June 9, 2026 • 35 mins
Seahawks One Series with ROBERT TURBIN (Sirius XM) Does Zach Charbonnet have what it takes to be the number one running back in this Seahawks offense? Is the timeline for Charbonnet’s return too aggressive? When Charbs returns, will Jadarian Price step right into the Walker role and will the two of them give us what we saw last year? Can Emmanuel Wilson step up and fill the Zach Charbonnet role until Charbonnet comes back? Who does Turbo think will step up and snag some carries this season? What will this offense miss the most with Charbonnet out for a chunk of the season? :30- It’s time for the Baseball Brunch starring Josh Naylor and Emerson Hancock. What a game yesterday! Let’s just say, it was a LOT closer than the score indicated. :45- Sup with You? It’s happening a little earlier in the week than usual, but let’s face it, we need your help!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We roll into our eight o'clock hour and we have
the Seahawks One Series for you. That's right every June,
every day of June for the past few years, so
we all always do the Seahawks One Series. That's one
analyst slash insider in town bringing down one key Seahawks
player for one entire interview. And today, yes, he's doing
work with serious. He has a podcast here locally as well,
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after every Seahawk game that he is a part of.
He had the best biceps in the history of the
National Football League and he played for your Seahawks as well.
You know him, you love him. It's Turbo himself. Robert
Turbin now joins us for our Seahawks one series here
on Chuck and Buck Turbo.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How are you hey, I'm doing really, I'm doing great.
How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So I'm doing all right? Is it number one NFL history?
I mean, will they make iron busts of your biceps
and put them in the Hall of Fame someday?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I don't know if they're gonna do that. I've
got some competition over the years. But it is hard work,
hard work. K's off. That's I can say about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Uh, well, I'm going to get into our Seahawks one
Series player. I'm gonna cheat a little bit though. Speaking
of biceps, what was your reaction to seeing Miles Garrett
joined the NFC West last week?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, it was the shocking trade, only in the sense
that the l A Rams were the ones that capture them.
You know, I thought that the Grounds making the deal
wasn't so shocking, but the la Rams kind of suping
in and getting them was the was the factor. And
you know, obviously they're trying to maximize the last couple
of years in Matthew Staffords and good on them.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Super Bowl Champ Robert Turbin is with us here for
our Seahawks one Series Today one analysts bring it down
one key Shawk player for one entire interview. So let's
get to it. Who are we going to break down today?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, you know who got to go to the backfield,
There's no doubt about that. And the guy that has
sort of bursted onto the scene last season, had a
nice year before the injury kind of gave it away
right there. But Zak Charbona is what I want to
talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I love it. Well, let's get into it. Let me
ask I think this is the big question, especially since
we're adding a rookie which we'll get to in a
moment in that backfield to replace ken Walker. But push
comes to shove Zach Charbonay returns healthy at some point
during the course of the season. Do you think he
is a guy that is good enough to be a
number one running back for a Super Bowl champion?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, yes, I do. I do. I do think that
he has all of the qualities and all of what
it takes to be a three down back in the NFL,
a three down back for a Super Bowl championship winning team.
You think about his run style. It's physical. You can
check that box. You know, he gets down, he'll he's decisive.
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You can check that box. And got good guys and
things of that nature. You can check that box. And
then most importantly, you know, you think about his ability
to be able to make plays on third down. You
don't think Zach Sharpney is the most uh you know,
you know him has a as a large receiving threat,
but he does have good hands that he can pass protect.
And if you can get a guy that can recognize
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blitz you know, blitz concepts or third down and be
able to step in and get it done from a
mental and physical standpoint where you've got yourself a three
down back that you can win the Super Bowl with.
And so he, of course, in my eyes, can be
a number one running back on the super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, you sound sounded legitimately surprised. I was even questioning it.
I mean, how good do you think he could be
if he was just let loose and let rip during
a season?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, I think he could be a really great player,
you know, I really do. I mean, the Seahawks, over
the course of the franchise's history, has always found ways
to you know, bring in, you know, some all time
great running backs. Think about the Kurt wi Owners of
the world and obviously the Seine Alexander's and you know,
I think if ken Walker the third would have stuck around,
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he would have been an all time great Seahawkey was
obviously a Super Bowl MVP, not to mention you know,
Marshaun Lynch and other guys, and so, you know, with
more repetition and more opportunity, you get a guy that's
working hard and does all the right things on and
off the field, you know, you can become a great player.
And I think that Zach Charbonay is on track to
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be able to accomplish that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Robert Turbin is though with us for our one series.
We're talking about Zach Charbonet right now, who is injured
ACL injury is going to be targeted for a mid
season return for the Seahawks. I think that might be
a little bit optimistic. How worried are you about that
recovery time?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's a little bit concerning. I tore my ACL in
January of two thousand ten. I was still in college,
and the retur can be gruesome, you know, just to
kinning on the severity of the injury and if there's
any complications with the surgery and stuff like that. I
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was able to return to full speed in eight months.
I know guys are doing it a lot sooner now.
But I didn't play that season, and I didn't play
that season because I knew that I probably wouldn't be myself,
and I knew that I only had one more year
of college left and I wanted to maximize that opportunity,
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and so I read shirted that year so I can
come back and actually feel like myself, not have to
wear the knee brace and feel super restricted and all
of those things. And so my only concern is that,
you know, when he first comes back and he takes
those first couple hits, how stiff does the need get?
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You know, how explosive can he be on a down
to down bases on a game the game basis, I
don't know what kind of shape are you going to be,
And there's nothing like football shape until you're actually playing
football and you're in the game, and so you know,
I don't know how quickly Zach is going to be
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able to get acquainted when it comes back mid season,
But if he's able to finish the season strong, I
think the year after is when we'll see the real
Zach Sarburney back after.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Having been through it yourself. How important it is is
it not to rush it, not to try to feel
like I've got to get back for my teammates. How
important is it to make sure that you're one hundred
percent recovered from this major injury.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's actually the most important part of it. And it's
so hard when you're an athlete. You feel pressure, you
don't want your job to get taken. I mean, it's
just a different atmosphere, especially at the pro level, and
so guys make tough decisions when it comes to injuries
all the time. Yeah, but the Seahawks, you know, I
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played for four teams in the NFL. The Seahawks by by,
by far, were the best in terms of, you know,
ensuring that players are taken care of from a medical standpoint.
I'm sure they're willing and open to practicing as much
patience as it takes in order for Zach Sabiney to
be the best that he can be when he comes back.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Robert Turbin is with that's part of our Seahawks one series.
Former Seahawk running back, and of course he's got his
feet both planet in the broadcasting world now serious sports
CBS Sports Network. He's podcasting here on a local basis
and and we've discovered a really great talent here for
breaking down some Seahawks football. So we're tapping into it
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here on Seahawks one series. And he's chosen Zach Charboney.
Of course, he chose a running back biased to break
down for us here today. And we got a lot
more to discuss about Zach Charbonay because Ideal World Charbonay returns,
you know, waits the full distance gets back, say late October, Robert,
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do you foresee Jadarian Price kind of just stepping right
into the Walker role and so it just turns into
Charbonnet and Price at some point during twenty twenty six,
or do you think that the the carry sharing will
be divvied up a little differently if in fact these
two end up being a two headed machine.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, Jenerium Price has no choice to to accept that.
Quote unquote Kenneth Walker. The third role is the first
round pick, and so he got some big shoes to
fill as the as the primary back going into the season.
He's going to be the primary back going into the season,
despite whatever mistakes he might make in the preseason and
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all those things. He's going to be depended on, you know,
to be the guy. And then when that comes back,
you know, I think Zach will probably get you know,
minimal stuff. I don't see Zach getting double digit carries
right away when he returns. He might get five or
six carries in the game. He might work some third
down pass protection stuff, but you know, I don't see
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his load, you know, kind of you know, being very heavy,
especially the start. Now as a season progressives, maybe Judurian
Price starts to hit that rookie wall a little bit.
That's where that betteran presidence with Zach Sharpennay really starts
to show up week twelve, thirteen fourteen, and then you
start to see still some imbalance. I think Juderian Price
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for the majority of the season will get most of
the work, but he'll start to see a little bit
more balance in terms of playtime between the two.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, it's funny you bring up the rookie wall because
as you were saying that, I long expressed you know
that I think it's great to add fresh legs at
the running back position at the end of the season
when everyone else is tired, and all of a sudden
you get some guy back from an injury, or you're
traded for somebody that has all the tread left on
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his tires. It's amazing. I mean, I could point out
a list to you, but there have been a list
of guys that at the end of the year kind
of took over football seasons just because as running backs
they were fresher than the defense defenses trying to bring
them down. So could it be a strange benefit for
Zach Charbonay to miss some time and even though he's
coming off an injury by the time you hit playoff time,
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that he might be the freshest cat out there.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think that's a legitimate point. I think Kenneth Walker
and Third is a good example of that. I mean,
you think about it, there was a heavy share of
time on the field and carry between Zach charboneav Kinder
Walkerer Third and at times even you know, Zach Charbonnay
got the bulk of the work in games, and even
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though kin of Walker Third may have been disappointed in
some of those opportunities win Zack Charbernet went down. You
can see the freshness that kind of Walker the Third
had in that second half run, you know, all the
way through winning a title that he probably wouldn't have
had had he been, you know, the the number one
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guy most of the season, he probably would have you know,
broken down at some point, not gotten injured, but just
not as fresh. So it could absolutely work to your
benefit where you're taking some time off. It's the biggest
thing is just being in shape, man, being in football shape,
and that's hard to do when you ain't playing football.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Robert Turbin is with us part of our Seahawks one
series breaking down Zach Charboney. So theoretically, you know, Charbonnet
and Price are the new Charbonnet and Walker, but Charbona
is not going to be available for a while, as
we've already discussed. So what do you know about Emmanuel
Wilson and can he filled the Charbonnet role until Charbonnet
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himself can fill it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, he certainly has the skill set to do it,
and he wouldn't be on the team if there wasn't
an opportunity to kind of take that role. He does
have similar capabilities in terms of his physicality and being
able to get downhill. I think Jack Charbonnat is a
little bit more elusive in terms of being able to
make guys miss in space. But Emiliam Wilson does have
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that ability to catch the ball out in the back
and he's got good hands. I wouldn't call him a
passing threat per se, but he's available there with the
check down. He's a disciplined player and so the only
thing you worry about with the manual is just the
consistency of production. You know, there are times in Green
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Bay where it was like, oh man, this guy's got
a lot of potential, and then when they gave him
a larger, you know, a load of work. You know,
it didn't quite go so well from you know all
the time, and so you just hope some consistency bands
sometimes it change the scenery could be beneficial for you.
But he certainly has similar qualities to be able to
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step into that role of Zach Charbagnat in the meantime.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You know this group, is there another running back that
you think is a sleeper in all of this for
carries this upcoming season, Somebody, Joe, you pick one from
the letter here that you think we might see more
from than what we are carrying on about right now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, it's gonna be a lot of heavy competition. There
always is. Yeah, if you go around the league running back. Yeah,
I don't know what it is about that position. Maybe
because there's only really one spot out there you know
that you could trust, But there's always so much competition.
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I know a lot of fans, a lot of folks
really love George Hallani. He's one of those guys that
it just feels like every time he gets an opportunity
to play, whether it's on offense or special teams, whatever
it is, he shows up. Yeah, this is the guy
that consistently shows up. You know, obviously he doesn't have
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the intangibles from a size standpoint, but that doesn't matter.
Darren Sproles is one of the best running backs of
all time in my opinion, and he was like five
six or five seven, and so you know, Georgia Lyne
to me is another guy that I would look at
in that room and say, man, he could be a
big time player because of what he's displayed on film
in his history.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Robert Turbin is with us talking Zach Charboney here in
our Seahawks one series. So in the meantime, I mean,
we know we're gonna miss some time with Zach Charbonay
on the sidelines recovering from that acl What is it
about his game that you think that they'll miss the
most is running? Ability, blocking ability, leadership experience. What is
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the thing that we're gonna miss until Zach Charboney gets
out on the football field.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, I think he's an underrated play maker. And that's
the thing that you missed with Kenneth Walker the third
It was just like you almost didn't know what was
going to happen every time he got the ball and
all of a sudden, boomed. You know, he's down the sideline,
you know, for a seventy yard touchdown or some Zack
Charberney has that same sort of playmaking factor to his game.
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You know, you give him the rock, all of a sudden,
he's broken a couple of tackles and he's at the
third level in space, you know, with a chance, with
a chance to take it to the house. And it
feels like whenever the run game may have had a
slow start or not really going well, it was Zach
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Charbonne who boomed, you know, broken tackling all of a sudden,
the run game get it got sparked because of a
big run by Zach Charbonney. So he's an underrated playmaker
and I think that's what you'll miss the most while
he's out.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
All right, Robert Turbin, great stuff, man, What do you
got planned for this summer? Are gonna do anything? Fun?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, we just won our flag football championship this past weekend.
My son is nine. I coached the team this year,
so that was a lot of fun, my daughters and
Dan and so we've got a couple of trips down
to southern California because she'll be she's fourteen going on
like thirty, but she'll be performing in some concerts and
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stuff like that in southern California this summer. So we
got a couple of trips to support her and her
dreams and things of that nature. So a fun and
eventful summer coming up. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That sounds great. Turbine fan is gonna be busy. By
the way, your guy, Bobby Wagner got his doctorate apparently
once all his friends and family and others to call
him doctor Wagner. Are you gonna Are you gonna do that?
Are you gonna fall in line call him doctor Wagner?
From this point forward, I'm still.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm gonna call him doctor b doctor b wag you know,
because I still have to. I still have to implement
the nick name. The nickname can't go anywhere, you know,
So doctor b Wags. That's how I'm gonna proach the situation.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well you you do you, that's for sure? All right, man,
awesome stuff, Thank you very much. We'll bug you again soon.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
All right, all right, man, take care?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
All right. Robert Turbin joining us right here on Chuck
and Buck in the morning. Good stuff, good breakdown of
Zach Charbonnay there from Turbo and we'll do this again
tomorrow with our Seahawks one series once a day every
day throughout the month of June. Coming up next though,
we do have a baseball game to recap. And yes,
I know the catch, the drive and now the challenge,
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the challenge that changed our lives. Plus Josh Naylor had
a pretty big influence on the game last night as well,
So we recap it with the Baseball Brunch next on
Sports Rate ninety three point three KJRFM. Time for the
Baseball Brunch. Our recap at eight o'clock recap of last
night's Mariners game. And it was a wild one, six
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to three the final score. The Ms take out the
Baltimore Orioles. But I think it's fair to say, Ashley,
it wasn't easy.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think that's an understatement, Chuck.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean it got Harry at one point up and
sprouted hair.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean it was again stressful.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I said it earlier, I'll say it again, the most
stressful game I can remember with that large of a lead.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, a lot of different things were featured in this game,
including well Emerson Hancock got featured in this game as
the starter, we featured a lot of interesting bullpen decisions.
Randy a Rose Arena has Forgotten to run? How to
run the bases? That also got featured last night. But
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I think today's show is starring Josh Naylor.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Lifted deep right field to Varis is lucky and it's God.
A grand slam for Josh Naylor, a five one Mariners lead.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Mariner's TV Aaron waited that hold us like, I don't
want to say it's gone until I know for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
He really wanted to make sure he stretched it out.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
He waited till it was in that goofy looking Orioles
fans glove. Yeah, before he declared it all the.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Even then he probably was like, yes, yeh is.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
The railing a home run the rail because he reached
over the rail. Grand slam for Josh Naylor in the
fifth inning kind of blew it open a little bit.
At the time team built a five to one lead
there in the fifth Emerson Hancock only went five innings.
He allowed just one run, but he was up to
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ninety two pitches and I don't know, it just does
not seem that this is what you do when you
have a six man rotation. You've taken away a relief
pitcher from your bullpen, and you're giving all of your
pitchers an extra day off this week. As a matter
of fact, they have had two extra days off because
they had the off day on Thursday. And so if
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you're not gonna push Emerson past ninety two pitches and
a six man rotation, when are you going to try
and test our starter's endurance. But Dan Wilson opted to
take Emerson Hancock out of the game. He went to
Cooper Criswell for an inning and too much just to
hear Matt Brash came in and was wild. I mean,
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he did not know where he was throwing the baseball
last night. Matt Brash. Yeah, but he got a help.
He got help from Johnny Parada and the new ABS
Challenge system, the challenge of our lifetimes. Last night, Brash
did not look like he was going to keep the
Orioles from overtaking the Mariners in the seventh inning, and instead,
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on a three to two count, Johnny Parada challenges a
pitch up in the zone and barely in the zone,
gets it overturned to Pete Alonzo's chagrin, and that pretty
much won the game, did it not?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Oh yeah, because that would have been such a difference
maker to have the bases loader and you bring in
a run. And I mean that that strike call, it
was like by the seam of the baseball was the
only thing that went over that line.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And the look on Parida's.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Face when he got it, because he has to challenge it,
whether it is or not.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
In that moment, it was close enough. You have to.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Whether he was right or not. That is a great challenge.
That's how it's got to be used. And man, think
about this, had Randy a Rose Arena pulled a Randy
A Rose Arena and challenged a second inning ball call
or strike call and it was right down the middle
of the plate, we would not have had that challece
because Parade had already missed one. And Parade is not
very good at this Garver's grade at it, Cal's grade
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at it. Parade has not been very good at challenging.
And so for him to at that moment recognize, I mean,
that's the situation that you challenge in and situation to
me is more important than anything, absolutely, And so you
had one in your pocket. That was a huge moment
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in the game. Everybody recognized it, uh, and to get
that clipped and he didn't know, he didn't know for
sure if that was a strike risk. He took the
risk because the situation dictated that it was worth the
risk at that point. And they got it narrowly and
Alonzo ends up striking out rather than walking. So that's
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six to two still at that point, and not six
to three with the bases loaded and still one out.
You now have two outs at that point. You get
out of the inning. Brash not good at all last night,
got saved by the challenge. It was the best challenge
of our lifetime ever.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And I hope that they made a big damn deal
about it in the clubhouse after and said, now this
is why we have to be careful about when we challenge.
That was the perfect usage of a challenge at the
perfect time, even if he wouldn't have gotten it right exactly,
that's when you have to use it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, And man, think about how much this challenge system
has changed the game. To have that moment last night,
I mean, what were what did we do without this?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I don't remember those days? Do we not?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Has this not always been around so Brash pitchclock. They've
always been there with help.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Brash gets out of it. Bizarta was not good last
night either, but kept the damage limited. And then Andres
Munnos comes back from Sunday's failure and looked dominant last
night for the save as tenth of the season, and
the Mariners do win a game much closer than the
final score indicated. Six to three is your final score.
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Emerson Hancock gets the win. He's now five and two
the year, if that means anything to anybody anymore. And
he also lowered his ERA last night to two point
seven four. I mean, this dude's an All Star right now.
They're choosing the All Star team. Emerson Ancock is on
the All Star team. That's how good he's been so
far this year. Here he was after the game with
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the noun visit with Johnny and Pete.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Looked like there's quite a bit of communication going on.
It's it's just a matter of getting on the same
page about what you were trying to do there. Yeah,
I mean, I think when you're in a big spot,
in a big situation, like you need to know like
what you were trying to do. And I just think
all three of us, you know, we're on the same page.
You know, we had the meeting before. You have a
situation that arises in the game and you need to
stick to that, and it's just got one iron trying
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to execute it. I mean, I thought tonight was just
about our guys and our offense and just trying to
keep him in there do everything. I could go out
into a zero forest when we at the beginning, So
that's off those guys. It's great defensive plays everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
To want to ask you about Mooney and these episode
been going through. It didn't be able to get right
back out there.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
It sounds back the way it just what can they
do for him in his confidence?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I just speaks to who he is as a player.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I mean, this game is about, you know, responding, and
tonight like a huge moment for him, you know, to
put yesterday behind an account. Aaron had a huge say
for our team and that's who Moony is. A means,
a fighter's a competitor and there's nobody else out there.
We want an idea. You know, you've had his back
quite a bit this season and just some of his
struggles coming games.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
That you've started.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Why is it so important for you and the rest
of your guys to continue to pick him up by
when he scuffles. I mean we're a team, Like, we
are a team. We are together. I mean there's gonna
be nights where we have to pick.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Each other up.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
And it's a long season and it's just about sticking together,
continue fighting. And you know, when you know the guys
behind you believe in you, it can help you in
those moments out there.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh the southern gentleman Emerson Hancock with all the words
of the soothsayer.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I just love when when he's asked, why is it
so important for you guys.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
To pick him up? He's like, we're a team, Like,
come on, man, why are you asking me that? Come on,
can't you tell we're a team. We've got this, We've
got each other.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well. I also loved that he had the back of
Johnny Parada too. We're just making sure we're all on
the same page. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, there,
that's not what that exchange was. That was Pete Woodworth
coming out because you needed to tell Johnny pareda with
a witness to stop fing things up. So that was
a one sided get your stuff together conversation, And I
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didn't think Emerson Hancock was even capable of that. I mean,
if you meet this guy, I mean he's he's a
sugar plumb. I mean, he's as sweet a young man
as you're ever going to come across. Not named Andre's
Munio's probably, and I didn't even know he had that
kind of backbone in him. But he took on a
veteran catcher and told him what's what on the mound,
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and whatever he did, he got Johnny to correctly challenge
a call.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yes, so I think the challenge, actually, you know what,
we gave the credit to Johnny goes to Emerson.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, maybe maybe it got him on his game because
he got he scared him stiff. So look at Emerson
Hancock go all right? So what did we learn today?
Kids in the baseball brunch? We learned that grand slams
are helpful?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Okay, my daughter Palmer, the great you know her, you are,
she used to call them four run home runs. Yes, yeah,
now she knows it's a grand slam. That was back
in the day, but I still think of them as
four run home runs from time to time.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Also helpful, a four run home run. We also learned
that in a six man rotation, you might have to
ask your starting pitchers to go longer than you've customarily
used or customarily used them. I don't quite understand what's
happening with this.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I thought I was half the point.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, exactly, extra day rest, one fewer guy in your bullpen,
so you go longer. So you might have to go
a little bit beyond what they're used to, the ideas
that you're giving them an extra day rest so they
can go ten more pitches. Yeah, and see if he
could have got through the sixth, especially when you put
all of these bullpen obstacles in your path of guys
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that you don't want to go to and guys you
absolutely can't go to. You had twelve outs to go
last night, and then you ask Cooper Criswell to do
more than what you've been asking him to do as
of late, and he got into trouble versus asking Emerson
Hancock to do a little bit more than he's used
to doing. I thought that was the idea about the
six man rotation, is that we would have the opportunity
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to push our starters a little bit further. That said,
I do hesitate in questioning, like how they maintain health
because they're do it better than anyone else in the
entire sport with their pitchers, So obviously there's a method
here that they subscribe to. But man, we seem to
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be having difficulty having a number enough pitchers to get
the requisite twenty seven outs in a game, even though
our relief pitchers are throwing fewer innings than any other
relief group in the entire American league. That doesn't even
make sense to me. And then the third thing that
we learned here is that the challenge can be our friend.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean, and that wasn't even the only great challenge
of the day too. That was the best one. Yeah,
but we also had the one that took away the
run with the tag at second base by Bliss.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
That's true, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
We are the best in the world challenges.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Here's a good idea for the whole team. Let's use
them to our advantage.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's a great idea, like all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right, Okay, maybe not just waste them early and stupid stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
A really genius plan. Should we write it down?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
This throw it no idea is a bad idea of
just throwing that against a hole.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Seeing if it sticks all right? Do you want to
let you know that?
Speaker 5 (29:50):
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I think that's the best way to go about it.
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Oh I know. And then of course you could use
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even though I'm perfectly open to some unseerious responses, yes,
and we'll get those. But the World Cup is here,
and I am not a soccer fan and I have
never covered the World Cup in my life, and frankly,
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I don't know how to. And so I know you
don't want my analysis, even you soccer fans, And yet
I want you. I mean, you don't get the World
Cup to come to your community ever, and so I
want soccer fans and even just the moderate soccer fans
that just love events and love showcasing Seattle. I want
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you guys to have the time of your lives and
I want us to be part of that.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yes, but I don't know how to be right. We
don't want to pretend to be soccer experts.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't, Yeah, I'm not even there's no chance, and
you don't want me to. You don't want me to
bring my analysis to every soccer match. I mean, we'll
have some people. We got Brad Evans on tomorrow, We're
gonna have Anders and Jackson on more than you probably
want us to. So I mean, we're going to provide
some expert analysis for you from other folks. But how
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the course of the next month. What do you want
us to cover? Is it like the events, the surround,
just the energy, just the atmosphere, what what do you
want out of it? Yeah, tell us what you want
from us from World Cup coverage. As talk show hosts,
We're not reporters. I'm not gonna go walk a beat. Nope,
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I'm not going to report back to you. That's not
what I do. I'm a talk show host. So what
opinions do you want us to kind of share? What
topics and conversations do you want us to get into
over the course of the next month. How do you
want us to cover the World Cup?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, because I would say, like, probably let's talk about
oh wow, that was great, that was exciting, there's the
atmosphere around town, all those kind of things, and not
giving too much to each individual game unless it's just
something that you know is unavoidable. But as far as yeah,
what happened in that game or what that loss or
win means for what group are who and what that's
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what other people are for.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Well, I mean I can I can monitor that, I
can monitor the numbers and what needs to happen and
things of that nature. So that's one thing I could
provide certainly here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
is keeping you up to speed on who's playing where
and yes, what those games, what those games mean. So
there's an idea right there that gets it started right there, Jeels,
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But I'm gonna leave it for the rest of you.
I mean because some of you are soccer fans out there,
and even though you listen to this radio show and
you know that we're never going to talk soccer and
probably don't want us to talk soccer, you want soccer
talked about if you're going to tune into Sports Talk radio,
because even though you love your football and you love
your baseball and you love your basketball, you also love
yourself some soccer and would like some sort of coverage
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We roll into our eight o'clock hour and we have
the Seahawks One Series for you. That's right every June,
every day of June for the past few years, so
we all always do the Seahawks One Series. That's one
analyst slash insider in town bringing down one key Seahawks
player for one entire interview. And today, yes, he's doing
work with serious. He has a podcast here locally as well,
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after every Seahawk game that he is a part of.
He had the best biceps in the history of the
National Football League and he played for your Seahawks as well.
You know him, you love him. It's Turbo himself. Robert
Turbin now joins us for our Seahawks one series here
on Chuck and Buck Turbo.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How are you hey, I'm doing really, I'm doing great.
How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So I'm doing all right? Is it number one NFL history?
I mean, will they make iron busts of your biceps
and put them in the Hall of Fame someday?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I don't know if they're gonna do that. I've
got some competition over the years. But it is hard work,
hard work. K's off. That's I can say about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Uh, well, I'm going to get into our Seahawks one
Series player. I'm gonna cheat a little bit though. Speaking
of biceps, what was your reaction to seeing Miles Garrett
joined the NFC West last week?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, it was the shocking trade, only in the sense
that the l A Rams were the ones that capture them.
You know, I thought that the Grounds making the deal
wasn't so shocking, but the la Rams kind of suping
in and getting them was the was the factor. And
you know, obviously they're trying to maximize the last couple
of years in Matthew Staffords and good on them.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Super Bowl Champ Robert Turbin is with us here for
our Seahawks one Series Today one analysts bring it down
one key Shawk player for one entire interview. So let's
get to it. Who are we going to break down today?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, you know who got to go to the backfield,
There's no doubt about that. And the guy that has
sort of bursted onto the scene last season, had a
nice year before the injury kind of gave it away
right there. But Zak Charbona is what I want to
talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I love it. Well, let's get into it. Let me
ask I think this is the big question, especially since
we're adding a rookie which we'll get to in a
moment in that backfield to replace ken Walker. But push
comes to shove Zach Charbonay returns healthy at some point
during the course of the season. Do you think he
is a guy that is good enough to be a
number one running back for a Super Bowl champion?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, yes, I do. I do. I do think that
he has all of the qualities and all of what
it takes to be a three down back in the NFL,
a three down back for a Super Bowl championship winning team.
You think about his run style. It's physical. You can
check that box. You know, he gets down, he'll he's decisive.
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You can check that box. And got good guys and
things of that nature. You can check that box. And
then most importantly, you know, you think about his ability
to be able to make plays on third down. You
don't think Zach Sharpney is the most uh you know,
you know him has a as a large receiving threat,
but he does have good hands that he can pass protect.
And if you can get a guy that can recognize
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blitz you know, blitz concepts or third down and be
able to step in and get it done from a
mental and physical standpoint where you've got yourself a three
down back that you can win the Super Bowl with.
And so he, of course, in my eyes, can be
a number one running back on the super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, you sound sounded legitimately surprised. I was even questioning it.
I mean, how good do you think he could be
if he was just let loose and let rip during
a season?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, I think he could be a really great player,
you know, I really do. I mean, the Seahawks, over
the course of the franchise's history, has always found ways
to you know, bring in, you know, some all time
great running backs. Think about the Kurt wi Owners of
the world and obviously the Seine Alexander's and you know,
I think if ken Walker the third would have stuck around,
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he would have been an all time great Seahawkey was
obviously a Super Bowl MVP, not to mention you know,
Marshaun Lynch and other guys, and so, you know, with
more repetition and more opportunity, you get a guy that's
working hard and does all the right things on and
off the field, you know, you can become a great player.
And I think that Zach Charbonay is on track to
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be able to accomplish that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Robert Turbin is though with us for our one series.
We're talking about Zach Charbonet right now, who is injured
ACL injury is going to be targeted for a mid
season return for the Seahawks. I think that might be
a little bit optimistic. How worried are you about that
recovery time?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's a little bit concerning. I tore my ACL in
January of two thousand ten. I was still in college,
and the retur can be gruesome, you know, just to
kinning on the severity of the injury and if there's
any complications with the surgery and stuff like that. I
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was able to return to full speed in eight months.
I know guys are doing it a lot sooner now.
But I didn't play that season, and I didn't play
that season because I knew that I probably wouldn't be myself,
and I knew that I only had one more year
of college left and I wanted to maximize that opportunity,
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and so I read shirted that year so I can
come back and actually feel like myself, not have to
wear the knee brace and feel super restricted and all
of those things. And so my only concern is that,
you know, when he first comes back and he takes
those first couple hits, how stiff does the need get?
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You know, how explosive can he be on a down
to down bases on a game the game basis, I
don't know what kind of shape are you going to be,
And there's nothing like football shape until you're actually playing
football and you're in the game, and so you know,
I don't know how quickly Zach is going to be
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able to get acquainted when it comes back mid season,
But if he's able to finish the season strong, I
think the year after is when we'll see the real
Zach Sarburney back after.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Having been through it yourself. How important it is is
it not to rush it, not to try to feel
like I've got to get back for my teammates. How
important is it to make sure that you're one hundred
percent recovered from this major injury.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's actually the most important part of it. And it's
so hard when you're an athlete. You feel pressure, you
don't want your job to get taken. I mean, it's
just a different atmosphere, especially at the pro level, and
so guys make tough decisions when it comes to injuries
all the time. Yeah, but the Seahawks, you know, I
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played for four teams in the NFL. The Seahawks by by,
by far, were the best in terms of, you know,
ensuring that players are taken care of from a medical standpoint.
I'm sure they're willing and open to practicing as much
patience as it takes in order for Zach Sabiney to
be the best that he can be when he comes back.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Robert Turbin is with that's part of our Seahawks one series.
Former Seahawk running back, and of course he's got his
feet both planet in the broadcasting world now serious sports
CBS Sports Network. He's podcasting here on a local basis
and and we've discovered a really great talent here for
breaking down some Seahawks football. So we're tapping into it
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here on Seahawks one series. And he's chosen Zach Charboney.
Of course, he chose a running back biased to break
down for us here today. And we got a lot
more to discuss about Zach Charbonay because Ideal World Charbonay returns,
you know, waits the full distance gets back, say late October, Robert,
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do you foresee Jadarian Price kind of just stepping right
into the Walker role and so it just turns into
Charbonnet and Price at some point during twenty twenty six,
or do you think that the the carry sharing will
be divvied up a little differently if in fact these
two end up being a two headed machine.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, Jenerium Price has no choice to to accept that.
Quote unquote Kenneth Walker. The third role is the first
round pick, and so he got some big shoes to
fill as the as the primary back going into the season.
He's going to be the primary back going into the season,
despite whatever mistakes he might make in the preseason and
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all those things. He's going to be depended on, you know,
to be the guy. And then when that comes back,
you know, I think Zach will probably get you know,
minimal stuff. I don't see Zach getting double digit carries
right away when he returns. He might get five or
six carries in the game. He might work some third
down pass protection stuff, but you know, I don't see
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his load, you know, kind of you know, being very heavy,
especially the start. Now as a season progressives, maybe Judurian
Price starts to hit that rookie wall a little bit.
That's where that betteran presidence with Zach Sharpennay really starts
to show up week twelve, thirteen fourteen, and then you
start to see still some imbalance. I think Juderian Price
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for the majority of the season will get most of
the work, but he'll start to see a little bit
more balance in terms of playtime between the two.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, it's funny you bring up the rookie wall because
as you were saying that, I long expressed you know
that I think it's great to add fresh legs at
the running back position at the end of the season
when everyone else is tired, and all of a sudden
you get some guy back from an injury, or you're
traded for somebody that has all the tread left on
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his tires. It's amazing. I mean, I could point out
a list to you, but there have been a list
of guys that at the end of the year kind
of took over football seasons just because as running backs
they were fresher than the defense defenses trying to bring
them down. So could it be a strange benefit for
Zach Charbonay to miss some time and even though he's
coming off an injury by the time you hit playoff time,
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that he might be the freshest cat out there.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think that's a legitimate point. I think Kenneth Walker
and Third is a good example of that. I mean,
you think about it, there was a heavy share of
time on the field and carry between Zach charboneav Kinder
Walkerer Third and at times even you know, Zach Charbonnay
got the bulk of the work in games, and even
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though kin of Walker Third may have been disappointed in
some of those opportunities win Zack Charbernet went down. You
can see the freshness that kind of Walker the Third
had in that second half run, you know, all the
way through winning a title that he probably wouldn't have
had had he been, you know, the the number one
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guy most of the season, he probably would have you know,
broken down at some point, not gotten injured, but just
not as fresh. So it could absolutely work to your
benefit where you're taking some time off. It's the biggest
thing is just being in shape, man, being in football shape,
and that's hard to do when you ain't playing football.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Robert Turbin is with us part of our Seahawks one
series breaking down Zach Charboney. So theoretically, you know, Charbonnet
and Price are the new Charbonnet and Walker, but Charbona
is not going to be available for a while, as
we've already discussed. So what do you know about Emmanuel
Wilson and can he filled the Charbonnet role until Charbonnet
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himself can fill it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, he certainly has the skill set to do it,
and he wouldn't be on the team if there wasn't
an opportunity to kind of take that role. He does
have similar capabilities in terms of his physicality and being
able to get downhill. I think Jack Charbonnat is a
little bit more elusive in terms of being able to
make guys miss in space. But Emiliam Wilson does have
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that ability to catch the ball out in the back
and he's got good hands. I wouldn't call him a
passing threat per se, but he's available there with the
check down. He's a disciplined player and so the only
thing you worry about with the manual is just the
consistency of production. You know, there are times in Green
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Bay where it was like, oh man, this guy's got
a lot of potential, and then when they gave him
a larger, you know, a load of work. You know,
it didn't quite go so well from you know all
the time, and so you just hope some consistency bands
sometimes it change the scenery could be beneficial for you.
But he certainly has similar qualities to be able to
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step into that role of Zach Charbagnat in the meantime.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You know this group, is there another running back that
you think is a sleeper in all of this for
carries this upcoming season, Somebody, Joe, you pick one from
the letter here that you think we might see more
from than what we are carrying on about right now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, it's gonna be a lot of heavy competition. There
always is. Yeah, if you go around the league running back. Yeah,
I don't know what it is about that position. Maybe
because there's only really one spot out there you know
that you could trust, But there's always so much competition.
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I know a lot of fans, a lot of folks
really love George Hallani. He's one of those guys that
it just feels like every time he gets an opportunity
to play, whether it's on offense or special teams, whatever
it is, he shows up. Yeah, this is the guy
that consistently shows up. You know, obviously he doesn't have
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the intangibles from a size standpoint, but that doesn't matter.
Darren Sproles is one of the best running backs of
all time in my opinion, and he was like five
six or five seven, and so you know, Georgia Lyne
to me is another guy that I would look at
in that room and say, man, he could be a
big time player because of what he's displayed on film
in his history.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Robert Turbin is with us talking Zach Charboney here in
our Seahawks one series. So in the meantime, I mean,
we know we're gonna miss some time with Zach Charbonay
on the sidelines recovering from that acl What is it
about his game that you think that they'll miss the
most is running? Ability, blocking ability, leadership experience. What is
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the thing that we're gonna miss until Zach Charboney gets
out on the football field.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, I think he's an underrated play maker. And that's
the thing that you missed with Kenneth Walker the third
It was just like you almost didn't know what was
going to happen every time he got the ball and
all of a sudden, boomed. You know, he's down the sideline,
you know, for a seventy yard touchdown or some Zack
Charberney has that same sort of playmaking factor to his game.
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You know, you give him the rock, all of a sudden,
he's broken a couple of tackles and he's at the
third level in space, you know, with a chance, with
a chance to take it to the house. And it
feels like whenever the run game may have had a
slow start or not really going well, it was Zach
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Charbonne who boomed, you know, broken tackling all of a sudden,
the run game get it got sparked because of a
big run by Zach Charbonney. So he's an underrated playmaker
and I think that's what you'll miss the most while
he's out.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
All right, Robert Turbin, great stuff, man, What do you
got planned for this summer? Are gonna do anything? Fun?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, we just won our flag football championship this past weekend.
My son is nine. I coached the team this year,
so that was a lot of fun, my daughters and
Dan and so we've got a couple of trips down
to southern California because she'll be she's fourteen going on
like thirty, but she'll be performing in some concerts and
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stuff like that in southern California this summer. So we
got a couple of trips to support her and her
dreams and things of that nature. So a fun and
eventful summer coming up. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That sounds great. Turbine fan is gonna be busy. By
the way, your guy, Bobby Wagner got his doctorate apparently
once all his friends and family and others to call
him doctor Wagner. Are you gonna Are you gonna do that?
Are you gonna fall in line call him doctor Wagner?
From this point forward, I'm still.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm gonna call him doctor b doctor b wag you know,
because I still have to. I still have to implement
the nick name. The nickname can't go anywhere, you know,
So doctor b Wags. That's how I'm gonna proach the situation.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well you you do you, that's for sure? All right, man,
awesome stuff, Thank you very much. We'll bug you again soon.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
All right, all right, man, take care?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
All right. Robert Turbin joining us right here on Chuck
and Buck in the morning. Good stuff, good breakdown of
Zach Charbonnay there from Turbo and we'll do this again
tomorrow with our Seahawks one series once a day every
day throughout the month of June. Coming up next though,
we do have a baseball game to recap. And yes,
I know the catch, the drive and now the challenge,
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the challenge that changed our lives. Plus Josh Naylor had
a pretty big influence on the game last night as well,
So we recap it with the Baseball Brunch next on
Sports Rate ninety three point three KJRFM. Time for the
Baseball Brunch. Our recap at eight o'clock recap of last
night's Mariners game. And it was a wild one, six
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to three the final score. The Ms take out the
Baltimore Orioles. But I think it's fair to say, Ashley,
it wasn't easy.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think that's an understatement, Chuck.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean it got Harry at one point up and
sprouted hair.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean it was again stressful.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I said it earlier, I'll say it again, the most
stressful game I can remember with that large of a lead.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, a lot of different things were featured in this game,
including well Emerson Hancock got featured in this game as
the starter, we featured a lot of interesting bullpen decisions.
Randy a Rose Arena has Forgotten to run? How to
run the bases? That also got featured last night. But
(18:55):
I think today's show is starring Josh Naylor.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Lifted deep right field to Varis is lucky and it's God.
A grand slam for Josh Naylor, a five one Mariners lead.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Mariner's TV Aaron waited that hold us like, I don't
want to say it's gone until I know for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
He really wanted to make sure he stretched it out.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
He waited till it was in that goofy looking Orioles
fans glove. Yeah, before he declared it all the.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Even then he probably was like, yes, yeh is.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
The railing a home run the rail because he reached
over the rail. Grand slam for Josh Naylor in the
fifth inning kind of blew it open a little bit.
At the time team built a five to one lead
there in the fifth Emerson Hancock only went five innings.
He allowed just one run, but he was up to
(20:00):
ninety two pitches and I don't know, it just does
not seem that this is what you do when you
have a six man rotation. You've taken away a relief
pitcher from your bullpen, and you're giving all of your
pitchers an extra day off this week. As a matter
of fact, they have had two extra days off because
they had the off day on Thursday. And so if
(20:23):
you're not gonna push Emerson past ninety two pitches and
a six man rotation, when are you going to try
and test our starter's endurance. But Dan Wilson opted to
take Emerson Hancock out of the game. He went to
Cooper Criswell for an inning and too much just to
hear Matt Brash came in and was wild. I mean,
(20:49):
he did not know where he was throwing the baseball
last night. Matt Brash. Yeah, but he got a help.
He got help from Johnny Parada and the new ABS
Challenge system, the challenge of our lifetimes. Last night, Brash
did not look like he was going to keep the
Orioles from overtaking the Mariners in the seventh inning, and instead,
(21:10):
on a three to two count, Johnny Parada challenges a
pitch up in the zone and barely in the zone,
gets it overturned to Pete Alonzo's chagrin, and that pretty
much won the game, did it not?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Oh yeah, because that would have been such a difference
maker to have the bases loader and you bring in
a run. And I mean that that strike call, it
was like by the seam of the baseball was the
only thing that went over that line.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And the look on Parida's.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Face when he got it, because he has to challenge it,
whether it is or not.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
In that moment, it was close enough. You have to.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Whether he was right or not. That is a great challenge.
That's how it's got to be used. And man, think
about this, had Randy a Rose Arena pulled a Randy
A Rose Arena and challenged a second inning ball call
or strike call and it was right down the middle
of the plate, we would not have had that challece
because Parade had already missed one. And Parade is not
very good at this Garver's grade at it, Cal's grade
(22:09):
at it. Parade has not been very good at challenging.
And so for him to at that moment recognize, I mean,
that's the situation that you challenge in and situation to
me is more important than anything, absolutely, And so you
had one in your pocket. That was a huge moment
(22:29):
in the game. Everybody recognized it, uh, and to get
that clipped and he didn't know, he didn't know for
sure if that was a strike risk. He took the
risk because the situation dictated that it was worth the
risk at that point. And they got it narrowly and
Alonzo ends up striking out rather than walking. So that's
(22:50):
six to two still at that point, and not six
to three with the bases loaded and still one out.
You now have two outs at that point. You get
out of the inning. Brash not good at all last night,
got saved by the challenge. It was the best challenge
of our lifetime ever.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And I hope that they made a big damn deal
about it in the clubhouse after and said, now this
is why we have to be careful about when we challenge.
That was the perfect usage of a challenge at the
perfect time, even if he wouldn't have gotten it right exactly,
that's when you have to use it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, And man, think about how much this challenge system
has changed the game. To have that moment last night,
I mean, what were what did we do without this?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I don't remember those days? Do we not?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Has this not always been around so Brash pitchclock. They've
always been there with help.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Brash gets out of it. Bizarta was not good last
night either, but kept the damage limited. And then Andres
Munnos comes back from Sunday's failure and looked dominant last
night for the save as tenth of the season, and
the Mariners do win a game much closer than the
final score indicated. Six to three is your final score.
(23:57):
Emerson Hancock gets the win. He's now five and two
the year, if that means anything to anybody anymore. And
he also lowered his ERA last night to two point
seven four. I mean, this dude's an All Star right now.
They're choosing the All Star team. Emerson Ancock is on
the All Star team. That's how good he's been so
far this year. Here he was after the game with
(24:18):
the noun visit with Johnny and Pete.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Looked like there's quite a bit of communication going on.
It's it's just a matter of getting on the same
page about what you were trying to do there. Yeah,
I mean, I think when you're in a big spot,
in a big situation, like you need to know like
what you were trying to do. And I just think
all three of us, you know, we're on the same page.
You know, we had the meeting before. You have a
situation that arises in the game and you need to
stick to that, and it's just got one iron trying
(24:43):
to execute it. I mean, I thought tonight was just
about our guys and our offense and just trying to
keep him in there do everything. I could go out
into a zero forest when we at the beginning, So
that's off those guys. It's great defensive plays everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
To want to ask you about Mooney and these episode
been going through. It didn't be able to get right
back out there.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
It sounds back the way it just what can they
do for him in his confidence?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I just speaks to who he is as a player.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I mean, this game is about, you know, responding, and
tonight like a huge moment for him, you know, to
put yesterday behind an account. Aaron had a huge say
for our team and that's who Moony is. A means,
a fighter's a competitor and there's nobody else out there.
We want an idea. You know, you've had his back
quite a bit this season and just some of his
struggles coming games.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
That you've started.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Why is it so important for you and the rest
of your guys to continue to pick him up by
when he scuffles. I mean we're a team, Like, we
are a team. We are together. I mean there's gonna
be nights where we have to pick.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Each other up.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
And it's a long season and it's just about sticking together,
continue fighting. And you know, when you know the guys
behind you believe in you, it can help you in
those moments out there.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh the southern gentleman Emerson Hancock with all the words
of the soothsayer.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I just love when when he's asked, why is it
so important for you guys.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
To pick him up? He's like, we're a team, Like,
come on, man, why are you asking me that? Come on,
can't you tell we're a team. We've got this, We've
got each other.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well. I also loved that he had the back of
Johnny Parada too. We're just making sure we're all on
the same page. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, there,
that's not what that exchange was. That was Pete Woodworth
coming out because you needed to tell Johnny pareda with
a witness to stop fing things up. So that was
a one sided get your stuff together conversation, And I
(26:21):
didn't think Emerson Hancock was even capable of that. I mean,
if you meet this guy, I mean he's he's a
sugar plumb. I mean, he's as sweet a young man
as you're ever going to come across. Not named Andre's
Munio's probably, and I didn't even know he had that
kind of backbone in him. But he took on a
veteran catcher and told him what's what on the mound,
(26:44):
and whatever he did, he got Johnny to correctly challenge
a call.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yes, so I think the challenge, actually, you know what,
we gave the credit to Johnny goes to Emerson.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, maybe maybe it got him on his game because
he got he scared him stiff. So look at Emerson
Hancock go all right? So what did we learn today?
Kids in the baseball brunch? We learned that grand slams
are helpful?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Okay, my daughter Palmer, the great you know her, you are,
she used to call them four run home runs. Yes, yeah,
now she knows it's a grand slam. That was back
in the day, but I still think of them as
four run home runs from time to time.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Also helpful, a four run home run. We also learned
that in a six man rotation, you might have to
ask your starting pitchers to go longer than you've customarily
used or customarily used them. I don't quite understand what's
happening with this.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I thought I was half the point.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, exactly, extra day rest, one fewer guy in your bullpen,
so you go longer. So you might have to go
a little bit beyond what they're used to, the ideas
that you're giving them an extra day rest so they
can go ten more pitches. Yeah, and see if he
could have got through the sixth, especially when you put
all of these bullpen obstacles in your path of guys
(28:02):
that you don't want to go to and guys you
absolutely can't go to. You had twelve outs to go
last night, and then you ask Cooper Criswell to do
more than what you've been asking him to do as
of late, and he got into trouble versus asking Emerson
Hancock to do a little bit more than he's used
to doing. I thought that was the idea about the
six man rotation, is that we would have the opportunity
(28:26):
to push our starters a little bit further. That said,
I do hesitate in questioning, like how they maintain health
because they're do it better than anyone else in the
entire sport with their pitchers, So obviously there's a method
here that they subscribe to. But man, we seem to
(28:47):
be having difficulty having a number enough pitchers to get
the requisite twenty seven outs in a game, even though
our relief pitchers are throwing fewer innings than any other
relief group in the entire American league. That doesn't even
make sense to me. And then the third thing that
we learned here is that the challenge can be our friend.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean, and that wasn't even the only great challenge
of the day too. That was the best one. Yeah,
but we also had the one that took away the
run with the tag at second base by Bliss.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
That's true, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
We are the best in the world challenges.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Here's a good idea for the whole team. Let's use
them to our advantage.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's a great idea, like all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right, Okay, maybe not just waste them early and stupid stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
A really genius plan. Should we write it down?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
This throw it no idea is a bad idea of
just throwing that against a hole.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Seeing if it sticks all right? Do you want to
let you know that?
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
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can play some games afterwards. Just a Tuesday night, honey,
I'm heading off to Talalap Resort Casino to have the
time of my life.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That's a great place to go for the time of
your life. There's a song about it. I think it
is part of t Layalip's whole thing. It's like I've
had the time it is. It is the part oh
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Speaker 1 (30:34):
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we need a little bit of help, and I have
heard that when you need help, you ask for it.
Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM's up is
when you ask us the questions. Up with you is
when we ask you a question and I come to
(30:55):
you with hat in hand. And when I say you,
I mean every member of our listening audience right now,
because I need help and I have been told, I've
been told through from a lot of good people, a
lot of nurturing people, that if you need help, you just.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Ask for it.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I think that's the best way to go about it.
We can't pretend, we can't. We can't sidestep around this one.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You can't. You can't judge me for it because I'm
asking help and I'm appearing needy or maybe weak, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Week definitely definitely weak and vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, And so you know, I guess you could judge
me for it. But I've been told that when you
need help, you just ask for it. So I'm going
to ask for help. So this is our sup with
you question, and we will take we'll take your text
at four nine four five one. We'll take your responses
on our little YouTube channel that I keep forgetting is
here in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh, they're staring at you all daily.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Oh I know. And then of course you could use
our talkback feature as well. And I say this seriously,
even though I'm perfectly open to some unseerious responses, yes,
and we'll get those. But the World Cup is here,
and I am not a soccer fan and I have
never covered the World Cup in my life, and frankly,
(32:08):
I don't know how to. And so I know you
don't want my analysis, even you soccer fans, And yet
I want you. I mean, you don't get the World
Cup to come to your community ever, and so I
want soccer fans and even just the moderate soccer fans
that just love events and love showcasing Seattle. I want
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you guys to have the time of your lives and
I want us to be part of that.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yes, but I don't know how to be right. We
don't want to pretend to be soccer experts.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't, Yeah, I'm not even there's no chance, and
you don't want me to. You don't want me to
bring my analysis to every soccer match. I mean, we'll
have some people. We got Brad Evans on tomorrow, We're
gonna have Anders and Jackson on more than you probably
want us to. So I mean, we're going to provide
some expert analysis for you from other folks. But how
(33:00):
do you want Ashley and I to treat this over
the course of the next month. What do you want
us to cover? Is it like the events, the surround,
just the energy, just the atmosphere, what what do you
want out of it? Yeah, tell us what you want
from us from World Cup coverage. As talk show hosts,
We're not reporters. I'm not gonna go walk a beat. Nope,
(33:21):
I'm not going to report back to you. That's not
what I do. I'm a talk show host. So what
opinions do you want us to kind of share? What
topics and conversations do you want us to get into
over the course of the next month. How do you
want us to cover the World Cup?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, because I would say, like, probably let's talk about
oh wow, that was great, that was exciting, there's the
atmosphere around town, all those kind of things, and not
giving too much to each individual game unless it's just
something that you know is unavoidable. But as far as yeah,
what happened in that game or what that loss or
win means for what group are who and what that's
(34:01):
what other people are for.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Well, I mean I can I can monitor that, I
can monitor the numbers and what needs to happen and
things of that nature. So that's one thing I could
provide certainly here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
is keeping you up to speed on who's playing where
and yes, what those games, what those games mean. So
there's an idea right there that gets it started right there, Jeels,
(34:23):
But I'm gonna leave it for the rest of you.
I mean because some of you are soccer fans out there,
and even though you listen to this radio show and
you know that we're never going to talk soccer and
probably don't want us to talk soccer, you want soccer
talked about if you're going to tune into Sports Talk radio,
because even though you love your football and you love
your baseball and you love your basketball, you also love
yourself some soccer and would like some sort of coverage
(34:46):
provided by the morning show.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, we can't ignore it.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's huge at Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM.
So let us know. I'm asking for help, and I
really mean this. I need help in knowing how to
talk about this event for you over the course of
the next few weeks. So four nine four five one
is the text line. We got the talkback feature available
as well, and then of course we've got YouTube where
(35:11):
we can read your comments off of the YouTube channel
that we're using. So we're gonna get to all that
at nine thirty this morning, because at nine o'clock on
Tuesdays that's Ryan Heay time, and we need all of
that time to interview Ryan Healy about what's going on
with the Mariners and Boyd. We have a lot to discuss,
So he's next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM
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