June 8, 2026 • 36 mins
It’s trade season, so let’s explore some possibilities for the Mariners. Should the Mariners consider trading for Tarik Skubal? :30- ABCs of the Mariners - J is for Josh- Josh Naylor had a weird weekend… - K is for Kade- Yes, we are going to see Kade Anderson with the big team this year. - L is for the Laz’s- Diaz is not good…Montes is really good! :45- We close out the Monday show with one last thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Nine o'clock hour here on this Monday morning. Great Monday
morning to you all. Ashley Ryan's here. My name is
Chuck Pell. We've got you till ten o'clock. Then we
hand things off to Greg Bell and Christopher Kidd here
at KJR. A lot of baseball today. You gotta forgive me.
I had two days off last week, and so sometimes
I just got to get it out.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
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flies from cal Raleigh.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yesterday he debuted in his rehab planing back in Everett
where he's played again, and he never misses a beat
that one? Do you know? Hemore thirty three because that
was the number he wore when he was with Everett before.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh, I thought it was because he wanted to celebrate
Bucky or Kevin Sitzer probably yeah, both of them. No,
and it was it was a sold out game, and
I just you know, I love that he brought a
hibachi chef for everybody after.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, just way to go, Cal.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It doesn't miss a trick. But I'm gonna wear thirty
three because this is what I wear and this is
what I wore. And ever, I thought that was a
pretty nice touch. And the hibachi thing is even better.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, he's just Cal's like a just I just
want to I would like to be like Cal and I.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Grow up too good to be true. Now we can
just get you hitting on the major league team right
on the way on the way he's going to DH
yesterday got a hit, he hit one to the wall.
But he's going to play. Has a day off today
and then tomorrow and Tacoma and he will be behind
the plate, and I don't know. Maybe I doubt he's
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going to be there for very long, maybe a game
or two. But I guess there's a chance I'll get
to see him play for the Rainiers on Friday. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I mean that would be an added bonus, added fun.
Maybe you could get him on to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think i'd rather have him on the Mariners by then,
But well that's true, but then the Mariners are.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
They're not back home by then, either, are they. So
I wonder if they'd keep him here or send him
on the road trip. It's a good question. We'll have
to see how these.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, when he's ready, he's ready, whenever that's going to be.
So I would hope that he's going to join the
team before the road trip's over, because they're gonna they
got another week there in Baltimore. They are, then they're
in d C. And before they ever come back. So
I don't think he's going to be rehabbing for long,
but we shall see.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
He said he felt good yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah he did. Yeah, in the meantime, just to enjoy it.
And for those that don't get to normally see cal
Raleigh play anymore in their hometown, it was nice that
he made a visit in Everett. And then he'll be
in Tacoma tomorrow for at least one day, so we
shall see. All right, now, let's get to what I
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wanted to discuss say here today. Oh one other thing,
I did have the math right on my moon Yos, now, okay,
because I was doing it from April first, right, Okay,
so you know you do that like they are sixteen
and five since Memorial Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
I since April first. Those were my mooney so they
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were accurate. Okay. I gave two hours ago quick recap
for you when Andre's Munios, because I don't know if
I did it perfectly in the baseball brunch, I was
trying to speed through it. When Munos is pitching on
one day rest or fewer, he has an zero point
nine to three er. When he's pitching on two days
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rest or more, he has a nine point two eight er.
Now do I have to black and white this for people?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I would think it's pretty obvious just hearing that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He wants to pitch more. He thinks he needs to
pitch more, even if it's psychological at this point. Pitch
the damn guy more. Yeah, and he when he has
one day rest, that's the sweet spot. Five games pitched,
five innings pitched, no runs allowed, nine strikeouts, two out
of two, and save opportunities. That is a zero point
zero zero era. So I think he knows of what
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he speaks, and that is I need to pitch more
frequently to get into the rhythm that is required to
be a dominant closer. And so I just wanted to
clear that up for you if I was at all
confusing at eight thirty today or at seven o'clock when
discussing that. But I don't want to discuss that here.
I want to talk about trade season. We're in the
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midst of trade season. It got underway on June first.
We're still a long way away, and so I'm not
going to hit you over the head with this, but
I am going to pop in here and there and
talk trades with you.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
My little tap on the shoulder, not a hit over
the head.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I love doing it. I think a lot of
listeners out there are like it as well. And on
Thursday and Friday, getting ready for the Tigers series, obviously,
Trek Scouble's name kept coming up. Jeff Passing I think
led that all of a sudden, he's telling people that
the best match for Trek Scooble is Seattle, which raised
an eyebrow er to nationwide and got everybody talking here
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locally about how would that work, why would that be
a perfect fit, so on and so forth, So I
wanted to discuss it today on the radio program. I
don't think it's the perfect fit. I don't think it's
a logical solution, and I don't think that the Mariners
will do that. It just doesn't feel like something they
would do. Now, on the positive end of that, I
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would say, yes, he represents something despite how good our
pitching is, that we don't have and very few teams
actually do possess. I mean, this is a top shelf
starting pitcher and they're only about five to ten guys
on that shelf, so there aren't enough to go around
in Major League Baseball, and he's one of them. He's
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a cut up up. We've got We've got very good
to great starting pitching here. I'd say, great, we have
great starting pitching here.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I would agree.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And we have kind of an embarrassment of riches, which
is why we have to piggyback. It's why Kate Anderson
is still in Double A and and has there's no
real plan for advancing him to the major league level
because there's no room for him right now with this rotation.
So we kind of have an embarrassment of riches. But
that's one thing we don't have in our big treasure
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you know, treasure vault. We don't have one of those
top shelf guys. I mean, Ryan Wio's not been consistent
enough to claim that Bryce Miller's not been good enough
long enough to claim that Logan has not taken that
next step, and George certainly has not taken that next step,
which he was supposed to be that guy of all
of them. George Kirby was supposed to be that guy
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that reached the top shelf. So he would give us
something we don't have in our stores, and that is
somebody that is an absolute whatever team. He's on, no
question about it. Number one starter. When a series begins,
he's the guy you want to get the ball to.
We wouldn't have a discussion about it like we did
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going into the playoffs last year. And when there's the
season this year, and when the series is on the
line and it's a game five, there's no question about
who's getting the ball, and he goes for as long
as we want. We don't have that guy. He would
give us that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, and that part is very appealing, I will say
it is very appealing, But it does seem funny. Yeah,
to have to keep talking about how we've it's a
good problem to have to have this many pitchers and
then think we should add another one.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We should add a seventh. What do we think about
two piggybacks?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That sounds like a great plan.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Hey, bring up Kate Anderson. That's three piggybacks.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's all we're gonna do. We're piggybacking this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So yeah, Scooble and Miller very pitch alone. Everybody else piggybacks.
So yeah, Okay, that's the one end of it. And
then the other end is the logical end of this.
Do you really think that the Mariners as hard as
they hold on to their prospects. I'm not saying they
wouldn't do it, but does it make logical sense that
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they'd add a thirty two million dollar player coming off
an injury list and then have to give a steep
but not ridiculous trade package in return for him, just
so that he could become a free agent. We are
not re signing Trek Scooble. Terrek Scooble's going to make
fifty to sixty million dollars a year. Do you really
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think the Mariners are gonna pony up for that?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's right up there, Alley. I loft contracts like that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, there's no chance.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Now, they did break into the rental area last year.
We nearly got to the World Series. That's not something
they've done in the past. Naylor and swore us both
they brought over at the trading deadline.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, not quite the contracts of Schooble, though, and it
worked to a degree.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
We got to the American League Championship Series, and those
two guys, even though Gino didn't hit that much with
us obviously one of the biggest postseason hits ever in
franchise history. And it worked it worked, and I think
it did loosen them up. I think they do consider
rental players going forward, but considering what he might demand,
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that sound like something they would do. They kind of
doubled down over the weekend and said, we're not trading
any of our six starters at the trading We're not
even thinking about that. Well, you clearly would have to
trade one of those guys, because I know we're joking,
but you can't have two piggybacks in your rotation.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, we're going for three, that's all.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You can't have three. And I think Kate Anderson is
going to play a factor before this season comes to
a close, so we can have three piggybacks for goodness sake.
So I just don't think it even makes logical sense. Now,
this is what I really wanted to deal with because
I love trade season. But with trade season comes silly season.
And I'm just gonna put this frankly, some of you
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guys don't have a clue of what a major league
trade looks like, and I'm really tired of your lopsided
nonsense showing up on my timeline. You don't know how
to make a major league A lot of you are
making MLB trades and you don't know how to do it. Okay,
you don't understand what for what?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Get your stuff together.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And I'm not trying to like elevate myself like, oh
I see and you don't. No, no, no, this is
just studying. This is just looking at other trades. This
is how this is how I do it, and I'm
pretty accurate with it. Like you look at what's a
comparable trade that has been made in recent history, and
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the most comparable thing that you can come up with
is Juan Soto and not Juan Soto from the Nationals
to the Padres. That's a completely different animal. I'm talking
about Juan Soto from the Padres to the Yankees. When
Wan Soto went from the Nationals to the Padres, the Padres,
theoretically we're getting him for three postseason runs two and
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a half years. That's what he had left on his contract,
for three postseason runs with arguably the best hitter in
the world. Yeah, you're gonna have to give up a ton.
That's when you do bring up names like Kate Anderson
and Ryan So you got to bring out your big,
big guns. I mean, Washington got James Wood out of
that deal, c j Abrams out of that deal, and
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about five other prospects that are either are contributing or
still might contribute to it. So three years of Juan
Soto at a very cheap contract, Yeah, that's pretty much.
You name your price and that's what you get, right.
But when you were talking about him going from the
Padres to the Yankees and he only had they had
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one year with him, that's it. One year, and then
after that, oh yeah, his contract is third year arbitration,
so it was high. And then if you're going to
keep him, I mean, it's astronomical. As we saw, Sodo
broke the bank. So what was the deal. It was
Michael King, a very good, young, controllable starting pitcher that
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can slip right into your starting rotation if your San Diego,
which he did, which he has and continues to do today.
And then they gave up a backup thirty two year
old catcher in Kyle Hagashioka, and then they got three
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good but not great prospects. That's what you got for
a full season of an everyday player to an organization
that had the money to keep him beyond the one year.
I mean, the Yankees obviously gave Soto a tremendous offer.
They just didn't quite give one as high as the
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New York Mets did. So completely different ballgame there, right,
And yet the price for that was one good, established, young,
controllable starter, a backup catcher because the Padres hoard backup
catchers for some reason, and then good but not great prospects.
That was the that was the value. So that's the
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template that we work off of when you think about
a Trek Scoobable trade. And so it's not near Kate
Anderson and Ryan Sloan and Las Montes. No chance are
we trading any of those guys. I wouldn't trade one
of those guys for two months of Jesus at the
back end of our you know, at the top of
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our rotation. Hey, no chance are they going to give
up that? Now? Would they give up something? Yes, I
think there's a world that they would give up something.
But it's if we use Soto as the template, and
keep in mind, we're only getting a half season from
Schooble and he's coming off an injury and we actually
beat him in the playoffs. Right last year, Troy Melton
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was the guy that gave us trouble last year in
the Tiger series, but we're also not going to keep him.
So those are three essential variables to try and figure
out what we would give up for Terrek Schouble. So
as that template, you're probably going to have to give
up one of your controllable young starters, not Gilbert because
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he's only got one year after this. It would be Kirby,
wu Miller or Hancock, one of those. And then you
probably are going to have to give up a couple
good but not great prospects. That's going to be the
value of him, I'm telling you right now. And I
got a gasp when I said this to Jackson. I
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don't think I got a gasp out of Hugh. But
Jackson and Hugh were doing a show on Friday and
had me on, and I said, you could get Terrek
Schouble for Bryce Miller, straight up. You could get that trade, hey,
one for one. You could get that because of how
good Miller looks, how controllable he is going forward, and
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the Tigers may have just replaced there. I can't afford
him ace with Bryce Miller, who looked looks like he's
ready to be an ace for somebody right now. And
yet I don't think the Mariners would do that for
two three months of Trek's Schoobel.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
No versus what you could get from Miller still.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Versus four years of Miller and so and look, and
then it's not exactly an area of need. Man, If
we're gonna be spending trade capital on something, better be
a hitter her. Yeah. I get Schooble gives you something
that you don't have, but we're not gonna miss out
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on the World Series because we don't have enough starting pitching.
And don't forget Kate Anderson is going to factor into this.
I've already named him the September South Paul. I've named
him that three months ago. He is gonna be in
this rotation come September, and he's going to contribute to
this this thing going forward. All Right. So the idea
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that you're going to give up top some big, giant
man of package, more so than what Juan Soto commanded
going from the Padres and the Yankees, that's folly. Yeah,
it will require quite a bit too much, frankly for
a rental player, but it's not going to be the
absurd trade packages that you're reading about online. There is
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a world where it could happen. I don't have any
doubt about that. I think there's a far more likely
chance that it doesn't happen. But if it does. If
it does happen, then it's going to be one of
your younger, controllable, established starters. My guess would be like
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a Hancock, and then you would tack on two good
prospects on that. We got plenty of them. No, maybe
a couple of names you wouldn't want to hear. Oh,
they'll make you uncomfortable, like, oh, you didn't want to
give up for Melo. Yeah, yeah, maybe something like that.
But it's not going to be Montes, is not going
to be Sloan, it's not going to be Anderson, it's
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not going to be Miller, it's not going to be
wo There's no way we're including those guys in a
trade for Derek scoobl at least that's my feeling on it.
So yeah, so that's it. And if I'm adding somebody
and I know he, I know what. People they balk
at the idea of Byron Buxton because he gets hurt
a lot. Yeah he does, he does, And I know
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he got hurt over the weekend. He ran into a wall.
It tends to jar a person. Okay, So he's been
mostly healthy the last two and a half years and
when he's right, man, is he right? And he's also affordable,
and he's under contract. I'm I'm with those who are
saying online, I'd rather have the hitter, and I think
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Buxton's going to be the best available hitter. And I
get that he's on got a trade no trade clause,
but he's already softened on that. So please follow your
current events before you snap at me and try to correct.
He already softened on that this offseason, and if he
gets to the right team, he's starting to get to
that age where he's thinking about, oh, man, if I'm
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gonna win a championship, it's not gonna be with the
rebuilding Twins, is it. So he has already softened on
whether or not he would wave the no trade claws.
Said apparently he's already said he'd do it for the Braves,
and I think he'd do it for the Mariners as well.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So let's find out.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, let's find out. I'd like to have him. You
got to make sure he's okay. You got to make
sure that they didn't jar too much loose when he
hit that wall Friday night. And he is an injury risk,
there's no question about it. But man, he's been mostly
healthy the last two and a half years. And if
you can get him healthy, he can carry a team.
He can carry a team. He's that special. Pussing can
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play defense. So it fixes another hole on the team. Yeah, exactly,
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But it's Chuck and it's Ashley with you. And yes,
we've done a lot of baseball today. I had a lot
to get off my chest, took two days off and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, and you know what, it is baseball season. I
don't know if you know that it's also trade season.
So those are things that have to be talked about.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yes, I mean when Ariana Grande goes two days without
singing and then not eating, she can't wait till Monday
to not eat and sing.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, sing a lot to make up for all the
non singing, right right and non eediot.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
She's got to catch up.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
She's got ketch up to those things she loves have ketchup.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, it's just two things she loves, not eating and singing.
So when she goes, when all she does is eat
and not sing over the weekend, she can't wait to
reverse it exactly. That's kind of what I'm doing today.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I am your ariana Grande of baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I've always thought that about you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's go to the ABC's. We left off with the
letter to unless you did the ABCS. Did you do
the ABC's while I was We.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Did it on Thursday. We did not do it on Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh jeez, well it's too late. I went with what
I asked off I left off of the letter Jay.
Oh for ith, Jay is for Josh. We've not talked
about Josh. What a weird weekend for Josh Naylor. This weekend.
The Tiger fans all decided they hate him. He did
some things that certainly would irritate an opponent, irritate a
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fan base even more so than the opponent. But I
kind of I don't know, Maybe we're just maybe this
is what being a fan is. That I'm sitting here like,
why are you guys? Overreacting to all of this. I mean,
other than the mitten throw at Dingler, which I thought
was pretty cheap.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I thought it was hilarious, but that's because these ours.
If it was somebody else, i'd be up in uproar.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But I don't get why the anger over the slide
like he was in the base path that he didn't
come anywhere close to hitting. Yeah, chorus, I've seen a
lot dirtier slides than that that nobody even batter than
I at.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And yet just because now they want to be angry
at him.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So yes, I mean even cold Keith of the Tiger
said afterwards, Yeah, you don't like him when you're playing
against him, but you probably do like him if you're
playing with him. Yeah, And I guess he's that type
of player. When he was at the Guardians, I don't
know if I disliked him, but he certainly played with
an edge, There's no question about it. You certainly understand
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why he might get under an opponent's skin. I just
didn't think that his sins rose to some level that
warranted him getting booed and called dirty all weekend long
on social media, and even I mean, that's that's kind
of close cold. Keith kind of went close to calling
him out publicly. And that's a young player. It's not
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like Trek Scoogle's saying it. So I don't know. I
I mean, yeah, he's a he's an irritating guy if
he's on the other team, and he does every once
in a while some questionable things, and when he goes
to cover the bag, he puts his own body at risk.
He's not trying to hurt anybody else. It's just his
statement that I'm going to put my own body.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
At risk, right Yeah, And that at first base it
was like, no, he was not going to intentionally try
to hurt there. They're a runner, because first of all,
he would have ended up probably hurt himself, so that
would have been a stupid move. But because they're already irritated,
it's like, oh well, now, oh look what he did.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Now we can put all of this in.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He threw a mit, he almost collided, you know, full
had a full collision, and everything is blown out of proportion. Again,
if he was not on my team, I'd probably be
the same way and hate him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But I love him.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I mean, yeah, he definitely falls in that category. I
just to me. I could not. I didn't think that
his actions rose to meeting that kind of criticism. Now
I do have criticism up because that wasn't all he
did this weekend. His defense has been sloppy at times
and then brilliant at times, like they've kept Aaron and
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Ryan gave and hyphen gave him the credit, gave Cole
jung all the credit on that great plate. It was
good play. I mean he stretched, but Naylor made that play.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And then two innings later, Wisdom gets the air on
a ball that I could have caught at first base,
and that was just Josh being lazy over Yeah. So
and then he gets thrown out trying to steal. And
I'm not gonna come down too hard on him, because
that's how he has to steal bases. He has to
sort of semartively, instinctively, I'm ahead of you, and I've
figured out your move, and I'm gonna get there before
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you can figure me out. And so you're gonna get
caught occasionally playing a game that way. Yeah, But he
just had a hot and cold week, and he's kind
of had a hot and cold season so far this year.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
He has and we talked a little bit about him
last week too, and just I was looking up his
numbers from last year when he came to the Mariners. Defensively,
I think he had a point seven war in the
second half of the season defensively two point two overall,
and when he was here and he's at like a
point minus point seven narrow something. Errors, Yeah, it's it's one.
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Last year was definitely an anomaly with what we saw
when he came here. We were not we were gifted
some exceptional defense from him, which is not doesn't seem
to be how his career has usually been. This year
seems to be more on par with how he is.
But it seems extra sloppy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But it's not it's not anything. I mean, you can
see the skill over there. It's it's a lack of.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Focus, it seems like it at times.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, and taking too many risks, and you know that
that needs to be curbed because I think he definitely
has the glove work skill over there, and he we
know how knowledgeable he is, how smart he is, but
I think he's just trying to be too clever when
he's between the lines, and I think it's costing him
all right, KA is for cad this September South Paul
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and I don't know if he'll be used in the
starting rotation, as I said in the previous segment, but
I wanted to just clear it up. I do think
he is going to be used. Kate Anderson our top
prospect now that Emerson's Colt Emerson is up with the club.
He's certainly our best prospect right now, and he's dominating
Double A. They're going to use him this hit. Yeah,
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They're limiting his innings on a night by night basis
for a reason because they want him to have enough
gas left in the tank to be able to use
him probably in September and then into the playoffs. Now
whether or not that's as a starter, I don't know.
Maybe it will be some sort of bullpen piece, long
relief piece that they could use as a weapon because
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the rest of the league has not seen him yet.
But Kate Anderson is going to be used, I can
promise you.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And I hope he is because I think everybody would
be really excited to see him.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And he won't be involved in a Schooball trade or
a Buxton trade or any other trade or piggyback.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He just had to throw that out there.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Finally, l is for the lases. I don't know. It's
hard for me to believe that I would ever have
ell As for laz and yet I got two lasses
I'm going to talk about today. It's got to be
a record. So Lasdas showed us yesterday. First of all,
I love the ABS challenge system. I think it's added
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so much to the viewing experience and to the game,
a lot more than I thought it would, and I
thought it was going to add a lot. But I
think in fairness, what it's highlighted to me is how
much how good the umpires really are, that their statistics
are on par with hitters and better than something looks
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it sounds like the catchers are better than the umpires
when they're challenging, and they're challenging fifty to fifty balls,
but the umpires are kicking the crap out of hitters.
So I think we need to acknowledge how good they are.
And then all of a sudden, the last Das comes
into your world and they're like, see, it's not just
highlighting how good the umpires actually are, it's also highlighting
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how bad the bad ones are.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
He needs to go, Yeah, he's not good, and you
know it is. It is interesting because obviously, when the
catchers are doing their challenges, they're the only ones that
have a better view of where the pitch actually went
than the umpire does. So it makes sense that they
would be, you know, be able to get some of
those times.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
They're also trying to fool the umpire, right, they're not
trying to fool themselves, right.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Exactly that too.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But yeah, then then it's just I don't know, I
find myself as you. I'm fascinated by this ABS challenge system.
It brings a lot. But boy, when the umpire is bad,
it is glaring.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Glaring, right, and then we still can't take advantage of him.
So we had one of the bad umpires last night
and we lost versus last Dias on a day in
which he was completely off his game.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, and here's an excusable.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Dylan Dingler won like seventy four challenges yesterday and we
went one for three. Yes, I mean, how bad can
we be at this? I want it taken away from Randy.
He's lost all of his privileges. He doesn't know when
to use it. He just doesn't knowing to use.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
He gets a little emotional, which is what we said
before it started, like you cannot be using it in
the situation where it's kind of trying to help your ego.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
The other Lass is Las Montes. I was told on
air and off air by Justin Hollander himself when I
joked that Las Montes is going to hit forty home
runs this year, and that was a joke. I was
kind of kidding around, and he said, if Las Montes
is hitting forty home runs this year, I promise you
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some of those are going to be in a Mariner uniform.
That's what he said. Las Montes is at seventeen home
runs and we're not even to the All Star break.
He is on fire since June. Oh he's hitting five
hundred since June started and has already hit five home
runs this month. Now, he doesn't hit lefties. I looked
up the splits. I mean, he's really struggling against lefties.
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So you would, undoubtedly if if you brought him up
at some point this year, you'd have to use him
in a platoon. He'd have to be Rayley's or ken Zone.
There's no room for another one of those guys. You
can't have three of those guys on the team, so
he's got to be one or the other, right, But
I mean he's tearing the car. He's at seventeen home
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runs already, He's at five this month for Arkansas, so
he's absolutely on fire. If he's locked in, if he's
figured something out at this stage in his young career.
He's only twenty one, but they compare him to you
or Don Alvarez, for goodness sake, pretty good comparison to
have as a power hitter. So if he's suddenly turned
that page, if he's figured something out, and we'll need
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more time to monitor that. According to Hollander himself, he
will be up with this team. And I'm wondering where
and how. That's what I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Let's go all right. One last thing next to close
out the show. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
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and Christopher are more capable, Hair, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That's what I say about them all the time.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, well you can count on them, so lean into it, Ashley.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's all I think about.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Are all right, Well, it's our final segment of the day.
You know how we do that. It's one last thing time.
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was about to go on I'm Ashley and this
is the news.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
News.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
So they came out today and said that Brendan Soresby's
appeal has been granted and that he will not be
able to play in the first two games for Texas Tech,
but he'll be there for their conference opener. Obviously this
is pending another appeal. But the idea that it was
a local judge who kind of said, you know, we're
(31:55):
gonna I'm gonna give grant this, which, first of all, okay,
local judge probably a Texas Tech fan. Yeah, maybe a
Texas Tech fan. Definitely has Texas Tech connections.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I just I feel like, if I'm a local judge,
I'm staying far away from that because that's going to
look real bad. It's a lose lose situation for him, right.
And also, I'm sorry, Brendan Sorosby. I understand that you
had to go to a rehab because you've got a
gambling addiction, that it is a real problem, but you
bet on college sports, on games that you were playing.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
In and you are.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That is a no, no, there's no excuse you can't.
You can't because you have an addiction. Then say it
didn't happen. It did happen, go take care of it.
They're two separate things, though. You don't get to take
care of it and then just go back to business
as usual because you went to rehab.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't know if I've ever sided with the NCAA
since like nineteen eighty five. Yeah, me, neither a while.
But if they don't get their way here, I mean,
it's total anarchy. Yeah, Like, if they set this precedent
that it's so okay to gamble on your own team
playing college football such a bad luck, then how are
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they going to stop this? I mean, obviously the gambling
is be getting bigger and bigger and bigger, the daily
betting that you know, younger people are are doing it
more than ever before. I even considered gambling when I
was a kid until I got to I moved to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I didn't have any money to gamble. But that's different
for him.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm I guess I moved to Vegas, that was the
first time I even consider Oh okay, yeah, I'd like
to place a bet. That's first I'm even considered it.
I mean, kids are growing up on it now, they're
doing it in high school for goodness sake. I mean,
this is the slippery slope that we all signed up.
We all agreed that this is okay introduce into our society.
But there's got to be rules in certain areas, and
(33:48):
college football, college athletics has to crack down on the
swordsby types. Yeah, and if you allow this, then how
can you govern the problem going through?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, you definitely can't.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You can't say you have to then allow gambling on everything,
because you just basically have done that by say it. Ah,
he's going to be suspended two games. That's not going
to stop anybody. And he fully broke the rules, like
the well known rules. It wasn't an accident. He didn't
accidentally bet on his team one time. This was over
and over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Whoops, I accidentally bet on my team forty times.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I did it again, guys.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Last thing from me, and we'll do more on this tomorrow.
Only got forty five seconds here, So I'll just say this,
I really don't know how to cover the World Cup
for you. Hell, we were supposed to have meetings. I
guess I missed it while I was taking my two
days off. I've been waiting for that meeting for a
while because I was looking to about a lot. I
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was looking to gain some valuable information. So I think
we spend some time tomorrow, like what do you want
from us? What do you want from us over the
next few weeks?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Let us know a.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Show that's not exactly our expertise is not soccer. I
admittedly don't even like the sport, but obviously I want
all soccer fans, football fans and all of Seattle to
just have a ball the next month. What do you
so we should spend some time on this tomorrow. What
do you want from us? What do you want from
the morning show? I won't speak on BAP of other shows.
What do you want from us? What information do you
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want us delivered? Because I'm pretty sure it's not analysis.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
No, we're going to have an expert join us once
a week.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
We'll get experts to provide analysis. That's that's what That's
what we'll do. But beyond that, like, what do you
want updates on? What do you want to hear? What
do you what encapsulates. Hey, the World Cup is in Seattle,
and you guys should be talking about it. Okay, if
I meet you that far, just tell me what should
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we be talking about?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right, Yeah, that would be helpful.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I'm not going to be able to break this sport
down for you. I'm just not going to be able
to do that. Yeah, So maybe we have that discussion tomorrow.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, I get an idea from people exactly how they
want their sports talk radio station to cover the World Cup.
All right, coming up next, we've got Greg Bell Chris Kidd.
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yesterday he debuted in his rehab planing back in Everett
where he's played again, and he never misses a beat
that one? Do you know? Hemore thirty three because that
was the number he wore when he was with Everett before.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh, I thought it was because he wanted to celebrate
Bucky or Kevin Sitzer probably yeah, both of them. No,
and it was it was a sold out game, and
I just you know, I love that he brought a
hibachi chef for everybody after.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, just way to go, Cal.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It doesn't miss a trick. But I'm gonna wear thirty
three because this is what I wear and this is
what I wore. And ever, I thought that was a
pretty nice touch. And the hibachi thing is even better.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, he's just Cal's like a just I just
want to I would like to be like Cal and I.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Grow up too good to be true. Now we can
just get you hitting on the major league team right
on the way on the way he's going to DH
yesterday got a hit, he hit one to the wall.
But he's going to play. Has a day off today
and then tomorrow and Tacoma and he will be behind
the plate, and I don't know. Maybe I doubt he's
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going to be there for very long, maybe a game
or two. But I guess there's a chance I'll get
to see him play for the Rainiers on Friday. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I mean that would be an added bonus, added fun.
Maybe you could get him on to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think i'd rather have him on the Mariners by then,
But well that's true, but then the Mariners are.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
They're not back home by then, either, are they. So
I wonder if they'd keep him here or send him
on the road trip. It's a good question. We'll have
to see how these.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, when he's ready, he's ready, whenever that's going to be.
So I would hope that he's going to join the
team before the road trip's over, because they're gonna they
got another week there in Baltimore. They are, then they're
in d C. And before they ever come back. So
I don't think he's going to be rehabbing for long,
but we shall see.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
He said he felt good yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah he did. Yeah, in the meantime, just to enjoy it.
And for those that don't get to normally see cal
Raleigh play anymore in their hometown, it was nice that
he made a visit in Everett. And then he'll be
in Tacoma tomorrow for at least one day, so we
shall see. All right, now, let's get to what I
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wanted to discuss say here today. Oh one other thing,
I did have the math right on my moon Yos, now, okay,
because I was doing it from April first, right, Okay,
so you know you do that like they are sixteen
and five since Memorial Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
I since April first. Those were my mooney so they
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were accurate. Okay. I gave two hours ago quick recap
for you when Andre's Munios, because I don't know if
I did it perfectly in the baseball brunch, I was
trying to speed through it. When Munos is pitching on
one day rest or fewer, he has an zero point
nine to three er. When he's pitching on two days
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rest or more, he has a nine point two eight er.
Now do I have to black and white this for people?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I would think it's pretty obvious just hearing that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He wants to pitch more. He thinks he needs to
pitch more, even if it's psychological at this point. Pitch
the damn guy more. Yeah, and he when he has
one day rest, that's the sweet spot. Five games pitched,
five innings pitched, no runs allowed, nine strikeouts, two out
of two, and save opportunities. That is a zero point
zero zero era. So I think he knows of what
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he speaks, and that is I need to pitch more
frequently to get into the rhythm that is required to
be a dominant closer. And so I just wanted to
clear that up for you if I was at all
confusing at eight thirty today or at seven o'clock when
discussing that. But I don't want to discuss that here.
I want to talk about trade season. We're in the
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midst of trade season. It got underway on June first.
We're still a long way away, and so I'm not
going to hit you over the head with this, but
I am going to pop in here and there and
talk trades with you.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
My little tap on the shoulder, not a hit over
the head.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I love doing it. I think a lot of
listeners out there are like it as well. And on
Thursday and Friday, getting ready for the Tigers series, obviously,
Trek Scouble's name kept coming up. Jeff Passing I think
led that all of a sudden, he's telling people that
the best match for Trek Scooble is Seattle, which raised
an eyebrow er to nationwide and got everybody talking here
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locally about how would that work, why would that be
a perfect fit, so on and so forth, So I
wanted to discuss it today on the radio program. I
don't think it's the perfect fit. I don't think it's
a logical solution, and I don't think that the Mariners
will do that. It just doesn't feel like something they
would do. Now, on the positive end of that, I
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would say, yes, he represents something despite how good our
pitching is, that we don't have and very few teams
actually do possess. I mean, this is a top shelf
starting pitcher and they're only about five to ten guys
on that shelf, so there aren't enough to go around
in Major League Baseball, and he's one of them. He's
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a cut up up. We've got We've got very good
to great starting pitching here. I'd say, great, we have
great starting pitching here.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I would agree.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And we have kind of an embarrassment of riches, which
is why we have to piggyback. It's why Kate Anderson
is still in Double A and and has there's no
real plan for advancing him to the major league level
because there's no room for him right now with this rotation.
So we kind of have an embarrassment of riches. But
that's one thing we don't have in our big treasure
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you know, treasure vault. We don't have one of those
top shelf guys. I mean, Ryan Wio's not been consistent
enough to claim that Bryce Miller's not been good enough
long enough to claim that Logan has not taken that
next step, and George certainly has not taken that next step,
which he was supposed to be that guy of all
of them. George Kirby was supposed to be that guy
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that reached the top shelf. So he would give us
something we don't have in our stores, and that is
somebody that is an absolute whatever team. He's on, no
question about it. Number one starter. When a series begins,
he's the guy you want to get the ball to.
We wouldn't have a discussion about it like we did
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going into the playoffs last year. And when there's the
season this year, and when the series is on the
line and it's a game five, there's no question about
who's getting the ball, and he goes for as long
as we want. We don't have that guy. He would
give us that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, and that part is very appealing, I will say
it is very appealing, But it does seem funny. Yeah,
to have to keep talking about how we've it's a
good problem to have to have this many pitchers and
then think we should add another one.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We should add a seventh. What do we think about
two piggybacks?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That sounds like a great plan.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Hey, bring up Kate Anderson. That's three piggybacks.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's all we're gonna do. We're piggybacking this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So yeah, Scooble and Miller very pitch alone. Everybody else piggybacks.
So yeah, Okay, that's the one end of it. And
then the other end is the logical end of this.
Do you really think that the Mariners as hard as
they hold on to their prospects. I'm not saying they
wouldn't do it, but does it make logical sense that
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they'd add a thirty two million dollar player coming off
an injury list and then have to give a steep
but not ridiculous trade package in return for him, just
so that he could become a free agent. We are
not re signing Trek Scooble. Terrek Scooble's going to make
fifty to sixty million dollars a year. Do you really
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think the Mariners are gonna pony up for that?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's right up there, Alley. I loft contracts like that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, there's no chance.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Now, they did break into the rental area last year.
We nearly got to the World Series. That's not something
they've done in the past. Naylor and swore us both
they brought over at the trading deadline.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, not quite the contracts of Schooble, though, and it
worked to a degree.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
We got to the American League Championship Series, and those
two guys, even though Gino didn't hit that much with
us obviously one of the biggest postseason hits ever in
franchise history. And it worked it worked, and I think
it did loosen them up. I think they do consider
rental players going forward, but considering what he might demand,
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that sound like something they would do. They kind of
doubled down over the weekend and said, we're not trading
any of our six starters at the trading We're not
even thinking about that. Well, you clearly would have to
trade one of those guys, because I know we're joking,
but you can't have two piggybacks in your rotation.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, we're going for three, that's all.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You can't have three. And I think Kate Anderson is
going to play a factor before this season comes to
a close, so we can have three piggybacks for goodness sake.
So I just don't think it even makes logical sense. Now,
this is what I really wanted to deal with because
I love trade season. But with trade season comes silly season.
And I'm just gonna put this frankly, some of you
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guys don't have a clue of what a major league
trade looks like, and I'm really tired of your lopsided
nonsense showing up on my timeline. You don't know how
to make a major league A lot of you are
making MLB trades and you don't know how to do it. Okay,
you don't understand what for what?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Get your stuff together.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And I'm not trying to like elevate myself like, oh
I see and you don't. No, no, no, this is
just studying. This is just looking at other trades. This
is how this is how I do it, and I'm
pretty accurate with it. Like you look at what's a
comparable trade that has been made in recent history, and
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the most comparable thing that you can come up with
is Juan Soto and not Juan Soto from the Nationals
to the Padres. That's a completely different animal. I'm talking
about Juan Soto from the Padres to the Yankees. When
Wan Soto went from the Nationals to the Padres, the Padres,
theoretically we're getting him for three postseason runs two and
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a half years. That's what he had left on his contract,
for three postseason runs with arguably the best hitter in
the world. Yeah, you're gonna have to give up a ton.
That's when you do bring up names like Kate Anderson
and Ryan So you got to bring out your big,
big guns. I mean, Washington got James Wood out of
that deal, c j Abrams out of that deal, and
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about five other prospects that are either are contributing or
still might contribute to it. So three years of Juan
Soto at a very cheap contract, Yeah, that's pretty much.
You name your price and that's what you get, right.
But when you were talking about him going from the
Padres to the Yankees and he only had they had
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one year with him, that's it. One year, and then
after that, oh yeah, his contract is third year arbitration,
so it was high. And then if you're going to
keep him, I mean, it's astronomical. As we saw, Sodo
broke the bank. So what was the deal. It was
Michael King, a very good, young, controllable starting pitcher that
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can slip right into your starting rotation if your San Diego,
which he did, which he has and continues to do today.
And then they gave up a backup thirty two year
old catcher in Kyle Hagashioka, and then they got three
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good but not great prospects. That's what you got for
a full season of an everyday player to an organization
that had the money to keep him beyond the one year.
I mean, the Yankees obviously gave Soto a tremendous offer.
They just didn't quite give one as high as the
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New York Mets did. So completely different ballgame there, right,
And yet the price for that was one good, established, young,
controllable starter, a backup catcher because the Padres hoard backup
catchers for some reason, and then good but not great prospects.
That was the that was the value. So that's the
(14:04):
template that we work off of when you think about
a Trek Scoobable trade. And so it's not near Kate
Anderson and Ryan Sloan and Las Montes. No chance are
we trading any of those guys. I wouldn't trade one
of those guys for two months of Jesus at the
back end of our you know, at the top of
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our rotation. Hey, no chance are they going to give
up that? Now? Would they give up something? Yes, I
think there's a world that they would give up something.
But it's if we use Soto as the template, and
keep in mind, we're only getting a half season from
Schooble and he's coming off an injury and we actually
beat him in the playoffs. Right last year, Troy Melton
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was the guy that gave us trouble last year in
the Tiger series, but we're also not going to keep him.
So those are three essential variables to try and figure
out what we would give up for Terrek Schouble. So
as that template, you're probably going to have to give
up one of your controllable young starters, not Gilbert because
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he's only got one year after this. It would be Kirby,
wu Miller or Hancock, one of those. And then you
probably are going to have to give up a couple
good but not great prospects. That's going to be the
value of him, I'm telling you right now. And I
got a gasp when I said this to Jackson. I
(15:33):
don't think I got a gasp out of Hugh. But
Jackson and Hugh were doing a show on Friday and
had me on, and I said, you could get Terrek
Schouble for Bryce Miller, straight up. You could get that trade, hey,
one for one. You could get that because of how
good Miller looks, how controllable he is going forward, and
(15:53):
the Tigers may have just replaced there. I can't afford
him ace with Bryce Miller, who looked looks like he's
ready to be an ace for somebody right now. And
yet I don't think the Mariners would do that for
two three months of Trek's Schoobel.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
No versus what you could get from Miller still.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Versus four years of Miller and so and look, and
then it's not exactly an area of need. Man, If
we're gonna be spending trade capital on something, better be
a hitter her. Yeah. I get Schooble gives you something
that you don't have, but we're not gonna miss out
(16:35):
on the World Series because we don't have enough starting pitching.
And don't forget Kate Anderson is going to factor into this.
I've already named him the September South Paul. I've named
him that three months ago. He is gonna be in
this rotation come September, and he's going to contribute to
this this thing going forward. All Right. So the idea
(16:56):
that you're going to give up top some big, giant
man of package, more so than what Juan Soto commanded
going from the Padres and the Yankees, that's folly. Yeah,
it will require quite a bit too much, frankly for
a rental player, but it's not going to be the
absurd trade packages that you're reading about online. There is
(17:20):
a world where it could happen. I don't have any
doubt about that. I think there's a far more likely
chance that it doesn't happen. But if it does. If
it does happen, then it's going to be one of
your younger, controllable, established starters. My guess would be like
(17:41):
a Hancock, and then you would tack on two good
prospects on that. We got plenty of them. No, maybe
a couple of names you wouldn't want to hear. Oh,
they'll make you uncomfortable, like, oh, you didn't want to
give up for Melo. Yeah, yeah, maybe something like that.
But it's not going to be Montes, is not going
to be Sloan, it's not going to be Anderson, it's
(18:03):
not going to be Miller, it's not going to be
wo There's no way we're including those guys in a
trade for Derek scoobl at least that's my feeling on it.
So yeah, so that's it. And if I'm adding somebody
and I know he, I know what. People they balk
at the idea of Byron Buxton because he gets hurt
a lot. Yeah he does, he does, And I know
(18:27):
he got hurt over the weekend. He ran into a wall.
It tends to jar a person. Okay, So he's been
mostly healthy the last two and a half years and
when he's right, man, is he right? And he's also affordable,
and he's under contract. I'm I'm with those who are
saying online, I'd rather have the hitter, and I think
(18:48):
Buxton's going to be the best available hitter. And I
get that he's on got a trade no trade clause,
but he's already softened on that. So please follow your
current events before you snap at me and try to correct.
He already softened on that this offseason, and if he
gets to the right team, he's starting to get to
that age where he's thinking about, oh, man, if I'm
(19:09):
gonna win a championship, it's not gonna be with the
rebuilding Twins, is it. So he has already softened on
whether or not he would wave the no trade claws.
Said apparently he's already said he'd do it for the Braves,
and I think he'd do it for the Mariners as well.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So let's find out.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, let's find out. I'd like to have him. You
got to make sure he's okay. You got to make
sure that they didn't jar too much loose when he
hit that wall Friday night. And he is an injury risk,
there's no question about it. But man, he's been mostly
healthy the last two and a half years. And if
you can get him healthy, he can carry a team.
He can carry a team. He's that special. Pussing can
(19:46):
play defense. So it fixes another hole on the team. Yeah, exactly,
all right, coming up next, not done with the Mariners,
abcs of the MS come your way next on Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. They really set their watch.
But it's Chuck and it's Ashley with you. And yes,
we've done a lot of baseball today. I had a lot
to get off my chest, took two days off and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, and you know what, it is baseball season. I
don't know if you know that it's also trade season.
So those are things that have to be talked about.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yes, I mean when Ariana Grande goes two days without
singing and then not eating, she can't wait till Monday
to not eat and sing.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, sing a lot to make up for all the
non singing, right right and non eediot.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
She's got to catch up.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
She's got ketch up to those things she loves have ketchup.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, it's just two things she loves, not eating and singing.
So when she goes, when all she does is eat
and not sing over the weekend, she can't wait to
reverse it exactly. That's kind of what I'm doing today.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I am your ariana Grande of baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I've always thought that about you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's go to the ABC's. We left off with the
letter to unless you did the ABCS. Did you do
the ABC's while I was We.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Did it on Thursday. We did not do it on Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh jeez, well it's too late. I went with what
I asked off I left off of the letter Jay.
Oh for ith, Jay is for Josh. We've not talked
about Josh. What a weird weekend for Josh Naylor. This weekend.
The Tiger fans all decided they hate him. He did
some things that certainly would irritate an opponent, irritate a
(21:24):
fan base even more so than the opponent. But I
kind of I don't know, Maybe we're just maybe this
is what being a fan is. That I'm sitting here like,
why are you guys? Overreacting to all of this. I mean,
other than the mitten throw at Dingler, which I thought
was pretty cheap.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I thought it was hilarious, but that's because these ours.
If it was somebody else, i'd be up in uproar.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But I don't get why the anger over the slide
like he was in the base path that he didn't
come anywhere close to hitting. Yeah, chorus, I've seen a
lot dirtier slides than that that nobody even batter than
I at.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And yet just because now they want to be angry
at him.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So yes, I mean even cold Keith of the Tiger
said afterwards, Yeah, you don't like him when you're playing
against him, but you probably do like him if you're
playing with him. Yeah, And I guess he's that type
of player. When he was at the Guardians, I don't
know if I disliked him, but he certainly played with
an edge, There's no question about it. You certainly understand
(22:23):
why he might get under an opponent's skin. I just
didn't think that his sins rose to some level that
warranted him getting booed and called dirty all weekend long
on social media, and even I mean, that's that's kind
of close cold. Keith kind of went close to calling
him out publicly. And that's a young player. It's not
(22:43):
like Trek Scoogle's saying it. So I don't know. I
I mean, yeah, he's a he's an irritating guy if
he's on the other team, and he does every once
in a while some questionable things, and when he goes
to cover the bag, he puts his own body at risk.
He's not trying to hurt anybody else. It's just his
statement that I'm going to put my own body.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
At risk, right Yeah, And that at first base it
was like, no, he was not going to intentionally try
to hurt there. They're a runner, because first of all,
he would have ended up probably hurt himself, so that
would have been a stupid move. But because they're already irritated,
it's like, oh well, now, oh look what he did.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Now we can put all of this in.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He threw a mit, he almost collided, you know, full
had a full collision, and everything is blown out of proportion. Again,
if he was not on my team, I'd probably be
the same way and hate him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But I love him.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I mean, yeah, he definitely falls in that category. I
just to me. I could not. I didn't think that
his actions rose to meeting that kind of criticism. Now
I do have criticism up because that wasn't all he
did this weekend. His defense has been sloppy at times
and then brilliant at times, like they've kept Aaron and
(23:55):
Ryan gave and hyphen gave him the credit, gave Cole
jung all the credit on that great plate. It was
good play. I mean he stretched, but Naylor made that play.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And then two innings later, Wisdom gets the air on
a ball that I could have caught at first base,
and that was just Josh being lazy over Yeah. So
and then he gets thrown out trying to steal. And
I'm not gonna come down too hard on him, because
that's how he has to steal bases. He has to
sort of semartively, instinctively, I'm ahead of you, and I've
figured out your move, and I'm gonna get there before
(24:27):
you can figure me out. And so you're gonna get
caught occasionally playing a game that way. Yeah, But he
just had a hot and cold week, and he's kind
of had a hot and cold season so far this year.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
He has and we talked a little bit about him
last week too, and just I was looking up his
numbers from last year when he came to the Mariners. Defensively,
I think he had a point seven war in the
second half of the season defensively two point two overall,
and when he was here and he's at like a
point minus point seven narrow something. Errors, Yeah, it's it's one.
(25:03):
Last year was definitely an anomaly with what we saw
when he came here. We were not we were gifted
some exceptional defense from him, which is not doesn't seem
to be how his career has usually been. This year
seems to be more on par with how he is.
But it seems extra sloppy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But it's not it's not anything. I mean, you can
see the skill over there. It's it's a lack of.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Focus, it seems like it at times.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, and taking too many risks, and you know that
that needs to be curbed because I think he definitely
has the glove work skill over there, and he we
know how knowledgeable he is, how smart he is, but
I think he's just trying to be too clever when
he's between the lines, and I think it's costing him
all right, KA is for cad this September South Paul
(25:49):
and I don't know if he'll be used in the
starting rotation, as I said in the previous segment, but
I wanted to just clear it up. I do think
he is going to be used. Kate Anderson our top
prospect now that Emerson's Colt Emerson is up with the club.
He's certainly our best prospect right now, and he's dominating
Double A. They're going to use him this hit. Yeah,
(26:09):
They're limiting his innings on a night by night basis
for a reason because they want him to have enough
gas left in the tank to be able to use
him probably in September and then into the playoffs. Now
whether or not that's as a starter, I don't know.
Maybe it will be some sort of bullpen piece, long
relief piece that they could use as a weapon because
(26:30):
the rest of the league has not seen him yet.
But Kate Anderson is going to be used, I can
promise you.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And I hope he is because I think everybody would
be really excited to see him.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And he won't be involved in a Schooball trade or
a Buxton trade or any other trade or piggyback.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He just had to throw that out there.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Finally, l is for the lases. I don't know. It's
hard for me to believe that I would ever have
ell As for laz and yet I got two lasses
I'm going to talk about today. It's got to be
a record. So Lasdas showed us yesterday. First of all,
I love the ABS challenge system. I think it's added
(27:10):
so much to the viewing experience and to the game,
a lot more than I thought it would, and I
thought it was going to add a lot. But I
think in fairness, what it's highlighted to me is how
much how good the umpires really are, that their statistics
are on par with hitters and better than something looks
(27:31):
it sounds like the catchers are better than the umpires
when they're challenging, and they're challenging fifty to fifty balls,
but the umpires are kicking the crap out of hitters.
So I think we need to acknowledge how good they are.
And then all of a sudden, the last Das comes
into your world and they're like, see, it's not just
highlighting how good the umpires actually are, it's also highlighting
(27:56):
how bad the bad ones are.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
He needs to go, Yeah, he's not good, and you
know it is. It is interesting because obviously, when the
catchers are doing their challenges, they're the only ones that
have a better view of where the pitch actually went
than the umpire does. So it makes sense that they
would be, you know, be able to get some of
those times.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
They're also trying to fool the umpire, right, they're not
trying to fool themselves, right.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Exactly that too.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But yeah, then then it's just I don't know, I
find myself as you. I'm fascinated by this ABS challenge system.
It brings a lot. But boy, when the umpire is bad,
it is glaring.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Glaring, right, and then we still can't take advantage of him.
So we had one of the bad umpires last night
and we lost versus last Dias on a day in
which he was completely off his game.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, and here's an excusable.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Dylan Dingler won like seventy four challenges yesterday and we
went one for three. Yes, I mean, how bad can
we be at this? I want it taken away from Randy.
He's lost all of his privileges. He doesn't know when
to use it. He just doesn't knowing to use.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
He gets a little emotional, which is what we said
before it started, like you cannot be using it in
the situation where it's kind of trying to help your ego.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
The other Lass is Las Montes. I was told on
air and off air by Justin Hollander himself when I
joked that Las Montes is going to hit forty home
runs this year, and that was a joke. I was
kind of kidding around, and he said, if Las Montes
is hitting forty home runs this year, I promise you
(29:29):
some of those are going to be in a Mariner uniform.
That's what he said. Las Montes is at seventeen home
runs and we're not even to the All Star break.
He is on fire since June. Oh he's hitting five
hundred since June started and has already hit five home
runs this month. Now, he doesn't hit lefties. I looked
up the splits. I mean, he's really struggling against lefties.
(29:52):
So you would, undoubtedly if if you brought him up
at some point this year, you'd have to use him
in a platoon. He'd have to be Rayley's or ken Zone.
There's no room for another one of those guys. You
can't have three of those guys on the team, so
he's got to be one or the other, right, But
I mean he's tearing the car. He's at seventeen home
(30:12):
runs already, He's at five this month for Arkansas, so
he's absolutely on fire. If he's locked in, if he's
figured something out at this stage in his young career.
He's only twenty one, but they compare him to you
or Don Alvarez, for goodness sake, pretty good comparison to
have as a power hitter. So if he's suddenly turned
that page, if he's figured something out, and we'll need
(30:33):
more time to monitor that. According to Hollander himself, he
will be up with this team. And I'm wondering where
and how. That's what I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Let's go all right. One last thing next to close
out the show. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
my final segment of this Monday edition of Chucking Buck
(31:04):
in the Morning, that we hand things off to Greg
and Christopher are more capable, Hair, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That's what I say about them all the time.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, well you can count on them, so lean into it, Ashley.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's all I think about.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Are all right, Well, it's our final segment of the day.
You know how we do that. It's one last thing time.
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was about to go on I'm Ashley and this
is the news.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
News.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
So they came out today and said that Brendan Soresby's
appeal has been granted and that he will not be
able to play in the first two games for Texas Tech,
but he'll be there for their conference opener. Obviously this
is pending another appeal. But the idea that it was
a local judge who kind of said, you know, we're
(31:55):
gonna I'm gonna give grant this, which, first of all, okay,
local judge probably a Texas Tech fan. Yeah, maybe a
Texas Tech fan. Definitely has Texas Tech connections.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I just I feel like, if I'm a local judge,
I'm staying far away from that because that's going to
look real bad. It's a lose lose situation for him, right.
And also, I'm sorry, Brendan Sorosby. I understand that you
had to go to a rehab because you've got a
gambling addiction, that it is a real problem, but you
bet on college sports, on games that you were playing.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
In and you are.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That is a no, no, there's no excuse you can't.
You can't because you have an addiction. Then say it
didn't happen. It did happen, go take care of it.
They're two separate things, though. You don't get to take
care of it and then just go back to business
as usual because you went to rehab.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't know if I've ever sided with the NCAA
since like nineteen eighty five. Yeah, me, neither a while.
But if they don't get their way here, I mean,
it's total anarchy. Yeah, Like, if they set this precedent
that it's so okay to gamble on your own team
playing college football such a bad luck, then how are
(33:07):
they going to stop this? I mean, obviously the gambling
is be getting bigger and bigger and bigger, the daily
betting that you know, younger people are are doing it
more than ever before. I even considered gambling when I
was a kid until I got to I moved to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I didn't have any money to gamble. But that's different
for him.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm I guess I moved to Vegas, that was the
first time I even consider Oh okay, yeah, I'd like
to place a bet. That's first I'm even considered it.
I mean, kids are growing up on it now, they're
doing it in high school for goodness sake. I mean,
this is the slippery slope that we all signed up.
We all agreed that this is okay introduce into our society.
But there's got to be rules in certain areas, and
(33:48):
college football, college athletics has to crack down on the
swordsby types. Yeah, and if you allow this, then how
can you govern the problem going through?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, you definitely can't.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You can't say you have to then allow gambling on everything,
because you just basically have done that by say it. Ah,
he's going to be suspended two games. That's not going
to stop anybody. And he fully broke the rules, like
the well known rules. It wasn't an accident. He didn't
accidentally bet on his team one time. This was over
and over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Whoops, I accidentally bet on my team forty times.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I did it again, guys.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Last thing from me, and we'll do more on this tomorrow.
Only got forty five seconds here, So I'll just say this,
I really don't know how to cover the World Cup
for you. Hell, we were supposed to have meetings. I
guess I missed it while I was taking my two
days off. I've been waiting for that meeting for a
while because I was looking to about a lot. I
(34:46):
was looking to gain some valuable information. So I think
we spend some time tomorrow, like what do you want
from us? What do you want from us over the
next few weeks?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Let us know a.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Show that's not exactly our expertise is not soccer. I
admittedly don't even like the sport, but obviously I want
all soccer fans, football fans and all of Seattle to
just have a ball the next month. What do you
so we should spend some time on this tomorrow. What
do you want from us? What do you want from
the morning show? I won't speak on BAP of other shows.
What do you want from us? What information do you
(35:16):
want us delivered? Because I'm pretty sure it's not analysis.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
No, we're going to have an expert join us once
a week.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
We'll get experts to provide analysis. That's that's what That's
what we'll do. But beyond that, like, what do you
want updates on? What do you want to hear? What
do you what encapsulates. Hey, the World Cup is in Seattle,
and you guys should be talking about it. Okay, if
I meet you that far, just tell me what should
(35:43):
we be talking about?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right, Yeah, that would be helpful.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I'm not going to be able to break this sport
down for you. I'm just not going to be able
to do that. Yeah, So maybe we have that discussion tomorrow.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, I get an idea from people exactly how they
want their sports talk radio station to cover the World Cup.
All right, coming up next, we've got Greg Bell Chris Kidd.
Like I said, very reliable, very capable. We'll talk to
you tomorrow. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.
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