December 9, 2025 • 34 mins
RICK NEUHEISEL ( CBS Sports) - We’ve never had a conversation with Neuheisel quite like this one! - Will he be the next coach at WSU? Would he want to coach the Cougs? - Who should be the angriest with the college football playoff committee? :30- The Ol Judge is here and ready to weigh in on stuff! - Is Nick Emmanwori or Devon Witherspoon the Seahawks best player? - Will the Mariners regret the Harry Ford trade? :45- We wrap up the show with one last thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to talk all things college football.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's just like the menu at Taco Time. You just
can't get enough.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You just can't get This is our weekly visit with
Rick Neuheisel, brought to you by Taco.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Time, not those new Heidels. Used to be a moniker
of mine. I mean, just sell you out now.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
On your home for college football Saturdays, here's Nacho's new
Heidel on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is college football and I want you to get
it all over yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm going to tell you right now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ever since we had the privilege of being able to
talk to Rick new Isel every single week of our
lives during the football season, what nine years ago, I've
been pumped every single week to talk to coach new Isel.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But this week did a oh more.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Ever, guess oh, I don't even know what to do
with myself. Joining us now is our college football insider
Rick new Isel.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Hello, Sarah, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I am? Well? That made me laugh, and yet in
some form fashion sounded a little disturbing. I'm just going
to let you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Know it is disturbing. Good.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I kind of want to have that effect on people.
I want to make you laugh, but walk away going
what's wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With that guy?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So all right, I'm just going to ask you. I'm
not going to ignore this elephant in the room. Are
you going to be the Washington State Cougar's head coach?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I have no idea. I have not spoken to anybody
from Washington State. There have been a number of alums
that I've talked to. I've made a lot of friends
over my lifetime, to Jack Thompson's of the world, the
Mark Riffins of the world, the Drew Bloodshoe's of the world,
and I've always admired greatly how much they love their school.
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I mean, it is a it's a badge of honor
to be a KUP, and so there's there's no question
that there's great passion there. And I've made it clear
that I'm miss coaching. There's no question about that. So
if if an opportunity were present itself, I would certainly
entertain it. I have not talked to anybody at the school.
(02:06):
These things go by way of search firms and such,
So I'll check in with you later if I got
any news, but I don't have any today.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Okay, well, then it sounds I mean that you kind
of pretty much answered it. I mean you you missed coaching,
so if the opportunity to present itself, you would gladly
take it. If somebody here is hearing this from Wazoo
right now and says, well, we've heard about that, but
we didn't know for sure. If he's interested that you're
interested in going to Pullman.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I'd be interested. And the other thing that's kind
of attracted for me, And again, this would all have
to be, you know, talked over, and I haven't had
that opportunity to talk to anybody. I'd love to coach
with my son and to have an opportunity for the
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two of us to collaborate in this kind of environment
and put together approach. I've said this new PAC twelve
that is going to begin next year with eight schools
that all have state named after him. I can't believe
All State Insurance hasn't decided how to sponsor this thing,
because it is all states. That new conference is really
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exciting from a standpoint that you've got eight similarly resourced programs.
It isn't like there's just the elephants in this room
that are going to run the table. Kind of like
James Madison is in the Sun Belt where they got
more money than everybody else. Sounds to me like you've
got eight schools at all, have a chance to coach
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hard and recruit hard and a chance to win, and
that to me is appealing.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'd love it for you.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Of course, you still have to come on with us
every Tuesday at nine o'clock. Yes, yes, but I mean
I envisioned the scenario, and I don't want to make
you on comfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I envision in a scenario where.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You coach the Kougs for a few years and then
eventually it's handed off to your son and he becomes
a staple there.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't know, that's That's what I as in my mind.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Is is that anything that you I mean, are you
entertaining that as well? I mean, not just working with
your son, but maybe the new Heisel stamp gets put
on that program for years to come.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So the old saying in the country song you want
to hear God laugh tell him your plans, right, So yeah,
I don't. I don't think we can put the cart
too far before the horse. I know this. I've loved
college football and I miss it and the relationships daily.
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I get a heaping hunk of it doing what I do.
And I love coming on with you guys. I love
the CBS gig that I've enjoyed. Now this was my
eleventh year. But if I'm going to make a run
to coach one more time, the clock is ticking right.
You can all see Marissa Tomay banging her foot on
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my cousin Vinny Ports there. So if it were to be,
I think I'd be really excited about it. If not,
I certainly understand.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Rick new is Elissa with us.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
We have addressed the big question everybody wanted us to
ask here this morning. I want you to get back
and coaching because I can't wait for you to get
angry about the committee snubbing you from the tournament.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They played some dirty pool this last week.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And I tell you who's got the reason. Who's got
the right to be the angriest in all of this?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, if we hadn't had six shows or five shows
previous to the final one, no one has the right
to be angry.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, no one.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But we did. We had five shows or six whatever
the number was. Where they told us that Miami was
better than or excuse me, Notre Dame was better than Miami.
Despite the fact, and I said this many times on
our little hits on Tuesdays, I don't see how.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
You do that.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The records are the same, Miami beat them. But the
fact that they did it, and they did it, and
they did it and they did it again and then
get to a week where neither team plays and flip
them is dirty pool. That tells us some other operation
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was in play and you can't tell me just because
by you lost. That's the first time we've compared the
two schools. That doesn't make any sense. As a matter
of fact, Hunter y'resix. The committee spokesperson said that they
were involved in the same pool and they came up
with the same solution that it was Notre Dame ahead
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of Miami. So at day's end to do that, at
the end, I can see why you're If you're a
Notre Dame fan, you're completely rankled. I can see why
Pete Babokua and by the way, just really bad form
for those two leaders, Jim Phillips and Pete Babakua, to
be airing it out in public. That stuff should be
happened internally with respect to what power is the ACC
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going to stump for their champion and or Miami as
opposed to a notre dame, which is a huge, huge,
valuable partner. Those things should have been ironed out, and
unfortunately we got to see the dirty laundry.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
How about the hypocrisy, if you will, I mean, how
do you reconcile the idea of an Alabama canilais and
egg in the SEC championship game? And I don't know
for sure how I feel about what type or how
much uh how much that should count against you. It's
an extra game that you know that you had to play,
or you get to play, but you also have to
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play if you're on the losing end of it. And
yet they don't move anywhere in the standings BYU shows
basically one thing, they're not as good as Texas Tech.
And that's the only thing that they've shown us that
they're not better than so far. And yet they end
up dropping a spot and can't find their way in either.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, we've got a super two dilemma here. We've got
the Big Ten and we've got the SEC and their
conference championship games don't matter. I mean, Ohio State fell
to number two. Alabama didn't even move despite looking woeful,
and if you were doing an eye test, it would
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have been Notre Dame in Miami and in Alabama out.
But the power of those conferences or such that they
just kind of created a way for those games not
to matter, which then leads us to wonder why are
we playing them then? Because all those kid teams are
doing are risking injury as they get ready for the playoffs,
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And I think what we're going to see is a
play in game to replace the conference championship game, which
will be much more fun to watch to see a Vanderbilt,
you know, Texas, these teams that are just outside trying
to get in a BYU having an opportunity to play
their way in.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, now that you said, I kind of like that.
I mean you still keep a twelve team format, but
instead of conference championship week, maybe it's each team gets
a representative from their conference and then they've just battle
it out for a week to see phills.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Rick new Eiel is with us, our college football insider
from CBS Sports, of course, former U dub head coach,
and we've already addressed at Koogs fans, We've already addressed
it if you're just joining us his segment with us
brought to you by Taco Time all year long. All right,
So how quickly are they drafting up the new rules
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to try to keep from two group of five.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Teams getting into the tournament? Ever?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Again, I guarantee they're crafting something. But congratulations to Bob
Chesney and James Madison and certainly to John Sumrall and
Tulane for beating them again. It's amazing. You know, the
group of five. It was Craig Thompson, who was the
commissioner of the Mountain West, who was on that four
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man committee that nant came up with the twelve team format.
And what he asked for was five champions, right, which
guaranteed a group of five, And they gave it to him.
And they said the four champions would be the top
four seeds, which basically was appeasing the commissioners of the
other four conferences, thinking of course that there will be
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the teams that'll be the best four. And yet last
year it was Boise State from the Mountain West that
got the buy. So they said, we can't do that anymore.
We got to change that. So we've changed that. But
in this year with the five champions still getting in.
They went past the a CC, which might have been
kind of a little bit wink wink, no, not in
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the committee room. Why Miami had to get in because
it couldn't keep the ACC from getting anything, which would
have been the case had that just been left with Duke,
which had five losses.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what we have.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Here is a failure to communicate, but to congratulations to
the Dukes and to the green waves and fingers crossed
that they play well, because it will be if they
can play well and be representatives, then maybe we don't
have to tweak it at all, and maybe we can
give more access to the little guys.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, now that you might be getting into the group
of five, maybe we just do take a page out
of cool hand.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, is that a thought bubble?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And then so, oh yeah, we'll just take a page
out of cool and Luke, whoever can eat the most
hard boiled eggs, gets into.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The Why did you have to say fifty fifty?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I mean, how bad of a situation have they created?
I mean, and Texas, you know to some degree you
have two other losses outside of the first one against
Ohio State, and yet they basically it feels like they're penalized.
They've been playing good football as of late, and outside
of that you know loss in Week one they that
put them at to where they finish at nine to three.
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I mean it, did you just basically shoot the idea
of having big time matchups in those first few weeks
of preseason quote unquote that I call it is that
just not going to happen anymore. Seeing is how the
team that lost that finds themselves right on the outside
looking in.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, if you heard Stark talk on this subject, that's
exactly what's going to happen. But I don't believe that
that will be the case because I don't think televisions
ours are.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Going to let it happen.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
They're going to force the issue. And I think we're
getting closer also to kind of like the NFL does,
where your schedules are determined where you finish. I wouldn't
be surprised to see an SEC one schedule in SEC
two and on down the list as to where you're
going to play, and who you're going to play and
how many games on the road. I know athletic directors
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want control of the schedule so that they can get
as many home games as possible, and even willing to
purchase home games so for their fan bases. But I
think we're getting closer that the television money is such
that they're going to be in control of some of That've.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Been saying it for years, decades, and finally it looks
like it's about ready to happen. So I am all
for that. I'm all about that. I want to get
your take on this. I mean, I want to get
to the Heisman and a little bit on Army Navy
before we wrap up. But urban Meyer said during the
Fox broadcast of the Big Ten Championship game that the
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job Kurt Signetti has done at Indiana is not just
the greatest coaching job in the history of college football,
it's the greatest coaching job in the history of sports.
That's what he said on the Fox broadcast. Well, I mean,
I'm not expecting you to go that far, but your
thoughts on what Segnetti has done.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It is a combination of brilliant coaching and the perfect storm.
It's a collision of a number of factors all coming
together that allowed for a unbelievable transformation of a program.
Two years ago, Indiana was the losingest program in the
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history of college football, the losingest by virtue of their
toe tap victory over penn State. They now won enough
games to put Northwestern as now the losingest program in
the history of college football. The reason I bring that
up is just to give you the idea that just
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two years ago they went and got this guy from
James Madison who'd had a nice little career at some
small schools Indiana Universe, City of Pennsylvania, I think Elon College.
He had left Alabama three hundred thousand dollars contract at
Alabama as an assistant coach to go be the head
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coach at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for one hundred and
twenty and his wife said, go get your job back,
and he tried, but he couldn't get it. So now
he's the head coach and off he goes. He brings
thirteen players with him from James Madison to Indiana, and
they had a reasonable schedule. And again this is the
perfect storm. Reasonable schedule, first year of twelve team playoff,
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and they capture the imagination of the country losing only
one game, and that to Ohio State in Columbus. They
get into the College Football Playoff. They get beat by
Notre Dame, but an eleven two start. He now goes
into transfer portal and finds a couple of pieces, Fernando Mendoza,
who's the favorite now for the Heisman Trophy. He comes
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to place quarterback brilliantly. But they have got great x's
and o's, which is where the coaching job comes in.
And then they get another kind of favorable schedule. They
win the one game on the road and then beat
Ohio State in a game that really didn't matter, but
for Indiana fans, having never been in that championship game,
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having not won a Big Ten championship in forever, this
was huge stuff. And now they're going to the Rose Bowl.
They're going to have a Heisman Trophy winner if Diego
Pavia doesn't steal it, a Heisman Trophy winner, a Rose
Bowl berth, and the number one seed after being the
absolute basement program of all of college football. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Who gets your Heisman vote.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
As much as I love Fernanda Mendoza, I cannot shake
off this Diego Pavia and having got that. I this kid, listen,
Clarkly he coached with me at UCLA, so I kind
of helped Clark get going in this business. So I
take great pride in his success. Vanderbilt had never had
a ten win season in the history of their school, never,
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and they got the ten wins on the shoulders of
this kid from New Mexico State who captured everybody's imagination
a year ago when he said we got Vanderbilt turned
as they carried the goalpost after beating Alabama into the
Cumberland River. This is a remarkable kid, and he played
his tail off down the stretch. So I'm here for diego,
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all right.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
So how much of cbls's coverage will be about Rick
new Heisl's decision like a Lebron James situation here and
the Army Navy game this.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Weekend, I can promise you it will not be about me.
This is the absolute quintessential college game of the year
for us. It is so fun and it means so
much more than just what happens on the field, and
you get down and you get to see these kids
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play with their hearts out, and when you get there,
you realize they're not as big as Alabama. They're not
as big as Ohio State. This as different and I'm
not taking away from their athleticism or their competitive zeal.
What I'm saying is these guys have made a commitment
to our country and to our way of life, and
that service kind of feel that they bring to the field.
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You can feel. And then you see the admirals and
the generals and what it means in terms of the
history of this game and the competitive nature of those
folks in theaters across the globe. I'm telling you, you
can't wait for that. Then all of a sudden we
get that aerial you know, circus of the flyovers and
the Blackhawk helicopters, and You're going, you know what, We're
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on the right team. We got the right team here
in America. So I can't wait to be a part
of that telecast and tis every year. It's a bucket
list item.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So Taco Time Pick of the Week. You have one
game to choose from, So who's taking it?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
My dad. We lost my dad a year in March,
late March. But he was an army man through and through.
He was part of the Jag Corps, and I got
to in twenty nineteen, got to bring him to the game,
and he's supposed to leave the sideline after the pregame
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and go up to his seats, and he said, no, no,
I'm fine right here. And he sat on the Army
bench the entire game and watched it on the video
board in Philadelphia, and I just laugh. I have pictures
of him. You're there with the Army mule and the
whole deal. So it's an honor for me to always
choose the Black Knights, and I'll look forward to see
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and if they can get it done. They're a big
underdog here is Navy's been outstanding.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, thank you, sir, thank you for joining us. Thank
you for your candor. We appreciate it and uh and
we will be rooting for you and whatever makes you happy. Yes,
all right, all right, thank you have fun.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Rick new Ile joining us right here on Chuck and
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coming up next, the old judge stops by on Sports
Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M is
in the courtroom.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
He's pointing up to the sky.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Ashley, you're supposed to stand, all right, all yeah, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I mean I haven't yet. Why would I start, now
that's true. Yeah, I'm not going to start. Just decide
to show you respect. That would be you could you
guys think something happened.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You get the bailiff? Yeah, take her down, cuff her.
All right, well let's get to it. We're in a
little late.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So the old Judge I got a lot of juicy
topics to discuss. Here's how it works. I'm going to
bring up a topic of discussion. Ashley and I will
discuss it for a little bit. Once the old judge
is hurt enough and is ready to weigh in, he
will slam his gabble and then he will tell us
exactly what the rule is in his courtroom. And that's
where it goes. Yeah, gabble, shut your mouth.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, it's the old judge's courtroom.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's what he does.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
All right, here we go. Let's talk some Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Nick Emon Worri, Yeah he's great, but Devin Witherspoon Spoon
is still the seahawks best player.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Oh, I don't know that is tough.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
I mean, I think based on a lot of the
larger resume, you'd have to go with Devin Witherspoon. Obviously,
Nick emn Worey is very impressive and I've really enjoyed
watching him, and I think he has the potential to
be the best player for sure, and I don't think
that would be an argument next year.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
But I think it's neck and neck.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I'd probably have to give the edge to Witherspoon just
based on longevity.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Here's the thing I think we need to change the
answer to this completely.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It's jsn our best defensively. Sorry, yeah, but I mean
a conversations again today brought up that our two best
players are Emon Worri and Devin Witherspoon. I think it's
very clear our best. Cavel gas yass.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Judge, it is definitely JS said, there's no way if
fans are bouts. I mean, we're talking about the guy
that's doing record breaking stuff. I will say this for
the sake of the conversation. I think Emon worry will
if he has not already caught up to and pass Witherspoon.
I think that's on this way because I think Witherspoon
is unbelievable at what he does. I mean, as a cornerback,
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he can cover inside outside, he's locked down and great
at coming up and making tackles, but I think Emon
Worriy can do that, and he can cover.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
He can cover tight ends.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I mean, there was one play last week where Pitts
made an unbelievable catch. It was a great throw in number,
like it was right in his back pocket. I think
he can do just about everything. And the fact that
he can play, you know, all the positions that they're
putting him in and do it well, that says something
about between the years for a young kid to be
able to do all that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
All right, college football, Notre Dame did not get screwed,
and they need to stop crying.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I mean, they did get screwed basically based on just
especially based on the fact that they were ahead of
Miami that entire time. It is strange that you needed
BYU to lose in order to look at the two
of those programs and their head to head competition. That's
a bizarre thing to me. I don't quite understand the
flip flopping in that sense. Notre Dame, Yeah, you got screwed,
but you know what, somebody gets screwed every year. Shut it,
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quit your bitchin you know, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
A really weird one.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
For me, because I think that this thing could get
answered either way. Notre Dame did not get screwed and
they need.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
To stop crying. I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I can also say Notre Dame did get screwed and
they need to keep on crying because that's the only
way to apparently enact change around here. I ultimately think,
and this is how close this conversation is, that Notre
Dame should be in the tournament and they need to
stop crying.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, Gavel, Gavel, Gavel. I'm not a big fan of
the crying and wine and you essentially, I mean, you
lost to it the whole debate. I think Notre Dame
was playing better football than more than just Miami, more
than a bunch of teams that are in the tournament.
They were playing unbelievable basically since that Miami game, they've
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been playing pretty unbelievable football. But at the same time,
you lost to them head to head, and so I mean,
I get it the fact that like new EISA was saying,
the fact that we had five weeks of them saying
that they were beneath that Miami was beneath Notre Dame,
and then without either of them even stepping on a
football field, you flop them. That to me is yeah,
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you can be pissed off, same time, go play in
your bowl game. I mean, I guess that it doesn't matter.
You're just basically making money and you know, going out
and appeasing the man if you will. But yeah, just
stop crying. And I'm not a big fan of the whiney.
I'm going to take my ball and go home because
I'm mad.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In the movies, Ford beat ferrr E. Will Jerry and
Justin live to regret trading Harry Ford for jose A
ferrer E a relief pitcher.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I don't think they're going to regret it.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I do think that Harry Ford is going to be
an excellent player, but at the same time, he was
stuck behind cal Rawly. So are you going to keep
somebody there for even longer that really has no upward
trajectory or are you going to see what you can
get for him? Obviously, given what they got for him,
then the trade value wasn't as high as we thought
they would, which makes me think they're not going to
regret it, and it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, I think they might live to regret it, but
I will tell you this. They certainly don't regret it
right now. According to Jerry Depoto and Daniel Kramer's latest article, quote,
we feel like we got the number one trade target
on our list.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So they've been after Jose Ferrer apparently for six years.
They wanted him desperately this offseason, and when you think
about it that way.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Man, maybe they didn't have to give up as much
as they thought they were going down gable gabble, gabble.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, it's the idea of when we all knew
Harry Ford was on the trade block and he was
probably going to move somewhere, I think we all had
our hope set really high as to what you were
going to get that obviously was not the market. And
so now you just measure what it is that they
have and Harry Ford is it's not for sure that
he's going to go on to be some great catcher
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in the big leagues. I think he is going to
be successful in the big leagues. But at the same time,
you got a guy that has proven to be capable
of pitching in the big leagues and be successful, and
I don't think he's even pop jet. I don't think
he's really achieved what his potential is. I think you
got a guy with a kind of a funky arm angle,
a little bit of a crossbody. There was one hundred
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miles an hour and has a nasty change up and
slew gets ground balls. Unlike a lot of people, he
throws a lot of strikes. He's in the strike zone
a lot. I think he's going to be great. I
think we just upgraded our bullpen immensely, probably upgraded the team.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's probably a win now move. We probably did get better. Yes, right,
one hundred percent think we've got better now now.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, we spend ten twelve years watching Harry Ford with
a three eighty five on base, you know, popping twenty
homers for the Nationals.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You treated again, he's.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Going to probably play every day for somebody that's gonna
pitch every other day. So yeah, there's a really good
chance you've got You lost the player that is more
valuable to a team down the road. But right now,
Harry Ford was not going to help us as much
as this guy.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I think you're right. Final one.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Bucky talks a big game, but I'm betting Ashley's wine
trip to Tualaton this weekend made Bucky's boy trip look
like milk and cookies at grandma's house.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Well, I'll just say we packed a lot into one
day in the Tuletan Valley and involves lots of wine,
some tequila, some more wine, some vodka.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I think more wine.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Actually, at one point was holding Stacey from Touleton's hair.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
There was no hair holding.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
There was stuff far beyond hair holding, though, I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
No. One day in twelt and I mean I had.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Sound like you're talking about breathy meats with that, but yeah,
some other stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, sure, yeah, a lot of that too. No, there
was no comparison. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I mean, I'm not insulted.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm not even bragging.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
It's it was unfortunate at fifty we should not have
done all the things we did.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You can always some breathy meat. Yeah, soak up all
of that fun.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, exactly, All right, going out next, one last thing on.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r f M.
All right, final segment. Time for one last thing. We
go round the room. Bucky.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I'm wondering if you and Anders and your podcast are
you're doing much on the Rule five draft coming up?
Not a lot, No no, because I've been reading some
stuff that there's a couple young catchers out there that
have some good upside and might be maybe on the
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door step of maybe knocking on the door a little
bit of being maybe being.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Ready for the big leagues. Rule five.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Everybody knows, right, if they don't protect him on the
forty man, then you can sniper them. But then you've
got to keep them on the big leagues sake of
cal are you, yeah, yeah, get rid of that dumper guy.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
What did he ever do for us? By the way,
he's like at every cracking game now, is he?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah? He was said by Mule Mule yesterday.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Do you know he was wearing two different shirts though
he started out with a sweatshirt. Then they were like,
we gotta get that guy at jersey. So then the
next time they showed him, he was wearing the third
jersey that go in the.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
They start chanting m VP for him, and he was
eating a hot dog.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Of course he was a babe ruth, but better No,
just said we need a backup catcher. That would be
a prime way to do it. You get some kid
that you don't you get him up to the big leagues.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
He gets to learn.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Under cow Is this your way of saying anything but anything,
anything but Garver?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Please, God Lord hear me. You're damn right.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Until we find out who that is, it might be
my one last thing every day is me coming up
with a way in which it can be anyone but Garver. A.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I was wonder where you're going, Like we're really bringing
up Group five draft right now.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I get where you're going now now it's funny.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
If anything Magarver, please, I'm sorry, Garver. You're a nice guy.
You can go be a nice guy and work walks
for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't think he even wants to come back. Good.
I don't think you gotta worry about it. What's your
one last thing?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Well, we didn't.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
We did start off the show kind of talking about
the rain just a little bit with the atmospheric River
and the and then of course the possibility of facing
Philip rivers the atmospheric rivers.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
But I did just want to say there.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Was a video of Snowami falls today and it's always
fascinating to look at the falls like on a normal
day and then what the falls looks like right now,
and it is incredible. There is a lot of rain.
So I just want to hope people are safe because
I mean it is not really, it is not anything
to joke about.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
There's gonna be a lot of flooding over the next
couple of days.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, the Jacobsons need to be safe.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, we're okay. But there was a lot of water.
I mean our house turned into an island last night.
There was a lot of water. And it's supposed to
be a bad one on Thursday too, possibly worse. I
mean it was right up to the house. I mean
the atmospheric rivers. I mean, are we going to set
the record? I mean, this is the I think this
is brain one.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
It's just like there's a break in it today, then
it comes back tonight with wind, and.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well we already had who previously and now we got
a third one.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I think they said we averaged like six a year.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh really, Oh.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Well, this one, because it's warmer too, means that some
of the stuff that would be snow up in the
mountains is not. Excuse me, some of it is, but
some of it isn't. So it's just a bunch of
runoff which is creating all the flooding.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It's bad, all right, I'm gonna close with a little
bit of baseball. By the way, we did tell you
that Edwin Diaz went to the Dodgers. I don't think
I did take the time to tell you. Three years,
sixty nine million dollars. It's a new record for a
relief pitcher, both annual salary and I think overall contract
as well. So the Dodgers get Edwin Diaz from the Mets.
Of course, Kyle Schwarber re signed with the Philadelphia Phillies,
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and all the experts are saying the moves are gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Start going now.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Also, we keep hearing this rumor about Trek Scuoble. The
Tiger's president came out and said yesterday, and there's no
reason to say this. Everybody is on the table to
be traded. I think Trek Scooble's as good as gone
from Detroit. It's just trying to figure out where he's
going to go. To make a prediction because I think
it might happen today. San Diego Padres, oh boy aj
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Preller just as one of those guys that like he
just goes for it and then when he realized it's
not working, then he sells. He's just buy sell by
self they have had. I looked up their top prospects
from twenty twenty four. Aj Preller has traded ten of
them since twenty twenty four. Ten of his top twelve
prospects he's traded away to other teams to get stuff
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to help him now, and then he'll then he'll make
a move too. If it's not working, I'll get rid
of the veteran and I'll bring back prospects. So he
kind of has this revolving door. I think the Tigers
are not a team that is crying poverty. I think
they are a team saying we're just not that franchise
that can sign a guy to a ten year, four
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hundred million dollar contract, so we might as well trade
him while we can get some pieces. So I think
those two are going to hook up. I think they're
going to hook up today. I think they're going to
make out right in front of us. So just something
to I mean, that's a bold, outlandish prediction. That's like
predicting Philip Rivers will be the starting quarterback for the
Indianapoli's ridiculous, and yet it just might happen.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
We'll talk to you tomorrow at six.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
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Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
It's time to talk all things college football.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:07):
You just can't get This is our weekly visit with
Rick Neuheisel, brought to you by Taco.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Time, not those new Heidels. Used to be a moniker
of mine. I mean, just sell you out now.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
On your home for college football Saturdays, here's Nacho's new
Heidel on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is college football and I want you to get
it all over yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm going to tell you right now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ever since we had the privilege of being able to
talk to Rick new Isel every single week of our
lives during the football season, what nine years ago, I've
been pumped every single week to talk to coach new Isel.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But this week did a oh more.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Ever, guess oh, I don't even know what to do
with myself. Joining us now is our college football insider
Rick new Isel.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Hello, Sarah, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I am? Well? That made me laugh, and yet in
some form fashion sounded a little disturbing. I'm just going
to let you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Know it is disturbing. Good.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I kind of want to have that effect on people.
I want to make you laugh, but walk away going
what's wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With that guy?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So all right, I'm just going to ask you. I'm
not going to ignore this elephant in the room. Are
you going to be the Washington State Cougar's head coach?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I have no idea. I have not spoken to anybody
from Washington State. There have been a number of alums
that I've talked to. I've made a lot of friends
over my lifetime, to Jack Thompson's of the world, the
Mark Riffins of the world, the Drew Bloodshoe's of the world,
and I've always admired greatly how much they love their school.
(01:45):
I mean, it is a it's a badge of honor
to be a KUP, and so there's there's no question
that there's great passion there. And I've made it clear
that I'm miss coaching. There's no question about that. So
if if an opportunity were present itself, I would certainly
entertain it. I have not talked to anybody at the school.
(02:06):
These things go by way of search firms and such,
So I'll check in with you later if I got
any news, but I don't have any today.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Okay, well, then it sounds I mean that you kind
of pretty much answered it. I mean you you missed coaching,
so if the opportunity to present itself, you would gladly
take it. If somebody here is hearing this from Wazoo
right now and says, well, we've heard about that, but
we didn't know for sure. If he's interested that you're
interested in going to Pullman.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I'd be interested. And the other thing that's kind
of attracted for me, And again, this would all have
to be, you know, talked over, and I haven't had
that opportunity to talk to anybody. I'd love to coach
with my son and to have an opportunity for the
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two of us to collaborate in this kind of environment
and put together approach. I've said this new PAC twelve
that is going to begin next year with eight schools
that all have state named after him. I can't believe
All State Insurance hasn't decided how to sponsor this thing,
because it is all states. That new conference is really
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exciting from a standpoint that you've got eight similarly resourced programs.
It isn't like there's just the elephants in this room
that are going to run the table. Kind of like
James Madison is in the Sun Belt where they got
more money than everybody else. Sounds to me like you've
got eight schools at all, have a chance to coach
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hard and recruit hard and a chance to win, and
that to me is appealing.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'd love it for you.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Of course, you still have to come on with us
every Tuesday at nine o'clock. Yes, yes, but I mean
I envisioned the scenario, and I don't want to make
you on comfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I envision in a scenario where.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You coach the Kougs for a few years and then
eventually it's handed off to your son and he becomes
a staple there.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't know, that's That's what I as in my mind.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Is is that anything that you I mean, are you
entertaining that as well? I mean, not just working with
your son, but maybe the new Heisel stamp gets put
on that program for years to come.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So the old saying in the country song you want
to hear God laugh tell him your plans, right, So yeah,
I don't. I don't think we can put the cart
too far before the horse. I know this. I've loved
college football and I miss it and the relationships daily.
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I get a heaping hunk of it doing what I do.
And I love coming on with you guys. I love
the CBS gig that I've enjoyed. Now this was my
eleventh year. But if I'm going to make a run
to coach one more time, the clock is ticking right.
You can all see Marissa Tomay banging her foot on
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my cousin Vinny Ports there. So if it were to be,
I think I'd be really excited about it. If not,
I certainly understand.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Rick new is Elissa with us.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
We have addressed the big question everybody wanted us to
ask here this morning. I want you to get back
and coaching because I can't wait for you to get
angry about the committee snubbing you from the tournament.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They played some dirty pool this last week.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And I tell you who's got the reason. Who's got
the right to be the angriest in all of this?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, if we hadn't had six shows or five shows
previous to the final one, no one has the right
to be angry.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, no one.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But we did. We had five shows or six whatever
the number was. Where they told us that Miami was
better than or excuse me, Notre Dame was better than Miami.
Despite the fact, and I said this many times on
our little hits on Tuesdays, I don't see how.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
You do that.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The records are the same, Miami beat them. But the
fact that they did it, and they did it, and
they did it and they did it again and then
get to a week where neither team plays and flip
them is dirty pool. That tells us some other operation
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was in play and you can't tell me just because
by you lost. That's the first time we've compared the
two schools. That doesn't make any sense. As a matter
of fact, Hunter y'resix. The committee spokesperson said that they
were involved in the same pool and they came up
with the same solution that it was Notre Dame ahead
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of Miami. So at day's end to do that, at
the end, I can see why you're If you're a
Notre Dame fan, you're completely rankled. I can see why
Pete Babokua and by the way, just really bad form
for those two leaders, Jim Phillips and Pete Babakua, to
be airing it out in public. That stuff should be
happened internally with respect to what power is the ACC
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going to stump for their champion and or Miami as
opposed to a notre dame, which is a huge, huge,
valuable partner. Those things should have been ironed out, and
unfortunately we got to see the dirty laundry.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
How about the hypocrisy, if you will, I mean, how
do you reconcile the idea of an Alabama canilais and
egg in the SEC championship game? And I don't know
for sure how I feel about what type or how
much uh how much that should count against you. It's
an extra game that you know that you had to play,
or you get to play, but you also have to
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play if you're on the losing end of it. And
yet they don't move anywhere in the standings BYU shows
basically one thing, they're not as good as Texas Tech.
And that's the only thing that they've shown us that
they're not better than so far. And yet they end
up dropping a spot and can't find their way in either.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, we've got a super two dilemma here. We've got
the Big Ten and we've got the SEC and their
conference championship games don't matter. I mean, Ohio State fell
to number two. Alabama didn't even move despite looking woeful,
and if you were doing an eye test, it would
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have been Notre Dame in Miami and in Alabama out.
But the power of those conferences or such that they
just kind of created a way for those games not
to matter, which then leads us to wonder why are
we playing them then? Because all those kid teams are
doing are risking injury as they get ready for the playoffs,
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And I think what we're going to see is a
play in game to replace the conference championship game, which
will be much more fun to watch to see a Vanderbilt,
you know, Texas, these teams that are just outside trying
to get in a BYU having an opportunity to play
their way in.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, now that you said, I kind of like that.
I mean you still keep a twelve team format, but
instead of conference championship week, maybe it's each team gets
a representative from their conference and then they've just battle
it out for a week to see phills.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Rick new Eiel is with us, our college football insider
from CBS Sports, of course, former U dub head coach,
and we've already addressed at Koogs fans, We've already addressed
it if you're just joining us his segment with us
brought to you by Taco Time all year long. All right,
So how quickly are they drafting up the new rules
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to try to keep from two group of five.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Teams getting into the tournament? Ever?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Again, I guarantee they're crafting something. But congratulations to Bob
Chesney and James Madison and certainly to John Sumrall and
Tulane for beating them again. It's amazing. You know, the
group of five. It was Craig Thompson, who was the
commissioner of the Mountain West, who was on that four
(10:22):
man committee that nant came up with the twelve team format.
And what he asked for was five champions, right, which
guaranteed a group of five, And they gave it to him.
And they said the four champions would be the top
four seeds, which basically was appeasing the commissioners of the
other four conferences, thinking of course that there will be
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the teams that'll be the best four. And yet last
year it was Boise State from the Mountain West that
got the buy. So they said, we can't do that anymore.
We got to change that. So we've changed that. But
in this year with the five champions still getting in.
They went past the a CC, which might have been
kind of a little bit wink wink, no, not in
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the committee room. Why Miami had to get in because
it couldn't keep the ACC from getting anything, which would
have been the case had that just been left with Duke,
which had five losses.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what we have.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Here is a failure to communicate, but to congratulations to
the Dukes and to the green waves and fingers crossed
that they play well, because it will be if they
can play well and be representatives, then maybe we don't
have to tweak it at all, and maybe we can
give more access to the little guys.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, now that you might be getting into the group
of five, maybe we just do take a page out
of cool hand.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, is that a thought bubble?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And then so, oh yeah, we'll just take a page
out of cool and Luke, whoever can eat the most
hard boiled eggs, gets into.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The Why did you have to say fifty fifty?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I mean, how bad of a situation have they created?
I mean, and Texas, you know to some degree you
have two other losses outside of the first one against
Ohio State, and yet they basically it feels like they're penalized.
They've been playing good football as of late, and outside
of that you know loss in Week one they that
put them at to where they finish at nine to three.
(12:20):
I mean it, did you just basically shoot the idea
of having big time matchups in those first few weeks
of preseason quote unquote that I call it is that
just not going to happen anymore. Seeing is how the
team that lost that finds themselves right on the outside
looking in.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, if you heard Stark talk on this subject, that's
exactly what's going to happen. But I don't believe that
that will be the case because I don't think televisions
ours are.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Going to let it happen.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
They're going to force the issue. And I think we're
getting closer also to kind of like the NFL does,
where your schedules are determined where you finish. I wouldn't
be surprised to see an SEC one schedule in SEC
two and on down the list as to where you're
going to play, and who you're going to play and
how many games on the road. I know athletic directors
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want control of the schedule so that they can get
as many home games as possible, and even willing to
purchase home games so for their fan bases. But I
think we're getting closer that the television money is such
that they're going to be in control of some of That've.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Been saying it for years, decades, and finally it looks
like it's about ready to happen. So I am all
for that. I'm all about that. I want to get
your take on this. I mean, I want to get
to the Heisman and a little bit on Army Navy
before we wrap up. But urban Meyer said during the
Fox broadcast of the Big Ten Championship game that the
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job Kurt Signetti has done at Indiana is not just
the greatest coaching job in the history of college football,
it's the greatest coaching job in the history of sports.
That's what he said on the Fox broadcast. Well, I mean,
I'm not expecting you to go that far, but your
thoughts on what Segnetti has done.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It is a combination of brilliant coaching and the perfect storm.
It's a collision of a number of factors all coming
together that allowed for a unbelievable transformation of a program.
Two years ago, Indiana was the losingest program in the
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history of college football, the losingest by virtue of their
toe tap victory over penn State. They now won enough
games to put Northwestern as now the losingest program in
the history of college football. The reason I bring that
up is just to give you the idea that just
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two years ago they went and got this guy from
James Madison who'd had a nice little career at some
small schools Indiana Universe, City of Pennsylvania, I think Elon College.
He had left Alabama three hundred thousand dollars contract at
Alabama as an assistant coach to go be the head
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coach at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for one hundred and
twenty and his wife said, go get your job back,
and he tried, but he couldn't get it. So now
he's the head coach and off he goes. He brings
thirteen players with him from James Madison to Indiana, and
they had a reasonable schedule. And again this is the
perfect storm. Reasonable schedule, first year of twelve team playoff,
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and they capture the imagination of the country losing only
one game, and that to Ohio State in Columbus. They
get into the College Football Playoff. They get beat by
Notre Dame, but an eleven two start. He now goes
into transfer portal and finds a couple of pieces, Fernando Mendoza,
who's the favorite now for the Heisman Trophy. He comes
(15:59):
to place quarterback brilliantly. But they have got great x's
and o's, which is where the coaching job comes in.
And then they get another kind of favorable schedule. They
win the one game on the road and then beat
Ohio State in a game that really didn't matter, but
for Indiana fans, having never been in that championship game,
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having not won a Big Ten championship in forever, this
was huge stuff. And now they're going to the Rose Bowl.
They're going to have a Heisman Trophy winner if Diego
Pavia doesn't steal it, a Heisman Trophy winner, a Rose
Bowl berth, and the number one seed after being the
absolute basement program of all of college football. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Who gets your Heisman vote.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
As much as I love Fernanda Mendoza, I cannot shake
off this Diego Pavia and having got that. I this kid, listen,
Clarkly he coached with me at UCLA, so I kind
of helped Clark get going in this business. So I
take great pride in his success. Vanderbilt had never had
a ten win season in the history of their school, never,
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and they got the ten wins on the shoulders of
this kid from New Mexico State who captured everybody's imagination
a year ago when he said we got Vanderbilt turned
as they carried the goalpost after beating Alabama into the
Cumberland River. This is a remarkable kid, and he played
his tail off down the stretch. So I'm here for diego,
(17:35):
all right.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
So how much of cbls's coverage will be about Rick
new Heisl's decision like a Lebron James situation here and
the Army Navy game this.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Weekend, I can promise you it will not be about me.
This is the absolute quintessential college game of the year
for us. It is so fun and it means so
much more than just what happens on the field, and
you get down and you get to see these kids
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play with their hearts out, and when you get there,
you realize they're not as big as Alabama. They're not
as big as Ohio State. This as different and I'm
not taking away from their athleticism or their competitive zeal.
What I'm saying is these guys have made a commitment
to our country and to our way of life, and
that service kind of feel that they bring to the field.
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You can feel. And then you see the admirals and
the generals and what it means in terms of the
history of this game and the competitive nature of those
folks in theaters across the globe. I'm telling you, you
can't wait for that. Then all of a sudden we
get that aerial you know, circus of the flyovers and
the Blackhawk helicopters, and You're going, you know what, We're
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on the right team. We got the right team here
in America. So I can't wait to be a part
of that telecast and tis every year. It's a bucket
list item.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So Taco Time Pick of the Week. You have one
game to choose from, So who's taking it?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
My dad. We lost my dad a year in March,
late March. But he was an army man through and through.
He was part of the Jag Corps, and I got
to in twenty nineteen, got to bring him to the game,
and he's supposed to leave the sideline after the pregame
(19:35):
and go up to his seats, and he said, no, no,
I'm fine right here. And he sat on the Army
bench the entire game and watched it on the video
board in Philadelphia, and I just laugh. I have pictures
of him. You're there with the Army mule and the
whole deal. So it's an honor for me to always
choose the Black Knights, and I'll look forward to see
(19:59):
and if they can get it done. They're a big
underdog here is Navy's been outstanding.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, thank you, sir, thank you for joining us. Thank
you for your candor. We appreciate it and uh and
we will be rooting for you and whatever makes you happy. Yes,
all right, all right, thank you have fun.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Rick new Ile joining us right here on Chuck and
Buckets segment brought to you by Taco Time. All right,
coming up next, the old judge stops by on Sports
Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M is
in the courtroom.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
He's pointing up to the sky.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Ashley, you're supposed to stand, all right, all yeah, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I mean I haven't yet. Why would I start, now
that's true. Yeah, I'm not going to start. Just decide
to show you respect. That would be you could you
guys think something happened.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You get the bailiff? Yeah, take her down, cuff her.
All right, well let's get to it. We're in a
little late.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So the old Judge I got a lot of juicy
topics to discuss. Here's how it works. I'm going to
bring up a topic of discussion. Ashley and I will
discuss it for a little bit. Once the old judge
is hurt enough and is ready to weigh in, he
will slam his gabble and then he will tell us
exactly what the rule is in his courtroom. And that's
where it goes. Yeah, gabble, shut your mouth.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, it's the old judge's courtroom.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's what he does.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
All right, here we go. Let's talk some Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Nick Emon Worri, Yeah he's great, but Devin Witherspoon Spoon
is still the seahawks best player.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Oh, I don't know that is tough.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
I mean, I think based on a lot of the
larger resume, you'd have to go with Devin Witherspoon. Obviously,
Nick emn Worey is very impressive and I've really enjoyed
watching him, and I think he has the potential to
be the best player for sure, and I don't think
that would be an argument next year.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
But I think it's neck and neck.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I'd probably have to give the edge to Witherspoon just
based on longevity.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Here's the thing I think we need to change the
answer to this completely.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It's jsn our best defensively. Sorry, yeah, but I mean
a conversations again today brought up that our two best
players are Emon Worri and Devin Witherspoon. I think it's
very clear our best. Cavel gas yass.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Judge, it is definitely JS said, there's no way if
fans are bouts. I mean, we're talking about the guy
that's doing record breaking stuff. I will say this for
the sake of the conversation. I think Emon worry will
if he has not already caught up to and pass Witherspoon.
I think that's on this way because I think Witherspoon
is unbelievable at what he does. I mean, as a cornerback,
(22:34):
he can cover inside outside, he's locked down and great
at coming up and making tackles, but I think Emon
Worriy can do that, and he can cover.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
He can cover tight ends.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I mean, there was one play last week where Pitts
made an unbelievable catch. It was a great throw in number,
like it was right in his back pocket. I think
he can do just about everything. And the fact that
he can play, you know, all the positions that they're
putting him in and do it well, that says something
about between the years for a young kid to be
able to do all that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
All right, college football, Notre Dame did not get screwed,
and they need to stop crying.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I mean, they did get screwed basically based on just
especially based on the fact that they were ahead of
Miami that entire time. It is strange that you needed
BYU to lose in order to look at the two
of those programs and their head to head competition. That's
a bizarre thing to me. I don't quite understand the
flip flopping in that sense. Notre Dame, Yeah, you got screwed,
but you know what, somebody gets screwed every year. Shut it,
(23:31):
quit your bitchin you know, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
A really weird one.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
For me, because I think that this thing could get
answered either way. Notre Dame did not get screwed and
they need.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
To stop crying. I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I can also say Notre Dame did get screwed and
they need to keep on crying because that's the only
way to apparently enact change around here. I ultimately think,
and this is how close this conversation is, that Notre
Dame should be in the tournament and they need to
stop crying.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, Gavel, Gavel, Gavel. I'm not a big fan of
the crying and wine and you essentially, I mean, you
lost to it the whole debate. I think Notre Dame
was playing better football than more than just Miami, more
than a bunch of teams that are in the tournament.
They were playing unbelievable basically since that Miami game, they've
(24:23):
been playing pretty unbelievable football. But at the same time,
you lost to them head to head, and so I mean,
I get it the fact that like new EISA was saying,
the fact that we had five weeks of them saying
that they were beneath that Miami was beneath Notre Dame,
and then without either of them even stepping on a
football field, you flop them. That to me is yeah,
(24:46):
you can be pissed off, same time, go play in
your bowl game. I mean, I guess that it doesn't matter.
You're just basically making money and you know, going out
and appeasing the man if you will. But yeah, just
stop crying. And I'm not a big fan of the whiney.
I'm going to take my ball and go home because
I'm mad.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In the movies, Ford beat ferrr E. Will Jerry and
Justin live to regret trading Harry Ford for jose A
ferrer E a relief pitcher.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I don't think they're going to regret it.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I do think that Harry Ford is going to be
an excellent player, but at the same time, he was
stuck behind cal Rawly. So are you going to keep
somebody there for even longer that really has no upward
trajectory or are you going to see what you can
get for him? Obviously, given what they got for him,
then the trade value wasn't as high as we thought
they would, which makes me think they're not going to
regret it, and it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, I think they might live to regret it, but
I will tell you this. They certainly don't regret it
right now. According to Jerry Depoto and Daniel Kramer's latest article, quote,
we feel like we got the number one trade target
on our list.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So they've been after Jose Ferrer apparently for six years.
They wanted him desperately this offseason, and when you think
about it that way.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Man, maybe they didn't have to give up as much
as they thought they were going down gable gabble, gabble.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, it's the idea of when we all knew
Harry Ford was on the trade block and he was
probably going to move somewhere, I think we all had
our hope set really high as to what you were
going to get that obviously was not the market. And
so now you just measure what it is that they
have and Harry Ford is it's not for sure that
he's going to go on to be some great catcher
(26:36):
in the big leagues. I think he is going to
be successful in the big leagues. But at the same time,
you got a guy that has proven to be capable
of pitching in the big leagues and be successful, and
I don't think he's even pop jet. I don't think
he's really achieved what his potential is. I think you
got a guy with a kind of a funky arm angle,
a little bit of a crossbody. There was one hundred
(26:57):
miles an hour and has a nasty change up and
slew gets ground balls. Unlike a lot of people, he
throws a lot of strikes. He's in the strike zone
a lot. I think he's going to be great. I
think we just upgraded our bullpen immensely, probably upgraded the team.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's probably a win now move. We probably did get better. Yes, right,
one hundred percent think we've got better now now.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, we spend ten twelve years watching Harry Ford with
a three eighty five on base, you know, popping twenty
homers for the Nationals.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You treated again, he's.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Going to probably play every day for somebody that's gonna
pitch every other day. So yeah, there's a really good
chance you've got You lost the player that is more
valuable to a team down the road. But right now,
Harry Ford was not going to help us as much
as this guy.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I think you're right. Final one.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Bucky talks a big game, but I'm betting Ashley's wine
trip to Tualaton this weekend made Bucky's boy trip look
like milk and cookies at grandma's house.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Well, I'll just say we packed a lot into one
day in the Tuletan Valley and involves lots of wine,
some tequila, some more wine, some vodka.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I think more wine.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Actually, at one point was holding Stacey from Touleton's hair.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
There was no hair holding.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
There was stuff far beyond hair holding, though, I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
No. One day in twelt and I mean I had.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Sound like you're talking about breathy meats with that, but yeah,
some other stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, sure, yeah, a lot of that too. No, there
was no comparison. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I mean, I'm not insulted.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm not even bragging.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
It's it was unfortunate at fifty we should not have
done all the things we did.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You can always some breathy meat. Yeah, soak up all
of that fun.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, exactly, All right, going out next, one last thing on.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r f M.
All right, final segment. Time for one last thing. We
go round the room. Bucky.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I'm wondering if you and Anders and your podcast are
you're doing much on the Rule five draft coming up?
Not a lot, No no, because I've been reading some
stuff that there's a couple young catchers out there that
have some good upside and might be maybe on the
(29:26):
door step of maybe knocking on the door a little
bit of being maybe being.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Ready for the big leagues. Rule five.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Everybody knows, right, if they don't protect him on the
forty man, then you can sniper them. But then you've
got to keep them on the big leagues sake of
cal are you, yeah, yeah, get rid of that dumper guy.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
What did he ever do for us? By the way,
he's like at every cracking game now, is he?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah? He was said by Mule Mule yesterday.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Do you know he was wearing two different shirts though
he started out with a sweatshirt. Then they were like,
we gotta get that guy at jersey. So then the
next time they showed him, he was wearing the third
jersey that go in the.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
They start chanting m VP for him, and he was
eating a hot dog.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Of course he was a babe ruth, but better No,
just said we need a backup catcher. That would be
a prime way to do it. You get some kid
that you don't you get him up to the big leagues.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
He gets to learn.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Under cow Is this your way of saying anything but anything,
anything but Garver?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Please, God Lord hear me. You're damn right.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Until we find out who that is, it might be
my one last thing every day is me coming up
with a way in which it can be anyone but Garver. A.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I was wonder where you're going, Like we're really bringing
up Group five draft right now.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I get where you're going now now it's funny.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
If anything Magarver, please, I'm sorry, Garver. You're a nice guy.
You can go be a nice guy and work walks
for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't think he even wants to come back. Good.
I don't think you gotta worry about it. What's your
one last thing?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Well, we didn't.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
We did start off the show kind of talking about
the rain just a little bit with the atmospheric River
and the and then of course the possibility of facing
Philip rivers the atmospheric rivers.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
But I did just want to say there.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Was a video of Snowami falls today and it's always
fascinating to look at the falls like on a normal
day and then what the falls looks like right now,
and it is incredible. There is a lot of rain.
So I just want to hope people are safe because
I mean it is not really, it is not anything
to joke about.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
There's gonna be a lot of flooding over the next
couple of days.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, the Jacobsons need to be safe.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, we're okay. But there was a lot of water.
I mean our house turned into an island last night.
There was a lot of water. And it's supposed to
be a bad one on Thursday too, possibly worse. I
mean it was right up to the house. I mean
the atmospheric rivers. I mean, are we going to set
the record? I mean, this is the I think this
is brain one.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
It's just like there's a break in it today, then
it comes back tonight with wind, and.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well we already had who previously and now we got
a third one.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I think they said we averaged like six a year.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh really, Oh.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Well, this one, because it's warmer too, means that some
of the stuff that would be snow up in the
mountains is not. Excuse me, some of it is, but
some of it isn't. So it's just a bunch of
runoff which is creating all the flooding.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It's bad, all right, I'm gonna close with a little
bit of baseball. By the way, we did tell you
that Edwin Diaz went to the Dodgers. I don't think
I did take the time to tell you. Three years,
sixty nine million dollars. It's a new record for a
relief pitcher, both annual salary and I think overall contract
as well. So the Dodgers get Edwin Diaz from the Mets.
Of course, Kyle Schwarber re signed with the Philadelphia Phillies,
(32:38):
and all the experts are saying the moves are gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Start going now.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Also, we keep hearing this rumor about Trek Scuoble. The
Tiger's president came out and said yesterday, and there's no
reason to say this. Everybody is on the table to
be traded. I think Trek Scooble's as good as gone
from Detroit. It's just trying to figure out where he's
going to go. To make a prediction because I think
it might happen today. San Diego Padres, oh boy aj
(33:06):
Preller just as one of those guys that like he
just goes for it and then when he realized it's
not working, then he sells. He's just buy sell by
self they have had. I looked up their top prospects
from twenty twenty four. Aj Preller has traded ten of
them since twenty twenty four. Ten of his top twelve
prospects he's traded away to other teams to get stuff
(33:29):
to help him now, and then he'll then he'll make
a move too. If it's not working, I'll get rid
of the veteran and I'll bring back prospects. So he
kind of has this revolving door. I think the Tigers
are not a team that is crying poverty. I think
they are a team saying we're just not that franchise
that can sign a guy to a ten year, four
(33:50):
hundred million dollar contract, so we might as well trade
him while we can get some pieces. So I think
those two are going to hook up. I think they're
going to hook up today. I think they're going to
make out right in front of us. So just something
to I mean, that's a bold, outlandish prediction. That's like
predicting Philip Rivers will be the starting quarterback for the
Indianapoli's ridiculous, and yet it just might happen.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
We'll talk to you tomorrow at six.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Coming up, Next, it's Mark James and Christopher Kids Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
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