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June 8, 2026 35 mins
Headlines and What’s Up with Muni? By his own admission, Andres Munoz needs to pitch more and the numbers back that up… he doesn’t do well when he has had too much rest, so WHY do we continue to only put him in in save situations?? Chuck has the numbers… :30- The NBA Finals return to New York tonight as the Knicks look to go up 3-0 on the Spurs. Have the Knicks solved the Wemby issue or can the Spurs get right tonight? :45- The Mariners are in Baltimore for 4 games starting tonight and this isn’t the same struggling Orioles team. They’ve had a rough start to their season, but the O’s are hitting now and averaging 6 runs per game; so who will prevail? Their offense or our pitching staff?

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Down the line and fair rolling all the way towards
the corner.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Julio.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
It takes his time. He's touching home. He's waving home, Naylor.
Naylor was slowing down. Now puts down the gas pedal.
He is safe at home. Two runs in for the
ms A Rosarina into second three.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Nothing that plays.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Was a little closer at home than it looked like
it would be for a moment.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, I think they're gonna challenge this. You see who
we had waving in? Josh Now, Ye, he was slowing up.
So car does the third base coach waving him in?
Did he get that left hand underneath Dingla's glove? Oh,
it's gonna be close.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Naylor, who threw his sliding mitt as he was holding it,
not wearing it.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh my god, it's my favorite.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
He will do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
He is a different cat, do anything. Dingler eight, Your baby.
What I wanted to hear from Ryan Roland Smith, Alley
and Long Dylan Dingler eight, your baby.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
He really failed us, didn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, wouldn't be the first time.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
That time you were supposed to pick me up at
the airport.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Oh he left you there for days?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, for days.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I was there for eighteen days waiting for him a
long time. Good morning, welcome to our second hour here
on this Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Hope you all had a great weekend out there.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
It is Ashley Ryan and Chuck Powell with you Sports
Radio ninety three point three Kate j r FM. Our
Seahawks one series continues later on today at eight o'clock.
Jackson Bevans, a podcasting fame, will be joining us today.
He's always part of our Seahawks one series. Can't wait
to find out which player he wants to break.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Down for one entire interview. We'll do that today at
eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
We also have NBA Finals to discuss and more. Let
me first though, get to your headlines. They are brought
to you by Frostbrewed Corps like Choose Chill. Yeah, we
did win that wacky thing on Saturday, but the Mariners
lost Friday and Sunday against the Detroit Tigers, including a
five to four loss yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
That, frankly, that's just a game you're not supposed to lose.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I agreed.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
And so the team at thirty four and thirty two
gets ready to head to Baltimore, Maryland for a game
tonight three thirty five first pitch, one of four games
that are going to take up that they play pretty
much at the same time every day for the next
four days. So we got that whole three thirty to
six thirty block that is going to dominate our week

(02:46):
here as Mariner fans, and so that gets started tonight.
It'll be Emerson Hancock going up against Chris Bassett, who
has not been good this year, so let's take advantage.
First pitch at three thirty five. Not good to Yeah,
he's not left handed.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Okay, we'll see things are looking up already.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, three of the four starters we're gonna face right handed.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Because everyone figured out how good we are hitting lefties.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
College World Series.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Texas wins over Oregon last night and a thriller. They
punched their ticket to the College World Series. So that's
now occupied.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
The eight seats.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Six are occupied Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Ole, Miss Troy,
how about Troy getting in there? And West Virginia. Meanwhile,
there'll be two more spots decided today. There was rain
yesterday that washed out Kansas and Oklahoma, also Saint John's
and Alabama, So come hell or high water, they will

(03:43):
finish their series. They'll play their scheduled to play a
game and a half both of them today, So as
long as rain doesn't wash anything out again today, we
will know our eight teams in the.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
College World Series by the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
NBA Finals Game three tonight, five point thirty is your
tip the New York Knicks can go up three to oh.
They're saying that ticket prices minimum ticket price to get
into this game tonight at Madison Square Garden six thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
And then they also have decided that you can't, as
New York fans, hang out outside the stadium and watch
or like have your party there because the President's going tonight.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
So it's too much of a security risk.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know what, I'm just gonna buy ten tickets.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Ye might as well, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know that's really out to the listeners.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
And yeah, that's the crazy Who cares if you can't
make it to New York by five point thirty?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I mean, I don't care. It's just money.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Why don't we just get a private jet?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Stanley Cup Final Game four tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wow, are they raving about this this series? Good night,
Carolina is down two to one to Las Vegas. They'll
try to even things up against the good nights tonight
in Las Vegas. That's where the storm are as well.
Taken on the aces at seven o'clock tonight. And yes,
this is World Cup week.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It is here.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I know how beloved and treasured that this is for
soccer fans, football fans here in the Pacific Northwest. And
I'm just gonna vow right now, Ashley, I'm gonna do
my very best to make this month as wonderful as
I possibly can.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
You can do it. I have faith in you.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
We're gonna try. I really don't know what to say.
The nice thing.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
About World Cup is, you know what what it is,
right We know it's one tournament.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
So it's not like we're gonna have World Cup and.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Then there's some extra little matches on the side that
we don't know what they are. You're just you're just
trying to win. Just watching games, Yeah, watching wins.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I honestly mean this. I'm not a soccer fan. I
want all soccer.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Fans they can hear my voice right now, to have
the time of their life. And I really mean that
they will.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, for the next month, and especially our own little
soccer darlings, anders Hurst and sweet Cherubs. Oh those sweet, young,
impressionable boys.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
All right, well, let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I've already warned that what we were going to discuss
here in this segment, and it's going to be our closer,
Andres Munos, who blew his fifth save of the season yesterday.
He also has a three and four record. Because of
that loss yesterday to the Detroit Tigers. I've had a
few people reach out and say, are you finally going

(06:23):
to come around? I mean, I have Greg Bell pretty
much every time I leave the studio now saying still
believe in Munos, And I do.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Know.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I know it sounds crazy. I'm not being.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Stubborn about this. I'm really not. And I love Andres.
He's one of the nicest human beings. But it has
nothing to do My analysis has nothing to do with
how nice a person that I think he is. Even yesterday,
I saw a guy throwing his fastball as hard.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
As ever one hundred and one hundred and two miles prior.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
He just couldn't locate it yesterday, and I think that
has everything to do with the fact that he's being
pitched so infrequently this year, and by his own demands,
his own please, he.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Has said straight out of his mouth, I want to
pitch more.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
He's not need to pitching enough.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And so when you go five and a half days
without him seeing the mound, without seeing live action, and
he doesn't have his command at this stage, should we
be all that surprised by it? I mean, this is
an organization that has ton tons of data. They are
an analytics driven organization, and I think they've softened on

(07:34):
that in the last couple of years. The hiring of
Dan Wilson was a gesture of we're softening on analytics.
We've got to marry the two. As Bucky and I
have said since we started doing this show together, I
don't dislike analytics. I love analytics. I love what they've
done for the game. But anybody that married themselves to
them entirely is a fool, and anybody that won't use

(07:57):
them is a fool. And so right now, twenty twenty six,
you better being being marrying the two principles, not being
caught up in analytics, and yet make sure that you
are using them. Otherwise you're at a huge disadvantage. Every
single night, Well, here is an organization driven by this.
They're an analytics driven organization, and yet what we're watching

(08:23):
unfold is head scratching at best and almost hair pulling
for me that here's this isn't difficult data to find.
I don't need a nerd to look this up for me.
Andre's Munos does not do well when he's rested for
too long, by his own admission, and maybe Ashley, maybe

(08:44):
it is. Maybe it's now mental, maybe it's psychological with him.
Maybe he thinks he can't perform that way, and shame
on Andre's for that. He's got to get tougher, he's
got to get stronger, and there's no excuse for how
bad that he looked yesterday and not being able to
find the strike zone. But there might be reasons for it,
and to me, the reasons are, he's just better when

(09:06):
he's in a rhythm, and he can't get in a
rhythm because for whatever reason, and an analytics driven organization,
analytics wanted to bleed the closer out of the sport
when they started. It's unnecessary to have a guy designated
for the ninth inning. How silly is that you pitch
your best arm in the best matchups, whatever time in

(09:28):
the game that it requires you to need your best
arm out of the bullpen, you use him. That's what
the preaching of analytics was. And yet here we have
an analytics driven organization and a manager that will only
use Andre's munnos if we're up one or two runs

(09:49):
or tied after the eighth.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
That's the only time that he will ever use him.
And when you do it, when you.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Let that dictate how often you use a guy that
is begging to be used more, what happens you have
long stretches of time where the game situation does not
meet your requirements for usage of Andre Simunjos, And the
end result has been He's been very inconsistent. He has

(10:16):
at times looked completely out of rhythm, and the statistics
bear it out. He is struggling from lack of usage.
And it's so obvious, Ashley, I mean, I just scratched
these numbers together this morning.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I don't have a computer. I did this by hand.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
As a matter of fact, I'm an inning off. I
can't find an inning.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I can't find where there's a missing inning from this,
So these aren't going to be one thousand percent accurate.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Statistics.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
But I'm one inning off out of twenty one and
a third, so it won't change the entire result that
I've come up with. But if I can figure this
out using pad and paper.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Yeah, the analytics nerds should be just filled with that information.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's an entire organization. They are twenty of these guys.
They give them a phone book every day. This is
what these are the matchups, this is what we look for.
This is where he's strong, this is where they're weak.
They've got a phone book of this. And yet Dan
just keeps saying Nope, unless it's a save situation, then
Andres isn't gonna pitch. And even when Andres is saying,

(11:27):
I can't pitch that way, not as well as I
want to, but I'll wait until you call me and
I'll do my best.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
And yesterday it wasn't good enough. His best was not
good enough.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Erect was he was out of rhythm, two walks all
over the map, no command whatsoever. So here's the data,
this is what you're looking at. This is as simple
as could be with no day's rest. Andres Muno says
five games pitched, four and two thirds innings and one
run aloud. He has two saves and one blown save,

(12:01):
and he has lost two games, but four and two
thirds innings pitch, one run allowed. That's an zero point
nine to three era. When he has one day rest,
So that means like no day's rest is you're you're
going one day and then you're pitching the very next
which they don't like to do that period.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
They won't do it at all with Brash.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
One day between okay, so one day off Andres Muniez.
Five games pitched, five innings pitched, no runs allowed, nine strikeouts.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Two for two and save opportunities.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
When he has two days rest or more five games,
excuse me, two days just not more, just two days
two days rest, five games, four and a third innings pitched,
three runs allowed, three blown saves and one converted save.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
A six point two to three e er pikes.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
When he has three or days three or more days
off seven games, now, let's stop right there. Yeah, he's
pitching more on three or more days rest than in
any other scenario that I've outlined for you here. That's ridiculous, right, yeah,
this is him saying I'm doing this, You're not pitching

(13:21):
me enough. So five games, five games, five games, seven
games that he's pitched on three days rest or more
an eleven point three seven ERA. Now, he does have
four saves, he's blown one save, and he's lost two games.

(13:43):
And keep in mind that five run outing against the
Padres is in this, so that does whack the numbers considerably.
But let's take the two together. Okay, and again I'm
missing an inning. I'm also and I'm not cherry picking
because I don't know what any I miss. H I
didn't choose the first two games of the year against

(14:05):
Cleveland because we're coming out.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Of the gates. Yeah, you know I didn't even use those. Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Ten games on one day rest or less a combined
zero point nine to three er. Twelve games with two
days rest or more a combined nine point two eight er.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
If only there were some numbers to show that he
does better with less rest All right, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Right, you got a phone book worth of data. Yeah,
and you won't even just basic surface stuff. Oh, this guy,
when you pitch him more is better.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah, if you pitch him every other day, he's actually
very very very good.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Turns out he was right.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, it turns out when he said he wanted to
pitch more, wasn't pitching enough.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Might have known what he was talking about. Now, look,
I'm not gonna be perfect.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm not going to excuse him. Be tougher, be better.
Why is that messing you up so much? Right?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, Andres has not been very good this year. He
was elite the last couple of years. He's not been
very good. But I still saw a guy that was
throwing one hundred and one hundred and two. We don't
have a guy with that kind of fastball other than
Andre's Munnos.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
He has an unhittable slider.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Pete Woodworth calls it the most unhittable pitch in the
entire sport. When he's got it. When he's on, and
he's dominating righties this year, dominating them.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's absolutely dominating.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
So what about this as a compromise, Because I know
a lot of people wont him out of the closers role.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
How about we just say you don't close.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's not your only job, but we're not going to
use you just when there's a save opportunity. We will
use you on a Friday night down two because you
need some work and because we're a bloop and a
blast away from possibly tying up, and we've just seized

(16:09):
momentum of this Friday night game. As opposed to using
our worst reliever, who goes out there in the eighth
and in a blink of an eye you're down four.
In the game's over, the game is out of reach.
How about we not use him as a closer purely.
I still want him when it works the right way.

(16:31):
He's getting the ball for me. I mean the stuff
to me that he doesn't look injured, he doesn't look tired.
The stuff to me looks like closer stuff. He's struggling
against left handers, and he's struggling with command when he
has sat for too long. Those are the two issues
with Andres Munnos. But we want this guy to be great,

(16:55):
and the stuff is there, so let's get him right.
That's all that matters, getting right. And I think what
gets him right is pitching him more frequently. And if
that means he's not the guy, we just don't use
him for every save. Fine, I'm a thousand percent okay
with that. Frere can get the job done, Brash can

(17:16):
get the job done. Gabe Spire is better than anybody
coming out of our bullpen right now, I guarantee you
Gabe Spire.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Can get us saves right now, I would think. So
I don't need.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Andres Munjos to get us every save. What I need
from Andres Munos is for him not to wait five
six days before he pitches again. That's what I need
from Andre's And I don't care if it's a scenario
like Friday where he's given the ball because we're a
bloop and a blast away from possibly coming back and
winning this game, and he needs work because we have

(17:46):
sat him for four straight days. I don't care if
it's Saturday, when we're up four to nothing, use him
in the ninth. Why does there have to be a
save attached to it? And then yesterday, finally he gets
his chance. He's chopping at the bit, he's throwing harder
than he ever has. He was certainly fresh, but the
five days off he looked as rusty as you could
possibly look. He had zero command out there on the mound.

(18:10):
How does that not ring a bell and somebody's head
in that organization. Dan Wilson's a very smart person, So
is Maniacta.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
So is Pete Woodworth. So is Jerry Depoto, So is
Justin Hollander. How is that not ringing a bell? But
the reason that he's struggling is because he's not pitching.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Enough, and especially with the creativity that these guys have
shown that they're already willing to do with this pitching staff,
I mean the piggyback situation and going between that and
the six man rotation to.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Figure out what works best for people.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
I don't know why you would be so flexible when
it comes to these six starters, But then when it
comes to your bullpen, it's gee.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, he has to pitch here, he has.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
To Yes, yes, Why not use the same thought process,
the same mantra with your bullpen as you're using with
your starting pitch.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well, that's just it.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Like in an analytics world in the modern day, you
mix and match. You do base it on who you're
getting ready to face and who the best matchups are.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
We're doing that while we're also trying to keep people
in these old school boxes. Andre's munnos can only pitch
if there's a save on the line. That is rubbish.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, use there.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
You have great pitchers, use them in the moments in
each game. Like, ooh, actually, this would be a great
plan for this person. This would be a great Oh
you know what, Mooney hasn't hasn't pitched since Wednesday, Let's
use him.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Munjos is dominating right handers, even with how poorly he's look,
he's dominating right handers.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
You know, it's not it's not a terrible idea that, hey,
we need to get him.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
He needs to pitch today, and right now it's tied,
and I know it's the seventh inning, but they've got
a steady flow of right handers coming up. Use Munjos then,
and then we can trust somebody else to get a
save in the ninth inning, since we can't trust Andres
to get a save in the ninth inning right now,

(20:09):
especially when he's on three or more days rest. I
don't think this is a difficult problem to solve. And
trust me, all of those that want to chase Andres
Munyos out of town, we want to solve this, right.
We want Andres to be good because he has shown
he can be elite coming out of the pen.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
And you just don't walk away from guys like that.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
And so let's get him right and on most nights,
if it works out that way.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I want him closing for us.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Even now, even with five blown saves before June eighth,
I want him closing for us. But I don't want
to make Andres Munno's only pitch in save situations because
it's ruining his season.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Andrew doing yourselves a disservice too.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
I mean, you're he's not pitching at his best and
that they're for is hurting your team. So I don't
know why you wouldn't think outside the box a little
bit more.

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Speaker 2 (22:17):
NBA Finals are going to take place tonight, game number
three between the Spurs and the New York Knicks. I
don't think the Knicks are playing as well as they
were the previous what eleven wins in a row, but
certainly they're playing really great basketball down the stretch, and
I give them all the credit in the world. I mean,
that is the goal. That is the design of a

(22:38):
sports season, is that you want to be playing your best.
You want to use the entire arc of your season
and that continue. That includes the off season, the preseason,
the regular season, managing injuries, getting to know one another,
and you want that to culminate with you playing your
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(22:59):
whatever it is that you're playing at the right time.
And that's the Knicks. That's what they have done this year.
They are playing the best basketball in the world as
a team right now. I think maybe they're playing better
basketball than anyone else is playing any sport right now.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Well, and especially I mean you look at the last
game or last I guess it was, yeah, the last game,
last two games. Just how much other people are stepping
up because you've got Jalen Brunson and you've seen that
he's incredible and what he can do real. But now
you've got you know, Karl Anthony Towns, who's like, hey,
you know, I'm here and I'm actually really good too.
So I'll just you know, if Jalen's having a little
bit of an off night before the fourth quarter, I

(23:34):
got us.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah. I think Jalen Brunson is just an assassin. I
mean he is. You know, we just got done talking
about a closer. I mean, he's got that closer mentality.
He's got that Mariano Rivera mentality like I I will
make the last shot, there's no doubt. You better not give.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
It to me.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
And I don't even care if I have a good
angle at the basket. I'm just gonna throw it up
and it's going to go in. You know, that's kind
of his mentality. But more of this series, it's two
to nothing because the Spurs have not played as well
and maybe they felt as a young.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Team once again.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know, it's not just to get to the finals.
They always say a young team's gotta have some sort
of failure before they realize what it takes to get
through four series. You gotta win sixteen games, and they
did a tremendous job winning twelve, and they knocked out
the Oklahoma City Thunder, but then at home the last

(24:28):
two games. I don't think it's necessarily been about how
great the Knicks have been, because I don't think they've
been as good as they were in their previous eleven games.
I think it has been the Spurs have just not
responded to the moment to the stage, and Wimby has
not responded to the moment or the stage. And maybe
it is Carl Anthony Towns that's taken him out of

(24:51):
his game. And this is somebody that I think at
one point was labeled a little soft and whether or
not you could build an organization around him, because the
Timberwolves tried to do that once upon a time ball
whatever he's learned. And I think it goes back to
two coaches. Tibbs, who was a defensive minded head coach
who was there in New York and maybe he couldn't

(25:11):
get him over the top, like Mike Brown looks like
he's going to get him over the top, but he's
certainly instilled in him, hey man, you got to be
great on both ends of the floor, which I don't
think Carl Anthony Towns ever was. And then once that
was instilled in him, then Mike Brown's kind of taking him.
Mike Brown's more of the you can be the best
out there kind of coach, uh, and he's taken him

(25:33):
the rest of the way. We're looking at a great
player right now and Carl Anthony Towns and we're looking
at a cold blooded assassin and Jalen Brunson. And then
as a group, they play as well together as anyone
in sports right now.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Well, and with the how well they're playing too, the
Spurs just can't beat themselves.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
And that's what they did in the last game.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
I mean, they they blew their opportunity to win that
game with the with Wemby getting that rebound and then
passing to Castle off his back, and I mean, you
know all, but that's the inexperience, that's the young players
on that team. And so you can't give the Knicks
for how well they're playing anything like any advantage.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
And that should have been the Spurs game. You should
be going to New York right now, one to one.
But instead, Yeah, the.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
Spurs took advantage of or the Knicks took advantage of
the Spurs mistakes.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
And I don't think they're done. I think they could.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know, I heard a conversation this morning, do they
have a chance, And one of the answers that one
of the panelists gave was no, of course they have
a chance. Of course they can go and steal Game
three and Wemby can play out of his mind and
that changes the series. I mean, but you got to
win tonight. You can't lose again tonight and think that
you're going.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
To come back. That's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
But certainly Wemby can go out there and have a
legendary game, steal Game three and you're right back in
the series and it's suddenly interesting again. But I do
get a kick. I love that inside the NBA has
the finals. They never get the finals, but they have
the finals, so they're gonna get the last word.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
On the season. And look, I love Charles Barkley.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I really do. I think he's great, great for basketball.
He is one of the best TV personalities of all time.
And I also appreciate, you know, as a sports talk
show of myself that sometimes listeners are like, hey, you
just said that like two hours ago. Yeah, well yeah,
because we're taught you have a different audience turns over

(27:27):
all the time, and I can't change my opinion. So
if the audience is changing over and yet I got
to talk about the same topic, yeah, I'm gonna fall
back on the opinion that I probably shared earlier in
the day, and hopefully I can expand on it or
twist it or whatever the case may be. But all
of us that have done this and our words are

(27:49):
out there for people to consume. We've repeated ourselves, yes
a lot, and yet Charles takes it to.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
A whole new level. I mean.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I said this before the series, Carl Anthony Towns is
gonna be the key Now, Shaq, you said something the
other day and I'm telling you Carl Anthony Towns is
the key, and he's taking Wemby completely out of this game.
And Ernie, I told you back in the pre Carl
Anthony Towns is the key to this series.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Wimby looks scared.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
He looks scared.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
He is the key to this series. And I told
you over and no. And that's the thing about the finals,
Ernie Kenny Shaq. Carl Anthony Towns went out there and
he took over the series.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
And that's what you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
The key to the series has been Carl Anthony Towns.
And I got to give credit to Kat because he's
been the key to the series.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
Now, Charles, I hear what you're saying, But who do
you think is going to be the key to the series.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Carl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
San Antonio got big women.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Okay, hey, both of those things are trial.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, he's really goodness, he did point it out. He's
like Carl Anthony Towns. Watch out for Carl. And now
that he's turning out to be like the difference in
the series, and he has taken Wimby out of his
comfort zone.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It is just Carl Anthony. He's beating us over the head.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
One I mean good for you, Charles.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I mean I'll repeat things from earlier in a show,
or maybe once in a segment, just for a point
of emphasis. But give Charles five minutes and he'll tell
you Karl Anthony Towns has been the key to the
series fifteen times.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
At least, there's no mistaking his opinion. We all know.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Terrible, all right?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Coming up next, Mariners are heading to Baltimore to take
on the Orioles. We preview the suddenly awakened Baltimore Orioles
for you next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Coming up at eight o'clock, Seyawks one series Jackson.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Bevans, we'll join us today. We'll find out who he
wants to break down here at eight o'clock for one
entire interview. That's one analyst, one Seahawk player, for one
entire interview. Throughout the month of June, every single day.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Did you do it? Thursday and Friday? We sure did?
Who did you do?

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Talk to Joseph Hoyt from the Dallas Morning News on
Thursday about Dante Fowler Junior, okay, And we talked to
John Boyle on Friday about Jackson Smith.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
And jigbat Boyle slipped right in there on he did
ducking me again, Boyle?

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah, yeah, he said awesome, won't there I'll come on.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, nothing new of them.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah, he's that that kind of a.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Snake, snaky Jackson Bevan, So join us today at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
So we'll do the Seahawks one series coming up.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
But the Mariners lose two out of three to the
Detroit Tigers over the weekend. So that's three four losses
out of their last four, just when we thought they
were in a roll on a roll Detroit. They should
have won yesterday for sure. Uh, there's no excuse to
have lost that game. I mean there are reasons behind it,
but there's no excuse, no thanks, to lose that game
on Sunday. And so suddenly maybe we're not as hot

(31:03):
as maybe we're not as hot as we thought we were.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
That is the worst.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Like Chloe Kardashian.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
And are you saying like maybe maybe people just aren't
that into us.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I don't know, but we'll try to get right against
a team that may have gotten right the Baltimore Orioles.
Keep in mind the Baltimore Orioles two years ago. They
thought they were had arrived, like, we're the team to
beat in the American League East. We're better than the
Yankees were, better than the Blue Jays were. They have
this young team that has found the playoffs. We haven't

(31:41):
won in the playoffs, but we keep finding the playoffs.
And yet we're built on this young nucleus of high
draft picks and terrific offensive talent. If we could just
find pitching, we're gonna get over the top. And then
last year a disaster, like everything went wrong. They couldn't
even hit, and they certainly couldn't pitch. And then this
year they you know, we're gonna reinforce. We're gonna be

(32:04):
gonna very aggressive, and they were very aggressive in the offseason.
They added Pete Alonzo for goodness sake, in the offseason.
This is just an organization that doesn't spend. You don't
think the Mariners spend. Look at the Orioles spending history
in the last quarter century. They just don't spend. But
they were in we're not gonna blow this foundation. We're
gonna go for it, and they were very aggressive this

(32:27):
past offseason.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
And what happened. They started the year twenty one and
twenty nine and you had to do some soul searching.
If you're anywhere in the Orioles front office, you're looking
at your watch like, okay, where else could I get
a job before lunch today?

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Before lunch?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, because it was not looking good for Baltimore again.
But then all of a sudden, they won ten of
their next fourteen, so they pulled themselves out of that crater,
dusted themselves off. Now they've lost two in a row
to Toronto, but still you've gone ten and six, moved
up to thirty one and thirty five overall, which isn't great,

(33:08):
but you're only a game and a half out of
the wild card. So the Orioles are revived. They feel renewed.
That's what the Mariners are going up against, and it's
going to be strength on strength. It's going to be
our pitching versus their hitting, which is the reason why
they've turned things back around. Those young hitters that were
kind of the envy of baseball there for a while.

(33:30):
That young nucleus of hitters, over that stretch of sixteen
games that they've played, have scored ninety four runs during
that time, so about six runs per game. So they've
actually really picked it up, and so it's going to
be strength on strength, four nights of it starting tonight
at three thirty five, or four late afternoons for us,

(33:51):
starting at three thirty five tonight.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Our strength are starting pitching against their strength, which is
their young hitters. Let's get it on. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
I feel like just coming off that Detroit series because
it was the same thing.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Right.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Detroit was terrible.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
They had a horrible May, and you're thinking, Okay, yeah,
they're kind of getting right, but we're a better team.
We're supposed to be a better team. But they didn't
have I didn't think the hitting issue the hitting strength
that Baltimore has. So it does make me a little
extra nervous.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
And the thing about the two guys with Baltimore, the
two guys we got to be worried about, are both catchers.
Adleie Rutchman has refound his game this year and for
the last couple of years, I mean, the question in
Baltimore has been what's wrong with a Lee? Yeah, I mean,
he was a number one overall pick out of Oregon State,
was supposed to be a superstar, and for the last

(34:39):
two years he's not hit well. Well, he's hitting well
this year so he's found his game. And then young
Sam Bissalo also a catcher, so he's the other guy
that is scorching the baseball right now. So we got
to be careful with those guys. They can hit home runs.
Colton Kowser's been on a roll lately as well, and
so's that's the matchup. Colby ma hits home runs. I mean,

(35:01):
they are all home run hitting team, and that's going
to be an interesting four days. Certainly, we're gonna have
to bring a better version of ourselves than what we
took to Detroit because that was sloppy and at times gross,
what we watched this weekend.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, we need to see some good defense out of
our our team for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, Josh Naylor had a weird weekend, just a weird.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
That's a weird weekend.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, some really great moments, some really bad moments as well,
which we will discuss a little later on in the show.
But coming up next your Seahawks one series. I don't
know who we're going to break down. We're about to
find out. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ A
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