October 29, 2025 • 35 mins
Headlines and 12th Man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) The Seahawks face the Washington Commanders on Sunday night; could this be the last time we see Bobby Wagner going against the Hawks? :30- We are doubling up on fact or fiction with some odds on Candy favorites and an actual Fact or Fiction pick and Ashley loves a home underdog! :45- It’s time to get Reckless at Breakfast! The Mariners payroll already has $130-$135 million committed to their roster. The payroll-friendly zone, where they want to start the offseason, so that gives us about $30-$35 million to work with, so what are priorities? Josh Naylor should take up about $20 million, what about Polanco? Between those two, that could eat up the $30 ish million. Now, if it’s not Naylor and Polanco, then who?
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Chill headlines before Greg Bell joins the show here this morning,
and we'll start with the World Series. Toronto Blue Jays
bounced back from that eighteen inning loss the night before
to defeat the Dodgers and show Aotani sixth to two.
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The series is even at two games. Apiece Y Savage
versus Snell tonight. Unless you're selling perfume. Then it's yesabage, Yes,
completely different pronunciation.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah, it's more address.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, the frozen frenzy last night as well, crack and
we're a part of that, but we've already covered that story.
Sounders played game two of their three game series against
Minnesota United in the MLS postseason coming up on Monday.
They are down one game to Minnesota United, so they
have to win the last two to advance in the playoffs.
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Just where Brian Schmetzer likes to have his opponent thinking
he's got one up on the old mad scientist. It's
never gonna happen Minnesota. Yeah, it's hump days see for
the Seahawks, So we'll be playing the Commanders this Sunday night.
We're also six days away from the NFL trading deadline,
and so to talk about these topics and others, we
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welcome our Seahawks insider, the great Greg bed. All right,
good to have you with us here again this morning.
It is humpday, yep, and I want to start with
a former Seahawk at our conversation today. Bobby Wagner kind
of looks like feels like this is going to be
his last season. So this is the last time he'll
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be on the field, I think with the Seahawks in
a football game, even though he's on the other side
of things. How big of the story is Bobby Wagner.
He usually is when we face him, but this time around,
to bring him up on a Wednesday, how much of
your coverage will be devoted to seeing Bobby Wagner again.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I was going to take an opposite tack and
today at Seahawks and talk about how well he's playing.
At age thirty five and a half. He played every
snap of sixty nine. There's only three Washington players who
played every snap on Monday night at Kansas City, and
he was one of them. He had ten tackles. He
had his fourteenth career interception went through Travis Kelsey's hands
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and into his. He's played ninety nine percent of the
snaps this year. He played ninety nine percent of the
snaps last year. He second in the league in tackles
right now, behind Jordan Brooks. By the way it does,
it doesn't seem like he's slowed down at all. Now.
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He's not as fast as he used to. He saw
that both at the end of his first Seahawks tenure
and then in the second Seahawks go around when teams
targeted him, especially in the past game. But he's got
a coach and Dan Quinn that'll let him be the
middle linebacker for the Washington Commanders as long as Quinn
as the coach and as long as Wagner wants to.
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So I'm not convinced this is the last go around
for him. I haven't talked to him in a while,
but since the last offseason. But he, of course we know,
has a lot of other things besides football going on,
and philidthropic interest and business interests and does a lot
with each pcus there's more than football to Bobby Wagner.
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So he didn't have to play, but he's still producing
at a level that would suggest that he's not just
fading out. And to play ninety nine percent of the
snaps at middle linebacker, that takes a toll on you
for doing it for fourteen years, yeah, going on thirty
six years old. That's I was gonna talk to Ernest
Jones today if I get an opportunity to about just that.
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Trying to play that position at Jones plays as physically
as that it demands, and to do it for fourteen years.
He's a Hall of Famer. He's a first Bobot Hall
of Famer. Privileged to have covered and to know him
off the field as well. There'll never be another like
Bobby Wagner for longevity, uniqueness, perspective, everything. He's a joy
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to be around. He enriches people that he is with.
He just has a lot more than football going on,
which might be the strongest thing I can say about him.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Nineteen hundred career tackles, I mean, and then add college
to that. Imagine just like tackling another human being three
thousand times in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He had He's had thirteen thousand, six hundred snaps in
just regular season in the NFL, thirteen six hundred car
crashes in the middle of defenses. His job is to
slam into people on every snap, and he's done it
almost fourteen thousand times.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Well, I mean, you've you've went on at length about
when they went out and got Ernest Jones last year,
how much that shifted and shaped the way in which
the defense can play. And so this weekend they're going
to be going up against you know, Bobby Wagner. And
so even if he maybe has lost half a step.
Maybe he's not as capable of going sideline to sideline
like he was back in the legion of Boom days.
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What he brings to the table between the years has
got to be something that maybe that Sam Darnold and
company are going to be alerted to.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
You gotta worry about how smart he is back there, right.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, Buck, there's nothing he hasn't seen pre snap, post
snap during plays. The communication the commanders, Actually, I've been
trying to do a little bit of what Mike McDonald's doing,
layering their play calls, changing at the snap, and it
hasn't worked. They've had a bunch of injury. They had
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both their defensive ends are an injury reserve. They have
safety on injured reserve. They are really hurt, especially on defense.
They aren't tackling very well. So the last week the
Commanders and Bobby Wagner talked about simplifying, not having layered
play calls either ors if a team is in shotgun
or a team's under center, if a team's in this formation,
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to change the call and to be more to just
be simpler. Wagner's in the middle of all of that,
and he has seen everything and A big advantage that
Wagner has in being able to play fast at age
thirty five is he's playing with the coach he grew
up with. The Ken Norton Jr. Was of course the
position coach, but dan Quinn was the main thrust of
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the legion of Boom defense and coordinating, and he worked
the closest besides Norton he was. Quinn was closest with
Wagner on those early twenty ten Seahawks, So the familiarity
with each other is off the charts for a guy
at this point in his career. He's hand picked by
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dan Quinn to be in the middle of the Washington
defense because of their experience in Seattle. There's nothing Donald
and Kobac and formations and motions can do that Bobby
Wagner hasn't seen defended and beaten in the past.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Greg bellis with US our Seahawks insider. Yeah, one hundred
and he's second right now in the National Football League
in career in tackles this season behind.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Jordan Brooks by the way.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah yeah, they're one and two, but he's one hundred
and thirty nine tackles away from the all time record.
I realized that tackles isn't like sacks or touchdowns or
things like that. As a matter of fact, sometimes the
tackle stat just sort of suggest that you play on
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a bad team that's on the field a lot. We
know that's not the case in Bobby Wagner's career. So
I guess my point is that being the leading tackler
does not come with the same sort of spice that
other statistics do. But do you think it is important
to Bobby Wagner? Do you think that he wants to
retire as the all time leading tackler in NFL history?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes? I talked about this with him. His position, that's
job one is to tackle and to tackle him where
you hit him. I talk about that a lot with
Ernest Jones and how the defense changed last year because
Dotson and Baker were getting dragged like ten cans on
the back of an old pickup truck when they would
hit people. And absolutely opposite with Ernest Jones, the same
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with Bobby Wagner. When he tackles you, you go down.
And that's the difference between punting and getting first downs,
which becomes a difference in not scoring and scoring, which
becomes a difference between wins and loss is tackling is
the the prerequisite of a middle linebacker and to be
the best at ever doing it and the most that
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ever had it. You're right statistically, some teams are accused
of padding tackle stats and giving tackles to guys who
just jump onto a pile at the end. But to
be the all time that speaks of longevity at that
position in particular. I mean, ask Brian Urlacker, as Dan
Morgan asked Luke Keaghley. It's hard to play at an
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elite level for as long as Bobby Wagner has without
really damaging yourself physically. Wagner keeps himself in exquisite shape.
He jokes with me about hot yoga. He always told
me I should go to the hot yoga studio in Bellevue.
You'd that would be the day that I can't even
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go with my wife in hot yoga. Why would I
go with Bobby Wagner that He was always telling me
to do that, and how restorative it was for him.
Now he loves it. He has a little place on
the East Side he always was near where he lived.
I think he still goes there in the offseason, and
his diet has been impeccable since he was in his
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early mid twenty He wasn't eating McDonald's when he came
into the league. He just is a pro and to
him all of that, he doesn't talk about the accolades,
but the tackling in particular the tackle mark is a
big deal for the position to show that he did
it year over year over year for fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I'm going to ask you something that I think Chuck
kind of brought up to us yesterday. I mean, is
this a game against Washington that if they don't have
Jaden Daniels, is it a walkover a game against I
mean with Marcus Mariota back there or do? I mean
they're going to prepare either way. But is Jaden Daniels
the X factor of whether or not this could be
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a game.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, he's the decisive factor. Yeah. If he doesn't play
by then the game shifts heavily towards Seattle and their defense.
I wouldn't call anything the Seahawks do will walk over.
I don't think they're that good of a team and
anybody can beat them. I mean anybody. And the Commanders
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drove into Kansas City Territory Monday, night. Five times five
of their eight drives were in Chief's territory, yet they
only scored a one touchdown. Was their best drive was
the first drive of the game, and they got inside
the red zone, just marching down the field, running and passing,
and then a pass went through receiver's hands intercepted. It
was a bubble screen. It was a really weird play.
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I believe it was McLaren that the ball went right
through his hands and into the defenders' hands, and that
was the end of the drive and they were chasing
the rest of the game. They didn't run the ball
at all, I mean sixty yards. They ran it just
six times. After halftime. It was a seven to nothing game.
Then it was seven to seven and a half, it
was fourteen to seven late in the third quarter. Yet
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Washington ran it just six times in the second half.
They I've mentioned this a couple of times. The Seahawks
number one ranked defense against the run, to me is
somewhat artificial because the Jaguars, the Buccaneers, those teams didn't
even run at all. Washington needs I know they Austin
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Eckler is out injured as well on injured reserve out
for the year, they need to run the ball. Jayden
Daniels has always been a part of that, well always
in the year and a half he's been in the league,
and he's got a hamstring issue, so even if he plays,
he may not be the run factor he normally is.
RPOs and keepers that Mariota would be healthy. But if
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Daniels doesn't play, the Seahawks should win. To answer your question,
if Daniels does play, this is not easy. This is
still a team that went to the NFC Championship Game
last year. Injuries aside. They're ticked off. They're three and
five and there's talking Washington as to what's gone wrong,
and they're angry and they realize that they have more
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talent than this. They're playing a tougher schedule this year.
They're not winning the games at the end like the
Hail Mary against Chicago that they won last year. This
team last year, when they won eleven plus games and
went to the MC title game, they won five games
in the last second, either on the last play or
the last five seconds of a game. That's hard to do,
and eventually the law of averages catches up to you,
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and you don't always win all those games, and that's
also some of what's happened this year are.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Sawks inside of Greg Bell with us here on checking
back in the morning. You can of course follow him
at the neews Tribune dot com complete Seahawks coverage and
if you want on Twitter, they're at Chee Bell Seattle.
So I know Seahawk fans are excited about having the
gang back together in the defensive secondary this Sunday night.
How pumped is Mike McDonald to have his a team
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going Sunday.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, Winnerspoon's the big deal. Ju looks like he's back.
I didn't see Witherspoon in the brief part of practice
we could watch on Monday. They didn't have to put
out a practice report and an injury report on Monday,
so there was no word on whether Witherspoon even came
out on the field after we weren't allowed to be
out there. We'll know more a little more today. But
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he had said last week McDonald had that Witherspoon is
coming back to practice fully this week too, or that
was the expectation. The Witherspoon piece coming back. I mentioned
this the other day, But that makes them hole for
the first time since the opener since the first five
plays of the opener, and then there's the question of, well,
what do you do when they're all back, because to me,
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Witherspoon and even Warrior are going to play. You're not
gonna take even worry out of Nickel that he's been
excelling at. They may go a lot more dying with
six defensive backs so they can get Woolen and Emon
Warry on the field with Witherspoon, and if they go dime,
that means of been only one linebacker on the field
most times, and that would be Ernest Jones, and they'd
take Drake Thomas off. They they just haven't had these options,
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and as McDonald said, this is a good problem to
have them excited to have those decisions to make, because
I've been just done. If we didn't have the numbers
at full strength that we've had since the opener, for
them to be five and two, the number one against
the run, the pressure rates that they've gotten without having
to blitz all of that, without having their starting off
defense together since the fifth player of the season speaks
(17:25):
to how well they've been playing. No matter who's been
in there, the defense is where this team will lie
this is where they're If they're winning the division, it's
because of the defense. I know Donald's having a great
season and Smith and Jig Gobs leading the league. They're
gonna win based on their defense. And now it's finally
hold again.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
All right, man, great stuff. As always, we round table.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
At tomorrow, we do. Yeah, the table will be round.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It will be round. You and Hugh chopping it up
for us here tomorrow. So we look forward to.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Man, now that I'm not gonna have a World Series
iatus for the roundtable. Maybe hockey hiatus for it or Huskies,
I don't know when curling. Yeah, that's that's true. Gymnastics
is a winter sport in some places.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm excited to do it, all right, all right, thank you.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Coming up next here on our radio program, we'll play
Factor fiction twice. I'll explain it next on AJR My
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Factor Fiction coming your way in about four minutes from now.
Ashley's picked today, So be ready to win one thousand dollars.
Put your game face on. You got four minutes to
do so. In the meantime, I want to play Halloween
candy Factor fiction. Oh so we're going to double up
on factor fiction here today. So let's play some Halloween
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candy Factor fiction since we are just good, delicious all
of it. A couple of days away from the Halloween holiday.
So number one, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups a three and
a half point favorite over all other Halloween candy. Yes
or no?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Fact?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah, that's fact. I'm texting back to four nine, four
or five one?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Although I will say this, I'm not a fan of
Mark Glenn. Thank you for bringing in the candy, the
little teeny tiny ones, Oh, I see, barely worth their time?
You know, open it? And then you got sing rappers
on these. Think about your health, I don't. Don't you
think about my health. I'll think about my health.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Have you seen have you seen the collaboration with Oreos
those Reci's peanut butter cups with Oreo cookie like it's
a mixture. No, I've had the Oreos that have been
combined with Reese's peanut butter cups, and.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Those are amazing.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Have you had the big cups?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
No, that's too much.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I've always liked okay cups.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
No, yeah, okay, peanut butter big cups different. They have
some that have like potato chip in them. Oh yeah,
oh no me. They're gigantic and they're big.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
They're like this big, you know, popcorn and milk duds
together at the movie theater.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
That's the best that would be true.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
There is.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, it's very good.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
It's very good.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I just don't like the big ones are too big.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
So peanut butter cups are a three and a half
point favorite all over all other Halloween No, but not
even Snickers can't take the hook.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
It's pretty good though.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
All right, well it does satisfy question number two. After
Reese's and Snickers. Twigs still a two and a half
point underdog to Snickers and sounds like a six point
underdog to Reese's. But Ashley, I know you like twigs.
Do you take twigs and the points?
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I would take twigs in the points and I don't
care if to right twigs or left twis Do.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
You have to have both the twigs in order to
take it over as Snickers or you just take the
left door.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Of the right I'll take either one.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Okay, what do you think, Bucky, I'm not taking anything
over a greecious peanut butter cup, especially all the different variations,
because there's just one variation of twigs.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Twicks within at least two and a half points of Snickers.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Are you saying.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
No, no, a three point Oh yeah, yeah, you reach
his peanut butter cups and Snickers.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I can live on it.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, way more than a Snickers.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
The home field advantage they say, is worth three points
in football, So you're saying that there's no way that
if I'm even with home field advantage TwixT as beating Snickers.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, it's a wild card. It's getting all right.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Next one, if you've had enough chocolate or let's say
you're allergic to.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, it's fun talking about chocolate though.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Starburst is a typical five point dog to chocolate treats,
but with the home field advantage like those I've mentioned previously.
Do you lay the five points and take Starburst at home?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Fiction? Fiction?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, No, I wouldn't take that.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah no, again, always small, they don't have big Starbursts.
It's got work to get to one little thing that
then let's be honest, by the end of it, it's
kind of annoying, like, all right, just go away, go
get out of there.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Yeah, I mean I like, but I do too, But
that's too big for Starbursts to overcome five points even
at home.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well that's what I'm saying though, Like, would you take
the points? Yeah? No, Like I'm right recognizing the chocolate's
going to be the favorite.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
No, I still think it's I think on a given.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Day, I take the Starburst in the points.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
On a given day.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Finally, like the Jets, well, Smarties ever again be a favorite.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
No, if they're playing the Bengals for children, when.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
It's because it's Smarties, the ones that you can get
the necklace, those smartiest necklaces.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Different, similar, similar, but it's a different.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Because as a child, when I get a whole necklace
full of Smarties, maybe that's wrong.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I could be wrong there.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
If there's no necklace, No, it's a You're just a
jet for life.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's just the little pieces of flavored chalk, right.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah's not a fan?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but what's upon a time they were
pretty popular, but it's been a long time since.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You have a lot of candy options back in the day.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's been a long time since anyone grabs Smarties first
out of the out of No, my kids do that
on Halloween the ground. Alright, all right, let's play the
real factor fiction. Now, where's that to go?
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Speaker 4 (24:19):
All right, Ashley's picked today. Who are we gonna go with?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Well, we're gonna go to Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Okay, we're going to the NFL Kansas City and Buffalo
meeting up again on Sunday and I always love a
home underdog Buffalo getting two and a half points at
home against the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Give me the Bills plus the two and a half
going for.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
The big Daddy match for the weekend, that's right, Yeah, yeah,
And that's the crazy thing with the Bills is like
they can win this, They could win it by thirty
and it's still like, well, let's see it in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
But they seem to do well against the Chiefs in
the regular season.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
They don't they do better? Yeah, they definitely do better.
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
All Right, So where's the game being played in Buffalo?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
In Buffalo and they are underdogs? Yeah, at home? So
they can't say City Chiefs. That is a little surprising. Yeah,
I'd be on that side myself. So Ashley's gonna go
ahead and take the two and a half points at
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Speaker 4 (27:26):
I do have the Mariners off season already on my brain.
Bucky and I had several conversations off the area yesterday
trying to figure out exactly what the Mariners are going
to have to spend this offseason because it's very difficult.
You can go to these websites, but they're a little misleading,
and they don't have all the accurate information, and some
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of the things can be a bit confusing to try
to sift through. And so through my own research through
Adam Jude, using his article recently in the Seattle Times,
and then also just reaching out independently to a couple
of people last night to try to get my brain
and my arms around this. This is basically what the
Mariners are going to have going into the offseason through
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arbitration numbers that are going to go up this year
for a handful of players on this roster. They're sitting
right now with in their minds about one hundred and
thirty to one hundred and thirty five million dollars in
payroll already committed. So that's where they're at right now,
one hundred and thirty to one hundred and thirty five.
And based on what we heard from Justin and Jerry
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themselves in the press conference last week, they want to
start the season where they kind of finished the season
payroll wise, and so the projected payroll that their friendly
zone is one hundred and sixty to one hundred and
sixty five. That's where they're sort of wanting to start
next year. So that gives you about thirty million dollars
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in payroll to work with this offseason. Now, before you
start thinking about the big names you're going to add,
it's going to go away really quickly if in fact
your goal is to bring back a couple of the
guys who are reaching free agency. As a matter of fact,
it's not a payroll when you consider bringing Josh Naylor back.
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It's really a nay roll. That's what it is. What's
our nay roll going into this offseason, and our nay
roll thirty million dollars is going to be eaten up,
probably about twenty million a year on Josh Naylor if
in fact they can figure out the right combination of
words and money and promises to Josh Naylor to keep
him in a Mari in her uniform. Now, if you
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add Polonko, let's go add Polonko. You're looking at like
two years twenty five million dollars for Polonko. So per season,
that's twenty that's thirty two and a half. Right there,
there goes there goes your nay roll. It's used up.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
That's all we got to spend. And that's not adding
one single player that wasn't on the roster last year.
As a matter of fact, it's subtracting a Geno Suarez
from the roster because it just unless Gino Suarez just
gives them the deal of a lifetime. I just don't
think that their idea is to bring Geno Suarez back
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next season, and I think he's certainly third of those
three guys on their priority list. So first base, you
have a hole. I mean you traded away Tyler Locklear,
Luke Rayley. You just couldn't feel confident him playing that
position next year. So if it's not Josh Naylor, then Okamoto,
the Japanese player that's going to be entering free agency
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this year, or maybe a Max Muncy you get him
on a shorter deal away from the Los Angeles Dodgers.
They're not going to bring him back next season, at
least I doubt so. First base as a hole, Josh
Naylor fills it quite well. Third Base I don't think
that they see as a whole. I think they're okay
starting the season next year with Ben Williamson getting great defense,
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getting a contact hitter, and seeing if he can develop
a little bit of power. Here's also the other thing
about it. Colt Emerson is probably going to be up
at some point during the season and probably not gonna
bump JP Crawford out of the starting lineup. It's probably
Colt Emerson that will if Ben Williamson can't get the
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job done, He'll get the first crack at replacing Ben
Williamson and becoming our starting third baseman, with the idea
that JP's got one year left on his deal, and
then JP hands over the shortstop position to Emerson when
this season comes to a close. So Emerson is your
solution to a Ben Williamson and to JP Crawford at
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the exact same time. I think that is their plan.
And if you bring back Polonko, he's obviously in the
second base mix along with Reevas and Ryan Bliss. But
their idea is that Cole Young becomes a fixture, Polonko
becomes the DH. They have every faith that Cole Young
is going to be a really good player for the
Mariners for a long time to come. So with all
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that said, just to summarize, do not expect a lot
of additions this offseason. They'll tinker, but I don't think
we're going to have a significant off addition to this
team what you can expect, and I fully believe this
is an attempted repeat of how they did things in
twenty twenty four. They did not have a productive offseason
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last year, and they ended up having a very productive
trading deadline. So what I think they're going to do,
because they have even fewer holes this offseason than they've
ever had in the Depoto era, is I think they're
going to be very quiet when it comes to additions
this offseason, and then they will be very loud again
at the trading deadline. If Ben Williamson and Colt Emerson
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don't work out, we'll go get a third basement at
the trading deadline. The idea being that we get an
expiring contract like we got in Josh Naylor. We can
get a fifteen to twenty million dollar value third baseman,
but we only pay him a third of that salary
for the rest of the year, and then we can
assess whether or not we want to continue with that person,
or try to continue with that person, or not continue
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with them. So for those that have big visions of
what all's going to be added this offseason to the
Mariners roster. I'd kind of quit on that. I think
the goal is going to be to bring back Naylor
and Polonko and then just run it back with the
same dudes like they did in twenty twenty that they
had in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, well, I would assume that they're not probably. I mean,
that's the old saying of don't fix it if it
ain't broke, And I mean, I guess if you want
to think that there was a brokenness because you didn't
get to the World Series, you can go ahead and
think that. I think you're a couple of swings, are
a couple of different pitches away from from being there
and still competing. So yeah, if you can figure out
a way to bring back I think the most important
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is Naylor Polonko. I don't know what he's done to
his value. Obviously, he's not going to sign the club
or the one layer option. You know he's gonna he's
gonna want more than that. And so but if you
can do that bring those two, I think that fills
your significant holes because you don't have a DHR as
of right now, and you don't have a first basement
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as of right now. Yeah, feel those two. I'm fine
with going with the youngsters. I like what I saw
of Ben Williamson. I think there's still room for growth,
and exactly the same with.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
With Cole Young.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
And you still would have, you know, the opportunity for
Polonko to play some second base and or Bliss when
he comes back from his injury.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, we do get a text of someone asking does
this include Garver or no Garver?
Speaker 5 (34:29):
No Garver, no Garver.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
They will not pick up the Garver option, that that's
not going to happen. So yeah, so I think that's
the off season, so I would prepare yourself accordingly. I
think that they feel good about being able to bring
Naylor back and Polonko back. It's not going to be
all three of them, but if they do bring back
two of the three, that probably means there aren't a
lot of other additions that are going to be made.
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The only other wild card in this is if you decided,
you know what Randy Rose arena with just one year
left on his contract, maybe we move him or Luis
Castillo at twenty four million dollars. Maybe we move him.
That's how you may may figure out a way to
bring in new faces to fill other gaps. But at
this stage, I think they're pretty much going to try
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to run it back in twenty twenty six with the
same team they finish twenty twenty five with and then
leave themselves the potential to add where they have holes
via injury or failures at the trading deadline, being very aggressive.
I think that's the game plan that worked, they feel
worked for them this year, and I have a feeling
they're going to try to repeat that going into next season.
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So maybe that's disappointing to you, maybe that's uplifting to you.
I don't know, but I believe in my heart that
is the game plan going into the offseason. All right,
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Chill headlines before Greg Bell joins the show here this morning,
and we'll start with the World Series. Toronto Blue Jays
bounced back from that eighteen inning loss the night before
to defeat the Dodgers and show Aotani sixth to two.
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The series is even at two games. Apiece Y Savage
versus Snell tonight. Unless you're selling perfume. Then it's yesabage, Yes,
completely different pronunciation.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah, it's more address.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, the frozen frenzy last night as well, crack and
we're a part of that, but we've already covered that story.
Sounders played game two of their three game series against
Minnesota United in the MLS postseason coming up on Monday.
They are down one game to Minnesota United, so they
have to win the last two to advance in the playoffs.
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Just where Brian Schmetzer likes to have his opponent thinking
he's got one up on the old mad scientist. It's
never gonna happen Minnesota. Yeah, it's hump days see for
the Seahawks, So we'll be playing the Commanders this Sunday night.
We're also six days away from the NFL trading deadline,
and so to talk about these topics and others, we
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welcome our Seahawks insider, the great Greg bed. All right,
good to have you with us here again this morning.
It is humpday, yep, and I want to start with
a former Seahawk at our conversation today. Bobby Wagner kind
of looks like feels like this is going to be
his last season. So this is the last time he'll
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be on the field, I think with the Seahawks in
a football game, even though he's on the other side
of things. How big of the story is Bobby Wagner.
He usually is when we face him, but this time around,
to bring him up on a Wednesday, how much of
your coverage will be devoted to seeing Bobby Wagner again.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I was going to take an opposite tack and
today at Seahawks and talk about how well he's playing.
At age thirty five and a half. He played every
snap of sixty nine. There's only three Washington players who
played every snap on Monday night at Kansas City, and
he was one of them. He had ten tackles. He
had his fourteenth career interception went through Travis Kelsey's hands
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and into his. He's played ninety nine percent of the
snaps this year. He played ninety nine percent of the
snaps last year. He second in the league in tackles
right now, behind Jordan Brooks. By the way it does,
it doesn't seem like he's slowed down at all. Now.
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He's not as fast as he used to. He saw
that both at the end of his first Seahawks tenure
and then in the second Seahawks go around when teams
targeted him, especially in the past game. But he's got
a coach and Dan Quinn that'll let him be the
middle linebacker for the Washington Commanders as long as Quinn
as the coach and as long as Wagner wants to.
(05:24):
So I'm not convinced this is the last go around
for him. I haven't talked to him in a while,
but since the last offseason. But he, of course we know,
has a lot of other things besides football going on,
and philidthropic interest and business interests and does a lot
with each pcus there's more than football to Bobby Wagner.
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So he didn't have to play, but he's still producing
at a level that would suggest that he's not just
fading out. And to play ninety nine percent of the
snaps at middle linebacker, that takes a toll on you
for doing it for fourteen years, yeah, going on thirty
six years old. That's I was gonna talk to Ernest
Jones today if I get an opportunity to about just that.
(06:09):
Trying to play that position at Jones plays as physically
as that it demands, and to do it for fourteen years.
He's a Hall of Famer. He's a first Bobot Hall
of Famer. Privileged to have covered and to know him
off the field as well. There'll never be another like
Bobby Wagner for longevity, uniqueness, perspective, everything. He's a joy
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to be around. He enriches people that he is with.
He just has a lot more than football going on,
which might be the strongest thing I can say about him.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Nineteen hundred career tackles, I mean, and then add college
to that. Imagine just like tackling another human being three
thousand times in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He had He's had thirteen thousand, six hundred snaps in
just regular season in the NFL, thirteen six hundred car
crashes in the middle of defenses. His job is to
slam into people on every snap, and he's done it
almost fourteen thousand times.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Well, I mean, you've you've went on at length about
when they went out and got Ernest Jones last year,
how much that shifted and shaped the way in which
the defense can play. And so this weekend they're going
to be going up against you know, Bobby Wagner. And
so even if he maybe has lost half a step.
Maybe he's not as capable of going sideline to sideline
like he was back in the legion of Boom days.
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What he brings to the table between the years has
got to be something that maybe that Sam Darnold and
company are going to be alerted to.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
You gotta worry about how smart he is back there, right.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, Buck, there's nothing he hasn't seen pre snap, post
snap during plays. The communication the commanders, Actually, I've been
trying to do a little bit of what Mike McDonald's doing,
layering their play calls, changing at the snap, and it
hasn't worked. They've had a bunch of injury. They had
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both their defensive ends are an injury reserve. They have
safety on injured reserve. They are really hurt, especially on defense.
They aren't tackling very well. So the last week the
Commanders and Bobby Wagner talked about simplifying, not having layered
play calls either ors if a team is in shotgun
or a team's under center, if a team's in this formation,
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to change the call and to be more to just
be simpler. Wagner's in the middle of all of that,
and he has seen everything and A big advantage that
Wagner has in being able to play fast at age
thirty five is he's playing with the coach he grew
up with. The Ken Norton Jr. Was of course the
position coach, but dan Quinn was the main thrust of
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the legion of Boom defense and coordinating, and he worked
the closest besides Norton he was. Quinn was closest with
Wagner on those early twenty ten Seahawks, So the familiarity
with each other is off the charts for a guy
at this point in his career. He's hand picked by
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dan Quinn to be in the middle of the Washington
defense because of their experience in Seattle. There's nothing Donald
and Kobac and formations and motions can do that Bobby
Wagner hasn't seen defended and beaten in the past.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Greg bellis with US our Seahawks insider. Yeah, one hundred
and he's second right now in the National Football League
in career in tackles this season behind.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Jordan Brooks by the way.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah yeah, they're one and two, but he's one hundred
and thirty nine tackles away from the all time record.
I realized that tackles isn't like sacks or touchdowns or
things like that. As a matter of fact, sometimes the
tackle stat just sort of suggest that you play on
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a bad team that's on the field a lot. We
know that's not the case in Bobby Wagner's career. So
I guess my point is that being the leading tackler
does not come with the same sort of spice that
other statistics do. But do you think it is important
to Bobby Wagner? Do you think that he wants to
retire as the all time leading tackler in NFL history?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes? I talked about this with him. His position, that's
job one is to tackle and to tackle him where
you hit him. I talk about that a lot with
Ernest Jones and how the defense changed last year because
Dotson and Baker were getting dragged like ten cans on
the back of an old pickup truck when they would
hit people. And absolutely opposite with Ernest Jones, the same
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with Bobby Wagner. When he tackles you, you go down.
And that's the difference between punting and getting first downs,
which becomes a difference in not scoring and scoring, which
becomes a difference between wins and loss is tackling is
the the prerequisite of a middle linebacker and to be
the best at ever doing it and the most that
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ever had it. You're right statistically, some teams are accused
of padding tackle stats and giving tackles to guys who
just jump onto a pile at the end. But to
be the all time that speaks of longevity at that
position in particular. I mean, ask Brian Urlacker, as Dan
Morgan asked Luke Keaghley. It's hard to play at an
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elite level for as long as Bobby Wagner has without
really damaging yourself physically. Wagner keeps himself in exquisite shape.
He jokes with me about hot yoga. He always told
me I should go to the hot yoga studio in Bellevue.
You'd that would be the day that I can't even
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go with my wife in hot yoga. Why would I
go with Bobby Wagner that He was always telling me
to do that, and how restorative it was for him.
Now he loves it. He has a little place on
the East Side he always was near where he lived.
I think he still goes there in the offseason, and
his diet has been impeccable since he was in his
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early mid twenty He wasn't eating McDonald's when he came
into the league. He just is a pro and to
him all of that, he doesn't talk about the accolades,
but the tackling in particular the tackle mark is a
big deal for the position to show that he did
it year over year over year for fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I'm going to ask you something that I think Chuck
kind of brought up to us yesterday. I mean, is
this a game against Washington that if they don't have
Jaden Daniels, is it a walkover a game against I
mean with Marcus Mariota back there or do? I mean
they're going to prepare either way. But is Jaden Daniels
the X factor of whether or not this could be
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a game.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, he's the decisive factor. Yeah. If he doesn't play
by then the game shifts heavily towards Seattle and their defense.
I wouldn't call anything the Seahawks do will walk over.
I don't think they're that good of a team and
anybody can beat them. I mean anybody. And the Commanders
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drove into Kansas City Territory Monday, night. Five times five
of their eight drives were in Chief's territory, yet they
only scored a one touchdown. Was their best drive was
the first drive of the game, and they got inside
the red zone, just marching down the field, running and passing,
and then a pass went through receiver's hands intercepted. It
was a bubble screen. It was a really weird play.
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I believe it was McLaren that the ball went right
through his hands and into the defenders' hands, and that
was the end of the drive and they were chasing
the rest of the game. They didn't run the ball
at all, I mean sixty yards. They ran it just
six times. After halftime. It was a seven to nothing game.
Then it was seven to seven and a half, it
was fourteen to seven late in the third quarter. Yet
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Washington ran it just six times in the second half.
They I've mentioned this a couple of times. The Seahawks
number one ranked defense against the run, to me is
somewhat artificial because the Jaguars, the Buccaneers, those teams didn't
even run at all. Washington needs I know they Austin
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Eckler is out injured as well on injured reserve out
for the year, they need to run the ball. Jayden
Daniels has always been a part of that, well always
in the year and a half he's been in the league,
and he's got a hamstring issue, so even if he plays,
he may not be the run factor he normally is.
RPOs and keepers that Mariota would be healthy. But if
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Daniels doesn't play, the Seahawks should win. To answer your question,
if Daniels does play, this is not easy. This is
still a team that went to the NFC Championship Game
last year. Injuries aside. They're ticked off. They're three and
five and there's talking Washington as to what's gone wrong,
and they're angry and they realize that they have more
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talent than this. They're playing a tougher schedule this year.
They're not winning the games at the end like the
Hail Mary against Chicago that they won last year. This
team last year, when they won eleven plus games and
went to the MC title game, they won five games
in the last second, either on the last play or
the last five seconds of a game. That's hard to do,
and eventually the law of averages catches up to you,
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and you don't always win all those games, and that's
also some of what's happened this year are.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Sawks inside of Greg Bell with us here on checking
back in the morning. You can of course follow him
at the neews Tribune dot com complete Seahawks coverage and
if you want on Twitter, they're at Chee Bell Seattle.
So I know Seahawk fans are excited about having the
gang back together in the defensive secondary this Sunday night.
How pumped is Mike McDonald to have his a team
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going Sunday.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, Winnerspoon's the big deal. Ju looks like he's back.
I didn't see Witherspoon in the brief part of practice
we could watch on Monday. They didn't have to put
out a practice report and an injury report on Monday,
so there was no word on whether Witherspoon even came
out on the field after we weren't allowed to be
out there. We'll know more a little more today. But
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he had said last week McDonald had that Witherspoon is
coming back to practice fully this week too, or that
was the expectation. The Witherspoon piece coming back. I mentioned
this the other day, But that makes them hole for
the first time since the opener since the first five
plays of the opener, and then there's the question of, well,
what do you do when they're all back, because to me,
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Witherspoon and even Warrior are going to play. You're not
gonna take even worry out of Nickel that he's been
excelling at. They may go a lot more dying with
six defensive backs so they can get Woolen and Emon
Warry on the field with Witherspoon, and if they go dime,
that means of been only one linebacker on the field
most times, and that would be Ernest Jones, and they'd
take Drake Thomas off. They they just haven't had these options,
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and as McDonald said, this is a good problem to
have them excited to have those decisions to make, because
I've been just done. If we didn't have the numbers
at full strength that we've had since the opener, for
them to be five and two, the number one against
the run, the pressure rates that they've gotten without having
to blitz all of that, without having their starting off
defense together since the fifth player of the season speaks
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to how well they've been playing. No matter who's been
in there, the defense is where this team will lie
this is where they're If they're winning the division, it's
because of the defense. I know Donald's having a great
season and Smith and Jig Gobs leading the league. They're
gonna win based on their defense. And now it's finally
hold again.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
All right, man, great stuff. As always, we round table.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
At tomorrow, we do. Yeah, the table will be round.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It will be round. You and Hugh chopping it up
for us here tomorrow. So we look forward to.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Man, now that I'm not gonna have a World Series
iatus for the roundtable. Maybe hockey hiatus for it or Huskies,
I don't know when curling. Yeah, that's that's true. Gymnastics
is a winter sport in some places.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm excited to do it, all right, all right, thank you.
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do so. In the meantime, I want to play Halloween
candy Factor fiction. Oh so we're going to double up
on factor fiction here today. So let's play some Halloween
(19:35):
candy Factor fiction since we are just good, delicious all
of it. A couple of days away from the Halloween holiday.
So number one, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups a three and
a half point favorite over all other Halloween candy. Yes
or no?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Fact?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah, that's fact. I'm texting back to four nine, four
or five one?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Although I will say this, I'm not a fan of
Mark Glenn. Thank you for bringing in the candy, the
little teeny tiny ones, Oh, I see, barely worth their time?
You know, open it? And then you got sing rappers
on these. Think about your health, I don't. Don't you
think about my health. I'll think about my health.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Have you seen have you seen the collaboration with Oreos
those Reci's peanut butter cups with Oreo cookie like it's
a mixture. No, I've had the Oreos that have been
combined with Reese's peanut butter cups, and.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Those are amazing.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Have you had the big cups?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
No, that's too much.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I've always liked okay cups.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
No, yeah, okay, peanut butter big cups different. They have
some that have like potato chip in them. Oh yeah,
oh no me. They're gigantic and they're big.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
They're like this big, you know, popcorn and milk duds
together at the movie theater.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
That's the best that would be true.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
There is.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, it's very good.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
It's very good.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I just don't like the big ones are too big.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
So peanut butter cups are a three and a half
point favorite all over all other Halloween No, but not
even Snickers can't take the hook.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
It's pretty good though.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
All right, well it does satisfy question number two. After
Reese's and Snickers. Twigs still a two and a half
point underdog to Snickers and sounds like a six point
underdog to Reese's. But Ashley, I know you like twigs.
Do you take twigs and the points?
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I would take twigs in the points and I don't
care if to right twigs or left twis Do.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
You have to have both the twigs in order to
take it over as Snickers or you just take the
left door.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Of the right I'll take either one.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Okay, what do you think, Bucky, I'm not taking anything
over a greecious peanut butter cup, especially all the different variations,
because there's just one variation of twigs.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Twicks within at least two and a half points of Snickers.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Are you saying.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
No, no, a three point Oh yeah, yeah, you reach
his peanut butter cups and Snickers.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I can live on it.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, way more than a Snickers.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
The home field advantage they say, is worth three points
in football, So you're saying that there's no way that
if I'm even with home field advantage TwixT as beating Snickers.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, it's a wild card. It's getting all right.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Next one, if you've had enough chocolate or let's say
you're allergic to.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, it's fun talking about chocolate though.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Starburst is a typical five point dog to chocolate treats,
but with the home field advantage like those I've mentioned previously.
Do you lay the five points and take Starburst at home?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Fiction? Fiction?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, No, I wouldn't take that.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah no, again, always small, they don't have big Starbursts.
It's got work to get to one little thing that
then let's be honest, by the end of it, it's
kind of annoying, like, all right, just go away, go
get out of there.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Yeah, I mean I like, but I do too, But
that's too big for Starbursts to overcome five points even
at home.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well that's what I'm saying though, Like, would you take
the points? Yeah? No, Like I'm right recognizing the chocolate's
going to be the favorite.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
No, I still think it's I think on a given.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Day, I take the Starburst in the points.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
On a given day.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Finally, like the Jets, well, Smarties ever again be a favorite.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
No, if they're playing the Bengals for children, when.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
It's because it's Smarties, the ones that you can get
the necklace, those smartiest necklaces.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Different, similar, similar, but it's a different.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Because as a child, when I get a whole necklace
full of Smarties, maybe that's wrong.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I could be wrong there.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
If there's no necklace, No, it's a You're just a
jet for life.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's just the little pieces of flavored chalk, right.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah's not a fan?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but what's upon a time they were
pretty popular, but it's been a long time since.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You have a lot of candy options back in the day.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's been a long time since anyone grabs Smarties first
out of the out of No, my kids do that
on Halloween the ground. Alright, all right, let's play the
real factor fiction. Now, where's that to go?
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Speaker 4 (24:19):
All right, Ashley's picked today. Who are we gonna go with?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Well, we're gonna go to Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Okay, we're going to the NFL Kansas City and Buffalo
meeting up again on Sunday and I always love a
home underdog Buffalo getting two and a half points at
home against the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Give me the Bills plus the two and a half
going for.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
The big Daddy match for the weekend, that's right, Yeah, yeah,
And that's the crazy thing with the Bills is like
they can win this, They could win it by thirty
and it's still like, well, let's see it in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
But they seem to do well against the Chiefs in
the regular season.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
They don't they do better? Yeah, they definitely do better.
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
All Right, So where's the game being played in Buffalo?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
In Buffalo and they are underdogs? Yeah, at home? So
they can't say City Chiefs. That is a little surprising. Yeah,
I'd be on that side myself. So Ashley's gonna go
ahead and take the two and a half points at
home for Josh Allen and the Bills. If you agree
with that pick, what you're going to do is text
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Speaker 1 (25:27):
Wow.
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you have to do.
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(26:38):
are saying, give us those two and a half points,
We're not gonna need them. Fact four nine four five one,
fiction four nine four to five one. Whether you agree
or disagree with the pick, the Buffalo Bills at home
getting two and a half points against the Kansas City Chiefs.
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(27:00):
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Speaker 4 (27:26):
I do have the Mariners off season already on my brain.
Bucky and I had several conversations off the area yesterday
trying to figure out exactly what the Mariners are going
to have to spend this offseason because it's very difficult.
You can go to these websites, but they're a little misleading,
and they don't have all the accurate information, and some
(27:47):
of the things can be a bit confusing to try
to sift through. And so through my own research through
Adam Jude, using his article recently in the Seattle Times,
and then also just reaching out independently to a couple
of people last night to try to get my brain
and my arms around this. This is basically what the
Mariners are going to have going into the offseason through
(28:10):
arbitration numbers that are going to go up this year
for a handful of players on this roster. They're sitting
right now with in their minds about one hundred and
thirty to one hundred and thirty five million dollars in
payroll already committed. So that's where they're at right now,
one hundred and thirty to one hundred and thirty five.
And based on what we heard from Justin and Jerry
(28:31):
themselves in the press conference last week, they want to
start the season where they kind of finished the season
payroll wise, and so the projected payroll that their friendly
zone is one hundred and sixty to one hundred and
sixty five. That's where they're sort of wanting to start
next year. So that gives you about thirty million dollars
(28:54):
in payroll to work with this offseason. Now, before you
start thinking about the big names you're going to add,
it's going to go away really quickly if in fact
your goal is to bring back a couple of the
guys who are reaching free agency. As a matter of fact,
it's not a payroll when you consider bringing Josh Naylor back.
(29:15):
It's really a nay roll. That's what it is. What's
our nay roll going into this offseason, and our nay
roll thirty million dollars is going to be eaten up,
probably about twenty million a year on Josh Naylor if
in fact they can figure out the right combination of
words and money and promises to Josh Naylor to keep
him in a Mari in her uniform. Now, if you
(29:35):
add Polonko, let's go add Polonko. You're looking at like
two years twenty five million dollars for Polonko. So per season,
that's twenty that's thirty two and a half. Right there,
there goes there goes your nay roll. It's used up.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
That's all we got to spend. And that's not adding
one single player that wasn't on the roster last year.
As a matter of fact, it's subtracting a Geno Suarez
from the roster because it just unless Gino Suarez just
gives them the deal of a lifetime. I just don't
think that their idea is to bring Geno Suarez back
(30:11):
next season, and I think he's certainly third of those
three guys on their priority list. So first base, you
have a hole. I mean you traded away Tyler Locklear,
Luke Rayley. You just couldn't feel confident him playing that
position next year. So if it's not Josh Naylor, then Okamoto,
the Japanese player that's going to be entering free agency
(30:33):
this year, or maybe a Max Muncy you get him
on a shorter deal away from the Los Angeles Dodgers.
They're not going to bring him back next season, at
least I doubt so. First base as a hole, Josh
Naylor fills it quite well. Third Base I don't think
that they see as a whole. I think they're okay
starting the season next year with Ben Williamson getting great defense,
(30:55):
getting a contact hitter, and seeing if he can develop
a little bit of power. Here's also the other thing
about it. Colt Emerson is probably going to be up
at some point during the season and probably not gonna
bump JP Crawford out of the starting lineup. It's probably
Colt Emerson that will if Ben Williamson can't get the
(31:16):
job done, He'll get the first crack at replacing Ben
Williamson and becoming our starting third baseman, with the idea
that JP's got one year left on his deal, and
then JP hands over the shortstop position to Emerson when
this season comes to a close. So Emerson is your
solution to a Ben Williamson and to JP Crawford at
(31:37):
the exact same time. I think that is their plan.
And if you bring back Polonko, he's obviously in the
second base mix along with Reevas and Ryan Bliss. But
their idea is that Cole Young becomes a fixture, Polonko
becomes the DH. They have every faith that Cole Young
is going to be a really good player for the
Mariners for a long time to come. So with all
(31:59):
that said, just to summarize, do not expect a lot
of additions this offseason. They'll tinker, but I don't think
we're going to have a significant off addition to this
team what you can expect, and I fully believe this
is an attempted repeat of how they did things in
twenty twenty four. They did not have a productive offseason
(32:21):
last year, and they ended up having a very productive
trading deadline. So what I think they're going to do,
because they have even fewer holes this offseason than they've
ever had in the Depoto era, is I think they're
going to be very quiet when it comes to additions
this offseason, and then they will be very loud again
at the trading deadline. If Ben Williamson and Colt Emerson
(32:43):
don't work out, we'll go get a third basement at
the trading deadline. The idea being that we get an
expiring contract like we got in Josh Naylor. We can
get a fifteen to twenty million dollar value third baseman,
but we only pay him a third of that salary
for the rest of the year, and then we can
assess whether or not we want to continue with that person,
or try to continue with that person, or not continue
(33:06):
with them. So for those that have big visions of
what all's going to be added this offseason to the
Mariners roster. I'd kind of quit on that. I think
the goal is going to be to bring back Naylor
and Polonko and then just run it back with the
same dudes like they did in twenty twenty that they
had in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, well, I would assume that they're not probably. I mean,
that's the old saying of don't fix it if it
ain't broke, And I mean, I guess if you want
to think that there was a brokenness because you didn't
get to the World Series, you can go ahead and
think that. I think you're a couple of swings, are
a couple of different pitches away from from being there
and still competing. So yeah, if you can figure out
a way to bring back I think the most important
(33:46):
is Naylor Polonko. I don't know what he's done to
his value. Obviously, he's not going to sign the club
or the one layer option. You know he's gonna he's
gonna want more than that. And so but if you
can do that bring those two, I think that fills
your significant holes because you don't have a DHR as
of right now, and you don't have a first basement
(34:07):
as of right now. Yeah, feel those two. I'm fine
with going with the youngsters. I like what I saw
of Ben Williamson. I think there's still room for growth,
and exactly the same with.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
With Cole Young.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
And you still would have, you know, the opportunity for
Polonko to play some second base and or Bliss when
he comes back from his injury.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, we do get a text of someone asking does
this include Garver or no Garver?
Speaker 5 (34:29):
No Garver, no Garver.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
They will not pick up the Garver option, that that's
not going to happen. So yeah, so I think that's
the off season, so I would prepare yourself accordingly. I
think that they feel good about being able to bring
Naylor back and Polonko back. It's not going to be
all three of them, but if they do bring back
two of the three, that probably means there aren't a
lot of other additions that are going to be made.
(34:50):
The only other wild card in this is if you decided,
you know what Randy Rose arena with just one year
left on his contract, maybe we move him or Luis
Castillo at twenty four million dollars. Maybe we move him.
That's how you may may figure out a way to
bring in new faces to fill other gaps. But at
this stage, I think they're pretty much going to try
(35:11):
to run it back in twenty twenty six with the
same team they finish twenty twenty five with and then
leave themselves the potential to add where they have holes
via injury or failures at the trading deadline, being very aggressive.
I think that's the game plan that worked, they feel
worked for them this year, and I have a feeling
they're going to try to repeat that going into next season.
(35:33):
So maybe that's disappointing to you, maybe that's uplifting to you.
I don't know, but I believe in my heart that
is the game plan going into the offseason. All right,
Cam Cleveland is next. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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