The Blue Jays rallied to take Game 4 of the World Series and tie things up, just a day after losing to the Dodgers in 18-innings. Were the Dodger feeling the effects of the 18-innings more? If anybody had an excuse to be a little less than perfect, it was Shohei, pitching after being on base 9 times the day before. It seemed like the Dodgers were built to take this series in 4 or 5 games, but now we will have a game 6 and head back to Toronto. With the current state of Mariners hangover/depression, are we able to look at this season and recognize that this team doesn’t suck and hasn’t sucked? These aren’t the “same ol’ Mariners.” :30- College football is once again a little out-of-control and this time, it’s all about the coaches as firings and buyouts are costing a lot of money. Is this sustainable? We talked to Rick Neuheisel about it! :45- The Kraken managed an exciting come-from-behind point last night after falling into a 3-0 hole against the Canadiens. The 3rd period was all they needed to erase the deficit and send the game to OT.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Some time.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Good morning class, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, behold
in producing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
high school basketball stand What in the hell.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Does that mean? Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god,
You've got to lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped tex athlete.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
A five seven guard and a former college water polo
national champions.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
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Speaker 4 (00:54):
You go?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, good morning to you. Welcome into this edition of
Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point
three k j R f M. It is a Humphy
that's right, Wednesday edition of the program, and on Wednesdays
we go till ten o'clock. Yeah, Wednesday, So today we're doing. Yeah, yeah,
today we're going all the way till ten o'clock.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Wow, yeah, really giving it to the listeners today.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That a little extra special. On Wednesdays, like Wednesday thing,
Thursdays we only go to ten o'clock. On Wednesdays we
always go all the way all the way there, and
then Thursdays, you know, only to ten. Yeah, and then
Fridays we just negotiate till ten right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Right, people, a great deal. Totally following what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes we just feel a little
over ambitious sometimes, you know, it's not all we there.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, we grind it out.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah. But today today ten o'clock, it's Ashley Ryan, it's
former Mariner Bucky Jacobson, it's Chuck Powell with you as
we get things started. And man, boy, I tell you what,
once upon a time here in our office, I've often
entertained the theory that if you wanted to, you could
(02:21):
I mean, it wouldn't be a great life, but you
could get all the food that you needed to live
by just living at a radio station. Yeah, that you
could just get the free stuff that comes in. And
then I mean, I don't think it's a great quality
of life. But you could you could survive just by
off the free food that comes into a radio station
(02:43):
during the given week. But it the quality of the
food that comes in is is often interesting. Like once
upon a time, we had a guava candy that somebody
brought in. Remember that, Yeah, and it was here for
nineteen and a half years. I just sat out there
on a tato. I think I tried it and spit
(03:03):
it out. But the guava candy lasted forever. It might
still be in somebody's desk or pocket. I have like
a butterscotch. Yeah, but boy, you bring in some varsity
level Halloween candy prior to Halloween, Like the same bucket
comes in last week and excuse me, next week, it
(03:25):
comes in next week. Maybe it lingers a little bit longer.
Maybe it sticks around a lot because everybody had their
fill of Halloween candy over the weekend and they have
too much at home. But you bring it in. You
bring in the A level, the Reese's peanut butter cups,
the Snickers, the twigs, and you put a bucket out.
It's almost gone twenty four hours. I don't know. Probably
Jessaman brought that in.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
It was actually Mark, is that Mr Glenn? Yeah, he
has a soul?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
To find out the head haun show about in Varsity
level Halloween Candy.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I learned that from his significantly better other Is that right?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Probably a trick well, that he has a soul or that.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
And actually it was like I was eating a piece.
I said, you get some of this and she goes, no,
Mark brought that in, I think, meaning like she didn't
want it in the house. Probably that enough maybe, and
then she says yeah, I said, really Marked, and know
yeah he does have a soul.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oh okay, so both.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, so I learned both.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And there's milk duds in there.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I know, Man, I typically don't eat while I'm here,
and yet yesterday I indulged.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I like four or five myself.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I mean when you got a bucket full of the
good stuff was running, you just walked by it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, it was like it was the good stuff, like
you said, and the top run is over. I was like,
it's gonna spill if I don't get the top of
this taken care of.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I started trying to dig through to see if there
was anything in there I could eat, and it was
like I felt like someone had stolen my puppy.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I was like, if you'd like, I could, like,
I could suck the chocolate off of the milk duds
and then give it caramel.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Caramel's got milk in it too. Oh yeah, I mean
she stiok, headsets you had on your butt? Why would
she stop? Short?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean I could lick all the chocolate off a cat.
You could have the wafers.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
You could have the wafers moist, moist wafers.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Oh, I'm trying to help here.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I prefer my wafers dry. I'm proud of you,
Thank you, thanks for going the extra mile. There's no
pleasing her. I'm in the microwave after. That's a better idea,
crispy wafers. I'm glad we've come up with this play together.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'll get it. I'll get started on this, saying it's
better than going without. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, I'd prefer if you would lick the chocolate off
a Reze's peanut butter cup and then I could have
the peanut butter.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
In the middle. Done.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, alright, that's really easy. We'll get that done. Yeah,
you like caramels, Milk dud's become Carmels, real fast.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah, sad, sad life I live.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, welcome into the show here on this some morning.
We are actually I actually am going to highlight Halloween
candy and a couple of the segments later on in
the show, you know, worked them into the sports world
later on in the program. But we're going to begin.
I want to begin with the World Series, but certainly
(06:18):
I want this morning. I mean, yesterday was about just we.
It was of this the game, one of the greatest
games we've ever seen. Last night though, got me thinking
though more about how it does sort of mirror or
reflect reflect is the better word the Mariners. But let's
start first, though, Bucky just talking about the game itself.
(06:42):
The Blue Jays won it by final score of six
to two. Shoe a Otani started in the game, and look,
we were two of the people that didn't think that
the fifteen inning affair was going to be as debilitating
to the Mariners in Toronto as so many were suggesting.
And both teams played eighteen innings the night before, but
(07:04):
only one team had a pitcher who got on base
nine times the previous evening, and so I don't know
maybe that did impact that show A wasn't quite as
sharp as I mean, he wasn't bad, but they decided
to extend him into the seventh inning, which might have
been a mistake. The night after he got on base
nine times in an eighteen inning game, and he's a DH.
(07:26):
But you know what, every time you're getting ready, you
correct me if I'm wrong. Every time you get ready
to go to the plate and you're the DH, you're
probably in the tunnel taking a few hacks. So he
did that nine times the previous night, and he ran
the bases nine times the previous night, So I'm not
sure it should all be that big of a surprise
that maybe if anybody had an excuse for being a
(07:49):
little bit tired last night that was on the mound
by the seventh inning, it might be sho Heyo Tani
over Shane Bieber.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Uh. Yeah, we definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Didn't impact the game.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I don't know, I don't know a goot impact of
the game. And we there's really no way to tell
unless he you know, we know that he was after
getting on base nine times, which is absurd. I mean,
I maybe there was a time or two that I
got on base five times in a game, and I
can tell you I was significantly more tired. Not drastically,
(08:21):
not like, oh my god, can't go on, He's not
running that far, You're not running a triathle. But there's
certain times where you just were on base more, especially
if you ended up having a you know, maybe a
couple of AB's where there's full count, two outs, you're
running foul ball, running foul ball, stuff like that that
you you noticed like, wow, that was I exerted more today.
(08:41):
And we saw a show Hey kind of stretching his
calf out like he was cramping up because he was
on base every damn time, and and you know he
was actually trying to steal bases. And I mean, I
guess a couple of times he wasn't he was on base,
but he just jogged around them. But other times there's
doubles and he's just you know, sprinting to second base.
It was I think he was probably more fatigue than
(09:03):
typically getting ready for a start.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And also, like our pitchers are slaves to their routines,
our guys our slaves. And we've talked about a lot
during the season, like a rain delay seems to affect
us more than it does the other team because Logan
Gilbert is so precise in his you know, in his
build up. George Kirby, I think is the same way.
I think maybe Bryce Miller lesser than Brian Will slightly
(09:29):
lesser than But our guys are affected by that, especially
in today's modern game. I mean, once upon a time,
you know, George Brett rolled in from the bar and
went three for four. You know, I think they are
a little bit differently. And if you think our guys are,
the Japanese approach is completely different. Yeah, So to get
out of there's no way that Shoe a Otani could
have stayed in his routine after eighteen innings the night before,
(09:53):
had to go home and sleep, come back to the ballpark,
and then do it all over the next day while
also incorporating his pitching prep. So I don't know, he
seemed fine for six innings, but maybe Dave Roberts asked
a little bit too much out of a guy that
got on base nine times the night before to have
him go out for the seventh and that was the
difference in the game. That seventh inning is where Toronto
(10:15):
pulled away.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean I would think, I mean Ultimately, if
you take the seventh inning where he gave up a
couple of knocks to start that and then was pulled,
I mean he would He went five innings, four hits
and two runs, and it really was a mistake to
Vlad Guerrero, who's on fire this entire postseason, and took
him yard. And so you're still sitting at a two
to one ball game and you've you've taxed your bullpen
(10:38):
because of the eighteen innings before, and they don't really
typically trust their bullpen a whole heck of a lot
as it is, right and for good reason. Outside of
the performance that they had in the in the eighteen
inning affair the night before, it's probably one of those
like I think we'll just go ahead and ride this.
I mean, he wasn't. It wasn't like he was getting
rocked and having to wiggle out of trouble. He was.
(10:58):
I mean, he allowed you know, base runners basically up
to up through five innings, so it was like.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Fine, but maybe the seventh was.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Just still ran ran out of gas. I think it's
part that. I think it's more so you know, as
much as you know there's a I got a you
know I'm irritated with the Toronto Blue Jays because they
knocked us out. There's an old school way that they
play the game is that is one that plays when
you're tired and when you you know, the emotional toll
(11:30):
that it takes on you to play eighteen innings and
lose is far different than the emotional toll to play
ateen innings and come out victorious. And so it's one
of those all right, boys, that's time to dig deep,
it's time to we got to go get Shoho Tani.
They get to go against Shane Bieber, who by all
accounts is pitching well in the postseason coming off Tommy
(11:51):
John and he's doing what they're they're asking of him
to do it just keep them in the ballgame. You
just kind of felt like, boy, this is a I
can see how bang bang and this thing's over and
five yeah. Yeah. And yet the old school mentality, and
I don't know who it was on Toronto, I think
it was after they beat us, ended up saying it
might have been Beaber old school wins, Old school wins.
(12:13):
Like there's something about the mentality that the Blue Jays
are playing with that is like us against the world
or US against right right now, it's US against this
you know Dodgers team that you know by all accounts,
I mean, its spent the most money out there, and
I know the Mets are up there too, but it's
just this team is like they should win. Everybody thinks
they should win, and the Blue Jays are like, well,
(12:35):
I'm gonna raise my hand here. I think maybe we
have something to say about that, like on a regular basis.
So I think they answered the bell better than than
the Dodgers just did up and down the lineup.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, that dovetails perfectly into the topic that I did
want to bring up because we're four games into this
series and I thought the Dodgers were gonna take it
in four to five games. I really did. I think they.
I probably would have given the same prognosis had the
Mariners made it. I just thought the Dogs, the way
that they're constructed, how healthy they're starting pitching was. I mean,
(13:04):
it's the best rotation money can buy, and for the
first time in this modern era, all of their pitchers
were healthy at the exact right time and just muwing
through people like threshers through wheat. That's how they'd performed
throughout the postseason. So I probably would have given the
same prediction had the Mariners made it to the World Series.
(13:25):
But it did sort of with Toronto, like you said,
playing their game last night, bouncing back from an eighteen
inning loss from the previous night. And really, as much
as I brought up showey Otani, John Smoltz pointed out,
it was their ability just to put the ball in
play and see what can happen. Jimenez with his big
two strike hit the other way, and ty France even
(13:48):
hitting a ground ball the second base and not grounding
into a double play and just bringing in a run.
That sort of approach is probably the primary thing that
led to their victy last night. And it just it
just struck me as everybody's in Mariner hangover, in a
state of Mariner depression for a long time. We had
(14:09):
to beat down. And this is the thing that if
I got angry during the last five years, during the
Jerry Depoto era, it was people just saying the moment
the Mariners didn't accomplish what we wanted them to accomplish,
they sucked.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
They're terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That was the That's where everybody went, and everybody needs
to be fired. Those are the things that if I
ever got angry and yelled and got worked up, it
was over that mentality that the moment the Mariners don't
achieve what we thought they could achieve or should achieve,
it was automatically same old Mariners. They stink, not the
(14:48):
same old Mariners. Has not been the same old Mariners
for the last five years. This is a completely different
approach that they have taken. And we are so well
set up for the future and should be on a
four game, four season playoff streak and the process. But
I hope that people and I know that there's no
(15:09):
moral victories here, but watching the Blue Jays even things
up with the Dodgers. I mean, we went through this
season hearing they stink same old Mariners. No no, no, no, no, no, no.
The Seattle Mariners are as good as any team in
Major League Baseball. They can play with anybody, including the
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Dodgers and obviously the Blue Jays. We came within eight outs.
We came within one swing because if George Springer doesn't
hit that home run, I think we win. We came
within one swing of being in this World Series and
maybe even with the Dodgers at two games apiece. So
I realize we haven't made the World Series, and that
(15:51):
continues to haunt everybody in this city. And it should
I mean you should. You shouldn't be satisfied. I heard
this promo coming in. You shouldn't be satisfied. It was
a successful season. But nobody's satisfied. The organization's not satisfied. You,
the fans shouldn't be satisfied. Hi, the talk show its
Tom not satisfied. There's more to achieve. They gotta make
the World Series. They got to win a World Series.
(16:13):
Otherwise you have floundered an amazing job of creating this
foundation to win consistently over a decade or more. But
we are so close, and I get it. That's very
little solace that you can take right now, and you
don't want to think about moral victories. But four games
(16:35):
into this series, two games apiece, two teams that seem
pretty evenly fought, and we came within a swing of
beating that one of those teams and being in the
same situation.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
We are there.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
We are there. It is hard to win a World Series,
even getting into the playoffs, even with home field advantage,
even with a buye in the first round. It is hard.
I mean, it felt we were only in two rounds.
We only participated in two rounds of the playoffs. It
felt like three and a half years of our lives
we were taken. And so it is hard ass work to
win it all. But man, we're right there. We can
(17:08):
compete with the best in the game and are set
up to do so for the next five to ten years.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, I think that everybody is entitled to You can
have your opinion. It's just I mean, I think the cold,
hard truth is that people should realize that the two
things can be true. You can think that this season
was a success and yet not successful enough like it's
it was just it was a good year. They obviously
made the playoffs. They get they got to the second
(17:36):
second you know rank or whatever they finished second to
where they get a bye. They you know, they fought
hard to get out of the first round against Detroit,
which ultimately a lot of people can say Detroit isn't good.
They you know, they they shouldn't have even went to
five games or whatever. You can say whatever you want
Detroit up until you know, a month and a half
(17:59):
towards the end of the season. There, I mean they
were one of the better teams in the American League,
and they have an ace that we had to end
up beat twice. It to me, it's the idea of
if you can't recognize this team is on par with
the best teams out there, like you're right there, like
you that's what you know. Like, I'm not sure what
I feel about Jerry Depoto, but it wasn't. One of
(18:21):
the things that is pretty evident, and he's basically been
open about it, is that he's trying to build something
that year after year will compete to be in the playoffs.
So you have a contender because they feel that the
way that they're building a team that gets into the
playoffs could be dangerous in the postseason, and this team
most certainly could have. I mean, I think that two
things that can be true are I think that our
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pitching staff didn't really perform as well as they can
or possibly you're in the World Series now. But I
also think that part of that is tip your cap
to the Blue Jays because they had a game plan
against good pitching that makes it difficult for good pitching
to be flawless. Yesterday, to me, the Otani mows down
(19:03):
the first couple hitters, and then they grind out two
AB's that made it to where he still threw twenty
pitches in the first inning. That allows Vladimir Guerrero to
come up in the third inning to hit the two
run homer that basically put them ahead for good at
that point in time. It's those little tiny things that
the first inning didn't amount to anything. They get a
(19:23):
walk and a single, and then Alejandro Kirk gets out,
but it was more than that, just letting him mow
your guys down one, two, three. So I mean, to me,
there's an old school thing, and I think the old
school thing plays against anybody, and it played against us.
But to think that we're not on par with the
team out there, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
How many times the last few years I've driven around
listening to various hosts on various stations just constantly say, well,
we're not in the same category as the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
That's clear.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
What are you talking about? Of course we are. The
only reason absolutely are.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
The only reason we're not is because they they would
look at any season and where they're not going to
the World Series as a failure because they've been there
so many times. I think that would be like the
one reason that we wouldn't be in the same category,
because I don't think we can look at not going
to the World Series as a failure. It could be
a disappointment, but I don't think it's a failure.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All right, let's find out what is on tap for
today's radio program people. What's on TEP?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What's on TEP?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Toronto wins six to two over the Dodgers. The series
is even at two games a piece. Now Game five
will be tonight. It'll be a savage for the Blue Jays,
Blake Snell for the Dodgers. Mariners offseason, of course is underway.
A lot of people talking about it. We will to
today as well our final ABC's of the MS today
(20:45):
at eight thirty. Also, Reckless at Breakfast Today will chomp
into that topic as well at seven forty five. The
Frozen Frenzy was held yesterday in the National Hockey League
the Kraken as every team in the NHL. A part
of it come from behind point for the Kraken, which
we'll talk about coming up here at six forty five. Also,
(21:06):
al Kiniski will join us at nine to thirty. Next
up for the Krack in the matchup with the Rangers
not until Saturday, though. Sounders Game two versus Minnesota United
will take place on Monday, so the Sounders have to
win back to back games in order to advance in
the playoffs. The Seahawks we are at hump day of
a week where they'll actually play. I don't know why
(21:28):
a bye week feels so long, but it just does.
They'll take on the Commanders this Sunday night. Greg Bell
will join us at seven oh five with the latest. Also,
we are six days away from the NFL trading deadline,
so we'll rip into that today as well. Huskies are
on by this week still, Cam Cleland will join us.
He's not on by, he'll be with us at eight o'clock.
And speaking of Huskies, we're five days away from Danny
(21:51):
Sprinkle and the Dogs starting their brand new season. The
college basketball season gets started Monday night as well. All right,
so a lot to discuss, clearly, But the big topic
right now in college athletics is the latest wave that
we didn't see in this new world of college football.
How did Rick new Eyesill react to all of the
(22:14):
college football head coach firings here in the last few weeks. Boy,
he went off yesterday and we're going to replace some
of that for you next on Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM, Husky's on Buy this week, which really
(22:40):
did open up the gates to discuss at great length
the college football top story this week, and that is
this new phenomenon that has taken place. I mean, there
are some things that you just can't see coming with
the new world of college football. I continuously be surprised. Continuely,
(23:00):
I'm surprised. You know, you feel like you fix one thing,
but what kind of a problem does that create in
another area? And then once you get that taken care of,
inevitably something else is going to pop up that you
didn't see coming. And now you got to get your
arms wrapped around that. Maybe some people don't see these
(23:20):
college football head coaching firings in the middle of the
year as an issue, but I personally do. I personally
think that it is unsustainable to take a good coach
with a lot of money left on his deal, fire
him eat that money in a world where everybody complains
about how they don't have any money, and then try
(23:43):
and find a replacement that's going to deliver championship caliber football,
and if he falls just a little bit short, you
really have set the president that that's fireable offense. So
it feels to me like it's unsustainable. I feel like
it's another fai or waive in this process, in this
new world of college football that people didn't see coming,
(24:06):
and now they got to figure out how to fix
it because it could be very detrimental. Right. Rick new
Isel was on with us on Tuesday, our College Football Insider,
and of course everybody can know Rick new Isel, and
I asked him about this very issue. Did you see
this coming? And is it sustainable?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
The answer to both of those are no, This is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I mean, Brian Kelly was thirty three and fourteen at LSU.
I mean thirty three and fourteen is Hall of Fame credentials.
You only have to be sixty I guess fifty nine
point five percent as a winning coach to be a
Hall of Famer or at least be considered as such.
That that is confounding, to say the least. And to
(24:52):
give him fifty four million bucks to walk out the
door is incredible. We're over one hundred fIF see million
dollars in dead money in a world where every athletic
director is telling you how financially challenged they are, and
we're doing that that makes no sense. And I will
tell you, and I said this a million times, so
(25:14):
you know I'm telling you the truth that my one
of my favorite years of my entire coaching career is
my last at Washington when we were four and five
and came back and won the Northwest Championship and beat
Oregon State, beat Oregon at Oregon and then beat Washington
State at Washington State when they were number three in
the country. To get that done and to get the
(25:37):
team to believe that, you know, how you deal with adversity,
that's part of the education that you're supposed to be
getting in college. Now we're giving an education that if
you're not doing every you know, winning championships, it's time
to quit and cancel Christmas. I don't get it it.
We've lost our way, and it's because we've given the
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pseudo owners, those that we keep going to for more
and more in terms of resources and money, financial support.
We've given them all kinds of now ability to make
the decisions. And that's just it's scary, it's frightening. And
it's nowhere that I think we should be or want
to be.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Breg new eyes old by this a little bit earlier
this week. This has been the big hot button topic
that has popped up now in college football. I couldn't
agree more with what he's saying, and I think that
was evident in the build up the lead up to
us playing that bit Bucky that segment. I just how
can you even keep this going? Like you're going to
fire good coaches with years and millions left on their contracts,
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and then what's the next LSU coach, given you're going
to try to convince a better coach to taking could
you take a little bit fewer years just in case
we don't like you and you're not competing at the
highest level so we don't have to eat sixty mil. No,
the next guy's gonna want even more. So, I mean,
there's no way it can continue. College football's got to
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figure out a way to take this latest wave of
nonsense and get their arms around it. Quit sooner than later.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, I think that the idea of how wild this
whole ride has been the last three four years, since
they just kind of opened the doors, like okay, let's
pay these guys and then now they've wrapped their arms
around Okay, now there's a salary cap type thing kind
of kind of yeah, but you can still get some
on the side, but that has to be market value.
(27:34):
It's not just flat out, here's your signing bonus, come
play for us. I think that they will figure it out.
I think probably the way it's going to go, and
it'll be hard pressed to do it. I mean, don't
think these people when somebody, some donor sponsor of some
sorts like that's it. I don't like the guy and
he's not taken us to the promised land where we
thought he was going to go and where we invested
(27:56):
money to get, so fire him. I think they have
enough money, obviously to hire someone else. I think it's
going to go to the coaches are going to want
more security and bigger buyouts because the nature is, well,
if you if you're here for three years and you
haven't gotten this to the you know, finals of the
college football playoff, then we might be moving on from you.
(28:19):
But I think that you can want whatever you want.
I think it's going to be where they're going to
start making those buyouts less. I think it's going to
be that they're just like, hey, we'll give you six
years and if we basically fire you somewhere before that,
then we will owe you some of that back money.
But it's not going to be the same as I.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Think that in mind. But if you've just fired one
guy and are trying to get Lane kivin, it's a negotiation, right,
isn't he going to ask for even more? Like you
said before? I think the new head coach at LSU
is gonna ask for an even sweeter deal with a
greater buyout. And that's the world they've created for themselves.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
You could do it more of like an incentive buyout too,
Like if you win ten games, don't make the playoffs
and we want to get rid of you, you get
this much. But if you only win seven games, you
get this much. I mean as a possibility.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think the.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Biggest issue is the same thing they were dealing with
with the players, right. You keep going back to all
of these donors and back to fans and asking them
over and over for more money because whoops, I guess
we hired the wrong guy, so now we need more
money to get rid of that guy. And we got
to go find another guy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Well, that's just it. I think you hit upon it.
I think that's going to be the sticking point of this.
What it's going to ruin this little trend. What's going
to stop this sooner than later is that very thing.
Because even though one donor might want this guy who
gets the say right, I mean, unless you've got a
situation where it's Phil Knight kind of calling all the
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shots at Oregon, unless you got a donor so big.
But if one guy donates ten million dollars to the
process and another eight does the guy with eight million
not get as much that? I mean we turning it
into just CEOs, get like a percentage of a vote? Yeah,
I mean, how are you? How are you going to
do that? I mean, because that's gonna that's gonna have
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to call for something contractual, and you're gonna have to
come up with a game plan and contract and a
philosophy on who gets to make the decisions or who
gets to be responsible for how much of the decision.
I don't think that's a world we can enter. That's
just way too messy, that's just too complicated. And frankly,
if you're LSU or Penn state. You didn't fire James
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Franklin just to hire somebody worse. Yeah, you fired those
guys to get somebody theoretically better, better than a guy
that's winning like sixty or see me seventy percent of
his game, seventy five percent of his games. Yeah. So
do you think the new guy that comes in there
is gonna say, yeah, you're right, you got really burned
on that Brian Kelly deal. I'll work with you. No,
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they're gonna say, you're not gonna treat me like he
did Brian Kelly.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Yeah, I want more, I want him want better security.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, better security, a larger buyout. You're not gonna jerk
me and my family around. So this is what we've
entered into. And I agree with coach. I think the
silver lining in this is that it is there's no
way that you can stay on this path. We're just
riding another different wave, rogue wave that is popped up
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in this sea of uncertainty that is college football, and
what they're gonna be mistakes made until people can get
their arms around it and figure out, Okay, that doesn't work.
Let's now go to this process. So we'll see. I
think it will get worse before it gets better. But
it certainly cannot be sustainable. There's no way there's enough
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money on campuses to keep this pace going. All right,
coming up next. I don't know if you checked this
out last night, but the crack And scored a thrilling
come from behind point last night. Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
BOUP welcome back Brandon Monteur. He's got two third period
goals and the Seattle Crucket tie the game at three.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Oh that Brandon Montour was good last night. He was
He was damn good. He was slap happy. I like
it like that. Oh that slap shot killer kind of
led to two goals for Brandon Monteur and an exciting,
thrilling comeback for the Kraken, who were hosting the Montreal
Canadians last night, trying to make it three straight wins.
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They were down three to nothing and then led by
Brandon Monteur, they somehow thrillingly tied things up then held
on in regulation. Montour there again to slap away puck
that was kind of dancing in front of the net.
I mean, he just had a complete game last night,
and ultimately you lose because of that damn Cole Kawfield.
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What a thorn on our side. He's already turned down.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
The real turn.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
He's like thirteen years old. We're gonna have to deal
with this for years to come. But he scores in overtime.
But that's about as impressive come from behind point as
you're gonna ever earn.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Right there, Well, it was exciting. I don't think they
played very well the first couple periods for sure. I
mean it didn't look they didn't look like they had looked.
And I haven't watched every minute of every game, but
I've watched a lot of their games so far and
they just didn't look quite themselves. Now they've found a way,
and usually you don't find a way, and hockey three
zero seems like insurmountable, but the way in which Monteur
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played Shane Wright seems very advantageous. He seems like a
guy that's kind of an opportunistic type of player and
kind of coming into his own and so yeah, I
mean you felt like you're walking out of that woman
with probably eight minutes left or whatever, it was like, Okay,
this is just a bad game. You're gonna get your
and then bang bang bang all of a sudden you
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find a way to at least salvage a point out
of it. It would have been nice to see if they
played a little bit more like that earlier, you know,
because it ended up coming up short or just getting
a point, but still a one points better than zero,
that's for damn sure.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Watching it early and seeing us go down O two,
I was like, what what's happening here?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Like, this isn't the team we're at home?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
This is you know, we're not looking at all like
we had in these last two games. And then I thought, okay,
that's fine. Going into the second period, they're gonna be fine.
They're gonna come back because you know, they've got a
little they've got their break, they're gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And then nothing happened.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
So at least I guess our defense was playing better,
but it was a very Yeah, what a thrilling third period.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's just unlike I guess soccer is kind of similar.
But I don't know how good you feel about that
going home. I'm sure you can't ever go home as
a hockey player like, hey, high five guys, point, Yeah, no,
go to the bar. We got to celebrate this. I
don't want to deal with the wife and kids just yet. Yeah, don't.
I don't think that that's how it works. But I
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guess not all points are created equal because you got
to feel like it stole something. Yeah, last night, rallying
from behind it and in an impressive fashion. I mean
both the Montour goals and then the he also set
up the pass to Shane Wright for the third goal.
So it was just the Brandon Montour show. Dorothy must
be just so, Dorothy Montour is a saint.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Maybe that's what I should name my team, Dorothy Montor's kids.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, it can be Brandon Tana fan of club. No, No,
it's definitely not. Not been nut for a while. But
nice job getting the point last night. We will talk
to Al Konisky a little bit later on in the show,
and we also have your mix delivery of the game
coming your way. But the Kraken lose four to three
in overtime to the Montreal Canadians to earn a thrilling
(35:49):
come from behind point. It's Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.
Some time.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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in producing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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that's right, Wednesday edition of the program, and on Wednesdays
we go till ten o'clock. Yeah, Wednesday, So today we're doing. Yeah, yeah,
today we're going all the way till ten o'clock.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Wow, yeah, really giving it to the listeners today.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That a little extra special. On Wednesdays, like Wednesday thing,
Thursdays we only go to ten o'clock. On Wednesdays we
always go all the way all the way there, and
then Thursdays, you know, only to ten. Yeah, and then
Fridays we just negotiate till ten right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Right, people, a great deal. Totally following what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes we just feel a little
over ambitious sometimes, you know, it's not all we there.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, we grind it out.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah. But today today ten o'clock, it's Ashley Ryan, it's
former Mariner Bucky Jacobson, it's Chuck Powell with you as
we get things started. And man, boy, I tell you what,
once upon a time here in our office, I've often
entertained the theory that if you wanted to, you could
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I mean, it wouldn't be a great life, but you
could get all the food that you needed to live
by just living at a radio station. Yeah, that you
could just get the free stuff that comes in. And
then I mean, I don't think it's a great quality
of life. But you could you could survive just by
off the free food that comes into a radio station
(02:43):
during the given week. But it the quality of the
food that comes in is is often interesting. Like once
upon a time, we had a guava candy that somebody
brought in. Remember that, Yeah, and it was here for
nineteen and a half years. I just sat out there
on a tato. I think I tried it and spit
(03:03):
it out. But the guava candy lasted forever. It might
still be in somebody's desk or pocket. I have like
a butterscotch. Yeah, but boy, you bring in some varsity
level Halloween candy prior to Halloween, Like the same bucket
comes in last week and excuse me, next week, it
(03:25):
comes in next week. Maybe it lingers a little bit longer.
Maybe it sticks around a lot because everybody had their
fill of Halloween candy over the weekend and they have
too much at home. But you bring it in. You
bring in the A level, the Reese's peanut butter cups,
the Snickers, the twigs, and you put a bucket out.
It's almost gone twenty four hours. I don't know. Probably
Jessaman brought that in.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
It was actually Mark, is that Mr Glenn? Yeah, he
has a soul?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
To find out the head haun show about in Varsity
level Halloween Candy.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I learned that from his significantly better other Is that right?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Probably a trick well, that he has a soul or that.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
And actually it was like I was eating a piece.
I said, you get some of this and she goes, no,
Mark brought that in, I think, meaning like she didn't
want it in the house. Probably that enough maybe, and
then she says yeah, I said, really Marked, and know
yeah he does have a soul.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oh okay, so both.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, so I learned both.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And there's milk duds in there.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I know, Man, I typically don't eat while I'm here,
and yet yesterday I indulged.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I like four or five myself.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I mean when you got a bucket full of the
good stuff was running, you just walked by it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, it was like it was the good stuff, like
you said, and the top run is over. I was like,
it's gonna spill if I don't get the top of
this taken care of.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I started trying to dig through to see if there
was anything in there I could eat, and it was
like I felt like someone had stolen my puppy.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I was like, if you'd like, I could, like,
I could suck the chocolate off of the milk duds
and then give it caramel.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Caramel's got milk in it too. Oh yeah, I mean
she stiok, headsets you had on your butt? Why would
she stop? Short?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean I could lick all the chocolate off a cat.
You could have the wafers.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
You could have the wafers moist, moist wafers.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Oh, I'm trying to help here.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I prefer my wafers dry. I'm proud of you,
Thank you, thanks for going the extra mile. There's no
pleasing her. I'm in the microwave after. That's a better idea,
crispy wafers. I'm glad we've come up with this play together.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'll get it. I'll get started on this, saying it's
better than going without. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, I'd prefer if you would lick the chocolate off
a Reze's peanut butter cup and then I could have
the peanut butter.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
In the middle. Done.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, alright, that's really easy. We'll get that done. Yeah,
you like caramels, Milk dud's become Carmels, real fast.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah, sad, sad life I live.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, welcome into the show here on this some morning.
We are actually I actually am going to highlight Halloween
candy and a couple of the segments later on in
the show, you know, worked them into the sports world
later on in the program. But we're going to begin.
I want to begin with the World Series, but certainly
(06:18):
I want this morning. I mean, yesterday was about just we.
It was of this the game, one of the greatest
games we've ever seen. Last night though, got me thinking
though more about how it does sort of mirror or
reflect reflect is the better word the Mariners. But let's
start first, though, Bucky just talking about the game itself.
(06:42):
The Blue Jays won it by final score of six
to two. Shoe a Otani started in the game, and look,
we were two of the people that didn't think that
the fifteen inning affair was going to be as debilitating
to the Mariners in Toronto as so many were suggesting.
And both teams played eighteen innings the night before, but
(07:04):
only one team had a pitcher who got on base
nine times the previous evening, and so I don't know
maybe that did impact that show A wasn't quite as
sharp as I mean, he wasn't bad, but they decided
to extend him into the seventh inning, which might have
been a mistake. The night after he got on base
nine times in an eighteen inning game, and he's a DH.
(07:26):
But you know what, every time you're getting ready, you
correct me if I'm wrong. Every time you get ready
to go to the plate and you're the DH, you're
probably in the tunnel taking a few hacks. So he
did that nine times the previous night, and he ran
the bases nine times the previous night, So I'm not
sure it should all be that big of a surprise
that maybe if anybody had an excuse for being a
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little bit tired last night that was on the mound
by the seventh inning, it might be sho Heyo Tani
over Shane Bieber.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Uh. Yeah, we definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Didn't impact the game.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I don't know, I don't know a goot impact of
the game. And we there's really no way to tell
unless he you know, we know that he was after
getting on base nine times, which is absurd. I mean,
I maybe there was a time or two that I
got on base five times in a game, and I
can tell you I was significantly more tired. Not drastically,
(08:21):
not like, oh my god, can't go on, He's not
running that far, You're not running a triathle. But there's
certain times where you just were on base more, especially
if you ended up having a you know, maybe a
couple of AB's where there's full count, two outs, you're
running foul ball, running foul ball, stuff like that that
you you noticed like, wow, that was I exerted more today.
(08:41):
And we saw a show Hey kind of stretching his
calf out like he was cramping up because he was
on base every damn time, and and you know he
was actually trying to steal bases. And I mean, I
guess a couple of times he wasn't he was on base,
but he just jogged around them. But other times there's
doubles and he's just you know, sprinting to second base.
It was I think he was probably more fatigue than
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typically getting ready for a start.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And also, like our pitchers are slaves to their routines,
our guys our slaves. And we've talked about a lot
during the season, like a rain delay seems to affect
us more than it does the other team because Logan
Gilbert is so precise in his you know, in his
build up. George Kirby, I think is the same way.
I think maybe Bryce Miller lesser than Brian Will slightly
(09:29):
lesser than But our guys are affected by that, especially
in today's modern game. I mean, once upon a time,
you know, George Brett rolled in from the bar and
went three for four. You know, I think they are
a little bit differently. And if you think our guys are,
the Japanese approach is completely different. Yeah, So to get
out of there's no way that Shoe a Otani could
have stayed in his routine after eighteen innings the night before,
(09:53):
had to go home and sleep, come back to the ballpark,
and then do it all over the next day while
also incorporating his pitching prep. So I don't know, he
seemed fine for six innings, but maybe Dave Roberts asked
a little bit too much out of a guy that
got on base nine times the night before to have
him go out for the seventh and that was the
difference in the game. That seventh inning is where Toronto
(10:15):
pulled away.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean I would think, I mean Ultimately, if
you take the seventh inning where he gave up a
couple of knocks to start that and then was pulled,
I mean he would He went five innings, four hits
and two runs, and it really was a mistake to
Vlad Guerrero, who's on fire this entire postseason, and took
him yard. And so you're still sitting at a two
to one ball game and you've you've taxed your bullpen
(10:38):
because of the eighteen innings before, and they don't really
typically trust their bullpen a whole heck of a lot
as it is, right and for good reason. Outside of
the performance that they had in the in the eighteen
inning affair the night before, it's probably one of those
like I think we'll just go ahead and ride this.
I mean, he wasn't. It wasn't like he was getting
rocked and having to wiggle out of trouble. He was.
(10:58):
I mean, he allowed you know, base runners basically up
to up through five innings, so it was like.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Fine, but maybe the seventh was.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Just still ran ran out of gas. I think it's
part that. I think it's more so you know, as
much as you know there's a I got a you
know I'm irritated with the Toronto Blue Jays because they
knocked us out. There's an old school way that they
play the game is that is one that plays when
you're tired and when you you know, the emotional toll
(11:30):
that it takes on you to play eighteen innings and
lose is far different than the emotional toll to play
ateen innings and come out victorious. And so it's one
of those all right, boys, that's time to dig deep,
it's time to we got to go get Shoho Tani.
They get to go against Shane Bieber, who by all
accounts is pitching well in the postseason coming off Tommy
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John and he's doing what they're they're asking of him
to do it just keep them in the ballgame. You
just kind of felt like, boy, this is a I
can see how bang bang and this thing's over and
five yeah. Yeah. And yet the old school mentality, and
I don't know who it was on Toronto, I think
it was after they beat us, ended up saying it
might have been Beaber old school wins, Old school wins.
(12:13):
Like there's something about the mentality that the Blue Jays
are playing with that is like us against the world
or US against right right now, it's US against this
you know Dodgers team that you know by all accounts,
I mean, its spent the most money out there, and
I know the Mets are up there too, but it's
just this team is like they should win. Everybody thinks
they should win, and the Blue Jays are like, well,
(12:35):
I'm gonna raise my hand here. I think maybe we
have something to say about that, like on a regular basis.
So I think they answered the bell better than than
the Dodgers just did up and down the lineup.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, that dovetails perfectly into the topic that I did
want to bring up because we're four games into this
series and I thought the Dodgers were gonna take it
in four to five games. I really did. I think they.
I probably would have given the same prognosis had the
Mariners made it. I just thought the Dogs, the way
that they're constructed, how healthy they're starting pitching was. I mean,
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it's the best rotation money can buy, and for the
first time in this modern era, all of their pitchers
were healthy at the exact right time and just muwing
through people like threshers through wheat. That's how they'd performed
throughout the postseason. So I probably would have given the
same prediction had the Mariners made it to the World Series.
(13:25):
But it did sort of with Toronto, like you said,
playing their game last night, bouncing back from an eighteen
inning loss from the previous night. And really, as much
as I brought up showey Otani, John Smoltz pointed out,
it was their ability just to put the ball in
play and see what can happen. Jimenez with his big
two strike hit the other way, and ty France even
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hitting a ground ball the second base and not grounding
into a double play and just bringing in a run.
That sort of approach is probably the primary thing that
led to their victy last night. And it just it
just struck me as everybody's in Mariner hangover, in a
state of Mariner depression for a long time. We had
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to beat down. And this is the thing that if
I got angry during the last five years, during the
Jerry Depoto era, it was people just saying the moment
the Mariners didn't accomplish what we wanted them to accomplish,
they sucked.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
They're terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That was the That's where everybody went, and everybody needs
to be fired. Those are the things that if I
ever got angry and yelled and got worked up, it
was over that mentality that the moment the Mariners don't
achieve what we thought they could achieve or should achieve,
it was automatically same old Mariners. They stink, not the
(14:48):
same old Mariners. Has not been the same old Mariners
for the last five years. This is a completely different
approach that they have taken. And we are so well
set up for the future and should be on a
four game, four season playoff streak and the process. But
I hope that people and I know that there's no
(15:09):
moral victories here, but watching the Blue Jays even things
up with the Dodgers. I mean, we went through this
season hearing they stink same old Mariners. No no, no, no, no, no, no.
The Seattle Mariners are as good as any team in
Major League Baseball. They can play with anybody, including the
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Dodgers and obviously the Blue Jays. We came within eight outs.
We came within one swing because if George Springer doesn't
hit that home run, I think we win. We came
within one swing of being in this World Series and
maybe even with the Dodgers at two games apiece. So
I realize we haven't made the World Series, and that
(15:51):
continues to haunt everybody in this city. And it should
I mean you should. You shouldn't be satisfied. I heard
this promo coming in. You shouldn't be satisfied. It was
a successful season. But nobody's satisfied. The organization's not satisfied. You,
the fans shouldn't be satisfied. Hi, the talk show its
Tom not satisfied. There's more to achieve. They gotta make
the World Series. They got to win a World Series.
(16:13):
Otherwise you have floundered an amazing job of creating this
foundation to win consistently over a decade or more. But
we are so close, and I get it. That's very
little solace that you can take right now, and you
don't want to think about moral victories. But four games
(16:35):
into this series, two games apiece, two teams that seem
pretty evenly fought, and we came within a swing of
beating that one of those teams and being in the
same situation.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
We are there.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
We are there. It is hard to win a World Series,
even getting into the playoffs, even with home field advantage,
even with a buye in the first round. It is hard.
I mean, it felt we were only in two rounds.
We only participated in two rounds of the playoffs. It
felt like three and a half years of our lives
we were taken. And so it is hard ass work to
win it all. But man, we're right there. We can
(17:08):
compete with the best in the game and are set
up to do so for the next five to ten years.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, I think that everybody is entitled to You can
have your opinion. It's just I mean, I think the cold,
hard truth is that people should realize that the two
things can be true. You can think that this season
was a success and yet not successful enough like it's
it was just it was a good year. They obviously
made the playoffs. They get they got to the second
(17:36):
second you know rank or whatever they finished second to
where they get a bye. They you know, they fought
hard to get out of the first round against Detroit,
which ultimately a lot of people can say Detroit isn't good.
They you know, they they shouldn't have even went to
five games or whatever. You can say whatever you want
Detroit up until you know, a month and a half
(17:59):
towards the end of the season. There, I mean they
were one of the better teams in the American League,
and they have an ace that we had to end
up beat twice. It to me, it's the idea of
if you can't recognize this team is on par with
the best teams out there, like you're right there, like
you that's what you know. Like, I'm not sure what
I feel about Jerry Depoto, but it wasn't. One of
(18:21):
the things that is pretty evident, and he's basically been
open about it, is that he's trying to build something
that year after year will compete to be in the playoffs.
So you have a contender because they feel that the
way that they're building a team that gets into the
playoffs could be dangerous in the postseason, and this team
most certainly could have. I mean, I think that two
things that can be true are I think that our
(18:42):
pitching staff didn't really perform as well as they can
or possibly you're in the World Series now. But I
also think that part of that is tip your cap
to the Blue Jays because they had a game plan
against good pitching that makes it difficult for good pitching
to be flawless. Yesterday, to me, the Otani mows down
(19:03):
the first couple hitters, and then they grind out two
AB's that made it to where he still threw twenty
pitches in the first inning. That allows Vladimir Guerrero to
come up in the third inning to hit the two
run homer that basically put them ahead for good at
that point in time. It's those little tiny things that
the first inning didn't amount to anything. They get a
(19:23):
walk and a single, and then Alejandro Kirk gets out,
but it was more than that, just letting him mow
your guys down one, two, three. So I mean, to me,
there's an old school thing, and I think the old
school thing plays against anybody, and it played against us.
But to think that we're not on par with the
team out there, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
How many times the last few years I've driven around
listening to various hosts on various stations just constantly say, well,
we're not in the same category as the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
That's clear.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
What are you talking about? Of course we are. The
only reason absolutely are.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
The only reason we're not is because they they would
look at any season and where they're not going to
the World Series as a failure because they've been there
so many times. I think that would be like the
one reason that we wouldn't be in the same category,
because I don't think we can look at not going
to the World Series as a failure. It could be
a disappointment, but I don't think it's a failure.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All right, let's find out what is on tap for
today's radio program people. What's on TEP?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What's on TEP?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Toronto wins six to two over the Dodgers. The series
is even at two games a piece. Now Game five
will be tonight. It'll be a savage for the Blue Jays,
Blake Snell for the Dodgers. Mariners offseason, of course is underway.
A lot of people talking about it. We will to
today as well our final ABC's of the MS today
(20:45):
at eight thirty. Also, Reckless at Breakfast Today will chomp
into that topic as well at seven forty five. The
Frozen Frenzy was held yesterday in the National Hockey League
the Kraken as every team in the NHL. A part
of it come from behind point for the Kraken, which
we'll talk about coming up here at six forty five. Also,
(21:06):
al Kiniski will join us at nine to thirty. Next
up for the Krack in the matchup with the Rangers
not until Saturday, though. Sounders Game two versus Minnesota United
will take place on Monday, so the Sounders have to
win back to back games in order to advance in
the playoffs. The Seahawks we are at hump day of
a week where they'll actually play. I don't know why
(21:28):
a bye week feels so long, but it just does.
They'll take on the Commanders this Sunday night. Greg Bell
will join us at seven oh five with the latest. Also,
we are six days away from the NFL trading deadline,
so we'll rip into that today as well. Huskies are
on by this week still, Cam Cleland will join us.
He's not on by, he'll be with us at eight o'clock.
And speaking of Huskies, we're five days away from Danny
(21:51):
Sprinkle and the Dogs starting their brand new season. The
college basketball season gets started Monday night as well. All right,
so a lot to discuss, clearly, But the big topic
right now in college athletics is the latest wave that
we didn't see in this new world of college football.
How did Rick new Eyesill react to all of the
(22:14):
college football head coach firings here in the last few weeks. Boy,
he went off yesterday and we're going to replace some
of that for you next on Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM, Husky's on Buy this week, which really
(22:40):
did open up the gates to discuss at great length
the college football top story this week, and that is
this new phenomenon that has taken place. I mean, there
are some things that you just can't see coming with
the new world of college football. I continuously be surprised. Continuely,
(23:00):
I'm surprised. You know, you feel like you fix one thing,
but what kind of a problem does that create in
another area? And then once you get that taken care of,
inevitably something else is going to pop up that you
didn't see coming. And now you got to get your
arms wrapped around that. Maybe some people don't see these
(23:20):
college football head coaching firings in the middle of the
year as an issue, but I personally do. I personally
think that it is unsustainable to take a good coach
with a lot of money left on his deal, fire
him eat that money in a world where everybody complains
about how they don't have any money, and then try
(23:43):
and find a replacement that's going to deliver championship caliber football,
and if he falls just a little bit short, you
really have set the president that that's fireable offense. So
it feels to me like it's unsustainable. I feel like
it's another fai or waive in this process, in this
new world of college football that people didn't see coming,
(24:06):
and now they got to figure out how to fix
it because it could be very detrimental. Right. Rick new
Isel was on with us on Tuesday, our College Football Insider,
and of course everybody can know Rick new Isel, and
I asked him about this very issue. Did you see
this coming? And is it sustainable?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
The answer to both of those are no, This is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I mean, Brian Kelly was thirty three and fourteen at LSU.
I mean thirty three and fourteen is Hall of Fame credentials.
You only have to be sixty I guess fifty nine
point five percent as a winning coach to be a
Hall of Famer or at least be considered as such.
That that is confounding, to say the least. And to
(24:52):
give him fifty four million bucks to walk out the
door is incredible. We're over one hundred fIF see million
dollars in dead money in a world where every athletic
director is telling you how financially challenged they are, and
we're doing that that makes no sense. And I will
tell you, and I said this a million times, so
(25:14):
you know I'm telling you the truth that my one
of my favorite years of my entire coaching career is
my last at Washington when we were four and five
and came back and won the Northwest Championship and beat
Oregon State, beat Oregon at Oregon and then beat Washington
State at Washington State when they were number three in
the country. To get that done and to get the
(25:37):
team to believe that, you know, how you deal with adversity,
that's part of the education that you're supposed to be
getting in college. Now we're giving an education that if
you're not doing every you know, winning championships, it's time
to quit and cancel Christmas. I don't get it it.
We've lost our way, and it's because we've given the
(26:00):
pseudo owners, those that we keep going to for more
and more in terms of resources and money, financial support.
We've given them all kinds of now ability to make
the decisions. And that's just it's scary, it's frightening. And
it's nowhere that I think we should be or want
to be.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Breg new eyes old by this a little bit earlier
this week. This has been the big hot button topic
that has popped up now in college football. I couldn't
agree more with what he's saying, and I think that
was evident in the build up the lead up to
us playing that bit Bucky that segment. I just how
can you even keep this going? Like you're going to
fire good coaches with years and millions left on their contracts,
(26:45):
and then what's the next LSU coach, given you're going
to try to convince a better coach to taking could
you take a little bit fewer years just in case
we don't like you and you're not competing at the
highest level so we don't have to eat sixty mil. No,
the next guy's gonna want even more. So, I mean,
there's no way it can continue. College football's got to
(27:06):
figure out a way to take this latest wave of
nonsense and get their arms around it. Quit sooner than later.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, I think that the idea of how wild this
whole ride has been the last three four years, since
they just kind of opened the doors, like okay, let's
pay these guys and then now they've wrapped their arms
around Okay, now there's a salary cap type thing kind
of kind of yeah, but you can still get some
on the side, but that has to be market value.
(27:34):
It's not just flat out, here's your signing bonus, come
play for us. I think that they will figure it out.
I think probably the way it's going to go, and
it'll be hard pressed to do it. I mean, don't
think these people when somebody, some donor sponsor of some
sorts like that's it. I don't like the guy and
he's not taken us to the promised land where we
thought he was going to go and where we invested
(27:56):
money to get, so fire him. I think they have
enough money, obviously to hire someone else. I think it's
going to go to the coaches are going to want
more security and bigger buyouts because the nature is, well,
if you if you're here for three years and you
haven't gotten this to the you know, finals of the
college football playoff, then we might be moving on from you.
(28:19):
But I think that you can want whatever you want.
I think it's going to be where they're going to
start making those buyouts less. I think it's going to
be that they're just like, hey, we'll give you six
years and if we basically fire you somewhere before that,
then we will owe you some of that back money.
But it's not going to be the same as I.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Think that in mind. But if you've just fired one
guy and are trying to get Lane kivin, it's a negotiation, right,
isn't he going to ask for even more? Like you
said before? I think the new head coach at LSU
is gonna ask for an even sweeter deal with a
greater buyout. And that's the world they've created for themselves.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
You could do it more of like an incentive buyout too,
Like if you win ten games, don't make the playoffs
and we want to get rid of you, you get
this much. But if you only win seven games, you
get this much. I mean as a possibility.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think the.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Biggest issue is the same thing they were dealing with
with the players, right. You keep going back to all
of these donors and back to fans and asking them
over and over for more money because whoops, I guess
we hired the wrong guy, so now we need more
money to get rid of that guy. And we got
to go find another guy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Well, that's just it. I think you hit upon it.
I think that's going to be the sticking point of this.
What it's going to ruin this little trend. What's going
to stop this sooner than later is that very thing.
Because even though one donor might want this guy who
gets the say right, I mean, unless you've got a
situation where it's Phil Knight kind of calling all the
(29:44):
shots at Oregon, unless you got a donor so big.
But if one guy donates ten million dollars to the
process and another eight does the guy with eight million
not get as much that? I mean we turning it
into just CEOs, get like a percentage of a vote? Yeah,
I mean, how are you? How are you going to
do that? I mean, because that's gonna that's gonna have
(30:04):
to call for something contractual, and you're gonna have to
come up with a game plan and contract and a
philosophy on who gets to make the decisions or who
gets to be responsible for how much of the decision.
I don't think that's a world we can enter. That's
just way too messy, that's just too complicated. And frankly,
if you're LSU or Penn state. You didn't fire James
(30:28):
Franklin just to hire somebody worse. Yeah, you fired those
guys to get somebody theoretically better, better than a guy
that's winning like sixty or see me seventy percent of
his game, seventy five percent of his games. Yeah. So
do you think the new guy that comes in there
is gonna say, yeah, you're right, you got really burned
on that Brian Kelly deal. I'll work with you. No,
(30:50):
they're gonna say, you're not gonna treat me like he
did Brian Kelly.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Yeah, I want more, I want him want better security.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, better security, a larger buyout. You're not gonna jerk
me and my family around. So this is what we've
entered into. And I agree with coach. I think the
silver lining in this is that it is there's no
way that you can stay on this path. We're just
riding another different wave, rogue wave that is popped up
(31:17):
in this sea of uncertainty that is college football, and
what they're gonna be mistakes made until people can get
their arms around it and figure out, Okay, that doesn't work.
Let's now go to this process. So we'll see. I
think it will get worse before it gets better. But
it certainly cannot be sustainable. There's no way there's enough
(31:41):
money on campuses to keep this pace going. All right,
coming up next. I don't know if you checked this
out last night, but the crack And scored a thrilling
come from behind point last night. Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
BOUP welcome back Brandon Monteur. He's got two third period
goals and the Seattle Crucket tie the game at three.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Oh that Brandon Montour was good last night. He was
He was damn good. He was slap happy. I like
it like that. Oh that slap shot killer kind of
led to two goals for Brandon Monteur and an exciting,
thrilling comeback for the Kraken, who were hosting the Montreal
Canadians last night, trying to make it three straight wins.
(32:41):
They were down three to nothing and then led by
Brandon Monteur, they somehow thrillingly tied things up then held
on in regulation. Montour there again to slap away puck
that was kind of dancing in front of the net.
I mean, he just had a complete game last night,
and ultimately you lose because of that damn Cole Kawfield.
(33:05):
What a thorn on our side. He's already turned down.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
The real turn.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
He's like thirteen years old. We're gonna have to deal
with this for years to come. But he scores in overtime.
But that's about as impressive come from behind point as
you're gonna ever earn.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Right there, Well, it was exciting. I don't think they
played very well the first couple periods for sure. I
mean it didn't look they didn't look like they had looked.
And I haven't watched every minute of every game, but
I've watched a lot of their games so far and
they just didn't look quite themselves. Now they've found a way,
and usually you don't find a way, and hockey three
zero seems like insurmountable, but the way in which Monteur
(33:42):
played Shane Wright seems very advantageous. He seems like a
guy that's kind of an opportunistic type of player and
kind of coming into his own and so yeah, I
mean you felt like you're walking out of that woman
with probably eight minutes left or whatever, it was like, Okay,
this is just a bad game. You're gonna get your
and then bang bang bang all of a sudden you
(34:02):
find a way to at least salvage a point out
of it. It would have been nice to see if they
played a little bit more like that earlier, you know,
because it ended up coming up short or just getting
a point, but still a one points better than zero,
that's for damn sure.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Watching it early and seeing us go down O two,
I was like, what what's happening here?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Like, this isn't the team we're at home?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
This is you know, we're not looking at all like
we had in these last two games. And then I thought, okay,
that's fine. Going into the second period, they're gonna be fine.
They're gonna come back because you know, they've got a
little they've got their break, they're gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And then nothing happened.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
So at least I guess our defense was playing better,
but it was a very Yeah, what a thrilling third period.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's just unlike I guess soccer is kind of similar.
But I don't know how good you feel about that
going home. I'm sure you can't ever go home as
a hockey player like, hey, high five guys, point, Yeah, no,
go to the bar. We got to celebrate this. I
don't want to deal with the wife and kids just yet. Yeah, don't.
I don't think that that's how it works. But I
(35:01):
guess not all points are created equal because you got
to feel like it stole something. Yeah, last night, rallying
from behind it and in an impressive fashion. I mean
both the Montour goals and then the he also set
up the pass to Shane Wright for the third goal.
So it was just the Brandon Montour show. Dorothy must
be just so, Dorothy Montour is a saint.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Maybe that's what I should name my team, Dorothy Montor's kids.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, it can be Brandon Tana fan of club. No, No,
it's definitely not. Not been nut for a while. But
nice job getting the point last night. We will talk
to Al Konisky a little bit later on in the show,
and we also have your mix delivery of the game
coming your way. But the Kraken lose four to three
in overtime to the Montreal Canadians to earn a thrilling
(35:49):
come from behind point. It's Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.
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