December 8, 2025 • 34 mins
MMQB with MIKE HOLMGREN & HUGH MILLEN We get Coach’s thoughts on the two very different halves of football yesterday. How real are halftime adjustments because they seemed to work in Atlanta! Have the Seahawks found their sweet-spot for targeting JSN? :30- MMQB with Coach and Hugh continues More praise for Nick Emmanwori! Riq Woolen does it again… how is he not learning his lesson? :45- We wrap up the show with one last thing for Coach.
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dot com. Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike Holmgrin
and Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hi Yes nine o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Mike Holmbren joins us here as we talk about yesterday's
thirty seven to nine win over the Atlanta Falcons. For
the Seahawks, they improved a ten and three on the year.
Score was tied coach at halftime six. That's six, boy ow,
things can change in the National Football League. I think
(01:14):
we saw two games yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, you know, because the first half, you it'd be
hard to believe that would be the score, you know,
but it was, and that can happen in the league.
But then they they really had an impressive second half.
And this team, and we've said it before, this team
(01:37):
is really good. They're good and so when you see
a first half like that, you go, oh, gee, what's there?
Is an away game, maybe they didn't sleep right, whatever,
But then they came out in the second half, we
saw the team that they are. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Actually, I wanted to talk about that because what's what
Bucky and I and Ashley talked about to start the
show was, boy, if that wasn't an illustration of a
team that the season's going well, where you do have
a few hiccups, but you figure out ways to overcome it,
figure it out in the four quarters, and then you know,
and then pull away. Where Atlanta is a bad team
(02:14):
and a bad way, probably with a coach who's on
his way out.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And man, every single good play they made got negated by.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
A penalty or stepping out of bounds or something. I mean,
it just to me was an illustration of a good
team having a good season in a good way a
bad team having a bad season that's.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
In a bad ways. That says it perfectly in my
opinion too. You know, Atlanta they have they've lost some
close games. Now, they've lost overtime games, They've lost some stuff,
but they haven't been able to get over the hump
that way. And then Pennis got hurt. So but yeah,
and the Seahawks have they are really put together well,
(02:56):
and I think the halftime adjustments that took place really
shows the difference kind of between the two teams. One
of the things, because I think Mike does a tremendous
job that way. Kubiak you know, is involved in that
as well. And the players, you know, they respond well,
they're having a great season. And you know, you look
(03:18):
if you project ahead or down the road. You know,
Indianapolis now you know they lost Jones, you know, I
mean it's they're gonna have finished with a very very
powerful record and it'll come down to a couple of
games the forty nine ers in the rams.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Mike, you mentioned the adjustments. What did you see that
that impressed you?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The first thing he and and again, this is something
we've talked about before, and I was a proponent of
figuring out ways to get in Jagma the ball. However,
in the first half, I thought that seemed to be
a point of emphasis, but it wasn't working the second half.
(04:03):
I think the adjustment. One of the adjustments they made.
They decided, okay, let's let's get the other people involved.
Let's let's and then that that in turn opened up
some things for Jigma in the second half. So that
was one thing. And then Shaheed to me that kickoff
return set the tone for the second half. And I'm
(04:26):
watching a poor uh special teams coach for Atlanta. I
think that was the guy on the sideline. He was
having a tough day. He was having a tough day,
and then the then the kicker kicks the ball out
of bounds. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff and
I'm going, oh, you know the yeah, the block field
field goal and they show him over there and he said, oh,
(04:48):
I wouldn't be I thought maybe today he might be
handed as bus ticket. You know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So, coach, how often is it like you come in
as an offensive minded guy and you're you're setting up
you know you're scripted plays and then basically how you
think you're going to attack your opponent, like what defense
you've seen on film. And so if all of a
sudden they're doing stuff that is to counteract that they
were maybe seeing one move ahead, like they're going to
(05:13):
try to do this, They're going to try do this,
They're going to go to JSN and force it in there.
If they have to, we'll double team him or bracket
him or do the cover six like he was talking
about earlier, Like how hard is it in the middle
of the first half to switch gears if all of
a sudden you realize they knew what game plan I
was coming with, or do you just have to kind
(05:34):
of try to stick with that game plan, hope it works,
and then make larger adjustments at halftime.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know what I think most people don't. I don't
think you should wait until halftime. If you see something
that's that repetitive in the first half, there's time, you know,
if you have the ball, you know, and I made
mistakes that way At times. I'd get mad during a game.
I know that surprises you, but I get that, And
(06:01):
then I'd say, you maybe seeing the thing on TV.
I'd say, we're not running the ball anymore, no more,
and everyone, all the other coaches on the go, Well, coach,
everyone shut up. We're not running the ball anymore. We're
gonna pass the ball every snap we can't run, and
then we'd make the adjustment, you know, and hopefully it worked.
(06:22):
I remember Hugh telling me this story, though, Hugh, I'll
let you tell the story. Okay, we played Jerry Glanville
in Atlanta. Yeah, you know, when I was with the
forty nine ers talking about adjustments.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, tell the story. Yeah, so it's in Atlanta. If
I get a detail wrong, Mike correct me, please. But
Joe Montana is the quarterback, Jerry Rice is is the
you know, in the prime of his career. I mean,
then forty nine ers are perring. They got Mike holmgrin,
I mean, just you know, playing things like a marionette puppet.
And we had I say, we I'm on the Falcons.
(06:57):
We had a cornerback by the name of Charles Dimri
and Jerry Glanville was the head coach of the Falcons
and he had this this this he was just everything
to him was just macho football. It was all macho football.
Doesn't have to be smart football as long as it's
tough and macho. So he was gonna buy Golly, he's
gonna blitz, and he's gonna play man. He's gonna blitz.
(07:17):
And he had Charles Dimrie was the game plan to
cover Jerry Rice and Uh, Montana had five touchdowns. Was
were four to Rice? For I know, I think he
I think Montana had six. Five of them were I
think got one. Yeah, okay, so he had five touchdowns
to Rice. And and he just kept doing the same
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thing and dim and and I was so close to
just walking down and just saying, Jerry, dim can't cover Rice.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Wait a minute, I thought you did that, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
No, no, no, no, no, I didn't. I know. Uh, well,
it makes for a better story. Let's just say it
like that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I went I went down and told the head coach
me as the backup quarterback. I said, hey, coach, you're
screwing this thing up.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, tell me tell me you're you're You're not for
real with this, Jerry. I got good news and bad news.
The good news is Jerry that Elvis is not yet
here to grab his ticket.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah. The bad news is dim recan't covered Rice. I
got to work on my embellishment game, as Mike points out,
So yes, you know, I just well cracked an egg
on on.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
But to Bucky's question, I think, yeah, yeah, if you
wait until halftime and you know what's happening after the
first quarter or the first quarter and a half, you're
waiting too long.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You know, you know what. You can make.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Adjustments at halftime because you have the team there, you
can make adjustments. But if you wait that long, I
think you're wasting time.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well let me ask you both, because I mean, yes,
they spread the started spreading the ball around a little
bit more and it seemed to unlock something. And yet JSN,
your number one receiver, still made the two big plays
on the drive that sort of got the offense in rhythm.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe they had started to get into rhythm in the
in the.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Late first half, but they really started to click in
the second half. Just chunk play after chunk play after
chunk play. So I mean, between coach and quarterback here
Holmgrin and Millen, what is the secret sweet spot for
that too? Yeah, we want to target JSN as much
(09:33):
as possible because he's our best playmaker. But if we
lock in on him too much. We're hurting JSN. Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You have the plays for JSN obviously, like I had
the place for Jerry Rice or Sterling Sharp or whatever.
And then you yeah, you go there, but you go
there when you think that play not necessarily the play,
that play will work against what they're doing. Then the
(10:05):
quarter it's up to the quarterback to make the decision.
And most of the time, if you if the play
is a good play for against that defense, then JSN
or whoever whomever, your number one guy is going to
see the ball more often. If you all of a
sudden focus and tell the quarterback we're calling this play.
That's who I want you to throw the ball to.
(10:27):
I think you make I think you make a little
mistake there. I really do you know you're calling a
play that has three or four options. They're going to
do different things on defense. You're teaching the quarterback to
make good decisions, and the guy will get his he'll
get his touches, he'll get his catches.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
In the third quarter, Chuck, you had the thirty yard
er by Jasn and then the twenty eight yard touchdown
on the first offensive drive. So so you know, there's
fifty eight yards of JSN receptions and and so what
happened on both of those plays it was man to
man what's called cover one with a safety in the
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middle of the field, and they were pressing the receivers.
So Jason was taking an inside release, which means when
he takes an inside release, then inbreaking routes are more
likely to win. So the first one that he runs
a deep what Mike would call a deep angle cross,
and again he got inside leverage on the corner, so
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that's gonna be a win for him. And then the
touchdown was some people call it a dig, some people
call it a dagger, but it's an intermediate inbreaking route.
And again with the corner to the outside, then he's
running away from him. And so both of those are
inbreaking routes. Now, had they been zone coverage and they
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rolled over the top, then Darnold's got an answer elsewhere.
But because it was man to man and no real
bride in that regard, then now it's green light to
number eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You know what he impresses me a number of things.
But then one thing in the game on that one
in breaking route, he was referencing he goes up, he
gets to the inside of the defender, and then his
his movement his first few steps away from the defender, Gimi,
he created a five yard There is no way that
(12:29):
that guy could cover him that way.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know, Well Cup did that on his touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That Cup touchdown, he look like how many Cup Rams
touchdowns we've seen in the past, where he just sort
of comes it looks like he's going to block. Then
all of a sudden just kind of does a pivot
to the outside and he's wide open out there. Well,
it's a man beater.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And you know what's interesting is he fit Mike in
the B gap between the guard and the tackle. He
and so he kind of goes up and then because
he had a reduced split to the receiver on that side.
So so Cup's gonna basically you're telling Cup go in
in the gap between Anthony Bradford and and Abe Lucas
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and then just break to the flat. But what the
key is is the receiver out there He's gonna might
have been Cody White, I'm not quite might have been
I gotta go back and look at uh, but he
he inside releases and that creates a pick on the
on the guys in man man and and so that
insert in the B gap kind of helped the spacing
(13:33):
and helped create the pick. So that's just beautiful scheming
that that that is target, right, Mike. I mean you're
the red zone master. That's just a you know, anticipating
the coverage and designing to play and executing and play
when you get the coverage.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It's really something and you just pray that Bradford and
what's the right tackle that they don't accidentally fall on
Cup or because they have to peel him off the field.
Does Bradford look like he's a little bigger? Yeah, yeah,
yeah made that comment. They are big guys now, so
(14:09):
but it was beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well, had it been a stunt, Mike, you know, if
Cup was trying, if he if he ran right into
the teeth of a te that's tackle ender e t
and tackle stunt, there would have been a criss cross
and he might have been hanged around by the big guys.
But you know what they they they either caught a
break or they knew a tendency. They weren't going to
get a stunt. But that B gap was just wide open.
(14:33):
It was exactly how they practiced it on Friday, right
Mike red Zone Day, and they that's how that's how
the scout team they gave him the look. That's the
look they wanted, and that's the look they got on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
And they had the right guy doing it, because I
think Cup is really he's a great player and very
smart and knows how to do that stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
How'd you like just overall the run game, I mean,
they didn't Ken Walker didn't really get off. Charboney had
that one big run. They had the youngster that Jones
kid came in. He looked crazy fast. But then again,
at that point, everything was working for the for the
Seahawks offensively.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Well, it seemed to me that they were pulling away
from the run first and we'll set up the pass
and all that. They went kind of the other way.
But you know, if you're going to give Atlanta any
credit at all, I thought they did a decent job,
particularly in the first half of kind of doing doing
(15:30):
a good job versus the run. But it they didn't
have a breakout game in the run. But Darnold in
the second half really lit it up. I thought, you know,
he he passed the ball very well. And that's how
they moved the football and listen. Depending on your philosophy
as a coach, you could be a run first coach
(15:51):
or a pass first coach. But when it comes to
calling the game, you're going to call what you think
is going to get you first downs, what's going to happen,
And that's the fun of calling a game, you know,
And so you can't be that predictable as a play caller.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think, Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I mean they feel like they play action passed now
almost every play.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, and we've had a conversation back in Week one,
like you play action passed one time and the entire game.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And so what lesson learned? I suppose.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And I thought Sam with his legs was very effective
at times, and he's got that athletic ability. I'd kind
of like to see that a little bit more. But
he scrambled his way out of danger and for productive
yardage yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, he shows. You don't expect it from him, but
he shows. I think he's pretty quick. He's pretty fast,
and he's not a little guy, you know. But yes,
that was an added part of it that led to
a real good functioning offense. In the second half.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Mike Homer and Hugh Millen Monday Morning Quarterback session will continue.
We got a lot more to discuss after the Seahawks
thirty seven nine went over the Falcons yesterday. A Sports
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Speaker 2 (17:08):
On third down pressure coms to the zone. It's Jackson
spit that jickbaw.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
For the second time today with a touchdown. I gotta
ask about something else, but maybe that's a good place
to start. Second segment here with coach and with a
Hugh Monday Morning quarterback rolls on. Seahawks went over the
Atlanta Falcons by a final score of thirty seven to
(17:34):
nine yesterday, pulling away in the second half, outscoring the
Falcons thirty one to three in that second half. You're
a big fan of the jump pass from a quarterback.
We had two successful ones yesterday, including a touchdown. Do
you like that idea of leaving your feet and throwing
the ball in the end zone?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You like that?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Coach?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Do I like it?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah? Do you like that?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Tim Tebow used to.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Do that a lot. Yeah, jump pass, Well, if you
know what it's like anything else, If it's a touchdown.
I liked it, you know, but generally speaking, no, keep
your feet on the ground.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Dude. You do a lot of jump passes in your career. Well,
if I had, you wouldn't have been able to know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Gravity had a particular effect on me. But but I
would say, you know what, mike it when I when
I coached youth in high school football, I would tell
our receivers I would put this in this category. I said, look,
we love one handed catches. We will celebrate that. We'll
have what we call it, We'll have a meeting in
the sky, will go chest bump and everything on one condition.
(18:37):
Yet you could not have got your second hand on it,
right and so and and so, I would say, jump pass.
If if if that's what your instincts tell you you
got to jump pass, Well, then tell me, could have
you not executed the play with your feet on the ground?
If the if the answer is no, you couldn't have,
(18:59):
and you make a play out of it, then beautiful that.
Uh so at anywate I see those in a similar
vein how about you?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah, I think you're right. But when I also wrote
down that on and we talked about Sam Darnold, interceptions.
Okay all season long, they you're good. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, no, no,
you know what you yelled at me. He yelled at me.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
No.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So but he on the interception, it was he rolled
out to his right, he turned, he's getting pressure. You
look down the field, everyone's covered, everyone's covered. And plus
it's a tough throw for a right handed quarterback. Now
he does it, yeah, he does it well. But when
he's rolling out, so he got to turn the shoulders.
And then that was one he should not have thrown.
(19:48):
That was one that we talked about before and and uh,
where your body, your body mechanics, your body is in
a bad position, and they were covered, and just a
bad decision to make to throw it. And so you know,
he's not doing that quite so much anymore. But I'd
like to see feet on the ground most of the time.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, Mike, what about let's go over the defense. Just
kind of blanket statement or blanket question. What really stood
out to you from what you saw on that side
of the ball.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, you know, their defense is really good, and in
the first half, Atlanta was actually doing some things that
kind of surprised me. I thought they got a great
running back and he got some yards rushing. Cousins completed
some balls, so it was it was a little different
in the first half. The front, the defensive front didn't
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dominate like they normally do when they start games or
in the first half. But what stuck out to me,
what has stuck out to me all season long and
now even more with each game they play, is their secondary.
You know. And I don't know if many of us
thought about Joe being the starting corner of the corner
out there. We knew about Witherspoon, but then Love came
(21:07):
back yesterday, but he hasn't been here. The guys that
filled in have done a really good job. But it's
hard to pass the ball against this team, it really is.
And if they get pressure, if they get pressure, it's
really hard. So uh but I would say that and
the linebackers, you know, Jones is just really good. But
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there's secondary is the thing that jumps out of me.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Hugh, what about Emon Worry?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Then?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I mean that guy is just filled up the statute yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, I kind of didn't talk about him because I
have trouble with those names sometimes sound yeah the big
can call no he he well he is remarkable in
many ways, size, all the all the measurables, and now
(22:00):
as he's learning, as he's learning kind of the system
and maybe not just rely on his physical attributes, but
play the system. You know, I think he's going to
be He's going to be mentioned for a long time.
He's really good player, really good. Yeah, and he's got
like sixteen different roles. It feels like on defense, I
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mean that's right. You're sitting there watching somebody that athletic
and can catch a bobbled the interception across the middle.
Are you thinking to yourself, Hey, Mike, I could use
him on offense too, since we're making him a jack
of all trades. No, and then his block on the
field goal. Yeah, I don't know how long his arm is.
He probably knows how long his arm is, but it
seemed like he was about four feet long when.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He came in there. Yeah, go go get is leaning?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah. Well, his span is eighty seven percentile for safeties
and and and his height as ninety first percentile, So
combine the two and he just you know, he's going
to have that extra like all the other corners who
were normally in that position. Mike it'd be like hand
him a a ping pong paddle or a racquetball racket
(23:08):
like like they just you know, a longer reach. But
but I mentioned corners in the first hour that that
are usually the guys that mann that because they can
turn that that corner. But amon worry obviously, in the
judgment of Mike McDonald and Harbor, the special teams coach said, hey,
this guy can turn the hoop on that too. That's
that's difficult to turn that radius the way he did.
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And so he had the the athleticism and the body
lean to be able to do it, but then the
length to be able to get the block.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know what I always anytime a field goal or
pat is blocked, I go back and look at what
the offensive line did and the guy whoever was on
the outside there that was, you know, was responsibility. I
think the block im and Uri it was it was
he kind of stuck out his arm and elbow out
(23:59):
a little bit. But that's not gonna work. It's not
gonna work. You got to block him. And so it
always surprises me a little bit that that is. We
talked about coaching. Okay, we talked about coaching and the
special teams coach under the gun. That guy didn't do
that right. He didn't do that right, and as a result,
a great athlete made the block.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, speaking great athletes, Riquell for like, the fifteenth game
in a row has gotten a taunting penalty, or at
least that feels like to me, is this a week,
you know, coming off a really impressive win where maybe
you're going to make a little example out of him
that why are you not learning your lesson? Why are
you doing this every single game? You're not allowed to
(24:45):
stand over people. You're playing good football right now again,
but you can't stand over your receiver and yell things
at them.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's the rule.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And then you act like you're such a victim afterwards,
like how could you possibly call that because it's been
called every single time you've done it this year. Is
this a good week to maybe teach Rica a little
hard lesson that we don't haunt, we don't take fifteen
yard penalties even when we're up twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
You know what, that's the thing that what if the
game was close? What if the game was closed? Now
we're up twenty eight, so we still won. The game
didn't have a huge effect on the game. But absolutely
you cannot do this. And so to answer your question, Chuck, yeah,
they should have done it, but they probably have had
I would guess they've had the conversation already, maybe more
(25:34):
than a couple times. But then how many times you've
talked to him about it before you do something a
little more dramatic? You know, Okay, you sit down for
a while because you're going to cost us and that's
not how we play. That's not how we coach, that's
not how we play. What's for a while now, that's
a good question, serio. I mean, you know that idea
(25:57):
about Okay, we're going to put him in. We're gonna
he's gonna miss two series. You see teams do that
you missed two? You know, he's who was it? Somebody?
Somebody's not getting to practice or he's asleep and he
gets late to meetings and stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Some team Cowboys that a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
I think Schottenheimer had to deal with that.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah, he had to deal with and so he he
doesn't start him, but he gets into the third series
or something like that. Uh, if it's something that you think,
you know, those types of slaps on the hand, either
do it or you don't. You yell at him, or
you talk to him, I should say, and he either
(26:37):
gets it or he doesn't. If he doesn't get it,
then maybe he might not get some other coaching things,
other teaching moments, and then you don't do it now.
But do you do something at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Mike Homer and Hughmellan, It's Monday Morning Quarterback. One more
segment to go. We have one last thing for coach.
On Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Our final segment,
final session here of Monday Morning Quarterback here today, Well,
(27:13):
not the final session, it's I have many more of these,
but final segment of today's session of Monday Morning Quarterback.
One last thing here for a coach. We go round
the room, Bucky, what do you got?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
What are you feeling when you're the coach and things
are rolling like they were yesterday in the second half.
Good team, bad team. I don't care. It's an NFL team.
You put up thirty plus points. I saw a stat
yesterday where that's the fourth time this season that the
Seahawks have had a thirty plus point half of football.
The entire NFL combined has six outside of them. So
(27:44):
when it's rolling like that, you know, what do you
feel like?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
So?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I feel like I don't.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Know what to play? I know they're all going to work.
I never felt that exactly, but that Super Bowl against
my Broncos, you didn't feel that. Well, that was different. Yeah,
I know I felt like you felt that A good
feeling there. Yeah, but no, it's it's a good feeling.
(28:09):
But it's like you do have that feeling. I can
dial up anything or just about anything, but then you
have to be smart with it. I mean, you can't
just get crazy and say, Okay, we're gonna pass, we're
gonna get all these yards, we're gonna do all this stuff.
You still have to stay in your rhythm. But to
say you don't you don't have that feeling like it's
(28:30):
going to work, you know. No, I'm I had those
feelings every once in a while though it's gonna work.
I remember one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hear
what you got.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well. I'm tempted to ask Mike about Andy and the Chiefs,
but I think the football world Mike is is talking
about what transpired in college football with and the selection committee,
Your b Yu Cougar's are are part of the controversy.
I think in a lot of people's eyes. Just do
you have a thought or two about what transpired Saturday
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and then yesterday with the selection committee I.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Heard now, I don't know. You can tell me if
this happened that when it came the selection committee got
a call from a former quarterback at Washington saying b
Yu did not deserve to be in this thing this year.
I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, I know that one that might have if given
the opportunity. Yeah, yeah, you might be tracking on something.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
No, but you know, I haven't followed it too much
other than the fact that the one thing that bothered
not bothered me. But I didn't quite understand I shouldn't
say that either. I kind of got it, but I
didn't agree with it. Was Alabama has three losses, don't they? Yeah, Okay,
so they to have a bunch of teams with a
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much better record or a better record not even come
close to making it, and have al Obama in there.
I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Really, Well, Alabama, they had the same Alabama had two losses,
but they played an extra game, right because they played
in the conference championship. But my whole argument, which is
a little different than Hughes, is that, Okay, if you
were head and shoulders above everybody else, then you can
afford that loss. But they made it very clear in
the selection process that the previous week Notre Dame's two
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loss season was better than Alabama's two loss season.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So how does our.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Third loss, even if they did get an extra game,
how does that not factor in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I would have kept Alabama out of it.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But you can imagine, you can just imagine. I've been
in meetings like that. You get into that meeting with group,
with those guys, and they're talking about maybe that very
thing is notre ed aime in fim open the discussion.
You have a lot of different opinions, and so someone
I don't really know how they come if there's one
man that finally decides, I don't know that. But anyway,
(31:00):
I said, you know, the SEC, what do they have
twenty five teams in the league? Yes, you know, I
mean he was you know, Well, then they got Howard
fine By him or whatever is what's his name?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Fi fine Ball?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Oh yeah, he wants to be the next coach of
the of the Cleveland Browns. You know, I mean, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Is there any oh, go ahead? I have no thoughts.
Is there anybody in this conversation who thinks that the
SEC is not the best conference when measured deep the
entire depth, not just the top two or three, because
I think the Big ten UH is easily just as good.
But I'm talking about five, ten, twelve teams deep. Is
(31:38):
there anybody who doesn't think that the SEC is the
number one conference in football?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I do.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I think that I do. Okay, I would say so too,
so so Alabama on the regular season as determined, as
structured by the SEC, the SEC, and you and a
hundred years from now, as they said earlier, you can
look up and Alabama as the regular season champion of
the SEC. I don't think that I want to have
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a twelve team I don't think it's fair to have
a twelve team tournament and the number one team for
an entire season in the toughest conference is left out
of a twelve team playoff. And so I know that says, well,
what if they lost seventeen to nothing? I know there's
some some tough questions that that would lead to. But
(32:28):
I did you know everybody else is sitting around, you know,
Notre Dame was watching UH and Texas or Texas A
and m was watching, and Ole Miss was watching Mike.
In pro football, you don't you try and win so
you get a buye college football's got it asked backwards.
You try and win so to give the other teams
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that are below you they get the buy. But you
got to play and then risk your chance of being
in the in the tournament. Look, I think there's great arguments, Mike,
Mike Chuck laid out a great argument and it has merit.
I just happened to, you know, be more persuaded by
the argument that Alabama shouldn't lose that opportunity given everything
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they accomplished and by the way, they had the number
one strength of schedule in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know, do you There's been a lot of talk
about this. It generates a lot of discussion. Are the
rules going to? Is there any way to change it?
So meah, some of them they already.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I mean the first year of the tournament was last year,
and there were some obvious things that needed to be changed,
and they changed them last offseason, and now they're going
to have to do it again. Yeah, and they're going
to be a couple of other obvious things are going
to have to be changed. But we're in the infancy
of this. It's like a two year old baby. And
we lived with a crap system for one hundred years
in college football that didn't even give the Washington Huskies
and Hugh mill and the chance to prove that they
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were better than Robbie Bosco and the BYU Cougar.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
So it's a much better system than that. I think
we can all agree about that.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I didn't bring that up intentionally because I don't want
my friend to have a bad lunch today or something.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, you guys, joke you think it's funny, right, Yeah,
that's good. No, just make make your jokes.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I know you for I know you've forgotten about this.
You it's it's over and done with you.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I can only tell you every single play of that
holiday boll All right.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
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and Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hi Yes nine o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Mike Holmbren joins us here as we talk about yesterday's
thirty seven to nine win over the Atlanta Falcons. For
the Seahawks, they improved a ten and three on the year.
Score was tied coach at halftime six. That's six, boy ow,
things can change in the National Football League. I think
(01:14):
we saw two games yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, you know, because the first half, you it'd be
hard to believe that would be the score, you know,
but it was, and that can happen in the league.
But then they they really had an impressive second half.
And this team, and we've said it before, this team
(01:37):
is really good. They're good and so when you see
a first half like that, you go, oh, gee, what's there?
Is an away game, maybe they didn't sleep right, whatever,
But then they came out in the second half, we
saw the team that they are. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Actually, I wanted to talk about that because what's what
Bucky and I and Ashley talked about to start the
show was, boy, if that wasn't an illustration of a
team that the season's going well, where you do have
a few hiccups, but you figure out ways to overcome it,
figure it out in the four quarters, and then you know,
and then pull away. Where Atlanta is a bad team
(02:14):
and a bad way, probably with a coach who's on
his way out.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And man, every single good play they made got negated by.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
A penalty or stepping out of bounds or something. I mean,
it just to me was an illustration of a good
team having a good season in a good way a
bad team having a bad season that's.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
In a bad ways. That says it perfectly in my
opinion too. You know, Atlanta they have they've lost some
close games. Now, they've lost overtime games, They've lost some stuff,
but they haven't been able to get over the hump
that way. And then Pennis got hurt. So but yeah,
and the Seahawks have they are really put together well,
(02:56):
and I think the halftime adjustments that took place really
shows the difference kind of between the two teams. One
of the things, because I think Mike does a tremendous
job that way. Kubiak you know, is involved in that
as well. And the players, you know, they respond well,
they're having a great season. And you know, you look
(03:18):
if you project ahead or down the road. You know,
Indianapolis now you know they lost Jones, you know, I
mean it's they're gonna have finished with a very very
powerful record and it'll come down to a couple of
games the forty nine ers in the rams.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Mike, you mentioned the adjustments. What did you see that
that impressed you?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The first thing he and and again, this is something
we've talked about before, and I was a proponent of
figuring out ways to get in Jagma the ball. However,
in the first half, I thought that seemed to be
a point of emphasis, but it wasn't working the second half.
(04:03):
I think the adjustment. One of the adjustments they made.
They decided, okay, let's let's get the other people involved.
Let's let's and then that that in turn opened up
some things for Jigma in the second half. So that
was one thing. And then Shaheed to me that kickoff
return set the tone for the second half. And I'm
(04:26):
watching a poor uh special teams coach for Atlanta. I
think that was the guy on the sideline. He was
having a tough day. He was having a tough day,
and then the then the kicker kicks the ball out
of bounds. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff and
I'm going, oh, you know the yeah, the block field
field goal and they show him over there and he said, oh,
(04:48):
I wouldn't be I thought maybe today he might be
handed as bus ticket. You know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So, coach, how often is it like you come in
as an offensive minded guy and you're you're setting up
you know you're scripted plays and then basically how you
think you're going to attack your opponent, like what defense
you've seen on film. And so if all of a
sudden they're doing stuff that is to counteract that they
were maybe seeing one move ahead, like they're going to
(05:13):
try to do this, They're going to try do this,
They're going to go to JSN and force it in there.
If they have to, we'll double team him or bracket
him or do the cover six like he was talking
about earlier, Like how hard is it in the middle
of the first half to switch gears if all of
a sudden you realize they knew what game plan I
was coming with, or do you just have to kind
(05:34):
of try to stick with that game plan, hope it works,
and then make larger adjustments at halftime.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know what I think most people don't. I don't
think you should wait until halftime. If you see something
that's that repetitive in the first half, there's time, you know,
if you have the ball, you know, and I made
mistakes that way At times. I'd get mad during a game.
I know that surprises you, but I get that, And
(06:01):
then I'd say, you maybe seeing the thing on TV.
I'd say, we're not running the ball anymore, no more,
and everyone, all the other coaches on the go, Well, coach,
everyone shut up. We're not running the ball anymore. We're
gonna pass the ball every snap we can't run, and
then we'd make the adjustment, you know, and hopefully it worked.
(06:22):
I remember Hugh telling me this story, though, Hugh, I'll
let you tell the story. Okay, we played Jerry Glanville
in Atlanta. Yeah, you know, when I was with the
forty nine ers talking about adjustments.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, tell the story. Yeah, so it's in Atlanta. If
I get a detail wrong, Mike correct me, please. But
Joe Montana is the quarterback, Jerry Rice is is the
you know, in the prime of his career. I mean,
then forty nine ers are perring. They got Mike holmgrin,
I mean, just you know, playing things like a marionette puppet.
And we had I say, we I'm on the Falcons.
(06:57):
We had a cornerback by the name of Charles Dimri
and Jerry Glanville was the head coach of the Falcons
and he had this this this he was just everything
to him was just macho football. It was all macho football.
Doesn't have to be smart football as long as it's
tough and macho. So he was gonna buy Golly, he's
gonna blitz, and he's gonna play man. He's gonna blitz.
(07:17):
And he had Charles Dimrie was the game plan to
cover Jerry Rice and Uh, Montana had five touchdowns. Was
were four to Rice? For I know, I think he
I think Montana had six. Five of them were I
think got one. Yeah, okay, so he had five touchdowns
to Rice. And and he just kept doing the same
(07:39):
thing and dim and and I was so close to
just walking down and just saying, Jerry, dim can't cover Rice.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Wait a minute, I thought you did that, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
No, no, no, no, no, I didn't. I know. Uh, well,
it makes for a better story. Let's just say it
like that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I went I went down and told the head coach
me as the backup quarterback. I said, hey, coach, you're
screwing this thing up.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, tell me tell me you're you're You're not for
real with this, Jerry. I got good news and bad news.
The good news is Jerry that Elvis is not yet
here to grab his ticket.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah. The bad news is dim recan't covered Rice. I
got to work on my embellishment game, as Mike points out,
So yes, you know, I just well cracked an egg
on on.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
But to Bucky's question, I think, yeah, yeah, if you
wait until halftime and you know what's happening after the
first quarter or the first quarter and a half, you're
waiting too long.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You know, you know what. You can make.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Adjustments at halftime because you have the team there, you
can make adjustments. But if you wait that long, I
think you're wasting time.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well let me ask you both, because I mean, yes,
they spread the started spreading the ball around a little
bit more and it seemed to unlock something. And yet JSN,
your number one receiver, still made the two big plays
on the drive that sort of got the offense in rhythm.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe they had started to get into rhythm in the
in the.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Late first half, but they really started to click in
the second half. Just chunk play after chunk play after
chunk play. So I mean, between coach and quarterback here
Holmgrin and Millen, what is the secret sweet spot for
that too? Yeah, we want to target JSN as much
(09:33):
as possible because he's our best playmaker. But if we
lock in on him too much. We're hurting JSN. Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You have the plays for JSN obviously, like I had
the place for Jerry Rice or Sterling Sharp or whatever.
And then you yeah, you go there, but you go
there when you think that play not necessarily the play,
that play will work against what they're doing. Then the
(10:05):
quarter it's up to the quarterback to make the decision.
And most of the time, if you if the play
is a good play for against that defense, then JSN
or whoever whomever, your number one guy is going to
see the ball more often. If you all of a
sudden focus and tell the quarterback we're calling this play.
That's who I want you to throw the ball to.
(10:27):
I think you make I think you make a little
mistake there. I really do you know you're calling a
play that has three or four options. They're going to
do different things on defense. You're teaching the quarterback to
make good decisions, and the guy will get his he'll
get his touches, he'll get his catches.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
In the third quarter, Chuck, you had the thirty yard
er by Jasn and then the twenty eight yard touchdown
on the first offensive drive. So so you know, there's
fifty eight yards of JSN receptions and and so what
happened on both of those plays it was man to
man what's called cover one with a safety in the
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middle of the field, and they were pressing the receivers.
So Jason was taking an inside release, which means when
he takes an inside release, then inbreaking routes are more
likely to win. So the first one that he runs
a deep what Mike would call a deep angle cross,
and again he got inside leverage on the corner, so
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that's gonna be a win for him. And then the
touchdown was some people call it a dig, some people
call it a dagger, but it's an intermediate inbreaking route.
And again with the corner to the outside, then he's
running away from him. And so both of those are
inbreaking routes. Now, had they been zone coverage and they
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rolled over the top, then Darnold's got an answer elsewhere.
But because it was man to man and no real
bride in that regard, then now it's green light to
number eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You know what he impresses me a number of things.
But then one thing in the game on that one
in breaking route, he was referencing he goes up, he
gets to the inside of the defender, and then his
his movement his first few steps away from the defender, Gimi,
he created a five yard There is no way that
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that guy could cover him that way.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know, Well Cup did that on his touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That Cup touchdown, he look like how many Cup Rams
touchdowns we've seen in the past, where he just sort
of comes it looks like he's going to block. Then
all of a sudden just kind of does a pivot
to the outside and he's wide open out there. Well,
it's a man beater.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And you know what's interesting is he fit Mike in
the B gap between the guard and the tackle. He
and so he kind of goes up and then because
he had a reduced split to the receiver on that side.
So so Cup's gonna basically you're telling Cup go in
in the gap between Anthony Bradford and and Abe Lucas
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and then just break to the flat. But what the
key is is the receiver out there He's gonna might
have been Cody White, I'm not quite might have been
I gotta go back and look at uh, but he
he inside releases and that creates a pick on the
on the guys in man man and and so that
insert in the B gap kind of helped the spacing
(13:33):
and helped create the pick. So that's just beautiful scheming
that that that is target, right, Mike. I mean you're
the red zone master. That's just a you know, anticipating
the coverage and designing to play and executing and play
when you get the coverage.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It's really something and you just pray that Bradford and
what's the right tackle that they don't accidentally fall on
Cup or because they have to peel him off the field.
Does Bradford look like he's a little bigger? Yeah, yeah,
yeah made that comment. They are big guys now, so
(14:09):
but it was beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well, had it been a stunt, Mike, you know, if
Cup was trying, if he if he ran right into
the teeth of a te that's tackle ender e t
and tackle stunt, there would have been a criss cross
and he might have been hanged around by the big guys.
But you know what they they they either caught a
break or they knew a tendency. They weren't going to
get a stunt. But that B gap was just wide open.
(14:33):
It was exactly how they practiced it on Friday, right
Mike red Zone Day, and they that's how that's how
the scout team they gave him the look. That's the
look they wanted, and that's the look they got on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
And they had the right guy doing it, because I
think Cup is really he's a great player and very
smart and knows how to do that stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
How'd you like just overall the run game, I mean,
they didn't Ken Walker didn't really get off. Charboney had
that one big run. They had the youngster that Jones
kid came in. He looked crazy fast. But then again,
at that point, everything was working for the for the
Seahawks offensively.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Well, it seemed to me that they were pulling away
from the run first and we'll set up the pass
and all that. They went kind of the other way.
But you know, if you're going to give Atlanta any
credit at all, I thought they did a decent job,
particularly in the first half of kind of doing doing
(15:30):
a good job versus the run. But it they didn't
have a breakout game in the run. But Darnold in
the second half really lit it up. I thought, you know,
he he passed the ball very well. And that's how
they moved the football and listen. Depending on your philosophy
as a coach, you could be a run first coach
(15:51):
or a pass first coach. But when it comes to
calling the game, you're going to call what you think
is going to get you first downs, what's going to happen,
And that's the fun of calling a game, you know,
And so you can't be that predictable as a play caller.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think, Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I mean they feel like they play action passed now
almost every play.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, and we've had a conversation back in Week one,
like you play action passed one time and the entire game.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And so what lesson learned? I suppose.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And I thought Sam with his legs was very effective
at times, and he's got that athletic ability. I'd kind
of like to see that a little bit more. But
he scrambled his way out of danger and for productive
yardage yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, he shows. You don't expect it from him, but
he shows. I think he's pretty quick. He's pretty fast,
and he's not a little guy, you know. But yes,
that was an added part of it that led to
a real good functioning offense. In the second half.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
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Speaker 2 (17:08):
On third down pressure coms to the zone. It's Jackson
spit that jickbaw.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
For the second time today with a touchdown. I gotta
ask about something else, but maybe that's a good place
to start. Second segment here with coach and with a
Hugh Monday Morning quarterback rolls on. Seahawks went over the
Atlanta Falcons by a final score of thirty seven to
(17:34):
nine yesterday, pulling away in the second half, outscoring the
Falcons thirty one to three in that second half. You're
a big fan of the jump pass from a quarterback.
We had two successful ones yesterday, including a touchdown. Do
you like that idea of leaving your feet and throwing
the ball in the end zone?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You like that?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Coach?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Do I like it?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah? Do you like that?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Tim Tebow used to.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Do that a lot. Yeah, jump pass, Well, if you
know what it's like anything else, If it's a touchdown.
I liked it, you know, but generally speaking, no, keep
your feet on the ground.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Dude. You do a lot of jump passes in your career. Well,
if I had, you wouldn't have been able to know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Gravity had a particular effect on me. But but I
would say, you know what, mike it when I when
I coached youth in high school football, I would tell
our receivers I would put this in this category. I said, look,
we love one handed catches. We will celebrate that. We'll
have what we call it, We'll have a meeting in
the sky, will go chest bump and everything on one condition.
(18:37):
Yet you could not have got your second hand on it,
right and so and and so, I would say, jump pass.
If if if that's what your instincts tell you you
got to jump pass, Well, then tell me, could have
you not executed the play with your feet on the ground?
If the if the answer is no, you couldn't have,
(18:59):
and you make a play out of it, then beautiful that.
Uh so at anywate I see those in a similar
vein how about you?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah, I think you're right. But when I also wrote
down that on and we talked about Sam Darnold, interceptions.
Okay all season long, they you're good. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, no, no,
you know what you yelled at me. He yelled at me.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
No.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So but he on the interception, it was he rolled
out to his right, he turned, he's getting pressure. You
look down the field, everyone's covered, everyone's covered. And plus
it's a tough throw for a right handed quarterback. Now
he does it, yeah, he does it well. But when
he's rolling out, so he got to turn the shoulders.
And then that was one he should not have thrown.
(19:48):
That was one that we talked about before and and uh,
where your body, your body mechanics, your body is in
a bad position, and they were covered, and just a
bad decision to make to throw it. And so you know,
he's not doing that quite so much anymore. But I'd
like to see feet on the ground most of the time.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, Mike, what about let's go over the defense. Just
kind of blanket statement or blanket question. What really stood
out to you from what you saw on that side
of the ball.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, you know, their defense is really good, and in
the first half, Atlanta was actually doing some things that
kind of surprised me. I thought they got a great
running back and he got some yards rushing. Cousins completed
some balls, so it was it was a little different
in the first half. The front, the defensive front didn't
(20:44):
dominate like they normally do when they start games or
in the first half. But what stuck out to me,
what has stuck out to me all season long and
now even more with each game they play, is their secondary.
You know. And I don't know if many of us
thought about Joe being the starting corner of the corner
out there. We knew about Witherspoon, but then Love came
(21:07):
back yesterday, but he hasn't been here. The guys that
filled in have done a really good job. But it's
hard to pass the ball against this team, it really is.
And if they get pressure, if they get pressure, it's
really hard. So uh but I would say that and
the linebackers, you know, Jones is just really good. But
(21:29):
there's secondary is the thing that jumps out of me.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Hugh, what about Emon Worry?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Then?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I mean that guy is just filled up the statute yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, I kind of didn't talk about him because I
have trouble with those names sometimes sound yeah the big
can call no he he well he is remarkable in
many ways, size, all the all the measurables, and now
(22:00):
as he's learning, as he's learning kind of the system
and maybe not just rely on his physical attributes, but
play the system. You know, I think he's going to
be He's going to be mentioned for a long time.
He's really good player, really good. Yeah, and he's got
like sixteen different roles. It feels like on defense, I
(22:21):
mean that's right. You're sitting there watching somebody that athletic
and can catch a bobbled the interception across the middle.
Are you thinking to yourself, Hey, Mike, I could use
him on offense too, since we're making him a jack
of all trades. No, and then his block on the
field goal. Yeah, I don't know how long his arm is.
He probably knows how long his arm is, but it
seemed like he was about four feet long when.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He came in there. Yeah, go go get is leaning?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah. Well, his span is eighty seven percentile for safeties
and and and his height as ninety first percentile, So
combine the two and he just you know, he's going
to have that extra like all the other corners who
were normally in that position. Mike it'd be like hand
him a a ping pong paddle or a racquetball racket
(23:08):
like like they just you know, a longer reach. But
but I mentioned corners in the first hour that that
are usually the guys that mann that because they can
turn that that corner. But amon worry obviously, in the
judgment of Mike McDonald and Harbor, the special teams coach said, hey,
this guy can turn the hoop on that too. That's
that's difficult to turn that radius the way he did.
(23:31):
And so he had the the athleticism and the body
lean to be able to do it, but then the
length to be able to get the block.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know what I always anytime a field goal or
pat is blocked, I go back and look at what
the offensive line did and the guy whoever was on
the outside there that was, you know, was responsibility. I
think the block im and Uri it was it was
he kind of stuck out his arm and elbow out
(23:59):
a little bit. But that's not gonna work. It's not
gonna work. You got to block him. And so it
always surprises me a little bit that that is. We
talked about coaching. Okay, we talked about coaching and the
special teams coach under the gun. That guy didn't do
that right. He didn't do that right, and as a result,
a great athlete made the block.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, speaking great athletes, Riquell for like, the fifteenth game
in a row has gotten a taunting penalty, or at
least that feels like to me, is this a week,
you know, coming off a really impressive win where maybe
you're going to make a little example out of him
that why are you not learning your lesson? Why are
you doing this every single game? You're not allowed to
(24:45):
stand over people. You're playing good football right now again,
but you can't stand over your receiver and yell things
at them.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's the rule.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And then you act like you're such a victim afterwards,
like how could you possibly call that because it's been
called every single time you've done it this year. Is
this a good week to maybe teach Rica a little
hard lesson that we don't haunt, we don't take fifteen
yard penalties even when we're up twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
You know what, that's the thing that what if the
game was close? What if the game was closed? Now
we're up twenty eight, so we still won. The game
didn't have a huge effect on the game. But absolutely
you cannot do this. And so to answer your question, Chuck, yeah,
they should have done it, but they probably have had
I would guess they've had the conversation already, maybe more
(25:34):
than a couple times. But then how many times you've
talked to him about it before you do something a
little more dramatic? You know, Okay, you sit down for
a while because you're going to cost us and that's
not how we play. That's not how we coach, that's
not how we play. What's for a while now, that's
a good question, serio. I mean, you know that idea
(25:57):
about Okay, we're going to put him in. We're gonna
he's gonna miss two series. You see teams do that
you missed two? You know, he's who was it? Somebody?
Somebody's not getting to practice or he's asleep and he
gets late to meetings and stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Some team Cowboys that a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
I think Schottenheimer had to deal with that.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah, he had to deal with and so he he
doesn't start him, but he gets into the third series
or something like that. Uh, if it's something that you think,
you know, those types of slaps on the hand, either
do it or you don't. You yell at him, or
you talk to him, I should say, and he either
(26:37):
gets it or he doesn't. If he doesn't get it,
then maybe he might not get some other coaching things,
other teaching moments, and then you don't do it now.
But do you do something at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Mike Homer and Hughmellan, It's Monday Morning Quarterback. One more
segment to go. We have one last thing for coach.
On Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Our final segment,
final session here of Monday Morning Quarterback here today, Well,
(27:13):
not the final session, it's I have many more of these,
but final segment of today's session of Monday Morning Quarterback.
One last thing here for a coach. We go round
the room, Bucky, what do you got?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
What are you feeling when you're the coach and things
are rolling like they were yesterday in the second half.
Good team, bad team. I don't care. It's an NFL team.
You put up thirty plus points. I saw a stat
yesterday where that's the fourth time this season that the
Seahawks have had a thirty plus point half of football.
The entire NFL combined has six outside of them. So
(27:44):
when it's rolling like that, you know, what do you
feel like?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
So?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I feel like I don't.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Know what to play? I know they're all going to work.
I never felt that exactly, but that Super Bowl against
my Broncos, you didn't feel that. Well, that was different. Yeah,
I know I felt like you felt that A good
feeling there. Yeah, but no, it's it's a good feeling.
(28:09):
But it's like you do have that feeling. I can
dial up anything or just about anything, but then you
have to be smart with it. I mean, you can't
just get crazy and say, Okay, we're gonna pass, we're
gonna get all these yards, we're gonna do all this stuff.
You still have to stay in your rhythm. But to
say you don't you don't have that feeling like it's
(28:30):
going to work, you know. No, I'm I had those
feelings every once in a while though it's gonna work.
I remember one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hear
what you got.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well. I'm tempted to ask Mike about Andy and the Chiefs,
but I think the football world Mike is is talking
about what transpired in college football with and the selection committee,
Your b Yu Cougar's are are part of the controversy.
I think in a lot of people's eyes. Just do
you have a thought or two about what transpired Saturday
(29:03):
and then yesterday with the selection committee I.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Heard now, I don't know. You can tell me if
this happened that when it came the selection committee got
a call from a former quarterback at Washington saying b
Yu did not deserve to be in this thing this year.
I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, I know that one that might have if given
the opportunity. Yeah, yeah, you might be tracking on something.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
No, but you know, I haven't followed it too much
other than the fact that the one thing that bothered
not bothered me. But I didn't quite understand I shouldn't
say that either. I kind of got it, but I
didn't agree with it. Was Alabama has three losses, don't they? Yeah, Okay,
so they to have a bunch of teams with a
(29:55):
much better record or a better record not even come
close to making it, and have al Obama in there.
I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Really, Well, Alabama, they had the same Alabama had two losses,
but they played an extra game, right because they played
in the conference championship. But my whole argument, which is
a little different than Hughes, is that, Okay, if you
were head and shoulders above everybody else, then you can
afford that loss. But they made it very clear in
the selection process that the previous week Notre Dame's two
(30:24):
loss season was better than Alabama's two loss season.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So how does our.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Third loss, even if they did get an extra game,
how does that not factor in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I would have kept Alabama out of it.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But you can imagine, you can just imagine. I've been
in meetings like that. You get into that meeting with group,
with those guys, and they're talking about maybe that very
thing is notre ed aime in fim open the discussion.
You have a lot of different opinions, and so someone
I don't really know how they come if there's one
man that finally decides, I don't know that. But anyway,
(31:00):
I said, you know, the SEC, what do they have
twenty five teams in the league? Yes, you know, I
mean he was you know, Well, then they got Howard
fine By him or whatever is what's his name?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Fi fine Ball?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Oh yeah, he wants to be the next coach of
the of the Cleveland Browns. You know, I mean, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Is there any oh, go ahead? I have no thoughts.
Is there anybody in this conversation who thinks that the
SEC is not the best conference when measured deep the
entire depth, not just the top two or three, because
I think the Big ten UH is easily just as good.
But I'm talking about five, ten, twelve teams deep. Is
(31:38):
there anybody who doesn't think that the SEC is the
number one conference in football?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I do.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I think that I do. Okay, I would say so too,
so so Alabama on the regular season as determined, as
structured by the SEC, the SEC, and you and a
hundred years from now, as they said earlier, you can
look up and Alabama as the regular season champion of
the SEC. I don't think that I want to have
(32:07):
a twelve team I don't think it's fair to have
a twelve team tournament and the number one team for
an entire season in the toughest conference is left out
of a twelve team playoff. And so I know that says, well,
what if they lost seventeen to nothing? I know there's
some some tough questions that that would lead to. But
(32:28):
I did you know everybody else is sitting around, you know,
Notre Dame was watching UH and Texas or Texas A
and m was watching, and Ole Miss was watching Mike.
In pro football, you don't you try and win so
you get a buye college football's got it asked backwards.
You try and win so to give the other teams
(32:49):
that are below you they get the buy. But you
got to play and then risk your chance of being
in the in the tournament. Look, I think there's great arguments, Mike,
Mike Chuck laid out a great argument and it has merit.
I just happened to, you know, be more persuaded by
the argument that Alabama shouldn't lose that opportunity given everything
(33:12):
they accomplished and by the way, they had the number
one strength of schedule in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know, do you There's been a lot of talk
about this. It generates a lot of discussion. Are the
rules going to? Is there any way to change it?
So meah, some of them they already.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I mean the first year of the tournament was last year,
and there were some obvious things that needed to be changed,
and they changed them last offseason, and now they're going
to have to do it again. Yeah, and they're going
to be a couple of other obvious things are going
to have to be changed. But we're in the infancy
of this. It's like a two year old baby. And
we lived with a crap system for one hundred years
in college football that didn't even give the Washington Huskies
and Hugh mill and the chance to prove that they
(33:50):
were better than Robbie Bosco and the BYU Cougar.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
So it's a much better system than that. I think
we can all agree about that.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I didn't bring that up intentionally because I don't want
my friend to have a bad lunch today or something.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, you guys, joke you think it's funny, right, Yeah,
that's good. No, just make make your jokes.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I know you for I know you've forgotten about this.
You it's it's over and done with you.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I can only tell you every single play of that
holiday boll All right.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Well that'll do it for us, Thank you, coach, Thank
you here, appreciate you. All right, another sashion comes to
a close, So we'll talk to you again tomorrow. Ashley,
Bucky and myself at six am, Mark James Christopher Kid
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