. But I did not ask him
how General Patton died, and I always wanted to. He
autographed his book for me, and I've seen several documentaries
(26:06):
on it, but never quite satisfied with with the answer.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well, thank you for the patent. Died in a car accident, right, Well,
I'm assuming there must be a conspiracy theory associated with that.
I did not know that, But yes, I didn't know that.
I didn't know there was anything. What there is there
a conspiracy that? Why would Omar Bradley, I not General Bradley,
have not been wanted you answer asking that question? Do
(26:31):
you have any idea?
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Yes, after reading several books, the accident was such a
small accident. Nobody else was injured. There were just a
lot of things that don't add up. You could you
could ask Bill O'Reilly, he wrote Killing Patten, And if.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
We will ask Bill O'Reilly, he scheduled to be on
in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So first we got Uncle Bill Thursday, so we'll mark
this one down for him. What, Yeah, we'll ask him
about this. Is there anything specific that you wanted us
to dive into with Uncle Bill?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I said, just the specifics around his view on how
Paton gotcha.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Sure. Sure, that's a good tease for Sharon, who's on
the road right now, and she says, Bill O'Reilly's going
to be on with us Thursday. You just listen to
one of his books out there. By the way, you
should book Buck. I bought your book, so I have
spent the money for Buck's new book, which will be
out in February, which will arrive, I believe, at my
(27:37):
house on publication day. You should also go buy balls.
Especially if people don't have balls in your life, maybe
they can get it through the through the book. But Sharon,
you just read Bill O'Reilly's got a hugely successful series
on history, and you just read one of them.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Yes, I just drove from with Montana and I'm heading
home to Indianapolis. I'm in Illinois right now, but I
spent two days on I ninety listening to Killing England
and it was fantastic. I mean, I've read other of
his books, Killing Witches, and I can't remember anything else
(28:18):
right now, but anyway, it was a fantastic book. And
when you mentioned Valley Forge, I had to call in
because it was just insane. These guys didn't even have shoes.
They had to tie rags to their feet, and the
British would track them through the snow because of the
blood that they left behind.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's unbelievable, it really is. I mean, again, having just read,
thank you for the call, Sharon, stay safe on the
road as you travel back to Indianapolis. Having just read
about Valley Ford. But nobody had shoes. I mean, think
about how cold it is wherever you are, and imagine
(28:58):
walking around in those rags and dealing clay.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's it's honestly, you know, this is kind of this
is hitting home for you today.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
In South Florida. It's fifty degrees here, my friend. I mean,
it is just like this is this opar falling apart
in Florida, right, You got Iguana's falling out of the trees.
You got everyone walking around in ski parka is because
the only clothing they have that's warm that's cold weather
is when they go skiing. It's it's pandemonium out here
in the fifties. My friend so Valley Forge, no shoes.
(29:29):
I know what it was like. I know what it
was like for those guys. I'm walking around here. I
have to put socks on in my sandals. Down here
in Miami. It's madness, it is. It is Miami's version
of Valley Forge. People think I'm joking about that. But
the iguanas freeze in the trees and fall out iguana
popsicles when it gets cold there.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
They're not dead, they're just they their heartbeat slows down
so much or their system slows down so much that
they essentially pass out and they fall out of trees.
And by the way, they are pretty big.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
If you can get image or killed by an iguana
falling out of the tree, that'd be a tough way
to get that's ever happened.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But I just could tell you when you see one
and it's lying there and it's all because this happens.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
They're they're considerable.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
They will whip you with their tail too, so when
they wake up, you don't want to be And they
have a little sharp teeth This is.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Why it's all amazing that they just go to like
they just freeze like that and and truly fall out
of the trees and for.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, you know, they're they were they're escaped pets.
They're an invasive speci Oh yeah, here in South Florida.
They are absolutely not native. They came from South America.
They are not native to Miami. But man, have they
taken to this habitat. And unfortunately they're really rough on
foundations for buildings. They burrow and they dig, so they
can be a pest. They can be dangerous to building structures,
(30:50):
sort of like the boa constrictors and pythons that they
have here now, also pets that were released, the pets
that I like, though, we have parrots that have been
released and the parts are fun, they're nice. They're not
native either. There are very few of these species that
people associate with. Alligators and crocodiles. The only place in
the world where they coexist in the same ecosystem is here,
(31:11):
and they are native to South Florida. Manates obviously there,
you know. And then the sharks, which we've talked about
a lot, but a lot of the things you think
of as Florida animals.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
They're pets that people brought here. Bruce in Hastings, Minnesota,
you got to call for us about the World War
Two museum.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
I just hopped in my truck, turned it on, heard
you guys talking about that, and just to let you know,
they are still collecting stories. They my dad's World War
two bet he turns one hundred on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh, that's awesome. Congratulate him for us. Sorry to cut
you off, but congratulate him for one hundred on us.
And so they're still collecting the stories.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
Yeah, he was shot down over Tokyo in the b
twenty nine and Pow in Japan for the last several
months of the war.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
So they're still collecting stories.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
It's on my bucket list to get down there and
see the place myself.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
So who fuck it?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Thank you so much, graud By. Wait real quick, Bruce,
any tips? I mean, when it's fifty degrees in Minnesota,
you guys, do you sleep shirtless outside on your lawn
like because that doesn't bother you at all? Right, that's
like a ball me day in Minnesota pretty much.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I was up at my cabin this weekend.
Speaker 12 (32:23):
It was about nineteen and I was sweating, so you know,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, he admit, man, he's been at Minnesota. People they
would out, they would outlast us. Florida people are sawny
that you.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You as a New Yorker, you dealt with cold winners
quite a lot because New York City, the wind is
brutal through so many of those buildings and everything else.
You're now down in Miami. When we were in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
we stepped off the plane. It was a little chili
in Fort Wayne. You were ready to just head straight
back to Miami. You're like, it's fifty four degrees. I
(32:53):
don't know a lot of people living. I wanted to
light a little a little fire and and just keep
my hands, you know, over it outside because it was
so cold in Indiana. I think it was in like
the high fifties. I don't know how you guys deal
with this stuff. It's really really tough. So you know,
we're working on it. Though we're working on it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, take some more called Clayton, who uh did you
have if your grandparents generation military service on that side.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, And my uncle is actually eighty four. He's dealing
right now with cancer I'm glad you mentioned this. He
listens and tries to watch as he can. But he
was in Vietnam and so and worked on While in Vietnam,
(33:37):
he was in charge of helicopter maintenance repair and one
of the crazy things. I think I mentioned this before
on the show, but one way they ensured that everybody
who would build the helicopters was as steadfast in their
in their rehabilitation and then their fixing of the helicopters
was every time they fixed one, they had to be
the first guys to go up in it. So for
(33:59):
anybody that has been in a helicopter, they would bring
him in, say hey they need maintenance, they need to
be fixed, and then you go right up in it.
So the way that you knew that you were working
on it and making sure that it was as good
as anybody could be. So he flew all over Vietnam
my helicopters.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
My mother's father, so my maternal grandfather who's passed away
years ago, but he was an officer on the USS Batan,
which is one of those converted converted aircraft carriers. It
was essentially they did this quick fix to these ships
to make them into I think they're called cr not CRVS.
(34:38):
I forget there's some designation for them.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
But yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
He initially was a pilot and did some did some
training pilot training. But I just remember reading about how
I think we lost was it fifteen thousand or thirty
thousand people to flight accidents in the Pacific theater, not
shot down.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Never found them, just.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
The plane crashed in the ocean, and that was that
going between theaters of conflict now, you know, like transport essentially.
I think it was something like either fifteen or thirty thousand,
some astonishing with training accidents and astonishing the high number.
So yeah, there's a lot of a lot of ways
that people are taking risks when they serve. All right,
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Veterans Day, I want to say thank you to all
of the veterans across America. We cruly thank you from
the bottom of our hearts. Thank you for your service.
We have so many of you who listened to this show.
It is a great honor that you spend your time
with us and that you trust us to speak honestly
about issues, including of war and peace and national security.
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in with their own stories of family service. Just there's
so many of them. We wish you get them all.
Here you go VIP email from Jessica. My grandfather was
one of the cormen that pulled the former President Bush
out of the water when his plane went down. He
served on nine different ships. William Hersey of New Hampshire.
(37:59):
So very cool. We're getting so many of these, Syracuse.
This is talkback, d D play this one claim Buck.
Speaker 11 (38:12):
Before it was Veterans Day, it was Armis's Day, and
my great great aunt was the one that carried the
flag through Paris when the surrender happened at the end
of World War One.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Very cool. I should mention we were talking about Patten,
my great uncle. So my grandmother's brothers they served and
Patton once stopped in front of him Buck and asked
if he had gotten to kill any Germans yet, And
when he said no, he was a young guy who
had just gotten overseas into Europe. He said, you're gonna
get your chance, which he loved telling that story. And
(38:51):
that is a pretty cool story. Let's see, Margaret. Let's
go Teresa and san Antonio fire away to give.
Speaker 13 (39:00):
A shout out and a thank you to the veteran
who called in and with the story about Omar Bradley
at Fort Bliss. And I'm wondering if he ever met
my dad. I grew up around Fort Bliss because my
dad was a retired Air Force colonel and then moved
to El Paso. We were at Fort Bliff all the time,
and my dad became friends with General Bradley. And I
(39:20):
was a little girl, but I would go to lunch
with him because during the summer my dad would take
me to the pool. We'd meet General Bradley at the
Officers Club, eat lunch, and then I'd go swimming with
my dad. And I wish I had understood then who
he was, but I remember my dad talking to him.
General Bradley was so sweet to me. He would hold
(39:41):
my hand. I could still picture him in his wheelchair
and he would hold my hand and talk to me
and ask me questions about school. And if I'd only known,
you know what questions to ask him. But I heard
the gentleman call in that he had had lunch with
him at Fort Bliss. I wonder if he ever knew
my dad. But it was seizing a experience my dad
(40:01):
ended up getting close to it.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Thank you, Thank you for that story, so many amazing stories.
Thank you to all the veterans.
Speaker 13 (40:07):
Will
Welcome in, Happy and Thankful Veterans Day to so many
people out there. As we begin the Tuesday edition of
the program, President Trump live at Arlington National Cemetery right now,
speaking in honor of so many of the veterans out there.
We have a couple of veterans that are going to
(00:21):
be on the program with us today, David Rutherford, who
is a part of the podcast Network, and Dakota Meyer.
Should be really great stories from those guys.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Dave Brutherford a former Navy seal with combat tours and
Dakota Meyer, a Medal of Honor recipient.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So yeah, Veterans Day. Yeah, kind of kind of badasses.
So we will talk about that quite a lot. We'll
take some of your calls, some of your stories as well.
The shutdown is officially over, Buck to the extent that well,
I say officially over, We've got to have the how
(01:00):
also ratify the fact that the shutdown is over, but
officially the Senate yesterday sixty senators said this is ludicrous,
including eight different Democrats, and the meltdown is pretty fun
to watch. We will dive into that meltdown with all
of you. As Chuck Schumer is now taking fire in
(01:22):
basically every direction, because so many people are asking what
was actually achieved here and what was the decision that
was made. The House is going to vote to lift
the shutdown as well. Buck we had last night, I
was one of the guests at a big fundraiser for
Senator Haggerty, who's going to be re elected to the
(01:44):
Senate next year from Tennessee, and he wasn't able to
attend his own fundraiser because he was back in Washington,
DC getting the government back open on the side of
the Senate. So thanks to the governor of Tennessee for
hosting that fundraising event that we had yesterday, but kind
(02:05):
of giving you a sense of what's going on. Basically,
every Senator had to be all hands on deck to
get to sixty so that they could officially end the shutdown,
including eight Democrats. The House, my understanding, is going to
vote tomorrow to lift the shutdown, and hopefully at that
point in time, some of the chaos that we're seeing
(02:26):
with air traffic control, with TSA, with many different aspects
of the federal government will go to the be tossed
to the side. But again, there is no actual resolution
here that made any sense at all. We had the
longest shutdown in our nation's history forty days, and the
actual impact, Buck was negligible. Nothing changed at all. So
(02:51):
let's go and have some fun. Actually, on this Veteran's Day,
I was scrolling through and our team did a good
job of getting some of the reactions that are pouring
in on the Democrats side, as they are absolutely furious
over Chuck Schumer and the Democrats bending the knee, and
(03:12):
I grabbed several of these. First of all, David Axelrod,
what is the most lasting impact going to be from
the shutdown? Buck? I think it's very likely going to
be that Chuck Schumer is in many ways essentially done
as the minority leader in the Senate, and David Axelrod
said as much, he's likely cooked as the Democrat leader.
(03:35):
This is cut five. You know that. Do you think the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Schumer could be in trouble here with the left flank
of the party.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think he's been in trouble. I think he is
in bigger trouble now. I honestly, I think Cener Schumer's
been there since nineteen eighty two. My guess is that
he won't be leader of the party in two thousand
and twenty seven after the selection. Unless it's something really surprising, you.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Don't buy it, Buck, you think he's gonna be back,
or you just don't think they have anybody else that
wants to step into the fray and actually take the
slings and arrows.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
This is the game, Come on, how many times I'll
put it to you this way. One of the ways
that I think you can often objectively assess the other
side is looking at a similar dynamic on your own side.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
How many years.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Have we all sat around on the right as Republicans
been like Mitch McConnell's rhino, Mitch McConnell's you know, he
doesn't represent, and yet Mitch McConnell's got the checkbook, he's
got the donor network, he's got the power, and everybody
falls in line. Now that is changing, But it's changing
because Mitch is basically not you know, he's non functional
(04:47):
at this point.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's just pure age. He's aging out of that role.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
There's no similar situation to my mind with Schumer. Now,
if Schumer were up in the next year, maybe he
would have Clay. By the time he's up in twenty eight,
everyone's gonna be focused on something else, namely the presidential election,
the future of the party, all this other stuff, and
Schumer's gonna play the on the steady hand.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I know this game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, the president gets to be the next generation
of Democrat leadership. He needs somebody like Chuck Schumer. So
I'm just telling you I don't buy this at all.
But Axelrod is smart insofar as this is what the
left wing of the Democrat base wants to hear right now.
They want to hear that Chuck is going to be
pushed out and blah blah blah. There are a bunch
(05:33):
of data money.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
How quickly we went from the Republicans are going to
have to deal with an immense civil war inside of
their own party. Oh, I don't know last week to
this week being their major issues now on the in
the Democrat side, I think one of the things I'm
gonna play a couple of cuts here from Chuck Schumer
just how unpopular he is. But I think one of
the biggest things we're dealing with, Buck is there's a
(05:57):
profound anger that is out there in America right now.
And I don't know if you buy into this. I
think it's a lingering aftershock of COVID. I think there's
just and I think social media exacerbates it. I think
there's just a lot of angry people. And the question
is it reminds me. I know, you were a lost
(06:18):
viewer back in the day. You know, the smoke monster
just shows up and you want to try to avoid
being the target of the smoke monster. On any given day,
it feels like there's just a shifting cloud of anger.
Or we could go Ghostbusters to the gou when everybody
was getting the gu was just angry. I feel like
that characterizes America today. I like the eye of sour on.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You know, you put that ring on and whatever sour
you know, then you have the eye it all of
a sudden, it's actually not called the eye of sour on.
One of you, Bloord of the rings nerves, is gonna
yell at me for it. But it's you know, it's base.
That's basically what it is. Uh, the the you know,
the big scary fire eye that looks at people. Yes,
I think there's I think there's true to that play.
And remember a lot of this is the game of
(07:02):
making people who are very upset upset at the right
at the right, people, this is what this is where
this so what you want is you want an energized
left wing base going into this mid term. Chuck Schumer
and the old system man, they're gonna have to stand aside.
It's going to be the radicals and the revolutionaries the
Democrat Party who are going to change all these things
for you, and you get them to vote, and then
(07:24):
Chuck Schumer is still in charge. This is the whole game, right,
This is the way they're going to play this. I
think that's also why I've got to say Gavin Newsom,
he sees this too. We've talked about how he's the
likely uh well we we think we're predicting he's a
likely Democrat nominee. He'll play this game. He'll be He'll
be mister, you know, I ran the biggest state in
the country, fifth largest economy in the world, and I'm
(07:45):
so damn handsome. But if he has to have AOC
as his vice president, he'll do that, right, If he
has to bring in the left to make them feel
like they have a seat at the table, and this
is the whole situation, this is the way it's gonna go.
So I don't I don't buy this at all about
how Schumer is Dawn.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He's cooked is.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The term that everyone likes to use for these things. Now,
Schumer is a wiley He's a wiley character. Man. That
guy's been hey, he's been in the game as long
as I've been alive. He's been a senator.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's true. Look, Harry Inton, I will say on CNN
says that Chuck Schumer is the least popular Democrat Senate
leader ever, and then we'll have some fun with him
compared to AOC but cut thirteen. Listen to this on CNN.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What about Democrats nationwide feeling about Chuck Schumer. I think
the word of the day is terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,
to quote another Charles Barkley, when it comes to Chuck Schumer.
Look at this least popular dem Senate leader ever. I
looked at all of the polls going all the way
back since nineteen hundred and eighty five. The one was
the lowest rating among Democrats is in fact Chuck Schumer.
(08:50):
Look at this, He's underwater with Democrats, his own party.
He's underwater. He's at minus four points. That makes him
the least popular guy for a Demson leader going all
the way back since the mid nineteen eighties, at least.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Here's the other part on this, Buck, I do think.
I know we talked about this yesterday, and I got
the year wrong because it's been talked about so much.
I thought that Schumer was up in twenty six, actually
twenty eight. His best benefit, I think is that AOC
may not want to be the Senator. I think she
may well run for president, and it's hard to run
for both. But listen to how much more popular AOC
(09:30):
is in net favorability among New York Democrats. I think
if she announced Buck that she was going to run,
I think Schumer would announce he wasn't going to run,
because I don't think there's any way he could win
a Democrat primary against her. I think it would be
somewhat similar to what we saw happen with Cuomo going
up against Mom Donnie, except AOC would start way more
(09:53):
popular than Cuomo did, and certainly sorry, way more popular
than Mom Donnie. Is cut fourteen, giving you a sense
of just how underwater Schumer is in New York.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
How do New York State democrats feel about Chuck Schumer?
And take a look here the net favorable among New
York Democrats. Chuck Schumer is above water with the Democrats
in his home state, but just by sixteen points. Look
at Alexandria Costukretz running way ahead. If she decides to
challenge Chuck Schumer come twenty twenty eight, she's got a
real leg up on the competition. I dare say at
this point she would be the favorite to beat him,
(10:28):
which would be something that would just blow my mind
even just a few years ago, giving the Chuck Schumer,
of course, is a New York born brand type of guy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, that those are incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Look at thirty points ahead, My goodness, gracious.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So the question Buck, I think is does AOC want
to be in the Senate or not? Because I think
it's going to be hard for Schumer to win a
Democrat primary against someone of the left like AOC.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, see, it would be hard if the election we're now, Clay,
this is an eternity we're talking about here, twenty twenty
eight cycle. Remember it's going to be a presidential election
year we don't even know, and you're talking about AOC
at running agains Schumer. She's going to run for president.
So I don't I think we see that the same
way she's gonna run for president. So he's not going
(11:14):
to have a Democrat, you know, a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Challenge now like her. Now, one thing to keep in mind,
we'll get an early preview of this. There is a
report that Hakeem Jeffries is going to get challenged by
a leftist in the House next year. Hakim Jeffries obviously
the House Minority leader. We have two New York City
guys that are basically running the Democrat Party in the
Congress right now, and so that will give you an
(11:43):
idea about the energy there and whether there's any opportunity
to topple leadership like we already saw Mom Donnie do.
This is one of Mom Donnie's top assistants, a crazy
left wing guy.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
The funny thing about AOC, though, would be and again,
I think she's running for president, and if I were
advising her another way, I like to play the game,
if I were trying to help the other side, how
would you have to think like that?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, and I would.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Say AOC absolutely should run for should run for president
for her own brand. Again, I'm not saying I think
you all know what I'm saying. That would be a
smart brand move for her, but she would also if
she did run against Humor Clay and One, she would
have to go down as the ultimate metaphorical giant killer
(12:29):
here in politics.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean, she would have to be the She would have.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Taken out the number three out of nowhere in congressional
Democrat leadership.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That guy had served like twenty thirty years saw the
semitruck that took him out coming. I do think there's
a story about that one, because if he had really
seen AOC coming, he could have nipped her entire political
tenure in the bud, so to speak. But since then
(12:58):
she's only gained in popular airy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My my big takeaway if there can be one other
than nihilism, and there's no reason to think anything will
work for you in Game of Thrones. You know Game
of Thrones. This is kind of like a nihilistic mass
in a lot of ways. But the thing that I
did take from it is that Hubris. Hubris, if you
think about all the main character arcs, is the fatal
flaw and that guy I can't remember his name now,
(13:23):
who AOC. That tells you something to aos. He ran
against Hubris was his was his. He didn't even think
he had a campaign. That's right, That creates that creates
a vulnerability, doesn't it. But you don't even think you
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Speaker 7 (15:45):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcast. Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton
Show Veterans Day edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
A lot of different stories. We are following. A bunch
of people went to weigh in variety of different topics
relating to Veterans Day. Let's take some of these calls.
David and Louisiana. We were talking about some of the
things that veterans went through. And you're saying Jonathan Plumb Martin,
who was a famous diarist who fought in the Revolutionary
(16:18):
War with the Condental Army. I have not read it.
I've seen it excerpted quite a lot, because he is
one of the foremost chroniclers of what life was like
for soldiers in those eras. What did you come away
with your biggest impression being, David.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Yeah, I just want to correct something.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
His name was Joseph Plumb Martin and his book is
called A Private Yankee Doodle.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
It is.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
It's pretty easy to get. And I'm I'm a twenty
year veteran, I'm retired Navy, and I wanted to wish
Buck a happy Veterans Day and really enjoy your show.
And before I just wanted to say, what thing the
last time I talked to somebody at this number. It
was the great Rush Limbaugh. So it's a very I'm
(17:07):
very excited to talk to you guys because I think
you are a great It's a great way to keep
on the old Rush show. So thank you very much
for what you guys do well, thank.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You for the call, Thank you for your service. And
yes we're gonna fire producer Greg for leading me over
the middle and writing the wrong person's name down in
the U in the roster there. But it is the
plum Martin. If you watch or read anything relating to
the Revolutionary War, that is a huge part of the discussion.
(17:39):
Are you interested at all, Buck, I believe at debuts
in the next few days in the new ken Burns
Revolutionary War documentary. Have you seen him doing a bunch
of media lately on it. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm actually because I'm reading the Rick Atkinson books right now,
the trilogy he's only two volumes in. I'm somewhat interested
(18:01):
to see what ken Burns puts together. The Civil War
documentary that he did back in the nineties was and
is a work of art, and I know a lot
of people have watched additional ken Burns documentary since he
is of the left. But but I.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The Central Park five documentary, I don't remember that whether
he did that, right not.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean kit Bertley did baseball. He did the Civil War,
which is really really well done. The Civil War documentary
is and it was a PBS huge success story back
in the day. I mean, he's probably the most famous
documentary history historian in the maybe the world, certainly the
United States. Let's see, David and Maryland. You got a
(18:48):
story for us about Veterans Day?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Hi claim buck? Can you hear me?
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We got you, all right.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I got an amazing story.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
To tell you.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I was out in Hawaii for work about fifteen years ago,
and I took good day at the end of my
trip to go see the Pearl Harbor and I went
through all the exhibits, and then I took the ship
over to the Arizona and went inside, and there was
an old gentleman there. It was in the center. If
you've ever been there, there's a center opening. He was
standing next to the center opening, and I couldn't really
(19:22):
hear him much because it was crowded, But later on
I walked over to listen to him, and it turned
out he was actually on the ship and he was
on the set. He was on the second tallest crow's nests,
and he got blown out and he woke up in
the water, and so I stayed after. I didn't even
get on the ship back because I wanted to talk
(19:43):
to him. It was so amazing. And he said, you
want to know why I think it blow blew up?
And I said, of course I do. He said, well,
we just put a catapult on about a year before
to send off floatplanes to do some reconnaissance, and we
had to put the chargers.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Stick stick with us because we've got a hard out here.
If we'll keep him over, we'll bring him. That's one
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to Clay and Buck. Do we still have that caller
who was telling us a really interesting story? Did he
stay through with us? Yes, David, and Maryland is still there,
all right, David, So so you can go now we
have some time. It is veterans.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Dan, you were telling a story we all wanted to hear.
So you can just give us a little a quick recap.
Tell us where you are, set the scene because some
listeners will have rejoined us, and we'll let you take
this thing all the way.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Go for it, okay. Sure. So I was the gentleman.
I was talking to the gentleman after the ship left
and now we were the only two in there, and
he said, you know, I want to know why I
think the ship blew up like it did was because
we had just put about nine months before we put
a catapult on and we used to we would send
(21:33):
off floatplanes with special charges to go out to do reconnaissance.
And he said that the powder they use for that
was very volatile. We had no place to stor it
except in the magazine, so we set it around the
inside of the charges for the regular guns, which wasn't
as volatile, and he thought that was He thought that
(21:55):
would contributed to the explosion. And then and then it
actually gets better because while we're standing there, just the
two of us, the next ship came up to drop
people off, and here comes everybody up and the very
last group coming up where it was an older gentleman
with two women on either side, women on either side
(22:15):
of them helping him up the grant and up the
guy came and he turned and it was a Japanese guy,
and he had an interpreter there, and he said he
was on one of the planes that had dropped the
bombs on Pearl Harbor. And the two just looked at
each other and saluted each other, and there wasn't a
(22:35):
dry eye in the place. It was unbelievable. He said
he'd always wanted to be there. This was the first
time he could go Wow, Harbor.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Well, thank you for calling in and sharing that story
on Veterans Day. Buck. Have you ever been to Pearl Harbor?
Have not? No, have not been. I have never been either.
I would like to go. Let me give a super
endorsement here the World War Two Museum in New Orleans
into that one of amazing, incredible. It's an incredible spot.
(23:03):
And the reason why it comes to mind here is
they put veterans. Veterans would come and stand in the
main lobby that fought in World War Two for years
and years, veterans from the New Orleans area, veterans traveling
and tell their stories to people who came to tour
(23:25):
the World War Two memorial. And there are so few
World War Two veterans left among us now that I
am so grateful that they have done a phenomenal job
of chronicling so many of those stories so they aren't
lost to history. With just so many interviews that have
(23:46):
been done with so many of our brave World War
Two veterans. And if you get the opportunity, you go
to New Orleans. I know it's a huge tourist town.
I know everybody gets out on Bourbon Street and gets
hurricanes and and has a phenomenal time in that city.
Please take the time to go to the World War
Two Museum. Take your kids. The last time I was
(24:08):
in New Orleans was the Super Bowl last year, and
or I guess early this year. I was really impressed
at the number of kids that were in town to
go to the game. Kind of a cool thing to
get to do as a kid, but that mom and
dad were taking them to as part of being down
in town for that game, that they were taking them
(24:29):
also to the Super Bowl. A lot of Chiefs, a
lot of Eagle fan bases. But when I was there,
the number of kids that I saw was very impressive.
So if you get the opportunity to go tour that museum,
I can't recommend it any higher at all. It truly
is extraordinary. Let's see Dan and Prescott Arizona said you
(24:51):
got to have a lunch with General Omar Bradley. How
did that happen?
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Well, in seventy eight, our unit at Fort Bliss, which
is where General Bradley was stationed or retired. Our unit
was best on post and I was fortunate enough to
be best on post also, and General Bradley came and
(25:21):
visited our unit, and I was selected to have lunch
with him, and the two star general that pushed him
around instructed me that I could ask him anything except
his view on how General Patten died. And he was
(25:46):
very accommodating, He was very nice, he was still in uniform,
still a wonderful gentleman. But I did not ask him
how General Patton died, and I always wanted to. He
autographed his book for me, and I've seen several documentaries
(26:06):
on it, but never quite satisfied with with the answer.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well, thank you for the patent. Died in a car accident, right, Well,
I'm assuming there must be a conspiracy theory associated with that.
I did not know that, But yes, I didn't know that.
I didn't know there was anything. What there is there
a conspiracy that? Why would Omar Bradley, I not General Bradley,
have not been wanted you answer asking that question? Do
(26:31):
you have any idea?
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Yes, after reading several books, the accident was such a
small accident. Nobody else was injured. There were just a
lot of things that don't add up. You could you
could ask Bill O'Reilly, he wrote Killing Patten, And if.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
We will ask Bill O'Reilly, he scheduled to be on
in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So first we got Uncle Bill Thursday, so we'll mark
this one down for him. What, Yeah, we'll ask him
about this. Is there anything specific that you wanted us
to dive into with Uncle Bill?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I said, just the specifics around his view on how
Paton gotcha.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Sure. Sure, that's a good tease for Sharon, who's on
the road right now, and she says, Bill O'Reilly's going
to be on with us Thursday. You just listen to
one of his books out there. By the way, you
should book Buck. I bought your book, so I have
spent the money for Buck's new book, which will be
out in February, which will arrive, I believe, at my
(27:37):
house on publication day. You should also go buy balls.
Especially if people don't have balls in your life, maybe
they can get it through the through the book. But Sharon,
you just read Bill O'Reilly's got a hugely successful series
on history, and you just read one of them.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Yes, I just drove from with Montana and I'm heading
home to Indianapolis. I'm in Illinois right now, but I
spent two days on I ninety listening to Killing England
and it was fantastic. I mean, I've read other of
his books, Killing Witches, and I can't remember anything else
(28:18):
right now, but anyway, it was a fantastic book. And
when you mentioned Valley Forge, I had to call in
because it was just insane. These guys didn't even have shoes.
They had to tie rags to their feet, and the
British would track them through the snow because of the
blood that they left behind.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's unbelievable, it really is. I mean, again, having just read,
thank you for the call, Sharon, stay safe on the
road as you travel back to Indianapolis. Having just read
about Valley Ford. But nobody had shoes. I mean, think
about how cold it is wherever you are, and imagine
(28:58):
walking around in those rags and dealing clay.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's it's honestly, you know, this is kind of this
is hitting home for you today.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
In South Florida. It's fifty degrees here, my friend. I mean,
it is just like this is this opar falling apart
in Florida, right, You got Iguana's falling out of the trees.
You got everyone walking around in ski parka is because
the only clothing they have that's warm that's cold weather
is when they go skiing. It's it's pandemonium out here
in the fifties. My friend so Valley Forge, no shoes.
(29:29):
I know what it was like. I know what it
was like for those guys. I'm walking around here. I
have to put socks on in my sandals. Down here
in Miami. It's madness, it is. It is Miami's version
of Valley Forge. People think I'm joking about that. But
the iguanas freeze in the trees and fall out iguana
popsicles when it gets cold there.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
They're not dead, they're just they their heartbeat slows down
so much or their system slows down so much that
they essentially pass out and they fall out of trees.
And by the way, they are pretty big.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
If you can get image or killed by an iguana
falling out of the tree, that'd be a tough way
to get that's ever happened.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But I just could tell you when you see one
and it's lying there and it's all because this happens.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
They're they're considerable.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
They will whip you with their tail too, so when
they wake up, you don't want to be And they
have a little sharp teeth This is.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Why it's all amazing that they just go to like
they just freeze like that and and truly fall out
of the trees and for.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, you know, they're they were they're escaped pets.
They're an invasive speci Oh yeah, here in South Florida.
They are absolutely not native. They came from South America.
They are not native to Miami. But man, have they
taken to this habitat. And unfortunately they're really rough on
foundations for buildings. They burrow and they dig, so they
can be a pest. They can be dangerous to building structures,
(30:50):
sort of like the boa constrictors and pythons that they
have here now, also pets that were released, the pets
that I like, though, we have parrots that have been
released and the parts are fun, they're nice. They're not
native either. There are very few of these species that
people associate with. Alligators and crocodiles. The only place in
the world where they coexist in the same ecosystem is here,
(31:11):
and they are native to South Florida. Manates obviously there,
you know. And then the sharks, which we've talked about
a lot, but a lot of the things you think
of as Florida animals.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
They're pets that people brought here. Bruce in Hastings, Minnesota,
you got to call for us about the World War
Two museum.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
I just hopped in my truck, turned it on, heard
you guys talking about that, and just to let you know,
they are still collecting stories. They my dad's World War
two bet he turns one hundred on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh, that's awesome. Congratulate him for us. Sorry to cut
you off, but congratulate him for one hundred on us.
And so they're still collecting the stories.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
Yeah, he was shot down over Tokyo in the b
twenty nine and Pow in Japan for the last several
months of the war.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
So they're still collecting stories.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
It's on my bucket list to get down there and
see the place myself.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
So who fuck it?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Thank you so much, graud By. Wait real quick, Bruce,
any tips? I mean, when it's fifty degrees in Minnesota,
you guys, do you sleep shirtless outside on your lawn
like because that doesn't bother you at all? Right, that's
like a ball me day in Minnesota pretty much.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I was up at my cabin this weekend.
Speaker 12 (32:23):
It was about nineteen and I was sweating, so you know,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, he admit, man, he's been at Minnesota. People they
would out, they would outlast us. Florida people are sawny
that you.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You as a New Yorker, you dealt with cold winners
quite a lot because New York City, the wind is
brutal through so many of those buildings and everything else.
You're now down in Miami. When we were in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
we stepped off the plane. It was a little chili
in Fort Wayne. You were ready to just head straight
back to Miami. You're like, it's fifty four degrees. I
(32:53):
don't know a lot of people living. I wanted to
light a little a little fire and and just keep
my hands, you know, over it outside because it was
so cold in Indiana. I think it was in like
the high fifties. I don't know how you guys deal
with this stuff. It's really really tough. So you know,
we're working on it. Though we're working on it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, take some more called Clayton, who uh did you
have if your grandparents generation military service on that side.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, And my uncle is actually eighty four. He's dealing
right now with cancer I'm glad you mentioned this. He
listens and tries to watch as he can. But he
was in Vietnam and so and worked on While in Vietnam,
(33:37):
he was in charge of helicopter maintenance repair and one
of the crazy things. I think I mentioned this before
on the show, but one way they ensured that everybody
who would build the helicopters was as steadfast in their
in their rehabilitation and then their fixing of the helicopters
was every time they fixed one, they had to be
the first guys to go up in it. So for
(33:59):
anybody that has been in a helicopter, they would bring
him in, say hey they need maintenance, they need to
be fixed, and then you go right up in it.
So the way that you knew that you were working
on it and making sure that it was as good
as anybody could be. So he flew all over Vietnam
my helicopters.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
My mother's father, so my maternal grandfather who's passed away
years ago, but he was an officer on the USS Batan,
which is one of those converted converted aircraft carriers. It
was essentially they did this quick fix to these ships
to make them into I think they're called cr not CRVS.
(34:38):
I forget there's some designation for them.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
But yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
He initially was a pilot and did some did some
training pilot training. But I just remember reading about how
I think we lost was it fifteen thousand or thirty
thousand people to flight accidents in the Pacific theater, not
shot down.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Never found them, just.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
The plane crashed in the ocean, and that was that
going between theaters of conflict now, you know, like transport essentially.
I think it was something like either fifteen or thirty thousand,
some astonishing with training accidents and astonishing the high number.
So yeah, there's a lot of a lot of ways
that people are taking risks when they serve. All right,
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Veterans Day, I want to say thank you to all
of the veterans across America. We cruly thank you from
the bottom of our hearts. Thank you for your service.
We have so many of you who listened to this show.
It is a great honor that you spend your time
with us and that you trust us to speak honestly
about issues, including of war and peace and national security.
(37:37):
We have so many write again Clay and call Aga
in with their own stories of family service. Just there's
so many of them. We wish you get them all.
Here you go VIP email from Jessica. My grandfather was
one of the cormen that pulled the former President Bush
out of the water when his plane went down. He
served on nine different ships. William Hersey of New Hampshire.
(37:59):
So very cool. We're getting so many of these, Syracuse.
This is talkback, d D play this one claim Buck.
Speaker 11 (38:12):
Before it was Veterans Day, it was Armis's Day, and
my great great aunt was the one that carried the
flag through Paris when the surrender happened at the end
of World War One.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Very cool. I should mention we were talking about Patten,
my great uncle. So my grandmother's brothers they served and
Patton once stopped in front of him Buck and asked
if he had gotten to kill any Germans yet, And
when he said no, he was a young guy who
had just gotten overseas into Europe. He said, you're gonna
get your chance, which he loved telling that story. And
(38:51):
that is a pretty cool story. Let's see, Margaret. Let's
go Teresa and san Antonio fire away to give.
Speaker 13 (39:00):
A shout out and a thank you to the veteran
who called in and with the story about Omar Bradley
at Fort Bliss. And I'm wondering if he ever met
my dad. I grew up around Fort Bliss because my
dad was a retired Air Force colonel and then moved
to El Paso. We were at Fort Bliff all the time,
and my dad became friends with General Bradley. And I
(39:20):
was a little girl, but I would go to lunch
with him because during the summer my dad would take
me to the pool. We'd meet General Bradley at the
Officers Club, eat lunch, and then I'd go swimming with
my dad. And I wish I had understood then who
he was, but I remember my dad talking to him.
General Bradley was so sweet to me. He would hold
(39:41):
my hand. I could still picture him in his wheelchair
and he would hold my hand and talk to me
and ask me questions about school. And if I'd only known,
you know what questions to ask him. But I heard
the gentleman call in that he had had lunch with
him at Fort Bliss. I wonder if he ever knew
my dad. But it was seizing a experience my dad
(40:01):
ended up getting close to it.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Thank you, Thank you for that story, so many amazing stories.
Thank you to all the veterans.
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