November 11, 2025 • 36 mins
GENE STERATORE (CBS Rules Analyst) Our weekly visits with Gene are one of our favorites and this week we had him on the Seahawks game, so we have a couple questions for him from that blowout win! Are prop bets becoming a big problem? We get Gene’s thoughts. How much of a responsibility do refs have in concussion management? :30- EVERETT FITZHUGH (KAN PxP) Everett makes his weekly visit and we start off with the exciting Saturday night victory. Of course, we can’t talk about Saturday’s win without then talking about Sunday’s loss. The Kraken are now 0-14 in the 2nd game of back-to-back games, but was Sunday’s loss better than most? Injury updates and more! :45- Jedd Fisch has been linked to a few coaching openings, but is it fair to put him those lists if what he’s saying about being at UW is true?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Our ads have thrown off my big plan. I was
going to just have a BMW with a big red
bow on it sitting outside Jean's house for Christmas this year.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Ash, that didn't think you wanted I thought I wanted
to be a secret.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I was going to try to keep that a secret.
Now it's out, so Gene act surprised.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'll pretend that I'm shutting my eyes. I'm closing my
ears right now, Chuck, I have no idea what you're
talking about. Good morning to you, Good morning, good morning everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
A great to have you with us. I want to
bring up something that we were just talking about, like
a couple of gambling scandals recently. And I know that
we I didn't warn you that where I was going
to bring this up, but I just want I would
imagine getting having gotten to know Gene Sterritor. There is
nothing in the world that would bother you more than
just anyone, even a rowdy fan, suggesting that you weren't
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acting with integrity on the field with your calls and
that you were on the take. How much does it
bother you to hear that, not just about yourself, but
about all of your fellow officials. Is there anything in
the world that bothers you more than that accusation?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
No, probably not to be really serious about it, Chuck,
You know, I mean, unfortunately, there have been situations. There
was a very large one with an official actually in
the NBA while I was actively officiating in the NFL.
You know it is it is exactly what you just said. Yeah,
I do love these games. I'd love doing what I did.
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I love the passion of sports. The integrity of the
game is really what I love the most. And that's why,
you know, I volunteered to assume the roles that I
was fortunate enough to have, because officiating is that projection
of integrity and keeping the game there that and then
when we have these blips and these human weaknesses or
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whatever these situations create. Now where the conspiracy theorists have
a precedent to say, see, I told you so, the
game suffers. And if it's a player, if it's an official,
if it's a coach, it really doesn't matter, right, I mean,
once those spots take place, you've skilled the beast to
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say all of these crazy things that are said because
of a couple of bad apples, right, and they're they're serious.
And look at the officiating world NCAA. When I worked
in college basketball, we had a you know, a very
large segment of our regional clinic was about gambling, was
about being approached or who to speak to or what
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you think, maybe just a normal conversation about, Hey, I
saw you were at such and such place last night
and so and so it looked like he was limping
a little bit. Did you you know that? You know,
you would think that would be kind of normal airport? Right, Wait,
waiting for a playing conversation, It's not right. So you
do live in that world and you have to be
aware of it. And the National Football League naturally is
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very adamant about all of those types of things. When
I actively officiated in the NFL, you were not permitted
in a casino period full stop. That's it, and never
in a sports book, even in the off season because
of that, and you wear that as a badge of honors.
So yes, it hurts. It hurts the games, It hurts
all of what we do. And you know, Chuck, I
do listen to you guys, not just on Tuesdays, you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Know, but but but.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Through the week. And what you had just said earlier
was right. The prop betting is it seems to me
would be more inviting, right to that person that may
not want to throw a game, you know, because of
his feel for the team and all the other things, right,
you know what I mean, Hey, what if I just
throw ball three or ball one here? I can make
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that back up. It's not a big deal. So it's
opened up a window to maybe convince yourself that I'm
really not infecting the integrity of the game. Yeah, I'm
just playing with it a little bit. But I can
overcome that, you know. And I think we're in a
in a very delicate spot as a result of it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I just I just don't like the idea that
you've got a buddy that at some point in the
middle of the game, I'll blow two free throws I'll
give you a wink. When you've got the bed in,
you'll put your hat in your lap. I mean, that
just is too dangerous. And you're right. I mean maybe
that's another element that you brought up that if you
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think that I won't throw this from my teammates, but
no one will notice if I just make a little
money on the side. I think that's a phenomenal point.
All right, Well, let's get into some of the things
that happened over the weekend. We had a couple of
things in the Seahawks games that you were actually on
the broadcast for so enjoyed hearing you on our Seahawks
broadcast this past weekend against the Cardinals. Uh sorry, not sorry.
(05:08):
We didn't give you a more competitive game to monitor
their gene.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
You know, though, it's good fun. The team, guys, I'm
gonna be honest with you, man, it's the team is
really a good, solid football team. And I know what
the energy of the stadium brings when you're in that stadium,
and what the fan base really does do. And I
do think there's a couple of points there here or there,
not for any gambling purposes, but just just because of
the magnitude of the twelfth person and watching how they're executed,
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how they're playing is a special thing, you know. And
you're up weeks every one, so that's a long season.
But what a great football team.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, well they were back to back. They weren't back
to back plays, but we had twin plays that resulted
in a sack, fumble, touchdown. Ty Reese Knight got both
the sax and force fumbles. DeMarcus Lawrence got both the
fumble return and the touchdowns. Number one, have you ever
seen that, ever seen two plays that's similar from a
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defense in a game? And then number two, you were
on the call. How close were either one of those
from being overturned?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Close? And I think those plays and I do think
replay And again I can harken back because I am
that long in the tooth when we did not have replay.
So when you were on the field, you were the
only person going to rule whether the player was down
or whether it was a fumble. And we used to
have the phrase like you have to sell the call
right because it was so close and you wanted to
get it right. And I do think that replay has
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allowed those plays or officials to feel comfortable that my gosh,
that's just so close. Just let it play right, And
then we do look and yeah, they're close plays. They're
really framed by frame plays about possession or loss of
and down by contact you and we're leaving those plays alone.
Sometimes we leave someones that are a little too easy
to kind of stop, and we don't. But I do
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think replace helped that. And to answer the first part
of it, I've never seen one player create the fumble
the other scoop and score and then to have it repeated.
And you know, the chat GPT I think is even
confused by the question because I was we were talking
about it in the studio like, don't I don't recall
that ever happening, you know, So a couple of one
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offs there, which is kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, there was another thing in the Seattle game where
Jackson Smith and Jigbo was concussed and he had came
out and yet hadn't gone through like the concussion protocol
and the game was stopped and then all of a
sudden he tried to go back in there like, no,
you got to go through the protocol.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
What is there?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Something is that on you guys? Or is there a
specific concussion guy on the sidelines. How are you guys
supposed to make sure they go through whatever it is
they're supposed to follow through with.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, there's multiple layers, Buck, and it's a great question.
If my memory serves me correctly, I do believe that
one of the players after the initial play there was
a start, if I remember correctly, they took a defensive
player out for that, and I believe that those people. So,
just to give you a little background, yes, officials are
asked that if they feel or they see something or
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look at a player's helmet after a hit. A lot
of times it may not be the hit. It may
be the head hitting off the turf, but it's the proximity.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Of you being there.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And you know, I'm not a doctor, but if you
feel like that player looks woozy or just stumbling something
of that effect, something that would be rather noticeable, right,
and you're there to stop the game, and he's going
to be removed and checked and in this case the
defensive back that is stopt. They have what they call
an ATC spot er. I forget what the letters are
(08:44):
forgive me for that right at the moment, but there
is an individual in the stadium upstairs, rewinding the plays,
looking at the plays, looking on the field, and if
they happen to see something like that head hit in
a delayed reaction or a player stumbling after that that
wasn't caught, they wired downright to the officials on the
field immediately stopped the game. Stop the game, they'll identify
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the player, and then that players removed. I know that
happened with the defensive back. The Smith and Gibber situation is,
I don't know that he played the next play, but
then he came back onto the field, if I recall correctly,
and then I think the ATEC spot I recognized he
was back on the field, and it may have been
them and looking at the first player the defensive player
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situation that they also were looking at that play and thought,
looks like Smith and Jigger got a pretty good hit
there as well. And again I am speculating here, but
I'm assuming that's what may have occurred, and they have
stopped it and asked him to take a walk into
the tent and go through the protocol as well.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, does the ATC, which I think is Alcohol, Tobacco
and Concussions Agency, do they follow, well, did they follow
JSN up and down the sin of since that is
their job, do they make sure they go through the protocol?
I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, that's not thorough enough.
And then they alert the official is that they also
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monitor them once they're off the field, I guess is
the question?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Well, I think in this case, Chuck, he kind of
removed himself right, either strategy wise or it was just
a substitution that took place after a big play. I
don't know that he was examined at that point. I
know he wasn't officially examined because he had not entered
that tent and then had that private moment with the
doctor's trainers or whomever is inside there. So my assumption
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isn't And really maybe they were looking at the sideline
and seeing him on that sideline and then tying that
I don't know whatever he was doing over there with
that play, and felt like, you know what, we're always
airing on the side of safety when it comes to
these rightly, so, so that may have been going through
their mind or maybe part of the observation prior to
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stopping him.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Jane's Territorius with Us a segment that brought to you
by BMW Seattle every single week. Let's talk about taunting.
Were you a two pump guy? Did you subscribe? I
don't know if you know the connection with Ricodowdell and
the Key and Peel Ski, but it's popped up in
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the National Football League and that officials only allow one
pump with the hips. Were you a one pump or
a two pump official?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, Chuck, I mean again, I'll plug myself in Paramount
Plus and CBS and everybody right now. But we have
a show now that streams on Paramount Plus and YouTube TV,
NFL Pregame or NFL Today Pregame, Paramount Plus. It's a
great show with Matt Ryan, Amanda, Kyle Long, Antonio Pierce.
(11:46):
They do a great show. And I actually went on
the show this week because it is a streaming show
Pregamer on ten a m Eastern, and we talked about
the pumpgate, yeah, and what is allowed and look, I
had full transparency and if no, I was going to
tick on, we need to clicks on the stream, so
I'm plugging. But we went back into the history of
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what could have been the beginnings of this and believe
it or not Aaron Rodgers pulled a like a little
mini what would be the key and peel third pump
kind of movement if you've watched the skit in twenty twenty.
And then we had a digs that pulled it off
I think in week eight, which kind of caught like,
oh is that? What is that one? And then we
have moved forward as you you know, so aptly described,
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and now we had to choreograph full key and peel
skin and I thought it was great when they interviewed
the player and he really thought the key and peels
ruling was like the NFL ruling, like oh no, no,
you're allowed to you know, just not three. So yeah,
but it does, you know, go back to the no
fun leg It falls.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
In the sexual gesture category and we can't even have
a pump here, guys.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You don't even have luck, but.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You're not allowed any pumping at all. And look when
you got an older guy with a bad back that
if he had the pump three times like that, what
I don't know if I can get three in and
two if I had, you want to throw my back out?
I got to call something on you that I'm jealous,
you know, So but yeah, I thought it was enjoyable
to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Do you think they're do you think right now?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I know that they created a you know, the idea of, hey,
let's kind of get some of the taunting out of it.
You know, there's there's a you'll see it bount once
a week. It feels like somebody will do something in
a flaggerstone. Do you feel like it's working. They're trying
to get some of the taunting and increase the sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It is Buck, and it's of an evolving scenario because
the generations just continue to get more creative, and you know,
like it or not, there's generational gaps. Some things that
are hot and new in the twenty year old world
a fifty five year old person may not be aware of, right,
But no, there's there's a constant movement through that and
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it's the dance that we don't want to be the
no fun like there is entertainment now more with this,
they have become more flexible than when I started. But
then there's also a platform and the respect of not
of all the viewers and the demographics of the viewers
that are watching. So sexual gestures, weapon things, brandishing, all
these things that have come about with his creativity of
the players and what's hot and new in their world.
(14:17):
You've got to constantly evolve with that and try to
work in that balance where yes, this is entertaining, but no,
this is not a message we want to send to
the next generation. So it is it is NonStop evolving, right,
And I think this is a good case of that.
This is a real good example of that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Why why was Bradley Chubb flagged? I mean it made
Miami Dolphins fans pretty angry in the Bills game. That
didn't look very harmful at all. He was just kind
of walking away from a guy that he sacked and
did a little silly dance and got flagged. Was that
taking it too far? Or was that, in your opinion
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aggressive on Chubb's part.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I think that's where we get into, you know, things
not black and white, and what subjectivity is and what
did you interpret by the uh the crawling over top
of the individual after the tackle and the proximity of
the body part store on another body part, and and
I think that's what I'm assuming that that's what they
that's what they interpreted there. Yeah, And I think in
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the book it does say by the letter of the law.
After taking a player down, you roll off of them
because they don't want the players standing over top of
the opponents. Things of that nature. To me, yeah, it
happens quick. I've seen a lot of players that go
into the command or crawl right after they make a
big hit without bodies underneath of them. They flagged it.
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And I think, if I'm really you know, reughing that
game and I see it, it happened so quickly, I
may have a quick conversation with the individual and no,
it's and preface it with I know you didn't mean
to do that or have it look like that, but
it could have looked like that, So let's try to
stay away from that move. But that's my guess again,
and I, you know, some of that speculat.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You know what, I think I saw an edited version
somebody that tried to control the narrative because it looked
to me I only saw the part where he was
sort of dancing away from him. I didn't even see
the part where he was crawling over the top of him.
So yeah, now now it makes a little more sense.
It probably just was a delayed flag. In that situation,
you weren't happening to be on the Seahawks Super Bowl
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when Doug Baldwin did his silly thing in the end.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No, I missed that one was I was not part
of that. I was part of some of Marshawn's looks
of adjusting himself as he got to the one yard
line and would turn back to look at the field though.
So that was another creative play that started to happen, right,
I mean if we look back in history, so.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, how did you I don't recall how you handled that?
How did you handle that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh? What's the fifteen yard flag?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think that seems appropriate.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Probably chuckle during commercial because you're a human. You know,
you don't have to be you know, this old crotchety
guy all the time I made it's a foul, and
then maybe we laughed when the cameras are.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
All right, Well, great stuff today. Thanks for zigging and
zagging with me through these topics today. Appreciate you, and
we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Thanks guys, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All right. Jean staretur CBS Rules Analyst's Greatest Official and
NFL History, joining us every single week right here on
Chuck and Buck. Thanks to BMW Seattle. Looking for a
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ninety near the stadium. Appreciate Gene. He even was able
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to roll with us on the Hinkel mccrinkleberry two pumps.
I think Michael Bennett brought that back for a little
while there as well, and he was doing that celebration
dance after his sex. I think he got flagged for it,
if I remember correctly, But I didn't realize no pumps
was the rule. You can't do one pump, forget two pumps.
It's zero pump.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
They let him do like quarter pumps, maybe even half pumps,
quarter pumps maybe like uh well, no, don't don't do it.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Dalle was funny because he didn't pump at all. So
he gathered everybody around and he did the hinkle mccrinkleberry
stance in the in the end zone. Everybody was looking
at him, and then he just ran off the field.
All right, Everett fits, you will join us here on
the other side. That's worthy. You know, a couple couple
pumps right there. Pumps. So we'll talk to the voice
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next on kJ R. Here's Montour left side activates down
the wall.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Montour back man shot toward the goal, everly swatted it
ve Seattle back to the line.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Here's Stevens has said Turler. Steven said, point five left
in the third Seattle tie the game three wait and
period number three.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh Iver fits you on the call. Saturday's unbelievable come
from behind win for the Krack, And we'll get into
it here in a moment with the voice himself Crack
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that call, Everett fits You, is with us. How unbelievable
was that finish?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
You know what I think for where that game started
to where that game ended. I mean typically after a
game like that, you're start like that, you're hoping, I
hope they can hold on. Excuse me, I hope they
can find some kind of solace. But for them, the
battle back in the way that they did that was
a hard lot earned win. I mean, they they put
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they put a couple of really bad mistakes behind them from.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That second period.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
They got back to their game, they got back to
what made them successful, and they were able to eek
out two points.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You've never called a goal with point five seconds left
in I.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Honestly, I can honestly say, I'm pretty confident. I don't
think I have. I've called a game with five seconds left.
I've called the game, you know, obviously in the final minute,
but with point five seconds, yeah, left on the clock.
I mean, that was that was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Their last second shots in basketball. But then again, there's
not a guy standing in front of the goal. I
mean there are walkoff homers in baseball, but there's no clock.
I mean, for the only thing better if it had
been tied and he did that, it was a walk off,
skate off goal, yeah, with point five seconds. But that's
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in saying. To get that in there, I.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Will say when I was in college, one of my
one of my only ever basketball games that broadcasted, I
forget who who Bowling Green was playing, but I had
a buzzer beater and it sounded like Gus Johnson at
the Indiana Penn State game over the weekend. You know, oh,
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I was, I was a falsetto. I was streaming.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I was a.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Nineteen year old sophomore.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Losing my ever loving mind. I have no idea what
I even said.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
That. That's probably about it. My my best Gus Johnson
when I was and I was in college. That's as
close as I've ever come.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Unfortunately, Fits they couldn't follow that up the next night
when they when they went to Dallas, and and yet
it's still good game, competitive game. To me, it feels
like they're better. I don't know what the win loss
record is on uh, you know, back to back nights.
I know that last year. In the last couple of years,
they haven't had a very good record when it comes out,
but they look like they're more competitive even if they're playing,
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you know, the night after they had just played. Are
you seeing the same thing or no?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, we don't talk about the record, Bucky and the
in game two is of back to backs.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We're gonna for that record itself.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
No, it's it's been a while, but I will say,
and Al avert we're talking about this, that was that
was definitely the best effort, the best game in game
two of back to back that we've seen in over
a year.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
And and honestly, I think Casey the Smith.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
For Dallas, he just was on fire, their goaltender, and
the Kraken had every opportunity to score goals in that game.
They had thirty plus shots on goal. They did everything right,
but they ran into a hot goalie. The effort was there,
the compete level was there. You didn't since from the
Seattle from both teams, actually, because Dallas also played on Saturday,
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you didn't since any of the fatigue that you might
get in game two of the back to back. Al
even going so far as to say, and I agree
with him.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
That it was it had a very.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Playoff like feel to it. So you're right. I mean,
this team has gotten much better in those situations. This
is only the second back to back this season. They're
gonna have eleven more so they're gonna have plenty more
chances to get to get it.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
But for the record, the Kraken are.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Now oh and fourteen in their last in game twos
of back to back since last season, so the record
obviously is not good, but last night was, hands down,
bar none, the best game two back to back effort
that we've seen in a year plus for Seattle.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
The Voice Eric fits You is with us every Tuesday
at this time to talk some krack and hockey. The
team back in action tonight at home against the Columbus
US Blue Jackets, coming off a couple memorable games over
the weekend. But Joey to Cord placed on the IR
what I mean and the NHL I AR works a
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little different than other people's I are, so maybe explain
the rules and just how serious this is for the
team's goalie.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
So we haven't.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
We haven't gotten official word on Joey yet. Oh yes,
when you place when you place someone on IR, that
means they are out for at least four games. So
it sounds like he's eligible to return on Saturday. Now,
we don't know how.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Severe the issue is.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
All that we know is that he did not travel
with the crack into Saint Louis and Dallas is being
evaluated for an upper body injury. We're hoping to find
out more morning. Skate will be here about an hour
and a half or so. And attentive team. So we're
hoping for an update by then. If not, then afore
the game tonight. Hey, you never know, right, things could
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be things could be great. He could be out for
the next two nights and then and then we'll see
him back this weekend. But we've got nothing official yet.
I will say that Matt Murray and put Grubauer. I
thought they they did a very very good job in
in coming in winning games on Saturday for for Grubauer,
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and then keeping the Kraken in the game the entire
night for Murray on Sunday. And for two goalies who
have not played in two and a half weeks, they've
come in and relief. This is their first true start
since you know, games four and six of the season.
So I think for Seattle, they they've got two goalies
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who are capable of winning in this league. You've seen
it before. We all seen what Grubauer can do. Matt
Murray's won a couple of Cups. He's trying to get
back to a level that that he was in his
past career. He came in this offseason in preseason and
said this is the best that he's felt in ten years.
So you know, I know the team is confident in
both Goldies that have You're hoping for good news on
(26:08):
Joey de Court, but when when you see ir, he's
at least.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Gone for four so that means he's out tonight.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
He's out on Thursday, and then hopefully we see him
back on Saturday. But we've got no official work yet.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
All right, who's the what do we got to look
forward to to night against the Blue Jackets? I mean,
who's the guy that I need to be cheering against
or watching out for while and watching?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I mean, Carill Martenko is a superstar that I don't
think a lot of folks give credit for because he
plays in Columbus. You know, he has all the tools
and all the intangibles of a great goal scorer, a
great playmaker in this league. He's on an eight game
(26:51):
point streak. He's got points in all but two games
this season for Columbus. They are coming off of a
very emotional over time I'm lost in Edmonton last night.
They had a four to two lead in the third
and then they ended up losing five to four on
the road last night in Edmonton. So they're coming in
(27:12):
in game two of their back to back. Their number
one goalie, Elvis burs Linkins, is going to play tonight,
so they saved him for the second go back to back,
So it's not gonna be easy, I think the Kraken
though they've had Columbus's number, they've won five of their
last six, but their last meeting in Columbus last year
they lost six too, So a lot of I think
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defensive structure is gonna have to be applied here tonight
again because Columbus is a team that likes to push
the pace, They like to rush up the ice. They
a little bit loose, a lot like San Jose, but
they don't have I think the same amount of skill
and as San Jose has. But this is going to
be another game where the Kraken cannot afford to sit
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back defensively and get into a track meet.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
By the way, you handled the call perfectly, having never
been there before, that was an outstanding call. I didn't
mention that when we play.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Thank you, yeah, perfect, perfect, Thank you very much. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah. All right, So tonight Columbus seven o'clock, puck drops
and Mike menton on the airwaves at six thirty. I'm
assuming and we're ready to go and get this thing
back on the right track. Correct, Yes, we are.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Three game homestands starts tonight.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
We got Columbus tonight, Winnipeg on Thursday, another crack at
the San Jose Sharks on Saturday, and then they're out
of town for the next week. They go out east
for Detroit, Chicago, Pittsburgh and the New York Islanders next week.
So three big games here at home, and right now
they're cracking, are sitting, you know, comfortably, I shouldn't say comfortably.
(28:49):
They're in a playoff spot. Yes, it's only game sixteen,
but I said this the other day. And you're getting
to a point now in the NHL over the next
four to five weeks that teams who aren't in playoffs
bots are going to have to start going on these
five to six to seven game runs. And if you're
like Seattle, if you can continue taking four of every
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six points, if you can continue winning three out of
every five games, I think you're still going to be
in a spot where you're competing, you know, for playoffs
and for seedings. So this next two weeks before Thanksgiving
are going to be big for Seattle. Some good teams,
some decent travel as well. So I mean it's it's
it's a pretty big stretch coming up for the cracking.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, holy parody. I mean what You're in a division
of what eight teams and seven of them are five
hundred or better Columbus there, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I was just like they drew it up.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Who saw the Anaheim Ducks on a seven game winning
streak leading the division second place in the NHL, Right,
the Edmonton Oilers. They do this every single year where
they get off to a very slow start they then
go on a ten, eleven, twelve game run and get
right back into it. But you're right, I mean you
got in the Pacific Division. Of the eight teams, seven
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of them are within a point or two of a playoffs.
So this is this is the Paerry that I love
as a fan is a broadcaster. It's nerve wracking because
you love to you know, beat up in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You know, you look at a lot of.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Other sports where these teams jump out to multi game
leads and then they hold on to it. But not
this year. It's every game of the battle and needs
to be needs to be won, especially this season.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You the man, Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
All right, fellas, actually have a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Ever fits you. The boys of you are Seattle, cracking
right here on the flag Ship Sports Radio ninety three
point three k j r f M. Again puck drops
at seven o'clock tonight, cracking at home, a Climate Pledge arena,
taking on the Columbus Blue Jackets coming up next. Jed
Fish is adamant. He was yesterday that he's not going anywhere?
Do you believe him? Sports Radio ninety three point three
(30:55):
kJ r f M. Wonderful to see and he has
that like Heimi March and he really gets in like this,
we like to see you happy buckle. Yes. Yeah. We
started the show today talking about Jedfish. He yesterday had
his I don't want to call it the Raffael Palmero
(31:15):
moment because Palmero was lying through his teeth, but he
did have that podium moment where he was like, all right,
enough of this, I'm not going anywhere, And so we
started the show with it, had a really nice conversation
about it. The conversation, of course, is going to continue
no matter what Jed said yesterday, but we didn't play
the actual audio, So here you go. Here's Jedfish yesterday
(31:37):
at his press conference trying to shoot down rumors that
he's not happy at Washington.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
I would say those lists are made by people that
have no idea what's going on. Honestly, they don't know
what's happening in our program. They have no idea how
excited I am about the youth in our program. They
have no idea how excited I am about the fact
that we're playing six or seven true freshman No idea
how excited I am about the fact that that Demon
(32:02):
Williams I believe has a chance over the next year
or two years after this to be one of the
all time best quarterbacks that have come through this area.
I don't think that they would know how I enjoyed
coaching here, that we've spent a ton of money into
building this program the way we want to build it,
that I had a great hand in all the facilities.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I was a big part.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Of making the decisions on how we wanted to recreate
this space, to give our players an unbelievable opportunity to
have a recovery room that they never had, working on
making sure that they have the best nutrition they could
possibly have, give them great new meeting rooms, new office
spaces for our coaches. I think, unfortunately what happens is
they just want to tie coaches to lists, and then
we have to sit there and defend it, rather than
(32:46):
just be able to just tell our fans, like our players,
our coaching staff, myself, my family, we love coaching at
the University of Washington. And the ridiculousness of people that
want to claim that because my wife and daughters are
living in Arizona, because I have a sixteen year old
who's been in five different schools in the last eight
years to finish your high school, has anything to do
(33:07):
with my decision, or the ridiculousness of just putting my
name on a list just to do it. Only that
does effect recruiting, It affects our team, it affects our staff.
And my hope is that our players, our coaches, our
families understand how much we love it at Washington.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Jed Fish yesterday, I mean well said, and I hope
it's true. I can't sit here and say I'm believing
every single word of it, and that doesn't have everything
to do with Jed Fish. I'm not sure that I
would trust any head coach in college football. You know,
maybe Dabosweeney. He seems pretty married to Clemson, and he
(33:47):
seems to be pretty honest and genuine with his comments.
But I don't know if I would take anybody in
his spot for their word. There's a lot of smoke here.
I don't know if there's any I would just say
if there is no fire, if he what he is
saying is true, it really does stink for him. Now,
maybe earned it a little bit bucky because he's bounced
(34:10):
around and has been so proud of that sort of
a vagabond of football. But yeah, his job is a
lot more difficult if people are just attaching his names
to this because he's moved around a lot, or because
his daughter is with his wife and their other home
still back in Arizona. It does make his job a
(34:31):
lot more difficult, And so I feel for him if
he's being truthful. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I mean, there's no way around it that it's more
makes his life more difficult. Because you said it earlier
that you're recruiting NonStop, whether it's recruiting new kids to come,
or whether it's recruiting the dudes that are here to stay,
or you know, transfers all over the place. It's just
I mean, there's so much that goes into it that
(34:58):
with all of a sudden people cast a doubt as
to whether or not you're going to be here. Then
that makes it more difficult, that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, makes it so difficult to keep your guys and
to lure others.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Right, if somebody's on the fence of like, boy, I
kind of want to stay because I'm because a coach, right,
Like I want to be loyal to coach.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I kind of want to stay.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But the opportunity to go back to wherever at USC, boy,
that sounds nice if that's home or something like that,
then yeah, you start hearing rumors like this, and maybe
they start entertaining the option of leaving a little bit more.
I think a big thing too, is I think you
know a lot of folks don't want to be used
as a stepping stone, like you dubbed would be pumped about,
(35:39):
you know, having another coach think that there's better opportunity
out there to go somewhere else. Now Alabama to me
and programs he's rumored to go to her Florida and UCLA,
and I don't think those are better programs.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah, UCLA at this moment, Ucla, I would say definitely not.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I would think a lot of people maybe would think
that Florida is not that they're better right now. But
I mean, to me, I think of the Gators as
a true blue bud. But I think you dubs right
there too, So to me, yeah, it's I just don't
think the idea of the university not wanting I think
the university wants him to be like, dude, put your
roots down. Well, he did everything he possibly can besides
(36:16):
make a promise a pinky swear. I'm not going anywhere
I swear. Pinky swear actually bad.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'd trust him less. Yeah, if you pinky shore.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
Well, if he was up there, like I promise, this
is where I want to be. I don't want to
go anywhere else because you can't speak in absolutes in
this day and age in college football. And I think
at that point, okay, you are just saying the things
you think we all want to hear, and then I
wouldn't trust him at all.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
All right, Well, we're gonna ask Rick new Eiel about
it next and his thoughts on the entire college football landscape.
It's rankings, Tuesday. After all, it's Chuck and Box Sports
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Our ads have thrown off my big plan. I was
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Ash, that didn't think you wanted I thought I wanted
to be a secret.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I was going to try to keep that a secret.
Now it's out, so Gene act surprised.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'll pretend that I'm shutting my eyes. I'm closing my
ears right now, Chuck, I have no idea what you're
talking about. Good morning to you, Good morning, good morning everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
A great to have you with us. I want to
bring up something that we were just talking about, like
a couple of gambling scandals recently. And I know that
we I didn't warn you that where I was going
to bring this up, but I just want I would
imagine getting having gotten to know Gene Sterritor. There is
nothing in the world that would bother you more than
just anyone, even a rowdy fan, suggesting that you weren't
(01:16):
acting with integrity on the field with your calls and
that you were on the take. How much does it
bother you to hear that, not just about yourself, but
about all of your fellow officials. Is there anything in
the world that bothers you more than that accusation?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
No, probably not to be really serious about it, Chuck,
You know, I mean, unfortunately, there have been situations. There
was a very large one with an official actually in
the NBA while I was actively officiating in the NFL.
You know it is it is exactly what you just said. Yeah,
I do love these games. I'd love doing what I did.
(01:57):
I love the passion of sports. The integrity of the
game is really what I love the most. And that's why,
you know, I volunteered to assume the roles that I
was fortunate enough to have, because officiating is that projection
of integrity and keeping the game there that and then
when we have these blips and these human weaknesses or
(02:18):
whatever these situations create. Now where the conspiracy theorists have
a precedent to say, see, I told you so, the
game suffers. And if it's a player, if it's an official,
if it's a coach, it really doesn't matter, right, I mean,
once those spots take place, you've skilled the beast to
(02:39):
say all of these crazy things that are said because
of a couple of bad apples, right, and they're they're serious.
And look at the officiating world NCAA. When I worked
in college basketball, we had a you know, a very
large segment of our regional clinic was about gambling, was
about being approached or who to speak to or what
(03:00):
you think, maybe just a normal conversation about, Hey, I
saw you were at such and such place last night
and so and so it looked like he was limping
a little bit. Did you you know that? You know,
you would think that would be kind of normal airport? Right, Wait,
waiting for a playing conversation, It's not right. So you
do live in that world and you have to be
aware of it. And the National Football League naturally is
(03:23):
very adamant about all of those types of things. When
I actively officiated in the NFL, you were not permitted
in a casino period full stop. That's it, and never
in a sports book, even in the off season because
of that, and you wear that as a badge of honors.
So yes, it hurts. It hurts the games, It hurts
all of what we do. And you know, Chuck, I
do listen to you guys, not just on Tuesdays, you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Know, but but but.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Through the week. And what you had just said earlier
was right. The prop betting is it seems to me
would be more inviting, right to that person that may
not want to throw a game, you know, because of
his feel for the team and all the other things, right,
you know what I mean, Hey, what if I just
throw ball three or ball one here? I can make
(04:06):
that back up. It's not a big deal. So it's
opened up a window to maybe convince yourself that I'm
really not infecting the integrity of the game. Yeah, I'm
just playing with it a little bit. But I can
overcome that, you know. And I think we're in a
in a very delicate spot as a result of it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I just I just don't like the idea that
you've got a buddy that at some point in the
middle of the game, I'll blow two free throws I'll
give you a wink. When you've got the bed in,
you'll put your hat in your lap. I mean, that
just is too dangerous. And you're right. I mean maybe
that's another element that you brought up that if you
(04:44):
think that I won't throw this from my teammates, but
no one will notice if I just make a little
money on the side. I think that's a phenomenal point.
All right, Well, let's get into some of the things
that happened over the weekend. We had a couple of
things in the Seahawks games that you were actually on
the broadcast for so enjoyed hearing you on our Seahawks
broadcast this past weekend against the Cardinals. Uh sorry, not sorry.
(05:08):
We didn't give you a more competitive game to monitor
their gene.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
You know, though, it's good fun. The team, guys, I'm
gonna be honest with you, man, it's the team is
really a good, solid football team. And I know what
the energy of the stadium brings when you're in that stadium,
and what the fan base really does do. And I
do think there's a couple of points there here or there,
not for any gambling purposes, but just just because of
the magnitude of the twelfth person and watching how they're executed,
(05:37):
how they're playing is a special thing, you know. And
you're up weeks every one, so that's a long season.
But what a great football team.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, well they were back to back. They weren't back
to back plays, but we had twin plays that resulted
in a sack, fumble, touchdown. Ty Reese Knight got both
the sax and force fumbles. DeMarcus Lawrence got both the
fumble return and the touchdowns. Number one, have you ever
seen that, ever seen two plays that's similar from a
(06:05):
defense in a game? And then number two, you were
on the call. How close were either one of those
from being overturned?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Close? And I think those plays and I do think
replay And again I can harken back because I am
that long in the tooth when we did not have replay.
So when you were on the field, you were the
only person going to rule whether the player was down
or whether it was a fumble. And we used to
have the phrase like you have to sell the call
right because it was so close and you wanted to
get it right. And I do think that replay has
(06:37):
allowed those plays or officials to feel comfortable that my gosh,
that's just so close. Just let it play right, And
then we do look and yeah, they're close plays. They're
really framed by frame plays about possession or loss of
and down by contact you and we're leaving those plays alone.
Sometimes we leave someones that are a little too easy
to kind of stop, and we don't. But I do
(06:59):
think replace helped that. And to answer the first part
of it, I've never seen one player create the fumble
the other scoop and score and then to have it repeated.
And you know, the chat GPT I think is even
confused by the question because I was we were talking
about it in the studio like, don't I don't recall
that ever happening, you know, So a couple of one
(07:21):
offs there, which is kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, there was another thing in the Seattle game where
Jackson Smith and Jigbo was concussed and he had came
out and yet hadn't gone through like the concussion protocol
and the game was stopped and then all of a
sudden he tried to go back in there like, no,
you got to go through the protocol.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
What is there?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Something is that on you guys? Or is there a
specific concussion guy on the sidelines. How are you guys
supposed to make sure they go through whatever it is
they're supposed to follow through with.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, there's multiple layers, Buck, and it's a great question.
If my memory serves me correctly, I do believe that
one of the players after the initial play there was
a start, if I remember correctly, they took a defensive
player out for that, and I believe that those people. So,
just to give you a little background, yes, officials are
asked that if they feel or they see something or
(08:12):
look at a player's helmet after a hit. A lot
of times it may not be the hit. It may
be the head hitting off the turf, but it's the proximity.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Of you being there.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And you know, I'm not a doctor, but if you
feel like that player looks woozy or just stumbling something
of that effect, something that would be rather noticeable, right,
and you're there to stop the game, and he's going
to be removed and checked and in this case the
defensive back that is stopt. They have what they call
an ATC spot er. I forget what the letters are
(08:44):
forgive me for that right at the moment, but there
is an individual in the stadium upstairs, rewinding the plays,
looking at the plays, looking on the field, and if
they happen to see something like that head hit in
a delayed reaction or a player stumbling after that that
wasn't caught, they wired downright to the officials on the
field immediately stopped the game. Stop the game, they'll identify
(09:05):
the player, and then that players removed. I know that
happened with the defensive back. The Smith and Gibber situation is,
I don't know that he played the next play, but
then he came back onto the field, if I recall correctly,
and then I think the ATEC spot I recognized he
was back on the field, and it may have been
them and looking at the first player the defensive player
(09:26):
situation that they also were looking at that play and thought,
looks like Smith and Jigger got a pretty good hit
there as well. And again I am speculating here, but
I'm assuming that's what may have occurred, and they have
stopped it and asked him to take a walk into
the tent and go through the protocol as well.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, does the ATC, which I think is Alcohol, Tobacco
and Concussions Agency, do they follow, well, did they follow
JSN up and down the sin of since that is
their job, do they make sure they go through the protocol?
I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, that's not thorough enough.
And then they alert the official is that they also
(10:06):
monitor them once they're off the field, I guess is
the question?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Well, I think in this case, Chuck, he kind of
removed himself right, either strategy wise or it was just
a substitution that took place after a big play. I
don't know that he was examined at that point. I
know he wasn't officially examined because he had not entered
that tent and then had that private moment with the
doctor's trainers or whomever is inside there. So my assumption
(10:29):
isn't And really maybe they were looking at the sideline
and seeing him on that sideline and then tying that
I don't know whatever he was doing over there with
that play, and felt like, you know what, we're always
airing on the side of safety when it comes to
these rightly, so, so that may have been going through
their mind or maybe part of the observation prior to
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stopping him.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Jane's Territorius with Us a segment that brought to you
by BMW Seattle every single week. Let's talk about taunting.
Were you a two pump guy? Did you subscribe? I
don't know if you know the connection with Ricodowdell and
the Key and Peel Ski, but it's popped up in
(11:12):
the National Football League and that officials only allow one
pump with the hips. Were you a one pump or
a two pump official?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, Chuck, I mean again, I'll plug myself in Paramount
Plus and CBS and everybody right now. But we have
a show now that streams on Paramount Plus and YouTube TV,
NFL Pregame or NFL Today Pregame, Paramount Plus. It's a
great show with Matt Ryan, Amanda, Kyle Long, Antonio Pierce.
(11:46):
They do a great show. And I actually went on
the show this week because it is a streaming show
Pregamer on ten a m Eastern, and we talked about
the pumpgate, yeah, and what is allowed and look, I
had full transparency and if no, I was going to
tick on, we need to clicks on the stream, so
I'm plugging. But we went back into the history of
(12:06):
what could have been the beginnings of this and believe
it or not Aaron Rodgers pulled a like a little
mini what would be the key and peel third pump
kind of movement if you've watched the skit in twenty twenty.
And then we had a digs that pulled it off
I think in week eight, which kind of caught like,
oh is that? What is that one? And then we
have moved forward as you you know, so aptly described,
(12:30):
and now we had to choreograph full key and peel
skin and I thought it was great when they interviewed
the player and he really thought the key and peels
ruling was like the NFL ruling, like oh no, no,
you're allowed to you know, just not three. So yeah,
but it does, you know, go back to the no
fun leg It falls.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
In the sexual gesture category and we can't even have
a pump here, guys.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You don't even have luck, but.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You're not allowed any pumping at all. And look when
you got an older guy with a bad back that
if he had the pump three times like that, what
I don't know if I can get three in and
two if I had, you want to throw my back out?
I got to call something on you that I'm jealous,
you know, So but yeah, I thought it was enjoyable
to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Do you think they're do you think right now?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I know that they created a you know, the idea of, hey,
let's kind of get some of the taunting out of it.
You know, there's there's a you'll see it bount once
a week. It feels like somebody will do something in
a flaggerstone. Do you feel like it's working. They're trying
to get some of the taunting and increase the sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It is Buck, and it's of an evolving scenario because
the generations just continue to get more creative, and you know,
like it or not, there's generational gaps. Some things that
are hot and new in the twenty year old world
a fifty five year old person may not be aware of, right,
But no, there's there's a constant movement through that and
(13:52):
it's the dance that we don't want to be the
no fun like there is entertainment now more with this,
they have become more flexible than when I started. But
then there's also a platform and the respect of not
of all the viewers and the demographics of the viewers
that are watching. So sexual gestures, weapon things, brandishing, all
these things that have come about with his creativity of
the players and what's hot and new in their world.
(14:17):
You've got to constantly evolve with that and try to
work in that balance where yes, this is entertaining, but no,
this is not a message we want to send to
the next generation. So it is it is NonStop evolving, right,
And I think this is a good case of that.
This is a real good example of that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Why why was Bradley Chubb flagged? I mean it made
Miami Dolphins fans pretty angry in the Bills game. That
didn't look very harmful at all. He was just kind
of walking away from a guy that he sacked and
did a little silly dance and got flagged. Was that
taking it too far? Or was that, in your opinion
(14:55):
aggressive on Chubb's part.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I think that's where we get into, you know, things
not black and white, and what subjectivity is and what
did you interpret by the uh the crawling over top
of the individual after the tackle and the proximity of
the body part store on another body part, and and
I think that's what I'm assuming that that's what they
that's what they interpreted there. Yeah, And I think in
(15:20):
the book it does say by the letter of the law.
After taking a player down, you roll off of them
because they don't want the players standing over top of
the opponents. Things of that nature. To me, yeah, it
happens quick. I've seen a lot of players that go
into the command or crawl right after they make a
big hit without bodies underneath of them. They flagged it.
(15:40):
And I think, if I'm really you know, reughing that
game and I see it, it happened so quickly, I
may have a quick conversation with the individual and no,
it's and preface it with I know you didn't mean
to do that or have it look like that, but
it could have looked like that, So let's try to
stay away from that move. But that's my guess again,
and I, you know, some of that speculat.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You know what, I think I saw an edited version
somebody that tried to control the narrative because it looked
to me I only saw the part where he was
sort of dancing away from him. I didn't even see
the part where he was crawling over the top of him.
So yeah, now now it makes a little more sense.
It probably just was a delayed flag. In that situation,
you weren't happening to be on the Seahawks Super Bowl
(16:22):
when Doug Baldwin did his silly thing in the end.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No, I missed that one was I was not part
of that. I was part of some of Marshawn's looks
of adjusting himself as he got to the one yard
line and would turn back to look at the field though.
So that was another creative play that started to happen, right,
I mean if we look back in history, so.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, how did you I don't recall how you handled that?
How did you handle that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Uh? What's the fifteen yard flag?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think that seems appropriate.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Probably chuckle during commercial because you're a human. You know,
you don't have to be you know, this old crotchety
guy all the time I made it's a foul, and
then maybe we laughed when the cameras are.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
All right, Well, great stuff today. Thanks for zigging and
zagging with me through these topics today. Appreciate you, and
we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Thanks guys, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All right. Jean staretur CBS Rules Analyst's Greatest Official and
NFL History, joining us every single week right here on
Chuck and Buck. Thanks to BMW Seattle. Looking for a
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(17:48):
to roll with us on the Hinkel mccrinkleberry two pumps.
I think Michael Bennett brought that back for a little
while there as well, and he was doing that celebration
dance after his sex. I think he got flagged for it,
if I remember correctly, But I didn't realize no pumps
was the rule. You can't do one pump, forget two pumps.
It's zero pump.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
They let him do like quarter pumps, maybe even half pumps,
quarter pumps maybe like uh well, no, don't don't do it.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Dalle was funny because he didn't pump at all. So
he gathered everybody around and he did the hinkle mccrinkleberry
stance in the in the end zone. Everybody was looking
at him, and then he just ran off the field.
All right, Everett fits, you will join us here on
the other side. That's worthy. You know, a couple couple
pumps right there. Pumps. So we'll talk to the voice
(18:40):
next on kJ R. Here's Montour left side activates down
the wall.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Montour back man shot toward the goal, everly swatted it
ve Seattle back to the line.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Here's Stevens has said Turler. Steven said, point five left
in the third Seattle tie the game three wait and
period number three.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh Iver fits you on the call. Saturday's unbelievable come
from behind win for the Krack, And we'll get into
it here in a moment with the voice himself Crack
and Ticket Tuesday, though, I want to let you know,
if you're the tenth caller every single hour when you
hear that audio played here on KJAR call us at
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(19:26):
that tenth call is gonna win a pair of tickets
to see the Crack and play November twenty sixth against
the Dallas Stars. Joining us. Now, the man that made
that call, Everett fits You, is with us. How unbelievable
was that finish?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
You know what I think for where that game started
to where that game ended. I mean typically after a
game like that, you're start like that, you're hoping, I
hope they can hold on. Excuse me, I hope they
can find some kind of solace. But for them, the
battle back in the way that they did that was
a hard lot earned win. I mean, they they put
(20:03):
they put a couple of really bad mistakes behind them from.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That second period.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
They got back to their game, they got back to
what made them successful, and they were able to eek
out two points.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You've never called a goal with point five seconds left
in I.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Honestly, I can honestly say, I'm pretty confident. I don't
think I have. I've called a game with five seconds left.
I've called the game, you know, obviously in the final minute,
but with point five seconds, yeah, left on the clock.
I mean, that was that was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Their last second shots in basketball. But then again, there's
not a guy standing in front of the goal. I
mean there are walkoff homers in baseball, but there's no clock.
I mean, for the only thing better if it had
been tied and he did that, it was a walk off,
skate off goal, yeah, with point five seconds. But that's
(20:59):
in saying. To get that in there, I.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Will say when I was in college, one of my
one of my only ever basketball games that broadcasted, I
forget who who Bowling Green was playing, but I had
a buzzer beater and it sounded like Gus Johnson at
the Indiana Penn State game over the weekend. You know, oh,
(21:23):
I was, I was a falsetto. I was streaming.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I was a.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Nineteen year old sophomore.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Losing my ever loving mind. I have no idea what
I even said.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
That. That's probably about it. My my best Gus Johnson
when I was and I was in college. That's as
close as I've ever come.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Unfortunately, Fits they couldn't follow that up the next night
when they when they went to Dallas, and and yet
it's still good game, competitive game. To me, it feels
like they're better. I don't know what the win loss
record is on uh, you know, back to back nights.
I know that last year. In the last couple of years,
they haven't had a very good record when it comes out,
but they look like they're more competitive even if they're playing,
(22:05):
you know, the night after they had just played. Are
you seeing the same thing or no?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, we don't talk about the record, Bucky and the
in game two is of back to backs.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We're gonna for that record itself.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
No, it's it's been a while, but I will say,
and Al avert we're talking about this, that was that
was definitely the best effort, the best game in game
two of back to back that we've seen in over
a year.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
And and honestly, I think Casey the Smith.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
For Dallas, he just was on fire, their goaltender, and
the Kraken had every opportunity to score goals in that game.
They had thirty plus shots on goal. They did everything right,
but they ran into a hot goalie. The effort was there,
the compete level was there. You didn't since from the
Seattle from both teams, actually, because Dallas also played on Saturday,
(23:00):
you didn't since any of the fatigue that you might
get in game two of the back to back. Al
even going so far as to say, and I agree
with him.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
That it was it had a very.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Playoff like feel to it. So you're right. I mean,
this team has gotten much better in those situations. This
is only the second back to back this season. They're
gonna have eleven more so they're gonna have plenty more
chances to get to get it.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
But for the record, the Kraken are.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Now oh and fourteen in their last in game twos
of back to back since last season, so the record
obviously is not good, but last night was, hands down,
bar none, the best game two back to back effort
that we've seen in a year plus for Seattle.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
The Voice Eric fits You is with us every Tuesday
at this time to talk some krack and hockey. The
team back in action tonight at home against the Columbus
US Blue Jackets, coming off a couple memorable games over
the weekend. But Joey to Cord placed on the IR
what I mean and the NHL I AR works a
(24:12):
little different than other people's I are, so maybe explain
the rules and just how serious this is for the
team's goalie.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
So we haven't.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
We haven't gotten official word on Joey yet. Oh yes,
when you place when you place someone on IR, that
means they are out for at least four games. So
it sounds like he's eligible to return on Saturday. Now,
we don't know how.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Severe the issue is.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
All that we know is that he did not travel
with the crack into Saint Louis and Dallas is being
evaluated for an upper body injury. We're hoping to find
out more morning. Skate will be here about an hour
and a half or so. And attentive team. So we're
hoping for an update by then. If not, then afore
the game tonight. Hey, you never know, right, things could
(25:04):
be things could be great. He could be out for
the next two nights and then and then we'll see
him back this weekend. But we've got nothing official yet.
I will say that Matt Murray and put Grubauer. I
thought they they did a very very good job in
in coming in winning games on Saturday for for Grubauer,
(25:25):
and then keeping the Kraken in the game the entire
night for Murray on Sunday. And for two goalies who
have not played in two and a half weeks, they've
come in and relief. This is their first true start
since you know, games four and six of the season.
So I think for Seattle, they they've got two goalies
(25:47):
who are capable of winning in this league. You've seen
it before. We all seen what Grubauer can do. Matt
Murray's won a couple of Cups. He's trying to get
back to a level that that he was in his
past career. He came in this offseason in preseason and
said this is the best that he's felt in ten years.
So you know, I know the team is confident in
both Goldies that have You're hoping for good news on
(26:08):
Joey de Court, but when when you see ir, he's
at least.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Gone for four so that means he's out tonight.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
He's out on Thursday, and then hopefully we see him
back on Saturday. But we've got no official work yet.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
All right, who's the what do we got to look
forward to to night against the Blue Jackets? I mean,
who's the guy that I need to be cheering against
or watching out for while and watching?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I mean, Carill Martenko is a superstar that I don't
think a lot of folks give credit for because he
plays in Columbus. You know, he has all the tools
and all the intangibles of a great goal scorer, a
great playmaker in this league. He's on an eight game
(26:51):
point streak. He's got points in all but two games
this season for Columbus. They are coming off of a
very emotional over time I'm lost in Edmonton last night.
They had a four to two lead in the third
and then they ended up losing five to four on
the road last night in Edmonton. So they're coming in
(27:12):
in game two of their back to back. Their number
one goalie, Elvis burs Linkins, is going to play tonight,
so they saved him for the second go back to back,
So it's not gonna be easy, I think the Kraken
though they've had Columbus's number, they've won five of their
last six, but their last meeting in Columbus last year
they lost six too, So a lot of I think
(27:37):
defensive structure is gonna have to be applied here tonight
again because Columbus is a team that likes to push
the pace, They like to rush up the ice. They
a little bit loose, a lot like San Jose, but
they don't have I think the same amount of skill
and as San Jose has. But this is going to
be another game where the Kraken cannot afford to sit
(27:58):
back defensively and get into a track meet.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
By the way, you handled the call perfectly, having never
been there before, that was an outstanding call. I didn't
mention that when we play.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Thank you, yeah, perfect, perfect, Thank you very much. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah. All right, So tonight Columbus seven o'clock, puck drops
and Mike menton on the airwaves at six thirty. I'm
assuming and we're ready to go and get this thing
back on the right track. Correct, Yes, we are.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Three game homestands starts tonight.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
We got Columbus tonight, Winnipeg on Thursday, another crack at
the San Jose Sharks on Saturday, and then they're out
of town for the next week. They go out east
for Detroit, Chicago, Pittsburgh and the New York Islanders next week.
So three big games here at home, and right now
they're cracking, are sitting, you know, comfortably, I shouldn't say comfortably.
(28:49):
They're in a playoff spot. Yes, it's only game sixteen,
but I said this the other day. And you're getting
to a point now in the NHL over the next
four to five weeks that teams who aren't in playoffs
bots are going to have to start going on these
five to six to seven game runs. And if you're
like Seattle, if you can continue taking four of every
(29:09):
six points, if you can continue winning three out of
every five games, I think you're still going to be
in a spot where you're competing, you know, for playoffs
and for seedings. So this next two weeks before Thanksgiving
are going to be big for Seattle. Some good teams,
some decent travel as well. So I mean it's it's
it's a pretty big stretch coming up for the cracking.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, holy parody. I mean what You're in a division
of what eight teams and seven of them are five
hundred or better Columbus there, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I was just like they drew it up.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Who saw the Anaheim Ducks on a seven game winning
streak leading the division second place in the NHL, Right,
the Edmonton Oilers. They do this every single year where
they get off to a very slow start they then
go on a ten, eleven, twelve game run and get
right back into it. But you're right, I mean you
got in the Pacific Division. Of the eight teams, seven
(30:03):
of them are within a point or two of a playoffs.
So this is this is the Paerry that I love
as a fan is a broadcaster. It's nerve wracking because
you love to you know, beat up in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You know, you look at a lot of.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Other sports where these teams jump out to multi game
leads and then they hold on to it. But not
this year. It's every game of the battle and needs
to be needs to be won, especially this season.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You the man, Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
All right, fellas, actually have a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Ever fits you. The boys of you are Seattle, cracking
right here on the flag Ship Sports Radio ninety three
point three k j r f M. Again puck drops
at seven o'clock tonight, cracking at home, a Climate Pledge arena,
taking on the Columbus Blue Jackets coming up next. Jed
Fish is adamant. He was yesterday that he's not going anywhere?
Do you believe him? Sports Radio ninety three point three
(30:55):
kJ r f M. Wonderful to see and he has
that like Heimi March and he really gets in like this,
we like to see you happy buckle. Yes. Yeah. We
started the show today talking about Jedfish. He yesterday had
his I don't want to call it the Raffael Palmero
(31:15):
moment because Palmero was lying through his teeth, but he
did have that podium moment where he was like, all right,
enough of this, I'm not going anywhere, And so we
started the show with it, had a really nice conversation
about it. The conversation, of course, is going to continue
no matter what Jed said yesterday, but we didn't play
the actual audio, So here you go. Here's Jedfish yesterday
(31:37):
at his press conference trying to shoot down rumors that
he's not happy at Washington.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
I would say those lists are made by people that
have no idea what's going on. Honestly, they don't know
what's happening in our program. They have no idea how
excited I am about the youth in our program. They
have no idea how excited I am about the fact
that we're playing six or seven true freshman No idea
how excited I am about the fact that that Demon
(32:02):
Williams I believe has a chance over the next year
or two years after this to be one of the
all time best quarterbacks that have come through this area.
I don't think that they would know how I enjoyed
coaching here, that we've spent a ton of money into
building this program the way we want to build it,
that I had a great hand in all the facilities.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I was a big part.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Of making the decisions on how we wanted to recreate
this space, to give our players an unbelievable opportunity to
have a recovery room that they never had, working on
making sure that they have the best nutrition they could
possibly have, give them great new meeting rooms, new office
spaces for our coaches. I think, unfortunately what happens is
they just want to tie coaches to lists, and then
we have to sit there and defend it, rather than
(32:46):
just be able to just tell our fans, like our players,
our coaching staff, myself, my family, we love coaching at
the University of Washington. And the ridiculousness of people that
want to claim that because my wife and daughters are
living in Arizona, because I have a sixteen year old
who's been in five different schools in the last eight
years to finish your high school, has anything to do
(33:07):
with my decision, or the ridiculousness of just putting my
name on a list just to do it. Only that
does effect recruiting, It affects our team, it affects our staff.
And my hope is that our players, our coaches, our
families understand how much we love it at Washington.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Jed Fish yesterday, I mean well said, and I hope
it's true. I can't sit here and say I'm believing
every single word of it, and that doesn't have everything
to do with Jed Fish. I'm not sure that I
would trust any head coach in college football. You know,
maybe Dabosweeney. He seems pretty married to Clemson, and he
(33:47):
seems to be pretty honest and genuine with his comments.
But I don't know if I would take anybody in
his spot for their word. There's a lot of smoke here.
I don't know if there's any I would just say
if there is no fire, if he what he is
saying is true, it really does stink for him. Now,
maybe earned it a little bit bucky because he's bounced
(34:10):
around and has been so proud of that sort of
a vagabond of football. But yeah, his job is a
lot more difficult if people are just attaching his names
to this because he's moved around a lot, or because
his daughter is with his wife and their other home
still back in Arizona. It does make his job a
(34:31):
lot more difficult, And so I feel for him if
he's being truthful. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I mean, there's no way around it that it's more
makes his life more difficult. Because you said it earlier
that you're recruiting NonStop, whether it's recruiting new kids to come,
or whether it's recruiting the dudes that are here to stay,
or you know, transfers all over the place. It's just
I mean, there's so much that goes into it that
(34:58):
with all of a sudden people cast a doubt as
to whether or not you're going to be here. Then
that makes it more difficult, that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, makes it so difficult to keep your guys and
to lure others.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Right, if somebody's on the fence of like, boy, I
kind of want to stay because I'm because a coach, right,
Like I want to be loyal to coach.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I kind of want to stay.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But the opportunity to go back to wherever at USC, boy,
that sounds nice if that's home or something like that,
then yeah, you start hearing rumors like this, and maybe
they start entertaining the option of leaving a little bit more.
I think a big thing too, is I think you
know a lot of folks don't want to be used
as a stepping stone, like you dubbed would be pumped about,
(35:39):
you know, having another coach think that there's better opportunity
out there to go somewhere else. Now Alabama to me
and programs he's rumored to go to her Florida and UCLA,
and I don't think those are better programs.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah, UCLA at this moment, Ucla, I would say definitely not.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I would think a lot of people maybe would think
that Florida is not that they're better right now. But
I mean, to me, I think of the Gators as
a true blue bud. But I think you dubs right
there too, So to me, yeah, it's I just don't
think the idea of the university not wanting I think
the university wants him to be like, dude, put your
roots down. Well, he did everything he possibly can besides
(36:16):
make a promise a pinky swear. I'm not going anywhere
I swear. Pinky swear actually bad.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'd trust him less. Yeah, if you pinky shore.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
Well, if he was up there, like I promise, this
is where I want to be. I don't want to
go anywhere else because you can't speak in absolutes in
this day and age in college football. And I think
at that point, okay, you are just saying the things
you think we all want to hear, and then I
wouldn't trust him at all.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
All right, Well, we're gonna ask Rick new Eiel about
it next and his thoughts on the entire college football landscape.
It's rankings, Tuesday. After all, it's Chuck and Box Sports
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