November 27, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being a
listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
You are listening to the best of Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. A lot
of positive things. I always try to make sure that
I talk about the positivity as much as I possibly can.
We are continuing to set new all time records. In fact,
the S and P five hundred new all time record
as I am speaking to you, the dal Jones Industrial
(00:34):
average new all time record as I am speaking to you,
and the NASDAK new all time record as I am
speaking with you, all time records. For those of you
out there that own stock in any way, pensions four
oh one k's individual stocks, chances are if you happen
(00:55):
to go gander at your stock values, they have never
been higher in your life, and I do just want
to continue to point it out. Then in April, you
were told, oh my goodness, the stock market is collapsing.
Donald Trump has no idea what he's doing with the economy,
and the S and P five hundred is up two
(01:18):
thousand points since then. If you had bought stock back
in April. You're up around forty percent now on those
stock purchases. If if you merely just held on to
your existing stocks and just didn't even pay attention to
any of it. This year, the S and P five
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hundred is up right at eighteen percent so far. You
might say, Okay, well, Clay, how does that contextualize? On average?
On average, the S and P five hundred is going
to be up around nine percent on average. Some years
you might lose twenty, some years you may make twenty.
But this year is a very good year so far
for stocks, and we are at record highs. So I
(02:03):
understand also those of you out there say, Clay Man,
you don't know what you're talking about. The economy is
not as good on the ground as you're saying. I
get it, and I think a lot of that is
still working through the disaster that was the Biden economy.
In general, the stock market run six or twelve months
in advance of the economic conditions you see on the ground,
(02:24):
and so all of this is very positive. Trump is
trying to make the economic conditions better for all of
us on the ground, and right now he's in Asia,
he is meeting with Japan. I saw this morning that
he had a great reception in Japan. He is scheduled
to be in South Korea. Buck, I don't know if
you saw this. Some whispers that he might meet Kim
(02:44):
Jong un again. Remember how quickly the meeting with North
Korea's reclusive dictator happened in the past. He's going to
be in South Korea, Trump is He's going to be
meeting with Chinese Premier Z so there is some possibility.
Maybe there'll be additional aspects of that. As part of
his travel on Air Force One, Trump has been asked
(03:07):
answering questions quite a lot. And among those questions, let's
play a couple of these cuts, because I thought they
were entertaining, and I want to make sure that we
keep you updated with what the President is saying. Even
as we are following the New York City's mayor race
tomorrow we will have Curtis Sliwa on the program, and
even as we are following what's going on in New
(03:28):
Jersey and Virginia. One week from today is the twenty
twenty five elections. Also coming up on the one year
anniversary of Trump's record win in twenty twenty four, but Trump.
Yesterday on Air Force One was asked about would he
be running in twenty twenty eight. This obsession here is
cut twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
We have great people. I don't have to get into them,
but we have one of them standing right here. We
have JD. Obviously, the vice president is great. I think
Marco is great. I think if anybody would run against us,
I think if there be formed, the group would be leunstop.
I really do. I believe that I would. I would,
(04:08):
I would love to do it. I have my best numbers. Ever,
it's very terrible. I have my best numbers. See you
read it. Am I not runing gonaut? You'll have to
tell me.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, So Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could. I
do think the idea of a JD. Marco ticket unity
from the start is starting to get some momentum. Do
(04:43):
you buy the idea that that duo Marco Rubio obviously
has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside of
the Trump administration, right now primarily Secretary of State JD.
Van's VP. Do you buy the idea that those guys
might just say, hey, let's keep the band together and
have a unity ticket and we might not even see
that much drama in twenty twenty eight, that Trump might
(05:06):
just say, hey, these are my guys. I'm not gonna run.
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, yeah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going. You buy this? I mean,
because I'm starting to think it's more and more of
a possibility that they just say, hey, we're a unity ticket,
We're Trump three two point oh, three point oh. However
(05:26):
you want to say it, and let's not have all
the drama of this huge fight. Let's just keep things rolling.
What do you think is it too clean?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It all sounds great and it would be phenomenal in
so many ways. A lot could happen in two and
a half years, my friends, So you know, this is
this is the thing. This is the way we think
the story should go, And that to me means it's
unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.
(05:57):
That's how I view this. Yes, it should go this way.
There is a pathway. But remember I was I was
doing shows Clay in twenty nineteen. You know, I was
doing the solo Buck shows in twenty nineteen, where I
was saying, guys, the country, things are great, enjoy it.
Trump's kicking ass, Economy's phenomenal, We're at peace. You know,
things are great, and then boom, a.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in
your apartment in New York City.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We don't have we don't have to go back to
that trauma every time. You know, it was very difficult.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I still want to see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I would I mean this, I walked into your apartment.
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, just basically like March
and April and maybe a little bit of May. People
were like, eh, you know a little bit, and then
it was kind of over. And then every time I
(07:03):
see people, you some of you guys still have a
lot of post traumatic stress. You la, you New York
Chicago residents who really had to go through the chaos
in the insanity.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
La people most a lot of them had yards more so, whether.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
More so, but I mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle boarders.
I mean, I mean, this was it wouldn't even let
him walk on.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
The I'm just saying New York turned into a prison
camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to experience the city. Anybody who has
ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments that
I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
I would have lost my mind. I certainly wouldn't have
been able to stay. Uh. Trump being Trump, by the way,
in addition to saying hey, JD and Marco could be
(07:50):
an incredible team, he also decided to tee off on
Jasmine Crockett and he challenged them to a cognitive test
AOC we're going to talk about AOC coming out after
our friend Riley gains here in a moment. But Trump
also challenged AOC and Jasmine Crockett to a cognitive test,
and you'll want to hear this cut twenty two.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well I can tell you is that we have a
great group of people, which they don't. They have Jazzpin Crockett,
a low IQ person.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
They have.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ test, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Read I took. That's a
very hard They're really after two tests. I guess at
a certain point when their cognitive tests. Let AOC go
against Trump, let Jasmine go against from I don't think
(08:38):
get to Jasmine the first couple of questions there is
the a tiger an elephant.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That you have.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know, when you get up to about five or six,
and then when you get up to ten and twenty
and twenty five, they couldn't come close to answering any
of those questions.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I mean, he is just you know what's on.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
You know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again,
and I think that he does, just like to say
that he's gonna run again because it upsets the Libs
so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay, our
jobs will never be as entertaining as they have been
in the Trump era, because he makes you, guys, even
remember what it was like back in the days when oh,
(09:18):
everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It was boring
and generally useless and often lies and wrong. In the
Bush era, whatever, you know, people just said stuff. You
know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little spicy
toward the end, as we know, but in general, we
did not have a president who just says hilarious things
all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they're showing you
pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test,
but just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again? Because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(10:00):
I really I feel like so many people who have
Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an inability
to process tone and context. Because I mean, how could
you not laugh at this at the end of this answer.
Maybe we don't have the ability to point out, Yeah, they.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Really have to tests. I guess in a certain way,
but that cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump, Let
Jasmin go against some I know they get a Jasmine.
The first couple of questions there is the a tiger
and elephant that you're have, you know, when you get
up to about five or six, and then when you
get up to ten and twenty and twenty five. They
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couldn't come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has fireback buck Jasmine Crockett says,
I got into college on my own. Trump didn't. This
is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has a
low IQ cut twenty three.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you, Kaitlin,
to finally ask him what is his IQ, because he
is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a
low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are low.
And I can guarantee you that whatever score, if he's
taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his qualifies as
low listen, He's never been known to be an Einstein.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
This is not a guy who.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Got in on marriage when it came to going to college.
This is someone who, but for him being born with
a silver spoon, probably wouldn't have got into anybody's institution,
unlike me. So you know, I am not worried about that,
and I wish people would look at the fact that
you have a president of the United States who consistently
is obsessing over two women of color that are members
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of the House.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
and it's not just Jasmin Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. Yo. Who's really disappointed
by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There are a
lot of people who represent us in Congress and in
(12:07):
the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.
They're also not great communicators that is really not ideal.
Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats, Independence
by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great communicators
out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed in politics,
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was that he could have the success he had with
no background in politics because there are a lot of
lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing around candidly
when it comes to arguments and it comes to the
political direction of the country.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
All true, and this is why we continue to hope
for reform of our government system. Yet we have people
who are so often buffoons representing US government systems.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Judy on the podcast listening, Oh, I got two funny comments,
Buck one a friend, UH sent this through my wife.
I'm listening to yesterday show. Please tell Clay he's right
on weddings. Also, you, Buck, My two sisters and I
all three got married in less than two years, three
(13:21):
huge weddings my dad paid for. He's still pissed about
how much they cost to this day. Listen to this, Buck.
He actually made us sign a contract that if each
of our marriages did not last at least five years,
we had to pay him back for what the wedding cost.
Completely true story.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Valerie, how this right, No problem no problem with that
at all, No problem with that at all. You're gonna
you want all the bells and whistles if you're not
gonna make this a real union that goes to test
that last the distance. You got to pay that money back.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I am team dad. I've never heard of any dad
that did this before. But he had three daughters and
he had to pay for for all of them within
two years. And dad just said, Hey, if they don't
last five years, you're on the hook to pay back
for this.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I don't have a daughter. You don't have a daughter,
but you know, we're still trying. So maybe we'll get
a daughter here over at over in Team Buckland. And
I would just say this, Clay, if I was in
that situation, you know, let's say twenty years down the line,
after having a baby girl, I would I would take
the let's sit down. I'll give you a budget. Yeah,
(14:27):
and the budget is twofold. It's a wedding budget and
a down payment on your house budget.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yep. Allocate the resources as you see fit exactly. You
get to make the determination.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But I think that that puts it very you know,
especially you got a lot of people out of millennials
priced out of expensive member the price out of expensive markets.
People can live in the Tulsa suburbs in a nice place,
no problem, But everybody that's complaining about this. The millennials,
they want to live you know, at the like you know,
the Navy Yard in DC, or they want to live
in u Heke and Hill in Boston. I don't know
(15:01):
where do fancy people in Boston live. I just don't
want to say the Upper Eastide in Beverly Hills because
those are only fancy neighborhoods that come.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah. Look in Nashville, there are tons of places you
can live very affordably. All the kids want to live
in the Gulch. They want to live in Music Row,
they want to live in twelve South right and you
could live very cheaply in Gallatin right by and large,
you could live very cheaply in lots of suburban areas.
But I love your idea. Hey, let's sit down. Here
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is your budget. If you're fortunate enough to have resources
to be able to help with the down payment on
a home, make a smart, rational decision. But Dad there
was like, Hey, if this don't go, find if this
doesn't go five years, you're gonna have to pay me back.
Judy is weighing in. AA, let's see what she had
to say.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So I've never actually called the talk show before.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
But I did just listen to Clay talk about the
fact that he didn't get to watch any football and
that his Tennessee volunteers loss.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
So I'm really sorry to see.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
This, but old time.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Gude they did.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Was she spiking the football right in your heart? Clay,
Ye's what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
She was. Now I got to watch some football, but
I was saying that I spent six hours because my
Alabama fan son of all uh dropped his phone in
the toilet and we had to go get the Evidently,
eventually we found out we had to replace the battery
that was wired out or buzzed out or whatever it did.
And so I unfortunately did watch Alabama beat Tennessee. But yes,
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we were in ancient Rome.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
They would say that this was an omen and that
his dropping of the phone was like dropping the vall's hopes.
On that day, I thought that that would actually be
the case, except he is an Alabama fan, and so
he both tormented me by having me spend six hours
getting his phone fixed, and then as soon as the
game was over, I picked him up where he had
(16:50):
been hanging out with a bunch of his friends, and
he said, roletide, Dad, Tennessee sucks and I was like, dude,
I spent six hours getting your phone repaired.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Hey, I'm Clay Travis and I'm Buck Sexton. You know
what we're thankful for this.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Year, all of you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's right. We have the best radio audience in the country,
hands down.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Sending a big, warm and happy Thanksgiving from the Clay
and Buck Show.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Well appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I am in Chicago.
By the way, I should mention why our awesome boss,
Julie Talbot is being inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame,
and so I'm up here for that. Buck. Also, Colin Cowherd,
(17:35):
good friend of mine. I think you've had him on.
We've had him on the show at some point. His
radio show, Sports Talk Show is on pretty much the
same time as our show. But he's also being inducted
into the Radio Hall of Fame up here in Chicago.
All right. I wanted to play this because I think
we pulled it over from yesterday. We had Riley Gains
(17:59):
on earlier this week. She is awesome. Congratulations. If you
heard Riley on the show with us, she just had
a baby a month ago. She works at out Kick.
I've gotten to know she and Louie, her husband. They
are just fantastic people, really salt of the earth. There,
just really good people. Louie, her husband, is also a swimmer.
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Only thing bad I can say about Riley is that
she went to the University of Kentucky instead of her
home state University of Tennessee. But nobody's perfect. And so
Riley was talking about the fact that she got attacked
by AOC just out of nowhere. AOC decided that she
was gonna rip Riley. And then this awful chick who
(18:45):
evidently comes out of the Bravo world. And I mean,
since she is being so incredibly nasty to Riley as
you're gonna hear her, be let me just tee off
on this chick off the top. Her name is evidently
Jennifer Welch, and she is just an I'm gonna try
to think how to phrase this while still having FCC
(19:08):
restrictions in play. Well, basically, she's an awful bitch and
she is also representative of a particular type of I
would say, liberal white woman who is just nasty and awful.
And I think this is the foundation now of the
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Democrat Party. So unfortunately she is representative of what I
think the base of the Democrat Party is like. And
I'm gonna play this for you because I just think
it's important to understand. All Riley has done is say, hey,
men shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports. And
she has said that because she actually swam against a
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man who won an NCAA title two years ago, Leah
Thomas character. So here is what Jennifer Welch said on
her podcast. We've had to bleep it, but obviously it
was not bleeped on her podcast. We do have FCC standards,
and so I want you to hear it, and I
want you to think if Riley was your daughter or
your granddaughter, all she's done is say, hey, men have
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no place in women's athletics. This is how this awful
bitch responded to her, Jennifer Welch, Riley.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Gaines, all you do is hate on people. You are
wound up like a cheap clock over trans people. You
show them no grace, no compassion. You defend billionaires, you
cheer and celebrate when children are zip tied, and then
you have the audacity to get on television and try
to lecture people who fight for the people that are suffering,
(20:48):
that stand and put their arms around people that need sanctuary,
and you try to act like you're better than they are.
You're an insufferable Nobody likes you, and no matter what,
you will always have been the dumb bitch that tied
for fifth place. And the only place that you can
get a job is at bottom feed or Fox News.
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You insufferable. Nobody likes you, except for the other fake
Christians that enjoy in their spare time watching children get
zip tied and then sit there and justify it while
they read the Bible with their hideous crucifixit crucifixes around
their necks.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So Rilly gains, Okay, So so Clay, it's it's horrendous
this woman, the whole thing. But getting beyond all the
name calling, in the nastiness and everything there, I have
two things on this. One is it goes without saying,
but I'm going to say it. A lot of people
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think Riley Gaines is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Acutely we employed it out cake, so I guess we
are also like awful bottom feeders. But she's an amazing
employee and an awesome person.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
She's a love a lovely human being. She's a mom,
she's a wife. She is respected for her voice and
what's what she's doing, which is standing up for women
and women's sports all over America, but also broader social commentary.
People who have actually competed at any level of physical endeavor,
(22:20):
which I'm sure this woman who only thinks she's competing
in is the Botox Olympics. I think they all greatly
respect being the fifth best swimmer in the NCAA in
the United States. That's an incredible accomplishment. I mean, imagine
being like, oh, silver medalist at the Olympics, What a
loser like? That's basically the same mentality that we're talking
(22:42):
about here. No, if you're the civil silver medalist at
the Olympics, is not a loser unless you're such a
loser that you have no idea what it is to
be good at anything and to work hard at something. Also, respectfully,
Riley popular with heterosexual men across America. Married young baby.
But I'm just saying a lot of people like Riley,
(23:04):
So this notion that no one likes Riley Gaines, this
is the something. This is bitterness and nastiness from a woman.
But beyond that, beyond that she unfortunately, Clay, this this
Welsh person is growing in popularity very quickly. Yeah, because
she is. And this is why it matters. This is
why you're playing this clip. This is why all of
(23:25):
a sudden, we're taking the time, because they're losing the
angry uh you know, Danix and wine swilling left wing
coastal boss babe wanna be lib no Kings protest attending.
White women of America are very sad right now, and
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they're very sad in general, and they're looking for people
to blame because they're losing the argument and they're losing
the culture, and so the nastiness and it is truly nasty.
And you and I would, you know, we'd never speak
about anybody in the world of commentary the way that
she's speaking about Riley. You know, even on the other side,
it's just just lines being crossed. But she's popular, Clay,
(24:10):
because this is tapping into the zeitgeist of these democrat
white women in America right now. And that's why it's concerning,
because they're getting increasingly desperate, increasingly pathetic, and increasingly vicious
you would.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Want Riley to be your daughter or your granddaughter. I
will just say that. And I think that's one reason
she connects so well, not only with people who were
Fox News viewers, which would tend to be older people
in general, but also why she's so popular on social media,
why we hired her at OutKick, and why she has
continued to connect so well with the Turning Point crowd,
(24:48):
with the college campus crowd. I mean, she just graduated
herself a couple of years ago. She's still I think,
like twenty four to twenty five years old right now.
But I think what you hit on, I want people
to hear the kind of awfulness that is out there,
and then listen to what she said the same person.
And to Buck's point, she is becoming very popular. Here's
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listen to what she said about.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I just I just wanted to just really quick, I
just want to you know, that's she's not like some
angry commenter person that no one is. She's actually knocking.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
She's making a good living by saying the things that
we played for you and here's yeah, she's going after
Charlie Kirk and she's saying we need to have more
celebration of Charlie Kirk's death cut eleven kudos.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
To Bernie, to AOC, to Zoran and that woman out
in somewhere Middle America saying Charlie Kirk, he was a racist,
he was a piece of sh There are so many
more of us than there are of them. And these
Democrats that continue to play patty cake with corporations and lobbyists.
Nobody wants that. Nobody wants you. We want politicians to
(26:01):
speak freely and look at what the benefit is. Look
at what is happening in New York and you are
sitting on the sidelines running your social media like complete
do works. It's embarrassing. Get yoursel together, Hakim and Chuck, seriously,
get your together, because the Democratic Party is moving on.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So she goes on and there are a bunch of
those takes. They're losing the culture. And what happens when
you lose the culture is you start to get increasingly
desperate and you start to take bigger swings. And I
thought it was very strange that AOC out of Nowhere
came after Riley Gaines. Now this chick in a really
kind of awful way, which is not dissimilar to the
(26:43):
way that Simone Biles stepped into this. There's a calculated
attempt to come after Riley because she is speaking to
normal moms and normal daughters and granddaughters out there that
are looking around and saying, this culture's failing us. And remember,
and I'll say this before, but I met Riley, and
(27:04):
I said a long time ago when I first met her,
because she was starting to speak out and I saw
her online and one of our first conversations, she said, yeah,
I was going to go to dental school. She was
all set up to go to dental school out of
the University of Kentucky until she swam against a man,
and everybody else just seemed completely willing to accept it.
(27:28):
They were just going to pretend like it was totally
normal for a man to put on a women's bathing suit,
spend time in the women's locker room, and win win
an NCAA women's championship and not speak out about it
at all. And so she just said, I can't keep
my mouth shut on this, and that's the reason. She's
not a dentist. So she didn't choose this bucket chose her.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well, this is what is actually so emblematic of the
trans issue overall on all these matters is they make
it your problem, whether it's about bathroom usage or sports
teams or you know, preferred pronouns or whatever. They make
demands of you. And then when you say, hold on
a second, I don't agree with that. You're asking me
(28:14):
to be party to a lie or party to something
that is unfair. They say, why are you making such
a big deal of this, Why are you causing this issue?
You know, there's a very clear passive aggressive, really a
gas lighting that is at the heart of the whole
transagenda approach. It really started out with just be courteous,
(28:34):
Just be kind, you me, all of you. You all
want to be courteous and kind. And of course we
always say to you, you treat a trans person with dignity.
You treat a transperson like the human being they are.
You're kind to them, you're respectful to them. They're people
like we're people. Some of them are in need of
substantial help, you know, mental health assistance, and by the way,
that's nothing to be ashamed of. That's something that people
(28:55):
should get help for, the same way if you had
a physical health issue that you need to get assistance for.
But That's different, Clay than saying a six foot two
guy should be spiking the volleyball in the face of
a girl who weighs one hundred and twenty pounds who's
actually a girl. That's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The reason why Riley is so effective is what you
just said, because people will say, I don't know why
you care about this. They'll say that to you. They'll
say that to me, and you say, well, okay, you
don't think that I should care about basic competition standards.
I mean, that's an argument you can make Riley. You
can't say that to And notice what they try to
(29:31):
attack her by saying, oh, you came in fifth. They
never acknowledge that Leah Thomas came in first, that that
man won a women's championship. They always go to Riley
came in fifth. Like he swam a bunch of different events,
he won one of them comfortably. He's the NCAA women's champion,
(29:52):
but they always go to attacking Riley. To your point,
is also a sign that you know nothing about sports.
You're the fifth best swimmer in that's pretty freaking impressive.
How many people listening to us right now, myself included,
have ever been the fifth best in the nation at anything.
So the idea that you would attack somebody who is
(30:12):
one of the best at what they pursue is just
laughably absurd. But that's where they are, and it's nasty
and it's toxic, and it's going to be happening more.
And I think we need to play it for you
because you need to understand how desperate they are becoming
as the culture is moving against them. And the reason
(30:32):
they're attacking Riley is because she's having such strong impact.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Ken in Michigan wants to talk about wedding stuff. Ken
By all means, sir.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Hey love listening to you guys. When my two daughters
have got married, when they were planning their wedding, my
wife and I sat down with them and our potential
son in law and negotiated a fair, a nice but
fair wedding cost. And when we got done, I said, Okay,
you're gonna get half the money up front, you'll get
the other half on your wedding day, and anything that's
(31:06):
left over you can keep. And boy did they change
their tune and start cutting back on costs and they
kept them balanced for advice.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I love this. I love this advice. I mean, if
you got rational kids that are getting married out there,
If you're the kid that is listening to us right
now who is going to get married one day, financial
issues gonna sound like an old man now. Often derail
marriages more than almost anything, right, Couples fight over money.
(31:35):
There's very strong chance that you and your spouse may
have different standards of expenses or understanding of how money
should be allocated. And so starting off with something that
is a common goal, being able to build a home,
and not starting off in debt. My goodness. I just
the choices that people make. Can you imagine Bud getting
(31:56):
married and owing fifty k to help pay off your wedding.
I would I were the.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Guys, we're here to help you out with this not
worth it? You'd have a not my actual wedding we
had twenty five people. Yeah, my actual wedding. We had
twenty five people. Basically, I think that was the number.
Carry my correct me. She would know better than it
was something like that. And we loved it. It was perfect.
It ever had a great time. So you know, it
was in the church, it was our families, and that
was it and that was all we needed. Now, we
(32:21):
threw a big party. But when you're just throwing a
party without all the wedding stuff, you know, Clay, you
came to that. Yeah, that's We had one hundred and
eighty people at a party, but the expense wasn't that
much because it was it was a three hour party.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It's not the thing with weddings is you get into
all this other stuff and it gets all all Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They play up on everybody's insecurity by saying, well, you
could choose not to do this, but most people do,
you know. And look, if you are fortunate enough to
have the money as a dad or mom and you
want to throw a big party, that's fine. You could
spend money however you want.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
It exactly anyone who has the money to burn. We're
not telling you what to do with that. I'm just
saying it's not worth it to go into debt, yes,
which people do, which is bonkers. It's not going to
debt for a vacation. I don't enjoy your vacation when
you're running up a twenty thousand dollars credit card debt
on it.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's nuts. It's nuts. And again I would echo what
Buck said. If the girl is gonna be upset about
the size of the ring. You need to run in,
run other.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Directions, not gonna get It's not gonna get better, guys,
it's not gonna get better.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And by the way, maybe you end up having success
in life and you want to give your wife a
bigger ring somewhere down as a testament to the success
you've had together. I think that's a cool idea.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But I have a deal with Carrie because you know,
she she quit her job to take care of speed
and to you know, run the household. I can get
her gifts and things for Christmas, like, you know, things
like We're the Little Jewelry and stuff like that. But
She's like, well, if I get you a gift, isn't
it just with your money? And I'm like, yes, that's why.
Don't do it. Just keep being a great wife. And
I mean it, you know, don't don't get me a Rolex.
(33:55):
I don't need a Rolex. I don't even want to
wear a fancy watch. I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I only shop at Costco, so I don't even know
what i'd want
Weird.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being a
listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
You are listening to the best of Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. A lot
of positive things. I always try to make sure that
I talk about the positivity as much as I possibly can.
We are continuing to set new all time records. In fact,
the S and P five hundred new all time record
as I am speaking to you, the dal Jones Industrial
(00:34):
average new all time record as I am speaking to you,
and the NASDAK new all time record as I am
speaking with you, all time records. For those of you
out there that own stock in any way, pensions four
oh one k's individual stocks, chances are if you happen
(00:55):
to go gander at your stock values, they have never
been higher in your life, and I do just want
to continue to point it out. Then in April, you
were told, oh my goodness, the stock market is collapsing.
Donald Trump has no idea what he's doing with the economy,
and the S and P five hundred is up two
(01:18):
thousand points since then. If you had bought stock back
in April. You're up around forty percent now on those
stock purchases. If if you merely just held on to
your existing stocks and just didn't even pay attention to
any of it. This year, the S and P five
(01:40):
hundred is up right at eighteen percent so far. You
might say, Okay, well, Clay, how does that contextualize? On average?
On average, the S and P five hundred is going
to be up around nine percent on average. Some years
you might lose twenty, some years you may make twenty.
But this year is a very good year so far
for stocks, and we are at record highs. So I
(02:03):
understand also those of you out there say, Clay Man,
you don't know what you're talking about. The economy is
not as good on the ground as you're saying. I
get it, and I think a lot of that is
still working through the disaster that was the Biden economy.
In general, the stock market run six or twelve months
in advance of the economic conditions you see on the ground,
(02:24):
and so all of this is very positive. Trump is
trying to make the economic conditions better for all of
us on the ground, and right now he's in Asia,
he is meeting with Japan. I saw this morning that
he had a great reception in Japan. He is scheduled
to be in South Korea. Buck, I don't know if
you saw this. Some whispers that he might meet Kim
(02:44):
Jong un again. Remember how quickly the meeting with North
Korea's reclusive dictator happened in the past. He's going to
be in South Korea, Trump is He's going to be
meeting with Chinese Premier Z so there is some possibility.
Maybe there'll be additional aspects of that. As part of
his travel on Air Force One, Trump has been asked
(03:07):
answering questions quite a lot. And among those questions, let's
play a couple of these cuts, because I thought they
were entertaining, and I want to make sure that we
keep you updated with what the President is saying. Even
as we are following the New York City's mayor race
tomorrow we will have Curtis Sliwa on the program, and
even as we are following what's going on in New
(03:28):
Jersey and Virginia. One week from today is the twenty
twenty five elections. Also coming up on the one year
anniversary of Trump's record win in twenty twenty four, but Trump.
Yesterday on Air Force One was asked about would he
be running in twenty twenty eight. This obsession here is
cut twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
We have great people. I don't have to get into them,
but we have one of them standing right here. We
have JD. Obviously, the vice president is great. I think
Marco is great. I think if anybody would run against us,
I think if there be formed, the group would be leunstop.
I really do. I believe that I would. I would,
(04:08):
I would love to do it. I have my best numbers. Ever,
it's very terrible. I have my best numbers. See you
read it. Am I not runing gonaut? You'll have to
tell me.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, So Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could. I
do think the idea of a JD. Marco ticket unity
from the start is starting to get some momentum. Do
(04:43):
you buy the idea that that duo Marco Rubio obviously
has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside of
the Trump administration, right now primarily Secretary of State JD.
Van's VP. Do you buy the idea that those guys
might just say, hey, let's keep the band together and
have a unity ticket and we might not even see
that much drama in twenty twenty eight, that Trump might
(05:06):
just say, hey, these are my guys. I'm not gonna run.
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, yeah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going. You buy this? I mean,
because I'm starting to think it's more and more of
a possibility that they just say, hey, we're a unity ticket,
We're Trump three two point oh, three point oh. However
(05:26):
you want to say it, and let's not have all
the drama of this huge fight. Let's just keep things rolling.
What do you think is it too clean?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It all sounds great and it would be phenomenal in
so many ways. A lot could happen in two and
a half years, my friends, So you know, this is
this is the thing. This is the way we think
the story should go, And that to me means it's
unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.
(05:57):
That's how I view this. Yes, it should go this way.
There is a pathway. But remember I was I was
doing shows Clay in twenty nineteen. You know, I was
doing the solo Buck shows in twenty nineteen, where I
was saying, guys, the country, things are great, enjoy it.
Trump's kicking ass, Economy's phenomenal, We're at peace. You know,
things are great, and then boom, a.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in
your apartment in New York City.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We don't have we don't have to go back to
that trauma every time. You know, it was very difficult.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I still want to see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I would I mean this, I walked into your apartment.
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, just basically like March
and April and maybe a little bit of May. People
were like, eh, you know a little bit, and then
it was kind of over. And then every time I
(07:03):
see people, you some of you guys still have a
lot of post traumatic stress. You la, you New York
Chicago residents who really had to go through the chaos
in the insanity.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
La people most a lot of them had yards more so, whether.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
More so, but I mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle boarders.
I mean, I mean, this was it wouldn't even let
him walk on.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
The I'm just saying New York turned into a prison
camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to experience the city. Anybody who has
ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments that
I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
I would have lost my mind. I certainly wouldn't have
been able to stay. Uh. Trump being Trump, by the way,
in addition to saying hey, JD and Marco could be
(07:50):
an incredible team, he also decided to tee off on
Jasmine Crockett and he challenged them to a cognitive test
AOC we're going to talk about AOC coming out after
our friend Riley gains here in a moment. But Trump
also challenged AOC and Jasmine Crockett to a cognitive test,
and you'll want to hear this cut twenty two.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well I can tell you is that we have a
great group of people, which they don't. They have Jazzpin Crockett,
a low IQ person.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
They have.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ test, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Read I took. That's a
very hard They're really after two tests. I guess at
a certain point when their cognitive tests. Let AOC go
against Trump, let Jasmine go against from I don't think
(08:38):
get to Jasmine the first couple of questions there is
the a tiger an elephant.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That you have.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know, when you get up to about five or six,
and then when you get up to ten and twenty
and twenty five, they couldn't come close to answering any
of those questions.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I mean, he is just you know what's on.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
You know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again,
and I think that he does, just like to say
that he's gonna run again because it upsets the Libs
so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay, our
jobs will never be as entertaining as they have been
in the Trump era, because he makes you, guys, even
remember what it was like back in the days when oh,
(09:18):
everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It was boring
and generally useless and often lies and wrong. In the
Bush era, whatever, you know, people just said stuff. You
know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little spicy
toward the end, as we know, but in general, we
did not have a president who just says hilarious things
all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they're showing you
pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test,
but just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again? Because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(10:00):
I really I feel like so many people who have
Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an inability
to process tone and context. Because I mean, how could
you not laugh at this at the end of this answer.
Maybe we don't have the ability to point out, Yeah, they.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Really have to tests. I guess in a certain way,
but that cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump, Let
Jasmin go against some I know they get a Jasmine.
The first couple of questions there is the a tiger
and elephant that you're have, you know, when you get
up to about five or six, and then when you
get up to ten and twenty and twenty five. They
(10:40):
couldn't come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has fireback buck Jasmine Crockett says,
I got into college on my own. Trump didn't. This
is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has a
low IQ cut twenty three.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you, Kaitlin,
to finally ask him what is his IQ, because he
is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a
low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are low.
And I can guarantee you that whatever score, if he's
taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his qualifies as
low listen, He's never been known to be an Einstein.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
This is not a guy who.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Got in on marriage when it came to going to college.
This is someone who, but for him being born with
a silver spoon, probably wouldn't have got into anybody's institution,
unlike me. So you know, I am not worried about that,
and I wish people would look at the fact that
you have a president of the United States who consistently
is obsessing over two women of color that are members
(11:42):
of the House.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
and it's not just Jasmin Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. Yo. Who's really disappointed
by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There are a
lot of people who represent us in Congress and in
(12:07):
the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.
They're also not great communicators that is really not ideal.
Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats, Independence
by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great communicators
out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed in politics,
(12:29):
was that he could have the success he had with
no background in politics because there are a lot of
lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing around candidly
when it comes to arguments and it comes to the
political direction of the country.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
All true, and this is why we continue to hope
for reform of our government system. Yet we have people
who are so often buffoons representing US government systems.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Judy on the podcast listening, Oh, I got two funny comments,
Buck one a friend, UH sent this through my wife.
I'm listening to yesterday show. Please tell Clay he's right
on weddings. Also, you, Buck, My two sisters and I
all three got married in less than two years, three
(13:21):
huge weddings my dad paid for. He's still pissed about
how much they cost to this day. Listen to this, Buck.
He actually made us sign a contract that if each
of our marriages did not last at least five years,
we had to pay him back for what the wedding cost.
Completely true story.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Valerie, how this right, No problem no problem with that
at all, No problem with that at all. You're gonna
you want all the bells and whistles if you're not
gonna make this a real union that goes to test
that last the distance. You got to pay that money back.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I am team dad. I've never heard of any dad
that did this before. But he had three daughters and
he had to pay for for all of them within
two years. And dad just said, Hey, if they don't
last five years, you're on the hook to pay back
for this.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I don't have a daughter. You don't have a daughter,
but you know, we're still trying. So maybe we'll get
a daughter here over at over in Team Buckland. And
I would just say this, Clay, if I was in
that situation, you know, let's say twenty years down the line,
after having a baby girl, I would I would take
the let's sit down. I'll give you a budget. Yeah,
(14:27):
and the budget is twofold. It's a wedding budget and
a down payment on your house budget.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yep. Allocate the resources as you see fit exactly. You
get to make the determination.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But I think that that puts it very you know,
especially you got a lot of people out of millennials
priced out of expensive member the price out of expensive markets.
People can live in the Tulsa suburbs in a nice place,
no problem, But everybody that's complaining about this. The millennials,
they want to live you know, at the like you know,
the Navy Yard in DC, or they want to live
in u Heke and Hill in Boston. I don't know
(15:01):
where do fancy people in Boston live. I just don't
want to say the Upper Eastide in Beverly Hills because
those are only fancy neighborhoods that come.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah. Look in Nashville, there are tons of places you
can live very affordably. All the kids want to live
in the Gulch. They want to live in Music Row,
they want to live in twelve South right and you
could live very cheaply in Gallatin right by and large,
you could live very cheaply in lots of suburban areas.
But I love your idea. Hey, let's sit down. Here
(15:27):
is your budget. If you're fortunate enough to have resources
to be able to help with the down payment on
a home, make a smart, rational decision. But Dad there
was like, Hey, if this don't go, find if this
doesn't go five years, you're gonna have to pay me back.
Judy is weighing in. AA, let's see what she had
to say.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So I've never actually called the talk show before.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
But I did just listen to Clay talk about the
fact that he didn't get to watch any football and
that his Tennessee volunteers loss.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
So I'm really sorry to see.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
This, but old time.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Gude they did.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Was she spiking the football right in your heart? Clay,
Ye's what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
She was. Now I got to watch some football, but
I was saying that I spent six hours because my
Alabama fan son of all uh dropped his phone in
the toilet and we had to go get the Evidently,
eventually we found out we had to replace the battery
that was wired out or buzzed out or whatever it did.
And so I unfortunately did watch Alabama beat Tennessee. But yes,
(16:28):
we were in ancient Rome.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
They would say that this was an omen and that
his dropping of the phone was like dropping the vall's hopes.
On that day, I thought that that would actually be
the case, except he is an Alabama fan, and so
he both tormented me by having me spend six hours
getting his phone fixed, and then as soon as the
game was over, I picked him up where he had
(16:50):
been hanging out with a bunch of his friends, and
he said, roletide, Dad, Tennessee sucks and I was like, dude,
I spent six hours getting your phone repaired.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Hey, I'm Clay Travis and I'm Buck Sexton. You know
what we're thankful for this.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Year, all of you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's right. We have the best radio audience in the country,
hands down.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Sending a big, warm and happy Thanksgiving from the Clay
and Buck Show.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Well appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I am in Chicago.
By the way, I should mention why our awesome boss,
Julie Talbot is being inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame,
and so I'm up here for that. Buck. Also, Colin Cowherd,
(17:35):
good friend of mine. I think you've had him on.
We've had him on the show at some point. His
radio show, Sports Talk Show is on pretty much the
same time as our show. But he's also being inducted
into the Radio Hall of Fame up here in Chicago.
All right. I wanted to play this because I think
we pulled it over from yesterday. We had Riley Gains
(17:59):
on earlier this week. She is awesome. Congratulations. If you
heard Riley on the show with us, she just had
a baby a month ago. She works at out Kick.
I've gotten to know she and Louie, her husband. They
are just fantastic people, really salt of the earth. There,
just really good people. Louie, her husband, is also a swimmer.
(18:21):
Only thing bad I can say about Riley is that
she went to the University of Kentucky instead of her
home state University of Tennessee. But nobody's perfect. And so
Riley was talking about the fact that she got attacked
by AOC just out of nowhere. AOC decided that she
was gonna rip Riley. And then this awful chick who
(18:45):
evidently comes out of the Bravo world. And I mean,
since she is being so incredibly nasty to Riley as
you're gonna hear her, be let me just tee off
on this chick off the top. Her name is evidently
Jennifer Welch, and she is just an I'm gonna try
to think how to phrase this while still having FCC
(19:08):
restrictions in play. Well, basically, she's an awful bitch and
she is also representative of a particular type of I
would say, liberal white woman who is just nasty and awful.
And I think this is the foundation now of the
(19:30):
Democrat Party. So unfortunately she is representative of what I
think the base of the Democrat Party is like. And
I'm gonna play this for you because I just think
it's important to understand. All Riley has done is say, hey,
men shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports. And
she has said that because she actually swam against a
(19:55):
man who won an NCAA title two years ago, Leah
Thomas character. So here is what Jennifer Welch said on
her podcast. We've had to bleep it, but obviously it
was not bleeped on her podcast. We do have FCC standards,
and so I want you to hear it, and I
want you to think if Riley was your daughter or
your granddaughter, all she's done is say, hey, men have
(20:18):
no place in women's athletics. This is how this awful
bitch responded to her, Jennifer Welch, Riley.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Gaines, all you do is hate on people. You are
wound up like a cheap clock over trans people. You
show them no grace, no compassion. You defend billionaires, you
cheer and celebrate when children are zip tied, and then
you have the audacity to get on television and try
to lecture people who fight for the people that are suffering,
(20:48):
that stand and put their arms around people that need sanctuary,
and you try to act like you're better than they are.
You're an insufferable Nobody likes you, and no matter what,
you will always have been the dumb bitch that tied
for fifth place. And the only place that you can
get a job is at bottom feed or Fox News.
(21:09):
You insufferable. Nobody likes you, except for the other fake
Christians that enjoy in their spare time watching children get
zip tied and then sit there and justify it while
they read the Bible with their hideous crucifixit crucifixes around
their necks.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So Rilly gains, Okay, So so Clay, it's it's horrendous
this woman, the whole thing. But getting beyond all the
name calling, in the nastiness and everything there, I have
two things on this. One is it goes without saying,
but I'm going to say it. A lot of people
(21:47):
think Riley Gaines is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Acutely we employed it out cake, so I guess we
are also like awful bottom feeders. But she's an amazing
employee and an awesome person.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
She's a love a lovely human being. She's a mom,
she's a wife. She is respected for her voice and
what's what she's doing, which is standing up for women
and women's sports all over America, but also broader social commentary.
People who have actually competed at any level of physical endeavor,
(22:20):
which I'm sure this woman who only thinks she's competing
in is the Botox Olympics. I think they all greatly
respect being the fifth best swimmer in the NCAA in
the United States. That's an incredible accomplishment. I mean, imagine
being like, oh, silver medalist at the Olympics, What a
loser like? That's basically the same mentality that we're talking
(22:42):
about here. No, if you're the civil silver medalist at
the Olympics, is not a loser unless you're such a
loser that you have no idea what it is to
be good at anything and to work hard at something. Also, respectfully,
Riley popular with heterosexual men across America. Married young baby.
But I'm just saying a lot of people like Riley,
(23:04):
So this notion that no one likes Riley Gaines, this
is the something. This is bitterness and nastiness from a woman.
But beyond that, beyond that she unfortunately, Clay, this this
Welsh person is growing in popularity very quickly. Yeah, because
she is. And this is why it matters. This is
why you're playing this clip. This is why all of
(23:25):
a sudden, we're taking the time, because they're losing the
angry uh you know, Danix and wine swilling left wing
coastal boss babe wanna be lib no Kings protest attending.
White women of America are very sad right now, and
(23:49):
they're very sad in general, and they're looking for people
to blame because they're losing the argument and they're losing
the culture, and so the nastiness and it is truly nasty.
And you and I would, you know, we'd never speak
about anybody in the world of commentary the way that
she's speaking about Riley. You know, even on the other side,
it's just just lines being crossed. But she's popular, Clay,
(24:10):
because this is tapping into the zeitgeist of these democrat
white women in America right now. And that's why it's concerning,
because they're getting increasingly desperate, increasingly pathetic, and increasingly vicious
you would.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Want Riley to be your daughter or your granddaughter. I
will just say that. And I think that's one reason
she connects so well, not only with people who were
Fox News viewers, which would tend to be older people
in general, but also why she's so popular on social media,
why we hired her at OutKick, and why she has
continued to connect so well with the Turning Point crowd,
(24:48):
with the college campus crowd. I mean, she just graduated
herself a couple of years ago. She's still I think,
like twenty four to twenty five years old right now.
But I think what you hit on, I want people
to hear the kind of awfulness that is out there,
and then listen to what she said the same person.
And to Buck's point, she is becoming very popular. Here's
(25:10):
listen to what she said about.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I just I just wanted to just really quick, I
just want to you know, that's she's not like some
angry commenter person that no one is. She's actually knocking.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
She's making a good living by saying the things that
we played for you and here's yeah, she's going after
Charlie Kirk and she's saying we need to have more
celebration of Charlie Kirk's death cut eleven kudos.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
To Bernie, to AOC, to Zoran and that woman out
in somewhere Middle America saying Charlie Kirk, he was a racist,
he was a piece of sh There are so many
more of us than there are of them. And these
Democrats that continue to play patty cake with corporations and lobbyists.
Nobody wants that. Nobody wants you. We want politicians to
(26:01):
speak freely and look at what the benefit is. Look
at what is happening in New York and you are
sitting on the sidelines running your social media like complete
do works. It's embarrassing. Get yoursel together, Hakim and Chuck, seriously,
get your together, because the Democratic Party is moving on.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So she goes on and there are a bunch of
those takes. They're losing the culture. And what happens when
you lose the culture is you start to get increasingly
desperate and you start to take bigger swings. And I
thought it was very strange that AOC out of Nowhere
came after Riley Gaines. Now this chick in a really
kind of awful way, which is not dissimilar to the
(26:43):
way that Simone Biles stepped into this. There's a calculated
attempt to come after Riley because she is speaking to
normal moms and normal daughters and granddaughters out there that
are looking around and saying, this culture's failing us. And remember,
and I'll say this before, but I met Riley, and
(27:04):
I said a long time ago when I first met her,
because she was starting to speak out and I saw
her online and one of our first conversations, she said, yeah,
I was going to go to dental school. She was
all set up to go to dental school out of
the University of Kentucky until she swam against a man,
and everybody else just seemed completely willing to accept it.
(27:28):
They were just going to pretend like it was totally
normal for a man to put on a women's bathing suit,
spend time in the women's locker room, and win win
an NCAA women's championship and not speak out about it
at all. And so she just said, I can't keep
my mouth shut on this, and that's the reason. She's
not a dentist. So she didn't choose this bucket chose her.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well, this is what is actually so emblematic of the
trans issue overall on all these matters is they make
it your problem, whether it's about bathroom usage or sports
teams or you know, preferred pronouns or whatever. They make
demands of you. And then when you say, hold on
a second, I don't agree with that. You're asking me
(28:14):
to be party to a lie or party to something
that is unfair. They say, why are you making such
a big deal of this, Why are you causing this issue?
You know, there's a very clear passive aggressive, really a
gas lighting that is at the heart of the whole
transagenda approach. It really started out with just be courteous,
(28:34):
Just be kind, you me, all of you. You all
want to be courteous and kind. And of course we
always say to you, you treat a trans person with dignity.
You treat a transperson like the human being they are.
You're kind to them, you're respectful to them. They're people
like we're people. Some of them are in need of
substantial help, you know, mental health assistance, and by the way,
that's nothing to be ashamed of. That's something that people
(28:55):
should get help for, the same way if you had
a physical health issue that you need to get assistance for.
But That's different, Clay than saying a six foot two
guy should be spiking the volleyball in the face of
a girl who weighs one hundred and twenty pounds who's
actually a girl. That's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The reason why Riley is so effective is what you
just said, because people will say, I don't know why
you care about this. They'll say that to you. They'll
say that to me, and you say, well, okay, you
don't think that I should care about basic competition standards.
I mean, that's an argument you can make Riley. You
can't say that to And notice what they try to
(29:31):
attack her by saying, oh, you came in fifth. They
never acknowledge that Leah Thomas came in first, that that
man won a women's championship. They always go to Riley
came in fifth. Like he swam a bunch of different events,
he won one of them comfortably. He's the NCAA women's champion,
(29:52):
but they always go to attacking Riley. To your point,
is also a sign that you know nothing about sports.
You're the fifth best swimmer in that's pretty freaking impressive.
How many people listening to us right now, myself included,
have ever been the fifth best in the nation at anything.
So the idea that you would attack somebody who is
(30:12):
one of the best at what they pursue is just
laughably absurd. But that's where they are, and it's nasty
and it's toxic, and it's going to be happening more.
And I think we need to play it for you
because you need to understand how desperate they are becoming
as the culture is moving against them. And the reason
(30:32):
they're attacking Riley is because she's having such strong impact.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Ken in Michigan wants to talk about wedding stuff. Ken
By all means, sir.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Hey love listening to you guys. When my two daughters
have got married, when they were planning their wedding, my
wife and I sat down with them and our potential
son in law and negotiated a fair, a nice but
fair wedding cost. And when we got done, I said, Okay,
you're gonna get half the money up front, you'll get
the other half on your wedding day, and anything that's
(31:06):
left over you can keep. And boy did they change
their tune and start cutting back on costs and they
kept them balanced for advice.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I love this. I love this advice. I mean, if
you got rational kids that are getting married out there,
If you're the kid that is listening to us right
now who is going to get married one day, financial
issues gonna sound like an old man now. Often derail
marriages more than almost anything, right, Couples fight over money.
(31:35):
There's very strong chance that you and your spouse may
have different standards of expenses or understanding of how money
should be allocated. And so starting off with something that
is a common goal, being able to build a home,
and not starting off in debt. My goodness. I just
the choices that people make. Can you imagine Bud getting
(31:56):
married and owing fifty k to help pay off your wedding.
I would I were the.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Guys, we're here to help you out with this not
worth it? You'd have a not my actual wedding we
had twenty five people. Yeah, my actual wedding. We had
twenty five people. Basically, I think that was the number.
Carry my correct me. She would know better than it
was something like that. And we loved it. It was perfect.
It ever had a great time. So you know, it
was in the church, it was our families, and that
was it and that was all we needed. Now, we
(32:21):
threw a big party. But when you're just throwing a
party without all the wedding stuff, you know, Clay, you
came to that. Yeah, that's We had one hundred and
eighty people at a party, but the expense wasn't that
much because it was it was a three hour party.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It's not the thing with weddings is you get into
all this other stuff and it gets all all Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They play up on everybody's insecurity by saying, well, you
could choose not to do this, but most people do,
you know. And look, if you are fortunate enough to
have the money as a dad or mom and you
want to throw a big party, that's fine. You could
spend money however you want.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
It exactly anyone who has the money to burn. We're
not telling you what to do with that. I'm just
saying it's not worth it to go into debt, yes,
which people do, which is bonkers. It's not going to
debt for a vacation. I don't enjoy your vacation when
you're running up a twenty thousand dollars credit card debt
on it.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's nuts. It's nuts. And again I would echo what
Buck said. If the girl is gonna be upset about
the size of the ring. You need to run in,
run other.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Directions, not gonna get It's not gonna get better, guys,
it's not gonna get better.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And by the way, maybe you end up having success
in life and you want to give your wife a
bigger ring somewhere down as a testament to the success
you've had together. I think that's a cool idea.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But I have a deal with Carrie because you know,
she she quit her job to take care of speed
and to you know, run the household. I can get
her gifts and things for Christmas, like, you know, things
like We're the Little Jewelry and stuff like that. But
She's like, well, if I get you a gift, isn't
it just with your money? And I'm like, yes, that's why.
Don't do it. Just keep being a great wife. And
I mean it, you know, don't don't get me a Rolex.
(33:55):
I don't need a Rolex. I don't even want to
wear a fancy watch. I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I only shop at Costco, so I don't even know
what i'd want
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