November 14, 2025 • 30 mins
HUGH MILLEN’S X’s & O’s We are all fired up for Sunday and Hugh’s following all the storylines: what implications are there for Sam Darnold? Hugh takes a look at the matchup between these two teams, like only he can. Stafford vs Darnold. :30- MIKE HOLMGREN makes his Friday visit and gives his thoughts on Sunday's big game. :45- We close out the show and the week with Booze News!
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Al Right, maybe I've just been getting too fired up
for this game on Sunday. Maybe I need to take
it down a notch, A pretty run on the mill
game on Sunday and Los Angeles, A couple of good coaches,
I guess, a couple of quarterbacks that are kind of
I suppose it's time to break it down with our
QB one. Hugh Millan is with us here on Chuck
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and Buck in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
For some x's and o's. Damn that, Hugh, this is awesome.
Let's go. This is awesome. I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's it's just a you know, it's like a mid
term in in a college class where you know, grades
pretty high. It's not as high as the final, but
it does give you pause to say, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Where am I at this? And and so I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Wait, you know, if if Ashley will give the permission,
if I can be a little bit stereotypically sexist, but
only with Ashley's permission, Actually, are we good with that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Just for a moment? Can I can I delve into
those waters like.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, well, we're gonna have some friends over and and
I think like the dudes are going to be just
looking at the matchup things, this incredible matchup between Mike
McDonald and Sean McVay. Right, the chicks who are more
drawn to the personal stories are going to be looking
at Sam Donald. Sam Donald is the number one person
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involved in this game in my opinion, because if if
Matthew Stafford has a bad game, nobody's gonna, you know,
nobody's gonna make any referendums on Matthew Stafford if he
has a bad game. Even if Mike McDonald, you know,
if the defense kind of gets lits up, lit up,
people aren't gonna say, well, Mike McDonald forgot how to coach,
you know. But if Sam Donald has a poor game,
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there's just a lot more riding on it for him
than anybody else involved because of the nature of the
perceived collapse by him last year. He's you know, he's
getting hounded on by the local media, the national media,
the and pre production meetings that are taking place today.
They'll be asking about it. So he's gonna be reminded
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about that nine sack performance and and and the end
of the season for the Vikings last year. So I
just think there's a human interest side with Sam Donald
that exceeds all others based on you know, just hey,
this is one of the reason we love sports. This
is why in the Olympics, you know, when when it
comes down to the team Olympics and and one of
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those gals gotta sprint down the and do like nine
tumbles and five somersaults in the air and she's got
to land it, and just the pressure and maybe you
don't even know what gymnastic is like me, but you know,
there's pressure. And to watch that little gal just stick
that landing, you get chills, you know, because of that's
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what sports is.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And so Sam Donald has got some of that going
on this Sunday.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And so in an event, you know, there's just wonderful
storylines that's a big one, not just for the chicks,
the dudes will be taken note of that as well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, that's I see.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's a little bit interesting because I kind of mocked that,
Like ESPN had this headline across the front screen saying,
what's at steak for Sam Donald?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I kind of mocked it earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
My thought was, I don't think there's anything at steak
for Sam Donald. If he wins, they're a game up
in the standings. If he loses, there a game down
in the standings. I don't think we get to the
end of this and the narrative becomes, oh, Sam Darnold
might not be able to beat the Rams.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I just don't think it goes there.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But you know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe maybe it is
bigger than I was given it credit for.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, now we're getting the hypothetical, Okay, in that scenario,
if he were to have a bad game, that we
know that people, you know that all the talking heads
on Monday are going to be ripping him, then my
my response would be, in that scenario, how how tough
is he mentally?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's just as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Uh, you know, I can remember the the uh, the
pep talks we used to get from Jimmy Johnson when
I was with the Cowboys. He majored in industrial psychology.
I don't know what the industrial tag to that is,
but but he was. He was very good in in
how to present his messaging and he and he just
just say, hey, emotionally, we are not a roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We are not up and down.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know, at the uh, you know, at the whim
of whatever people say about us, we are either mentally
tough or we're not. And you know, a major challenge. So,
you know, I think that that, you know, the Jimmy
Johnson would have a component would have to be present
for Sam Darnold in the event that you were to
have a poor game. Obviously we're looking for all the
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reasons why he won't, but I think that he would
be uniquely challenged in ways that the other principles in
this game are not.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, do you is there anything in particular that your
mind goes to when it comes to divisional games? It
always seems like they're tougher, right, you play him twice
a year. I don't know if you draft necessarily trying
to combat your division foes, but your main goal is
to win the division, and so you've got to go
through those guys.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You just the familiarity with it.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
What is it in particular that that you think, especially
going into like this week for example, two good teams
buying for that number one spot that goes into divisional
matchups that make them tougher, And why it is like that, Well.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think sometimes there are division games where you just
don't kind of like the other team. I know, when
I'll reference Jimmy Johnson again, he hated the Eagles, and
I remember he comes out at the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We're beating you know, Troit Mean's.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
The quarterback obviously, and he comes over the sideline and
Jimmy says, hey, I want you to take We've got
the we're up by two touchdowns. Just want you to
take three knees and on fourth down, we're gonna start
to take a knee and then throw it deep and
and and Troy is like, he kind of looks at me,
rolls like what So he goes out and you can
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see him. He goes up on first down. And by
the way, the play by play can back this up
if you look at the play by play for that game. Uh,
he goes up and you can see he's talking to
the Eagles, and so so he takes a knee on
first down, huddle, taking THEE on second, taking thee on third.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Then on fourth down.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He throws a pass, but not up the sideline like
Jimmy had told him to do. He throws a cral route,
which which with the receiver coming back to the line
of scrimmage. Uh and uh to Alvin Harper, get a
nice game, but Alvin's tackled and blah blah blah, and
and so the so the game's over and and Troy's
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walking by, and I'm like, is Jimmy gonna get mad
at him for not throwing the go route. Well, Jimmy
Johnson had the sense to uh to not say anything.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And so I asked try.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I said, what what had you said to the Eagles
at the line of scrimmage? He said, I told them,
I said, listen, this is Troy at the line of scrimmage.
Tell talking to the Eagle defense. We're gonna take a
knee on first and second and third down, but I'm
gonna throw it on fourth down, he warned them. And
so he said, he goes, I'm not getting involved with Uh.
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You know Jimmy's you know vendettas he is, you know
these we got to play these.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Guys twice a year. You know, I'm getting smacked. And
and that had.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Stemmed from a time when Buddy Ryan was the quarterback
when he had excuse me, the coach obviously, and he
had done that, he had Randall Cunning and Hm take
a few knees and then throw a bomb. Uh in
that possession, which is is just breaks all conventions of
you know, the rules.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean Bucky in baseball.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I mean what I like, if this was baseball, Jimmy
Johnson or or Buddy Buddy Ryan should get a you know,
a fastball in the ninety nine miles an hour in
the lungs, you know, like like will self poleaf that crap.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So at any event, there's a lot to talk about
the S game. Sorry for that that diversion. But but
but the point is with with the uh, with with
the divisional games, sometimes it's heated. I don't get the
sense that that there's that hatred here. I think there's
just respect for two great teams here.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Melanis we that's X's and O's. Every Friday brought to
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the mountain turns blue at forty two degrees. Yeah, there
are a lot of things to discuss with this matchup,
especially this coaching matchup, if I can be specific. I'm curious,
and I know you've given it thought how McVeigh would
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use Nikuah and Adams and how McDonald would try to
defend them against, you know, with the weapon of emon
Wori and possibly having all of their corners at their disposal.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We're hearing job might end up playing this weekend.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
So that matchup in particular, those two special smart physical
receivers against the Seahawks secondary.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, okay, so both for Poka Nikuah he has seventy
nine targets, Davante Adams seventy eight. Then you go all
the way down to Kiro and Williams the running back
at twenty nine. All right, so they're and Tyler Higbee
at twenty eight. So those two receivers are the dudes, right,
and both of them they have by far the most
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amount of yards on in routes Nicoua one hundred and
sixty five yards on inbreaking routes remember that when you
watch the game DeVante Adams one hundred and fifty three,
that's about fifty percent or more next to the closest.
And then the other one is just the hits routes.
Nikua just going up five yards stopping and then it's like, Okay,
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he's really strong, you got it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You gotta tackle. But on those.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Inbreaking routes, it makes sense because they like to have
squeeze formations. So think of Nikua and DeVante Adams close
relatively close, not by out by the sideline, but closer
to the ball that that is inside what's called the
divider for the corner, where the corner says, well, if
you get tight enough, and it depends on what hashi
are in middle of the field and what happens. So
I'm not going to give in the nuances of the divider,
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but basically the corners then they say, well, I'm going
to be an outside leverage because you're so tight to
the ball. Well, when you're an outside leverage, you're you're
susceptible to the inbreaking route. Now there's a component to
that that all ties together. All these things that I'm
discussing are all tied together. Schematically because after all this
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this segment called x's and o's. So when you look
at Matthew Stafford's splits, there are seven coverages that and
I'm not going to go into all there's seven coverages
where he has at least five dropbacks. Okay, In all
seven of those coverages, his passer rating is over one hundred,
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except for one it's called Cover four, and his passer
rating is only fifty eight point eight. In fact, out
of thirty three qualifying quarterbacks. Sam Darnold is excuse me,
Matthew Stafford is dead last thirty three out of thirty
three in against Cover four. And so I went and
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watched the tape I was able to filter. I watched
the coach's copy tape of Cover four. What's the problem
with him? What Cover four is? You got the two states,
there's four deep. As the name implies, there's only three
guys underneath. The three guys underneath, I'm close to the
line of skimmers. They have to play man concepts within
his own because there's only three guys underneath. You can't
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just dropped to a spot because the holes will be
too big. So you're kind of playing man underneath. But
on all those inbreaking routes. What did I say that
top routes were by Nikkou and Adams, they're inbreaking routes. Well,
if you have the two safeties sitting there robbing on
those in breaking routes, used the stafford, hold the ball
and what have you. So now I'm they say, okay,
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do Seattle play cover four? Well, they they had played
at fourteen percent of the time, which is sixth. That's
sixteenth in the league. So they're dead averaging their their frequency.
Unfortunately for Seattle, that's been their worst coverage by passer rating.
So Mike, you know, you know, this is the type
of things that happened during the week where you know,
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at eleven o'clock at night, when Mike McDonald's got a
you know, a toddler at home, he's still in the
building and he's asking questions like this, Hey, how much
cover forward?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
How do we feel about this?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And if we played dime and so so if we
play dime in a longer artist situation, we can get
we can get emon worry on on one side. And
as they said, underneath coverage, he's got to you gotta
kind of play man concerts within his own, I can
get Witherspoon, Okay, I love that matchup. Now I can
get Josh Job and I can get Riek Woolen as
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my corners. And then I wish I had Julian Love.
But Tyocott has been playing great and Kobe Bryant's just
been solid as hell too, and and so now we
can get into a cover four and we got dudes everywhere,
and hopefully Earn Stones. He'd be the mic in that situation.
And and you know, you'd have what's called the number
three receiver counting outside in on the three receiver side,
so he's got to be in covered, so that knee
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would be a question. But all of this stuff is
is kind of you know, stuff that you wonder, but
but that would be a fact you asked me how
you might defend Matthew Stafford. That's something that's really pivotal
based on on those tendencies.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Hugh Tory Horton didn't practice yesterday, so he's presumably, I
would think probably out. Is this a week where you
think they'll implement rashid shaheat and could he be a
factor and in it maybe going deep or does he
at least take the top off to where it opens
up the guys underneath.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Great question.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
For me to give an answer would be just talking
out of my ass because we haven't seen Shahet other
than a in a blowout where you know it's twenty
one nothing in the first quarter, So don't we didn't
know how how we don't. I don't know the cohesion
that he's established with with Darnold. So here's what I
saw from seating. They gave him the ball on an
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end around. You can see the bursts. He looks good.
He's wearing those highlight pen green shoes. Keep wearing those
because you look faster. And when you look faster, the
defenders kind of go, WHOA, what's this heat coming out
of me? They get out of their back pedal. That
that declares for the defense. So I like that it's
not just style. And and then now presumably he may
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have to take on a bigger role. I don't think
he's you know, when you consider his closing ability on
deep balls, the ability to actually track and catch the ball,
he's not He's not at Jsn's level by a long shot,
but he's faster, and so if he gets by a guy,
you know, I don't think he's gonna be as good
catching a contested ball. But if he has separation, throw
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it to him and then kick a pat let's do it.
So I short answer, I don't really know. I know
his speed does stretch the defense and it is a
prominent And if you're playing man and man, you better
have a guy who's fast enough or at least strong
enough to jam him at the line of scrimmage and
impede his free access.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I kind of like the idea of like some dry
ice in his uniform, so it looks like he is
smoking down the field if you're saying it matters, like yeah,
if you look faster, like this guy's so fast he's
smoking out of the back.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It works on a biplane in those air shows. Why
can't it work for seed man? It's like all of
a sudden, the DB's are going, WHOA, get out of
your back.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Beat'll let the snap of the ball.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, I can't wait till Monday morning to break all
of this down with you. This is gonna be one
hell of a football game Sunday, mister.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Millan, Oh is it? I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And you know there's there's other matchups we didn't get to.
But I you know, I don't know if you guys
are biting with me on it sounds like you and
I don't quite agree on what this means means for darnold,
Oh you know what I got to mention this can
I please give me a time here because I got
these notes. I got to get to this outside zone.
That's the Seahawks. We've heard all summer outside zone. Canine, dude,
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this guy is he He has five point five yards
per attempt on outside zone. Zach Zach Sarvona only has
three point six. They're almost too two yards separating. I
know that we've been nursing your foot, and and and
Greg has been telling us like like, hey, we're doing
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load management. We got bringing an NBA experts to tell
us the backup. No, Canine, you you are the you
forget that you gotta go. It's time to go. You
gotta get hard in the paint when you're going inside
against those dime UH personnel groupings by the Rams because
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they're number one in the NFL and dime you gotta
go hard. And if you're getting an outside zone, you
gotta keep playing. The PFF ranks ranks UH Canine as
number two when just by grade, but just their their subjective.
These number two in the outside zone. That's the Seahawks
bread and Butter is the outside zone. He's two yards
ahead of sharpnet Canine. Don't go out of bounce, uh,
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you know, fight for every yard. Show the physicality, like
like I'm tired of this guy's, you know, one of
the top twelve most talented guys on the football field.
He's got to show up and I don't want to
hear about load manager. Grab that outside zone and go
run somebody over. Yeah, love it all right, Thank.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You, Sarah. We appreciate it.
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Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yes, coach Home ran every Friday at this time.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Good morning, coach, Good morning guys. How's it going?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You excited for your Sunday? You excited for this game?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
You know what I am? Now. We watched some games
this year that have been kind of over at halftime,
are not so exciting. This one promises to be special.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I think what do you do as a coach? I mean,
it's midway through the season. It's not make or break,
it's not like the division is on the line. Do
you just let the and trust that the players know
that this is a more important game than most of
the games, or do you start the week off by
reminding him I will I want this game, we you
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need this game. How do you approach this as a
head coach?
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Well, for me, it's probably somewhere in between. I think
the players do know what's at stake. It's a great
rivalry anyway, just off the top. But then you have
to they have to know how you feel about this
game as their coach. And so anytime I came into
a game like this, I would probably start my Monday
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meetings talking about exactly that how important this game is.
You know, everyone, Look, every game is important. I understand that,
but this one, let's get after it. You know. It
was just something like that, and then then I don't
think you have to dwell on it too much during
the week.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Intensity shouldn't be an issue, right, You're always going whenever
you go up against a division foe, but then when
you're tied at the top of the division, then it
kind of pumps up a little bit. So how do
you make sure that they understand the importance and yet
also keeping it calm enough to where you're paying attention
to details and not shooting yourself on the foot.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, I think you do exactly what you just said. Buck.
You talk about the importance of the game, and they
have to see you're a change in you. You know,
I've talked to you guys before that whenever I played
against the team or coached against the team that I
previously had worked for, the players said I changed. I
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was different that week. I didn't. I wasn't sure how
I was different, but they sensed it. So if the players,
if you can convey that to the players yet at
the same time. To your point, Listen, we still have
to tackle, we still have to block, we have to
do the basic things, no turnovers, and just like any
other game. But they know and you've got to convey
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that somehow, you.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Know, speaking of former teams, asked us of Greg earlier,
I would get a ear perspective on this.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I would imagine most of.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
The time, when you had, like a player who played
on the team that you're getting ready to go against,
you probably didn't seek out their advice.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's that would be my guess.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You're probably not going to go ask the punter, hey,
what makes Matt Stafford tick just because he used to
play with him. But when you've got two guys as
sharp as Cooper Cup and Ernest Jones, I mean, the
middle of their defense two years ago and arguably their
best player just too, you know, two years ago, and
certainly both cerebral players, how much do you tap into
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how much they know about their former teammates.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
You absolutely tap in, particularly what guys like you mentioned,
you know, who are you know who know the game?
Who you can see that in their play for you?
And yeah, you talk to them what bothers them? What?
What what helps them? What what what should we do
in this situation? What can we expect on offense in
this situation? I remember one time we had we got
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Reggie White and Green Bay from Philly or he was
a free agent, and then so I sat him down.
We're we're playing the Eagles, and I sat him down
at lunch and I said, hey, tell me about it
the defensive calls, you know, tell me about well how
they call their defenses. And he goes, well, they call
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it blue or red. I said, okay, what is blooming?
Blue means I played the run. Red means I'm unleashed
and I can rush the passer. I said, is that it? Yeah,
that's pretty much it. So that was a lunchtime that
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didn't didn't mount too much. But you know so, but
you would ask guys, absolutely, you would ask guys.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Coach if Mike McDonald or Clinton Kobiak had called you in,
and maybe they did, I mean, if they're smart, they
would and they said, you know, we want you to
give Sam one pointer, Donald, to give one pointer of
what he needs to be cautious of or make sure
that he does correctly.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What would that.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
One thing be that he needs to be on top
of it.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
As far as his game goes this weekend.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Well, I would I would just say, don't don't press.
You know, we just talked about how important this game
is and he knows that. And you know a lot
of comparisons are made between Stafford and Donald this week.
But you know, I just play. Just do what you've
been doing, you know, and be careful when you get
in the red zone. Don't press. Every play is not there.
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We hope it's there, but every play is not there.
So be smart and then you know, and then but
then play the game, but try and avoid anything any
crazy throws. Be smart.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Now when you are Mike McDonald and you're known for
being a defensive specialist, and now you're going up against
this guy here who's known for his offensive mind, and
you got a good year and a half in so
now you can't call yourself a rookie anymore. Like you
want to match wits with this guy. Are those things
that you used to embrace that you would do differently,
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like when you would face Buddy Ryan. How much different
was your prep in getting ready for that game?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh, it absolutely was different because Buddy Ryan's defenses were
unique at the time. And I remember telling our guys
with the forty nine ers as an example, okay, and
they run around and they do stuff, and they you know,
just instead of our normal progression reads, just throw to
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the first guy who's open. Just don't worry about the
second ords. Just go to the first guy who's open.
And that seemed to work better against his teams. Now
that's the only time we did that. Otherwise, you know,
we were pretty buttoned down. And I tried to do
that with our passing game every place I've been, but
against teams that really try and do a lot of
stuff to confuse you, you have to simplify what you're
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telling the quarterback for that game.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Does McVeigh, I mean, what do you think of him
as an offensive play caller? Is he as good as
there is out there?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I think he is, juck, I really do. I think
you know, he's aggressive. But you know, and I told
you before I had a chance to interview him provide
the Super Bowl when I worked that game, and he
was just excited, young. He was really fun and very
impressive young guy. And of course his record has proven
that he's done very well. Now I would say this
(25:33):
and also in any situation It kind of helped me
when I had Joe Montana. It kind of helped me
look pretty good. And so you know, he's got Matthew Stafford,
and so I don't think there are any restrictions. He
just has to you know, he can do whatever he
feels the quarterback has to do because he has the
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guy that can do it.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
My guess is, you tell me that offensive genius will
always top defensive genius. But tell me at least lie
to me that Sunday it's going to be different.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I can't lie to you. I really can't. You know,
if you're an offensive genius. You know, look at look
what I just told you about the greatest defensive lineman
in history of football blue and red, you know, And
I remember, do you remember a guy named.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Jim Burt Oh, yeah, from the Giants.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Nose tackle for the Giants. Really a good player, I said,
tell me about playing nose tackle. He goes, well, I
either hit him straight in the nose or I go
to the right or go to the left. I go
that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
So that's your defensive prep for the week.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, all right, understood, understood, Well, have a great weekend.
We look forward to breaking it down with you on Monday.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Okay, guys, you too, all right, Mike.
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It's waiting for the very end, Like you're benched again.
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You know what?
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I'll have that stuck.
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Al Right, maybe I've just been getting too fired up
for this game on Sunday. Maybe I need to take
it down a notch, A pretty run on the mill
game on Sunday and Los Angeles, A couple of good coaches,
I guess, a couple of quarterbacks that are kind of
I suppose it's time to break it down with our
QB one. Hugh Millan is with us here on Chuck
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and Buck in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
For some x's and o's. Damn that, Hugh, this is awesome.
Let's go. This is awesome. I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's it's just a you know, it's like a mid
term in in a college class where you know, grades
pretty high. It's not as high as the final, but
it does give you pause to say, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Where am I at this? And and so I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Wait, you know, if if Ashley will give the permission,
if I can be a little bit stereotypically sexist, but
only with Ashley's permission, Actually, are we good with that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Just for a moment? Can I can I delve into
those waters like.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, well, we're gonna have some friends over and and
I think like the dudes are going to be just
looking at the matchup things, this incredible matchup between Mike
McDonald and Sean McVay. Right, the chicks who are more
drawn to the personal stories are going to be looking
at Sam Donald. Sam Donald is the number one person
(02:00):
involved in this game in my opinion, because if if
Matthew Stafford has a bad game, nobody's gonna, you know,
nobody's gonna make any referendums on Matthew Stafford if he
has a bad game. Even if Mike McDonald, you know,
if the defense kind of gets lits up, lit up,
people aren't gonna say, well, Mike McDonald forgot how to coach,
you know. But if Sam Donald has a poor game,
(02:24):
there's just a lot more riding on it for him
than anybody else involved because of the nature of the
perceived collapse by him last year. He's you know, he's
getting hounded on by the local media, the national media,
the and pre production meetings that are taking place today.
They'll be asking about it. So he's gonna be reminded
(02:45):
about that nine sack performance and and and the end
of the season for the Vikings last year. So I
just think there's a human interest side with Sam Donald
that exceeds all others based on you know, just hey,
this is one of the reason we love sports. This
is why in the Olympics, you know, when when it
comes down to the team Olympics and and one of
(03:08):
those gals gotta sprint down the and do like nine
tumbles and five somersaults in the air and she's got
to land it, and just the pressure and maybe you
don't even know what gymnastic is like me, but you know,
there's pressure. And to watch that little gal just stick
that landing, you get chills, you know, because of that's
(03:30):
what sports is.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And so Sam Donald has got some of that going
on this Sunday.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And so in an event, you know, there's just wonderful
storylines that's a big one, not just for the chicks,
the dudes will be taken note of that as well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, that's I see.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's a little bit interesting because I kind of mocked that,
Like ESPN had this headline across the front screen saying,
what's at steak for Sam Donald?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I kind of mocked it earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
My thought was, I don't think there's anything at steak
for Sam Donald. If he wins, they're a game up
in the standings. If he loses, there a game down
in the standings. I don't think we get to the
end of this and the narrative becomes, oh, Sam Darnold
might not be able to beat the Rams.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I just don't think it goes there.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But you know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe maybe it is
bigger than I was given it credit for.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, now we're getting the hypothetical, Okay, in that scenario,
if he were to have a bad game, that we
know that people, you know that all the talking heads
on Monday are going to be ripping him, then my
my response would be, in that scenario, how how tough
is he mentally?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's just as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Uh, you know, I can remember the the uh, the
pep talks we used to get from Jimmy Johnson when
I was with the Cowboys. He majored in industrial psychology.
I don't know what the industrial tag to that is,
but but he was. He was very good in in
how to present his messaging and he and he just
just say, hey, emotionally, we are not a roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We are not up and down.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know, at the uh, you know, at the whim
of whatever people say about us, we are either mentally
tough or we're not. And you know, a major challenge. So,
you know, I think that that, you know, the Jimmy
Johnson would have a component would have to be present
for Sam Darnold in the event that you were to
have a poor game. Obviously we're looking for all the
(05:18):
reasons why he won't, but I think that he would
be uniquely challenged in ways that the other principles in
this game are not.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, do you is there anything in particular that your
mind goes to when it comes to divisional games? It
always seems like they're tougher, right, you play him twice
a year. I don't know if you draft necessarily trying
to combat your division foes, but your main goal is
to win the division, and so you've got to go
through those guys.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You just the familiarity with it.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
What is it in particular that that you think, especially
going into like this week for example, two good teams
buying for that number one spot that goes into divisional
matchups that make them tougher, And why it is like that, Well.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think sometimes there are division games where you just
don't kind of like the other team. I know, when
I'll reference Jimmy Johnson again, he hated the Eagles, and
I remember he comes out at the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We're beating you know, Troit Mean's.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
The quarterback obviously, and he comes over the sideline and
Jimmy says, hey, I want you to take We've got
the we're up by two touchdowns. Just want you to
take three knees and on fourth down, we're gonna start
to take a knee and then throw it deep and
and and Troy is like, he kind of looks at me,
rolls like what So he goes out and you can
(06:36):
see him. He goes up on first down. And by
the way, the play by play can back this up
if you look at the play by play for that game. Uh,
he goes up and you can see he's talking to
the Eagles, and so so he takes a knee on
first down, huddle, taking THEE on second, taking thee on third.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Then on fourth down.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He throws a pass, but not up the sideline like
Jimmy had told him to do. He throws a cral route,
which which with the receiver coming back to the line
of scrimmage. Uh and uh to Alvin Harper, get a
nice game, but Alvin's tackled and blah blah blah, and
and so the so the game's over and and Troy's
(07:13):
walking by, and I'm like, is Jimmy gonna get mad
at him for not throwing the go route. Well, Jimmy
Johnson had the sense to uh to not say anything.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And so I asked try.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I said, what what had you said to the Eagles
at the line of scrimmage? He said, I told them,
I said, listen, this is Troy at the line of scrimmage.
Tell talking to the Eagle defense. We're gonna take a
knee on first and second and third down, but I'm
gonna throw it on fourth down, he warned them. And
so he said, he goes, I'm not getting involved with Uh.
(07:46):
You know Jimmy's you know vendettas he is, you know
these we got to play these.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Guys twice a year. You know, I'm getting smacked. And
and that had.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Stemmed from a time when Buddy Ryan was the quarterback
when he had excuse me, the coach obviously, and he
had done that, he had Randall Cunning and Hm take
a few knees and then throw a bomb. Uh in
that possession, which is is just breaks all conventions of
you know, the rules.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean Bucky in baseball.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I mean what I like, if this was baseball, Jimmy
Johnson or or Buddy Buddy Ryan should get a you know,
a fastball in the ninety nine miles an hour in
the lungs, you know, like like will self poleaf that crap.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So at any event, there's a lot to talk about
the S game. Sorry for that that diversion. But but
but the point is with with the uh, with with
the divisional games, sometimes it's heated. I don't get the
sense that that there's that hatred here. I think there's
just respect for two great teams here.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Melanis we that's X's and O's. Every Friday brought to
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the mountain turns blue at forty two degrees. Yeah, there
are a lot of things to discuss with this matchup,
especially this coaching matchup, if I can be specific. I'm curious,
and I know you've given it thought how McVeigh would
(09:07):
use Nikuah and Adams and how McDonald would try to
defend them against, you know, with the weapon of emon
Wori and possibly having all of their corners at their disposal.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We're hearing job might end up playing this weekend.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
So that matchup in particular, those two special smart physical
receivers against the Seahawks secondary.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, okay, so both for Poka Nikuah he has seventy
nine targets, Davante Adams seventy eight. Then you go all
the way down to Kiro and Williams the running back
at twenty nine. All right, so they're and Tyler Higbee
at twenty eight. So those two receivers are the dudes, right,
and both of them they have by far the most
(09:51):
amount of yards on in routes Nicoua one hundred and
sixty five yards on inbreaking routes remember that when you
watch the game DeVante Adams one hundred and fifty three,
that's about fifty percent or more next to the closest.
And then the other one is just the hits routes.
Nikua just going up five yards stopping and then it's like, Okay,
(10:11):
he's really strong, you got it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You gotta tackle. But on those.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Inbreaking routes, it makes sense because they like to have
squeeze formations. So think of Nikua and DeVante Adams close
relatively close, not by out by the sideline, but closer
to the ball that that is inside what's called the
divider for the corner, where the corner says, well, if
you get tight enough, and it depends on what hashi
are in middle of the field and what happens. So
I'm not going to give in the nuances of the divider,
(10:37):
but basically the corners then they say, well, I'm going
to be an outside leverage because you're so tight to
the ball. Well, when you're an outside leverage, you're you're
susceptible to the inbreaking route. Now there's a component to
that that all ties together. All these things that I'm
discussing are all tied together. Schematically because after all this
(10:57):
this segment called x's and o's. So when you look
at Matthew Stafford's splits, there are seven coverages that and
I'm not going to go into all there's seven coverages
where he has at least five dropbacks. Okay, In all
seven of those coverages, his passer rating is over one hundred,
(11:18):
except for one it's called Cover four, and his passer
rating is only fifty eight point eight. In fact, out
of thirty three qualifying quarterbacks. Sam Darnold is excuse me,
Matthew Stafford is dead last thirty three out of thirty
three in against Cover four. And so I went and
(11:38):
watched the tape I was able to filter. I watched
the coach's copy tape of Cover four. What's the problem
with him? What Cover four is? You got the two states,
there's four deep. As the name implies, there's only three
guys underneath. The three guys underneath, I'm close to the
line of skimmers. They have to play man concepts within
his own because there's only three guys underneath. You can't
(12:00):
just dropped to a spot because the holes will be
too big. So you're kind of playing man underneath. But
on all those inbreaking routes. What did I say that
top routes were by Nikkou and Adams, they're inbreaking routes. Well,
if you have the two safeties sitting there robbing on
those in breaking routes, used the stafford, hold the ball
and what have you. So now I'm they say, okay,
(12:22):
do Seattle play cover four? Well, they they had played
at fourteen percent of the time, which is sixth. That's
sixteenth in the league. So they're dead averaging their their frequency.
Unfortunately for Seattle, that's been their worst coverage by passer rating.
So Mike, you know, you know, this is the type
of things that happened during the week where you know,
(12:43):
at eleven o'clock at night, when Mike McDonald's got a
you know, a toddler at home, he's still in the
building and he's asking questions like this, Hey, how much
cover forward?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
How do we feel about this?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And if we played dime and so so if we
play dime in a longer artist situation, we can get
we can get emon worry on on one side. And
as they said, underneath coverage, he's got to you gotta
kind of play man concerts within his own, I can
get Witherspoon, Okay, I love that matchup. Now I can
get Josh Job and I can get Riek Woolen as
(13:17):
my corners. And then I wish I had Julian Love.
But Tyocott has been playing great and Kobe Bryant's just
been solid as hell too, and and so now we
can get into a cover four and we got dudes everywhere,
and hopefully Earn Stones. He'd be the mic in that situation.
And and you know, you'd have what's called the number
three receiver counting outside in on the three receiver side,
so he's got to be in covered, so that knee
(13:38):
would be a question. But all of this stuff is
is kind of you know, stuff that you wonder, but
but that would be a fact you asked me how
you might defend Matthew Stafford. That's something that's really pivotal
based on on those tendencies.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Hugh Tory Horton didn't practice yesterday, so he's presumably, I
would think probably out. Is this a week where you
think they'll implement rashid shaheat and could he be a
factor and in it maybe going deep or does he
at least take the top off to where it opens
up the guys underneath.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Great question.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
For me to give an answer would be just talking
out of my ass because we haven't seen Shahet other
than a in a blowout where you know it's twenty
one nothing in the first quarter, So don't we didn't
know how how we don't. I don't know the cohesion
that he's established with with Darnold. So here's what I
saw from seating. They gave him the ball on an
(14:34):
end around. You can see the bursts. He looks good.
He's wearing those highlight pen green shoes. Keep wearing those
because you look faster. And when you look faster, the
defenders kind of go, WHOA, what's this heat coming out
of me? They get out of their back pedal. That
that declares for the defense. So I like that it's
not just style. And and then now presumably he may
(14:58):
have to take on a bigger role. I don't think
he's you know, when you consider his closing ability on
deep balls, the ability to actually track and catch the ball,
he's not He's not at Jsn's level by a long shot,
but he's faster, and so if he gets by a guy,
you know, I don't think he's gonna be as good
catching a contested ball. But if he has separation, throw
(15:19):
it to him and then kick a pat let's do it.
So I short answer, I don't really know. I know
his speed does stretch the defense and it is a
prominent And if you're playing man and man, you better
have a guy who's fast enough or at least strong
enough to jam him at the line of scrimmage and
impede his free access.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I kind of like the idea of like some dry
ice in his uniform, so it looks like he is
smoking down the field if you're saying it matters, like yeah,
if you look faster, like this guy's so fast he's
smoking out of the back.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It works on a biplane in those air shows. Why
can't it work for seed man? It's like all of
a sudden, the DB's are going, WHOA, get out of
your back.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Beat'll let the snap of the ball.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, I can't wait till Monday morning to break all
of this down with you. This is gonna be one
hell of a football game Sunday, mister.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Millan, Oh is it? I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And you know there's there's other matchups we didn't get to.
But I you know, I don't know if you guys
are biting with me on it sounds like you and
I don't quite agree on what this means means for darnold,
Oh you know what I got to mention this can
I please give me a time here because I got
these notes. I got to get to this outside zone.
That's the Seahawks. We've heard all summer outside zone. Canine, dude,
(16:36):
this guy is he He has five point five yards
per attempt on outside zone. Zach Zach Sarvona only has
three point six. They're almost too two yards separating. I
know that we've been nursing your foot, and and and
Greg has been telling us like like, hey, we're doing
(16:57):
load management. We got bringing an NBA experts to tell
us the backup. No, Canine, you you are the you
forget that you gotta go. It's time to go. You
gotta get hard in the paint when you're going inside
against those dime UH personnel groupings by the Rams because
(17:17):
they're number one in the NFL and dime you gotta
go hard. And if you're getting an outside zone, you
gotta keep playing. The PFF ranks ranks UH Canine as
number two when just by grade, but just their their subjective.
These number two in the outside zone. That's the Seahawks
bread and Butter is the outside zone. He's two yards
ahead of sharpnet Canine. Don't go out of bounce, uh,
(17:41):
you know, fight for every yard. Show the physicality, like
like I'm tired of this guy's, you know, one of
the top twelve most talented guys on the football field.
He's got to show up and I don't want to
hear about load manager. Grab that outside zone and go
run somebody over. Yeah, love it all right, Thank.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You, Sarah. We appreciate it.
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Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yes, coach Home ran every Friday at this time.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Good morning, coach, Good morning guys. How's it going?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You excited for your Sunday? You excited for this game?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
You know what I am? Now. We watched some games
this year that have been kind of over at halftime,
are not so exciting. This one promises to be special.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I think what do you do as a coach? I mean,
it's midway through the season. It's not make or break,
it's not like the division is on the line. Do
you just let the and trust that the players know
that this is a more important game than most of
the games, or do you start the week off by
reminding him I will I want this game, we you
(19:18):
need this game. How do you approach this as a
head coach?
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Well, for me, it's probably somewhere in between. I think
the players do know what's at stake. It's a great
rivalry anyway, just off the top. But then you have
to they have to know how you feel about this
game as their coach. And so anytime I came into
a game like this, I would probably start my Monday
(19:44):
meetings talking about exactly that how important this game is.
You know, everyone, Look, every game is important. I understand that,
but this one, let's get after it. You know. It
was just something like that, and then then I don't
think you have to dwell on it too much during
the week.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Intensity shouldn't be an issue, right, You're always going whenever
you go up against a division foe, but then when
you're tied at the top of the division, then it
kind of pumps up a little bit. So how do
you make sure that they understand the importance and yet
also keeping it calm enough to where you're paying attention
to details and not shooting yourself on the foot.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, I think you do exactly what you just said. Buck.
You talk about the importance of the game, and they
have to see you're a change in you. You know,
I've talked to you guys before that whenever I played
against the team or coached against the team that I
previously had worked for, the players said I changed. I
(20:38):
was different that week. I didn't. I wasn't sure how
I was different, but they sensed it. So if the players,
if you can convey that to the players yet at
the same time. To your point, Listen, we still have
to tackle, we still have to block, we have to
do the basic things, no turnovers, and just like any
other game. But they know and you've got to convey
(20:59):
that somehow, you.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Know, speaking of former teams, asked us of Greg earlier,
I would get a ear perspective on this.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I would imagine most of.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
The time, when you had, like a player who played
on the team that you're getting ready to go against,
you probably didn't seek out their advice.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's that would be my guess.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You're probably not going to go ask the punter, hey,
what makes Matt Stafford tick just because he used to
play with him. But when you've got two guys as
sharp as Cooper Cup and Ernest Jones, I mean, the
middle of their defense two years ago and arguably their
best player just too, you know, two years ago, and
certainly both cerebral players, how much do you tap into
(21:42):
how much they know about their former teammates.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
You absolutely tap in, particularly what guys like you mentioned,
you know, who are you know who know the game?
Who you can see that in their play for you?
And yeah, you talk to them what bothers them? What?
What what helps them? What what what should we do
in this situation? What can we expect on offense in
this situation? I remember one time we had we got
(22:07):
Reggie White and Green Bay from Philly or he was
a free agent, and then so I sat him down.
We're we're playing the Eagles, and I sat him down
at lunch and I said, hey, tell me about it
the defensive calls, you know, tell me about well how
they call their defenses. And he goes, well, they call
(22:27):
it blue or red. I said, okay, what is blooming?
Blue means I played the run. Red means I'm unleashed
and I can rush the passer. I said, is that it? Yeah,
that's pretty much it. So that was a lunchtime that
(22:49):
didn't didn't mount too much. But you know so, but
you would ask guys, absolutely, you would ask guys.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Coach if Mike McDonald or Clinton Kobiak had called you in,
and maybe they did, I mean, if they're smart, they
would and they said, you know, we want you to
give Sam one pointer, Donald, to give one pointer of
what he needs to be cautious of or make sure
that he does correctly.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What would that.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
One thing be that he needs to be on top
of it.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
As far as his game goes this weekend.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Well, I would I would just say, don't don't press.
You know, we just talked about how important this game
is and he knows that. And you know a lot
of comparisons are made between Stafford and Donald this week.
But you know, I just play. Just do what you've
been doing, you know, and be careful when you get
in the red zone. Don't press. Every play is not there.
(23:39):
We hope it's there, but every play is not there.
So be smart and then you know, and then but
then play the game, but try and avoid anything any
crazy throws. Be smart.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Now when you are Mike McDonald and you're known for
being a defensive specialist, and now you're going up against
this guy here who's known for his offensive mind, and
you got a good year and a half in so
now you can't call yourself a rookie anymore. Like you
want to match wits with this guy. Are those things
that you used to embrace that you would do differently,
(24:12):
like when you would face Buddy Ryan. How much different
was your prep in getting ready for that game?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh, it absolutely was different because Buddy Ryan's defenses were
unique at the time. And I remember telling our guys
with the forty nine ers as an example, okay, and
they run around and they do stuff, and they you know,
just instead of our normal progression reads, just throw to
(24:39):
the first guy who's open. Just don't worry about the
second ords. Just go to the first guy who's open.
And that seemed to work better against his teams. Now
that's the only time we did that. Otherwise, you know,
we were pretty buttoned down. And I tried to do
that with our passing game every place I've been, but
against teams that really try and do a lot of
stuff to confuse you, you have to simplify what you're
(25:02):
telling the quarterback for that game.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Does McVeigh, I mean, what do you think of him
as an offensive play caller? Is he as good as
there is out there?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I think he is, juck, I really do. I think
you know, he's aggressive. But you know, and I told
you before I had a chance to interview him provide
the Super Bowl when I worked that game, and he
was just excited, young. He was really fun and very
impressive young guy. And of course his record has proven
that he's done very well. Now I would say this
(25:33):
and also in any situation It kind of helped me
when I had Joe Montana. It kind of helped me
look pretty good. And so you know, he's got Matthew Stafford,
and so I don't think there are any restrictions. He
just has to you know, he can do whatever he
feels the quarterback has to do because he has the
(25:54):
guy that can do it.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
My guess is, you tell me that offensive genius will
always top defensive genius. But tell me at least lie
to me that Sunday it's going to be different.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I can't lie to you. I really can't. You know,
if you're an offensive genius. You know, look at look
what I just told you about the greatest defensive lineman
in history of football blue and red, you know, And
I remember, do you remember a guy named.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Jim Burt Oh, yeah, from the Giants.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Nose tackle for the Giants. Really a good player, I said,
tell me about playing nose tackle. He goes, well, I
either hit him straight in the nose or I go
to the right or go to the left. I go
that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
So that's your defensive prep for the week.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, all right, understood, understood, Well, have a great weekend.
We look forward to breaking it down with you on Monday.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Okay, guys, you too, all right, Mike.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
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the fact that Russell Wilson was yet again demoted, yes,
moved down to the third string quarterback for the Giants.
Played a song that you remember hearing from Phil Collins
and we started talking about, well, wait a minute, did
he actually write that about Russell Wilson getting benched. Well,
(28:52):
I actually contacted Phil and the two of us did
a duet. Oh yeah, just for Russ for this moment.
So I thought we'd play it today and debut it. Okay,
world premiere.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
All right, I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
I don't know how Fill did that forty years ago,
but here you go, he predicted twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Russell's benching again.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's waiting for the very end, Like you're benched again.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Should have done that?
Speaker 6 (29:19):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
That's where I need you. Yeah, those moments, those moments.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
The good thing is is that the day after he
got benched, he came out and told the world he'd
be doing cameos.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah, I'm only charging three hundred and thirty three dollars
a cameo to give you motivational words. Oh, he's made
three hundred and fifteen million in his career.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
He needs to be in the like.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Just got in the center of attention. You just got
benched for Jameis Winston again again.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Yeah, that guy had crabs down his pants, crab legs
down his.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Pants, crabs in his pants.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
No, actually, crab legs. He stole crab legs and put
him down his pants. And now he's ahead of you.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
You're like, you know what, I think this is a
good time to let people know I'll only charge you
three hundred and thirty three dollars to.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Give you a video.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
In this economy, that's a steal.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well well done, Thank you. He's been benched again. Now
I'll have that stuck.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
In my head always, hope everybody does. That's yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
We will talk to you on Monday, coming up next
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