Best of the Bus: Jared Goff, Amon Ra St. Brown & Penei Sewell On The Detroit Lions

Recorded: July 25th 2024 | The Boys took on Motor City! After an exciting 2023 season, it only made sense for Will and Taylor to travel to the Detroit Lions' training camp to see what the team had in store for 2024.

Jared Goff, Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Penei Sewell broke down their thoughts on the future of the Detroit Lions, their roles in the team’s success, and how the Lions could ultimately achieve their greatest goal — a Super Bowl.

Will and Taylor, as always, asked the hard-hitting questions: “Would you cut your d*ck off for a Super Bowl?”... “What’s your biggest pet peeve about Dan Campbell?”... “Are you packing lotion in your training camp essentials bag?” Between the laughs and jokes, there were also some real, thoughtful moments. Jared Goff opened up about his emotions when he was traded to Detroit and what it felt like to face the Rams in the playoffs.

The Lions had plenty to look forward to heading into 2024, but they weren’t looking too far ahead. All three players emphasized the importance of training camp — that every rep brought them one step closer to the start of the NFL season. This one was an epic one, so enjoy!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, we got you. You didn't get off, get out.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
We know the drill.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (00:05):
Okay, First off, I don't know if this is breaking news.
The Detroit Lions are now a cool football team. It's
now cool. It's now cool to be a Lions fan.
It's cool to be in the in Michigan and being like, yo,
we have the best college football program all the time,
thirty minutes away from Detroit, and now we possibly have
Super Bowl champions in twenty twenty four But I feel
like you and I are very similar when it comes
to the draft. I'll take you back to twenty fourteen.

(00:28):
Lions were picking at number ten. I went to the
University of Michigan. I was sitting there, I saying to myself,
for the love of God, please Lions do not pick me.
I do not want to go to this horrendous franchise.
No disrespect because I just said we're cool. Now, I
just said we're cool, So it's all good. I have
some intel saying that you felt very similar in those
situations and now you're part of a cool franchise.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Has a feel No, not similar at all, to be honest.
Let's just get that out the way. I mean it's
a lot different than when you were going in the draft,
you know.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean you didn't have Campbell, you didn't have homes. So, uh,
when I got drafted, I was really just happy. I mean,
to be honest, I thought I was gonna go earlier.
So once I just went past five, I was kind
of like, all right, wherever I goes I meant to be.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I got picked here, and uh, I think it's the
best decision of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
To be honest, where'd you think you were gonna go?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I think I was gonna go to Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Were you hopeful for that?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Nah? I honestly I was helpful for anything. Just I
didn't care.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, that's right, because that was when they were talking
about Cincinnati needs to take a tackle and.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
It took jam Chase right, yep, and a great decision.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Now it was your camp sitting there being like, yo,
Cincinnati's the move, that's where you're gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Uh. For the most part, it was leaning towards that way. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
And how has it been seeing the fandom of the
Lions when you first got here out people are excited
about Dan and all that, but there was just like
the thirty years you guys literally broke the seal on
something they haven't done forever. Seeing it now this year,
all the hype you get back in the city, You
see everyone just totally dialed into everything. How does that
feel knowing that you've been in a huge part of.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
That, man, it feels a amazing to be honest, just
because my rookie year, I think we didn't win a
game until like week twelve or like eleven or something
like that, and that was depressing, to be honest, never
been a part of something like that, And uh, just
to see our growth from there, and just to see
what type of dudes that are in his building now,
it's just amazing. You just see the progress, You see

(02:19):
the blueprint that Holmes and Campbell put together and just
makes you love the game, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
With all Like everybody loves coach Campbell. He's always got
the clips that go viral. People love the football guy
of the that he is.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
What is your biggest pet peeve of Coach Campbell pet peeve?

Speaker 5 (02:39):
There's not a lot, but sometimes when he's in a
team meeting room, he'll go on a spiel. And when
he's on his spiel, sometimes he needs to take a break.
And it's a long break and you just don't know
what's gonna come out of his mouth next. So he's
going on about a story. He'll pause for a nice
three minutes and then totally just veer off another direction,

(03:04):
like we could talk about football and then have that
pause and then talk about his.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Dog and the conversation done.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
You're just like, I thought that was supposed to be
like kind of inspirational, motivational, kind of get something out
of it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
And then he'll just yeah, man, he's really thinking of
something deep here.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yes, exactly the man. I'm about to get pumped right now. YEA,
give me something, coach.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then dog loves steak or something like. That's probably
the one thing.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know, after the first thirty seconds of that three
minute period, you're just like you whisper to your boy,
like kind of nudging his leg.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
You can see his heart racing too.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
He's just like breathing heavily, and you're just said, all right,
come on, coach, Okay, what are you about to say?
And then he drops that and you're just like, all right, coach,
I see you next time.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Did Your offensive line is probably one of the best
in the entire NFL Like, sorry, no, that's sieving your
hard time. But with Frank and then Graham leaving and
coming back and Decker and you, like, the expectation for
you guys got to be so high this year. Like,
do you guys talk about how you know there's such
a like the foundation of the team is really on

(04:14):
the offensive line? Do you guys talk about how important
it is for you guys to essentially live up to
the standard that everyone's putting on you guys right now?

Speaker 5 (04:20):
We definitely don't talk about it because I think a
lot of people already know and that everyone else is
kind of talking for us, And so I think our
thing is is just coming into the building every day
and be in that example, you know, just not even
talking about it, just be it and filling those shoes
with no hesitation and a lot of confidence. So I
don't think we need to talk about it, So we

(04:41):
just be about it.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
The offensive line rooms are the best. What do you
guys operate by any rules?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
So for example, it's like the fine system.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
The fine there's always a fine system.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I feel like everywhere if you get mentioned in a
team meeting, you know, that's a fine. If you're doing
anything quirky, like, what rules does your guys offensive line
room have?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, maybe it's with rookies.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Maybe no rules for like I guess the vets and
the older guys, but the rookies they have to stock
the fridge, sodas, juice, water, whatever, whatever the fellas want.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
And then snacks, little debbies gotta be a lot of
little Debbie.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Snacks, big little Debbie guy.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, big, big time. And then uh, that's about it.
And then maybe one of the vets want like an
express machine or like a hot dog stand or whatever
they want, so they'll ask the rookies.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
They gotta get it.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, as a rookie ever dropped the ball.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, so far, this rookie class has been great, honestly.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
And what about the what about the holiday season? You
get into Spootober? You got Thanksgiving around the corner, Christmas?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
So far, just Christmas. We don't do Thanksgiving or Halloween.
We have the rookies decorate the room, and I think
that's about it, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
You guys get each other gifts.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, we do, like a white elephant type vibe.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is there a limit?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Last year it.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Was a thousand thousand minimum.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, minimum.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's a good white elef.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, good nice, yeah, some nice stuff out there, some papers.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Down like here, let's do fifty, yeah, knowing it'll go
up from there, right and you.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Can't do cash, right, can't?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, no, no, I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I don't want to step on your guys traditions, but
you guys really need to start decorating for Halloween. You're
in the middle of the season.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
The document The Rooies, I mean we have folloween yeah
yeaah oh wait, actually the team had the team has something.
It's not just the line, but the team has a
thing where all the rookies have to dress up for
Halloween and then Campbell introduces them, say what they are?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
So?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, growing up, you grew up in Samhow.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Correct correct America simum?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
And then you went to Utah when you're twelve years old?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Correct? When?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Where when did you pick up football? Because obviously you
go into Oregon, you're an immediate starter, you win the
Outland Trophy. Like you've had a very deck great career already.
But usually kids are picking up the game of like five, six,
seven years old?

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Were you doing that?

Speaker 5 (07:06):
I've always been around a game, so like not playing it,
like with pads on and everything. But my dad was
a coach, so honestly, since probably like four five, I've
been around the game, just running around his high school team,
helping him set up cones and oftentimes running the drills
with the players. And then my first padded youth gig

(07:32):
was when I was nine turning ten. And this age
group is a little different on the island because you
can't really be specific because of money and all that.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's not that much.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
So I think it was like ten to thirteen you
could play, and then like that was the only range
for the youth football down there. So I was nine
turning ten and my two older brothers were already playing,
and I was like, man on the I'm on the age,
let me play. My dad didn't let me play that year,
and just because everyone was just huge at thirteen on
the island, and so I played my when I was ten,

(08:04):
and that's when I just I got killed left and right,
just getting killed by these thirteen fourteen.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Year olds.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Didn't play at all. But I think that moment right
there is what really set me up for success, because
once I got to the island, I was the bully.
Like growing up, I knew all those hits that I
got were like hard and like all those things is
kind of like taking as a little kid.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now I'm the one giving it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
So like I'm the one staying in the tone, and
I know what it feels like and I know how
to what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So what was it like growing up in a household
like you? Obviously your three brothers they all play ball.
You're an old man's a head coach. What's it like
growing up in an environment like that?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Honestly, it was a lot of fun. A lot of
broken things in the house. Mom didn't like it, but yeah,
super fun. We played football every second we had.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Is that hard on you guys for football?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah? That's about it. Though.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
It was like football was my dad and academics was
my mom. Ye, so but yeah, it was really harsh
on us, uh in terms of like doing the right
things and uh uh learning to plays and stuff like that.
So but every chance we got on the island to
play football on the beach in our backyard on the mountain, like,

(09:20):
we played it, and it was like our football was
like a bottle like this, sorry, let me not put
that up like that one, and then we'd fill it
up the bottom with like sand and then water and
it'd have some weight on it and that'd be our
football just because we didn't have one.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
And then we just tossed around and just tackle each
other basically.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, and then you ended up going to Oregon, which
has like the nicest facilities.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
All yeah. No, it was a total total flip.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Total flip. What made you choose Orgon.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
To be honest, it was a personnel that was there,
head coach Mario Cristobal, that's my guy. Loved that dude
to death and fell in love with this whole philosophy,
his whole vibe and what he's about. And I know
he's an online guy too, And to have an online
guy as a head coach, I think it's pretty good
for me.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
So no doubt.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Should we tear talk.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Let's hear some tier talk real quick?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
All right, So we have this segment called tier talk,
where essentially you tier one through three, like your top three.
Our tier talk with you is going to be necessities
in training camp. What are the top three things that
you have to have that you have to pack? Do
you guys stay in a hotel?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
No? No, I'm going to go home.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
What are the three things you have to have during
training camp?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Phone?

Speaker 5 (10:32):
I guess, But like with the phone, I watched movies
a lot just during the breaks.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Are you a gamer?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I am a gamer?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
But were you like a rookie.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That if you were in a hotel anywhere you're packing
your exack?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I think my rookie year we went to or second year,
we went to Indy for like a joint training camp.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, bad thing. I was like, yeah, I need it.
I'm a big NCAA. You got right now?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
So that's got me hookedgan all the time?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Any good? Nah, I'm still trying to figure out this.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm horrendous.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
So I'm sitting in the same boat.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, it's a little different, but uh so I need
I don't really need much, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Have about some gold bond? Are you a chafer during
training camp?

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
No, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I would always I would always get the rashes.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's a big gold bond on sit in front of
a fan naked with Calmine lotion in case I got
boys and.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
Ivy damn okay wow.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, nothing else though, phone, I'm simple?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Uh Tier three, I do like the phone, so I'll
put the phone out there. Tier three phone, uh, Tier
two electrolytes because I'm a big cramper, so I would
always be taking my water bottles and always be filling
them up. But my tier one, because we did stay
in a hotel.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Was lotion.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
H I mean, yeah, time you have? You got what
times you got this morning?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
U six, six forty five?

Speaker 4 (12:11):
And then you're in the building. You've just finished practice.
It's not even doon yet.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Get back?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
What's up to get back done?

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
True? I got back last night around seven forty.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
So we would get back like eight thirty nine. Yeah,
that's t I would take those fifteen minutes and it
would be me and myself and I.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Know we did stay in a hotel.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, we have to stay in the hotel for the
first until the second I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Got here.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, we got and you gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
You can't tell me you walk into a hotel room
and you're not like, this is the safest I'll ever be.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, you gotta take care of some alone time to
take care of business.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So that's my way games.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
My Tier one is lotion.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh maybe necessity.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is some nicotine, Lucy, Lucy got. The only thing I
feel like I would ad is Norma Tech. I feel
like I was always packing Norma text everywhere I went
in Norman Tech Xbox.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's a good one.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Lotions a great one, but normal Tech. I'll start with
gold Bond, Norma Tech Xbox.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I would never bring the Xbox because my brain,
I'd be up till two, like two am, and then
the next day I'm screwed.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, but it's like it's especially important, like for an
off day, off days when it's a big Xbox. If
the boys, yeah, running the hallways.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
You know what I mean, they know they're all good points,
all good points. It's just me. If I walked into
a room like now, the Locans in the corner, and
I got to play the Xbox for four or five hours,
I got, I got tradition, I got I got stuff.
I gotta figure out.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Guys are wondering why you're not sitting with them for
snack at night and you're just backing it to go
to get up to your real.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Right immediately go play. Imagine trying to play, trying to
be in camp right now. We'll see if he's twenty
five going on.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I know, I know because I love that game. Right now,
I know what?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You obviously signing congratulations, the biggest, the highest paid alignment
in history. As a right now, what is we love
to ask this question and please humorous. What has been
your biggest splurge purchase since signing that contract? Or maybe
when you got drafted in the first round? I mean
you did? You are like the man.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Uh, I guess let's start with the rookie one a
house but like that's I guess standard didn't need a
roof over my head, but a car I got, like
I got the tar X. Okay, that bad boy, you know.
So that's my baby right there. And then this big
contract honestly, not much other than jeury yeah big jewelry.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah yeah not me, but uh for the significant other.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
So you just got married, congratulations, thank you two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah. No honeymoon, no, Yeah, we're gonna wait.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
So where are you all gonna go?

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Man?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Balley's calling my name a little bit, but we'll see.
I don't know, it's not for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
That's just I couldn't even pick that out of the
map if I if I wanted to I just want
to go and.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Just culture yourself exactly. I love that.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
We appreciate you coming, man, thank you so much for
having me in the ass. So just taking a little
bit of time out of your days, it means a lot.
So we appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Man, appreciate that. Bro.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look at that punctual, punctual.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Two hundred balls like a day caught in the jukes.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
Did you do today before practice? Sorry, before practice, before practice,
before practice?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, you had an increase, You've had a I'm on
episode six. You've had an incredible showing so far.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Thanks appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I really respect it.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
And I'm super curious what it was like growing up
in the household with your old man.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Honestly, for me, it was normal, Like that's the that's
the life I grew up. You know, knowing him, you know,
being the guy he is. Everyone sees the way he acts.
You know, him telling me to drink a coke at halftime.
I'm used to it, get those texts all the time,
you know, the sayings that he has. I'm used to
it him, you know, being like our trainers, but you know,

(16:05):
outside of sports and being our trainer. He was awesome dad,
So it was a good time.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
When we had CMC on.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
He would say that his dad ed McCaffrey like he
would get grounded if he got arm tackled in youth football.
Did you have anything like that with your old man,
because I would assume he was pretty hard on you guys.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yeah, no, I didn't get no. I wouldn't say I
got grounded or you know, punished for anything. It was
just like, you know, if you had a bad game,
getting that car right home is always hell. It's like
that's the last thing you want to do after the game.
After a bad game. Yeah, you know, you got to
get in the car with your dad and go home
and he's gonna tell you everything you did wrong and
what you got to fix and how you got to
be better, and so those are I would say, that's

(16:44):
what I dreaded most, is the car right home, or
we'd go after, you know, after practice, go back to
the park, buy a house and get more drills in,
just keep working on the stuff that I wasn't doing right.
So I was used to it, but as a kid,
it's like here a right, here we go, Like I
gotta go back to this an that's all I knew.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
With with your old man, like obviously him being a
part of like your strength, your coaching, all that stuff.
At what point when you're like, hey, Dad, like I'm
a senior at USC, I have coaches for this name.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
And college. It was it was a little different because
I wasn't with him. So I was the first time
I wasn't with my dad, you know, almost every day.
So but I went to USC, so it was like
an hour away from from his house, so he'd be
at a lot of the practices. Obviously he couldn't come
to all them because some practices aren't open to family,
but he would come to a lot of them, and
you know, he would still coach me up. He kind

(17:34):
of let me do my thing. But when I got
to college, but if he saw anything that he didn't like,
he was either telling me, text me, calling me, whatever
it was. But even still to this day in the NFL,
he's still you know, texting me, calling me, you know,
giving me his thoughts and opinions for me. You know,
I respect it. Obviously, you know, he's never played at
this level, so some of the things it's hard for

(17:56):
me to explain to him. Because, like I tell other people,
He's like, I want you to get the ball on
for a second, third down every play, like you should
be getting the ball. I'm like, it doesn't work like that.
I gotta run routes, gotta run guys off and things
like that. So he just wants me to, you know,
keep going, keep going in.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
But I love him to death.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
How is his exposure as far as like the Netflix
receiver and all that, How has he been received by
the public?

Speaker 7 (18:18):
People love him, Bro, Yeah, I'm in the locker room.
I got teammates not even talking about me. They're talking
about my dad. Man. I love your dad, Bro, he's awesome.
I got Michael Badget tell me he's looking at all
the podcasts. He's keeping up with him and he loves
his sayings. I tell everyone like, Bro, I'm I'm used
to it. Like every day I can tell you what
he's about to stay before he even says it, Like
I know exactly what type of guy is. But the

(18:39):
people love him and they love you know. I think
he's he's raw, he's honest, he's he's himself, no matter
if the cameras or if it's not. And I think
people you know, respect that, but I think his personality
is just one of one.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
What's his go to quote? Like, what is the number
one quote of his.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
Go to quote? I mean, as a kid who was
so many I feel like he always, you know, reminded
us about, you know, this decision making. He would tell
us something, he would tell us. You know, you can
either listen to me or listen to yourself. But if
I were you, I would listen to me. That's something
he always told us growing up as kids. I mean

(19:18):
there's so many uh you know, shoot for the stars
because the bottoms of a crowded I mean, he has
so many sayings. Then he has these little like one off.
I don't know if you guys seen our podcasts, but
it's like, if the situation arises and something looks too
good to be true, be careful. All Kenny looks good
before you taste it. Like, there's so many little sayings

(19:38):
he has that he always Yeah, but I'm used to it.
I mean I've picked up some from him too.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
You brought the podcast. How long have you guys been
doing a podcast?

Speaker 7 (19:47):
We've been doing it going. This is going into our
third year now, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Is it do you guys do a weekly or just
during the season.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
During the season, every we record on Tuesdays and it
drops on Wednesdays.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
What's it called.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
It's got the Same Brown podcast.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Same Brown podcasts. Go check it out, subscribe. All yeah, right,
five stars drop comments. Dude, I love the way you play.
I feel like you play pissed off.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Which also is.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I guess I'll use the word like unexpected. You're a
five star cat, you go to USC, you leave early
and declared for the draft, You get drafted, which round
to get fourth round? But where do you find Where
do you feel like you found this chip on your
shoulder to play the way that you play?

Speaker 7 (20:30):
I think for me it was I've always been like
that ever since you know, I was a kid. I've
just been super competitive, like I've always and I hated losing.
Like that's the biggest thing for me is whatever I do,
I don't want to lose, especially if I'm playing sports,
because I love I love sports. I loved them growing up, basketball, football, soccer, everything.
I hated losing. And so when I got to high school,

(20:50):
I played varsity as a sophomore and I played a
little got hurt, broke my foot, and then my brother
was balling out. He was a junior going crazy. I
was like, killing my brother would do me. So then
he you know, next year, I'm a junior, he's a senior.
I gotta do better than him. He was going crazy.
He was like, had like fifteen touchdowns over a thousand
yards and I was super happy for him. But I
was like just me being me, like being around my

(21:12):
brothers all the time. I got to do better than
my brother. So going into my junior year, I was like,
I got to do better him. So we both, you know,
had great years. I might have had a little more touch,
like a few more stats in him, but it was
like neck and neck. He ended up leaving, going to Stanford.
And then you know, I got my senior year at
Modern Day and at that time, I was like a
five star or whatever like you said, and won the

(21:34):
state title. Yeah, we won everything. One of the best
teams ever in high school football. But we won the
whole thing. You know, did all the camps and Nike
opening and everything, and being at those camps. I just
love one on ones. That was the biggest thing for me,
was doing one on ones. You against the dB. What
a quarterback everyone's watching, and I just I just love

(21:54):
the competition aspect of you know, me versus you. And
then ever since, I feel like, you know, high school
into college, I wanted to play as a freshman. So
I was out there as a freshman, trying to dog
people whatever I could do, running people over, blocking, trying
to make every catch, taking every rep if I could,
And that just kind of translated all the way. And
then I got dropped late. I was mad, already got

(22:14):
here and same thing over again. I wanted to go dominate.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, there's something about like football players, even when you're
having the success you do, they like in a good way,
like delusion of making being like these people don't believe me.
So I'm gonna have a chip on my shoulder. Right
with your brother going to Stanford and you guys planning
against each other in the PAC twelve, the conference formerly
noticed PAC twelve. Did you ever think about going to Stanford?

Speaker 7 (22:38):
I did. It was between Notre Dame, Stanford, and USC,
so I had my oldest went to Notre Dame, middle
went to Stanford, and I went to USC becoming I
was like, I love I always loved Stanford because it
was an educational smart school. I just love Coach Shaw
and everyone. And then Notre Dame. I didn't really know
much about Notre Dame. My brother took a visit and
I went with him, and I was like, this is
pretty cool, like tradition everything the local is little, eh,

(23:01):
but like once you get there, it's like its own world.
The games are amazing electric. So went to Notre Dame.
When I visit. I love Notre Dame, but I was like,
he ended up declaring as I was coming out of
high school, so I peopuld have stayed. I think one
more year. I probably would have went to Notre Dame
to play with my older brother because I've never played
with him, but he ended up declaring to go with
the NFL. I was like, you know what. Notre Dame

(23:23):
was cool. He just left though Stanford they don't really
throw the ball. I love the school, but they don't
throw as much as I would like. And USC is
close to home, and I want to keep my talent, Yeah,
my talent at home.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
You mentioned being pissed off being drafted late. There's a
you have a list of receivers that got drafted out
of you. What are the names on those lists?

Speaker 7 (23:41):
You know I would recite those again for you guys,
but you guys probably heard it too many times. You
guys are sick of it now, so I can't do
it again for you guys.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now. When you were coming out, I know a couple
of sites like PFF Draft Network, they projected you in
like second or third round and talked to you being
a pure second string player. Do you ever think do
you ever remember? Are these things now that you've had
the success that you do?

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (24:03):
You know, I wouldn't say like back, you know, coming
out obviously, you know when I first started, when I
first got here and it started making some plays. Yeah,
But like now it's I feel like I don't really
pay too much attention to that. I mean, that's their job.
They got to make. Media has to make, you know, predictions, whatever,
that's their job. That's they have to do. I don't

(24:24):
blame him. I don't think they're the best at it,
but it is what it is. But now I'm at
a point in my career where it's like I'm worried
about Obviously, I want.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
To play good.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
Every player wants to play good, but I feel like
we just want to win a super Bowl. That's the
biggest thing, whatever it takes for me as a team
to lead, whatever it is to be a good teammate,
to make more players. If I have to go out
there and go be super Bowl champs, that's the biggest thing.
I feel like we know we can do as a team.
We feel like we got the guys in our in

(24:55):
our building, on our roster, the coaches, We've been here
for a while now, and we got so close last
year that I mean, we just gotta we just got
to push a little harder.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
If when Will Wills already talks about the intensity you
play with and everything, the competitive nature when you're in
the lock room with guys in the wide receiver room
is a dramatic room. It can be very like finicky
that way when you see guys maybe not putting in
the same effort as you. How do you approach it
from a leadership standpoint?

Speaker 7 (25:25):
You know, sometimes it's tough for me. I feel like
I don't wanna I don't want to the teammates the
think I'm you know, being tough on them or I
don't like them. So that's kind of something that I'm
trying to been trying to battle right now. Is when
to speak up and when not to because I'm I'm
not a guy that's a hoorah guy. I'm gonna go
out there. I don't say much. I like to work.
I'd rather show you better than I can tell you.

(25:47):
But you know, if something is out of line and
I feel like I need to speak up, I'll speak up.
But you know, if someone's not working hard on the field,
I feel like with our practice, it's kind of hard
not to work hard. When everyone's working hard, you'll kind
of be like the the automat now if you're not
doing the right thing. So I feel like our coaches
and teammates everyone does a great job of pushing each other,
so that's not really a problem we have here. But

(26:07):
like I said, if something is really out of line,
then I'll speak up. But for the most part, I
just like to show the guys how I work, and
you know, then my plate at the talking.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Do you find yourself like focusing on developing into that,
like more of a vocal leader now that like when
you're a guy, like obviously your voice carries more weight.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah, Like I said, something I've been working on because
my whole life I haven't really been a vocal leader.
That's not something that I thriving. You know, I feel
like some guys talk too much and that's really that's
not the guy I want to be. I want to
be a guy that when I do say something, you
know people are listening. So it just hasn't been me,

(26:46):
but something I definitely need to work on get better
as being more vocal. But like I said, I don't
want to be redundant and someone that's speaking to me
it's the worst for me. So like, I'll speak up
if I have to, but something has to really be
going wrong for me to speak up.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, USC going to the Big ten this year. How
do you feel the boys in California stack up against
a real big ten ball?

Speaker 7 (27:06):
You know, I love the move. We're not We're not
worried about the Big ten though.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Let's unpack that for a second. One of the national champions.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
You guys got to take a lot of long fights.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Fights Michigan wants to do is run it like just
packed the box. They can't throw, make him throw will
be good.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Every team they played against did that and they lost
to everything.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
They've all gone now.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
They lost eight guys who they lost eight.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
Dudes right, Michigan did.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, well, actually they lost fifteen guys, so they all
got drafted. Even guys. Even what are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Who is reloaded?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
What's USC doing?

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Don't we got Lincoln? Righty? Do you guys?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Do you guys promote paying your fingernails in California? Is
that a big thing?

Speaker 7 (27:47):
No, we don't put out anything.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
If you want to do it, go ahead, you know
I love that. Yeah, that's a good PC answer. So
you you guys are gonna run the big ten.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
No problem.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
I don't know if we're gonna run it, but it's
gonna be It's gonna be fun. I know Michigan is done.
Like they had their one shot. It's over.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
That isn't wilde wild statement? Half of your fans are
Michigan fans?

Speaker 7 (28:05):
No, they're Detroit Lions fans. And if you're not a
USC fan, there's a problem.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Are you going to go to the game September twenty First.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
I wish we actually have an away game.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
That sucks, dude, because that would be I would have
been lit. For you to see that kind of experience
would be unbelievable. You've probably never seen anything experience. Are
you talking about the biggest stadium in North America, the
third biggest in the world.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
I actually took an official to Michigan when I was
coming out of high school. Michigan Michigan State rainy, don't
do it crazy, Michigan State won. I'm like, I can't
go here. Here was that? That was twenty seventeen. They won, Bro,
Michigan one, raining like crazy, I'm from I'm from southern California.

(28:46):
I'm like, this rain is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Number one.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
I couldn't catch a ball in this Then I'm like
and they lost. Vibes were low. Recruiting coordinator wasn't feeling I'm.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Good, Bro.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
It was a stadium loud, No know, why are you
doing this?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Man? Like getting a rapport to get.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Out of it.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I love it. I love the back and forth.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I can't wait till Cetemery keep your DMS open. I
will be there, will be after that game.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
I will be ready right now.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yes, dude, what do you mean for you to be
the youngest receiver to a mass of thousand yards? I
think it was eight days before Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
It was cool. I mean, I mean, that's a that's it.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
That's that's just cool.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
That's awesome, right, I mean, Covin's one of the best
ever played. So for me, like being in, you know,
playing for the Lions, everything you do is compared to Covin,
which is it's great, but it's also tough. Like he's
the best, one of the best to ever do it.
So it's an honor to be, you know, even considered,
you know, being the same conversation as him. But he

(29:48):
did it for so long, and I feel like, I mean,
I see a pictures on Twitter of him when he
was playing the Saints. It's him on the goal line
with literally two dbs on him. You don't see that
anymore anywhere. Like that just shows you how, you know,
how dominant he was. So just to you know, being,
like I said, in the same conversation as him is
an honor. But I gotta keep going. Man, he was

(30:09):
he was a he was a beast.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
What receivers do you keep your eye on? Now, Like
in your in your brain, who's like the top three?

Speaker 7 (30:16):
You're not gonna get me on the top three. I'm
not gonna give you no top three. But guys that
I like to watch Stolis, guys that I like to
I watched a bunch of guys. Honestly, I mean I
can go down the list.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
We do a top three guys like to watch Top
three guys I like to watch. We can do that,
like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, top three guys.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
It's not my top three by the way, but guys
I like to watch. Davante Adams, love watching him. I'm
gonna go Keenan Allen last one. Let's just go. I'm
gonna go. Justin Jefferson. He's in our division. We play
him twice a year. We watched we play the same team,

(30:57):
so we get to see on film, you know, a
lot of the stuff that they do. And he's a
lot on the table lot, So he's a he's nice.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Just top three, top three receivers. I'm jam Chase is overrated?

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
What what?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
What fun question? We should we do a segment? Should
we do Shout for Shadow real quick? Or we holding that?
What was the twisted questions was.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Are you familiar with the was the American Ninja Warrior? American
Ninja Warrior?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
All right?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Say you need to get through the course and tap
the button on the other side to save the world.
Who in the locker room would you trust the most
to accomplish the American Ninja Warrior obstacle course.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
Oh, to save the world.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's a great question, Trim.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Do I know what kind of obstas are like the
main weight? Speed? Is that stuff matters?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to be fast.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I think so, Like it's a jungle gym out there.
I was gonna say balance, speed, I don't think would.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I think we're all dead.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Might be a good one.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You gotta you gotta climb, you got balance, jumping, timing.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
Let me hold on Aden Hutchinson.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
But he's white.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Trust a white guy.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
You can't trust a white guy. But with the fate
of the sport, there's no shot.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Khalif Raymond might have a shot.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Oh, Khalif, but he is bro the ramp and he
is shorter.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
He's fast though, he's got a little spring to He's
got a little explosiveness too.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, well this is not.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
It could be, you would say.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Besides, Khalif is great, but you already said that's not
gonna go. Someone else.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Can do.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
David Montgomery.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, absolutely, yes, that's great.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
That he's still like a running back career player.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
N fourteen Sneaky picking fantasy to for everybody listening.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Beast doesn't catch a lot of balls.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You don't need to. You can run the rock with them, you.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
If you're playing PPR league.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I had him last year.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
He was nice, going crazy.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
He's going crazy. Yes, after a week one of the
season last year, I was dealt with him. I had
him over. He was he was point five. What do
you catch it?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Dad?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I needed him?

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Why I need him catch it?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Because that's what I bet on.

Speaker 7 (33:19):
Oh you're betting. We don't do that. I'm talking about that.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
But I'm bringing this.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Do you play Fantasy?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
No? I do not.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
You can play.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
You can play fantasy. I don't play though.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Okay, I'm sorry that Michigan stuff really bothered you. Huh
about that Michigan stuff. It's all right, dude, go blue
and we appreciate you so much for coming on love
Senior success.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Appreciate it amazing.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Check those dms Brown there you guys.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
A matter of fact of the game September twenty first, yeah, Taylor,
you should go on the same Brown pod that week after.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
If you guys want to talk, we can talk. Absolutely
you sure, well come correct, you better come correct. What
are you talking about? I have the twenty twenty four
national champs on my back.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
You are the the team last year? Are you part?
Were you part of the team?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
No, but I am.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
I was just wondering, would you would you win at
the USC what do we win?

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Well?

Speaker 7 (34:11):
Yeah, how did you guys have? Okay, I was just wondering,
that's for sure. Ready just got us back to Yeah great.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I mean you guys in two thousands for real, that's
the team to go to. But it's the twenties.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
It's fine.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I don't want to do this.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
I think you don't want to do it. We don't
want to do this like Michigan.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
See you on your podcast the week.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
Of September twenty first is Saturday that week. Three days
after that, the twenty fourth, we'll see you all right. Okay,
there we go. We got one done.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Right before you leave?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Top three Locker room guys in Detroit.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Locker room guys.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
What like locker room vibes?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Do?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Who you get it when?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
After practice, before whatever, you're excited to go in lockerwoy Man.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Graham Glassow is awesome. He's got a touch at the
table of it.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
He was awesome.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
I'm going Jamar Jefferson, Okay, I love running backs. But
he's Gonna'm gonna take Jamar Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Who's that?

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Khalif Raymond? Mmmm? What else is next to me? Vibes
Kirby Joseph.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I love it. Friendships just got divided. If the boys
listen to this pod.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
No question. We appreciate you coming on. Thank you, enjoy camp.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
You're the man. Thank you?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Are you rolling right now? Some people might not know
you for is that you're a fan of beer Games
Championship with the World.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
I heard yeah, yeah, Well, as soon as I heard
my teammate Graham Glasgow was participating, I had to. I
had to check you in this. See how it went?

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I heard you want a bid for toy twenty five?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Are you in?

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (35:43):
I have to check my calendar.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
You don't know the date soon?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
There's no Hey, but it's smart that he says, check
the calendar.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
That happened and if I if I'm off and I
have time, I'd like a bid.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
How do you think you'd fare in this that type
of situation?

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Not great? I'm an okay beer drinker. I'm not like
a like an All star, but I'd have fun. I
did like a good teammate. Your best let me let
me and Graham show up. We might do some damage.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You definitely should get an old lignement, right, they all
they all performed very well.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
I'm good at flip cup. I can do beer pong,
like the chugging thing. I'd get smoked, but I'd do it,
but I get smoked.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
What do you think you could put how fast you
think you can put down? Thirty two? Thirty six?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah, I saw you guys doing that. What'd you do
in like five six seconds?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I probably I don't know, twelve
to fifteen, twenty seconds, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'm in the same category. You're in the same tier. Yeah,
thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Honestly, hearing this like lack of confidence. I don't think
youre smoking hi, because you get better every year.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
You look like the type of guy who can just
like kind of open your throat and that thing.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Just just let it write to your stomach. Yes, absolutely,
it's it's been a gift my whole entire life.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
It's been a special good for you. Yeah, it was
fun when and when Graham texted me and said that
you were you were interested in doing it. I looked
at my phone. I was so excited and then I
didn't text him back at all.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
And so he actually just called me out of it
after practice today.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
Yeah. Yeah, he's sensitive.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
He's a sensitive boy.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
He's very sensitive.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
He is.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
But the best part about Graham is he's consistently himself
through every situation, doesn't change.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
He's one of my favorite teammates of all time. And
don't tell him I said that, but yeah, he's one
of my favorite teams if you were.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
To give me off the top of your head, not
putting a whole lot of thought too it. So we
have an insurance policy, what would be your top three
teammates of all time?

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Of all time?

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Because you've had You've had some good teammates.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
I mean, I'm gonna lean towards like the funniest guys
I've been around. In Graham's one of them. Graham's one
of them, probably like Taevon Austin used to kill me.
I was with him for a couple of years in
La Shoot favorite. I mean, that's hard. I know Tevon

(37:42):
was funny as hell. I love Tavan, so I'll put
him as two or three. And then you know, David
Montgomery makes me laugh a lot here.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, is he jokes are on the team.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah, he's hilarious. He's funny, but like very subtle humor
and really funny.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Should we ask him what we asked and a no
about coach Campbell?

Speaker 7 (38:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
He's such a beloved character. Everybody is a beloved or
beloved beloved. Everybody loves him any clip. You see, he's
a football guy through and through. We asked, what is
your biggest pet peeve with him?

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Oh gosh, you know, I'll just I'll tow the company
line here, just how consistent he is.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Meetings.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
He'll get long winded, pauls and take a break for
like a minute, three minutes long.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
Sure, that's a good answer. That's a better answer that
I gave. He's just so dank consistent. He's hard to
keep up with.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You know, we're not going to get anything out of him.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
That is tough. That's a great, perpleically correct answer.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Yeah, it's true. But yeah, I wish I had something better.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
What I want to I definitely want to dive into
like obviously l a coming here and then the playoff
game you guys had, but like starting with the fan bases. Yeah,
what is the biggest difference you know this from like
this Midwest fan base compared to that West Coast fan base.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah, it's entirely different. Obviously, you played at Michigan, so
you have a little bit of a feel for it.
Like the people around here just live, breathe, die football,
And in LA there's just a lot of things to
do that aren't football, and whether it's other sports or
the beach or you know, going to dinner, a million things.
But around here, man, it's football. And we got the
whole state is Lions fans in California. Obviously there's a

(39:23):
bunch of teams, so it's entirely different, and it's a
lot of fun to playball do.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
What was the ride like when you guys are bringing
that division title here?

Speaker 6 (39:31):
Fun?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Fun, really fun.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
It really started in like twenty twenty two and we
were able to like kind of turn it around a
little bit. We had that Thanksgiving game at home against
the Bills. It's kind of when I first saw the
stadium kind of flip and like, oh, this is what
it could be like if we kept winning and kept
making plays, and we did through that year and then
obviously last year. It's been insane. It's been so fun.
The stadium has got to be one of a lot

(39:52):
of stadiums.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
In the league now.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
And how much they care and how much they bring
it's fun.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It felt like basically everybody was rooting for you guys,
especially when you won the division. Town you saw the
stadium's reaction. Yeah, I feel like everybody else around the
country was buying into the Lions.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Yeah, dude, it felt good. I wouldn't have known until
the offseason, had a lot of people being like, hey man,
my team was out of it. So I was rude
for you guys. All right, thanks, but yeah, our fans
deserve it.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Man.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
They've been through a lot here and we were able
to give him a little slice of joy last year
and weren't able to finish it off like we wanted to.
But it was a it was a fun ride.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
They mean to the playing the Rams in the playoffs,
first meeting Stafford's coming back. He's getting booed in the building.
It's essentially to get back game for both of you guys.
Because everyone who goes places for a team and they
leave go somewhere else. Ben Jones is always the guy
comes to mind he played for the Texans, came to
the Titans, and every time we played the Texans, it
just meant a little bit more Like what was that

(40:45):
weak like for you leading up to that with everything
on the line.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
It was certainly there was emotions with it, and that
was the battle for me was to kind of fight
those and focus on what was important and winning the game.
And that became easy really when I just thought about
like what that game meant to this city, kind of
what we had just talked about in these fans. Like,
sure it was important for me and there was a
lot of storylines for myself, but these guys you know
around here that that we hadn't won a playoff game

(41:10):
in thirty something years, it was so much bigger than me,
and that was easy for me to like focus on
that instead and take a lot of the you know, uh,
pressure or whatever off off of my performance in the
game and just go out there and play.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Does that kind of happen like once you just kind
of complete your first pass and get into it. It did,
because I would assume.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Yeah, pregame was weird and like like the channing and
like all that, there was like a lot of stuff
going on, and like, you know, I've seen a lot
of my former teammates and a lot of my good friends,
former coaches, and you know you're gonna see them, but
like until you see them and have those moments, you're like,
all right, I gotta go through that and see these guys.
And but yeah, once the first snap and through the
first completion, it was, it was all go from there.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
What was the feeling like being traded in the situation?
I mean, you took the ramps to the Super Bowl,
you gus had a lot of success and then they're
essentially the lines are giving up Stafford and they're they're
taking you. How is what was your like thought process
going it? Was there a morning process at all?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, yeah, there was.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
It was.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
It was certainly a shock at first. You know, there
wasn't much conversation Ad with me, and I've I've told
this story one hundred times, but there there was just
no true communication. And there's been a lot of a
lot of talk since then, which has mended some of that,
but there wasn't much communication. So it came as a shock.

(42:22):
And then you know, as soon as as soon as
I talked to Brad and Dan, which was that night.
It flipped very quickly into like, Wow, what an opportunity
I have here to be on the ground floor of
something so special and something that could be you know what.
We hope to build this into, which a super Bowl
champ and we feel like we've had some success and
done a lot of that. But the opportunity piece that

(42:43):
quickly came in after talking to those guys, uh, completely
changed my mentality.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You know, I was just gonna say, it always sucks
when you you've you finally taste like the teeth of
the business. It almost does a metteral level like you're
you were a high paid quarterback for LA. They were
born into you. Like even being a lower tier guy
not getting resigned by your team. There's always like, once
you taste it or you get cut and you rise,
how much of a business it is and how much
lack of conversation actually happened kind of like you're kind

(43:09):
of like shunned by it.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
I think it's made me uh less naive, you know.
I think I think when I was younger, like it
was like, oh, they love me. You know, we signed
the extension. You know, here we go, We're going to
be together for fifteen years and everyone thinks that right,
and and you know eventually that that changes. And I
think it's a lot of my perspective to be much
better on what it is. And the relationships are important
and you and it is family and you love your guys.

(43:32):
But the end of the day, you do know that
there are powers that be that will do what is
in their in their minds best for the team.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yeah, with one thing I've noticed being at this facility
and during practice, a lot of people are saying super Bowl,
super Bowl, super Bowl and usually a team that has
a success successful, what you did, it's all, but like
everyone's kind of afraid to say you want to win
a championship. What makes it so easy in this building
to make it so like freely said, because a.

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Lot of times yeah, I know, I know. You mean,
we tasted it last year. I think last year, before
we had won our first playoff game in thirty years,
there was like, hey, we need to get into the
playoffs and win the playoff game, which was absolutely the
goal last year and it's still the goal now. But
I think with that being said, we do know we
are capable of more, you know, and we'll be extremely

(44:17):
disappointed if we're unable to accomplish either of those goals.
But it is win the division, getting the dance, win
a playoff game, you know, certainly control your home destiny,
and then win a super Bowl. And we're not afraid
to say that, like you said, And I think it's
because you know, we did taste it last year. We
were right there, we had we had played a good
game against San Francisco. They played just a little bit better,
and we're able to beat us.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Let's just say, hypothetically speaking, you guys haven't tasted the
playoffs for thirty years, right last year, Let's just say
you get in the first round of the playoffs and
you guys won the division, but you lose the first
round of the playoffs. Are you still saying, hey, successful
season like we've last year, key off of our back? Yeah, like, no,
you're not thinking.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
That, gosh, No, No, it was winning a playoff game.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Winning a playoff game.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
Yeah, they had been to the playoffs here in the
last I don't know how many years when it was
the last time, but since I've been here, we hadn't been.
But we it was winning a playoff game. And be sure,
we were able to get that monkey off our back.
But once we, you know, won that first playoff game,
it was like, let's go win the super Bowl, and
that was our goal for those next following three weeks,
and we came up short and and so then the
last six months has been let's go win a super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Would you uh, would you cut your dig off for
a super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (45:24):
Man?

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Hard?

Speaker 6 (45:27):
I you know, I I know that's what very Well
said he would do. I'd like to. I'd like to
think that I have enough ability to do it without
doing that. I had the belief in myself that I
don't have to do that. So I'm going to say no,
because I'm going to do it without having to do that.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Well said. Well said, how about a pinky toe?

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Oh, I don't know if I'd be able to. I
want to be able to play after that, like a
super Bowl. No, cause again, like I got my pinky toe,
I can I can win. I can win a few more.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, modern medicine technology.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
Sew it back on. If I can sew it back on,
can I sew it back on?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (46:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (46:05):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
All right?

Speaker 6 (46:06):
Now I keep playing and I'll go hopefully win more.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I love that. Those are my questions. That's all you have,
That's all I have.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
I'm sewing the pinky toe back on just to be
you're sing the pink yeah not not not the other deal.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
I don't know how familiar with Bustle Boys, but we
have segments, and a segment is called shout out, no
free shout out, and usually it's just like the simple
pleasures in life, like uh, you know, someone brought up
a good one the other day. It was like at
school and it's the cold water fountain, right, that's a
shout out, no free shout. But we're gonna a little
more specific because we are training camp, so I want
to hear shout out no free shout outs to like
little pleasures of training camp. We can go first, break

(46:39):
the ice.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
A little bit.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
But I wanted you to thought about it today. Did
you really sorry if this? And this is so on
the nose for busting with the boys, but like the downtime,
the in between meetings, like coaches are watching film, we're
down where you either eating lunch or we're just doing nothing,
just hanging like with the boys. And I know it's
like so on the nose, but like today, earlier we

(47:01):
had it. You know, a half hour to kill in
the quarterback room, just kind of hanging talking, chat and
doing nothing, and that those are the best times.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
I think camaraderie can't beat camaraderie.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
Can't beat it, and this is when it's built. And
I do think Dan is aware of that and knows
we have downtime and hopes we're building that camaraderie.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I'm gonna say, when you get a surprise uh practice
off the entire team, like you do, you do the
morning practice and they cancel walks through in the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
We have yet to have that.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
And I'm not just started.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
You guys just started.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Oh You've yet to have.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
It since since I've been a Lion.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
So I don't think that's in the cards for us.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
But just know that players love players do love it
when you practice in the morning and then they cancel
walks through in the afternoon. Just for anybody Coach Campbell listening.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah, that is a hell of a one. I have two,
and I hate to be an attention horror.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
One is.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
One is rookie antics in the sense that like you
get into the dog days a camp and then in
the morning you and a veteran kind of hit a
rookie with hey, I heard today's movie day, I can't
just go to be canceled. And then you kind of
just plant that seed and then slowly but surely, during
like wall the team meetings taking place before practice, there
becomes like a hey you here, someone will come to

(48:10):
if you hear them. I have a movie today, and
just watching that rumor spread knowing good and well that's
not gonna happen, but kind of just ruined the teams
entire practice. That is fun and.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I enjoyed like ruining stuff this morning.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
You were a fun joke. It's a fun joke.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
You were start a fight on purpose, try to get
practice canceled.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
No joint practice personally joint practice. There's been a couple
of you kind of a couple of pushing shoves and
you're just hoping that things get so out of hand
that they're like, we're done. We're guys in the weight room.
Get a pump and you're like, yeah, that's really gonna
hurt my feelings a pump right now. My other shout
out is cloud coverage. We've had any time you get
outside and it's dog days, you're in the high eighties

(48:49):
and then all of a sudden, clouds just start rolling
through and that you have a nice breeze during practice
Like that is a godsend.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
We've had two of those in a row now and
it's been we don't we're not counting on them. There
it's coming. The humidity is coming. But we've had two
good ones.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
The weather that's today perfect, spoiled.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
The first cold water on a hot day. I love.
We're just doing the little luxuries.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Yeah, let's keep it going. What's that the salt? Oh yeah,
I think it's a fun prank that kind of lives.
And I'm a nasty boy, but when you're.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
At a Taylor's.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
We were at breakfast today and Taylor like unscrewed the
salt to leave it for the next person was but
not for any of the boys, like any of the friends.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
It was just for whoever was going to show up
next to in our chafter.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
No, No, that would have been funny to Yeah, that would
have seen your laughing.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, yeah, because you're around training camp, like you're around
the fellas. But we're talking just you know another family.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
That Oh no, that's not good. No, you framed it. No,
it's funny if you're just doing it. If you're just
doing it like to leave some chaos behind you, that's
not cool. Well if you're doing it to your buddy,
yeah that's great.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's how we were explaining it. No, you
guys are right, but it reminded me because it's like
the same same thing.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
I almost say it to you.

Speaker 7 (50:04):
At lunch.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
With what though to catch up?

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Could have been that JP and I are in the
corner kind of talking about the salt thing, and then
everyone was so angry. I thought it's gonna ruin everything.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Shoutowt, no free, shout out.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
When you get a small enough injury that you know
it's not that bad, but you get to miss a
day of practice.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Hey, is that not I've never had one of those,
but yeah, I can see I can see.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
That quarterback to where the jersey they get to wear
the jersey.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
I can see that being up your alley.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Shout out, no free, shout out. Coach pulling you to
the side and being like, we're gonna temple a couple
of reps for you today.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Shoutowt.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
If we shout out, you're in the preseason game, you
think you're playing and coach like, hey, take your that's.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
The best one. That is the best like a surprise way. Yes, God, dude,
shoutowt know ifree, shout out. When you're done playing in
a preseason game and the boys have the pads up
and you're eating the seeds and you have the best
seats in the house.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
But you kind of have to sneak it because you
don't disrespect what's happening out there.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
No, you're just you're chat with the boys and you're
watching the bucket hat on the guys.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
For sure, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
When that guy comes. You just got to get a
little more vertical. You're fine.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
The home preseason game at one o'clock is a good one. Yes,
the home we have one of those this year. I
think it's the last one. That's the good one.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Hot dogs at halftime, yeah, I across the bulls.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
You're not hot dog guys.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
I mean, I don't want to Lizzy, you know, I
like dogs like Lizzies. I'm not trying to be disrespectful
like all the guys.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
That's why you go in the equipment ring halftime.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You go back to you're hiding it and it's gone.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Yeah, were you doing that.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
What do you mean you're about to I want to
know what he means by the question. He could be
meaning like, did you get off time during your preseason game?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Is that what you meant? Motherfucker did?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, I had a couple of years there. Well I
didn't get in some preseason games.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Now I do like the hot dogs, the equipment guys
hook you up. It's nice.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah, man, hey, why col h Well, I grew.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Up in the Bay.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Did nobody else offer you?

Speaker 6 (52:05):
I only had three offers state It was Cal it
was Fresno State and Boise State at four in Washington State,
and both my parents went to Cal. So I grew
up a Cal fan, and yeah, I was kind of
the only option I had that was good academics, I guess.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, that's way to put it.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Were you like a small link your kid that just
didn't have the Yeah, yeah I was.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I was.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
I was like shit, I was like one hundred and
eighty five pounds, played as a true freshman there and
was like so skinny.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, great place. Berkeley is awesome.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
It is cool.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Never been gorgeous out there, never.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Been Golden Bears. Yeah, there you go, extinct acc col
Bears they're in the ACC.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Now, Yeah, are they really triving to play Miami in
North Carolina?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
That kind of sucks, right, It's a lot of flying.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
It's a lot of flying.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
It's a lot of flying.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Tough you guys, You guys just get to stick in
the big ten and just keep on rolling off. All
these other guys had the move.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
When you run the country, brother, you do what you want.

Speaker 7 (52:58):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Speaking up.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
You're in a state that's very divided from a college standpoint.
Who do you side with Michigan State?

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Michigan? Yeah No, And that was not just because you're
sitting here. Yeah, And it's just because where I live
in nearby here, it's a lot of a lot of
Michigan alum. Yeah, And so I don't I really don't
know many Michigan State alum.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
There's not a whole bunch of them.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
Will be honest with you, they don't. They don't graduate.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Have you usually drop out?

Speaker 6 (53:23):
You got a relationship with Eminem I've I've I've met
him once here at practice and then saw him at
the draft night and that's about it. But yeah, he's
been great to me.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
You're more of a kid rock guy.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Yeah, kid's great.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Kid's great. I don't have it.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
I've uh, I have a similar relationship with both of them.
I've chatted a couple of Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
No, have you listened to the new album em m YEA. Yeah,
I think it's a good favorite song.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
I think it's called bad Bad one, Yeah, bad one,
Yeah that one.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, that's a good one. Solid real quick.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
That skit you did with those uh simming pro kids.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah we're getting the fingers. Just say we get this one,
we get this one off, Yeah, we get this one.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
We're good, Yeah, we get this one.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
How hard was it for you to buy into that
and not just tell everybody that they was some professional
football player?

Speaker 6 (54:14):
Yeah, dude, it was crazy, like they the whole week,
they had set cameras there to try to like tell
them they were on like some sort of last chance
to you, I guess, And so it was. It was
they were fake cameras. So then when I showed up,
it wasn't like all of a sudden there was cameras
and yeah, I get there, and I thought, to be honest,
I thought like it was gonna get sniffed out quicker.
But I had a bunch of like stuff on my face,
and a couple of kids did like kind of figure

(54:37):
it out pretty quickly, but most of them didn't. And
and the best was messing around with the quarterbacks because
that's kind of like the comments that I was giving
them is comments I've received, Yeah, are you the punter?
Like are you oh, you know, that's why they brought
me here, like from like transfers or whatnot. Yeah, And
so it was really easy to act out because it
was all stuff I've kind of experienced, and it was funny,
it was it was good.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
It was an elite.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
It was an elite. You did a good job. Thank
you did a very nice We appreciate you coming on.
I know we're getting we're getting the fingers.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
We're getting the finger Just let you know you are
on the radar to make to make the team this year.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
At the end of the yak, you know what's coming.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (55:10):
Yeah, it's fun the.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
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