It’s World Cup Day and Seattle is showing out! A lot of times people use the term “choke job” far too often, but the Spurs game 4 collapse last night was absolutely a choke job. Yes, the Knicks deserve some credit, but more of the blame needs to be pointed in San Antonio’s direction. Can they possibly come back after that? It’s doubtful. :30- Mariners Morning After George Kirby started off great and the game was scoreless into the 6th and then it all fell apart, resulting in a 7-2 loss for the Mariners. The M’s seemed determined not to waste any bullpen arms and let Kirby go 6 before bringing in Gonzalez who had just been called up and letting him finish up. :45- It’s World Cup Day and while Seattle doesn’t have any games in town today, the city is gearing up for the first game on Monday and there’s watch parties all around town. Team USA plays Paraguay tomorrow and we have some very excited co-workers who will join us tomorrow.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Now we've got all or the action never stopped? Are
you writing this down? Something complete? This is Child and
Buck in the Morning. What's that? Why you people are beyond?
Let's go, Let's get the game off. Hey, great morning
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to you and welcome into the radio show called in
certain circles of America and beyond, Chuck and Buck in
the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Great
to have you with us on this special Thursday, historic Thursday,
the start of a really special month here in Seattle,
Washington and throughout the world. And we are going to
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dive into that and so many other subjects on today's
radio show that will last today four hours, an entire
four hours coming your way here on this Thursday. So
great to have you with us. My name is Chuck Powell.
Ashley Ryan is here as well. Beautiful morning. Undoubtedly. Driving
in here today, I don't know why, but I took
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particularly particular note of the space Needle. You know, now
that we're getting these earlier mornings that we get to
drive in and we get pure daylight, It's like the
space Needle was like beaming this morning. And I think
that even the Space Needle knows I need to look
my best today because the world's going to be watching
certain cities in an Erica starting today. And I think
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it woke up with an attitude today. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think Mount Rainier was in on that. Oh she
was out and shining. I was like, girl, you look good.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You've been working out. I thought, have you been doing
squats because your thighs look streamline?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And I was like, I am picking up what you
are putting down.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe it was. I don't know
why I particularly looked around this morning, but it seemed
like that it was like a golden sunrise was so
much more orange today. Yeah, and so yeah, so I
just spent a little more time looking around and kind
of soaking in our city on the drive end today,
and honestly, I wasn't thinking about soccer starting because I
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rarely think about soccer, so I wasn't really thinking about that.
But then I'm like looking around and like, everything looks
so beautiful today. And then I started putting the pieces together.
I'm like, I think, I think maybe the space needle
like had a little makeover last night or something like that,
decided to wash its hair. I don't know, you know,
it went down to the barber shop last night to
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make sure that it was looking tight, got a fresh cut, yeah,
and and ray near and everything else. So I think
we're ready. I think we're ready for the world to
evaluate us.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think we are too. And I had an interesting
thing because so I use it. I always put my
GPS on when I'm headed into work because since they've
done the Revive I five thing, when the express lanes
when I couldn't use the express lanes anymore. Sometimes if there
was an accident or something, I needed to know if
I needed to take an early detour to get around.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So I just yeah, so I'm just in the habit
now of I turn it on.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well today it said your route may be affected by
World Cup traffic.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Oh, And then when I got into town.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
All of a sudden, World Cup just appeared on the
bottom of my and I didn't click on it because
I was driving. I was like, but I'm curious, I
will know what if I click on that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What happens? Do I start a World Cup party?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Maybe? I'm not sure. I've never been here either. Yeah,
So I was like, this is new. I don't really
know how it turns out. World Cup never came to Brighton, Illinois.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Oh really, I would have thought that would have been
a hub.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, And there's no way they were ever gonna put
it in Phoenix, in Vegas, the other two places that
I love. One thousand degrees, that's true.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Although it's gonna be warm here, but that not a
thousand Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
He's going to be a thousand degrees in those two
cities today. Everybody knows it warm. But it's here. It's here,
And for a lot of you out there, you've been
waiting for this for a really long period of time.
I know we have more soccer fans in this country
than ever before. I know that the younger generations at
are love and have grown up liking and loving soccer
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more than past generation. Certainly my generation and even though
it's not my cup of tea. I certainly, over the
course of the next month don't want to spoil anything
for those people, because you know, you wait for it.
It's kind of Christmas for you, and I want you
to have the best Christmas you can possibly have. I
want you to get everything you want out of this experience.
And I certainly don't want to be the grumpy guy
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in the corner going hard. Why aren't we wanting baseball?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, that's the nice thing is we can watch both.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And I think it's you know, obviously I have. I've
always watched World Cup. I've always enjoyed that. That's pretty
much the only soccer I watch.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But it is different.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Having going on in your own horse down for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's like, okay, well yeah, I got to pay a
little extra attention to it now.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And like I said earlier this week, when we were
openly discussing, how are we going to do this, I mean,
I mean, we're not going to sit here a whole
time talking soccer. That's the disservice to everybody. That's even
a disservice to soccer fans. You don't want me talking
that much soccer. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'd be like, well, there's guys running around.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, on the pitch. But we will do our
best to lend what kind of color we can to
the experience without it distracting from the hunger that we
all have still for the Mariners season, the Seahawks off season.
We are world champs, you know, yeah, I heard that,
and the NBA Finals, which really is where we start today.
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We've got to sink our teeth into this topic, our
first big topic of the day. And look, I've been
in this business a while, you know. I started in
sports talk radio when I was nineteen years old, for
goodness sake, and I just turned fifty five last week.
I'm not sure what you and Fain said last week.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He said happy birthday and that you were fifty five
and that I'd never heard it called double Nichols before.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, the old double Nickls.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I gave you.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Lots of birthday love.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I heard that. I heard that. Yes, so I appreciate that.
But so I mean, do the math. That's thirty six
years in this in this business, and there are a
lot of things that I think talk show hosts, sports
talk show hosts particularly fall prey to I think they
do fall or too often. I think they're always looking
for that big, giant, bold take rather than having a
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reasonable response to what we watched the night before or
what we experienced. The sports fans and so I think
over time, and I think sports fans are guilty of
this as well. We use the word choke way too frequently. Yeah,
and I try to use it sparingly. I don't think
that a lot of losses are because a team cracked
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under the pressure, because that's what a choke job is.
You crack under the pressure of the moment and you
are not rising to your abilities because you are feeling
that pressure, the weight of that pressure, and it's keeping
you from performing the way that you would normally perform.
That is a choke job. Not blowing a lead, because
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sometimes the other team just outplays you. That's not choking.
Most of the time it's not choking. The team didn't
lose because they fell victim to the pressure of the
moment and that's what threw them off their game. But
obviously there have been cases over sports history where yes,
that's a choke job. You choked that away, you had
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that in the bag and you choked it away. The
biggest example of my entire lifetime. Now, I can't go
back beyond that to tell you, because you know, you
can read about something and you can see highlights of
something that happened before your time, but if you didn't
experience it blow for blow, then you really don't. You
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can't take into account just how much of a choke
job that was. So in my lifetime, the biggest choke
job that I've ever experienced, the standard, the one that
you would have the picture in the in the dictionary
of that person that face as Jean Vandervelt. That's nineteen
ninety nine Carnousti. That was I've got my first major
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in my back pocket. I'm going in with a five
stroke lead in to date number four of the tournament.
I have a three stroke lead on the final hole
of the tournament. The only thing that's going to keep
me from that is a triple bogie on the last hole,
and who would do that? And who would do that?
And then a series of some of the worst golf
shots you've ever seen on the eighteenth hole that ended
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up with Jean Vandervelt at one point with his pant
legs pant legs rolled up to his kneecaps, trying to
putt or trying to wedge out of water. Oh that's fun. Yeah,
that was the picture. That was the embodiment of the
greatest choke job I've ever seen. He succumbed to the
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pressure of the moment and could not finish the job.
It ended up going into an extra hole and he
ends up losing his one shot at a major in
his career. That's choking away a big lead. That's choking
away a big moment in your career. That to me
was the signature choke job of my entire life being
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a sports fan and a sports talk show host.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Until last night, I was like, is he gonna say
last night was a show?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Because I thought it was until last night that now
is the standard. I am a thousand percent with Charles
Barkley on this one. That that could. I mean, everybody
keeps calling it a comeback last night for the next
to comeback from twenty nine points, and certainly they played
their part, but that had so much more to do
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with the Spurs collapsing. Yeah, they looked panicked, choking it away,
playing the dumbest brand of basketball that you could play
with a twenty nine point lead, or a fifteen point
fourth quarter lead like they had, or a twelve point
lead with four minutes to go like they had, or
a nine point lead with you know, three and a
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half minutes to go like they had, or a even
a one point lead with nine seconds to go, and
dearon Fox is attacking the rim at that point rather
than pulling the ball out with his speed and quickness,
trying to take as much time off the clock and
letting them foul you and send you to the free
throw line and leaving having a three point lead at
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that point with maybe four seconds to go, three seconds
to go, rather than getting your shot blocked by a
guy who's a foot taller than you, and then they
get the ball back and have a chance to take
the lead, which they did on a miraculous kind of
lucky tip that they got down the stretch. That was
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as bad as you can choke something away as I
think I've ever seen in the history of watching professional sports.
And I won't ever hang that on a college kid.
But when you're in the pros, I don't care if
you are young and untested at this level, on this stage,
you defeated Oklahoma City. You didn't have much trouble with that,
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and here you are with a twenty nine point lead
at Madison Square Garden. You've completely taken the crowd out
of the game. It is theirs for the taking, and
you just elect to play the laziest, sloppiest, scaredest version
of basketball that a team can play. Ashley, make no
mistake about it. This was not a comeback. This was
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a collapse by the San Antonio Spurs last night.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, and I completely agree. It was like watching a
train wreck. Like I was just like in slow motion.
How are they continuing to do this? And it's not
like they didn't know that New York is capable of this.
New York did this to the Cavaliers. They can come
back from a big deficit. They're not going to give up.
They're scrappy. So just keep playing the playing basketball the
way you play basketball, and don't all of a sudden
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change everything.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I had no idea. Well, actually I disagree with that part,
because you do change something when you're up twenty nine,
just as Charles was talking about last night, you do
change the way you're playing. You do try to milk
some clocks yet at some point, yes, you do try
to work the interior. You do try to look for
the best shots possible, because all you really need are
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two points at this point, need any points that you can.
And then you need to milk away the clock and
the combination of those two things. Don't play scared, but
you do it just the way that you play. Not
the Spurs last night. And this has to go on
our guy Mitch Johnson as well, because I think he
froze in the moment. He choked it away as much
as any of the players last night. And that is
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you just keep throwing up threes. You're rushing to throw
up threes. Why are you shooting any threes up twenty
nine points in the second half if you don't have
to unless it's a wide open look. And yet the
entire team just decided that's all we have at our disposal.
There's no other way to play basketball than to shoot
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a three. And they just shot themselves out of out
of a huge lead. They made silly mistakes, silly turnovers.
I mean, they just weren't playing like a team with
the lead in the NBA Finals and it cost them.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, And when I was saying don't change any play.
I meant, like, don't all of a sudden, it seemed
like they were, like, I guess, just afraid they weren't
playing with the confidence that he had had before. And
as far as the threes, Yeah, I was yelling at
the television. I mean, if you're going to throw up
a three, at least wait for the shot clock to
wind down. Don't throw it up when you've still got
twenty seconds on a shot clock, Like that's just a
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waste of a possession.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You have a seven foot five inch big man, Yeah,
get him the ball and the paint and they can
foul him, yeah, exactly, or he can or he scores
and you work it for a good field goal attempt.
And that just I mean, if you were going to
if you were to ride up a game plan for
how could we blow a twenty nine point with our
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talent and our defensive capabilities, how could we do it?
Let's let's talk about it. Let's brainstorm this. You don't
get out the whiteboard. How could we blow a twenty
nine point lead in the second half of Game four
the NBA Finals? How would we go about doing that?
And that's what you would draw up? I got an idea,
what if we never used the clock and never went
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inside the three point line, and then what if we
fumbled away a bunch of opportunities to score, and what
if we stopped playing defense?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And what if as we're collapsing, we don't call a
time out and we just let things continue until we
only have a four point lead, and then we decide, oh, yeah,
we should probably call a timeout now.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what happened to
the collective last night. Daron Fox seemed to be the
only one that wasn't scared of the moment, and yet
he was playing the dumbest brand of basketball. So everybody
else looks scared, including Wemby, including Mitch Johnson, and then
Daron Fox is like, well, I'm not scared. I'm just
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gonna be stupid down the stretch. And that combination that's
the only way you blow that. Yes, you implement that
combination of things, and that's what they ended up doing
last night. I mean, it is the new standard for me.
It has past John Vandervelt and by the way, Glenbignyam
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and Vandevelt both French. So I don't know, does that
tell you yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm
gonna have to look through your war history. I don't
think it's all that sterling, but maybe you don't really
know how to capitalize in the moment. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It was sure disappointing to watch too.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I mean, you know it was it.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Did it make it for an exciting game at the end, Yeah, sure,
But I don't want to watch a team just completely
fall apart. I don't want to watch a team blow
somebody out, But I'd rather watch a blowout than watch
a team just completely fall apart and poop themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, it was. It was highly disappointing, and I get it.
It made an incredible moment that people are never going
to forget. Yeah, and certainly Knicks fans will think about it.
And I talk about a statue of the Anonobe t
Yeah for sure, Yeah, that's probably going to happen. And
Anonoby was great down the stretch for and Brunson's an assassin.
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As we've talked about time and time again, he's just
unworldly in the fourth quarter, He's just so confident with
everything that he does when the game is on the line.
So there were a lot of elements where the Knicks
sees the opportunity, but they were still turning the ball over. Yeah,
Josh Hart missed a layup.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, exactly, well, and then you found Okay, Now the Knicks,
or now the Spurs, have some reprieve for their stupidity.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's not like they just seized every opportunity. It was
San Antonio just giving them an opportunity time and time
out to get back into a game they should have
never gotten back into. And I agree with Draymond when
he said, when Karl Anthony Towns sit that fallaway three
into the bench to cut it to twelve, I mean,
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how many games have you watched? Basketball games? Have you
watched when the other team cut it to twelve, you
knew it was over. Yeah, the team down by twelve
was gonna win the game. And he said it, and
I thought the exact same thing. I'm like, cause it
was you'd already gutted seventeen points of that and you
had all the moment them and the place is going crazy,
and you could see the Spurs players gripping and stressing,
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and you're right, Mitch Johnson wasn't doing anything to take
over the moment to try to you know, stunt the
momentum that was taking place at that time, and when
he hit that fallaway three, I'm like, oh, now they're
gonna start getting all the garbage to go their way
as well. It's like the basketball gods are on their
side at this point. They cut the lead to twelve
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with like five minutes to go, and I'm like, this
game's over. The Knicks have won it. And it was
funny to hear Draymond Green say the same thing in
the postgame analsis.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I was just watching thinking like, is there some
miracle that the Spurs can grab onto just to hang
on to this because I didn't think the Spurs were
going to do anything to to in the last minute
or two to all of a sudden, you know, take
make a run and dominate and get a you know,
eight point win. But I thought, is there just something
that they could hold on to so that the Knicks
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don't complete the full comeback?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And sure enough, there was no well plenty of opportunities
for that to happen, and even like I said, even
all the way down into the last few seconds, they
just still were like no, no, no, no, no, We're
gonna choke this away. No no, I mean, I know
they gave us another opportunity to to cement this thing,
but no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna miss two free
throws from our best player, who's an eighty six percent
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free throw shooter. We're gonna every opportunity that they give
us to cement this thing. We're we're just gonna add
water to it and just keep it loose so that
they have they have every chance to come back and
pull off history. And that's what we watched last night.
And so a lot of credit to the Knicks, don't
get me wrong, a lot of credit to the Knicks.
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But I think it I'm with Charles, I'm with Raymond.
I think it had a lot more to do with
San Antonio collapsing than it did the New York Knicks
coming back in that contest. All right, let's find out
what's on tap for the rest of the show. What's
on TEP? What's on TEP?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
All right?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
What else?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
One? Six? Nixt win it over these Spurs. They're up
three games to one in the series. They can clinch
it in San Antonio on Saturday. I do now think
it's over. I don't think you come back from this.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I don't know how you do, because just mentally, that's
hard to wrap your mind around.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Spencer Hawes is gonna join us. I don't think he's
even gonna want to at eight o'clock today, but we
have to get his thoughts on his buddy, Mitch Johnson
and the Spurs falling apart. Last night, Sanley Cup Final
reaches game number five. It will return to Carolina tonight.
The series is even at two games apiece. Many are
calling it the most evenly fought, best fought Stanley Cup
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Final maybe ever. We'll see if that continues tonight, starting
at five o'clock. Of course, the World Cup is here,
and we're gonna spend the quite a bit of time
today discussing that, including a Green Jacket draft today. At
nine o'clock. We were like, all right, Doe, do we
want Anders or Jackson on the show today, and then
we decided both so like yeah, yeah, So they're both
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going to be joining us for our World Cup preview,
our Green Jacket draft coming up today at nine o'clock.
Seahawks mandatory mini camp continues. We'll continue with our Seahawks
one series today and also Greg Bell's going to join
us at seven oh five to talk about the Hawks
College World Series starts tomorrow. It's an annual tradition. I
know there's a lot going on today, but we do
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have to check in with Kyle Peterson, Bucky's buddy, even
though Bucky's not here. So Kyle Peterson will join us
today at seven thirty to talk about the College World Series,
which starts tomorrow. A lot of world things apparently are
going to be determined. And of course we have our
baseball team that just decided last night. You know we
don't need this one. Yeah, yeah, you know what, Yeah,
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we might have stolen a couple of games here in
Baltimore's Let's see.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Some good pitching for a while and then let's just
see what happens after that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, let's just get our bullpen rested. That's the goal tonight.
And so they lost last night to the Baltimore Orioles
seven to two. They will finish the series tonight. Problem
with kicking game like that is, now you've got to
beat a really good pitcher in Kyle Bradish to win
the series, and that's not going to be easy. First
pitches at four o'clock Mariners put Matt Brash on the il.
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They put Ryan Bliss back down to Tacoma. That was
odd timing to activate Miles master Bony and of course
Cal is in Tacoma. He will play tonight after a
night off last night at seven five, So we'll talk
about all of this stuff. We've got Mariners morning after
coming your way next on Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. Well like last night in Baltimore, Yeah, those
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were two tight games. They could have easily gone Baltimore's
way both of them, and you come away with both victories.
Think about I mean, we talked about it a lot
yesterday about how crazy that game was on Tuesday. The
you had three not only do you have three guys
for the Orioles got thrown out at home? Yeah, which
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how often do you see that in a game three
players from the opposing any either team, that it's thrown
out at home, But for them to get thrown out
by the narrowest of margins, all three of them, and
we got the benefit of all three of the calls. Yeah,
we were living living dangerously. Yeah, we were living dangerously.
We were living pretty good life there for the first
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two days and certainly you want to get greedy if
you're the Mariners. And they didn't go into the game thinking, wow,
we've got two, let's just kick this one. But it
did kind of feel like, George, if we're gonna win
this one, it's all on you, buddy. Yeah, that's what
they did. It felt very much like that. And Kirby,
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who's not been pitching all that well as of late,
pitched great last night. Through six innings, George Shed allowed
just four hits, no runs, he'd struck out seven batters
and was sitting in beautiful position at seventy four pitches.
He'd been very efficient to that point, and so everything
was going swimmingly from the pitching front, and yeah, you
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had a shot. Yeah you were in the ball game.
We were tied through six innings, even though the offense
decided not to show up last night against Brandon Young,
who I mentioned several times he's been having a good year.
But that's not that very talented pitcher, that's not Cy Young.
That's Brandon Young out there on the mound. And yet
he was shutting out the Mariners for seven innings last night.
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And so you go to the bottom of the seventh
and excuse me, the bottom of the sixth, and you're
all squared up at zero zero. George had been flying
around through five innings at that stage. It was through
five innings, not six innings. Five innings, seventy four pitches,
four hits allowed, seven k's, and then the first battery
faces in the bottom of the sixth. Does this what
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two lost?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Paul's really smoke dot to center field? Julio track oh
gone oriole strength perts at the bottom of the.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Sixth, Pete Alonzo at the home run. He can do
that too, but George had dominated him in the first
two at bats against Alonso, just blew them away with fastballs,
and then Pete Alonzo gets one, knocks it over the wall,
makes it one to nothing at that point, and then
the world kind of caved in on George. He hadn't
really given up much hard contact throughout the game, but
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in that inning he gave up three extra base hits.
He ends up giving up three runs, and man, you
just didn't see it happening that quickly. I mean, he
was in beautiful position. Ashley five through five, seventy four pitches,
no runs allowed, striking out over a batterIn inning and
he struck out the side that inning, and yet he
got tagged as well.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I was. I was surprised, not by how he
had started the game. I thought, wow, okay, good is
like this is the George we've been wanting to see.
So I guess maybe a little bit surprised there, but
then yeah, for it to have turned as quickly as
it did, I was like, wait.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, third time threw the lineup, and there's nothing I
would have done differently if I was Dan. He couldn't
foresee that in the sixth inning George was suddenly going
to start giving up such hard contact that he did,
and that was three to nothing at that point, and
it just felt like last night, like that's too much
to overcome tonight, And it proved to be. Here's George
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after the game.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You know, I've been there's been a lot of moments,
you know, come up this year, the last month, you know,
kind of like fight or flight moment, and you know,
I feel.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Like I've been doing a good job of that, you know, mentally, and.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You know, well, you know those results will start to
come my way eventually, but thinking about it the right
way and doing the right thing.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
So man, I get one zero and then you know
it's game over. So he seemed so much more well
equipped to be able to work through some of these
challenges maybe a few years ago. Does it feel that
way or something?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean like this game finds a way to
slap you in the face all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
So the more and more you go through them, the
more you learned from it. So that's what I'm trying
to do.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And I'm still gonna be mad, still gonna be angry,
but use it and you know a different way to
approach the next start.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He knows himself. But this is the best part though.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's like this George now is instead of He's like,
I'm still going to be mad. I'm still going to
be angry, but he's not like I'm ef a mad
like old George would have been. I kind of missed
the old angry.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't know. I don't know how really to. I
don't think he uses it to his benefit. There are
some players that use their anger to their benefit. But
I mean, you heard it in the statement, and maybe
people don't catch it. I catch that when you say
you know you're pitching great and you feel like you're
having a good day. And then you give up a
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home run, the game's over, right. It was one to
nothing at that point, and that's how he unfortunately thinks
like I didn't get any I'm not getting any run support,
I'm pitching great, and then I give up a home run,
It's probably over And I think he carries that to
the next pitch. Yeah, when he has somebody botcha play,
he carries it to the next pitch. When he beats
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a hitter, and yet the hitter hits a little flare
that he had no business getting a hit off of
into right field, he carries it into the next pitch
and the next at bat when he walks a guy
because he has so much pride in his control. When
he walks a guy, he carries it into the next pitch.
You can't do that as a professional baseball player. He's
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as talented as any pitcher as we have, maybe the
most talented pitcher that we have, and yet he lets
that stuff bother him. And if it makes you angry
and focuses you more, great. Plenty of people are better
when they're angry playing sports. But when it makes you worse,
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you know, I mean, if your mindset was no there
you go, I gave you up a home run, game's
over because this team can't score for me. If that's
your mentality, then guess what's gonna happen. Two more guys
are going to tag you before you get out of
an inning, and the next thing you know, it's three
to nothing. And I will say this because I didn't
feel this way once it was three to nothing. The
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Mariners did kind of fold, like there was this element of, Hey,
we're out here to try to win this ball game,
but it's all going to be on George whether he
gets us there, because if we fall behind by any margin,
we're not going to go rescue him. We don't have
the pen depth right now to go rescue him. And
then we've called up a couple of minor league pitchers
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to fill it out, and they just let Domingo go.
I mean, three to nothing's not that big of a hole,
but we're gonna send Gonzales out there. Just called him
up from Tacoma, and there was no thought given to
going to anyone else once they were down three to nothing.
The goal of Dan Wilson and the organization, and I
know they talked about it beforehand, was we're all right,
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if we kick this game. The goal tonight is to
get our bullpen healthy again, to get our bullpen rested,
because we got to play again tomorrow, and we got
to play again a weekend series and we don't have
an off day. So yes, they were out to win
last night, but once they fell behind two nothing, three
to nothing, that was a little part of George as well, like,
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you didn't take me all the game. I'm goodn't tagging
We've still had a chance to win it. And then
obviously you didn't even care enough to come back and
try to come back from a three to nothing deficit.
I think there's truth to that. I don't think they
tried their hardest to try to come back and win
last night.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I don't think they did either.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And then that just makes me even more annoyed by
this six man rotation because we're kicking games basically because
we can't figure out the bullpen situation.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I actually had piggyback bourbon last night. Oh was it delicious.
It was very good. It's so good. I was trying
to drink the piggyback back into existing.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
So you need your piggyback, piggyback piggyback.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So a seven to two loss, that's what it ended up.
Jackson Holliday ended up hitting a Grand Slam for the ore.
So the Mariners said at thirty six and thirty three
and again, I mean that's one thing, all right, We're
putting this all on George. If it doesn't happen, that's okay.
Our goal really is to reset the bullpen on tonight.
I'm fine, But now, all of a sudden, you are
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at risk of not winning this series, which at this
stage would be awful.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
That would be very dissipping.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, I mean, you gotta win this series. And you're
facing their best pitcher tonight. I think we may be
throwing hours as well and Brian Wu. But Kyle Bradish
versus Brian Wu's going to be a heck of a
pitching matchup. And how many series end where the last
game of the series starts later than the first three? Yeah,
that is weird. I was like, oh, is it a
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noon game?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No, okay, no, because that would be weird, right, Why
would we have a noon game?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
No four o'clock? So a later start on Game four
of the series tonight in Baltimore, And it's because they
just have a train ride to Washington after the game
is over. So there you go this morning after and
we will have ABC's of the ms coming up later
on in the show as well. But there's so much
more to discuss, and today's a bit of a sports
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holiday and we'll dive into that next Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM. But he might also be a
soccer fan, because I don't know, at least a soccer
fan for Seattle, because he has made one beautiful day
out there. Oh my goodness, is that per picturesque? It is?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I actually went out to get something off the printer
and I had to stand there and just take it
all in front.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I had to stand there and take it all in,
didn't you?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
And then I was like, you know what, God, Mother Nature.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You're a great duo.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah. They must have their scarves on and drinking their
craft beer or that mother Nature.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Ye put the scarves up, right, scarves up.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
They are ready for soccer in Seattle. Sad. That's just
knowing what we're talking about, not really, but but happy
World Cup day. And again, I don't know how often
I'll repeat this, but maybe a lot, maybe little. I
don't know, I don't really particularly like this sport, but
I don't want it to interfere with I don't want
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to be the person that's like boring, you know, like
because people do that to baseball. Yeah, and all that
aren't baseball fans. Oh it's so slow moving. If they're
so boring, and they'll do it at like the most
ramped up that you are to watch a baseball game,
and they just do it to take the wind, try
to take the wind out of your sales. And I
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just think it's low class. So I am not going
to be that for soccer fans. I want soccer fans,
especially those in Seattle, especially our two little lovable gems here,
Jackson and Anders, to just have a ball. I want them
to have just the best month with this. So I
hope it goes well. Like community wise, yes, you know,
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I hope. I hope everybody that's coming into the country
has a great time here. I think that you're going to.
I hope that we don't have turds that are out
there to try to disrupt other people's good time that
are coming here to visit our city and our nation
here today. But I'm just gonna trust that this is
going to go great. And if I'm going to judge
it by the weather, we're off to a tremendous start.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, it's again, it's exciting. I like soccer. I don't
love soccer like you, but I like World Cup. Every
four years you get something a little bit more amped
up to watch, and so there's more than just traditional soccer,
especially here in you know, with the MLS, which is
a perfectly fine product. I'm just not that into it.
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I don't watch European soccer, none of that stuff. But
when it comes to World Cup, when it comes time
to representing countries, I just feel like the Olympics, there's
just a little more oop to it, and that's fun
and I dig it.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Well, there's a lot of oomph to this. Forty eight
different teams are going to be our countries are going
to be represented at this year's World Cup. There, I
mean all the groupings, they're four in each group. I
mean there's a Group L. That's how many teams are
in this World Cup this year. So eight different teams
like Group A for example, which I like to call
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Group Andres Munos. This has got Mexico, South Africa, Korea
and Chechia in it. And then Group B, which I
like to call Group brash. It's got Canada, Bosnia, Herzegovina,
Katar and Switzerland. What a combination that is, right for
goodness sake. And then Group D is the one that
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of course the US is involved in, and that's going
to be Turkey, which apparently they've kind of put their
foot down. They don't want Turkey spelled the way we've
spelled it when I was a kid. They've changed the spelling,
have they on the nation Turkey? Now it's t U
r k I y e, which it was always just
like the bird. Yeah, I grew up in school, So
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they've changed the apparently the spelling on that because they
don't want to be associated with.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
The bird, I guess, or maybe have they been in
America they're putting I haven't looked at all of the pools,
but possibly they're putting how each country spells there.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. But it was in
our textbooks as just like the bird. That's how it
was always spelled. And so Turkey apparently put its foot down, like, no,
it's not spelled that way. Yeah, spell it correctly, Australia
is in our group, and then Paraguay is in our
group as well. And yes, if you want a translation,
that is two guys, that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
We got a text yesterday that someone when they heard
they were like, I can't stop laughing about Paraguay.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
They really went really.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Well, Uruguay's in this as well, which translated one guy Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I thought it was more of like when you're calling
someone a Guay, like, no, Uruguay.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Actually, you know what the actual translation of it is,
Paraguay is the river that gives birth to the sea. Okay,
So really for one word to say all of that,
and then Uruguay is the river of the painted birds.
So obviously Guay means water of some kind rivers, I guess.
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But for pair to mean gives birth to the sea, yeah,
and for your to mean painted birds, yeah, that is something.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
That is a that is different.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's a study how to say rivers. That is why
that is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Right there, I go down to the Columbia Guay this
summer hang out.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
All?
Speaker 6 (37:21):
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Speaker 1 (37:21):
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to you and welcome into the radio show called in
certain circles of America and beyond, Chuck and Buck in
the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Great
to have you with us on this special Thursday, historic Thursday,
the start of a really special month here in Seattle,
Washington and throughout the world. And we are going to
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dive into that and so many other subjects on today's
radio show that will last today four hours, an entire
four hours coming your way here on this Thursday. So
great to have you with us. My name is Chuck Powell.
Ashley Ryan is here as well. Beautiful morning. Undoubtedly. Driving
in here today, I don't know why, but I took
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particularly particular note of the space Needle. You know, now
that we're getting these earlier mornings that we get to
drive in and we get pure daylight, It's like the
space Needle was like beaming this morning. And I think
that even the Space Needle knows I need to look
my best today because the world's going to be watching
certain cities in an Erica starting today. And I think
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it woke up with an attitude today. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think Mount Rainier was in on that. Oh she
was out and shining. I was like, girl, you look good.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You've been working out. I thought, have you been doing
squats because your thighs look streamline?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And I was like, I am picking up what you
are putting down.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe it was. I don't know
why I particularly looked around this morning, but it seemed
like that it was like a golden sunrise was so
much more orange today. Yeah, and so yeah, so I
just spent a little more time looking around and kind
of soaking in our city on the drive end today,
and honestly, I wasn't thinking about soccer starting because I
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rarely think about soccer, so I wasn't really thinking about that.
But then I'm like looking around and like, everything looks
so beautiful today. And then I started putting the pieces together.
I'm like, I think, I think maybe the space needle
like had a little makeover last night or something like that,
decided to wash its hair. I don't know, you know,
it went down to the barber shop last night to
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make sure that it was looking tight, got a fresh cut, yeah,
and and ray near and everything else. So I think
we're ready. I think we're ready for the world to
evaluate us.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think we are too. And I had an interesting
thing because so I use it. I always put my
GPS on when I'm headed into work because since they've
done the Revive I five thing, when the express lanes
when I couldn't use the express lanes anymore. Sometimes if there
was an accident or something, I needed to know if
I needed to take an early detour to get around.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So I just yeah, so I'm just in the habit
now of I turn it on.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well today it said your route may be affected by
World Cup traffic.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Oh, And then when I got into town.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
All of a sudden, World Cup just appeared on the
bottom of my and I didn't click on it because
I was driving. I was like, but I'm curious, I
will know what if I click on that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What happens? Do I start a World Cup party?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Maybe? I'm not sure. I've never been here either. Yeah,
So I was like, this is new. I don't really
know how it turns out. World Cup never came to Brighton, Illinois.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Oh really, I would have thought that would have been
a hub.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, And there's no way they were ever gonna put
it in Phoenix, in Vegas, the other two places that
I love. One thousand degrees, that's true.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Although it's gonna be warm here, but that not a
thousand Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
He's going to be a thousand degrees in those two
cities today. Everybody knows it warm. But it's here. It's here,
And for a lot of you out there, you've been
waiting for this for a really long period of time.
I know we have more soccer fans in this country
than ever before. I know that the younger generations at
are love and have grown up liking and loving soccer
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more than past generation. Certainly my generation and even though
it's not my cup of tea. I certainly, over the
course of the next month don't want to spoil anything
for those people, because you know, you wait for it.
It's kind of Christmas for you, and I want you
to have the best Christmas you can possibly have. I
want you to get everything you want out of this experience.
And I certainly don't want to be the grumpy guy
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in the corner going hard. Why aren't we wanting baseball?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, that's the nice thing is we can watch both.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And I think it's you know, obviously I have. I've
always watched World Cup. I've always enjoyed that. That's pretty
much the only soccer I watch.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But it is different.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Having going on in your own horse down for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's like, okay, well yeah, I got to pay a
little extra attention to it now.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And like I said earlier this week, when we were
openly discussing, how are we going to do this, I mean,
I mean, we're not going to sit here a whole
time talking soccer. That's the disservice to everybody. That's even
a disservice to soccer fans. You don't want me talking
that much soccer. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'd be like, well, there's guys running around.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, on the pitch. But we will do our
best to lend what kind of color we can to
the experience without it distracting from the hunger that we
all have still for the Mariners season, the Seahawks off season.
We are world champs, you know, yeah, I heard that,
and the NBA Finals, which really is where we start today.
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We've got to sink our teeth into this topic, our
first big topic of the day. And look, I've been
in this business a while, you know. I started in
sports talk radio when I was nineteen years old, for
goodness sake, and I just turned fifty five last week.
I'm not sure what you and Fain said last week.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He said happy birthday and that you were fifty five
and that I'd never heard it called double Nichols before.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, the old double Nickls.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I gave you.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Lots of birthday love.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I heard that. I heard that. Yes, so I appreciate that.
But so I mean, do the math. That's thirty six
years in this in this business, and there are a
lot of things that I think talk show hosts, sports
talk show hosts particularly fall prey to I think they
do fall or too often. I think they're always looking
for that big, giant, bold take rather than having a
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reasonable response to what we watched the night before or
what we experienced. The sports fans and so I think
over time, and I think sports fans are guilty of
this as well. We use the word choke way too frequently. Yeah,
and I try to use it sparingly. I don't think
that a lot of losses are because a team cracked
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under the pressure, because that's what a choke job is.
You crack under the pressure of the moment and you
are not rising to your abilities because you are feeling
that pressure, the weight of that pressure, and it's keeping
you from performing the way that you would normally perform.
That is a choke job. Not blowing a lead, because
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sometimes the other team just outplays you. That's not choking.
Most of the time it's not choking. The team didn't
lose because they fell victim to the pressure of the
moment and that's what threw them off their game. But
obviously there have been cases over sports history where yes,
that's a choke job. You choked that away, you had
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that in the bag and you choked it away. The
biggest example of my entire lifetime. Now, I can't go
back beyond that to tell you, because you know, you
can read about something and you can see highlights of
something that happened before your time, but if you didn't
experience it blow for blow, then you really don't. You
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can't take into account just how much of a choke
job that was. So in my lifetime, the biggest choke
job that I've ever experienced, the standard, the one that
you would have the picture in the in the dictionary
of that person that face as Jean Vandervelt. That's nineteen
ninety nine Carnousti. That was I've got my first major
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in my back pocket. I'm going in with a five
stroke lead in to date number four of the tournament.
I have a three stroke lead on the final hole
of the tournament. The only thing that's going to keep
me from that is a triple bogie on the last hole,
and who would do that? And who would do that?
And then a series of some of the worst golf
shots you've ever seen on the eighteenth hole that ended
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up with Jean Vandervelt at one point with his pant
legs pant legs rolled up to his kneecaps, trying to
putt or trying to wedge out of water. Oh that's fun. Yeah,
that was the picture. That was the embodiment of the
greatest choke job I've ever seen. He succumbed to the
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pressure of the moment and could not finish the job.
It ended up going into an extra hole and he
ends up losing his one shot at a major in
his career. That's choking away a big lead. That's choking
away a big moment in your career. That to me
was the signature choke job of my entire life being
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a sports fan and a sports talk show host.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Until last night, I was like, is he gonna say
last night was a show?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Because I thought it was until last night that now
is the standard. I am a thousand percent with Charles
Barkley on this one. That that could. I mean, everybody
keeps calling it a comeback last night for the next
to comeback from twenty nine points, and certainly they played
their part, but that had so much more to do
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with the Spurs collapsing. Yeah, they looked panicked, choking it away,
playing the dumbest brand of basketball that you could play
with a twenty nine point lead, or a fifteen point
fourth quarter lead like they had, or a twelve point
lead with four minutes to go like they had, or
a nine point lead with you know, three and a
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half minutes to go like they had, or a even
a one point lead with nine seconds to go, and
dearon Fox is attacking the rim at that point rather
than pulling the ball out with his speed and quickness,
trying to take as much time off the clock and
letting them foul you and send you to the free
throw line and leaving having a three point lead at
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that point with maybe four seconds to go, three seconds
to go, rather than getting your shot blocked by a
guy who's a foot taller than you, and then they
get the ball back and have a chance to take
the lead, which they did on a miraculous kind of
lucky tip that they got down the stretch. That was
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as bad as you can choke something away as I
think I've ever seen in the history of watching professional sports.
And I won't ever hang that on a college kid.
But when you're in the pros, I don't care if
you are young and untested at this level, on this stage,
you defeated Oklahoma City. You didn't have much trouble with that,
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and here you are with a twenty nine point lead
at Madison Square Garden. You've completely taken the crowd out
of the game. It is theirs for the taking, and
you just elect to play the laziest, sloppiest, scaredest version
of basketball that a team can play. Ashley, make no
mistake about it. This was not a comeback. This was
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a collapse by the San Antonio Spurs last night.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, and I completely agree. It was like watching a
train wreck. Like I was just like in slow motion.
How are they continuing to do this? And it's not
like they didn't know that New York is capable of this.
New York did this to the Cavaliers. They can come
back from a big deficit. They're not going to give up.
They're scrappy. So just keep playing the playing basketball the
way you play basketball, and don't all of a sudden
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change everything.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I had no idea. Well, actually I disagree with that part,
because you do change something when you're up twenty nine,
just as Charles was talking about last night, you do
change the way you're playing. You do try to milk
some clocks yet at some point, yes, you do try
to work the interior. You do try to look for
the best shots possible, because all you really need are
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two points at this point, need any points that you can.
And then you need to milk away the clock and
the combination of those two things. Don't play scared, but
you do it just the way that you play. Not
the Spurs last night. And this has to go on
our guy Mitch Johnson as well, because I think he
froze in the moment. He choked it away as much
as any of the players last night. And that is
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you just keep throwing up threes. You're rushing to throw
up threes. Why are you shooting any threes up twenty
nine points in the second half if you don't have
to unless it's a wide open look. And yet the
entire team just decided that's all we have at our disposal.
There's no other way to play basketball than to shoot
(13:42):
a three. And they just shot themselves out of out
of a huge lead. They made silly mistakes, silly turnovers.
I mean, they just weren't playing like a team with
the lead in the NBA Finals and it cost them.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, And when I was saying don't change any play.
I meant, like, don't all of a sudden, it seemed
like they were, like, I guess, just afraid they weren't
playing with the confidence that he had had before. And
as far as the threes, Yeah, I was yelling at
the television. I mean, if you're going to throw up
a three, at least wait for the shot clock to
wind down. Don't throw it up when you've still got
twenty seconds on a shot clock, Like that's just a
(14:19):
waste of a possession.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You have a seven foot five inch big man, Yeah,
get him the ball and the paint and they can
foul him, yeah, exactly, or he can or he scores
and you work it for a good field goal attempt.
And that just I mean, if you were going to
if you were to ride up a game plan for
how could we blow a twenty nine point with our
(14:43):
talent and our defensive capabilities, how could we do it?
Let's let's talk about it. Let's brainstorm this. You don't
get out the whiteboard. How could we blow a twenty
nine point lead in the second half of Game four
the NBA Finals? How would we go about doing that?
And that's what you would draw up? I got an idea,
what if we never used the clock and never went
(15:04):
inside the three point line, and then what if we
fumbled away a bunch of opportunities to score, and what
if we stopped playing defense?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And what if as we're collapsing, we don't call a
time out and we just let things continue until we
only have a four point lead, and then we decide, oh, yeah,
we should probably call a timeout now.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what happened to
the collective last night. Daron Fox seemed to be the
only one that wasn't scared of the moment, and yet
he was playing the dumbest brand of basketball. So everybody
else looks scared, including Wemby, including Mitch Johnson, and then
Daron Fox is like, well, I'm not scared. I'm just
(15:43):
gonna be stupid down the stretch. And that combination that's
the only way you blow that. Yes, you implement that
combination of things, and that's what they ended up doing
last night. I mean, it is the new standard for me.
It has past John Vandervelt and by the way, Glenbignyam
(16:03):
and Vandevelt both French. So I don't know, does that
tell you yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm
gonna have to look through your war history. I don't
think it's all that sterling, but maybe you don't really
know how to capitalize in the moment. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It was sure disappointing to watch too.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I mean, you know it was it.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Did it make it for an exciting game at the end, Yeah, sure,
But I don't want to watch a team just completely
fall apart. I don't want to watch a team blow
somebody out, But I'd rather watch a blowout than watch
a team just completely fall apart and poop themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, it was. It was highly disappointing, and I get it.
It made an incredible moment that people are never going
to forget. Yeah, and certainly Knicks fans will think about it.
And I talk about a statue of the Anonobe t
Yeah for sure, Yeah, that's probably going to happen. And
Anonoby was great down the stretch for and Brunson's an assassin.
(16:58):
As we've talked about time and time again, he's just
unworldly in the fourth quarter, He's just so confident with
everything that he does when the game is on the line.
So there were a lot of elements where the Knicks
sees the opportunity, but they were still turning the ball over. Yeah,
Josh Hart missed a layup.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, exactly, well, and then you found Okay, Now the Knicks,
or now the Spurs, have some reprieve for their stupidity.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's not like they just seized every opportunity. It was
San Antonio just giving them an opportunity time and time
out to get back into a game they should have
never gotten back into. And I agree with Draymond when
he said, when Karl Anthony Towns sit that fallaway three
into the bench to cut it to twelve, I mean,
(17:43):
how many games have you watched? Basketball games? Have you
watched when the other team cut it to twelve, you
knew it was over. Yeah, the team down by twelve
was gonna win the game. And he said it, and
I thought the exact same thing. I'm like, cause it
was you'd already gutted seventeen points of that and you
had all the moment them and the place is going crazy,
and you could see the Spurs players gripping and stressing,
(18:04):
and you're right, Mitch Johnson wasn't doing anything to take
over the moment to try to you know, stunt the
momentum that was taking place at that time, and when
he hit that fallaway three, I'm like, oh, now they're
gonna start getting all the garbage to go their way
as well. It's like the basketball gods are on their
side at this point. They cut the lead to twelve
(18:25):
with like five minutes to go, and I'm like, this
game's over. The Knicks have won it. And it was
funny to hear Draymond Green say the same thing in
the postgame analsis.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I was just watching thinking like, is there some
miracle that the Spurs can grab onto just to hang
on to this because I didn't think the Spurs were
going to do anything to to in the last minute
or two to all of a sudden, you know, take
make a run and dominate and get a you know,
eight point win. But I thought, is there just something
that they could hold on to so that the Knicks
(18:57):
don't complete the full comeback?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And sure enough, there was no well plenty of opportunities
for that to happen, and even like I said, even
all the way down into the last few seconds, they
just still were like no, no, no, no, no, We're
gonna choke this away. No no, I mean, I know
they gave us another opportunity to to cement this thing,
but no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna miss two free
throws from our best player, who's an eighty six percent
(19:18):
free throw shooter. We're gonna every opportunity that they give
us to cement this thing. We're we're just gonna add
water to it and just keep it loose so that
they have they have every chance to come back and
pull off history. And that's what we watched last night.
And so a lot of credit to the Knicks, don't
get me wrong, a lot of credit to the Knicks.
(19:40):
But I think it I'm with Charles, I'm with Raymond.
I think it had a lot more to do with
San Antonio collapsing than it did the New York Knicks
coming back in that contest. All right, let's find out
what's on tap for the rest of the show. What's
on TEP? What's on TEP?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
All right?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
What else?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
One? Six? Nixt win it over these Spurs. They're up
three games to one in the series. They can clinch
it in San Antonio on Saturday. I do now think
it's over. I don't think you come back from this.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I don't know how you do, because just mentally, that's
hard to wrap your mind around.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Spencer Hawes is gonna join us. I don't think he's
even gonna want to at eight o'clock today, but we
have to get his thoughts on his buddy, Mitch Johnson
and the Spurs falling apart. Last night, Sanley Cup Final
reaches game number five. It will return to Carolina tonight.
The series is even at two games apiece. Many are
calling it the most evenly fought, best fought Stanley Cup
(20:38):
Final maybe ever. We'll see if that continues tonight, starting
at five o'clock. Of course, the World Cup is here,
and we're gonna spend the quite a bit of time
today discussing that, including a Green Jacket draft today. At
nine o'clock. We were like, all right, Doe, do we
want Anders or Jackson on the show today, and then
we decided both so like yeah, yeah, So they're both
(21:01):
going to be joining us for our World Cup preview,
our Green Jacket draft coming up today at nine o'clock.
Seahawks mandatory mini camp continues. We'll continue with our Seahawks
one series today and also Greg Bell's going to join
us at seven oh five to talk about the Hawks
College World Series starts tomorrow. It's an annual tradition. I
know there's a lot going on today, but we do
(21:22):
have to check in with Kyle Peterson, Bucky's buddy, even
though Bucky's not here. So Kyle Peterson will join us
today at seven thirty to talk about the College World Series,
which starts tomorrow. A lot of world things apparently are
going to be determined. And of course we have our
baseball team that just decided last night. You know we
don't need this one. Yeah, yeah, you know what, Yeah,
(21:43):
we might have stolen a couple of games here in
Baltimore's Let's see.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Some good pitching for a while and then let's just
see what happens after that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, let's just get our bullpen rested. That's the goal tonight.
And so they lost last night to the Baltimore Orioles
seven to two. They will finish the series tonight. Problem
with kicking game like that is, now you've got to
beat a really good pitcher in Kyle Bradish to win
the series, and that's not going to be easy. First
pitches at four o'clock Mariners put Matt Brash on the il.
(22:10):
They put Ryan Bliss back down to Tacoma. That was
odd timing to activate Miles master Bony and of course
Cal is in Tacoma. He will play tonight after a
night off last night at seven five, So we'll talk
about all of this stuff. We've got Mariners morning after
coming your way next on Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. Well like last night in Baltimore, Yeah, those
(22:33):
were two tight games. They could have easily gone Baltimore's
way both of them, and you come away with both victories.
Think about I mean, we talked about it a lot
yesterday about how crazy that game was on Tuesday. The
you had three not only do you have three guys
for the Orioles got thrown out at home? Yeah, which
(22:54):
how often do you see that in a game three
players from the opposing any either team, that it's thrown
out at home, But for them to get thrown out
by the narrowest of margins, all three of them, and
we got the benefit of all three of the calls. Yeah,
we were living living dangerously. Yeah, we were living dangerously.
We were living pretty good life there for the first
(23:17):
two days and certainly you want to get greedy if
you're the Mariners. And they didn't go into the game thinking, wow,
we've got two, let's just kick this one. But it
did kind of feel like, George, if we're gonna win
this one, it's all on you, buddy. Yeah, that's what
they did. It felt very much like that. And Kirby,
(23:37):
who's not been pitching all that well as of late,
pitched great last night. Through six innings, George Shed allowed
just four hits, no runs, he'd struck out seven batters
and was sitting in beautiful position at seventy four pitches.
He'd been very efficient to that point, and so everything
was going swimmingly from the pitching front, and yeah, you
(23:59):
had a shot. Yeah you were in the ball game.
We were tied through six innings, even though the offense
decided not to show up last night against Brandon Young,
who I mentioned several times he's been having a good year.
But that's not that very talented pitcher, that's not Cy Young.
That's Brandon Young out there on the mound. And yet
he was shutting out the Mariners for seven innings last night.
(24:24):
And so you go to the bottom of the seventh
and excuse me, the bottom of the sixth, and you're
all squared up at zero zero. George had been flying
around through five innings at that stage. It was through
five innings, not six innings. Five innings, seventy four pitches,
four hits allowed, seven k's, and then the first battery
faces in the bottom of the sixth. Does this what
(24:44):
two lost?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Paul's really smoke dot to center field? Julio track oh
gone oriole strength perts at the bottom of the.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Sixth, Pete Alonzo at the home run. He can do
that too, but George had dominated him in the first
two at bats against Alonso, just blew them away with fastballs,
and then Pete Alonzo gets one, knocks it over the wall,
makes it one to nothing at that point, and then
the world kind of caved in on George. He hadn't
really given up much hard contact throughout the game, but
(25:19):
in that inning he gave up three extra base hits.
He ends up giving up three runs, and man, you
just didn't see it happening that quickly. I mean, he
was in beautiful position. Ashley five through five, seventy four pitches,
no runs allowed, striking out over a batterIn inning and
he struck out the side that inning, and yet he
got tagged as well.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I was. I was surprised, not by how he
had started the game. I thought, wow, okay, good is
like this is the George we've been wanting to see.
So I guess maybe a little bit surprised there, but
then yeah, for it to have turned as quickly as
it did, I was like, wait.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, third time threw the lineup, and there's nothing I
would have done differently if I was Dan. He couldn't
foresee that in the sixth inning George was suddenly going
to start giving up such hard contact that he did,
and that was three to nothing at that point, and
it just felt like last night, like that's too much
to overcome tonight, And it proved to be. Here's George
(26:14):
after the game.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You know, I've been there's been a lot of moments,
you know, come up this year, the last month, you know,
kind of like fight or flight moment, and you know,
I feel.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Like I've been doing a good job of that, you know, mentally, and.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You know, well, you know those results will start to
come my way eventually, but thinking about it the right
way and doing the right thing.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
So man, I get one zero and then you know
it's game over. So he seemed so much more well
equipped to be able to work through some of these
challenges maybe a few years ago. Does it feel that
way or something?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean like this game finds a way to
slap you in the face all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
So the more and more you go through them, the
more you learned from it. So that's what I'm trying
to do.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And I'm still gonna be mad, still gonna be angry,
but use it and you know a different way to
approach the next start.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He knows himself. But this is the best part though.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's like this George now is instead of He's like,
I'm still going to be mad. I'm still going to
be angry, but he's not like I'm ef a mad
like old George would have been. I kind of missed
the old angry.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't know. I don't know how really to. I
don't think he uses it to his benefit. There are
some players that use their anger to their benefit. But
I mean, you heard it in the statement, and maybe
people don't catch it. I catch that when you say
you know you're pitching great and you feel like you're
having a good day. And then you give up a
(27:47):
home run, the game's over, right. It was one to
nothing at that point, and that's how he unfortunately thinks
like I didn't get any I'm not getting any run support,
I'm pitching great, and then I give up a home run,
It's probably over And I think he carries that to
the next pitch. Yeah, when he has somebody botcha play,
he carries it to the next pitch. When he beats
(28:10):
a hitter, and yet the hitter hits a little flare
that he had no business getting a hit off of
into right field, he carries it into the next pitch
and the next at bat when he walks a guy
because he has so much pride in his control. When
he walks a guy, he carries it into the next pitch.
You can't do that as a professional baseball player. He's
(28:31):
as talented as any pitcher as we have, maybe the
most talented pitcher that we have, and yet he lets
that stuff bother him. And if it makes you angry
and focuses you more, great. Plenty of people are better
when they're angry playing sports. But when it makes you worse,
(28:51):
you know, I mean, if your mindset was no there
you go, I gave you up a home run, game's
over because this team can't score for me. If that's
your mentality, then guess what's gonna happen. Two more guys
are going to tag you before you get out of
an inning, and the next thing you know, it's three
to nothing. And I will say this because I didn't
feel this way once it was three to nothing. The
(29:14):
Mariners did kind of fold, like there was this element of, Hey,
we're out here to try to win this ball game,
but it's all going to be on George whether he
gets us there, because if we fall behind by any margin,
we're not going to go rescue him. We don't have
the pen depth right now to go rescue him. And
then we've called up a couple of minor league pitchers
(29:36):
to fill it out, and they just let Domingo go.
I mean, three to nothing's not that big of a hole,
but we're gonna send Gonzales out there. Just called him
up from Tacoma, and there was no thought given to
going to anyone else once they were down three to nothing.
The goal of Dan Wilson and the organization, and I
know they talked about it beforehand, was we're all right,
(29:58):
if we kick this game. The goal tonight is to
get our bullpen healthy again, to get our bullpen rested,
because we got to play again tomorrow, and we got
to play again a weekend series and we don't have
an off day. So yes, they were out to win
last night, but once they fell behind two nothing, three
to nothing, that was a little part of George as well, like,
(30:18):
you didn't take me all the game. I'm goodn't tagging
We've still had a chance to win it. And then
obviously you didn't even care enough to come back and
try to come back from a three to nothing deficit.
I think there's truth to that. I don't think they
tried their hardest to try to come back and win
last night.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I don't think they did either.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And then that just makes me even more annoyed by
this six man rotation because we're kicking games basically because
we can't figure out the bullpen situation.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I actually had piggyback bourbon last night. Oh was it delicious.
It was very good. It's so good. I was trying
to drink the piggyback back into existing.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
So you need your piggyback, piggyback piggyback.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So a seven to two loss, that's what it ended up.
Jackson Holliday ended up hitting a Grand Slam for the ore.
So the Mariners said at thirty six and thirty three
and again, I mean that's one thing, all right, We're
putting this all on George. If it doesn't happen, that's okay.
Our goal really is to reset the bullpen on tonight.
I'm fine, But now, all of a sudden, you are
(31:16):
at risk of not winning this series, which at this
stage would be awful.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
That would be very dissipping.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, I mean, you gotta win this series. And you're
facing their best pitcher tonight. I think we may be
throwing hours as well and Brian Wu. But Kyle Bradish
versus Brian Wu's going to be a heck of a
pitching matchup. And how many series end where the last
game of the series starts later than the first three? Yeah,
that is weird. I was like, oh, is it a
(31:43):
noon game?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No, okay, no, because that would be weird, right, Why
would we have a noon game?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
No four o'clock? So a later start on Game four
of the series tonight in Baltimore, And it's because they
just have a train ride to Washington after the game
is over. So there you go this morning after and
we will have ABC's of the ms coming up later
on in the show as well. But there's so much
more to discuss, and today's a bit of a sports
(32:10):
holiday and we'll dive into that next Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM. But he might also be a
soccer fan, because I don't know, at least a soccer
fan for Seattle, because he has made one beautiful day
out there. Oh my goodness, is that per picturesque? It is?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I actually went out to get something off the printer
and I had to stand there and just take it
all in front.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I had to stand there and take it all in,
didn't you?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
And then I was like, you know what, God, Mother Nature.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You're a great duo.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah. They must have their scarves on and drinking their
craft beer or that mother Nature.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Ye put the scarves up, right, scarves up.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
They are ready for soccer in Seattle. Sad. That's just
knowing what we're talking about, not really, but but happy
World Cup day. And again, I don't know how often
I'll repeat this, but maybe a lot, maybe little. I
don't know, I don't really particularly like this sport, but
I don't want it to interfere with I don't want
(33:08):
to be the person that's like boring, you know, like
because people do that to baseball. Yeah, and all that
aren't baseball fans. Oh it's so slow moving. If they're
so boring, and they'll do it at like the most
ramped up that you are to watch a baseball game,
and they just do it to take the wind, try
to take the wind out of your sales. And I
(33:29):
just think it's low class. So I am not going
to be that for soccer fans. I want soccer fans,
especially those in Seattle, especially our two little lovable gems here,
Jackson and Anders, to just have a ball. I want them
to have just the best month with this. So I
hope it goes well. Like community wise, yes, you know,
(33:50):
I hope. I hope everybody that's coming into the country
has a great time here. I think that you're going to.
I hope that we don't have turds that are out
there to try to disrupt other people's good time that
are coming here to visit our city and our nation
here today. But I'm just gonna trust that this is
going to go great. And if I'm going to judge
it by the weather, we're off to a tremendous start.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, it's again, it's exciting. I like soccer. I don't
love soccer like you, but I like World Cup. Every
four years you get something a little bit more amped
up to watch, and so there's more than just traditional soccer,
especially here in you know, with the MLS, which is
a perfectly fine product. I'm just not that into it.
(34:31):
I don't watch European soccer, none of that stuff. But
when it comes to World Cup, when it comes time
to representing countries, I just feel like the Olympics, there's
just a little more oop to it, and that's fun
and I dig it.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Well, there's a lot of oomph to this. Forty eight
different teams are going to be our countries are going
to be represented at this year's World Cup. There, I
mean all the groupings, they're four in each group. I
mean there's a Group L. That's how many teams are
in this World Cup this year. So eight different teams
like Group A for example, which I like to call
(35:04):
Group Andres Munos. This has got Mexico, South Africa, Korea
and Chechia in it. And then Group B, which I
like to call Group brash. It's got Canada, Bosnia, Herzegovina,
Katar and Switzerland. What a combination that is, right for
goodness sake. And then Group D is the one that
(35:25):
of course the US is involved in, and that's going
to be Turkey, which apparently they've kind of put their
foot down. They don't want Turkey spelled the way we've
spelled it when I was a kid. They've changed the spelling,
have they on the nation Turkey? Now it's t U
r k I y e, which it was always just
like the bird. Yeah, I grew up in school, So
(35:45):
they've changed the apparently the spelling on that because they
don't want to be associated with.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
The bird, I guess, or maybe have they been in
America they're putting I haven't looked at all of the pools,
but possibly they're putting how each country spells there.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. But it was in
our textbooks as just like the bird. That's how it
was always spelled. And so Turkey apparently put its foot down, like, no,
it's not spelled that way. Yeah, spell it correctly, Australia
is in our group, and then Paraguay is in our
group as well. And yes, if you want a translation,
that is two guys, that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
We got a text yesterday that someone when they heard
they were like, I can't stop laughing about Paraguay.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
They really went really.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Well, Uruguay's in this as well, which translated one guy Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I thought it was more of like when you're calling
someone a Guay, like, no, Uruguay.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Actually, you know what the actual translation of it is,
Paraguay is the river that gives birth to the sea. Okay,
So really for one word to say all of that,
and then Uruguay is the river of the painted birds.
So obviously Guay means water of some kind rivers, I guess.
(37:01):
But for pair to mean gives birth to the sea, yeah,
and for your to mean painted birds, yeah, that is something.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
That is a that is different.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's a study how to say rivers. That is why
that is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Right there, I go down to the Columbia Guay this
summer hang out.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
All?
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Coming down next Headlines and Greg Bell's gonna join US
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.