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Speaker 3 (00:44):
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(01:51):
Big guests today, Drew Brees, Zach Bond, We'll get to
those in a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Former teammate, former teammate. If you're yeah, yeah, talk to
me about your time, Drew, We rock for good. We
had a strong ten days.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, there's a couple of times after practice I'll go
trying to make some conversation with him. He's taking some
business calls. We'll catch you later. Yeah, we'll talk shop later.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
But the effort was put in there.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, effort was put in there. Yeah. Yeah. We
enjoyed some hot a couple of hot tub moments I
had with him and taste. I'm thinking, Drew Brees, you're
in there. Got a couple of laughs. One of the
one of the days they were talking about or we
were talking about how Taysom Hill could squat like over
six hundred pounds, which is, did you insane? I I

(02:35):
haven't got see it because we were in we were
in we were in training camp. You know, Brian back
into training camp too.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
But everybody was talking about how Taysom Hill could squad
over six hundred punds And I'm sitting there like that
is that is insane for him, all the positions he plays.
JP said it maybe the greatest athlete, maybe the greatest
football player, pure football player of all time. Uh, but
the squad over six hundred pounds is ridiculous, disgusting.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, and this is the origin story these ten days
is when your back started.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Correct, No, my back started Raiders. That was later that
year year.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
So you're sitting there at the time thinking, man, I
just put some win on my back to take some hill.
If you can do six, I can at least three hundred.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah. I could get three hundred at that time, easy.
Maybe four? Yeah, I could get four.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
If you're if you were going and you did a
full warm up, core engage the whole thing Dobson would
do with the legs. How much do you think you
could squat.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Right now today? Oh, I wouldn't. Okay, hypothetically, I'm saying
I wouldn't, like I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, because your back would be fucked up the next day.
I'm saying, like, totally warmed up, hypothetical, what can your
legs handle today?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Once?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Ten times?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Bro Like, my back hurts when there's a bar on
my back, Like I it doesn't matter how warmed up
I get. There is pain in my low back when
there's a bar on my shoulders.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Okay, I'm sorry for asking the question.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
You kept trying to reward it like I'm just supersing
no matter what different world it hurts. I'm a goblet squader.
I hold a dumb bell in front of my chest.
Hell yeah, seventy pounds.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh see, big dog stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah? Some would yeah, some could say big dogs. Some
could say like, man, he's really fell off because in
Nebraska I was over five hundred. I was an over
five hundred guy.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now we are shooting the Bus with the Boys episode
before we'd their weekend recap, so we're not really into
the whole Nebraska. I think we haven't got your thoughts
on it. Should we wait?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
No, it's just a weekend recap. We're gonna wait for
people out here that are listening right now. Obviously, my
weekend kicked off with the Nebraska el on Friday night.
You can check all that stuff out. We covered it
on the football recap show that came out yesterday. We
talked all things football on the recap show that drops
on Mondays. Here we're here for some more fun, get
some good interviews, talk some spooky stuff, catch up in
the old Chad Powers, maybe some shout out, no free shoutouts,

(04:53):
some pet peeves feel has been begging for those segments
to come back. The tier talk we have going on.
But yeah, how was let's start off. Let's go ahead
and start. You wanna start with my weekend? Your weekend?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
What do we go ahead? Youre already talking.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Listen. We all saw what happened Friday night. We talked
about that yesterday, and.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
We're gonna talk about it again.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
There we go again. We ain't gotta talking about it.
We're all eyes on Northwestern and.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
We'll say this too, could be a positive long term
for Nebraska.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah right, I'm thinking about Northwestern, got you so.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
For us on this bus that's not thinking about Northwestern
could be a positive. But time about the weekend, dude,
Vanda game fans.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Great, it was a It was a great weekend. Weirdly, weird, fun, great,
all mixed together. Saturday, we went to uh myself, Charrow
and Rue. We went to the Vandy game. We went
to the Fall Don't Light Tour with Josh pat They
were out there at Vanderbilt for Vandy LSU and I
told you, guys, I said this yesterday, but I've been
I've been telling everybody that LSU was a bunch of frauds.

(05:55):
And we got to see it in person. We got
to see it in real time. Cad McConnell. That clip
of Cad mcconne going around where he body bags a
couple of guys.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
But we had a lot of fun. Got to meet
Josh Pate's wife, Savannah, just a wonderful person. Had a
lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Rue.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
She's still out on mascots, doesn't fuck with him and
Tiger tried coming up and messing with her. I'm like, hey,
are their pay of little stuffed animals a tiger? She
calls him Tiger and I'm like, hey, Tiger, there's there's
Tiger's big brother right there, Like he wants a high five.
And stuff like that, and Rude's stoneface like just like
you know, slowly looks over at me like that, what
am I supposed to do here? I'm like, hey, she
ain't about it, She ain't about the Yeah, she's not

(06:30):
about the mascots situat Yeah, yeah, you want to get
my high five, you know how you're like demonstrating it
in front of her, like, hey, he's good people, She's
not having it. Wasn't about it, And that.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Is one of my kid's fault, that your child has
that fear.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Ye, yeah, yeah, she's scared of masks. She's scared of mascots,
like anything that's a little too big or demonstrative. She's
not about it. The Michael Myers is really what tipped
her over sideways on finding that mask back in the
closet and then yeah, and just popping up in front
of her face with the mask.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
How to train your dragon masks? It just gets in
her face and starts pushing it around. It was over.
It was over from that moment. And yeah, we're will
and I are sending the bean bags. I'm just like
gotta feel guilty. My child. Ain't nothing you can do,
but yeah, being kids, right, when's done it to her sister,
she kind of just takes it in. We're all about

(07:23):
the spookiness in this household. But go ahead.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
We had a We had a great day at Vanderbilt.
Shout out to staff at Vanderbilt. They did a great
job hosting us. We had all some seats, we had
some pre game field passes. Sunday, Bill Compton is now married.
My dad got married, So we made a we made
a trip out there. Saturday night. We had a stream.
This was on Sunday, Saturday night. We had a stream Tennessee, Alabama.
I'm sure we'll get into that once we get the

(07:46):
boys involved. But Sunday flew out. Old man got married.
Uh so got to make it, you know, got to
go out there Old Farmington, bond Ter, Missouri, see some
friendly faces, some some familiar faces, and then we flew back.
Puked on the plane. That was abysmal. I'm talking Team
America Exorcism style. Oh shit, I almost started puking. It smelled, yeah,

(08:09):
it was. She she she like she was like leaning
back and then she puked on herself and we're like
it's okay, and then she just starts puking in the
middle and it's everywhere. Yeah, you know, Charles trying to
say it's all right, sweetheart, I'm going, oh my.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
God, this is a couple's retreat. When Vince Bond's with
this kid and he poops in the toilet and he goes,
we don't got to say nothing to the flight attendant.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
We know this was a bad deal. Yeah, this one
smells everywhere. It's brutal. Fly back that day and then
take the wife. We go to Dermot Kennedy concert. Any
Dermot Kennedy fans on this bus. I know of him,
great artist. Oh hang on, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
One of the first times we met, you were like,
of course you're trying to clown on me and you
were playing your music. He were like, I bet this
is the type of shit you like. And you turned
on Durmke Kennedy.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
He stays on the playlist.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
He's good.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Charles was obsessed with Dermot Kennedy. I've always liked her
mott and getting to watch him in person, it was
it was all time, very powerful, very powerful voice. At
the Riemann he started to do some uh you know
where they'll like take the mic away and he's just
singing to the crowd, like both of the artists, the
guy who covered for him halfway are then not the
guy who went out who opened for him, not covered

(09:21):
for him, open for him. Both of them did. Like
the acoustic version where they're singing to the crowd, very intimate.
It was awesome. He's awesome. Dermot Kennedy was awesome and
so yeah, very jam packed weekend, very fun weekend all
in all, four point five nice. Yeah, all right, not bad, ye,
not bad.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
My weekend phenomenal. Well, obviously we do the stream Thursday
night wake up. Early last year before the Northwestern game,
I took a win to a Michion game, her first
Mission game. We did the whole thing like it's a
it's a true brainwashing experience when you do with your children,
because it's like you land, there's no nose on the weekend,
it's you want candy, go ahead, Yes, we go to Benny's.

(10:02):
Benny's there. He's like Albanian or something, but he's all
about letting the kids do. He's like got the kids
in the back room, like making their own pancakes, making
their own hot chocolate. He's just bringing out food over
and over again. He's bringing out like shots of like
scotch that he's got in the back. It's like, this
is a diner, Denny, Like, Benny, what are we doing?
So the same thing takes place this weekend. Willow is

(10:24):
juiced up, like five six days before. I'm showing her
all the things we're gonna do. I'm pulling up photos
of the m Den, I'm pulling up photos of the
diag all that, like the central campus area. And she's like,
can't sleep two nights before, can't sleep the night before
we get on the plane. She's fired up, just me
and her and we land. Dave was essentially our chauffeur
for the entire weekend. We go in the first place

(10:45):
we go to is Benny's. Get right there, you guys
all been there. We go around the corner, Yeah, sitting
that back booth. Benny's got Willow making her own hot
hot chocolate. He brings out pancakes, brings out hot dogs,
brings out this little cheese plate that he sets on
fire in front of Willow like it's a five star
Michelin Michelin star restaurant and it was awesome. Will stuffs

(11:05):
her face. Then we go to vm Den and Willow
was when I'm looking at Sugar the Mden photos earlier
in the week, she sees a cheerleading outfit and she
is gassed up on the cheerleading off it. She like
she wants it, she needs it as bad as she
wants to breathe. So we get there. They don't have
her size, and it's like We've gotten the stuffed animals.
We got Mama mug, we got Sissia mug, we got

(11:27):
key chains, we got the whole thing, like everything's Michigan
Wolf Rain. But if we don't get this fucking cheerleading outfit,
essentially this weekend is ruined. We go in the back,
some guy helps us out, We sift through, we find
this seven and eight. We get this onesie dress thing
that is that is like the cheerleading off it. She
is over the moon immediately as soon as we buy it.
Can I wear it? Can I wear? It's like, let's

(11:47):
just wait till tomorrow because it's kind of chilling. I'm thinking,
I don't think. I don't think Willow is gonna be
able to wear this during the game and not be freezing.
Turns out of a seventy five degrees. It was absolutely beautiful.
After that, Pat Collin, friend of us. We go to
his house, do s'mores, We do a little bonfire. We
got spooky stuff everywhere. We got seasonal beverages, very nice, intimate,

(12:09):
like spooky, his wife, both kids, Willow, it was awesome,
bags of candy. And then the next day get the
outfit on. I'm looking at the weather. It's like, all right,
it's gonna be good. Willow does not care about watching
the football game at all, could not care less. We're
on the sideline. She's asked me where the cheerleaders? Like
when are the cheerleaders gonna be here?

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Gotta go get the flame?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, got and so we got a bunch of photos.
First cheerleaders pop up. I'm like, guys, can you please
take a photo of my daughter? They give her the
pom poms. They're very sweet to her. Willow is grinning
ear to ear on it. And as we're going around
to get our seats, some Stafford, because Willow's under eighteen,
obviously like, hey, she can't be down here if she's
under eighteen. So we near your seats. While we're going there,
Stafford sees some more cheerleaders. Willows like, we're not going

(12:50):
anywhere to get photos with these guys as well, get
the photo done, get up in the stands. We end
up sitting in like gen pop area, which is the
view is nice because we're like twenty five rows back
so I can see the whole field. I can see
what kind of personnel we're in. I'm like dialed in.
Problem is a lot of people want to get photos,
want to talk about anything other than Michigan football that's

(13:14):
going on, anything else with Will there, with Willow there,
They're trying to get photos. I'm like, a right, will
you stand by grandpa.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
For a second. People were like you know what I mean,
like kind of see, kind of be like, hey, just
quick photo. I expect what you do.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And with eighty percent of the people were very aware
of well, hey, I know you're.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
With your family.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
You might if I get a quick photo and I
get the quick photo, They're like, so man, espn huh yeah, man,
it's sick. We have a lot of fun and we
go to the expert. So, man, how's will doing? Is
he dead? It's like, yeah, I think I think he's
gonna be like text him last night. He didn't text
me back, but I know that's the sad right now,
you know, so like those are the conversations taking place.
Then it's like I'm sitting in these stands and I'm

(13:52):
trying to watch a football game. Will it wants a pretzel? Great,
we'll get a pretzel. Will it wants popcorn? Grandpa will
take you to get some popcorn. Well, like you guys
will dial it in. Finally, I sit there and I
think my phone. I'm like, you want to play some
you want to look at Addy's photos on this camera?
And I had to give her. I had to put
the phone on her so I could watch the game.
Look back at these this older couple. I'm like, this
is great parenting, am I right? They're like anyway to

(14:12):
get it done. And we watched the game the first half.
I mean we broke it all down in the weekend recap,
but overall four point five man Sunday, Yeah, Sunday, I
get home. We get home Saturday night. Do we do
this stream Sunday? Tayling has a for nature nurture. She
has like this farmer's market and she takes the kids
does like you know, child labor laws. We probably get

(14:34):
see an s called on us. She has them audishing
out seeds to everybody, and the kids sold like two
hundred dollars in seeds, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, they'd Taylor texted me.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
She's like, I just told the kids to take these
seeds and ask people to buy them, and it worked.
Sold out, sold out of the seeds. So shout out
Tailing and her business savvy.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, we're not really selling any seeds. You know what,
we got to activate the kid out right, We activated
get out there, started going go ask go ass adults
to buy them. They won't say know to.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You, dude. When I was eight, my mom used to
work at this place called Harold's in Cave Creek and
she wanted to teach me the value of a dollar.
So I bust boyed with her for a day, made
like two hundred dollars, and that day just sat there
and talked to the older people. So in the middle
of winter, so all the snowbirds were there. Didn't understand
the value. After that, I was like, eat money's easy.
Money's a joke, dude. This is the easiest thing in
the world to get eight years old. My homes like,

(15:21):
god damn it, but yeah, man, awesome weekend next weekend.
First time ever kids are going to disney World. That'd
be fine gooing at disney World.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Next Fast Spookie season.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, we're doing the same thing we did at the
We got the tour guide for the like at the
Pro Bowl, where it's like they kind of you get
to hop there's like the fast past above the fast past,
that's above the fast pass thing. And then we got
Mickey Mouse's Not So Spooky Halloween kids are I'm so excited.
I might be more excited than them. They don't understand
what they're about to see. It's gonna be awesome. So
action packs, spooktober Core, Memory Weekend Loading, Yes, absolutely. Two

(15:56):
For Willow in a row, we're getting on the plane
to go back. She's like, when can we come back
to Michigan and then she keeps saying this bullshit to me. Honest,
it's a miracle Michigan one.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
She's I just can't believe we won. I'm like, all right, Willo.
But we get home and win. Wanted to rewatch the game,
the highlights, so we put it up on the YouTube
TV like kids are dialed right now.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
The Yeah, we're definitely brainwashing the shit out of him
right now. It's all Yeah, it's going exactly how he want. Sure,
it's going exactly how you want.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, I might have to make I just until the
opportunity comes, like rude. Now has been two years in
a row to Vandy games, Vandy dubbs. Wait was it
a double last year against Texas? Close loss? That's right?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Competitive ball games in Vandy. Ye, yeah, diego Pavia. Her
favorite player, Kate McConnell.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, Kate McConnell, for sure.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Kate.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
I hated you know, I know he listens to all
of our stuff, so I know he's listening right now.
But we were bummed we didn't get a flick. I
was in on the end zone side, but it was
LSU and we kind of got there fifteen minutes before
the game. Send me up after. He's like, bro, I
literally He's like, I looked everywhere and I couldn't find you,
and I I kind of told him. He said, they
told me you were going to be on the newly
renovated in. I was like, no, I was on the

(17:09):
OG and he's like, I probably looked like an insane
person going around. He's like, after we won the game
where we like scored a touch on. He's like, I'm
going up and looking around everywhere to see if we
can I can find you because I knew you were
bringing the fan.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Damn I know.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I said, don't worry, we'll come to another game.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
We got to get to his face, well about what
going to another game? Well, we can probably make another game.
They got a couple, they got some more. They got
a game day this weekend. One of my best friends,
Brad Lebron. You guys know the Biscuit, He's getting married.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, shout out Brad.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
But also but also yeah, football season wedding and it's
on Sunday, and it's in New York. Yes, listen, it's
his day. They should be selfish. But what a selfish
prick move.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I feel like you've been screwed on a lot of
Sunday weddings.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yes, bro, I mean this will be two in a row. Yeah,
I'm oh, man like, hey, I listen, I get it,
but you I ain't want to come to this Sunday.
Yeah on a Sunday. I'll miss is some football right now, dude, I.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Know everyone's always talks about the weather. It's like spring
has the same thing. They got the same weather.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Is super nice. It's just in the Missouri one didn't
didn't bother me as much because it's it's close. But
New York when you're you know you're from Missouri. I
guess she's out from the northeast. But Jesus, why are
we doing it out in New York? And they got married,
they got engaged and stuff not too long ago, like
they put it together fast.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Brad lea broad you have it himself a wedding in Salem,
New York. Yeah, yeah, pretty incredible love love Brad great
got the biscuit. He he shot me a text with
love if you came. Blah blah blah. I'm not gonna
be able to make it. Disney World, Disney World, Disney World.
Will and I sat in the play and I was like,
I kind of feel bad. I'm not gonna make He
say you ain't gotta go, and he's like, pissed off
about you and gotta go. That's like one of my

(18:58):
best friends. I have to go self.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Brad Well, it was more Yeah I did say that,
but I'm also thinking, like, yeah, in your situation, I
wouldn't I wouldn't go.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I do love Brad though, and I know that, like
I know Brad's personality, and so like I just would
I know that the next time I see Brad, He's
gonna say something the next time and the next time
and the next time, and it'll follow me for a
few years. Yeah, And I just think, like, yeah, I'm
gonna have to deal with those bullets because my family
and I were gonna go to Disney World. Yeah, great guy,
I'll get him a gift. I probably won't get him
a gift, but I'll text him, Hey, congratulations on your

(19:27):
on your marriage. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Should we get into uh tear talk? Do we want
shout outs? Pet peas? Where we want to go?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Let's bring back shout out real quick.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Shout out, no free shout out, Yeah, I uh.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Do you mind? Go ahead shout out, no free shout out,
pilot Bob shout out, no free shout out. Pilots that
you think, no matter what happens, I'm safe. The pilot
we had from being a to titoborough thank you, Thank
you fly House and JJ at Flyhouse. This guy gets on.
He's old, he's probably what in the seventies. Yeah, he's

(20:00):
got over thirty thousand hours of flying. I think he
was in Vietnam.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Two tours in Vietnam, four tours in Afghanistan boom, and
he's just generational.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Flight face talks to us. He's one of those calm stoic,
like you know, older gentlemen that just like make you
feel safe no matter what we get done. We fly
in at Teeterborough, goes a little windy out there, but
now now the the risky part happens. You guys have
to drive like he just knows like flying he is
it does not matter what happens on that airplane. He's
gonna take care of business when we get back. Dude,

(20:31):
He's like, hey, glad to have you guys back. He
starts showing me his mother was a World War two
pilot who was one of the only women World War
two pilots who would take bombs and try to take
out submarines and fly like really low. She's like, she's
this is the only woman pilot to do this, like
Medal of honor type stuff like it was. This is
as we're getting on the flight to come back to Nashville,

(20:52):
and so you sit there and I always usually fall
asleep on flights anyway, but there's always a PCU. That's
like what if? And then you're no, I'm not gonna
go there, and you go to sleep. This was one
of those things where it's at the blanket put over
my head and knocked out for pretty much your entire flight.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
You said he has thirty thousand hours.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
He said, he yeah, because I remember saying, you know,
you're an outlier three times over, and he's like.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Yeah, that's over three years of life.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Of Yeah, that's just he gets in the air. He
loves me in the air.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
You could tell what we're on ground. It's like you
see someone with their sea legs. He won't really, he didn't.
He's got air legs.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
He spent three He's like, spent three years of his
life in air, Which.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Isn't that crazy? Just crazy? Shout out no free, shout
out gushers man, Hell, yeah, you know what. Yeah, got
my hands on some red gushers yesterday. I kind of
saw him. I kind of saw him. I gave him
a pack. That's actually I think that's probably why she
ended up throwing up. But I was like, hey, rude,
this is one of the dead's favorite snacks. Back in

(21:50):
the day, we got you some gushers, go ahead, try
you out some of those so shout out, uh, shout
out gushers, shout out no free shutdow.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Would you get your hands some gushers at this wedding
were they so just on.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
The plane's nats on the plane and.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah what a plane?

Speaker 4 (22:05):
What everyone at flyhouse? You flyhouse?

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
The only way to make it like we had the
stream on Saturday night we had we were having We
don't have a childcare, so we had to take the
kids with us. If you're flying in from Nashville to
Saint Louis, it was gonna be that's an hour away
from uh where the wedding would be. The flights didn't
work on flying out the morning of without like a

(22:35):
without like a connecting flight, and it's like you got
to take both kids with you for and we needed
to get back for the Dermok Kennedy concert that we
had booked forever trying to go to London in the summer.
We just couldn't make it happen. She's actually going to
London this week with Rue on a mother daughter trip.
They're going for like five days in London. They leave.
We're recording on Monday, they leave tonight, but we were

(22:56):
going to go to London and see Dermock Kennedy in London,
And since we couldn't make that work, I'm looking on
my phone to see if he comes through Nashville. All
just so happen as he was coming to the Rhyman,
you know, at that point in the summer, he's coming
to Ryman in October. I got those tickets. Wedding thing happened.
Didn't want to break my wife's heart by being like,
we can't go to Dermot Kennedy because I was like,
we will go to Dermot Kennedy if we don't go
to London, because I was like trying not to go

(23:17):
to London for seventy two hours. I'm like, sweet, I listen, that.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Is crazy to go somewhere for seventy two hours.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I know it would be fun.
I know, just the two of us, YadA YadA, But like,
come on, we can, we can, we can do something
closer so that way we get more time at said place.
Right then spending half the time in the air, that's
sixteen hours in the air. So then when I was
in that kind of pickle, just had to make it
happen Flywers. I hit up Clump. I was like, hey,

(23:42):
can you see what can I get a couple of
quotes for like just a day trip in and out
because you know, go to the wedding. I'm pump for
my dad, but there's you know, Willie Boy's going through
his own journey with this process and everything else. I
want to get back so I can still go to
the concert. Couldn't leave that night of because we had
the stream Tennessee, Alabama, so kind of caught in a
pickle problem solved shout shut out house. That is how nice.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
It was shaky because it was very windy yesterday. We
were on a turboprop is that what it's called turbo?
A beachcraft? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So it was shaky. It
was dicey, buddy. When I Charle was down going down
like a web MD wormhole, like she was looking up
these pilots the experience, and I'm like, pilots, but it's

(24:28):
easy these pilots have. But just going down the GBT,
I'm with you, going down that snake cole of like
what's the risk? And the thirty mile an hour winds
because there were gusts. Yesterday it was raining and gusts
were happening in Nashville. A lot of wind and gusts
in Missouri where we were going. She's like, do you
feel confident. I was like, yeah, I feel confident. We

(24:51):
took a we took a small little plane from here
to Bend. Her name snow and everything. It was snow
and everything else.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Dude that said, I might have been the same time
of year when I came to see you in Missouri
a few years back, and I was on that flight.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
And then there's that little airport. They can't you can't.
You have to take a small plane to.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
A small plane. And the dude on the way back, well,
I'm getting thrown over there, but I'm the only guy
on the plane. I'm like, this is exactly when people die. Yeah,
this is on one hundred percent when people go down. Yeah,
no bags, just like I gotta get back to Nashville
because I'm still playing football at the time. And the
dude looks back and gives me the thumbs up. I'm like,
I guess we're straight.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
And you look out the window and it is moving
like as we're landing in Missouri, like it's moving and
going a little sideways where I'm staying poised. But internally
I'm like, all right, because my Charles over there breathing
like all this stuff. She's like, we're taking our entire
family and we're gonna be on a small plane. She's
getting super nervous. I'm like, we got only a couple option, sweetheart, Like, uh,

(25:51):
we're either on the plane and we all go. You
can stay home. I truly doesn't bother me, and I
can just go by myself. I know you're probably thing
in your head, well what if you die and then
we're all because I'm thinking we'll all go down as
a family. At least we all go down to.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say that might be kind of
a wind, right or when these kids are pretty young,
that's really sad, but like.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Both parents, Yeah, yeah, well, don't.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
We all just take the take the drink together, you know,
take the coolie together, and just fucking get out of here.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
You know, or we cancel it and we gotta spend
you know, ten twelve hours in a car and we're
gonna have to drive to the wedding and we're missing
Dermak Kennedy on the way home. And that was the
deciding factor. I didn't have to go as willing to
risk death. I didn't have to go there. I didn't
have to lay out those options. Fortunately, it's like we
got connected. I'm breaking stuff down. I'm like, hey, I'm
telling you we're gonna be all right. But even right

(26:39):
when we took off from Nashville because it was raining,
it was starting to rain pretty good, and the wind
was going right when we took off, and the wheels
like got like right off the ground that spot where
was just about to lift you like like felt the
jerk sideway. Oh no, Charles got Scotty attached her and
she her eyes are just closed and she's just breathing.
We're just going we.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's so funny, idea we dude. When Willow and I
took off, we flew delta. When we took off to
go to Detroit, I had the thing down. Everybody had
their like shades down or whatever, the window shades, and
we're taking off and will was like, are we gonna
leave it? I'm like, we're like thirty minutes into the flapping, honey,
we're in there. She goes, oh, right back from the iPad.
I was like all right, hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Does child get scared flying, No, she just gets it's
the whole family, dynamic thing. She just she'll get in
her head about the family and then the small plane,
and then she sees the two years. She's like, they've
only been you know, this pilot graduated in twenty twenty three,
this ungraduated in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
This is our very first They sent all this stuff.
Will text me in the morning and I just start
feeling like shit instantly, like my morning was ruined because
I'm worried for him, knowing that they're worried because it's
a smaller plane. And then the guy texted he's like,
it might be a little bumpy when they take off.
All I'm thinking, as your wife's sitting there closing her eyes.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, yeah, because it's her. It's like their first flight,
and it's like, you know, on the small plane and
everything else. I'm like, we're gonnay, it's gonna be easy.
Before fucking it's like Jurassic parking. When you get done
it kind of dope, huh oh.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Absolutely, there's like a piece of you that's like kind
of to survive something easy. Just now it is wild.
You wanna fly out to Brad's wedding.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
No, no, we're going. We fly out the early flight
on Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh nice, so you can get a full twenty four
hours there, Yeah we can.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
We can. Uh, we can spend some time there.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
That'd be nice. It's just you and Drel going. Yeah,
so Charles's doing today, we're filming on Monday. She's flying
out to London, spending five days there. So she gets
back Friday, Friday, and then she's gonna get on a
plane Saturday.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
That's rock star ship. Yeah, that is rock star ship.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
And positive too about it being in Spock, because I
know a bitched a lot about this wedding in New
York and everything else. It is at a sleepy hollow.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Sleepy hall. I said, Salem, you're dude. That does gast
me up for you. You gotta do something fun and spooky,
I know. I mean you just gotta walk around. Yeah yeah,
sleepy hollow where sleepy hollows horsemen.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
You got to take a lot of send me some photos.
I got you, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Just that to some spooked over stup. Look, there's some
tear talk, dude. This is from tom at tom Rynette
High start tear talk. If the states of Michigan and
Nebraska went to war with each other, who would win?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
And why if the states of Michigan Nebraska went to war? Yeah,
I don't know what's the pop there. I would think
I would lean heavy Nebraska, just the blue collar, the
gurden spit, the farmers out there.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I'm gonna go uh easy dub Michigan. Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Flint,
like and you talk about blue collar cats like this
go up to the up like those people are survivors
up there, like that's basically Canada arms race. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, there's some pockets.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Like and also is this is this a neutral site,
like everyone just meets up in like Minnesota and we
go ches or do we have to like go to Nebraska?
Is in an away game in away war? Because if
that's the case.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Two, yeah, you bring up those cities like we're we're
just we're insanely outnumbered.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Insanely because I have to look at the population, I'm
thinking you're fucking dead.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Detroit done.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
And also like we to Nebraska, it might have to
be like revolutionary war style where it's like everyone you're
going to see each other fifteen miles away. We might
as well just line them up, get some muskets in
our hand, and get a little drummer boy and get
going after.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Some gorilla tactics going on. You come to Nebraska to
trench war. Yeah, warfare, you have to win a different way.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, let's get to await. So you you're thinking Nebraska
still no miss okay? Uh Andrew at a underscore Hilliard eleven.
I want to hear the boys thoughts on things you
kind of like about a sick day, staying home from school,
watching the prices right, or things of that nature. Let's
have a hell the Monday Boys hashtag tear talk. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
I was never allowed to stay home from school. I'd
be going to school with diarrhea if I had strap throat.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
I'm at school.

Speaker 8 (31:10):
I was just I was a kid getting every other
kid sick.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
I feel that too, bro. My mom wouldn't anytime I
go and then I'd be sick and I go to
the nurse or whatever and she's like, gotta call your mom.
My mom comes in, she's almost pissed off it. Oh yeah,
cause she's like, you just worked the system to go home,
And I'm thinking I feel sick and she's like, you're
going to school or if it's bad and they gotta
take me because I have a fever. My mom would
be tight going home, my mom, and you ain't playing

(31:35):
your game boy? Yeah, I'd be trying to I gotta
go take a ship. I'm sitting on the toilet trying
to play the game boy, trying to play some Pokemon.
Gotta catch them all. Oh, got to catch them.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
My mom and dad would be like pissed if I
like you, you're waiting until this weekend to go to
the doctor.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
The parents, if they don't believe that you're sick, they
put you in hell. You're no no TV, no nothing,
and it's the Hey, if you're really sick, you should
really rest. Just go in your room and lay there.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, some parents. I got some buddies now that they'd
be it'd be like sniffles and they're fucking staying home
anytime out here. Oh Chuck isn't here today. I just
have one with him. I roll like that dad, dude
ain't sick. Oh he's kid home too. The kid was
our boy too, that like lived with Chuck. But it's
like we were all just friends like they weren't brothers nothing.

(32:22):
He just he was just living with Chuck at the time,
and they'd be like both of them were sick. It's
like they're fucking at home right now playing two K
basketball Fontera.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, yeah, that is uh yeah. You know everyone had
those friends that when they weren't there, You're like, I know,
this motherfucker's having best day.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Kid feels. I gave him that nick. I gave him
that nickname. In middle school, JJ Kidd, he loved JJ Kidd.
He'd wear like wristbands around his uh calf with shorts.
I loved him. I loved him.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Hey, this might not be I hated missing school. Was
never good in school, but hated so boring. Buddy, it's
boring and like all your friends are there. So when
I see with these kids, it'd be more like high school.
Like these kids, you'll be like, I'm skipping class.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm like, I'm thinking, bro, I want to go to class.
Cute girls in there, My boys are in this class.
Like I want to be around. I want to be around.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I always want to get the I always wanted to
get the ninety seven percent, ninety eight percent attendance rate,
go on the field trip at the end of the year,
get an award.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
We never had that, never had that shit. I would
have been in there every year.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, every year with the sniffles.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
We had a We had a girl in our high
school graduation. She was also our valedictorian, Laney Anderson.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Shout out, Laney.

Speaker 9 (33:38):
Perfect attendance all the way K through twelve, No way
K through twelve. It was the first time in our
school's history, the.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
First time in American history.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
But truly, they have this whole plaque and everything. There's
like a doctor's appointments that you could like miss like
a class and it still counted, you know what I
mean of a full day. But she made it past
like five periods at least every single day, which is crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
That tip of the cap to her tip of the.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Cap, yeah, tip of the cap, tip of the cap.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah. The all sick this thing.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
How are you going to be if? How are you
gonna be if?

Speaker 8 (34:16):
When Rue and Scotti here come up to you think, Dad,
I don't feel good, like my stomach hurts.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Oh, they'll go to school. Rude didn't have the fever symptoms,
but Rue had hand mouthed foot and her ass was
at school. It's more like checking with the teachers and
everything else. There is there is a thing too, like
you check with the teachers, and there's a level of
they're not contagious if they don't have a fever and
they don't have like sores in their mouth, they just
kind of have the the reaction of it. Scotty had

(34:42):
the fever and everything else. Rude just kind of had
had like the dots and stuff on her foot and
everything else, but they were like already scabbed and that's
like a sign that she's not contagious. So it's like
we checked with the teachers. But it was also one
of those things like I saw charge, I was like, well,
she needs a she needs to go to school. She's
feeling fine. I'm like, ah, wait you but this it
kind of looks weird. It kind of looks like a
bit of a deal. And she's like put choos on

(35:03):
and everything else. And that's where I'm like, Okay, we're
on the same page. I just need more of a
push because I'm like this seems like it could be
a deal. And once I drive and drop her off,
I'm like asking the teachers and everything else, and everything
was all solid. But they'll go to they'll yeah, they'll
they'll go to school. It's just it's you know, how
you're going to show up every day like this is
this is a discipline and a principle that you embody

(35:24):
and you have to establish when they're little, because I
know that's how That's how my parents were of me,
Like there wasn't a there was no getting out of
you know, trying to be sick or anything else. There
were times where we're absolutely dog sick and you just
can't go to school. But yeah, as long as as
long as they're not like running a fever and everything else,

(35:44):
Like if you're feeling bad, it's like okay, if you
got like a little cold, like to me, you're going
to school.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Well, we got to be in the hundreds before that
conversation takes place of like do they miss school? Yeah
yeah yeah yeah, big.

Speaker 9 (35:58):
Time insane by My mom would do anything she could
to give me to school of like I had to
be actively vomiting or have like a one on one
fever so.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Bro one time, guys. When I was younger, I probably
nine or something like that, I did not want to
go to school one day and I tried to play sick,
didn't have the fever. Heard about the pennything under the tongue.
Tried that didn't work.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
That night.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I took it one of those little green like army
soldiers with the little musket and had like a little
point to it, and I kept putting into my nose
and tickling in the back of my nose and sneezed,
and I kept sneezing and sneezing and sneezing to where
my mom came in, like let's just call it. An
hour later and she's like, hey, you're not going to
school tomorrow, Like it sounds like you're really having a

(36:44):
hard I was like having a really tough time. Didn't
sneeze the rest of the night because I went right
to sleep right after that. They had to know, yeah, bro,
they had to know I was lying. Yeah, I got that.
I had that thing like touching my brain. At some
point my eyes were like welting up. Well, I'm like
I gotta get out. I had no idea why I
wanted to get out school. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
That was the O g one.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
When they take a hard right turn, I feel like it.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Sneeze is so easy to bake.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I just love that. You're like, no, we're getting the real.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah. I was like water pouring out of my eyes
and it was just like one side to my right
side of my face was just like all red. And
it's like totally fine.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
I had to put myself in a situation where it's
like I couldn't. I needed somebody else to be my
my alibi. And so after dinner one night, and like,
I'm gonna take a shower. Whyat was? You know, White's
like six years younger than me, but he's young enough
to where he shower. And it's like, all right, you guys,
you help White shower everything else. And I house a
bunch of apple sauce in my mouth and I kind
of hold it to where we're showering, and I just

(37:42):
pretend to throw up all over the shower so that
way White could leave the shower and be like, oh, yeah,
will was will was thrown up? And I can kind
of milk it a little bit like those were.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
And it goes in the drain too, which is genius.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah, yeah, to where she can't check it. All she
has to do is trust White, and she's kind of
going off my body language. Why it's young enough, he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
True? Yeah, that is elite, elite.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Do we have more to your talk?

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Shrem We do, but just because of time, we're thinking
we may kick it to Chad Powers.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Okay, all right's he get to Chad Powers real quick?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Chad Powers. Eight years after flushing his promising college football
career down the toilet, hotshot quarterback Russ Holliday tries to
resurrect his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Power. Is
a talented audball who walks on is struggling South Carol,
South Georgia Catfish Bay Catfish, South Georgia Catfish. Based on
Eli Manning's Eli's Places segment from ESPN and Omaha Productions,

(38:41):
this comedy event will take viewers by surprise with a
comeback story that everyone can relate to. Chad Powers is
now streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu
on Disney Plus. For bonus subscriber's terms apply. Listen. Have
we have you seen the late latest episode?

Speaker 6 (39:00):
I have not?

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Okay, I am I am fired up though that like
we were streaming too, and you saw a couple of
comments in the life chat being like, Yo, Chad Powers
is actually really good. Left. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's
it's tough to oversell it, but we genuinely feel like
this is a good show.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, this show is genuinely good. So after they played Tennessee,
they beat Tennessee. The last episode that came out was
the Spooky They go to Spirit Halloween. He loses all
the stuff, they have to go chat. Russ Holladay gets
a gun and they end up finding all the stuff
on the floor. The getting back to the hotel where
he sees the girl. What's the girl's name again, Ricky

(39:39):
Ricky don't know why I always forget that. Ricky Ricky
and Russ Holliday, not Chad Power, see each other at
the elevator and Ricky's like, oh, I know who you are,
blah blah blah. They go back and forth where you
see like one of his little lingering at the elevator
for a minute and she's coming up to do bed checks.
He runs up. They end up getting saved. That next
day they beat the Tennessee Volunteers. So this next episode
that takes place, they are five and zero. They're ranked

(40:02):
like top ten in the Country or something like that.
And College Game Day is trying to do a like
interview that featured Peace on Chad Powers to where Chad's like,
you know, having a really hard time. He's throwing up
during it. It's it's a it's a whole deal deal
one of the top quotes.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Remember we said like the Wolves was a great one.

Speaker 7 (40:24):
Yeah, They're like, who's like really influenced you? And he
just looks he's like Benjamin Franklin.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
So they talk him into it.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
You see Ricky starting to lin Chad Powers a little bit.
But does Ricky like Chad Powers if she knows he's
Russ Holiday. It's a whole back and forth.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
They have a nice little moment while they're watching film together.
Great show, well done show. Chad Powers. Russ Holiday decides
to himself in this show, which we don't see any
further down at that the only reason why bad things
happened to Russ Holliday is because he's Russ Holliday. If
he's always Chad Powers from here on out, it seems
like only good things happen at Chad Powers. So he's
essentially saying, I'm no longer Russ Holiday. Chad Powers is

(41:04):
who I am. He's even looking up like how to
get plastic surgery to change his face looks like that forever.
And so now he's having this identity crisis turmoil, bipolar
type multi personality thing that's taking place back and forth.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
So it's gonna it's a it's fun.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
There is a crazy wrinkle in this episode.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
We won't spoil it for yeah, don't don't spoil. Don't spoil.
Even even Taylor talking about that right there. I'm not
I'm not saying that's a spoiler, but I'm just thinking
in my head, like the riders, what a platform and
stage for these riders to like make something out of
something that again we'll say again people felt like it
was like beating a dead horse with the Chad powers
he like manning stuff and it's like, what is this?

(41:43):
What is this Hulu show? And it's honestly it's a
good show.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Delete that highlight thing so Will doesn't see Okay, yes, yeah,
delete that because body, I forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Here's the same holiday takes somebody down.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'll say that takes down a that's almost say.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Here's the segment that we do have from the show
It's called a Fresh Set of Downs segment where we
spot where we spotlight one transfer portal player current or
past who wasn't playing ballwell or was buried on the
depth chart and all they needed was a fresh set
of downs in order to spark their redemption story and
turn their college careers around. This week's Fresh Set of
Downs segment Player of the Week is Cade McConnell, Vanderbilt

(42:29):
offensive lineman, the left guard of the show. Friend of
the Show franchise, was the number ten player in Oklahoma
valedictorian in high school, went to Minnesota, originally transferred from
Minnesota to Vandy, and he's one of the best offensive
guards in the country. We have a little clip that
we can show you where he is body bagging LSU Tigers.

(42:49):
Kate McConnell was also summer intern for busting with the boys.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yeah, summer intern of busts with the boys, probably, and
it's your first time seeing them. Mitch was beneath him,
Internship valedictorian, the whole thing. No disrespect all of us,
but also disrespect all he's.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Kate is kind of the one who helped catapult the
entire internship program Operation YEA because he was DM and US,
but he was demon Sharham to where Sherm kind of
had like, Hey, I see that there's this there's this
old lineman at Vanderbilt. He's been talking about me about
an internship, like he needs a certain credit or something
like that could be fun because he plays college football.
He's at Vanderbilt. They had a good year last year.

(43:28):
They could be tough this year. Dude seems like he
would love to be for the brand. Says he'll do
whatever it takes, whatever whatever he can do for the brand.
We hire guys like in operations, in production and social
like specific people like in those lanes, and we were
kind of just adding like, yeah, we were gonna do
kid the whole time. He was kind of gonna just
be our football guy who joined the boys. But he

(43:49):
came in and he was like the most surprising. We
hired a few people from that litter, but he was
like a stud. Yeah, like some you just wouldn't expect, like, okay,
offensive lineman he's doing for credit. He'll be fun, banter,
he'll be good around the vibes, he'll be good around
the shop. But he's cutting clips. He's doing everything. Yo,
He's you're gonna be special.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
No job, too big, no drop too small. Guys on scholarship.
He's at Vandy. They're a hot team. He's getting an
al money and he comes in here and acts like
he's doing janitorial things. He's cutting clips, he's doing literally
whatever it takes to be.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
One of the boys.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's unbelievable. Can we break down this play for a saying?
Can go go to the beginning of this play. This
is a special play by Kate mccaudley. You see, they
got little, so they're like in this like three four
look right now, So they're fanning out the left tackle
and left guard. Kate McConnell's playing left guard. They're fanning out.
So these two guys are man the end who's a
four eye. He's going to go out towards the tackle,

(44:43):
basically allowing kid to go back in. But Cad played
a little bit the way he body bags this four
eye technique. Go ahead, let him bank him bank And
then right here, that's amazing. You see the will linebacker
he's dropped in the coverage, so you know he just
haves that you're left tackle. That's a win for him
on that side. He could essentially be done and just
kind of hold space. The fact that he's going in

(45:04):
to handle the center after that too, because you know
a lot of times when one guy drops another way,
there could be blitzers coming the opposite way, so you
have to bang a lot of guys back. This is
heady football.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
This is valid.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Victorian football type shit right here. That gets me juiced
up because he's violent. The thing that fires me up
is his feet are incredible here. He's got extension on
his punch. He's violent with his punch without getting over
his toes, and he's banging back. And when you're banging back,
you're not like taking over the block, so you can
throw that shoulder into it. Football porn. That's football porn.

(45:35):
Where he gets six to midnight. That's you talking about
forty nine from Minnesota last week. And I know the situation,
but like you brought that up on a stream where
you're like, that's football porn.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
You're definitely intentionally going out of your way right there
to bring up forty nine. There's no you didn't have
to do it.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Mighty Well talks about Luke.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, this is I don't know where's yourself? That's not true.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
But go ahead.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
I don't know where he's ranked on the NFL or
anything else, because I know he's junior, he's got another
year and all that. But if there are scouts that
are watching tape, whether they're watching Diego or whatever cats
they're watching at Vanderbilt or on the defensive side for LSU,
and they're watching this game, that right, there is a
clip to where it's like, say, he's not in the
top ten whatever it is. That's one where it's like,

(46:18):
who is this kid? Right? And his name starts to
get in some conversation, and if he puts some consistency
behind that, like this is a clip you will see
on draft night, on draft day whenever he does get
picked in to look at him here as a junior
against LSU's defense.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
Yes, is I may be.

Speaker 8 (46:37):
Wrong here, but I feel like I've heard some Joe
Moore talks about Vandy's offensive line.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Could be they're playing playing credible, man, they're playing amazing.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I don't know if the stats are coming out of
the LSU game, but before the LSU game, they were
averaging over six yards per rush, which was number one
in the country. Unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
What's crazy about Vandy z oh line and Caid in general.
Is he switchessides each like every other player.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Which is he doesn't play just right guard or left guard.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
They switch all the time. So within a one series
he could take three four snaps at left guard, three
four snaps of right guard.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Dude, that's insane. That is that is. I kind of
hate that he had another You hate that, but I
just love how it's like he's just thinking, just fucking
have me in the game.

Speaker 7 (47:17):
Like they move the tackle too, they bring the guard
and the tackle, so like that, he sticks with the
one guy. They just switch each time. It's the way
Vandy runs their offense.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
That's crazy what they need to do with Katy mcconelly's
a transfer to Michian next year if he's got one
more year.

Speaker 9 (47:31):
I was gonna say, we're watching Vandy LSU and my
dad was going.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Hey, that's the girl's guide, that's Cad.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
That's seventy That sprung u diego for that touchdown run
they had up the left sideline. Yeah, he had a
nasty block.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
On that one too. He was head hunt.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
It was flowing right there.

Speaker 7 (47:48):
Yeah, there's another clip of him going viral too when
he pulled from right guard and he came down and
just completely ran someone.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Overs are getting some love about this clip. Two years ago,
when LSU played at Vandy, there was an l s
U offensive lineman who essentially did the same thing to
Vanity Defense. And it's cool to see that script flipped.
And it's even cool that's our guy that did it.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
And I hope too that this photo is what's kind
of sitting here while we talk about them, because just
look at demon just a specimen specimen next the caid
A couple of dogs out there.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
That just makes you realize, how is.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Yeah, it's crazy that those are to the same things.
Those are both humans, right, Like those are both mammals
or whatever whatever we are, Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
They're both of the human species, both males.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, like that those are both Like if this is
a litter of dogs, like that one's related to that one,
like in some one way, shape or form, Like those
things are related right there. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Yeah, they wan of the less little extra you know what,
and both It's so funny you brought up the dog
litter thing because if they were both.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Looking like little cat blocked on those forward letters at
the at the beginning. Huh shirm, that was your joke.
SHRMP told me that joke before anybody who gets mad
at me for that joke. Yeah yeah, well yeah one, yeah,
one's got more sapient than the other.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
The dog litter analogy that you use, they would both
if they were shopping for dogs, Cad would be picking
the one that looked like Cad and Jared would for
sure be picking the one that looked like Jared. He's like,
let me give that one a chance. Let me take
this one home. Yeah, he's cute here. You just need
some cuddling.

Speaker 8 (49:30):
He can jump in, wants like like a big fucking dog, Jared,
I'll take the little.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, little scamper, a little scamper over here.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Demon swinging it in the air right now, just thinking
he's got it. What he's got a German shepherd, doesn't he?

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, yeah, German shepherd. He's got miss miss Pickles, what's
his Uh, he's.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Got a couple of bigger dogs. Miss huskis shout up,
Miss biscuits Husky.

Speaker 10 (49:58):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Did we want to get into Drew Brees. He'll be
in on with this any second. Do we have anything
else we want to hit in the intro any pet peeves,
any anything.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Yeah, shout out no free shout out this weather it
finally broke. It's here.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, bro, I got a pet peeve. On the flight home,
there was a family. There's a little kid behind me
that was just kicking my chair the whole time. All good, Like,
I know what it's like to have children on a flight,
and that to me, it's like, listen, this it's an hour.
It's an hour flight. I can handle this little massage
chair in the back just kicking me back and forth.
That's no problem. But I look back for a second.

(50:34):
The mom she's just staring at her phone while this
kid's doing that. And that's why I'm thinking to myself, Honey,
we got to teach these kids things. It's not the
kid's fault that he's taking the thing, because he doesn't
know he's doing the wrong thing.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
The dad notices after.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
He is I think he's Indian.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
He was something. He was something. He had a hard,
hard accent on it. And we golded off the flight
and he goes, I'm not gonna do the accent. I'm
not gonna do the accent. He looks at me and
he goes, my kid, my kid was kicking in the
back of your chair. And I was like, oh, yeah,
it's no bed there. He goes, I'm not sorry, and
I was like, you're you're not sorry, and he goes,

(51:10):
I'm not sorry. And I was like, I assume there's
a language barrier going on here. That's a crazy thing
to say. But by pepieve was that mom on her phone.

Speaker 9 (51:19):
Yeah, I think he probably was sorry.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
He probably was. He probably had to be. I had
to be.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
He said, I'm not sorry. I'm thinking you're just you're
accidentally just putting a not in there. He was more
he was more of a stone face killer. Yeah, he's
more of a stone face.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
He definitely was not sorry. He was just trying to
be a dick.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Why But I didn't say nothing. I was just chilling.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
Man.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
I think I think it's because, like you did you
like turn around?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
No, no, no, I gave it. I was sitting there
and I had the little gap right here and I'm
looking I'm talking to I'm talking to Will, and I
kind of gave like a peak, like I went like
a little peak Ski, and I just see the mom
chinned up doing our thing, and I thought that's kind
of crazy.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
I feel like when you learn the English language, you know,
like not that's like in Borat, like you learn what
there you go?

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Boy?

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, if anything, the word not was a mainstay for him.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
What you learned?

Speaker 4 (52:14):
What not?

Speaker 10 (52:15):
Me?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah? Maybe funck that guy?

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Dude, No, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
You know what I did? Didn't say ship got off
the plane? Got off the plane? Yeah? What may I do?
Beat up some Indian dude? Any who's getting uh?

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Speaker 3 (53:09):
You got me, Yeah, we got you?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Got me? All right?

Speaker 4 (53:12):
What's going on, dude?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I'm looking over this and I obviously am very familiar
with your career. But super Bowl Champion, super Bowl forty four,
thirteen time pro bowler, two thousand and four, NFL ap Player, Comeby,
Player of the Year two thousand and six, NFL Walter
Payton Mann of the Year two thousand and eight, ap off,
it's a Player of the Year, twenty eleven, NFL ap off.
It's a player of the year, like Buddy.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I mean, he missed one. What I miss former teammate
of Will Compton.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
So of all those accolades, talk to me about what
Will Compton did for you in your career.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
You know, just just lead by example, you know, I mean,
if there, I always always thought I was the first
guy in last one to leave. But then this guy
comes to town and just tries to show me up.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Stop Drew him. That's him. That's us guys together making
me look bad. Yeah, devastating, devastating.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Where should we start. Let's save a lot of ground
to cover. Let's start at the beginning. Okay, let's start
at the beginning. Talk to me about growing up getting
no offers out of high school and ended up a
boiler maker. Talked about that process.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, so I say this, Look, man, you grew up
in the state of Texas. Obviously, football is away of life.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
You know, for a lot of a lot of small towns.
You know, everything shuts down for Friday night lights. You know,
I definitely grew up in that atmosphere. My grandfather was
a long time high school football coach down at Gregory
Portland High School, Portland, Texas, outside of Corpus Christie for
thirty eight years. So you know, as a kid, we
would spend our summers down there. Basically, me and my

(54:48):
brother were water boys for his football teams. So as
a kid, man, I love sports. I mean I was
all ball, right, just a gym rat, football, basketball, baseball, Look,
you know, a track, cross country, tennis, soccer, like you
name it, just any stick and ball. And honestly, going
into high school, I was three sport athletes. So and

(55:11):
if you asked me to put it in order of
which sports were my favorite, and maybe that I was
kind of best at, it was baseball, then basketball, and
then football.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
So you can play on the basketball court.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
I was.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I would play the point, but there was a better
point guard, so I played the two. I was a
streating guard, but a baseball like I was the three
hole hitter through right, battag left, played short, but there
was a better short stop, so I played third. There's
a theme here, you know, better guys. So I just
shifted positions, you know. But yeah, batted three hole. Modeled

(55:47):
my swing after King Griffey junior. Ted Williams was my
favorite player of all time, the splendid splinter. So yeah,
really it was like baseball was my trajectory. That's where
I really thought I would end up, you know, hopefully
having a chance to play the next level, either college
or get drafted. So even throughout high school, like I'm
playing baseball, I'm playing basketball, and yeah I'm playing football,
but you know, hey, I was starting B team quarterback

(56:10):
on the freshman team and now I'm the backup on
JV and I don't think I'm ever going to play.
And there was actually a moment my sophomore year midway
through training camp, like hot Texas heat, brutal, my mom
picks me up from practice and she can tell like,
I'm down with the dumps. We pull into the garage
and she's like, what's wrong. I'm like, Mom, I think
I'm gonna quit football. Like, I just don't think this

(56:32):
is my path. I feel like I'm kind of wasting
my time. Like I'm playing behind this guy who's a phenom,
you know, and he's going to be the heir apparent
starter on varsity. So I'm just going to ride the
bencher for the next couple of years. Why wouldn't I
just focus on baseball if that's where I really think
my path is. And she's like, I mean, you know,
do you do?

Speaker 10 (56:49):
You do?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
You love it? And I'm like, yeah, look, I love
I love the competition. I love having the ball in
my hands. I mean I love the quarterback you know, position,
everything that comes along with it. Love being out there
with my boys. But I just don't think I'm ever
going to get a chance to play. And she's like,
you never know when your opportunity will come, so just
stick it out. But first off, you made the commitments
for this year, Like, so you're locked in. We can

(57:10):
reassess at the end of the year. But you never
know when your opportunity will come. And so sure enough,
a week later, like going into my JV sophomore season,
where I was just going to ride the bench, the
starter gets hurt in the final scrimmage. He tears his ACL,
so man, he's out, and all of a sudden, I'm
thrust into the starting job and the rest is kind
of history there with football, like it just it just

(57:31):
took off. We ended up going ten and zeros at JV.
I played, played really well, and then all of a sudden,
it was like, okay, you're like you're going to be
the guy, Like you're going to be the starter on varsity.
And ironically, like this is nineteen ninety five, we go
into my junior season of high school football. I went
to West Lake High School, Boston, Texas. It's a perennial powerhouse. Yeah,

(57:51):
always quarter finals are beyond big school in state of Texas.
But we had never won a state championship, Like we'd
always gotten really really close, but number won one and
like this was a year, like the best team we've
ever had and we are rolling through the playoffs and
in third round of the playoffs, I end up coming
off of a bootleg, get hit, come down my knee buckles,

(58:12):
and sure enough I've torn my ACL ACL MCL lateral meniscus.
And so like all of a sudden, Now the whole
reason I was starting was because this guy in front
of me had done that, and I had taken his job.
And so now all of a sudden, this happens to me.
And this is like December of ninety five, and so
or excuse me, it was December of ninety five, yep.

(58:34):
And so now all of a sudden, not only did
you know that kind of derails our playoff run, but
then I missed the basketball season and I missed the
baseball season. So and you're a junior, right, that's when
you get recruited, right, that's your junior year where and
this is what everybody's kind of looking at you and
thinking about who they're going to offer and all that stuff.
And look, I was not an impressive guy to look

(58:54):
at price still, not six foot, one hundred and seventy pounds,
right like, nothing, nothing prototype about that. And so then
even going into my senior season, you know, I gained
about twenty pounds just from working out in the rehab
process and all that stuff. To come back, but still
six foot one ninety five running a five two eight
boys five two eight forty with the big, clunky knee brace.

(59:19):
I was not a real impressive guy to look at,
you know, the guy that the recruiting coordinators canna go
and be like, hey, man, I got a gym for us.
You know, Yeah, six ft one ninety he runs up
five to eight with a big old knee brace. You're
gonna love this kid.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Yeah. Do you feel like offers and stuff would have
been there had you not torn your acl because again
you're like you did you go on to winn State
Tunnle your senior year?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yeah, look, we like, I guess the the accolades were there, right,
like we went sixteen and oh we want a state
championship and the biggest school in the state of Texas.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Yes I was.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I was the five A offensive player of the Year
in the state of Texas.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Yes, right, big, So.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
All that would tell you, okay, man, maybe he's got
a little something. Yeah. But again, like I think everybody
at times gets pretty enthralled with the measurables, right like
the prototype look, and I was certainly not that guy
like I was.

Speaker 10 (01:00:13):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I was I was a multi sport athlete, right, so
I was. I mean, I think if you just kind
of looked at it the way people look at it now,
I think that's a really attractive thing now, is that
they look at, hey, does this kid guy play other sports?
Says you just know how to ball, knows how to ball,
loves competition, that sort of thing. I think I checked
all the boxes there, but certainly the measurables weren't weren't there,

(01:00:34):
And so when it came down to it, I ended
up getting recruited by two schools. It was Purdue in Kentucky,
and the situations there were that both of them had
new coaching staffs. So with Kentucky how Mummy, I don't
know if you remember this, how Mummy. He was kind
of part of that air raid offense and that was
really starting to take off, like mid nineties. He came

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from Valdosta State to Kentucky and the quarterback in Kentucky
at that time was Tim Couch. So Tim Couch was
my host to on my visit to Kentucky. And basically,
like these guys kind of painted the picture for me.
First of all, they were like, you can play football
and baseball. Here, you're gonna come in. You're gonna back
up Tim Couch because nobody's beating this dude out. He's

(01:01:16):
a phenom. Right, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna play
for two more years, so you're gonna red shirt back
him up, and then he's gonna leave early for the draft.
He'll be the first pick, and then you're gonna start
for three years at Kentucky and you're gonna play baseball.
I was like, okay, that that actually sounds pretty that
sounds deal.

Speaker 11 (01:01:32):
Yeah, And then I go to Purdue and Purdue had
Joe Tiller who just came from Wyoming and they were
running the spread offense, and he said that they they
were going to recruit me at Wyoming, but they're like,
there's no way we're gonna get this kid up to Wyoming.
But then when he got to Purdue and it was
big ten, you know, maybe a little bit bigger program,

(01:01:53):
I was like, Okay, now we can go after him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
But he was shocked to hear that. I didn't have
any offers really, so it came out of Purdue Kentucky,
and I chose Purdue mainly because of the academic reputation,
but also playing in the Big Ten. The quarterback prior
to us was a guy named Jay Rogers. He's actually
the d line coach for the New Orleans Saints right now.
He was our quarterback for west Lake High School. He

(01:02:16):
went to Indiana University. So I you and I played
with his brothers and so we would like get together
on the weekends to watch him play. And I'm watching
him play against Michigan and Ohio State and like all
the big boys, and at the time, like Big Ten was,
I mean, all those schools I think was where everybody
aspired to go and play, you know, with her against Yeah,

(01:02:37):
And so I remember seeing that saying, all right, I
get I mean you're telling me I get to play
against Notre Day, Michigan, Ohiose State, Penn State, Wisconsin every
year and get a great education. And I was like,
sign me up. That's why I chose Purdue.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Did that as awesome? What are there were there any
other moments, like clearly you were able to that that
moment you had you said, what was that with your
mom or she was asking you saying you're gonna finish
out the rest of the year, you have that moment
with your mom, and then your opportunity kind of comes
and you're kind of forwarded to the fire on understanding
these lessons at a young age, Like, were there any
lessons or moments during your time at Purdue that carried

(01:03:11):
you into the NFL as well to where maybe you
got tested or maybe it was another moment that you're
able to look back on and see that, Hey, I'm
glad I stayed true to the process here.

Speaker 10 (01:03:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Absolutely, I mean so many similarities, Like you know, high school.
I talked about Westlake High School, Like, we moved into
that district my freshman year, and ironically it was because
my mom, like we lived all over Austin in a
bunch of different parts of town. My parents had gotten
divorced when we moved to Austin, so it's kind of
a tough time early, just as they were kind of

(01:03:42):
trying to find, you know, their rhythm and and but
at the end of the day, my mom looked around
and said, Okay, what's the best high school that's going
to put my kids in the best position to succeed
athletically academically. So she chose WESTLEYK High School's basically all right,
I'm moving into the district so you can go to
school here. And I remember showing up that day one
my freshman year of high school and literally they were like, okay,

(01:04:05):
who wants to play quarterback? And like forty hands went
up in the air, including mine, and I looked around
and I was like, dude, I am never going to
touch the field. Right. It was kind of similar to Perdue, Like, yeah,
I get recruited, but I get recruited alongside two other quarterbacks,
right that were highly touted guys from the Midwest, big
time recruits coming to play in the spread offense. Right,

(01:04:26):
Like that was the big Lawrie, We're gonna throw a
fifty times a game. And I show up, so there's
seven guys there to play quarterback my true freshman year.
So once again it's like, oh gosh, you know I'm
gonna end up, you know, holding being at tackling dummy
here for a few years, right, maybe even get the
chance to step on the field. Well, I ended up
kind of becoming a backup quarterback to a fifth year

(01:04:46):
senior my true freshman year and played in about seven
or eight games, one of those being in a critical
moment against Michigan State. Nick Saban was the head coach there,
like our guy was not playing, benched him. They put
me in. I'm kind of like, you know, the young
freshman going to come and start slanging it. I had
no idea what I was doing. I threw a ball
against tip gets intercepted. They pulled me back out, put

(01:05:08):
the fifthyar senior in. Ironically, we go down and score
like two touchdowns and win the game. But but like
plenty of moments there where man, you're just you're just
questioning whether you belong you know, I think that there's
always especially those moments as you kind of tick up levels,
you know, from high school to college to the pros,
they have those moments of like, man, like a little
bit of self doubt, like do I belong here? And

(01:05:30):
it's a bit overwhelming, and it and it and it
is where you just have to It's like you got
to just trust your training and trust your instincts and
trust the process and you know a lot of a
lot of self belief, but also just you know, the
overcoming of adversity and feeling like if you do things
the right way, good things are going to happen. And
and then and then you get to the point where
you almost man. You embrace, embrace the adversity, you embrace

(01:05:53):
the challenges. Look there there there were some defining moments
in in college. I say one of the biggest ones
was I ended up winning the starting job my sophomore year.
So we open up the year at USC kind of
a big, big moment first start in the coliseum against
the USC Trojans in nineteen ninety eight. We end up

(01:06:15):
losing that game, but I kind of felt like, okay, man,
I'm you know, I can do this. And then we
end up playing I think it was Central Florida and Rice.
We get wins there, and then all of a sudden,
it's kind of like leading up to this big game
at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is top ten and this
is like dream come true, like going to play at
Notre Dame. Ye, I'm a sophomore, like this was one
of the whole reasons that I chose to come to

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Purdue was to be able to play in games like this.
And for fifty eight minutes of that game, I play
absolutely lights out, like I just like I blacked out
and just and we end up like we're beating the
top top ten team in the country as little old
Perdue coming into Notre Dame. And then unfortunately in the

(01:06:58):
last two minutes, like we're just trying to just ice
the game, just get one first down, Notre Dame spurning timeout.
So we get to third and ten and Coach kind
of kind of like, hey, I'm going to call a
pass play. I'm putting this thing in your hands, like
let's go get this first time and go win this game.
And it was kind of like one of these rollout plays,
and I'm throwing the ball over the middle to a
guy and I just let the ball sail a little
bit hot and it kind of tips off his fingertips

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and Tony Driver, the free safety, picks it off, runs
it back to like the two yard line, they kick
a field goal to take the lead, and then we
have another now two minute drive to try to go
win it, and I throw another pick, So basically two
picks in the final two minutes. And dude, when I say, well,
first off crew had one at Notre Dame in like
thirty years, Okay. And so I'm sitting here looking at

(01:07:40):
all the seniors in the locker room and everybody's like crying,
and just you know, like we had fought so stinking
hard and I was sitting there going, dude, you are
responsible for this pain, right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Like we all have these.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
It's like and then but and then we insult injury.
Like we we now ride the bus back to the Purdue.
We bust up to South Bend for this game. It's
only like two and a half hours away. So I'm
riding the bus back to Purdue and I'm literally just
staring out at the cornfields you know in Indiana, and

(01:08:13):
I'm just like, all right, this is like you have
a choice here, right, Like you can just go in
the tank as a result of what just happened. Where
you can you know, freaking bow up, stiff upper lip
man and show these guys what you're made of.

Speaker 10 (01:08:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
And so look, a tough week of practice, but it
was just like, lock in focus. This has to be
your best performance. And then we come out against Minnesota
and I think I went thirty one to thirty six
for five hundred and twenty two yards and six touchdowns.
Oh yeah, every single game record in for new history.
That next game, and it was kind of like one
of these misty, eerie day like Midwest fall days. But

(01:08:49):
it was just like it all kind of came together
and it was one of those I don't know, it
was like those one of those proven moments to myself.
They're like, you can, you can, you can overcome one
of these kind of devastating os that mentally could really
mess with.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
You, right, absolutely devastating to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
To that next week and just and absolutely put your
best foot forward. And I don't know, I just it
proved a lot to myself.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Yeah, two pigs in those last two drives, You're you're
definitely you're trying to the game. Yeah, trying. You're putting
that entire game on yourself. Like, fuck, maybe I am
who they think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
I am, right right, Maybe maybe my mom was wrong.
I should have just played baseball and you're going way
back in all time, Yeah I should I should have
quit the whole entire time. Dude, What was like being
a sophomore and having that happen at the end of
the Notre Dame game? Were there any like seniors? How
was the leadership in that building at that time? Were
they like come up to you and checking you, putting

(01:09:38):
their hand on your shoulder, But hey, it's going to
be all right or was it like leave the kid
alone and see what he does. No one's coming to
save you vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
No, I would say we had we have pretty good
We had good culture on that team, and we had
a good group of guys, and honestly, we had we
had We had guys that had been kind of beaten
down for a while, you know, like Perdue hadn't had
a lot of success, you know up to that point,
you know, fifteen straight losing seasons or something like that,
and just a lot of dysfunction. You know, when Joe

(01:10:06):
Tiller got there, he had cleaned house on a lot
of guys. You know, like that was a really tough
first you know, spring ball, where he was honestly trying
to run some guys out right and just make sure
that he kind of kept the right guys. And so
everybody who was there like had earned their right to
be there, and it was because they were great leaders
and we're great you know, they had formed the culture

(01:10:29):
and so man, I did have plenty of guys that
put their arm mom and like, hey man, we got you,
we believe in you, and obviously that means a lot.
But also knew I had to prove it to him.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Yeah, so just for more context, everybody that already knows
Drew Brees, but just gonna say it again. Six foot
you know less than two hundred pounds. Around two hundred pounds,
You tear your acl. You gotta bum you gotta bum
ACL over five seconds in the forty you still get
drafted in the second round to the chargers tear the

(01:11:00):
ship out of your shoulder. Can you give us a
look inside your mental your mind during that process, because
in your career, in your journey, you've had to trust
your instincts, You've had to stay true to your beliefs,
what you believe in everything else. Can you give us
a look inside that moment when you tore your shoulder
with the chargers and how close you were to potentially
not playing ever again. I think you failed to physical

(01:11:22):
later on as well, Like, give us a look inside
of that story of overcoming that adversity.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Yeah, so, uh, that was uh at the time, man,
that was that was about as devastating as it gets
because that was that was truly a moment where I
felt like my dream was just being ripped away, Like, uh,
that I would that I would never play football again.

(01:11:48):
And look my first five years with the San Diego Chargers, man,
there were there were plenty of ups and downs. I
came in as a rookie and backed up Doug Flutie
for a year.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Yeah, which was tab Doug flute.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
As a guy to learn fromhim and as a mentor
for four years because he ended up being backing me
up for three years. Was pivotal for me in my
growth development and for my career. But during that stretch
where I was the starter, I was benched three times
by Marty Schottenheimer for various reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Sometimes it was turning the ball over too much. Sometimes
it wasn't getting the job done. Sometimes it was just
hey we need to spark. I'm gonna throw Fluti in there.
But like, nonetheless, for a young guy who's working so
hard to establish himself, you know, as the starter for
a team and gain that respect and that belief from
my teammates in the organization, man, that's a shot to
the ego, right And like, never had I had a

(01:12:44):
moment in my career where I truly lost confidence. And
there was definitely a moment or two during that stretch
where you would say, like I lost confidence like I
was just not sure if I could get the job
done right, and yet Man had battled through that, and
you know, off season is just dedicating myself to being
the very best leader that I could be quarterback, Like

(01:13:06):
looking at my diet, my sleep pat is like I
was leaving no stone unturned and finally had kind of
reached this point four to five, We're okay, like I
am now a good player in this league and I'm
clearly the starting quarterback of this team and earned the
right to be the franchise quarterback for this organization. And

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then going into the very last game of the two
thousand and five season, which was the end of my contract,
so it was like, Okay, I've made it all the
way through. I've proven it, and now's the opportunity to
get the commitment from the organization long term. You're our guy,
despite the fact that they drafted Philip Rivers, you know,
two years previous, who is now my backup? Like, Man,

(01:13:49):
I am going to be the guy. And then that
very last game against the Denver Broncos, you know, I
come out of a you know, a pile of jumping
for a fumble and I have this dislocated right throwing shoulder.
Literally my arm is stuck like this. It dislocated out
the bottom and it was just stuck like that. So
I remember walking to the sideline. It's kind of like
one of these rainy days, and like, I like, my

(01:14:13):
body's in shot, but I know exactly what it is,
and I know the gravity of the situation, you know.
And I sat there as I'm walking off the field
and I literally thought to myself, this the last time
I'm never going to put on a charge of uniform.
And then I get to the sideline, I was like,
you know, this maybe last time I ever played football game.
As the doc is like, you know, lethal weapons, sliding

(01:14:34):
my shoulder back into my socket and even, you know,
a couple of days after that, like I go see
doctor James Andrews, who was the preeminent you know, or
with the people surgeon down at Birmingham, Alabama, and literally
he's looking at me like, hey, you have so much
swelling in that shoulder. I really don't know the extent
of the damage. Like just let me get in there
and figure it out and then I'll kind of tell
you when it's done. So like literally, as I'm going

(01:14:55):
under for surgery, I still don't know what's going to
happen or even the gravity the whole you know, injury.
And I end up coming out of the surgery and
he's like, well, you know, he goes like, if I
if I had to do that surgery one hundred times,
I couldn't do as well as I just did it.
That was this message to me. So I was like, Okay,
that's what I want to hear. Doctor, Like what does
that mean? He's like, he's like, look, you have a

(01:15:17):
long road ahead of you. Like it's a minimum eight
months before you're even going to ever start to be
able to throw again. He's like, I put you back together,
but man, this reheab process is going to be a
bear and you're going to have to learn how to
throw again, right. And there's kind of some non negotiables
about the rehab as we go along here. I mean,
I was trying to push the envelope as much as
I could. But here's something interesting that happened in that
during that that that chain of events. So I actually

(01:15:41):
going into that last year, my agent had recommended that
I get an insurance policy on my shoulder, I mean,
or basically just on my you know, my body, my career,
right like, hey, you know, you have the chance to
sign a long term contract which should be worth a
lot of money if something happens to you this year,
she get a like a Woyds of London contract, uh
insurance contract just in the event that something happens and

(01:16:03):
you can't play. So there was a moment where I
had to make a decision as to whether I was
going to collect the insurance policy and never play again,
where I was going to attempt to play again and
avoid the insurance policy, which.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
I'm sure the insurance policy was probably a pretty hefty
amount of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Care to share that number at all of what that
insurance policy was to show.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
I think it was like five million bucks. Here was
five million bucks that I could just take the five
million in the walk or or attempt to play again
and again. There was no guarantees right that that that
I would play again. But but I I was like,
you know what ripped that thing up?

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Like I just I feel like God's got me, and
this is this is even though this is the path
that I wouldn't choose, Like this is this is the
one I'm on and and and I'm going to be
better for it, and I think that's that's that's really
the way I look at that, a c L injury
with my with my knee in high school. You know,
at the time, I thought, Hey, this is that state,

(01:17:00):
and it's the worst thing ever could happen to me.
I'm missing, you know, the basketball seat in the baseball seat.
I'm not going to get recruited. Like, yes, did it
alter my path? Maybe it did, but man, it molded me,
strengthened me. It made me stronger in my faith. It
did so many things for my path and my direction
that you know at times that we leave it up

(01:17:20):
to our own devices, you know, I think that's when,
you know, we realized that, you know, God has us
right where he wants us, and it's all for a reason.
It's all meant to mold us in a lot of
different ways. And both those injuries did that for me.
And look, I never would have ended up with the
New Orleans Saints and had that incredible, incredible experience, incredible run,
incredible journey that we had there over the course of
fifteen years, and obviously that became about so much more

(01:17:43):
than just football. But I never had the chance to
be a part of that if it wasn't for going
through those things.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Yeah, man, how long did that rehab process take? In totality?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Man, the shoulder was a solid eight months. So, you know,
surgery was early January, and literally I wasn't ready until
week one of the season, you know, so call it
in early September. You know, I went through training camp,
but I was on a pitch count, you know, so
I was, you know, kind of ramping up twenty throws
and then thirty throws and then forty throws, and I

(01:18:13):
mean I can remember my first couple of throws. I'm
sitting there throwing a slant and just dirting them, you know.
And you know, you can ask Sean Payton. Sean Payton's
looking at our quarterback coach who had been with me
in San Diego, and was like, hey, are we seeing
the best of him right now? And my QB coach
would be like, hey, well there's more there, There's more there.

(01:18:34):
Just be patient. And truly it was one of those
things where it was like if I threw forty throws
in a day, maybe two or three of them were good. Really,
then the next day it was four or five, and
the next day it was five or six and then
then seven, and that you know it just gradually each day,
so truly trusting the process and not getting frustrated and
just knowing that, man, it's just going to keep getting stronger.

(01:18:56):
It's going to keep getting better. And the I rening
with that whole thing is like, honestly, I I came
back so much stronger, like I'm saying, like a stronger arm,
like a stronger lower half, like better mechanics, Like everything
came back better. And it was probably a result of

(01:19:16):
literally having to like rebuild the foundation for throwing again,
like literally having to learn how to throw the football again.
So mechanically it was almost like, Okay, any deficiencies that
I had before, I can correct them now because I'm
literally like rewiring the system just to get back on
the field again.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I got a So I got kind of a two
part of here because we kind of brushed over the
insurance policy a little bit. I want to know, like
who you talked to in that process, how long of
a thought process it was before You're like, Lesten, five
million dollars sounds great, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep
betting on me. And then also, how did we get
to New Orleans from you know, having the shoulder surgery,
playing your last game as a Charger.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah, well it's a main conversations with my wife and
then with my agent. You know, my agent was Tom Condon,
Old Tommy yep ye. So you know, I think it
was you know, with Tom like man. Tom was always
so just kind of poised, even keel like Tom. I

(01:20:17):
always felt like you talk about agent, do you just
feel like has your back man at all times? And
like I, I I think as devastated as we all were,
that I was just in that situation. I think Tom,
if anything, gave me a ton of belief that that
I could come back and and and not only play,

(01:20:37):
but play at a high level, you know, and and
so it was just reinforcing what I what I wanted
to hear, you know, I just I just wanted I
just wanted to feel like I just had everybody in
my camp, you know, and everybody that was there to
help push me to be you know, the best that
I could be. But but certainly, you know, just be unwavering,

(01:20:57):
you know, in that belief. And he was one of
those guys. Of course, my wife and so yeah, I
think at the end of the day, it became an
easy decision, like I'll always regret if I don't, you know,
make a run at it, you know. But I think
I think all that is to say that, like just
the reality of the situation with my shoulder, Like if

(01:21:21):
you ask doctor Andrews, he would tell you that he
didn't think I was going to be able to come
back and play again, even though he put it back
together as good as he possibly could. It's like, just
the probabilities are not good. I've just he had never
seen that injury in a throne ever, Like that was

(01:21:41):
a bull rider's injury when a bull rider gets his
arm caught in the rope. This is what he told me.
That's what he sees. The dislocation out of the bottom. Right,
that's gnarally, man, that's gnarly three hundred and sixty degree
tear of the labor. And so I had thirteen anchors
in my shoulder. Like literally I would do rehab and
it would sound like a cold rubber band. It was

(01:22:06):
these anchors in my shoulder, like just ringing in my ear.
Now do it. That's like a vivid memory of.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Rehab and in context for people I tore my shoulder
as well, and it works like a clock like I
had twelve, Like thirteen is something extra has to be
happening to your shoulder for him to have thirteen anchors.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
So here's so Zach Thomas had surgery the same day
that I did with a similar injury. But you guys
playing linebacker, they're going to fix you differently because you're
not required to have all this external rotation, right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
We'll have there is for our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tighten you guys up right because you
don't you don't need all that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Right, We're just right here, but yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
But but for QB rotational athlete need all this external
internal like it's it's got to be stable enough but
loose enough, you know. So it's like it's walking this
delicate line, right and yeah, through the rehab process, it's
just about building their strengthen and around that joint to
protect it. But yeah, I mean it was like a
work of art as I think about what doctor Andrews

(01:23:10):
had to put back together and perform.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Dude, that is incredible. Again, like you given that perspective too,
Like I'm not even thinking about it on Zach Thomas,
like having similar surgeries and they gotta do it a
little bit differently because the quarterback, linebacker and everything else,
and just you still overcoming that and I appreciate you
sharing all that with this too, because I know, like
if you're if you're young, like I'm thirty six, I

(01:23:33):
want to say you started to take off when I
was like in high school, right, Like, wasn't it like
when you're having like the four thousand yard seasons, isn't
it around like what O seven, eight oh six? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Yeah? Six O six was our first year with the
Saints and that was that was really the start of
the run.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
So even at my age, like I remember, like there
were a couple of moments where I'm getting reminded that
you played on the San Diego Chargers. I'm getting reminded
your actual laboram story came up during my rehab process
on Just Guys. It was like you, I want to say,
rich Gannon was another one. But you're like learning about
these things about like Drew Brees that you that everybody
knows of as a Hall of Fame quarterback, Like anybody

(01:24:12):
young that just watched you basically your Saints days has
really you know, they could be hearing this for the
first time, just be thinking, Oh shit, he played on
It's always the Oh shit, he played on the Chargers.
Oh shit, Philip Rivers was a backup him for a
couple of years. Oh he was behind Doug Flutie, like
the Drew Brees that we all know right now. It's crazy.
So I appreciate you walking us down those those those

(01:24:33):
old memories.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Yeah, that's a little bit of memory laying there. But
and then every every one of those Look, I consider
myself really lucky from a coaching perspective. You know, Joe
Tiller in college, who was so influential for me, Marty
Schottenheimer with the Sandy Which Charterers, Sean Payton with the
New Orleans Saints, so pretty rare that you would just have,

(01:24:56):
you know, that that level of stability, you know, at
each level and each each one of those guys, I
just have lessons that continue to ring in my ear,
you know, each and every day, especially as now I'm
coaching and I'm coaching my kids and other kids, and
just you know, a lot of my style has been
modeled off of those guys.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah, we have a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
We have Clay Matthews, on one of our Locker Room
show that comes out on Thursdays, and we also have
and just hearing about these coaches and how their approach
to these kids. What is what is your approach with
your children? Are you hardest on your kids a little
easier on the other kids. Gregson, he's coaching his.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Actually I love watching greg stuff. I know I ran
is he's coaching middle school football. I was coaching my
eighth grade Pop Warner son this year, and I coached
Pop Worner the last two years too for my my
freshman son. Yeah, it's I would say my style. Well,
first off, I think it's very hard for parents to
coaching kids because it is very natural to try to

(01:25:53):
over coach them, right. It's like you feel like every
lesson that comes to your mind to teach them, you
just like, ah, it's just coming out at all times,
and you want to coach a mike on every play.
And that's where it just becomes difficult, is blurring those
lines between like dad and the house, and then you
know I'm your coach. You can't tell how many times

(01:26:14):
I've I've had to look my son in the eye
and say, hey, so like right now, I'm your coach.
I'm not your dad. Okay, I'm your coach, so listen
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Right to what I say.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Yeah, but i'd say this, like overall, I'd say, I'm
pretty intense, but I try to I try to be
intense with my praise as much as I am intense
with my correction, right, So it's not it's not just
one sided I, I would say. I I also I

(01:26:49):
also try to really put each position, each kid in
the best position to succeed, and and try to find
moments where you can put them in a position where
you are able to give them praise. I find that
so many, so many of these kids like to watch

(01:27:10):
their growth from the start of the year to the
end of the year, like is monumental. And I think
that's where we see the sport of football as just
being like this creator of men, right and good young men.
There's just so many life lessons to be learned through
the sport, and it's almost like you're just looking for
those moments that you can set up in practice or
or in a game that you can immediately spin back

(01:27:32):
to being a life lesson. And then I think, like
that recap at the end of every practice and the
recap at every at the end of every game are
probably some of my favorite moments. You know, it's like, hey,
you kind of go around the circle all the coaches, Hey,
what did we learn today? And then you just try
to take something that happened to practice and then bring
it back to life, right like the effort of some
kid or you know whatever it might be. Like, I

(01:27:55):
just I find that that those are the most valuable
parts of coaching these young kids.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
I love it.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
You we we broke down the shoulder thing a little bit.
Now we're in the process. You're going this eight month
rehab where we don't know if you can play again.
You've ripped up the insurance policy. Your wife's like, I
believe in you. Tom Connin's like, I believe in you.
Tom connit's paid to believe in you. Yet you still
believe that he believed that what is his how is
he going out? And what other teams is he talking to?
That ended up you going to the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Yeah, I would say because of the just you know,
unknowns with the shoulder and and the fact that I
think word had gotten out that you know, I had
a twenty five percent chance of coming back and playing,
you know, that was that was what the Miami Dolphins
doctors had assessed with me, and they had told Nick
Saban that they had told the the UH the organization

(01:28:47):
that because at the end of the day, it came
down to the New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins
as being the two teams that were trying to bring
me in as the starter. There was a lot of
teams that were like, hey, we'll bring you in as
basically like a backup, and let's just see what you
got right, Let's see, let's see if you can if
you can come back. But the Saints and the Dolphins

(01:29:10):
were the only two that were coming after me to
be their starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
When you look at the NFL now and there's all
these talks around quarterbacks, should they play as a rookie,
all these young quarterbacks who struggle. Then you look at
examples like Sam Darnold, who's in the Baker Mayfield gyle Jones, Yeah,
Daniel Jones, and obviously clearly it's it was a sim
It was very similar with yourself, like what do you
feel like you look at with these guys to where

(01:29:38):
it's you know, everybody's wanting to either say they're not
the guy, or they're a bust, or they just need
to be in a better situation, Like what are you
seeing when you watch kind of these conversations unfold, pulling
from your own experience seeing these guys now have success
after having a rocky start in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Look, man, it's a great it's a great question, and
it's and it's probably it's definitely in exact science because
we see it, we see it succeed and fail a lot. Right.
The first thing I would say is you just you
can't replace experience, and so the more experience a guy has,
the more that you are going to see what he's
capable of and what you have. So I'll give you examples, Like,

(01:30:19):
first off, I think that every NFL, you know, any
young player needs at least forty to fifty high level
starts before you're going to see, you know, what they're
capable of. I think too many times guys get drafted
and maybe they've only started for a year, year and

(01:30:40):
a half or two in college and they're expected to
come in and it just to happen like that's that's
not that's not reality. The reality is if a guy
has a limited number of starts in college, it's probably
going to take him a good two to three years
in the NFL before you're going to know what you have.
And if he's in a situation where look as it is,

(01:31:02):
in most cases, most top ten pick quarterbacks, top fifteen
pit quarterbacks are going to teams that aren't very good.
That's why they're drafting that high, or they have a
lot of other holes to fill, and so it's just
even more pressure that's falling on the quarterback position, right,
And everybody's got this win now mentality and man, we
don't have time.

Speaker 10 (01:31:23):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
But at the same time, you also have to understand that, man,
the maturation process for a quarterback takes takes a little time.
The guys that do come in and maybe have more
success early probably has a lot to do with the
team that they're on and the system and the staff,
but also the amount of experience. Okay, So like the
rookies that came in and had success last year, Okay,

(01:31:46):
like the bow Knicks Oennicks started sixty games in college,
Jade and Daniels. Jade Daniels started four seasons I think
two years for Arizona State two years for LSU, right,
Rock Purty, Rock Purty started fifty one games at Iowa State, right,
and every time they stept on the field, they were
not the better team, right, Like they were the underdogs.
They have a chip on the shoulder like they had

(01:32:06):
to kind of like you know, gritty. So I think
those would be examples of all right, a lot of experience,
so better position to maybe have some success you know,
early in the NFL, but still a process.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Is it still the same formula even if they're having
success early, Like, is it still kind of the same
formula or system in your head to where it's like
you still want to see a good forty fifty high
level starts in the NFL Because people talk about they
try to break down Bowe nixt all the time. Like
you played for Sean Payton. Everybody's like this partnership, this
is who Sean wanted. It seems like bow Nick Drew

(01:32:41):
Brees has that mental Yeah, he has that mental fort two.
He has that kind of it factor on wanting to
compete and learn and be really great. He also started
a shitload of games, so if he has a down game, people,
I feel like the conversation will be well, he had
all these starts, he's kind of as good of a
prod product as he's going to be. And it's like, well,
there's still some separation from college to the NFL, right,

(01:33:01):
what do you see that situation? Like with like Bo
Nicks and Sean Payton in Denver or an example like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Some of it, too, is the style of offense that
a lot of these college programs are running man. So
much of it's no huddle, so much of its shotguns,
so much of it is RPO. You know, we're really
you're kind of pigeonholing the quarterbacks into In most cases
you're just reading like one person, or you're just reading

(01:33:28):
like this small section of field, and so you don't
really get a chance to learn a ton about coverage
or even like in other words, I don't know if
your football IQ is is where it needs to be,
or if you've really been in positions where you've been
forced to kind of learn all of those things until

(01:33:51):
you get to the NFL and then all of a
sudden it is men, the best teams are the ones
that can get under center and run the ball like
that's you would know will like as a linebacker, if
you're exclusively in shotgun, I think that gives you. That
gives you a lot more benefit than all of a
sudden offense that is under center. We're going to pound it.

(01:34:11):
Oh here comes play action, right, opening up shots down
the field. Oh there's the screen game. Oh there's the shotgun.
Oh we're going empty right, like this variety that you
can throw at defenses in the NFL. If you have
the ability to go under center and add that component,
I think makes you much more of a problematic offense.

(01:34:32):
And I think from a quarterback perspective, it's a skill
set that you need to have. Like I watched the
New England Patriots right now on the Colts two of
the teams that are under center the most, and they're
having some of the most success. And I think it's
really benefiting those quarterbacks and Daniel Jones and Drake may So.
I bring that point up just to say that I
think a lot of these kids now are doing things

(01:34:53):
in college that then they come to the NFL and
then they're having to do stuff that maybe they've never
done before, maybe they've never been under center. But man,
like that's a big benefit to that. I had a
little bit of that that learning curve. When I came
in the league, we were spread offensive Purdue throwing the
ball fifty times a game. I was in shotgun ninety
percent of the time. I get into a pro style
offense with Ladanian Tomlinson and like a true fullback of

(01:35:13):
Lorenzo Meal, and guess what, I'm under center like seventy
five percent of the time right having to turn my
back to the defense on play action Like I never
I didn't know what that was, right, right, So that
that took That took a little time. I saw that
with bo Nicks last year because I know Sean Payton
likes to do that, right, So again it's what system
where they in and then what are you asking them
to do now? And just understanding there's gonna be a

(01:35:34):
little bit of a learning curve that goes along with that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Yeah, we will brought up that, you know, the bow
Nick Sean Payton relationship. Everyone always kinds of lean on,
like Sean Payton has found his new Drew Brees bow
Knicks student of the game, true professional, very dialed in
in his routine. Did you ever have a conversation with
Sean Payton about the possibility of bo Knicks or as
bow Knicks reached out to you and be like, Hey,
this guy's a really intense coach. How do or so,

(01:35:57):
how do I get him to like me a little bit?
More like what do I got to do?

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Have you had any conversations with those two about their relationship?

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yeah, I mean I've I remember talking to Sean a
bunch during the draft process when all, you know, six
of those quarterbacks were out there, and you know, him
talking about who he liked, and ironically, he loved Bo.
He loved Bo from from the very beginning, and then
Bo kind of fell in his lap at whatever that was,
pick twelve or thirteen. And I think Bo has all
the traits that Sean loves. First off, Bo's a fiery competitor.

(01:36:28):
Sean likes. Sean likes having a guy like that, even
a guy who's going to kind of snap back at him.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
I think that Sean Payton comes from the Bill Parcells
world of coaching, which is, you know, Bill Parcells would
get audien, you know, and I think Bill loved when
you would come back to him with conviction, you know
about about you know, whatever it was. And so Sean
likes that type of a guy and obviously bo to
multi sport athlete, a ton of experience, you know, knows

(01:36:56):
what he likes. Definitely a learning curve, you know with
some of the things in Sean Payton's offense, and I
think you've seen him grow and mature through that. Yeah.
I've had many conversations with Bo too. I think just
at the end of the day, just about like preparation
and process situation some time within this offseason. A great kid.
Man loves ball and what's would be great.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
You definitely see the mental four or two with bone knicks.
This last game against the Giants, I think they were.
They scored thirty six and the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Thirty three and the fourth man.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Unreal, unbelievable because you thought, like, I'm watching Jackson Dart
and he's getting a couple of penalties and that lasting
I'm like, this kid is really lighting the NFL on fire.
And they score relatively quickly. It's like, holy shit, bon
Nix is about to do just too. Yeah, he's about
to do it. If we go travel back down to
the Bayou a little bit. You got Spencer Rattler. He's
a first year starter of South Carolina game cog JP

(01:37:49):
Huffy sitting on the bus with us.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
What are you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Seeing out of Kellen Moore as his first time being
a head coach at the Saints. Spencer Radler seems like
he has a lot of success. Then it's like then
he throws like two or three picks in a game
and the kind of like finding their identity on offense.
What do you see him from the New Orleans Saints
right now?

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Look, I think Spencer Rattler has a lot of unique traits.
I think he throws the ball extremely well. I think
he's he has the ability to improvise, to problem solve.
He's taken off and run and made some exceptional plays
with his legs this year. So from that perspective, he
has all those traits. I think he's got a little
monoxie to him. Look, I've always liked Kellen Moore's systems.

(01:38:28):
Wherever he's been been a lot of places. Has had
to put together offenses for a lot of quarterbacks, and
I think that's what he's been really good at is
putting together offenses that fit the strengths of the qbs
and the personnel around him. I know what's tough as
you sit here, because you're like, ah, they're not a
one in sixteen. They certainly don't look like one in
sixteen when you watch them. They've been in most of

(01:38:52):
their games, like most of their games have come down
to a final drive where they had a chance to win, tie,
certainly extend the game, and a way to win. Look
on the flip side, you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks.
You know they found ways to win. Unfortunately, the Saints
just have it right and their records reflect that. But
I think they're building something there. They've got a ton

(01:39:13):
of pieces on offense, They've got one of the better
old lines in football. Defensively, they've got a great core
group of guys, giving up too many big plays the
last couple of weeks. But otherwise they have all the pieces,
you know, So I think you just kind of scratch
your head. They just haven't found ways to win some
of these close ones.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
If somebody called you right now, if Kilmore College is
I need I need one game, one game at you
to show these young bucks, what's what do you think
with your competitive drive and you had we'll give you
three weeks to train, could you go in and be
competitive in an NFL football game today.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Well, now, look, I would know, I would know where
to throw it. I just don't know if I could
get it there.

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Yeah, turn out the tape. I know where it's supposed
to go.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Uh, now that the right that's that's one. That's one
lingering effect from the uh from the shoulder surgery back.
You know twenty years ago now was doctor Andrews said,
you know, hey, you're you're you're gonna be on the
fast track now for a degenerative shoulder, and you know
at some point this thing is going to kind of
take a steep dive. And unfortunately, I think I'm at

(01:40:25):
that point, Like I don't I don't throw with my
right arm anymore. I actually throw left handed. I kind
of started doing that towards actually, just with my kids
because I come home after a long day of practice
and I didn't have anything left in the right arm
and they but the boys want to play catch.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
So yeah, left hand, you throw.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
I throw left handed. I'm hey, I'm I'm pretty I'm
pretty mean inside of inside of thirty with this left dude.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
You bring up a unique point though, that a lot
of a lot of players don't think about while they're playing,
is the wear and tear that's taking place in their body.
Now that you've been at the leaf for a few
years now, and you know, my shoulder, I was told
it's gonna be on a fast track. What kind of
things are you doing to kind of keep your body
ahead of the chains so you don't kind of just
kind of go downhill? Not just a shoulder from a

(01:41:10):
body standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Yeah, now a great question. Look, I I still love
I mean, I just love athletics and I love to
be active. So man, I play a bunch of racket sports,
like I played a bunch of Podel pickle. I still like.
I like the mountain bike. I like to you know,
get in the water and stand a paddle or surf

(01:41:31):
of course, just all this stuff that I do with
my kids, you know, athletically. And then look, I like
to train. I like to I like to lift heavy
weights at least twice a week, you know, especially lower body.
Like once you're a rotational athlete, like I never want
to lose. Like you think about what you lose with
the aging process. You lose the ability to go fast,

(01:41:54):
you lose the ability to recover, and then you just
lose the ability to do it, you know, day after day, right,
and as you stay on top of so like flexibility
is important, so like yoga plates, all those things to
make sure that I'm staying like pliable. I mean, I
still get bodywork and I saw in a cold tub
like religiously, and then honestly just to staying strong like

(01:42:15):
I want to. I want to feel like especially part
of this is maybe motivation because my boys are getting
older and like they walk in the kitchen, they try
to size you up, right, don't walk up, don't walk
up on me, boy, Yeah, you gotta gotta you got
you gotta keep pace, man, and some of it they're
always eyeing you man like you know so, so I
I feel like that's that's what motivates me. But I

(01:42:37):
just want to. I just want to be able to
do all the things that I want to do for
as long as I possibly can. I used to use
the term at the end of my career prolong my prime.
I was always trying to prolong my prime with everything
I was doing. So man, from a training, recovery, all
that stuff. It's almost like I'm still playing from that perspective.
I still have that same mentality.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
I love that all right, Time to eliminate some some friends.
Time to some hearts. Best offensive weapon that you've ever had?
You got to play with la Danian Thomas and Jimmy Graham,
Alvin Kamara, Darren Sprolls, Michael to You got to play
with a lot of specimens. Yeah, who's your favorite offensive
weapon you've ever played with?

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
I'll be honest with you, man, I might say, darren Sproles.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
Oh okay, well these rolls.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Would you want to call it? Cover Sprolls out of
the backfield?

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:43:23):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
When he was in Philly and I would have him
out in the flat when I was on the Redskins
and he wouldn't catch the ball, I'd be like, Hey,
I'm really glad Sam Bradford did not throw you this
ball out here. We pat each other on the helmet,
jog back.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
To the hutches. Yeah. You know what it's like. You
can have such a great defensive scheme, right, you can
have such a great pressure or you know, pass rush,
stunt or bracket coverage or whatever you know on tight
ends receivers, but like that, running back out of the

(01:43:56):
backfield can ruin your day as a as a defense
and as a defensive coordinator. So I just I taught,
you know, talking to our own defensive coordinators when we
had sprolls and then just watching you know, his career
and obviously what I know about him, he was just
such a weapon and a matchup problem and and like

(01:44:18):
we could find ways to beat you in so many,
so many different ways with him. The other thing too,
was he didn't get enough credit as a runner yet. No,
he was not a big guy. I mean he was
five seven, one hundred and eighty pounds maybe. But here's
the other thing. Will like hard to see him when
he's behind lineman right like in the zone, in the

(01:44:39):
zone game, so like, he was slippery, slippery, and man,
the minute that he like one cut found his lane, boy,
he was gone, right and then good luck open field
tackling him.

Speaker 12 (01:44:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
So like, for all those reasons, he just he was
a weapon that I like, I call him a generational player,
like generational if you know how to use him. And
as durable as he was. And I'm not even I
didn't even talk about the special team's game like him
returning punts is one of the best punt returners, probably

(01:45:11):
top three, top five of all time, all time. Yeah,
so yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
He was special and I think too. It's like people
don't understand, like, especially when you get in the red
zone and that halfback option comes alive. You got to
do like one or two things. Like as a coordinator,
you're thinking, hey, will or any linebacker, it's like, take
away the space, stay inside. But everybody knows this running
back is gonna win nine times out of ten, So
what do you got to do to kind of help

(01:45:38):
with that out. You're gonna have to give like a
bam call to your edge rusher, so you're kind of
taking the edge rusher out of pressure. So if you're
aligning him too, hey, let's put him on the side
where the best pass rusher is and the backer back
there's got to give him a bam call. He's giving
a bam call. Pass rush is Matt, he doesn't get
the rush of passer. You're kind of arguing on the
sidelight and say, bro, I've got like I'm not gonna
be able to cut any linebacker. You're not able to

(01:46:00):
cover this dude, and you're gonna get because they want
to bracket take away the stars everywhere else. But it's
a fucking running back out of the backfield. That's honestly
the problem because you're not and again you're not lined up,
you're not on the line of scrimmage to where if
you're pressing or you're playing at say five yards, it's
not like the fundamental coverage of a receiver. This dude's

(01:46:21):
coming out of the backfield, who can stem you before
he even gets to where he's actually gonna make his cut,
which makes it insanely harder. Cordators will try to put
a safety down. Okay, let's get Willie boy all the game,
or let's get this backer who probably can't cover out
of the game. You'll put a safety in and they
show you still ten times out of ten, it's just
not gonna happen because it's not a it's not a
routine covered snap. It blows my mind and it'll always

(01:46:43):
piss me off.

Speaker 11 (01:46:43):
Dree.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
You can tell that will is he's telling us with
so much like fortitude. He's just so like aggressive the
way he's talking.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
No, no, But you know what, that was the part
that I forgot, Like just from a pass rush perspective,
he is exactly right like whenever sprolls he would line
up in the backfield to that week's side, Like all
of a sudden, that backer in a heartbeat is giving
that call to the end to try to chip them
all the way now right, Yeah, that affects the pass rush,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
You know that Thursday Friday when they're going over red
zone with Will, They're like, hey, you got sprolls this
week this it's keep it inside, And Will was like,
I got them coaching. I'm looking at the fucker's gotta
make me do this.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
I'm looking at.

Speaker 10 (01:47:24):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
Oh yeah, I'm telling I'm like, Bro, I'm bamming you, like,
that's this is what if I get say, trips far gunner,
I identify where I'm going to get god right, because
not all the time, just at the backs off set.
But if I know I'm in this situation and I
know this is what's coming, I'm fucking baming you, bro,
like you're gonna hit that dude, stop rushing passion.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Here's the other froll story and this just this kind
of just rounds out the total package. So we're playing
the Niners back when they had that legit defense. This
is like twenty thirteen. Oh yeah, Will, when we're we
have the chance to go down and beat them in
the end. So right, like we're on a two minute
drive and man sprolls is kill him out of the backfield,
this and that, and then there's this one moment where
we all a pass play that's a man beater, and
sure enough, here's Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman boy hitting

(01:48:05):
these a gaps right and Sposey's in the backfield. And
I remember, like right before the play, I said, hey, bro,
I'm not gonna do this to you often, but you
got a boat. You just got to bow up on
this state right now, right like you got to step
up and you got to handle this guy. We can
deliver this ball down the field and man coverage and
you go kick a field, go to win this game.
And dude, he steps up, and hey, those dudes were

(01:48:26):
oh yeah Bowman, oh yeah yeah, like the best.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
Of the yeah, one of the best pandems of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
Right, that's who everybody was watching. And Sposi comes up
and wow, right right in the chest of Bowman and
and just holds him off for long enough, right, so
we can deliver the ball down the field and man coverage,
like Jimmy Graham bidding field goal rains kick this game winner.
But again, like that's that's the other part of being
like a back that goes probably un you know, unappreciated.

(01:48:55):
You know, you talk a lot about what they can
do out of the backfield, You talk about the run game,
but at times they got step up and deliver a
blow on a guy and allow you to you know,
get the ball down the field the big situation. And
suppose he was always willing to do that at five
seven a buck eighty. Yeah, I love that pund dogs, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
I love that. Bud light question. Yeah, let's get out
of here, all right, Drew. We all know everyone would
do anything for an ice cold, crisp bud light.

Speaker 10 (01:49:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
If you could have a bud light with anybody in
the world, past or present, who would it be.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Oh wow, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
You know. I'm gonna say, uh, it's just the first
name that came to mind. I'm gonna say, Roger Stallbach.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
Roger stab Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
I just we were at the Cowboys Commander's game yesterday.
It was my son's birthday and his godfather is Brian Schotheimer.
So we were there. We were there watch watching the uh,
watching the Cowboys play, and I remember I remember and
stallbuck before the game, and I was just thinking, like
one of the one of the all time greats, one
of the all times legends. There's actually a great story
I sang the uh take me out to the ball

(01:50:12):
game at Wrigley Field with Roger stallback back when I
was in college. That that that that that's the story
for another time. Yeah, but anyway, he's he's one of
my all time favorites and cowboy legend. And I just
saw him yesterday, so that was the first name that
came to mind.

Speaker 4 (01:50:28):
I love it. Hey, we appreciate it, Drew. Thank you
for coming on. Thank you for sharing all those stories.
You're an absolute legend, Hall of famer, all the fun stuff.
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, the boy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
They're out over here, just pointing at the chair on
the bus. We'd love to have you on the bus
one day. But thank you for your time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
Bro, absolutely, man. Thanks guys, appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Just give right a plus drink. Appreciate you, Drew, have
a go on, man, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Yeah, what a guy.

Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
That was fun? Why what dude? It was fun?

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
Were you guys able to hear some of that. Yeah,
did he was fun. That was definitely one where I'm
checking the time. I'm like, we're only gonna have time
for a few more. But like stories like that you'd
love to get into, or just his lead. Yeah, speeches leadership.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Like he's like a Payton Manning type right where he
would just lose it on players at practice and like
send him the sideline.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
That's the thing too, Like him and Sean Payton, they
were the first. That was the first time I experienced where's.

Speaker 6 (01:51:37):
Mike gonna be still in the pot or we're gonna
cut this part?

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Oh sorry, I could be in the potty. You felt
like this is awesome. Yeah, what I was saying to
where was I out helping?

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
You were talking about Sean first time you experienced Sean
Payton and Drew Brees.

Speaker 4 (01:51:53):
Oh yeah, talking about his intensity and everything else like that.
That was when I was on the same So I
was kind of the first organization to where Sean Payton
would stop practice at any point of practice if something
came up, like not just like he had this plan,
but if a moment came up, or say an incompletion
or something happens, He's like thinking something in his mind
of a situation this could be in and they all

(01:52:13):
stop it, or Drew would have one. Everybody'd stop practice
and we would all come up as a team and
he'd be breaking down the situation. So that's why I
get fascinated because you also see clips too of Drew
Brees and Sean Payton sitting there the night before a
game like up late, going through every type of situational football.
And I'm thinking of that type of schooling that bo
Nix is getting, and it probably will even though he's

(01:52:33):
had so many starts, the difference in college and pros
and everything else, to where he's still very much immersed
in this like school of Sean Payton, to where he's
got the effect of wanting to learn it, but as
he continues to digest it, he'll like just continue to
get better because of how intense and situational I feel
like coach Coach Payton is.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
Yeah, and like you could see bo Nicks taking that
next step because you're right, like college and NFL are
completely different sports, so there is gonna take some I
don't even know Bodenicks played sixty games or whatever many
it was, but you see it in that last drive
after Jackson Dart has that running for the touchdown. The
way he is working the sidelines and with time in
the middle of the field, he's from a situational football standpoint.
He's figuring it out quickly because they know exactly the

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yardlin that you have to get to. You don't have
like the red line on the screen that all of
us are watching, and they know like, hey, our kicker
is great, best from this area, from this hash he's
working it. It's it's very impressive to see. So that
makes a lot of sense. You're talking about like Sean
Payton sitting there, he sees the situation that practice, like,
let's break this down for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:53:33):
So they know the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Yeah, that's awesome. That's just good coaching.

Speaker 4 (01:53:38):
Get you juiced up. I can't imagine in those situations
where there's like there's no timeouts left, you're in a
double wall situation to where you're forcing them to throw
the ball to the inside. They might gain yardage, but
they're trying to maybe gain yardage and kick a field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Toh.

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
It's like, however much time is left on the clock,
let's call it anywhere between like twelve and sixteen seconds
to where it's like there it's a per second margin
on Hey, this isn't good to call double wall yet,
or we're all gonna this. The call is gonna be
double wall to where in college the coaching staff might
know this and the players don't. But in the NFL,
like everybody has everybody has to understand what's going on

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to where they're quizzing you throughout the week and everything else. Hey,
this situation happens, it's very specific, very particular. We're not
gonna be able to rep it in the game. We
might run at one time and walk through every other
week just to stay refreshed on it. But it's like
it's those situations where all players have to understand the
situational awareness of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
And you can tell the Giants were doing that in
that last drive because at the one where bo Nick
stes it to the middle of the field ends up
getting them into field goal range. There's two wide receivers
that are running similar routes where it seems like, oh there.

Speaker 4 (01:54:44):
Might felt like yeah like Courtland, yeah, Courtland, sudden it
kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Goes past him. But in that situation, if you're the
if you're dable you're the Giants coach, you need to
be telling these guys on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. If we're
in this position where I'm making them throw to the
middle field and we're in that twelve to sixteen second mark,
one guy makes attack, let's get two or three guys
on top of him as well.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
Right, don't get a penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
But lay on him. Let it drag out where they
have to kind of push you off, because they kicked
that ball with what two seconds left in the clock,
and what's that They spiked it, right, and so they
might not be able to put themselves in a position
to spike it if you have not just one guy
on there, but one, two, three guys where it's like,
we got to get this guy off. That's just little
things you can do when the seconds matter more than

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anything else and you're forcing the quarterbacks your throats in
the middle of.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
The field, right right. I want to say there was
a situation like that in college. Gee, did somebody on
here post a clip of like, you know, somebody catching
the ball, he's on the ground, everybody's kind of like
laying on him or diving on him.

Speaker 5 (01:55:41):
That was me that posted that, and honestly, it was
taking a little bit. Everybody was saying I was getting
upset with the refs. Really I was mad at our
play call. But it was before the half. We run
a play, We're trying to hurry up and clock it,
and their players were laying on top of us blatantly.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
That was one where it's like, that's a little that's
where that's where you probably will see a fly because
you got to kind of if you get the tackle,
make sure on top and just take your time getting up.
But it did seem like a few players they.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
Were just like shoving him down and walking out right.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
That is that is a penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
That should that should absolutely be a penalty. But yeah,
that it's that kind of stuff that just kind of
detail changes one little thing. Because if you watch that
Giants Broncos game, like Giants owned that entire game, had
it and then Jackson Dart throws a bad pick late
in the fourth quarter that lets them come back. I
don't know what the exact score.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
Was that many points to within like the last six minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Yeah, there were three lead changes in the last six.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
Minutes down touchdown, touchdown, touch down.

Speaker 5 (01:56:41):
Going into the fourth quarter. Bo Knicks had like eleven
Fantasy points and then he finished with thirty nine.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Yeah yeah, because that's my other league still lost. But
when I saw him still have thirty something, because I'm
like checking, I'm like, I'm checking the game through Fantasy,
and I did see him have like he didn't have
very many points, like well, you know, b Nicks like giants,
they must be they must be the real deal. And
then when I saw I got home in time to
watch the end of that game, and they're like four

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total touchdowns. I got there right when he was running
that like QB design run when they scored to go
up and then Jackson they go down. A couple you know,
calls like that, PI calls a little. I thought suspect
that they called on Riley Cross an exciting game. Exciting,
exciting game. We want to save that. I don't know.
We got Zach Bond coming on soon.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
Right, yeah, so let's let's temperate. Let's get to Zach Bond.

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Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
Buddy. First off, I know we had a lot of
football to get into. But that house, man, something about Forest.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
Green for me really sets the tone. Did you you
build this house yourself? Do you paint it yourself? What's
going on?

Speaker 10 (02:00:27):
Did not build it, but we did have it painted. Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:00:30):
Nice? Nice. Everybody's gotta paint their house.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Everybody's got to paint their house.

Speaker 10 (02:00:34):
This is that front sitting room that you never use. Yeah,
that's what I'm mean right now?

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
Yeah, get it and that's dialed up man, Brostoff. Congrats
on the big win.

Speaker 10 (02:00:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
Yeah, we needed that one.

Speaker 4 (02:00:44):
Gbot bro So soked to have you. I think you
are phenomenal. I think it's super impressive that you're somebody
that's been able to move from the outside to the inside.
I do have to ask Cam Scataboo.

Speaker 10 (02:01:03):
That's one of one of those guys you watch on
film and you're like, dang, he runs hard, but you
don't really know until you feel yourself. So I'm glad
we got him this week. Yeah, yeah, I'll just say that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
And he caught you kind of sideways too. If I'm
giving you the benefit of the doubt, I know you
can run, I know you can hit, but he kind
of had you sideways and just watching from the side,
ain't go seeing you go kvie your oh shiit that money?

Speaker 10 (02:01:25):
Yeah, that was a run across the field and get
my ass smack type play right there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
Listen, we got.

Speaker 10 (02:01:33):
I got to the sideline of I'm like, hey, dide
it look bad.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
That's the only way where you're watching next week. In
the position meetings too, like you know, you guys had
a tough loss, but just sitting there and t or
a defensive meeting or position meeting, you're just like, all right,
go ahead, skip through this.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
Yeah, yeah, you get to that plane, you just put
your head down hoping we just we just skip over
a couple of your buddies looking over at the corner, like, God,
damn that happened to you. But yeah, what it has
the energy and like in that building, you guys obviously
had a big, big week this week. Jalen Hurts throws
for a billion yards. Everybody's been saying, you guys can't
throw the ball. Everyone's like, hey, this is the best

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put together team, but we're lacking on deep. There's been
so much noise on the outside revolving around the Philadelphia Eagles.
What has it been like in the building for you
guys keeping the main thing, the main thing?

Speaker 10 (02:02:20):
Yeah, I think the noise in the in the media
is a lot louder than the noise in the locker room.
Like we get we get to the locker room and
it's like, what, what's what's the big fuss? Like we're
winning games for the most part, we're winning games and
we're doing an overall good job. So I think it's
all blown out of proportion and just keeping the main thing.
The main thing is the biggest thing winning games.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
A couple of weeks ago, when it was the Giants,
and just from your from your vantage point watching it happen,
the fourth Toush pushes in a row to go score,
knowing it was like, was it fourth and short? A
third and short? It's like, okay, we're gonna get two
opportunities at these you get it, you're the one yard line,
you continue to just do the Tousch push. I know,
watching it on TV, I'm sitting there, these dudes are

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really doing four Toush pushes. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:03:10):
Yeah. Usually I'm the guy that's like, yep, run it,
run it again, run it again. But after the third time,
I'm like, all right, all right, we gotta try something different. Yeah,
but the thing is that it works. And if you
run a play that works, why not keep running it?

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
Yeah? You got the Giants second time in three weeks
this week? What are the what are some things you
can go and watch the film, but from you as
a player being on that field when you guys play
them on Thursday night football, what are the things that
they did so well that made it difficult for you
guys on defense?

Speaker 6 (02:03:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:03:42):
I think just the theme this year has been like
as defending champions, like we're gonna get everyone's best shot.
Everyone's gonna come at us like with the with their
best game, like their best game plan, the physicality, their intensity,
and that's what it was that game. So just combating
that and coming with some swag at home?

Speaker 4 (02:04:01):
What was the taale?

Speaker 10 (02:04:02):
Like?

Speaker 4 (02:04:02):
Obviously it was a bad taste, But is this a
game now? You you beat the Vikings, which was a
massive win for you guys, especially again with all the
noise offensively, the question marks even defensively, you guys haven't
played your best football. I know you guys have had injuries.
But once that game is over against the Vikings, is
there like a salivation going on getting the Giants again
this quickly after the loss?

Speaker 10 (02:04:24):
Yeah, it's very rare that you play a team two
times like that close. Sometimes it'll be like one at
the beginning of the season and then one at the end.
But to get them this close, it's kind of weird,
to be honest, But good for us because we lost
and we get to get our lick back. But yeah,
I just got to get after it, honestly, because you.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
Know, like after New York wins that game in the
fashion that they did do it, it's like, you see,
it's like you got all the bulletin board material in
the world just to be like licking your chops for
this game. You got the you know, the Create Team Caucasians,
Jackson Dark Game, Skataboo, they're pot Like Scataboo's out their
post shirt list, like he's going viral for head button
walls and shit gets the hit on ozach Bonn. I

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know you're gonna be pissed off, brother, ready to go.

Speaker 10 (02:05:09):
Come on, man, we gotta get our lick back. We're
too competitive in this game to just lay down and
take it like that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
Buddy. I want to talk to you real quick about
you signing a one year deal for three and a
half million dollars with the Eagles. You're approve it deal
and you became an All Pro in that, Like for
all the players watching who sit there and they've been
the situation where they know they can be this caliber
of player and they have to go into a prove
it deal, Like, what is the mindset? What is the

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takeover for you to go not only become an All
Pro guy, but be wearing the green dot for an
elite defense who wins the Super Bowl and then eventually
we're gonna what was this the number was too big
for the piece of paper. A three year, fifty one
million dollar contract extension after that, like had to be
a lot of ups and downs and thought processes when
you're leaving the Saints going to the Eagles and that

(02:05:57):
year the offseason, what was that like for you?

Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
An inside back or two? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:06:02):
Yeah, leaving the Saints, I had, I had like two
paths I could have gone down. I could have like
stuck with being a special teams guy and played my
role and done a good job at that and played
a long time, made some money. But there was something
in me that was like, man, I know I can play.
I know I can play, whether it's inside or outside.
And I talked with my agent, my wife, my family,

(02:06:23):
and they're like, give it another shot, Like don't give
up on yourself just yet. And I didn't know what
position I was going to play coming to the Eagles
until I'm at the front door meeting the inside linebacker
coach's hand, and I'm like, all right, I guess I'm inside.
Let's figure this out. And we had a lot of
new guys in the culture here, so good, so I
just jumped right in and started winning games and playing well.

Speaker 4 (02:06:46):
Absolute specimen being a special teams demon because you can run.
I'm sitting here looking right now. It's what am I
seeing here holds his high school two hundred meter record
ran a twenty one point five at two hundred and
twenty pounds, Like, are you somebody's sitting there talking shit
with the boys on teams when they're talking about who
the fastest guy is.

Speaker 10 (02:07:04):
They never throw me in that conversation, but I always
need to get my respect, Like I'm fast too, but
you can.

Speaker 4 (02:07:11):
Fly, you can fly. I also see that you were
You play quarterback in high school through for about two
thousand yards and twenty touchdowns.

Speaker 10 (02:07:18):
Yeah, I played quarterback, but I was really just like
small town athlete, you know, get it in his hands.
Every time I was running the ball, I would drop
back knowing I'm about to take off and run. So
it's a lot of a lot of Russian.

Speaker 4 (02:07:31):
We gotta work on him just talking shit like yeah,
I was that dude. Yeah, like yeah, but you know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
You know what he is.

Speaker 3 (02:07:37):
He thinks he's telling you to the real media right now,
we're going to do an arrogant linebacker thought he was
the man in high school. Bro, if you're a cat.
I'm assuming you win both ways on the football field,
and you're playing quarterbacks dropping back and it's like, yeah,
you all know I'm gonna run, but I'm still gonna
go off on you guys no matter what.

Speaker 10 (02:07:57):
Yeah, there was some confidence there for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:07:59):
Yeah, all right, you know that little something, you know
he had the chin strap, chin strap on buckles, feeling
like Michael vicked times. Yeah, what kid.

Speaker 10 (02:08:07):
Didn't do that mouthguard hanging out? Yeah that was me.

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
What what's your what's your thought process when you look
at the Big ten and you see the state of
your alma mater, the Wisconsin Badgers right now? I hate
doing this. Ooh, but it's tough for Luke Fickle and
the boys. Man, what's going on there?

Speaker 10 (02:08:27):
I couldn't tell you. Man, it's when you think. Let
me ask you, when you think of Wisconsin football, what
do you think?

Speaker 3 (02:08:35):
I think a run game, run game, offensive lineman that
all could be in the NFL just three yards and
a cloud of dust until sixty forty fifty happens.

Speaker 4 (02:08:44):
And I'm thinking also thinking linebackers, your guys, defensive front seven.

Speaker 10 (02:08:48):
Yeah, yeah, you're thinking thirteen personnel, twenty one, twenty two
extra linement corn fed Wisconsin farm Boys.

Speaker 4 (02:08:56):
Yeah, besides watch Nurse.

Speaker 10 (02:08:59):
Yeah, when you watch him, now, that's not what I'm seeing.
That's not what I'm seeing. So I don't know. I
don't know. I don't want to. I'll keep my comments
to myself. But we need to win some games.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
You know, you don't have to say anything. I just know.
For me, like, I was fired up for the Fickle higher.
I thought he was one of the best head coaches
when he left Cincinnati. So I'm sitting here completely surprised
that he hasn't been able to get Wisconsin going because
you guys have been good. I mean, you guys whooped
our ass, but you guys have been good for a
long time. I felt running the ball, playing defense. I

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like Fickle, Like, I don't know a whole lot about
him other than how he did in Cincinnati. And I
know he's like him and Vrabel were, they're best friends. Yeah,
so I'm thinking, Okay, he's gonna bring this chip on
shoulder mentality, like this swagger, this no nonsense, all hard work,
everything else to Wisconsin. So I'm like, I'm shocked. I'm
sure like everybody else is just that Fickle hasn't worked

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out there.

Speaker 3 (02:09:53):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 10 (02:09:55):
Part of me was like giving him the benefit of
the doubt, like, Okay, he's got to get his guys
in here to Like, Yeah, if we're gonna switch the
system and switch what we do, like, we need different players.
We can't have these big, old old linemen running the
spread offense. So maybe just give it some time to
develop and get some different guys in there.

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
Exciting whites. You get to play with them on every
single down. They took the world by storm last year.
They end up starting their own podcast. Talk to me
about what Cooper Dead and Reid Blaking Ship are on
the field. How are these guys? Are they big communicators?

Speaker 10 (02:10:28):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:10:28):
Are these two dudes you hate? Just let them go play.
I want to know about their play style. What kind
of camaradi we have in the locker room.

Speaker 10 (02:10:35):
Yeah, I'll start with Reid. Read is the biggest communicator
at the safety spot. He like demands the coverage aspect
of our defense and a really good player. He knows
what's going on, he knows what's coming. And then Coop
is just a dog like I do it all. He's
strong in a run game. Coming up making tackles can cover. Hey,

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the exciting Whites are doing their thing.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
They are're putting together a good football team at the
end of this year.

Speaker 10 (02:11:07):
What what team am I on?

Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
I personally I love to claim you. I love to
claim you and say, Zach bond Is will be our
green dot on defense. Listen, if you weren't asking me
and I broke this down myself in December, you'll be
on the team. And then from there, it's what happens
whenever you know, guys kind of see it that they can.

(02:11:31):
You know, I'm not on the Ald White team. I
want to say, who is the Who's the safety for
the Ravens?

Speaker 10 (02:11:39):
Who Hamilton?

Speaker 4 (02:11:41):
Hamilton? I claimed him a couple of years ago, but
they were kind of breaking down the footage and he
said on a plane right after the game that he
was a part of the All White team. And I'll like, hey, buddy,
we got you, like he went to Notre Dame. You know,
we get to kind of have them for a year.
So it's more like I'll put the ball in your court.
I'll tell you what we love to have you. I'm
talking the world the red carpet out for your recruiting visit,

(02:12:02):
there might be a lot more ego and guys trying
to figure out who's gonna be playing on the roster.
I can guarantee you a starting spot right now on
the All White squad. You want to have it, you'll
be there. You got half yourself, you got half the
secondary already.

Speaker 10 (02:12:13):
You've got to say your parameters. I'm like, what are
you doing with the mix the mixed guys?

Speaker 4 (02:12:17):
Yeah, it's usually it's usually if they say it's usually
if they say the word or not they walk around
they're saying the word. It's, you know, the kind of
the language barrier a little bit. That's kind of my parameters.
And now like he seems like a seems like a
type of guy who's gonna be on the all White
squad this year?

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
Are you so you bringing this up? Are you saying, hey,
Will Compton, I would like to be on the All
White team this year. I like to make that squad.

Speaker 10 (02:12:41):
It's it's you guys are the head coaches.

Speaker 4 (02:12:43):
I guess yeah, trust me, you got you got you
because I already got the already got the pitch for you.
You got red, you got Cooper Degen. Riley Moss is
out there in Denver, super familiar with Cooper Degene. You
guys are communicating on the back end as well as
any any unit in the country. So listen, we would thrive.
We would thrive with you on the old white Hey,

(02:13:06):
what's this? I want you to school me up here?
What is this? What is this run Scape I'm hearing
about RuneScape? Runescpe? What is this RuneScape I'm hearing about?
You know, you did a you did a shout out
for the eagles or social post that's going viral. Yeah,
you played a big time as a kid.

Speaker 10 (02:13:23):
RuneScape's an old game that I used to play as
a kid. I think it came out like early two thousands,
like retro kind of like a World of Warcraft type
games that I just found out they have on mobile now,
so I hot back on and really been enjoying it.

Speaker 4 (02:13:40):
Did you ever play?

Speaker 10 (02:13:41):
You guys play? No?

Speaker 4 (02:13:42):
No, no.

Speaker 3 (02:13:42):
You can tell by Will's pronunciation of the game he
hasn't played the game yet. But I also have not
played the game. You bring up World of Warcraft? Are
you familiar at all with the oblo.

Speaker 10 (02:13:52):
No, damn, ask him about that.

Speaker 4 (02:13:54):
Ask him about that dinosaur one?

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
Oh arc You are you familiar with the game ARC.

Speaker 10 (02:13:59):
I've heard of our part of ARC. I played. I
played for probably twenty minutes, and I didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:03):
Yeah, that's that's fair because when you start, you're basically
in survival mode for the first fifty levels before you
can essentially sustain a life with these prehistoric animals. It's
very difficult to do. But I've I've found myself in
a very weird, weird world with ARC. My wife's one
of my wife's best friends met a guy on ARC.
They are now married in Canada. It's a long story.
You have too much, you don't have enough time.

Speaker 4 (02:14:25):
We can talk. My problem with ARC is just that
you could build up all these levels, but if some
crew comes in and takes you over, you're starting from
ground zero.

Speaker 3 (02:14:34):
Right, Right, That's why you need to see.

Speaker 4 (02:14:36):
Yeah, when you turn the game off, like you're still
like sleeping, you're alive.

Speaker 10 (02:14:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
You have to like essentially go to bed in the
game at any point, and it's always I'm not going
to say the ethnicity that gets you, but there's a
one there's one ethnicity that always comes and gets your
ass while you're gone.

Speaker 10 (02:14:50):
I know you're right, You're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (02:14:53):
But my buddy of my wife's friend, she got married
to a guy named Joe who's like gotta be top
fifty player in the world. And we meet him via
online and now we're like riding around in jet packs
like we were.

Speaker 4 (02:15:04):
We're living cush out there in the art world.

Speaker 3 (02:15:08):
You got to come back and revisit for a second.

Speaker 4 (02:15:10):
I love back in like the old Testament days. You're
marrying for like supreme protection. Yeah, and she married in
to somebody who's the top towns player.

Speaker 3 (02:15:18):
It's exactly that's exactly what she's doing right now. Uh,
talk to me about Vic Fangio. What kind of DC
are we? Is he like a players coach type of guy?
Is he a hard nosed cat and he's got a
good personality on him, like break him down.

Speaker 4 (02:15:33):
For se like, oh, he could be in a bad
mood today, let's not jab him a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (02:15:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:15:38):
No, he's kind of a player's coach and a like
a hard nosed guy. He wants everyone to succeed and
do their best, but at the same time he's like
gonna get on you to do it. But it's not
it's direct and indirect at the same time. Like he's
he'll drill into guys, but then he'll also like throw
a little shade or jabs. It's all accountability, is what
it comes down to.

Speaker 4 (02:16:00):
Somebody I'm absolutely terrified by is a Jalen Carter yep Oh.
Is there is anybody saying a word to him after
the Dallas Cowboys game from week one when he spent Yeah,
when he when the whole spit thing happened, or is
that he probably knows we're just gonna we're gonna let
the old boy be.

Speaker 10 (02:16:19):
He knew what he did. He knew immediately that what
he did was wrong. But yeah, we we we went
up and talked to him, like you can't be doing
that obviously. But there was a time last year and
I'm new, so I don't really know. JC is probably
Game three or four. He does what he does and
swims out of his gap to make a play. I
get it, but I in the game in the moment,

(02:16:40):
I'm like, you gotta be in your gap, like come on,
And He's like, don't tell me how to play football, bro,
And I'm like, hey, yeah, go ahead, Hey, I'll make
you right.

Speaker 3 (02:16:50):
Yeah you know what, Jac, You're absolutely right. I should
have been in your gap in that situation. I saw
what you were doing there.

Speaker 4 (02:16:56):
Zeb trying to do some like leadership stuff like hey
hey hey, come on, hey, I need you in this set.
Do that. This is how it hurts the back end. Man,
shut up. He'll teach me how to play football. Hey,
big guy, that's on me. You're right, you know what.

Speaker 10 (02:17:09):
I really really good dude, though, really good dude, solid dude,
great football.

Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
No it sounds like a terrifying dude, but a solid dude. Nonetheless,
this is the guy, tam Yes, yeah, yeah, it's the guy.

Speaker 4 (02:17:21):
He's like, really good dude, Yes, as long as he's
got my.

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
Bright like as he's got my picture like Zach Bond
and like five other guys that way over two to
eighty walking up to j C being like you understand,
like we probably shouldn't spit on guys, right, and just
kind of like waiting to see how he handles.

Speaker 4 (02:17:36):
Or like when they're walking up to him, like hey,
so ZB, you're going to say are you going to
say the first like are you going to start the conversation?

Speaker 3 (02:17:42):
And yeah yeah, and then ZB walks up He's like, hey, man, Lane,
wanted to tell you something real quick. I just want
to let you know they just put Lane n Lane
Johnson under the bus, like you got to handle this.

Speaker 10 (02:17:52):
It's the funniest thing is on like punt Safe when
we leave our defense out there, just going up to
the like the right guard and be like, hey, JC,
that poor.

Speaker 4 (02:18:04):
Bastard's bucklet is just a little bit tight in there,
right guard And I'm just hearing that, and he big
dog like, you know we can yeah, yeah, And I
promise you we're not We are not running up we'ren
I swear to guy.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
Dude, one guy that brought up j C and like
the hey you got this guy. Awesome guy, but definitely
you don't want to get on his bad side. Big
Dom was talking about him when we were at camp.
You don't seem like the guy that Big Dom has
to deal with all of the time. But how crucial
is Big Dom to the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 10 (02:18:38):
Big Dom is huge. He's got all the little insights
on everyone. He knows what everyone around the building is doing,
who they're talking to, who they're hanging out with. He's
he's intertwined not only with the Eagles, but like the
whole city. He's in there.

Speaker 3 (02:18:53):
Yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down sopranos.

Speaker 10 (02:18:56):
I mean he might be, he might be not confirmed.

Speaker 3 (02:18:58):
Not confirmed. That is exactly he wants. He wants us guessing.

Speaker 4 (02:19:01):
It's one of those I feel like big Doms, like
the noise could be super loud around the Eagles the
locker room. It's like it's louder than it is in
the locker room. But if you want to know something,
you just go up like, hey, big Dom, do we
have this? Is everything kind of figured out with so
and so or between these guys and just kind of
like a nod. Yeah, we gotta take Carol.

Speaker 3 (02:19:18):
Yeah. Dom's always a guy. It's gonna yeah, Yeah, I'm
unhandling it. I'm handling it, no problem.

Speaker 4 (02:19:24):
Should we do a bud light question?

Speaker 6 (02:19:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:19:27):
Like question, all right, Zach. People would do anything for
an ice cold bud light, no doubt. Umm having a
bud light with somebody who is somebody that you'd love
to sit down and have an ice cold bud light with,
whether it's past present, somebody that you just love to
have a few beers with, some conversations, some fun, could

(02:19:47):
be anybody, anybody.

Speaker 10 (02:19:51):
I'll keep it in the football world and I'll say
Darren Rizzy, the special teams coordinator for the Broncos. Yeah,
no shit, great dude, great dude, awesome dude. He was
my coordinator with the Saints. Yeah. I would definitely have
more than one bud light with him.

Speaker 4 (02:20:06):
Dude. He always had the vibes high. When I was
again there for a couple of coffee. You go into
the special teams meeting and that you guys would have
shirts going on for plays that get made, and everybody
seemed to love this dude. And then when he was
the interim head coach, what was it a couple of
years ago where he stepped in Yeah last year, Yeah,
last year and out of the gate. I want to

(02:20:26):
say the Saints. They ended up winning a couple of
games with them.

Speaker 3 (02:20:29):
It always happens an interim head coach except for the Titan.

Speaker 10 (02:20:31):
Just a great dude, Just a great dude, especially.

Speaker 4 (02:20:33):
When it's a special teams coordinator too. So you two
played together with the Saints. I don't know, if I
don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:20:38):
Possibly I wasn't. I wasn't with you. I was like
right after you, yeah, because you were you were there
in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (02:20:44):
Twenty nineteen was when I was there in training camp
for a moment, I was ready to light the world
on fire, but you know, I caught a little ankle.

Speaker 3 (02:20:50):
Spray, little ankle spray. Had to get that.

Speaker 10 (02:20:54):
Down.

Speaker 4 (02:20:54):
Yeah, They're like alex ads alone was down and they
had I want to say, maybe a couple like inside
backers that were down. So I ended up getting brought
in around the third preseason game. Went into the fourth
preseason game to get reps at like one base before
we got ready for Week one because they needed a
base mike backer basically essentially until Alexandzeloni's shoulder got right.
And then I went down in that fourth preseason game.

(02:21:16):
It which sucked because the vibes of the Saints seemed awesome,
The locker room seemed the all time and Rizzy he
was talking about like guys just everybody like that was
a fun organization. For the moment I was there at
practice was fun everything. Yeah, and uh then after that,
I got a little injury settlement and then they that's
when they traded for Keiko Alonso and then Alexanderloni comes
back nights with the Lions, like playing some good ball, gotcha.

Speaker 10 (02:21:38):
But yeah, it seems like everyone that leaves the Saints
is playing good ball right now? All right, everyone, everyone
that leaves the Saints has a seat on their chest
playing playing good football.

Speaker 3 (02:21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:21:48):
And then the old guard, the captains like Cam Jordan
and the Mario Davis like they're still sticking around, and
it's like, fuck boys, we've got to put some good
ball together right now. We got our teeth have been
cutting this organization for two all.

Speaker 10 (02:22:01):
No doubt about tough times down there, Zach.

Speaker 3 (02:22:04):
We appreciate you coming on the show man. This has
been awesome. I can't wait for December when Will comes
out with this all white, all black team. I'm assuming I.

Speaker 4 (02:22:11):
Don't do I'll do the other sides for everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:22:13):
Oh yeah, sorry, all white team, that's right. Yeah. I
think the line right now, the futures line is minus
what thirty one and a half?

Speaker 4 (02:22:22):
No, I don't think truly, I don't think it's that
deep at all. I promise you we got a squad
and we get better each and every year a new
dB comes in the league.

Speaker 10 (02:22:30):
Yeah, okay, do you think that's where you're light? Always?
Department always?

Speaker 4 (02:22:34):
I think, yeah, one thousand percent. I mean, think of
what other position group are we potentially light in like
we're deep along the trenches. We got second level players.
We got us you know, tight in. We got guys
like a wide receiver. Surprisingly, we got some good depth there. Yeah,
Pooka Nakoula. He hasn't said nothing over the last couple

(02:22:54):
of years. So well I've been able to claim him
and get away with it.

Speaker 10 (02:22:57):
That's that's that he's probably that is between the Paully's.

Speaker 3 (02:23:02):
The Paulis are fair game.

Speaker 4 (02:23:04):
I'm thinking Polly he was what a fifth round guy? Yeah,
so that's e shinder type of grinder mentality.

Speaker 3 (02:23:10):
Yeah, ran a little slower, little slower forty like just
put the tape on. He's got game speed. That's when
you know that's our guy.

Speaker 4 (02:23:19):
You know, that's our goal. We gotta do is just filter,
just filter this episode just a little bit more, because
right now we got Zach. We got Zach ball.

Speaker 3 (02:23:27):
Yeah, and it's gonna come out. But Zach, how do
you feel about this? And it's up to you to
be standing here, to be on a plane under away game.
Jac's gonna coach and be like, man, what's this about, dude?

Speaker 4 (02:23:37):
You got the ball ahead, you got a nice goate
going on that screams, I got a Harley in the
in the garage, right fun?

Speaker 10 (02:23:50):
Is your hair growing back little?

Speaker 4 (02:23:51):
I'll show you, Yeah, it's it's grown back pretty well.
I do have kind of the m set and it's
a little lighter in the cold de sac here. You
could land a plane on it if you wanted to.
But we're coming back pretty strong right now. In my opinion,
I like it in my heads.

Speaker 10 (02:24:05):
Are you going to grow grow it out? Or was
that like a test test to see if you had
to shave it?

Speaker 4 (02:24:11):
My wife really wants me to grow it out. But
I'll be honest, I really don't mind the short hair life,
even the bald head. I didn't mind the bold head.

Speaker 3 (02:24:18):
Look.

Speaker 4 (02:24:18):
Would you think, like you're a fellow bald guy, Like,
would you love me wrapping the bold squad?

Speaker 10 (02:24:22):
Absolutely, it's all about It's all about the head shape.
Like if you've got a solid head shape, you can
and facial hair you can, you can join.

Speaker 4 (02:24:29):
So you think I pull up the head shape, well.

Speaker 10 (02:24:32):
I think it's solid. Once you get a little tan
up up top there, you'll be all right.

Speaker 4 (02:24:36):
That's the key. That's the key. You get some sunlight
on it, dude, we appreciate you, man, Thank you for
taking time on a Monday. Good luck this week, get
fucking get your guys, revenge back, get the mojo going again.
In the off season, we would absolutely love to have
you on the bus so we can do a little
bit more long form. We're not in the middle of
the season. Yeah, a couple of things. We gotta, you know,
you gotta kind of hey, we're having fun on the show,

(02:24:57):
but also we're in the middle of the season. But
we would love to have you on in Nashville in
the offseason.

Speaker 10 (02:25:02):
Yeah, I gotta get down there have to be sick.

Speaker 4 (02:25:05):
Apprecire brother, appreciate everybody, give me one of plus.

Speaker 10 (02:25:09):
Thanks for having me, guys, I love that.

Speaker 4 (02:25:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:25:11):
Broing on man, it is a pain in the ass
to do this during the season, so it does mean
a lot.

Speaker 10 (02:25:14):
Yeah, is this the first virtual one you guys have done.

Speaker 4 (02:25:18):
We've just started kind of doing virtuals. You're kind of
he's like the first player that we've had after a
game virtual. We've been trying to get like college coaches
will hop on. We haven't gotten any NFL coach yet,
but we've kind of pivoted to where we're gonna get
some more virtual stuff just because people love talking football.

Speaker 3 (02:25:34):
Twenty four sevens Yeah this this season, it's either football
or nothing. If we put anything else out there other
than the football, they're like, get it out of here.

Speaker 4 (02:25:40):
But yeah, you're the first player, so we appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (02:25:43):
Yeah, you guys are killing it. Dude, I'm sorry I
missed you during training camps.

Speaker 4 (02:25:46):
Oh you're good man, good good man, Thank you, brother
of us.

Speaker 3 (02:25:49):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (02:25:50):
Man.

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