November 10, 2025 • 39 mins
MMQB with HUGH MILLEN We have another Seahawks blowout victory to talk about and Hugh starts off our conversation with praise for the Hawks and a note that the score doesn’t reflect the level of dominance. Does Hugh ever remember seeing the same play happen twice in one game and how was the fumble/touchdown able to happen twice? :30- MMQB continues with Hugh as we break down the Sam Darnold-JSN tandem and the play of Jalen Sundell. :45- We wrap up the first hour of MMQB with Hugh
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So you're telling me you Millen might have a thing
or three to say about this Seahawks football team.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Why they're playing right now? Is that what I'm to gather?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yep, yep, I've figured this out and out took me,
I don't know, almost nine years. But this guy definitely
has some things to say about football.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's got some opinions, though I hope he backs them up.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Mike Holmberan will be joining the conversation at nine o'clock.
But joining us now is our QB one the best
analyst in the business.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hugh Millan is with us. How are you, sir? What's happening? Gang?
Doing great? All right, doing good?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Another blowout victory to discuss, forty four to twenty two
over the Arizona Cardinals. They were up thirty five to
nothing with half of the second quarter remaining. Where does
the conversation start with Hugh Millan today?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, I just think, as you said, domination. I think
for a lot of people they look at the score
forty four to twenty two, you say, oh, well, the
Seahawks offense was lights out defense, and you know that's
they had only had one game prior to yesterday where
the opponent had scored twenty points or more. That was
of course Tampa Bay. But you know, when you look
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at first of all, the offense they score thirty, right,
not forty four, the defense and the defense they gave
up three touchdowns, one of them was at their own
three yard line after a turnover. Another one was at
their own nineteen following a turnover. They were able to
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get out of another turnover at their own twenty four
from downs, Yes, there was an eighty four yarder. Okay,
we'll hang that on the defense. One touchdown in the
fourth quarter of a blowout. Sorry, maybe they weren't you know,
you know, the did some backups in and obviously they
weren't emotionally charged about that. So I think that the
score just doesn't indicate the level of dominance. But I think,
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you know, just all phases, including the special teams. I
just think two straight weeks and it sets up just
an unbelievably compelling game for next week. But we won't
quite get to that, but yeah, that would. My thought
is how the score doesn't really reflect what the game showed.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You, right, and yet the game showed you a couple different,
like different sides of it. Obviously, you got whatever a
quarter and a half into it and you're up thirty
five to zero, and then like the third quarter was
very ugly, and so when you're deciphering it, is it
just more of all, right, I understand, you know, when
you're up like that, the idea of being super ultra focused,
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maybe with ball security or.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Something like that. Then it can kind of wane.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Simply because you're looking at the scoreboard and really what
you're hoping for at that point is just getting to
the end of the game healthy.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I think it was an exercise in getting the
clock to double zero. I mean, I think it's you know,
if you're a quality football team, and certainly the defense.
I mean when Seattle went up twenty one and nothing,
I don't want to talk out of both sides of
my mouth. I said last week at the Commander game
that I thought, at twenty one nothing, the game's over.
You know, the same thing here a minute and twenty
three to go in the first quarter, you're up twenty
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one and nothing. How's a good team going to lose
to a backup quarterback in that situation. I mean, you know,
you're talking less than a one percent chance that you're
gonna lose that game. But certainly, when you went up
thirty five to nothing with eight thirty three to go
in the second quarter, at that point, you had played
exactly thirty five point seven percent of a football game.
So so you you know, you still had sixty four
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point three percent of a football game to play, and
so I think defensively, you you kind of lost some
of the intense. You know, intensity is the best ally
of a defender. Uh, so you don't have that clearly
from a scheme standpoint, Mike McDonald said, I'm not showing
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anything more to the Rams. There's no point. You know,
all our gucci stuff, we we shot that in the
first quarter. We got our turnovers. Let's just play vanilla.
Let's stay healthy. Uh. You know you had twelve pass
attempts by by Sam Darnold yesterday in in Uh let
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me let me find it. On October eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
the Jets beat the Bills forty five to fourteen, and
they had ten pass attempts. Remember that, nineteen seventy eight.
Since then, nineteen seventy nine, there have been eleven two
hundred and seventy six games. That's double that because there's
two teams in it. So two point three percent of
all games since nineteen seventy nine a team scores forty
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four or more points. Okay, two point three percent of
the time there have been because there's five hundred and
eleven times where you got forty four points in none
of those games did you have as few as twelve
pass attempts. The last five hundred and eleven times going
back to nineteen seventy nine, that the NFL has had
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forty four points or more by an offense, there have
always been more than twelve pass attempts. So it was
just it was just kind of a wonky wonky game.
You know, from an offensive standpoint, you you let off
the gas. You know, you're not you're not in a flow,
in a rhythm, you know, I think, I don't know,
maybe Jayden daniels injury was of top of mind, but
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they just felt like, Okay, we're gonna turn this into
a nine on seven game. What does that mean? In practice?
When you go to the NFL, nine and seven is
the run period. It's the opposite of seven on seven.
It's it's nine players on one side, seven on the other.
You don't have the secondary just against the front seven
and it's an all running period, all runs. And so
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you just watched a nine on seven period for sixty
four point three percent of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, it's gonna skew the past run ratio numbers for
the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Hugh Mellan is with us ur QB one. We are
Monday morning quarterbacking.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, let's highlight that defense then, since that's where it started.
And man number one, have you ever seen twin plays
like that from a defense and a game? I mean
to have basically the exact same players creating the exact
same result two different times on the defensive side of
the ball, and then go first they're into telling me
why that happened, what took place that made that those
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fantastic results occur.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, let me give it to you from the perspective
of of I'm a quarterback preparing for the Seahawks. Like, Okay,
Matthew Stafford's gonna be now, Matthew Stafford's a veteran for
the most better to Hannah. But the complexity of that
first one is just off the chain. Okay, So so
the Cardinals and the second one had some complexity, not
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quite as much as the first, but I'll spend some
time on that first one. So the Cardinals they had
they were in a what I call queen right off,
said I. But the fullback in that situation was alignment. Okay,
so they were built to protect. But too, if I'm
I'm gonna get, say, from Joe Jacobe Prissette's perspective, outside
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my left tackle, I've got three defenders. I've got DeMarcus Lawrence.
Then outside of him, I have Nick Aman Warry up
on the line of scrapers. And now side of him,
I got Kobe Bryant. So now to my right, I've
got I've got Chennan Nuoso. He's gonna drop off. He's
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not gonna rush, he's gonna block off. Uh uh go
off into the flat. But the blitz off to my left,
you're gonna have Kobe Bryant's gonna eat up the left tackle.
Then you're gonna have Emon Worry. Then he's gonna come
in the B gap, and you have DeMarcus Lawrence. He
lines up on the five tech that's outside the tackle.
He's gonna loop all the way into the A gap
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and then for oh, by the way, while they're doing this,
the Seahawks they're playing they're not they're playing a zone blitz,
but they're clouding to one side, meaning they're they're putting
uh there to the side of the blizz. They're having
Witherspoon just play in the flat. He's got a safety
over the top, so he can jump anything that's in
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the flat. He doesn't have deep responsibility, so that that's
unusual and that fact, and then now you've got on
top of that, Tyree Knight is what's called key dogging
or green dogging. So when he sees the running back
block on that side, this total overload to the left,
then now Tyree Knight, he's gonna blitz. He's gonna come in.
And by the way, in the process of this, they're
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gonna take that lineman who was he's got a sixty number.
He's in the backfield. He's gonna go over to the right,
and there's a point where you can stop the tape,
and the right guard, the right tackle, and that offensive
lineman who has started at the full back position. He
goes to the right. There's a point you can stop
the tape and three guys, three offensive linemen are blocking
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Leonard Williams over to Jacoby Brissett's right, Nuoso is dropping
off on that side. All the havoc is happening on
my left side. If I'm Jacoby Brissett, and you know,
Tyreese Knight comes unblocked. That is a lot of stuff
for an offense to to process. And then you know
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you talk about playmaking. Uh, Tyra Knight has the presence
to just say, hey, I'm gonna get up my hand
up at exactly the right time, at exactly the right
spot and hit the ball. And you know that's just
you just be a playmaker. I mean you see guys,
when boxers, you know, and when when boxers are practicing boxing,
they have their trainer, they put those big mits on
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and they say, hit my hand, hit my hand right.
You know obviously it's to you know, hand eye coordination. Well,
Tyree's Knight right in that right in that moment with
all that thing happened, he he has to be able
to have that that sense of playmaking. Uh. And so
he creates the the the uh, the turnover and the
Marcus Lawrence just happens to be in the right spot.
Nice bounce, uh the other one the second touchdown. Seven
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guys line up to uh, Jacobe Brissett, I'm gonna I'm
gonna go first person. Okay, I got I got, I
got seven seahawks up on my line of screamage. To
my left, I got four guys to my to my right,
I got three. So now I'm gonna I'm gonna send
my center to the left to get the four. Oh crap.
The two of those guys just backed off. That was
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was it Ocada and Drake Thomas. So two of those
guys who are online scream Jay back off to play
a zone three D three hunder zone. But now it's
an overload to the side, uh, to the right side.
And you have Tyreese Knight. He's he's his job is
to slam the my right guard and then allow for
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Lawrence to loop back in. But by in the process
of slamming the right guard, he gets inside leverage on
the right guard, which the right guard doesn't want to
give up. And now Knight is able to accelerate. Now
I'm gonna go back to third person. So now Knight
is able to accelerate and again the exact timing to
get his hand up. And playmakers, I mean you hear
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coaches talk all the time, Hey, we need playmakers. And
and Knight was able to make a plane play. But
the star of the show is Mike McDonald. Yeah. Period,
just designing these plays and the and how he teaches
the disguise and knowing it's It's like these guys got
why Mike McDonald spends ninety work hours a week working okay,
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and the part of his passion is is like, I'm
gonna each week, I'm gonna break down your protection and
if you're in this format, personel group, I'm betting you're
going to be in this protection and I'm going to
attack that weakness. And so the nuance of him being
able to do it, that's where I think the showdown
is next Sunday. By the way, it's it's Mike McDonald
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against Sean McVay. That's the freaking chess. That's where the
game not not only is it the chess matched in
my opinion, that's where the game lies. But but get
back to yesterday. I just think just well designed schemes
and and when you and you watch and you say,
you know what, Mike McDonald, you called up the right
blitz for that protection and happens over and over again,
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and and that's a lot of the reasons why you
see uh this, uh this kind of pressure. I mean
the Seahawks, depending on what cyber metrics you look at,
now one of them has has boy moth in the
top twelve and pass rust win rate. Another one PFF
hasn't no Seahawk in the top fifty two in terms
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of I'm talking about edge presser guys. So depending on
who you want to trust, you know, there's put it
this way, there's no Miles Garrett right right on the team.
We can agree on that they're creating this all this
havoc by the scheme.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, well, I mean, okay, then going into that a
little bit, I mean, you, having played as long as
you did and prepared and watched the video, when somebody
like Mike McDonald comes up with something that's different than
you hadn't seen before, how rattled does that get you?
On the other side, Because I have to imagine that
you prepare for what you've seen and then obviously maybe
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you're doing something wrinkles that they haven't seen offensively. And
yet when they end up doing something that just completely
out of their norm, right, not usually rushing up the
middle or or bringing a blitzer up the middle, but
just all of that, how how much is that like,
oh my gosh, what the heck was that? Not just
how I was disguised, but just the simplicity of they
just don't do that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I wasn't expecting that at all. Yeah, I think on
Monday when you watch the tape, you kind of like,
I would be like, well, f me. And then you know,
more appropriately, I think, well, you know that's always problem,
or that's Apeman's problem, because I was going to be
wearing a ball cap. But for the most part, you know,
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you kind of know you're gonna have to do. Now
I started a game against Buddy Ryan, and you know,
you watch the tape on Monday and you're like, are
you kidding me? This is gonna be a long damn week,
you know, because I'm gonna have to do extra time
to prepare for all this stuff. And you know, as
I said, I hope I was able to convey to
you the complexity of I mean, the second one, the
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second toutdown was was you know, moderately high complex you know,
more than the average for sure. But the first one
was just like that, that was a masterpiece. And uh
and and you know the Cardinals couldn't deal with it.
I mean you had a veteran quarterback, Uh you know
that that that he couldn't deal with it, and and
so uh yeah, I think that it's it's just something
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where you say, okay, it's not just well that was
that was tough. You know that McDonald does that different
each week, right, Like he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna
analyze your protection and he's gonna find your tendency, and
he's gonna find your weaknesses, and he's gonna know like
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number thirty one for whoever thirty one is for for
h Cardinals camp pass block. So now you say, okay,
we're gonna overload him, make him go coast to coast.
It's almost he's gonna be a traffic home. I don't
know who's thirty one for. Yeah, so I should know that, right,
he's their number one back. But that's a relic of
my my playing days. You don't. You just see numbers.
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You don't worry about names, right, you know who's fifty
six for the Giants? I don't know he's fifty six.
You know you better know that guy. I know he's
fifty six, and I know he's really fast and he's
really nasty. Like we don't we don't. We don't use
first and last name. We just use numbers, right, So,
so apologies to anybody in that regard, but but you know,
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I'm just saying, uh, you know, I see see how
McDonald he he he, he finds where the weakness is
and it's really it's it's beautiful to watch. And you know,
so Mike McDonald he steps up in the post game,
and you know he's a humble guy and and and
he's you know, thinking about his players. He's got this
beautiful countenance about him. But you know he could be
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if he if he was just by nature and irrogant
human being, he could just get up there with a
cigar and go do you realize how badass I am?
That could be his his press conference? Okay? You know,
like like do you people do I need to do?
I need to give a lesson up here for you,
just like how freaking awesome I am? You know, but John, John, John,
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get up here, tell them how awesome I am. Exactly right.
It's fun, man, It's it's fun. I mean, you took
a team that Arizona. Think about this, and and and
you mentioned John Snader. I want to mention this. I
think for years I did these Monday shows and I
and I said, I lauded Pete Carroll for you know
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what that team is just they're they're never an emotional
no show. Think of what Seattle and and Arizona had.
They both had dominant wins on National TV. Seattle on Sunday,
they had to fly the coast, you know, Arizona at
Dallas and you know, Dak Prescott say what you want
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that guy? That guy's lights out in that stadium. So
they both had incredible victories. And it's just we said,
who can't handle success? Well, the Cardinals were flat as
hell and the Seahawks were just absolutely just super charged
and so emotionally. You know, for years, I frequently credit
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Pete Carroll, you know, and and Carol deserves credit. But
I think that there's something about Schnyder and how he
identifies guys that have a chip on the show only
digs deep. Oh you were a high school wrestling champion. Hm,
that secks a box for me, you know, like he's
always looking, Oh you got you know you're you came
from a broken family at four stepdads and the third
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of your stepdads used to beat the hell out of him. Okay,
all right, you know, like he's he's always looking for
somebody who's got a chip. And and so I think
that well, I don't retract any of the statements I
made about Carol. I think I think now we see
it with McDonald and that was a beautiful performance of
freaking all gas, no breaks. That was a team that
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was just way more ready to play emotionally. Now you
can say they had more to play for it, but yeah, Arizona,
you know, like they're still in the playoff contention going
to that game at three and five, and maybe they
think they've got their quarterback blah blah blah, and they're
just it was. It was a no contest from an
emotional standpoint. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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Kevin Arlan CBS on the call the first touchdown of
the game right there, the long pass from Sam Darnold,
the JS and the most magical pass catch combination all
of the National Football League right now. It started the
day a route Seattle forty four, Arizona twenty two.
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We're here to.
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Analyze it for you on Monday morning. Quarterback Mike Homern
will join us at nine o'clock. Hugh Millan is with
us right now, and you know here we talked about
the defense in our first segment. But the only negative
that I saw from yesterday I'm not worried about like careless,
sloppy play when you're up thirty five so much and
I'm not, And it then sound like the injuries are
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going to be all that debilitating. What crossed my mind
was Clint Kubiak head coaching rumors are going to start.
Because if I'm the Buffalo Low Bills and I got
shut out by the Miami Dolphins for three quarters and
I'm watching what's happening here in Seattle, the guy that's
turned Sam Darnald into Joe Montana in nine weeks, Yeah,
that's somebody I'm going to be interested in. And I
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want to start with just specifically like play action with you,
because I don't keep like perfect notes, but I have
on play action passes of his twelve five for six
eighty seven yards, four first downs and a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's like magical.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It feels like it's automatic whenever this team goes play
action Donald to JS in particular.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, and it's hard because when he's under center. That
touchdown that we just played, that was under center, So
you have to turn your back to the defense, so
you get a picture of what you think the secondary
is going to be, and then you have to turn
and process and say, Okay, is it what I thought
it was going to be or is it something different?
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And so in that case that you mentioned, Clint Kubiak,
all the d to see the precisions in the details
you can say, hang a left at the buick when
you're out. You know, when you're in like third grade,
playing touch football in the street right, But where where
you really distinguish yourself is in the little nuances and
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on that play balls on the right, Halse, you're gonna
go with the right handed quarterback and you're gonna go
play action. As you said, we're gonna fake this stretch
to the right. Now, right handed quarterback going to his left.
You got to get a great block from us what's
called a slice bock coming from the tight end on
the backside. But that the alignment, you had a relative
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cut split by the receiver. So Jsen is to the left,
but he's well inside the numbers, three four yards inside
the numbers. Agetting balls on the right half. So the corner,
that's what's called inside the divider, and so that means
the corner is gonna play outside technique based on the split.
And then you've got Rashi Shahid. He's in a tighter
split and he's inside the divider. So you got both
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corners playing to the outside. Now what Jasn does is
he's gonna he's gonna do do a slight seam release,
he's gonna come inside to give him enough space. Now
the corner's thinking, well, you're trying to buy space to
run what's called the sail route, the intermediate out route.
And and so Jaysn does that, and he sells. He
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sells the sail route. But because of the divider and
the splits, as I just described, jays On is on
his out and up. He's not gonna go outside of
the defender. He's gonna start to break outside, but he's
he's so inside leveraged that he can break inside of
the corner. Now he goes up the sideline, and let's
go back to Darnald. Darnald never sets his feet. His
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momentum is taking to the sideline. That that that degree
of difficulty, the accuracy that he had was just insane.
Now if you're if you're like nitpicking down to the inch,
it was a few inches under under thrown, underthrown. So
here's the part about JSN. He has got so many
elite traits. And one of his elite traits is ball tracking.
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And you guys know from baseball, you know how outfielder's
a big part of who can get run down a ball.
It's the angle you take and how quick do you
pick up the flight of the ball. I know where
that ball is gonna be way at its apex. And
some receivers don't have that gift. Some receivers it's like
the ball's gotta be four feet from him before they
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know where it's gonna land. They just don't ball. And
so JSN knows it's slightly underthrown. So what does he do.
He continues to widen on the corner who had outside leverage,
and he starts to slow down, and he's acting he's
looking back to the ball, but he's acting like his
arms he's gonna go to but he puts his arms
out like like a spread your arms out as willy
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as you can. He's literally shielding the defender, having a
sense that the ball is gonna be slightly underthrown. But
he's taking his body and he's widening, widening, widening to
make the defender go through his body. And and so
then he's and then he's able to close and buy
uh that that ball placement. Uh, you're just being able
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to beat the free safety. He's coming over. He's got
the concentration and he is a freaking closer closer. I mean,
think of a guy on a fast break. You know,
it's all well and good if you can jump in sky,
but you got to get the ball in the hoop right, Like,
all these things don't matter unless you can close with
guys draped all around you and grabbing at you and
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coming to hear his closing. Oh my god, if he
was a salesman, he would, he would, he'd He's sell
like four hundred and fifty Mercedes every month.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
This guy has always always he's closing.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And and and so uh and and then you know,
received heat from his split cut. He sprints over to
occupy Buddha Bakers. So just to clarify Buddha Baker, he
you know, he he sees him. So Sam Donald knows
in that coverage that quarters look that the safety could
turn and double to that side. But but but by
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having that formation as you have it, and you say, well,
she hates sprint over to Buddha Baker and stop in
front of him, Well, that allows the defense to declare itself.
For Sam Donald, who as we said, has turn his
back to the defense. All of this stuff has to mesh.
All of these details are important. There's not one thing
that I said in this description that is not important
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to the touchdown. And so it's that the precision is
in the details. So it's not just like, hey, let's
just just you know, put a guy up. We don't care,
you know. Does he take an inside stem? That doesn't matter.
Where does he line up? Is he three yards inside
the numbers? Or are one yard inside the number? That
doesn't matter, But the lineup where you want? Like nothing,
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All of this stuff is precisely calcul related to get
a beautiful touchdown like that.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I wanted to dive into the run game. We don't
have enough time to get all of that. So I'm
just ask this real quick, Sundell. The center went down,
Timmy came in, big drop off, similar saying, good, what's
your great on him?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
All right, Sindell, let's very quick. Sindell is a a
great athlete, now, not great athlete by you know, NBA
two guard standpoint, great athlete by centers. If there was
a like a super you guys remember you guys old
enough to remember superstars competition, you know, made for TV deals.
Mark Okay, Jason Sandel against all the NFL centers, He's
(27:39):
gonna win the obstacle course. If if it if it's
like part speed and part agility. Jason Sandel is gonna
win the obstacle course, but the keg toss over the
top of the the pule vault ball, he's gonna lose that.
He's he is, he is the he's got great like
like like that first sweep in the the like the
fourth play of the game when they did the toss
(28:01):
sweep to Rashichi heat. Watch Jason Sindell pull outside. There's
a poor part where he bursts out by the left sideline.
This is a center out. It looks like a freaking
tight end. There's a burst to his There's another screenplay
over to the right side on a on a smoke screen.
He's trying to get up on a safety his burst
like it looks like a tight end. He has got
(28:22):
some feet. Now power power is a problem for him,
but uh uh, you know, but he's smart. He's playing
alongside his buddy from South Dakota State. They work well
in tandem. So yeah, it's a problem. He's he's turned
into a pretty damn good center. Uh if you just
ignore that, he's got some power deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
So he's more like Tom Selleck than Alex Carris. Taking
it back to your Battle of the Network stars, Kamaris.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, I can remember. Yeah, he was obstacle court.
The Detroit Tigers baseball cap was flying off his hand. Yeah,
I remember that vividly.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Remember how Jamal Adams played lot like Heather Thomas. All right,
just for one minute, because I want to get this
in in this segment, sha Heed his use, give me
a one minute breakdown on what you got to see
from the newcomer.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well, they got him the balls and running back. It's fine.
I put this way. His speed definitely showed and and
you see defenders turned out of their back pedal and
having declared now rasia. Now I'm going to be a
lot more serious than I'm gonna sound. Those those highlighter
green shoes you wore, keep keep wearing those. It's from
(29:35):
a style standpoint, it looks good on you, okay. But
also you look fast, dude, You look fast, and you
are influencing guys to get the hell out of their
back pedal, which declares the the coverage better for the quarterback.
So his speed is a jolt. Now his feet are
moving so damn fast. Uh And and even looks faster
(29:57):
with those shoes. He's shorter, so you know, I have
to you know, have to caution. But his feet are
just like a road runner. And so yeah, yeah, there's
times he runs a shallow cross early on boom he
just gets like, whoa that dude? Who is that guy?
He got there really fast. He's running clearouts. And as
I said, as a quarterback, you when you see a
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defensive back in the backpedal, you're kind of like, well,
is any position to drive top down on an intermediate cut?
But if we can get him out of his back
pedal and turning and running for the deep, now I
know I can throw that intermediate cut and that little
bit of extra speed can cause that. And you can
literally see it on a tape from yesterday. All right,
(30:41):
Hugh Mellan is with us QB one.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
We are Monday morning quarterbacking here on this day forty
four to twenty two when over the Arizona Cardinals yesterday.
More from Hugh next on Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
This will be a thirty four yard drive thirty two
for two today and that is the record.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Center.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
There's your all time field goal mat kicker. And Seahawk history.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Kevin Harland on the call yesterday, I wanted to bring
that up a part of these special teams day. Meyers
three for three field goals, five for five extra points
to a perfect day. He also made history by becoming
the all time field goal kicking leader in Seahawks history.
And that's a pretty good list of kickers over time.
Hugh Millan is with us. Mike Homer join us at
(31:32):
nine o'clock. I also like that Rashid sha heat his
first game as a Seahawk, he returns to kick, he
touches the ball. The first guy to touch a ball
in his first game is a Seahawk. But Hewet, I
wanted to ask you about special teams. Wise man, you
know you're clicking when you get a big hit on
special teams every single every single time, and coverage, and
(31:53):
so I wanted to just ask you about the special
teams overall and what your take on it was.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, I think this is going to be interesting for
Seahawk fans. I found it interesting. It was in my
notes to talk about on a round table. I didn't
get to it. It was on my notes to talk to
you on Friday. Didn't get to it. Softy didn't get
to it. So in my studies, there's a new statistic
coming out, expected points Added. And basically what it does
(32:23):
it takes a big database of all the NFL plays
and it says, based on the down and distance, field position,
et cetera, opponent, what are your expected points on that possession?
For example? And I've I've ran the correlation stats on
Microsoft Excel. They they play out very favorably, so it's
(32:47):
a legit deal. Like for example, remember the Cooper cup
Cats in sixty seven yards that was like five point
six expected points added because it was third down, which
had it been on first down, would have been less.
It would have been less because I'm third down, You're
more likely to have to punt, right, So all of
those factors play in and and so expected points average added.
(33:11):
I look at it more on offense and defense. But
what I stumbled on in my preparation was the that
the team that is number one in the NFL in
what the NFL has in their stat portal Special Teams
EPA per game Seattle Seahawks number one in the NFL,
So EPA. I study it more from offense and defense.
(33:34):
I don't reference it often because a lot of fans
are like, it seems like a hard stat to grasp.
But again, if all you got was this number one,
it's a new stat. Number two it correlates to winning.
I've run the numbers. And number three, the Seattle Seahawks
special teams are number one in that stat. That's all
you need to know.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Wright Man, Well, I mean we don't. I'm I was
going to get into the run game. I mean, I
just I am curious. They end up running the ball
for two hundred yards before the kneel downs, and and
yet that also they ran it fifty times because of
the score. Did you like what you saw out of
the run game?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, I think it's so hard to gauge when when
your opponent knows you're running. So whether it was good
or whether it was bad, it just it's not normal football,
you know. Again, Yeah, sixty four percent of that game
was not a football game. It was just an exercise
in getting the clock to double zero. So so, but
I will say schematically, one thing that I did notice
(34:36):
is is there was more. Now, the NFL doesn't play
a lot of man schemes. Okay, you're you're trying to
get double teams at the defensive line layer, whether it's
zone blocking or two guys are coming off, you're hitting
the defensive tackle. The center and the guard are hitting
the defensive tackle. They're trying to get movement, and then
one of them is going to go off to the
(34:56):
linebacker at the second level, and that's determined by the run,
which way the defense flows, and what have you. And
and and it's kind of dynamic in that sense of
how now it's read uh gap scheme where you're blocking
down at the point of attack, you're trying to get
double teams, and then you're pulling backside and then the
double teams at the at the defensive line level. Now
(35:17):
somebody is going to go off to another linebacker, and
and and so man and man, where you just see
an offensive lineman not try and uh double. That was
happening a lot. I mean, I'm like, well, that's inside
zone and then I'd watch it the second time. But
they're not zone blocking. The center's going straight to the
(35:38):
middle linebacker, so I think that they are barely even touching.
So I think that they they kind of said, hey,
we're not doing a good enough job blocking the second level.
Let's and and and that may be a comment that
we think that their defensive line is just not special
from an athletic standpoint, so we don't need to have
great defense. Uh, there's reasons why that you do this,
(35:59):
but it's something for me to keep my eye on.
I'll report have a better, more detailed report by Thursday
on our round table. But that that that's a little
bit of an adjustment that I need to delve into
on the tape study. But that definitely showed up on
numerous plays yesterday, more man blocking, which is very rare.
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
In our last minute, I did want to ask you,
I mean, you athlete here, you dub and have been
part of this radio station for better than a quarter century.
So I'm sure that you've had some encounters with Lenny Wilkins,
and I wanted to see if you had a minute
on Lenny for us here today.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, well, I think better, there's other people that'll be
better than normal. I've I've interviewed him. I went to
his Lenny Wilkins football camp when I was in middle
school ball camp. Yeah, like a five day like he
had a college dorm, like like it was legit over
five to six day overnight deal. So so Lenny Wilkins
(36:55):
had his basketball camp for kids, but this is a
testament to who he is. He wants to have a
broader outreach to impact more uh youngsters. And and so
so yeah, I went, I went. And you know, there
was part of us we mixed, you know, you know,
at night we'd all get together, you know, eat ice
cream sandwiches and listen to you know, watch skits or
listen to motivational speakers. But but other than that, we
(37:18):
were kind of separated. And and as an ask of that,
Dick Bard may have been the one who was running it.
We have to piece together the year. But but uh,
I digress. So I think that speaks to his commitment
to the community. And then and then secondly, I was
the biggest Sonic fan. Slept on the street to get
tickets during the NBA Championships, uh uh. And and you
(37:40):
know would go on the bus as a twelve year old,
I'd go on the bus, take you know, two or
three transfers to get downtown to watch the games because
they had a program with the Seattle Public schools to
give kids tickets for next to nothing. And and and
I will just say this, I saw one of the
younger calumnists to the top five most painful losses. Call
(38:02):
him great columnist. I'm not gonna call him out. You
know he's great, but he just hasn't been around long enough.
The very first Seattle professional playoff team a game was
the Sonics against the I think it was the Pistons,
but it was nineteen seventy five, so I was eleven
going on twelve. I have vivid memories of every single
playoff game in this history of Seattle sports, professional sports.
(38:28):
There is no kind of pain like losing Game seven
in nineteen seventy eight in that building. In nineteen and
that's the year that Lenny took over. They started five
and seventeen with Bob Hopkins. They went to the NBA Finals,
lost Game seven. I still remember. I didn't even have
to look it up on the internet. I know the
score was one on five ninety nine against the Bullets
(38:51):
in seventy eight. And here's the thing. They had Marvin Webster,
the human eraser. I think he went either traded or
free agency. He went to the Knicks, and we're thinking,
oh my gosh, what's Lenny gonna do. He just lost
the human. All anybody could talk about was the human eraser,
So he did, excuse me. He takes Jack Sigma, a
second year power forward, puts him at center for the
(39:13):
seventy nine team, runs an offense with Johnny Johnson as
like a point forward at the top of the key,
and had this beautiful offense that he was able to
adapt with the loss of Marvin Webster and win the
title in seventy nine, given Seattle its first title. Very
vivid memories and so hell of a coach, hell of
(39:35):
a gentleman, and you know, a citizen of the community.
So a lot of other people is going to give
better testimonials on a personal level. I didn't know him personally,
but I certainly saw the impact that he had on
us and sports fans and me as a as a
middle school football player.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Excellent, excellent stuff. All right, Hum Millan is with us.
We'll continue the conversation with Mike Holmger next. Sports Radio
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So you're telling me you Millen might have a thing
or three to say about this Seahawks football team.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Why they're playing right now? Is that what I'm to gather?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yep, yep, I've figured this out and out took me,
I don't know, almost nine years. But this guy definitely
has some things to say about football.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's got some opinions, though I hope he backs them up.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Mike Holmberan will be joining the conversation at nine o'clock.
But joining us now is our QB one the best
analyst in the business.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hugh Millan is with us. How are you, sir? What's happening? Gang?
Doing great? All right, doing good?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Another blowout victory to discuss, forty four to twenty two
over the Arizona Cardinals. They were up thirty five to
nothing with half of the second quarter remaining. Where does
the conversation start with Hugh Millan today?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, I just think, as you said, domination. I think
for a lot of people they look at the score
forty four to twenty two, you say, oh, well, the
Seahawks offense was lights out defense, and you know that's
they had only had one game prior to yesterday where
the opponent had scored twenty points or more. That was
of course Tampa Bay. But you know, when you look
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at first of all, the offense they score thirty, right,
not forty four, the defense and the defense they gave
up three touchdowns, one of them was at their own
three yard line after a turnover. Another one was at
their own nineteen following a turnover. They were able to
(02:18):
get out of another turnover at their own twenty four
from downs, Yes, there was an eighty four yarder. Okay,
we'll hang that on the defense. One touchdown in the
fourth quarter of a blowout. Sorry, maybe they weren't you know,
you know, the did some backups in and obviously they
weren't emotionally charged about that. So I think that the
score just doesn't indicate the level of dominance. But I think,
(02:41):
you know, just all phases, including the special teams. I
just think two straight weeks and it sets up just
an unbelievably compelling game for next week. But we won't
quite get to that, but yeah, that would. My thought
is how the score doesn't really reflect what the game showed.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You, right, and yet the game showed you a couple different,
like different sides of it. Obviously, you got whatever a
quarter and a half into it and you're up thirty
five to zero, and then like the third quarter was
very ugly, and so when you're deciphering it, is it
just more of all, right, I understand, you know, when
you're up like that, the idea of being super ultra focused,
(03:23):
maybe with ball security or.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Something like that. Then it can kind of wane.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Simply because you're looking at the scoreboard and really what
you're hoping for at that point is just getting to
the end of the game healthy.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I think it was an exercise in getting the
clock to double zero. I mean, I think it's you know,
if you're a quality football team, and certainly the defense.
I mean when Seattle went up twenty one and nothing,
I don't want to talk out of both sides of
my mouth. I said last week at the Commander game
that I thought, at twenty one nothing, the game's over.
You know, the same thing here a minute and twenty
three to go in the first quarter, you're up twenty
(03:55):
one and nothing. How's a good team going to lose
to a backup quarterback in that situation. I mean, you know,
you're talking less than a one percent chance that you're
gonna lose that game. But certainly, when you went up
thirty five to nothing with eight thirty three to go
in the second quarter, at that point, you had played
exactly thirty five point seven percent of a football game.
So so you you know, you still had sixty four
(04:17):
point three percent of a football game to play, and
so I think defensively, you you kind of lost some
of the intense. You know, intensity is the best ally
of a defender. Uh, so you don't have that clearly
from a scheme standpoint, Mike McDonald said, I'm not showing
(04:39):
anything more to the Rams. There's no point. You know,
all our gucci stuff, we we shot that in the
first quarter. We got our turnovers. Let's just play vanilla.
Let's stay healthy. Uh. You know you had twelve pass
attempts by by Sam Darnold yesterday in in Uh let
(05:00):
me let me find it. On October eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
the Jets beat the Bills forty five to fourteen, and
they had ten pass attempts. Remember that, nineteen seventy eight.
Since then, nineteen seventy nine, there have been eleven two
hundred and seventy six games. That's double that because there's
two teams in it. So two point three percent of
all games since nineteen seventy nine a team scores forty
(05:24):
four or more points. Okay, two point three percent of
the time there have been because there's five hundred and
eleven times where you got forty four points in none
of those games did you have as few as twelve
pass attempts. The last five hundred and eleven times going
back to nineteen seventy nine, that the NFL has had
(05:45):
forty four points or more by an offense, there have
always been more than twelve pass attempts. So it was
just it was just kind of a wonky wonky game.
You know, from an offensive standpoint, you you let off
the gas. You know, you're not you're not in a flow,
in a rhythm, you know, I think, I don't know,
maybe Jayden daniels injury was of top of mind, but
(06:08):
they just felt like, Okay, we're gonna turn this into
a nine on seven game. What does that mean? In practice?
When you go to the NFL, nine and seven is
the run period. It's the opposite of seven on seven.
It's it's nine players on one side, seven on the other.
You don't have the secondary just against the front seven
and it's an all running period, all runs. And so
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you just watched a nine on seven period for sixty
four point three percent of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, it's gonna skew the past run ratio numbers for
the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Hugh Mellan is with us ur QB one. We are
Monday morning quarterbacking.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, let's highlight that defense then, since that's where it started.
And man number one, have you ever seen twin plays
like that from a defense and a game? I mean
to have basically the exact same players creating the exact
same result two different times on the defensive side of
the ball, and then go first they're into telling me
why that happened, what took place that made that those
(07:06):
fantastic results occur.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, let me give it to you from the perspective
of of I'm a quarterback preparing for the Seahawks. Like, Okay,
Matthew Stafford's gonna be now, Matthew Stafford's a veteran for
the most better to Hannah. But the complexity of that
first one is just off the chain. Okay, So so
the Cardinals and the second one had some complexity, not
(07:28):
quite as much as the first, but I'll spend some
time on that first one. So the Cardinals they had
they were in a what I call queen right off,
said I. But the fullback in that situation was alignment. Okay,
so they were built to protect. But too, if I'm
I'm gonna get, say, from Joe Jacobe Prissette's perspective, outside
(07:52):
my left tackle, I've got three defenders. I've got DeMarcus Lawrence.
Then outside of him, I have Nick Aman Warry up
on the line of scrapers. And now side of him,
I got Kobe Bryant. So now to my right, I've
got I've got Chennan Nuoso. He's gonna drop off. He's
(08:12):
not gonna rush, he's gonna block off. Uh uh go
off into the flat. But the blitz off to my left,
you're gonna have Kobe Bryant's gonna eat up the left tackle.
Then you're gonna have Emon Worry. Then he's gonna come
in the B gap, and you have DeMarcus Lawrence. He
lines up on the five tech that's outside the tackle.
He's gonna loop all the way into the A gap
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and then for oh, by the way, while they're doing this,
the Seahawks they're playing they're not they're playing a zone blitz,
but they're clouding to one side, meaning they're they're putting
uh there to the side of the blizz. They're having
Witherspoon just play in the flat. He's got a safety
over the top, so he can jump anything that's in
(08:55):
the flat. He doesn't have deep responsibility, so that that's
unusual and that fact, and then now you've got on
top of that, Tyree Knight is what's called key dogging
or green dogging. So when he sees the running back
block on that side, this total overload to the left,
then now Tyree Knight, he's gonna blitz. He's gonna come in.
And by the way, in the process of this, they're
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gonna take that lineman who was he's got a sixty number.
He's in the backfield. He's gonna go over to the right,
and there's a point where you can stop the tape,
and the right guard, the right tackle, and that offensive
lineman who has started at the full back position. He
goes to the right. There's a point you can stop
the tape and three guys, three offensive linemen are blocking
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Leonard Williams over to Jacoby Brissett's right, Nuoso is dropping
off on that side. All the havoc is happening on
my left side. If I'm Jacoby Brissett, and you know,
Tyreese Knight comes unblocked. That is a lot of stuff
for an offense to to process. And then you know
(09:59):
you talk about playmaking. Uh, Tyra Knight has the presence
to just say, hey, I'm gonna get up my hand
up at exactly the right time, at exactly the right
spot and hit the ball. And you know that's just
you just be a playmaker. I mean you see guys,
when boxers, you know, and when when boxers are practicing boxing,
they have their trainer, they put those big mits on
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and they say, hit my hand, hit my hand right.
You know obviously it's to you know, hand eye coordination. Well,
Tyree's Knight right in that right in that moment with
all that thing happened, he he has to be able
to have that that sense of playmaking. Uh. And so
he creates the the the uh, the turnover and the
Marcus Lawrence just happens to be in the right spot.
Nice bounce, uh the other one the second touchdown. Seven
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guys line up to uh, Jacobe Brissett, I'm gonna I'm
gonna go first person. Okay, I got I got, I
got seven seahawks up on my line of screamage. To
my left, I got four guys to my to my right,
I got three. So now I'm gonna I'm gonna send
my center to the left to get the four. Oh crap.
The two of those guys just backed off. That was
(11:07):
was it Ocada and Drake Thomas. So two of those
guys who are online scream Jay back off to play
a zone three D three hunder zone. But now it's
an overload to the side, uh, to the right side.
And you have Tyreese Knight. He's he's his job is
to slam the my right guard and then allow for
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Lawrence to loop back in. But by in the process
of slamming the right guard, he gets inside leverage on
the right guard, which the right guard doesn't want to
give up. And now Knight is able to accelerate. Now
I'm gonna go back to third person. So now Knight
is able to accelerate and again the exact timing to
get his hand up. And playmakers, I mean you hear
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coaches talk all the time, Hey, we need playmakers. And
and Knight was able to make a plane play. But
the star of the show is Mike McDonald. Yeah. Period,
just designing these plays and the and how he teaches
the disguise and knowing it's It's like these guys got
why Mike McDonald spends ninety work hours a week working okay,
(12:12):
and the part of his passion is is like, I'm
gonna each week, I'm gonna break down your protection and
if you're in this format, personel group, I'm betting you're
going to be in this protection and I'm going to
attack that weakness. And so the nuance of him being
able to do it, that's where I think the showdown
is next Sunday. By the way, it's it's Mike McDonald
(12:33):
against Sean McVay. That's the freaking chess. That's where the
game not not only is it the chess matched in
my opinion, that's where the game lies. But but get
back to yesterday. I just think just well designed schemes
and and when you and you watch and you say,
you know what, Mike McDonald, you called up the right
blitz for that protection and happens over and over again,
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and and that's a lot of the reasons why you
see uh this, uh this kind of pressure. I mean
the Seahawks, depending on what cyber metrics you look at,
now one of them has has boy moth in the
top twelve and pass rust win rate. Another one PFF
hasn't no Seahawk in the top fifty two in terms
(13:15):
of I'm talking about edge presser guys. So depending on
who you want to trust, you know, there's put it
this way, there's no Miles Garrett right right on the team.
We can agree on that they're creating this all this
havoc by the scheme.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, well, I mean, okay, then going into that a
little bit, I mean, you, having played as long as
you did and prepared and watched the video, when somebody
like Mike McDonald comes up with something that's different than
you hadn't seen before, how rattled does that get you?
On the other side, Because I have to imagine that
you prepare for what you've seen and then obviously maybe
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you're doing something wrinkles that they haven't seen offensively. And
yet when they end up doing something that just completely
out of their norm, right, not usually rushing up the
middle or or bringing a blitzer up the middle, but
just all of that, how how much is that like,
oh my gosh, what the heck was that? Not just
how I was disguised, but just the simplicity of they
just don't do that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I wasn't expecting that at all. Yeah, I think on
Monday when you watch the tape, you kind of like,
I would be like, well, f me. And then you know,
more appropriately, I think, well, you know that's always problem,
or that's Apeman's problem, because I was going to be
wearing a ball cap. But for the most part, you know,
(14:36):
you kind of know you're gonna have to do. Now
I started a game against Buddy Ryan, and you know,
you watch the tape on Monday and you're like, are
you kidding me? This is gonna be a long damn week,
you know, because I'm gonna have to do extra time
to prepare for all this stuff. And you know, as
I said, I hope I was able to convey to
you the complexity of I mean, the second one, the
(14:58):
second toutdown was was you know, moderately high complex you know,
more than the average for sure. But the first one
was just like that, that was a masterpiece. And uh
and and you know the Cardinals couldn't deal with it.
I mean you had a veteran quarterback, Uh you know
that that that he couldn't deal with it, and and
so uh yeah, I think that it's it's just something
(15:22):
where you say, okay, it's not just well that was
that was tough. You know that McDonald does that different
each week, right, Like he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna
analyze your protection and he's gonna find your tendency, and
he's gonna find your weaknesses, and he's gonna know like
(15:43):
number thirty one for whoever thirty one is for for
h Cardinals camp pass block. So now you say, okay,
we're gonna overload him, make him go coast to coast.
It's almost he's gonna be a traffic home. I don't
know who's thirty one for. Yeah, so I should know that, right,
he's their number one back. But that's a relic of
my my playing days. You don't. You just see numbers.
(16:04):
You don't worry about names, right, you know who's fifty
six for the Giants? I don't know he's fifty six.
You know you better know that guy. I know he's
fifty six, and I know he's really fast and he's
really nasty. Like we don't we don't. We don't use
first and last name. We just use numbers, right, So,
so apologies to anybody in that regard, but but you know,
(16:24):
I'm just saying, uh, you know, I see see how
McDonald he he he, he finds where the weakness is
and it's really it's it's beautiful to watch. And you know,
so Mike McDonald he steps up in the post game,
and you know he's a humble guy and and and
he's you know, thinking about his players. He's got this
beautiful countenance about him. But you know he could be
(16:46):
if he if he was just by nature and irrogant
human being, he could just get up there with a
cigar and go do you realize how badass I am?
That could be his his press conference? Okay? You know,
like like do you people do I need to do?
I need to give a lesson up here for you,
just like how freaking awesome I am? You know, but John, John, John,
(17:07):
get up here, tell them how awesome I am. Exactly right.
It's fun, man, It's it's fun. I mean, you took
a team that Arizona. Think about this, and and and
you mentioned John Snader. I want to mention this. I
think for years I did these Monday shows and I
and I said, I lauded Pete Carroll for you know
(17:29):
what that team is just they're they're never an emotional
no show. Think of what Seattle and and Arizona had.
They both had dominant wins on National TV. Seattle on Sunday,
they had to fly the coast, you know, Arizona at
Dallas and you know, Dak Prescott say what you want
(17:49):
that guy? That guy's lights out in that stadium. So
they both had incredible victories. And it's just we said,
who can't handle success? Well, the Cardinals were flat as
hell and the Seahawks were just absolutely just super charged
and so emotionally. You know, for years, I frequently credit
(18:10):
Pete Carroll, you know, and and Carol deserves credit. But
I think that there's something about Schnyder and how he
identifies guys that have a chip on the show only
digs deep. Oh you were a high school wrestling champion. Hm,
that secks a box for me, you know, like he's
always looking, Oh you got you know you're you came
from a broken family at four stepdads and the third
(18:31):
of your stepdads used to beat the hell out of him. Okay,
all right, you know, like he's he's always looking for
somebody who's got a chip. And and so I think
that well, I don't retract any of the statements I
made about Carol. I think I think now we see
it with McDonald and that was a beautiful performance of
freaking all gas, no breaks. That was a team that
(18:53):
was just way more ready to play emotionally. Now you
can say they had more to play for it, but yeah, Arizona,
you know, like they're still in the playoff contention going
to that game at three and five, and maybe they
think they've got their quarterback blah blah blah, and they're
just it was. It was a no contest from an
emotional standpoint. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 5 (19:56):
The fake to walker who offers a block, they won't go.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
And do all looking inside the parts, stuffing shit by
what's a track? What a touch forty three on touchdowns track?
Working on Tompson.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Kevin Arlan CBS on the call the first touchdown of
the game right there, the long pass from Sam Darnold,
the JS and the most magical pass catch combination all
of the National Football League right now. It started the
day a route Seattle forty four, Arizona twenty two.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We're here to.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Analyze it for you on Monday morning. Quarterback Mike Homern
will join us at nine o'clock. Hugh Millan is with
us right now, and you know here we talked about
the defense in our first segment. But the only negative
that I saw from yesterday I'm not worried about like careless,
sloppy play when you're up thirty five so much and
I'm not, And it then sound like the injuries are
(20:52):
going to be all that debilitating. What crossed my mind
was Clint Kubiak head coaching rumors are going to start.
Because if I'm the Buffalo Low Bills and I got
shut out by the Miami Dolphins for three quarters and
I'm watching what's happening here in Seattle, the guy that's
turned Sam Darnald into Joe Montana in nine weeks, Yeah,
that's somebody I'm going to be interested in. And I
(21:14):
want to start with just specifically like play action with you,
because I don't keep like perfect notes, but I have
on play action passes of his twelve five for six
eighty seven yards, four first downs and a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's like magical.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It feels like it's automatic whenever this team goes play
action Donald to JS in particular.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, and it's hard because when he's under center. That
touchdown that we just played, that was under center, So
you have to turn your back to the defense, so
you get a picture of what you think the secondary
is going to be, and then you have to turn
and process and say, Okay, is it what I thought
it was going to be or is it something different?
(21:58):
And so in that case that you mentioned, Clint Kubiak,
all the d to see the precisions in the details
you can say, hang a left at the buick when
you're out. You know, when you're in like third grade,
playing touch football in the street right, But where where
you really distinguish yourself is in the little nuances and
(22:19):
on that play balls on the right, Halse, you're gonna
go with the right handed quarterback and you're gonna go
play action. As you said, we're gonna fake this stretch
to the right. Now, right handed quarterback going to his left.
You got to get a great block from us what's
called a slice bock coming from the tight end on
the backside. But that the alignment, you had a relative
(22:40):
cut split by the receiver. So Jsen is to the left,
but he's well inside the numbers, three four yards inside
the numbers. Agetting balls on the right half. So the corner,
that's what's called inside the divider, and so that means
the corner is gonna play outside technique based on the split.
And then you've got Rashi Shahid. He's in a tighter
split and he's inside the divider. So you got both
(23:03):
corners playing to the outside. Now what Jasn does is
he's gonna he's gonna do do a slight seam release,
he's gonna come inside to give him enough space. Now
the corner's thinking, well, you're trying to buy space to
run what's called the sail route, the intermediate out route.
And and so Jaysn does that, and he sells. He
(23:23):
sells the sail route. But because of the divider and
the splits, as I just described, jays On is on
his out and up. He's not gonna go outside of
the defender. He's gonna start to break outside, but he's
he's so inside leveraged that he can break inside of
the corner. Now he goes up the sideline, and let's
go back to Darnald. Darnald never sets his feet. His
(23:46):
momentum is taking to the sideline. That that that degree
of difficulty, the accuracy that he had was just insane.
Now if you're if you're like nitpicking down to the inch,
it was a few inches under under thrown, underthrown. So
here's the part about JSN. He has got so many
elite traits. And one of his elite traits is ball tracking.
(24:10):
And you guys know from baseball, you know how outfielder's
a big part of who can get run down a ball.
It's the angle you take and how quick do you
pick up the flight of the ball. I know where
that ball is gonna be way at its apex. And
some receivers don't have that gift. Some receivers it's like
the ball's gotta be four feet from him before they
(24:30):
know where it's gonna land. They just don't ball. And
so JSN knows it's slightly underthrown. So what does he do.
He continues to widen on the corner who had outside leverage,
and he starts to slow down, and he's acting he's
looking back to the ball, but he's acting like his
arms he's gonna go to but he puts his arms
out like like a spread your arms out as willy
(24:52):
as you can. He's literally shielding the defender, having a
sense that the ball is gonna be slightly underthrown. But
he's taking his body and he's widening, widening, widening to
make the defender go through his body. And and so
then he's and then he's able to close and buy
uh that that ball placement. Uh, you're just being able
(25:13):
to beat the free safety. He's coming over. He's got
the concentration and he is a freaking closer closer. I mean,
think of a guy on a fast break. You know,
it's all well and good if you can jump in sky,
but you got to get the ball in the hoop right, Like,
all these things don't matter unless you can close with
guys draped all around you and grabbing at you and
(25:34):
coming to hear his closing. Oh my god, if he
was a salesman, he would, he would, he'd He's sell
like four hundred and fifty Mercedes every month.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
This guy has always always he's closing.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And and and so uh and and then you know,
received heat from his split cut. He sprints over to
occupy Buddha Bakers. So just to clarify Buddha Baker, he
you know, he he sees him. So Sam Donald knows
in that coverage that quarters look that the safety could
turn and double to that side. But but but by
(26:13):
having that formation as you have it, and you say, well,
she hates sprint over to Buddha Baker and stop in
front of him, Well, that allows the defense to declare itself.
For Sam Donald, who as we said, has turn his
back to the defense. All of this stuff has to mesh.
All of these details are important. There's not one thing
that I said in this description that is not important
(26:34):
to the touchdown. And so it's that the precision is
in the details. So it's not just like, hey, let's
just just you know, put a guy up. We don't care,
you know. Does he take an inside stem? That doesn't matter.
Where does he line up? Is he three yards inside
the numbers? Or are one yard inside the number? That
doesn't matter, But the lineup where you want? Like nothing,
(26:55):
All of this stuff is precisely calcul related to get
a beautiful touchdown like that.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I wanted to dive into the run game. We don't
have enough time to get all of that. So I'm
just ask this real quick, Sundell. The center went down,
Timmy came in, big drop off, similar saying, good, what's
your great on him?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
All right, Sindell, let's very quick. Sindell is a a
great athlete, now, not great athlete by you know, NBA
two guard standpoint, great athlete by centers. If there was
a like a super you guys remember you guys old
enough to remember superstars competition, you know, made for TV deals.
Mark Okay, Jason Sandel against all the NFL centers, He's
(27:39):
gonna win the obstacle course. If if it if it's
like part speed and part agility. Jason Sandel is gonna
win the obstacle course, but the keg toss over the
top of the the pule vault ball, he's gonna lose that.
He's he is, he is the he's got great like
like like that first sweep in the the like the
fourth play of the game when they did the toss
(28:01):
sweep to Rashichi heat. Watch Jason Sindell pull outside. There's
a poor part where he bursts out by the left sideline.
This is a center out. It looks like a freaking
tight end. There's a burst to his There's another screenplay
over to the right side on a on a smoke screen.
He's trying to get up on a safety his burst
like it looks like a tight end. He has got
(28:22):
some feet. Now power power is a problem for him,
but uh uh, you know, but he's smart. He's playing
alongside his buddy from South Dakota State. They work well
in tandem. So yeah, it's a problem. He's he's turned
into a pretty damn good center. Uh if you just
ignore that, he's got some power deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
So he's more like Tom Selleck than Alex Carris. Taking
it back to your Battle of the Network stars, Kamaris.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, I can remember. Yeah, he was obstacle court.
The Detroit Tigers baseball cap was flying off his hand. Yeah,
I remember that vividly.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Remember how Jamal Adams played lot like Heather Thomas. All right,
just for one minute, because I want to get this
in in this segment, sha Heed his use, give me
a one minute breakdown on what you got to see
from the newcomer.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well, they got him the balls and running back. It's fine.
I put this way. His speed definitely showed and and
you see defenders turned out of their back pedal and
having declared now rasia. Now I'm going to be a
lot more serious than I'm gonna sound. Those those highlighter
green shoes you wore, keep keep wearing those. It's from
(29:35):
a style standpoint, it looks good on you, okay. But
also you look fast, dude, You look fast, and you
are influencing guys to get the hell out of their
back pedal, which declares the the coverage better for the quarterback.
So his speed is a jolt. Now his feet are
moving so damn fast. Uh And and even looks faster
(29:57):
with those shoes. He's shorter, so you know, I have
to you know, have to caution. But his feet are
just like a road runner. And so yeah, yeah, there's
times he runs a shallow cross early on boom he
just gets like, whoa that dude? Who is that guy?
He got there really fast. He's running clearouts. And as
I said, as a quarterback, you when you see a
(30:19):
defensive back in the backpedal, you're kind of like, well,
is any position to drive top down on an intermediate cut?
But if we can get him out of his back
pedal and turning and running for the deep, now I
know I can throw that intermediate cut and that little
bit of extra speed can cause that. And you can
literally see it on a tape from yesterday. All right,
(30:41):
Hugh Mellan is with us QB one.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
We are Monday morning quarterbacking here on this day forty
four to twenty two when over the Arizona Cardinals yesterday.
More from Hugh next on Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
This will be a thirty four yard drive thirty two
for two today and that is the record.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Center.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
There's your all time field goal mat kicker. And Seahawk history.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Kevin Harland on the call yesterday, I wanted to bring
that up a part of these special teams day. Meyers
three for three field goals, five for five extra points
to a perfect day. He also made history by becoming
the all time field goal kicking leader in Seahawks history.
And that's a pretty good list of kickers over time.
Hugh Millan is with us. Mike Homer join us at
(31:32):
nine o'clock. I also like that Rashid sha heat his
first game as a Seahawk, he returns to kick, he
touches the ball. The first guy to touch a ball
in his first game is a Seahawk. But Hewet, I
wanted to ask you about special teams. Wise man, you
know you're clicking when you get a big hit on
special teams every single every single time, and coverage, and
(31:53):
so I wanted to just ask you about the special
teams overall and what your take on it was.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, I think this is going to be interesting for
Seahawk fans. I found it interesting. It was in my
notes to talk about on a round table. I didn't
get to it. It was on my notes to talk to
you on Friday. Didn't get to it. Softy didn't get
to it. So in my studies, there's a new statistic
coming out, expected points Added. And basically what it does
(32:23):
it takes a big database of all the NFL plays
and it says, based on the down and distance, field position,
et cetera, opponent, what are your expected points on that possession?
For example? And I've I've ran the correlation stats on
Microsoft Excel. They they play out very favorably, so it's
(32:47):
a legit deal. Like for example, remember the Cooper cup
Cats in sixty seven yards that was like five point
six expected points added because it was third down, which
had it been on first down, would have been less.
It would have been less because I'm third down, You're
more likely to have to punt, right, So all of
those factors play in and and so expected points average added.
(33:11):
I look at it more on offense and defense. But
what I stumbled on in my preparation was the that
the team that is number one in the NFL in
what the NFL has in their stat portal Special Teams
EPA per game Seattle Seahawks number one in the NFL,
So EPA. I study it more from offense and defense.
(33:34):
I don't reference it often because a lot of fans
are like, it seems like a hard stat to grasp.
But again, if all you got was this number one,
it's a new stat. Number two it correlates to winning.
I've run the numbers. And number three, the Seattle Seahawks
special teams are number one in that stat. That's all
you need to know.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Wright Man, Well, I mean we don't. I'm I was
going to get into the run game. I mean, I
just I am curious. They end up running the ball
for two hundred yards before the kneel downs, and and
yet that also they ran it fifty times because of
the score. Did you like what you saw out of
the run game?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, I think it's so hard to gauge when when
your opponent knows you're running. So whether it was good
or whether it was bad, it just it's not normal football,
you know. Again, Yeah, sixty four percent of that game
was not a football game. It was just an exercise
in getting the clock to double zero. So so, but
I will say schematically, one thing that I did notice
(34:36):
is is there was more. Now, the NFL doesn't play
a lot of man schemes. Okay, you're you're trying to
get double teams at the defensive line layer, whether it's
zone blocking or two guys are coming off, you're hitting
the defensive tackle. The center and the guard are hitting
the defensive tackle. They're trying to get movement, and then
one of them is going to go off to the
(34:56):
linebacker at the second level, and that's determined by the run,
which way the defense flows, and what have you. And
and and it's kind of dynamic in that sense of
how now it's read uh gap scheme where you're blocking
down at the point of attack, you're trying to get
double teams, and then you're pulling backside and then the
double teams at the at the defensive line level. Now
(35:17):
somebody is going to go off to another linebacker, and
and and so man and man, where you just see
an offensive lineman not try and uh double. That was
happening a lot. I mean, I'm like, well, that's inside
zone and then I'd watch it the second time. But
they're not zone blocking. The center's going straight to the
(35:38):
middle linebacker, so I think that they are barely even touching.
So I think that they they kind of said, hey,
we're not doing a good enough job blocking the second level.
Let's and and and that may be a comment that
we think that their defensive line is just not special
from an athletic standpoint, so we don't need to have
great defense. Uh, there's reasons why that you do this,
(35:59):
but it's something for me to keep my eye on.
I'll report have a better, more detailed report by Thursday
on our round table. But that that that's a little
bit of an adjustment that I need to delve into
on the tape study. But that definitely showed up on
numerous plays yesterday, more man blocking, which is very rare.
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
In our last minute, I did want to ask you,
I mean, you athlete here, you dub and have been
part of this radio station for better than a quarter century.
So I'm sure that you've had some encounters with Lenny Wilkins,
and I wanted to see if you had a minute
on Lenny for us here today.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, well, I think better, there's other people that'll be
better than normal. I've I've interviewed him. I went to
his Lenny Wilkins football camp when I was in middle
school ball camp. Yeah, like a five day like he
had a college dorm, like like it was legit over
five to six day overnight deal. So so Lenny Wilkins
(36:55):
had his basketball camp for kids, but this is a
testament to who he is. He wants to have a
broader outreach to impact more uh youngsters. And and so
so yeah, I went, I went. And you know, there
was part of us we mixed, you know, you know,
at night we'd all get together, you know, eat ice
cream sandwiches and listen to you know, watch skits or
listen to motivational speakers. But but other than that, we
(37:18):
were kind of separated. And and as an ask of that,
Dick Bard may have been the one who was running it.
We have to piece together the year. But but uh,
I digress. So I think that speaks to his commitment
to the community. And then and then secondly, I was
the biggest Sonic fan. Slept on the street to get
tickets during the NBA Championships, uh uh. And and you
(37:40):
know would go on the bus as a twelve year old,
I'd go on the bus, take you know, two or
three transfers to get downtown to watch the games because
they had a program with the Seattle Public schools to
give kids tickets for next to nothing. And and and
I will just say this, I saw one of the
younger calumnists to the top five most painful losses. Call
(38:02):
him great columnist. I'm not gonna call him out. You
know he's great, but he just hasn't been around long enough.
The very first Seattle professional playoff team a game was
the Sonics against the I think it was the Pistons,
but it was nineteen seventy five, so I was eleven
going on twelve. I have vivid memories of every single
playoff game in this history of Seattle sports, professional sports.
(38:28):
There is no kind of pain like losing Game seven
in nineteen seventy eight in that building. In nineteen and
that's the year that Lenny took over. They started five
and seventeen with Bob Hopkins. They went to the NBA Finals,
lost Game seven. I still remember. I didn't even have
to look it up on the internet. I know the
score was one on five ninety nine against the Bullets
(38:51):
in seventy eight. And here's the thing. They had Marvin Webster,
the human eraser. I think he went either traded or
free agency. He went to the Knicks, and we're thinking,
oh my gosh, what's Lenny gonna do. He just lost
the human. All anybody could talk about was the human eraser,
So he did, excuse me. He takes Jack Sigma, a
second year power forward, puts him at center for the
(39:13):
seventy nine team, runs an offense with Johnny Johnson as
like a point forward at the top of the key,
and had this beautiful offense that he was able to
adapt with the loss of Marvin Webster and win the
title in seventy nine, given Seattle its first title. Very
vivid memories and so hell of a coach, hell of
(39:35):
a gentleman, and you know, a citizen of the community.
So a lot of other people is going to give
better testimonials on a personal level. I didn't know him personally,
but I certainly saw the impact that he had on
us and sports fans and me as a as a
middle school football player.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Excellent, excellent stuff. All right, Hum Millan is with us.
We'll continue the conversation with Mike Holmger next. Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM.
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