June 9, 2026 • 34 mins
RYON HEALY (Mariners TV) It’s all about “The Challenge”- thank you ABS System and thank you Jhonny Pereda! How does Healy feel about Dan Wilson’s bullpen usage and all of the rules this team seems to have to abide by? Emerson got into it with Pereda on the mound… We are suddenly down two more infielders… what happens when Brendan Donovan comes back? :30- We asked for your help and YOU delivered! Sup with you? How do you want us to cover the World Cup? :45- We wrap up the show with one last thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, nine o'clock hour, and on Tuesdays that segment
belongs to former Mariner Ryan Healy, who, of course says,
also gracing our lives these days as part of the
Mariners television team as well. And so every Tuesday nine
o'clock we get his thoughts on Mariners baseball and we
(00:31):
dive right in here with Ryan this morning. Good morning, sir,
Good morning. How are we doing today? I'm doing all right.
Actually brings up a good question. Did you ever do
one of those dugouts standoff things? No?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I was normally standing at first base or third base
ready to play ball, and there was always a starting
pitcher that had nothing to do that day that I
live to delay it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's my favorite. Makes your laugh every time.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah. Do the players actually like it or do they
find it as annoying as I do?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's indifferent, okay, I can't say that. Like it motivates me,
but also like the pictures live in a different world.
So if that's what their their goal was for the day,
then you know, go do it. But those players, they don't.
They're done playing with it. It's like an immediate ejection
for both pictures.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
See you later. Oh good, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
That's why they do it. Then they can go hang
out in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Maybe that's the strategy. It's a good point go golf
with the guy you lost to the standoff too. Actually,
just brought it up during the break, and I'm like,
I haven't never asked for Ryan about this. I'm gonna
do it to start our conversation. One other thing before
we dive into a lot of really neaty conversations we
need to have today. Are you doing the home run derby?
They keep promoting it and Ryan Roland Smith's signed up
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to embarrass himself, but you probably would stand a pretty
decent chance. And yet versus each you row, how are
you gonna fare in that scenario?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
If I beat each y Road, then this whole event
is a fail, Like this is each ero's game to
win at this point. I've seen him hit BP, We've
obviously all seen him play as well, and he was
automatic in the five to six hole base hits on command.
But if you ever watched his batting practice, he can
also go automatic home runs pull site, just swing after swing.
So I'm gonna have to really get into shape and
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like prepare for this to really have a shot.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But you are going to do it. Oh yeah, I'm
doing it. Okay, good, all good. Finally might have some competition.
Then we needed some competition for Reachi ro define competition.
Somebody that can hit more than one. Okay, I'll take that. Yeah,
all right, you can do it. All right, Ryan Eally
is with us. We got a lot to discuss, including
(02:39):
last night, and let's begin with you know, the forty
nine ers have the catch, and the Broncos have the drive,
and now we in Seattle have the challenge. I love
the ABS challenge system. I love what it's brought to
the game. But man, Ryan, that's how it's used. Last
night on parade, didn't know if that was a ball
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or strike. That was like, oh maybe fifty to fifty,
and maybe even he didn't feel that confident about it.
And yet the situation dictated this is worth challenging right
now to try to bail Brash out of whatever he's
going through this inning. I thought it was that was
some great drama that we've never had in the history
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of our baseball lives until this season.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It definitely adds a layer of excitement to I don't
want to say a mundane moment because a basis loaded
walk and a tight game is pretty exciting in itself.
But the opportunity to change the result of via bat
after the umpire already determined that it was a ball
was incredible. I haven't seen Parada have as much success
as Garver, like Garver is Unbelievable'll have to play with
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those decisions of when to challenge. But the fact that
Parreeda got that that sweeper up in the zone that
just clipped the top enough to make that strike three.
Talk about just baseball being a game divinch, that was
a great example of it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And a wild night. That's two wild games in a row,
and I suppose doing baseball math, you lost one of
them you shouldn't have lost, and then you pulled out
last nights and I guess you'll take that. After two
wild evenings in the American League to go one and one,
I suppose you feel okay about that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm curious the lenses that you're watching the games through
now and how Mariners are watching the games now after
that eight game winning streak, when we all felt like
we saw the potential of this team, even with missing
Brendan Donovan and Cal Rawley, the opportunity for them to
actually go on that type of run and take care
of business. I'm curious if you're watching through the lenses
of I can see the minor details that are winning
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and losing games, and when you see them, you're.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like, ah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's not because the offense thinks, it's not because the
pitching staffs thinks. It's that one little moment that can
change the course of a whole night in a game.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, Bryan Heay is with us and man, just a
couple of bizarre games. And i gotta get your thoughts
on how Dan's using his bullpen beca because it's been
a huge topic here the last couple of days and
really for a lot of the season. For me. Anyway,
I play right there. I'm armchair manager. I'm playing along.
I promise you I don't do hindsight and that you
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know you give up two runs and you have a
problem with the decision. If I have a problem with
the decision, I had the problem with the what went
what went into the decision, not the result of the decision.
And so I would say I've been having some issues
with Dan's choices with his bullpen and I'm wondering if
you're going through the same thing yourself now that you're
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a big time Mariners analyst.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Can you be more specific? What are your biggest grapes?
I want to be specific with my answer.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I would I'm gonna take one example from yesterday, like
Matt Brash for example. I mean, he's pitched one time
in seven days. You clearly saved him for last night,
and then because you go, you don't give him a
clean inning. You let Chriswell go a second, and he
just pitched the night before. Now Brash is rushing to
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get into the game. He didn't look to me, and
he's not struggled with his command this year. He didn't
look to me like he was ready to pitch last night.
And then the guy that you saved for the night
has to bail out somebody else and you only get
two outs out of him when you are trying to
piece together twelve outs and a ballgame with a bullpen
that obviously you're using it as if it's tired, because
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there are so many guys that you're deeming unavailable to you.
So stuff like that. That's just one example of many.
But I've been having an issue with it, and I'm
just wondering if you've been having any issues with it. No,
it's tough to nap, not as much.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And part of it, I believe, is like there's a
pitcher that's really missing right now in Bargas. Like Vargas
was that bridge guy that had the high leverage stuff
but could bridge some of those emergency situations.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Bizarro's kind of turned into that as well.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think he's always been kind of the seventh inning
guy plus a high leverage spot that shows up earlier
in the game. You know, Farrare, I feel like plugs
into so many different holes in that bullpen when there
are guys that are unavailable, which has been so nice. Uh,
Brash's command hasn't looked really sharp to me any time
that I've seen him pitch since he's come back from
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the eye yell. This command doesn't look automatic. It still
looks like he's searching. I would put him in Munio's
the similar buckets of like the sweeper is really great
and it's nasty, but when it's not in the zone
early in counts to entice the hitters to swing as
they progress, like when they face a really patient line up.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This bullpen. It's tough because they fall behind.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, one oh two, oh two one really quickly,
and then all of a sudden, it's the automatic fastball.
And I don't care if you throw one hundred and
one or if you throw ninety three. A big leaguer
is gonna get on time with it. The here's the
thing though, about great teams in the major leagues. The
best teams in the league don't have the highest innings
pitched of bullpens. Why because the starters are able to
stretch the game into the seventh or sixth inning consistently.
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So I don't think we're sitting here saying we want
the bullpen to throw more innings, because what we want
actually is fans, is we want that bullpen to be
as healthy as humanly possible when it comes to August, September,
and then especially through October, and then that's when it's
all hands on deck.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It's a full sprint, but there is some navigation.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And I'm trying to give the front office and the
coaching staff some credit that they've been through this journey
last year of going really deep in the postseason. They're
learning from their experience of how can we better utilize
the relievers earlier in the season so that they do
feel one hundred percent or close to it when the
games are due.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Orde Now, let's talk about the starting pitching then, because
we've gone to a six man rotation and Ashley and
I were discussing earlier. I thought one of the benefits
of that, you're down a relief pitcher, but you're also
giving your pitchers starting pitchers an extra day rest. And
yet they've not budged on that window. If you're between
eighty five and ninety five pitches at the end of
an inning, we don't send you back out for the
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next Should they push the envelope a little bit there?
Should Emerson Hancock have gone out for a sixth inning
considering the fact that you are acting as if your
bullpen is at the end of its rope, with how
careful you're being with usage.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Right now, I don't have the exact pitch count, but
I thought I saw ninety stretching two. Okay, so ninety
two I thought I saw stretch. A little bit further,
I think I don't think I know that teams have
a formula and they have a system of how they're
going to operate within their starting pitching and if that's
what they are projecting is the best opportunity to keep
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these six guys healthy for the rest of the season,
they're going to continue executing it. But I also believe
that the second half of the season they'll start to
use their eyes a little bit more, use less of
the numbers and the process that they're executing.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It just seems so clear to me that with every
single pitcher there is a plan not just for the
short term. This game is dueber die. This is for
the games that start after the one sixty two finish.
It got so close last year that it just looks
like to me that this team is making decisions based
off of where they want their staff to be in
September and October.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I get it. I get it. What did you think
of Emerson's chewing out of Johnny Pareda on the mound?
I didn't know he had that in him. I really,
he's just such a He's just such a sweet young man,
and yet he knew exactly what he wanted from Pareda
and he let him have it on the mound. I
didn't see that live.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But what my guess is that their relationship's pretty good, okay,
and there's a lot of trust there. So for Emerson
to be able to speak up and speak his mind freely,
I actually respect that. Is he gonna have that same
conversation with cal Rawley? Probably not, But I do understand
the competitor's mindset of things that are said between the
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lines can't be held up in the court of law
when the game is done, because I'm not that sane
human right now. I'm functioning purely from a place of
high emotion and high energy.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
One last thing about pictures and then I'll move on
for you for your benefit andres Munos. I mean, they're
obviously keeping him in that closure role. I would keep
him in that closure role. What would Ryan Healy do?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I was so happy to see him back out the
next day. Everyone knows the free bases to have to stop,
and I would say the game of inches, in the
game of you know, really close, calls that challenge what
that did. Last night, I was watching the bottle of
the ninth inning and I was thinking, man, the fact
that that run didn't score on that double play from
Julio to Bliss and then also does strike three to
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Pete Alonzo two run saving plays. There was a walk
that Muna's had the ninth inning last night, Yeah, but
the tying run was still standing on deck. Whereas if
one of those two run scores, Munos walks, that guy,
now the tying runs standing to play, and they're swinging
away from time to game like, those are the moments.
And I guess is as a fan, if you're feeling
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the anxiety of your closer, who is so good and
has been so great over his career, coming in of
oh my gosh, he's gonna get it done today, you
can imagine that he's probably feeling some of that too.
So now Munyos is battling that internal voice standing in
the pitcher's mount of am I gonna get the job
done today?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Verse?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I need to execute this pitch And it's a constant
push and pull, every single one. And I would like
to see them keep him in that role and allow
him the opportunity to work through this because this experience
of the failure and that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
That mind, that kind of that a man, how do
I say this properly for the air.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
There's a voice in your head that we call a
certain name that isn't kind, But there's a voice in
your head that's like, try convince you of the fact
that you might stink as a player, or that you
can't get the job done. And it's not truthful, but
it can happen. And to see him work through that
day in and day out, and the Mariners continue to
throw him out there to allow him to work through
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that could serve him so so good and this team
so well in the long run.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, I mean the stuff's still there. I mean he
threw of his nastiest sliders he threw all season long
last night. He's throwing just as hard as we need
him to throw. It's just a command thing. So I
don't think he's that far off, and so it's just
a matter of getting him back into rhythm. Ryan Heay
is with Hiss, former Mariner, now part of Mariner's television crew.
So last time we checked, we had a shortstop issue.
(13:20):
Who do we play at shortstop? And now we might
not have either one of them for a little while,
depending on the news we get about cold Emerson's back.
But that was a little shocking to find out that
JP went on the IL, which I wasn't expecting. And
then moments later Cold Emerson's unavailable as well. What was
your reaction in that moment? I was shocked as well.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was I think the game started and I was
actually in the batting cage of work with some hitters,
and I pulled up the game real quick and the
Marriagers down one nothing, and the first thing I saw
was JP Crawford goes into the IL and then Colt
Emerson scratched. I was like, oh no, who's playing short?
Like they had to have made a move and that's
how Ryan Blizz came up. Okay, they have some coverage
at least to play there. And then I saw Cole
Young is playing short. It's like, oh I saw Cole
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play play shortstop in spring training, Like he can be serviceable.
They're no problem. But it just made me think immediately,
like where's Brendan Donovan? And we probably haven't talked about
Brendan Donovan a ton because of how good Colt Emerson
has been. But this is the moment when you're like, man,
where's the middle infield depth that this team and organization has.
And they have the bodies, but unfortunately there's a ton
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of them on the IL right now. But let's just
say this from I understand how different does this team
look without JP Crawford in it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would like to see it, honestly, because I was
gonna ask you about Brendan Donovan. That was gonna be
my next question when he comes back, what's it look like?
I honestly, Ryan would like to see Emerson at short
and Donovan at third. And I know you don't feel
that way.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't, but listen, I understand why you want Emerson
to play shortstop. I completely understand. And the numbers can
validate some things, but also the numbers are so accessible
to fans and media. But what fans and media don't
have is they don't have that eye of seeing how
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productive an infielder outfitter is on a day to day basis.
And I was talking to Perry Hill about this because
I'm My question was about Julio and then some of
the infielders and the numbers and analytics, like how much
do you look at that? He goes it doesn't make
sense to me. He's like, the numbers don't add up
the league wide analytics that they use. There are some
that are that are valid, but they're also very skewed
and just for fans perspective. Teams have started making their
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own analytical formulas to evaluate a defender because they don't
trust the ones that are league wide, so they've started
to find their own ways to evaluate a player's value.
It's and it's it's so fascinating to me, and it's
not something I ever stood of the player. I do
think that there's a problem there's a rotation of JP
cult playing shortstop, But I think JP's bat has been
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so effective. The traffic he creates on the base path
in of those two three four hitters does so much
good for this team. I do think that Brendan Donovan
probably does lead off when he comes back, and you
look at his number like we're missing a like the
Matters are missing an eight to fifty plus ops player
right now the season three hundred bats and that would
be a massive jolt right now. But also credit to
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Colt Emerson. He has anchored down third base defensively, and
then it has stole some runs and some hits from
a lot of really good players.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And wherever he plays, he's gonna be special, all right.
So if I'm rating into this, Ryan heay keeps JP
at short stop. Emerson is your third baseman. So where
would you then put Brendon Donovan. There'll be a rotation
of those.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think Brendan Donovan will give Cole Young a blow
once in a while. I think Brendan Donovan can slot
into And here's the issue. You can't slot actually Brendan
Donovan into one of the out to a positions because
you're not gonna you might give Randy roserena a day,
but also that to you posts every single day, and
you already got a platoon situation going on the right field,
So adding a left handed bat to an already left handed.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Heavy rotation will be tough.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I really think that it's gonna have to be a
consistent rotation between the three infield spots of second, short,
and third, where you see four infielders now playing three
spots and you just kind of move them in a cycle.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's satisfactory. Everybody be satisfied with that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You think, No, it's a lot of people are gonna
completely dislike it. And I don't know if the Mariners
will enjoy it either, and I don't know if the
players will enjoy it either. But it goes back to
the starting surplus conversation that we've had.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Piggyback short stuff. It's a good problem to have.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And I was dying, dying, laughing because I think the
Pirates did a piggyback the week after the Mariners were
going to the sixth me rotation.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I was like, ooh, there's that trigger word. Someone else
is doing it. Maybe they they started doing it. Yeah,
it's it worked, and you look at the performance. It
worked for the Mariners. Hot topic though, my goodness, yeah,
no doubt. Oh and it's still is triggering for a
lot of fans even though it did work. Just the
word itself. I don't like the word anymore. I'm done
with it. It's it's the starter start plus, starter surplus,
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got it all right? Man? Well, I appreciate you. We
thank you. I mean I had like thirteen more questions.
I'm like, how do I ask him one more in
the time we have allowed? But you know what, I
think this is a good time to break it off.
So great to see you. Great breakdown. We appreciate it.
We'll do it again next We see you next week. Yeah. Yeah,
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we had a lot to cover. Yeah yeah, all right.
There he is Ryan Heley, former Mariner, joining us right
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Speaker 4 (18:45):
I mean, if that's not a ringing endorsement, then what
is coming up next?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I really did have like thirteen more questions for Ryan.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I know when I was like when I you know,
I always let him know, like, Hey, these are some
of the things we might talk about.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I was like, there's just too much and he's just
gonna know. I don't need to send him a whole
long list coming.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Up next, though, we are going to do sup with
you because we've asked you to help us. How do
you want us on this show particularly? I don't want
to speak for anybody else at KJAR any of the
other shows, but for this show particularly, I really do
want to know. How do you want us to cover
the World Cup for you? Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. Help us help you enjoy World Cup coverage
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here on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings. Because I
frankly don't know what to do. I really don't. I
know you don't want analysis from me. You shouldn't want
analysis from me, and I don't want to give it
to you.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
No, I don't think anyone wants analysis from us. So
we've got that going for us. That's good news.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm not equipped for that. So how do you want
us to cover the World Cup for you? So you
at least get some of it in the mornings, and
maybe you don't want it at all, So whatever, whatever
your thoughts are, sup with you? Four nine four or
five to one, talkback YouTube a lot of ways to
communicate with us.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
What do we got from the two o six up?
Just remember the US underperforms. If the US underperforms at
stan Wilson fault, just keep hammering on that, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So is that am I taking that as you're Is
that a criticism of me? No?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I think it's okay. Just focus on the Mariners more.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think. Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
We've also got this one that's along those lines from
the fourty five. I'd much rather you be willing to
call out Munos for being awful this year. I'll get
my soccer news from ESPN.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh man, he's been here.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Not awful.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, but he hadn't been awful. Yeah, so I just
don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I agree with that the two five three.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Let's talk about gambling on soccer and try to win
some money. Make it about who's covering spreads and player
props that are on a hot streak.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Let's win some money.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh okay, so more of a gambling I don't even
I don't know one person who gambles on soccer. Yeah
I don't. I don't either, until that you read that,
I didn't even consider that. And that's silly on my
part because obviously, I mean, Brendan Soresby's gonna bet. Yeah,
I know that. Sure, you know he's all in on
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Trinidad and Tobago. I'm sure he was probably betting on
the friendlies, probably probably probably taking Texas Tech minus the
half goal. Uh so, yeah, that's an interesting angle. I
don't do you know any soccer gambling experts?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I don't, but I'm sure we could find one.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I wonder if Jackson Feltz or Andrews, because that absolutely
we should be doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Fun, all right, I'm gonna write I'm gonna actually write
that down. So the gambling angle, and I've already written
down like schedule wise, like updating you on pivotal games
even if I don't provide analysis, which I won't, updating
you on pivotal games and what they might mean to
the big picture. Okay, so that's what we're that's what
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we're gonna do with. We've got two things so far. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Four two five says zero soccer coverage is great, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Okay, yeap, okay, even though it's the World Cup.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Even though it's the World Cup, that's what they're saying.
Let's see if two five three says your team vibe,
tell us about the festivities and local vibe, and that
kind of coincides with from the four two five. All
I want to hear about this World Cup is traffic
updates and where I need to avoid.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So people want to know locally, like how it's affecting them.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
See. I was just having this conversation with Ashley off
the air, and I'm a I'm kind of a pullback
the cover kind of hosts. Bosses usually hate that, but
I was saying, I think it's more of a topic
for our friends down the hallway. It's bender and lifestyle stuff. Yeah,
it's Bender and Jodie and Jewbile. I think that they
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are probably going to talk about it more than what
we're going to talk about it at KGAAR, not that
we're not aware of it, but the but providing analysis.
I mean, we've got two young up and comers in
the soccer analysis world. That pretty much it. I mean,
I don't trust anybody else's. I don't trust softies analysis
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of soccer.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Not on the station. But that's why we're bringing in
Brad Evans.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, Brad Evans. Yeah, we're gonna have guests, for sure,
that's a given. We're gonna have guests to talk about
the US team and the entire tournament at large. But
I think it is more of a it's taking over Seattle,
and that's more of a like a lifestyle conversation than
it really is a sports talk radio subject. But I
might be wrong. Please correct me. That's why we're doing
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this exercise. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, we've got more votes for soccer gambling segments, so
there we go.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, I'm gonna put a star by it now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
The two O six says, just embrace it. Especially when
the US plays Australia here in Seattle. Go to a
local soccer watering hole and dive on in, then come
back the next day and report on it. So that's
still more of the lifestyle, more of how you know
things are around town.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, soaking it all up.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I tell you what. Kangaroo and Kiwi? Is that still
around there in Ballard? I don't hang I used to
live in Ballard, don't hang around there too much, but
that was a great place to watch rugby. I'd go
there for rugby games, and so I would imagine that's
still hopping to this day. I know who would know.
Jackson will ask him about that on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, Marcus says, love the World Cup, but not a
big soccer fan.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Bar talk for the group we're in. No analysis, just
bar talk.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
This bar talk. Yeah, okay, what is that though?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I think just like, oh, you know, just the big
highlights whatever, what people are talking about on social media.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh do you miss that? Did you see that? Yeah
that was awesome. Oh they flopped blah blah blahlahlah.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So if another Frenchman headbuts somebody in the middle of
the chest, we should talk about that. Then that becomes
a topic and we go chuse it Dawn, thank you
for knowing what I was referring. You're welcome, yeah, but
not if somebody fakes an injury in the Cameroon.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Game, right, That's definitely not because.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
There will be thirteen of those in the first half.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
The two six says, please no soccer. Okay, that's the
easiest way for me. That's just cutting right to the chase.
But honestly, I do want to provide flavor for here
on the show. I mean, we're a part of this world, right,
We're a part of this community, and it is a
it's the biggest sporting event.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's the biggest sporting event that there is. Is a
really big damn deal, and yet I'm just ill equipped
to cover it the way that I would normally cover
a major sporting Right.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
We don't want to be pretenders. I don't want to
just sit here faking things so that we because we're
supposed to. We've got from the two six. It's not
too many times that a US team is considered an
underdog in a sport.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
In soccer, it is.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Imagine if we go on a run, it would be
like the miracle on ice, but on the pitch you
would want to be a part of that, wouldn't you.
So that's like the talk though, the buzz, that's the
stuff that you talk about. Yeah, Team USA, how they
did things like that, any crazy stories. If there's a
Cinderella team that just goes crazy, I guess US would
be the Cinderella team.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I think we were already planning on doing that.
When we're having Brad Evans on tomorrow and most, a
lot of art, not most, but a lot of the
conversation's going to be about Team USA and whether they're
ready for that. So that seems to be a given.
We're gonna have anders On and Jackson, we'll certainly. Yeah,
I think every time we crack the mics, the US
team's going to be mentioned. Crack the mics about the
World Cup, that is, Yeah, the US team's going to
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be woven in there somewhat. So probably should have been
said before we even asked for text, But I'm glad
that you did mention that, because certainly that's an angle
we'll cover.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yes, we got this one from the three six to
oh soccer scores and maybe US highlights. That's enough, Ashley,
what's five iron's handicap? Well, he'd be mad if I
told you it's a two.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
What do you mean? Why would he be mad about that?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Pretty high for him right now?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh oh, I thought, isn't that good?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It is good, it's just a he's been better, so
he'd say he's not playing very well, right, all right,
But there we go.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think I think it's about it too.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I think it's true handicap is his sensitivity to his handy.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't know if he'd really be mad. I just
I'm like, oh, I don't know. I think it's a two.
He's gonna be like, no, don't talk about it. Yeah,
and it's real.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, scores certainly will be handled in what's on tap
and the headlines for sure. So yes, we got that covered.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And from the four two five step Chuck and' ash.
What's up with Bucky? Is he really on medical leave
or is he just getting ready for the home run derby?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
We honestly don't know. Now, there is this law that
we aren't really allowed to even contact.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Him, right because of because of the leave.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, because he's on medical leave, and so the company
can't look like we're putting any pressure on him at
all to come back, right, So if you give him
a phone, even if it's encouragement, Hey can't wait to
get you back, or hey, how's it, then that can.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Bets assuring him one way or another.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That could be seen as he's feeling pressure to come back.
And so there's really we don't know, And I think
there's a very good chance he's just taking the time
off to watch the World Cup and get ready for
the home run derby.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I mean that's what you're asked, way to use a
good way to put your time to good use.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Though the answer is yes, yes, What was the question again?
Just yes?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The question was is he really on medical leave or
is he taking the time to train for the home
run derby?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
No? And yes?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Okay, there you go. Two f three, This is the
last one. Don't cover soccer at all. I don't care
about Bosnia her girtsmeanor I'd rather cover water polo. Just
keep doing what you do her GIRs demeanor.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I like it sounds like a really sweet wine. Yeah
it does, made in the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, girz demeanor.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
There you go. All right, Well wait.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Last one?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Sorry?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Four?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Five?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Sup?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
What do you mean The World Cup starts this week?
Check kept telling me it starts in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Thank you, good one.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I believe right now it's two officially two weeks away.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, right now, right from today, m.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Mark, there you go, yeah, two weeks away. All right,
One last thing next, thank you. Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM. All right, final segment. One last thing
from Ashley and myself, Ashley, what do you got?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
So you know, we talk about how it doesn't take
a lot for at professional athletes to make a big impact,
especially on kids and the public. I mean, we saw
cal I guess he stayed around Everett and signed a
lot of autographs or during his stay up there, which
was great because it was a sold out game, a
lot of people up there to watch. Paul Skenes did
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something similar but actually even just a little bit cooler.
He was driving by a little league field yesterday, I guess,
and decided to stop and then played catch with all
the kids. Oh great, and then hung out for over
two hours signing autographs and playing with these kids that
he just happened to drive by, which means he was
going somewhere, right, He was probably going home. He was
probably gonna go relax on his own, and he thought no,
(29:56):
I got to go do this instead goes a long way,
goes a long way. And I just thought, wow, that
is really awesome that you would take not even I
mean even if he's gone for fifteen minutes and said hi,
that would have been awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Have you seen that video Salvador Perez where there was
a they were playing woofle ball in their backyard. You
know the whole setup, hyeah, you try to figure out
your field and where's the home run fit. I mean
that just that old school set up that a lot
of us have done, playing woffle ball in the backyard.
And he saw them playing and he not only got
out to say hi, he played with them.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He was running bases, so do pres doesn't even like
running bases.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Right away, he doesn't do that at work.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
But yeah, skiing, same thing. So he went and played catch.
I mean that guy plays catch for a living. Yeah,
and was like it's like, yeah, I could do that,
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Of course the bases were shorter for Salvador.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well that's true. Maybe it was more like a jump anyway.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's just it's nice to see these guys that take that,
that know the platform that they have and what just
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Can what impact that can make?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So does it take a low It does not, No, doesn't.
And nobody's telling you to like run some big giant
charity event. Just if you've got two minutes. Yeah, say
hi to your fans, that's it, especially kids. Oh yeah,
and let them know that.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Those kids are never going to forget that. They're never
going to forget Paul Skeins and he's now probably gonna
be their favorite player for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Paul's got nothing else going for him though, that's true.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, his life is in shambles.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I'm going to close with this. I mean, I know
we talked a lot of baseball today and so I
probably should go in NBA Finals. We haven't talked about
that since Headlines at seven.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
But.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Because we've been talking so much about relief pitching, I
just want to point out that even though I'm having
trouble with this here, I have Ryan Healey, former major leaguer,
and it's not And I liked his response to it
because it's definitely not standing out to him that Dan
is struggling with his bullpen decisions. So you know, I
(31:57):
know it is for a lot of people that are
listening right now.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It certainly is for me, But here's a major leader saying, no,
I don't see anything that I think is wrong. You know,
certainly there's some question. Everybody's got their opinion on how
it should be handled. But he says he doesn't see
anything that's wrong. That said, since you can't do it
the way I want you to do it, Dan, I'm
gonna tell you in advance, let's see it all right,
(32:21):
So logan Gilbert tonight, we're gonna try to get six
out of him, and then we should have who the
Zardo for the seventh or Spire depending on Henderson, Alonzo
and Cowser. Those are the three guys I want him
facing tonight. And then for Rare is going to be
our closer tonight as Munos, Criswell, and Brash, I'm assuming
are getting days off because Brass can only pitch once
(32:43):
a week and Munos can't pitch three straight days, that's
for sure. He Yeah, he usually came pitch two, and
I would imagine Criswell can't pitch three straight days either,
So that's how it works. And then if Gilbert can
only go five, hopefully he doesn't hoppies your six.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Okay, so you're not putting all the pressure.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
At the end of the game, all right, and then
you go if it's a if it's Henderson, Alonso and
Cowser coming up, spire. Otherwise we say spire for when
they come up, and then we close it out with Ferrara.
So there he go. Does just do that?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, let's see if he's listening.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And I won't complain tomorrow. Pretty easy. Pretty easy, by
the way, they're throwing a left hander tonight. And Trevor Rodgers,
he's been what an odd career. He was great when
he came up with the Marlins, and then he became terrible,
and then they got rid of him for a song,
and then all of a sudden in Baltimore he became great,
and now this year's terrible again. He got like an
(33:39):
era around seven. Of course, he is left handed, so
it doesn't really matter if he's terrible and he faces
the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, that'll do it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So, yes, it'll be Gilbert versus the odd ball tonight
at three thirty five. We'll talk about it tomorrow at
five o'clock. Excuse me, six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And I'm not going to be here at five, so
good luck.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
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All right, nine o'clock hour, and on Tuesdays that segment
belongs to former Mariner Ryan Healy, who, of course says,
also gracing our lives these days as part of the
Mariners television team as well. And so every Tuesday nine
o'clock we get his thoughts on Mariners baseball and we
(00:31):
dive right in here with Ryan this morning. Good morning, sir,
Good morning. How are we doing today? I'm doing all right.
Actually brings up a good question. Did you ever do
one of those dugouts standoff things? No?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I was normally standing at first base or third base
ready to play ball, and there was always a starting
pitcher that had nothing to do that day that I
live to delay it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's my favorite. Makes your laugh every time.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah. Do the players actually like it or do they
find it as annoying as I do?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's indifferent, okay, I can't say that. Like it motivates me,
but also like the pictures live in a different world.
So if that's what their their goal was for the day,
then you know, go do it. But those players, they don't.
They're done playing with it. It's like an immediate ejection
for both pictures.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
See you later. Oh good, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
That's why they do it. Then they can go hang
out in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Maybe that's the strategy. It's a good point go golf
with the guy you lost to the standoff too. Actually,
just brought it up during the break, and I'm like,
I haven't never asked for Ryan about this. I'm gonna
do it to start our conversation. One other thing before
we dive into a lot of really neaty conversations we
need to have today. Are you doing the home run derby?
They keep promoting it and Ryan Roland Smith's signed up
(01:44):
to embarrass himself, but you probably would stand a pretty
decent chance. And yet versus each you row, how are
you gonna fare in that scenario?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
If I beat each y Road, then this whole event
is a fail, Like this is each ero's game to
win at this point. I've seen him hit BP, We've
obviously all seen him play as well, and he was
automatic in the five to six hole base hits on command.
But if you ever watched his batting practice, he can
also go automatic home runs pull site, just swing after swing.
So I'm gonna have to really get into shape and
(02:17):
like prepare for this to really have a shot.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But you are going to do it. Oh yeah, I'm
doing it. Okay, good, all good. Finally might have some competition.
Then we needed some competition for Reachi ro define competition.
Somebody that can hit more than one. Okay, I'll take that. Yeah,
all right, you can do it. All right, Ryan Eally
is with us. We got a lot to discuss, including
(02:39):
last night, and let's begin with you know, the forty
nine ers have the catch, and the Broncos have the drive,
and now we in Seattle have the challenge. I love
the ABS challenge system. I love what it's brought to
the game. But man, Ryan, that's how it's used. Last
night on parade, didn't know if that was a ball
(03:01):
or strike. That was like, oh maybe fifty to fifty,
and maybe even he didn't feel that confident about it.
And yet the situation dictated this is worth challenging right
now to try to bail Brash out of whatever he's
going through this inning. I thought it was that was
some great drama that we've never had in the history
(03:23):
of our baseball lives until this season.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It definitely adds a layer of excitement to I don't
want to say a mundane moment because a basis loaded
walk and a tight game is pretty exciting in itself.
But the opportunity to change the result of via bat
after the umpire already determined that it was a ball
was incredible. I haven't seen Parada have as much success
as Garver, like Garver is Unbelievable'll have to play with
(03:47):
those decisions of when to challenge. But the fact that
Parreeda got that that sweeper up in the zone that
just clipped the top enough to make that strike three.
Talk about just baseball being a game divinch, that was
a great example of it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And a wild night. That's two wild games in a row,
and I suppose doing baseball math, you lost one of
them you shouldn't have lost, and then you pulled out
last nights and I guess you'll take that. After two
wild evenings in the American League to go one and one,
I suppose you feel okay about that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm curious the lenses that you're watching the games through
now and how Mariners are watching the games now after
that eight game winning streak, when we all felt like
we saw the potential of this team, even with missing
Brendan Donovan and Cal Rawley, the opportunity for them to
actually go on that type of run and take care
of business. I'm curious if you're watching through the lenses
of I can see the minor details that are winning
(04:42):
and losing games, and when you see them, you're.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like, ah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's not because the offense thinks, it's not because the
pitching staffs thinks. It's that one little moment that can
change the course of a whole night in a game.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, Bryan Heay is with us and man, just a
couple of bizarre games. And i gotta get your thoughts
on how Dan's using his bullpen beca because it's been
a huge topic here the last couple of days and
really for a lot of the season. For me. Anyway,
I play right there. I'm armchair manager. I'm playing along.
I promise you I don't do hindsight and that you
(05:13):
know you give up two runs and you have a
problem with the decision. If I have a problem with
the decision, I had the problem with the what went
what went into the decision, not the result of the decision.
And so I would say I've been having some issues
with Dan's choices with his bullpen and I'm wondering if
you're going through the same thing yourself now that you're
(05:36):
a big time Mariners analyst.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Can you be more specific? What are your biggest grapes?
I want to be specific with my answer.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I would I'm gonna take one example from yesterday, like
Matt Brash for example. I mean, he's pitched one time
in seven days. You clearly saved him for last night,
and then because you go, you don't give him a
clean inning. You let Chriswell go a second, and he
just pitched the night before. Now Brash is rushing to
(06:05):
get into the game. He didn't look to me, and
he's not struggled with his command this year. He didn't
look to me like he was ready to pitch last night.
And then the guy that you saved for the night
has to bail out somebody else and you only get
two outs out of him when you are trying to
piece together twelve outs and a ballgame with a bullpen
that obviously you're using it as if it's tired, because
(06:28):
there are so many guys that you're deeming unavailable to you.
So stuff like that. That's just one example of many.
But I've been having an issue with it, and I'm
just wondering if you've been having any issues with it. No,
it's tough to nap, not as much.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And part of it, I believe, is like there's a
pitcher that's really missing right now in Bargas. Like Vargas
was that bridge guy that had the high leverage stuff
but could bridge some of those emergency situations.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Bizarro's kind of turned into that as well.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think he's always been kind of the seventh inning
guy plus a high leverage spot that shows up earlier
in the game. You know, Farrare, I feel like plugs
into so many different holes in that bullpen when there
are guys that are unavailable, which has been so nice. Uh,
Brash's command hasn't looked really sharp to me any time
that I've seen him pitch since he's come back from
(07:18):
the eye yell. This command doesn't look automatic. It still
looks like he's searching. I would put him in Munio's
the similar buckets of like the sweeper is really great
and it's nasty, but when it's not in the zone
early in counts to entice the hitters to swing as
they progress, like when they face a really patient line up.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This bullpen. It's tough because they fall behind.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, one oh two, oh two one really quickly,
and then all of a sudden, it's the automatic fastball.
And I don't care if you throw one hundred and
one or if you throw ninety three. A big leaguer
is gonna get on time with it. The here's the
thing though, about great teams in the major leagues. The
best teams in the league don't have the highest innings
pitched of bullpens. Why because the starters are able to
stretch the game into the seventh or sixth inning consistently.
(08:01):
So I don't think we're sitting here saying we want
the bullpen to throw more innings, because what we want
actually is fans, is we want that bullpen to be
as healthy as humanly possible when it comes to August, September,
and then especially through October, and then that's when it's
all hands on deck.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It's a full sprint, but there is some navigation.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And I'm trying to give the front office and the
coaching staff some credit that they've been through this journey
last year of going really deep in the postseason. They're
learning from their experience of how can we better utilize
the relievers earlier in the season so that they do
feel one hundred percent or close to it when the
games are due.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Orde Now, let's talk about the starting pitching then, because
we've gone to a six man rotation and Ashley and
I were discussing earlier. I thought one of the benefits
of that, you're down a relief pitcher, but you're also
giving your pitchers starting pitchers an extra day rest. And
yet they've not budged on that window. If you're between
eighty five and ninety five pitches at the end of
an inning, we don't send you back out for the
(08:59):
next Should they push the envelope a little bit there?
Should Emerson Hancock have gone out for a sixth inning
considering the fact that you are acting as if your
bullpen is at the end of its rope, with how
careful you're being with usage.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Right now, I don't have the exact pitch count, but
I thought I saw ninety stretching two. Okay, so ninety
two I thought I saw stretch. A little bit further,
I think I don't think I know that teams have
a formula and they have a system of how they're
going to operate within their starting pitching and if that's
what they are projecting is the best opportunity to keep
(09:35):
these six guys healthy for the rest of the season,
they're going to continue executing it. But I also believe
that the second half of the season they'll start to
use their eyes a little bit more, use less of
the numbers and the process that they're executing.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It just seems so clear to me that with every
single pitcher there is a plan not just for the
short term. This game is dueber die. This is for
the games that start after the one sixty two finish.
It got so close last year that it just looks
like to me that this team is making decisions based
off of where they want their staff to be in
September and October.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I get it. I get it. What did you think
of Emerson's chewing out of Johnny Pareda on the mound?
I didn't know he had that in him. I really,
he's just such a He's just such a sweet young man,
and yet he knew exactly what he wanted from Pareda
and he let him have it on the mound. I
didn't see that live.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But what my guess is that their relationship's pretty good, okay,
and there's a lot of trust there. So for Emerson
to be able to speak up and speak his mind freely,
I actually respect that. Is he gonna have that same
conversation with cal Rawley? Probably not, But I do understand
the competitor's mindset of things that are said between the
(10:50):
lines can't be held up in the court of law
when the game is done, because I'm not that sane
human right now. I'm functioning purely from a place of
high emotion and high energy.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
One last thing about pictures and then I'll move on
for you for your benefit andres Munos. I mean, they're
obviously keeping him in that closure role. I would keep
him in that closure role. What would Ryan Healy do?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I was so happy to see him back out the
next day. Everyone knows the free bases to have to stop,
and I would say the game of inches, in the
game of you know, really close, calls that challenge what
that did. Last night, I was watching the bottle of
the ninth inning and I was thinking, man, the fact
that that run didn't score on that double play from
Julio to Bliss and then also does strike three to
(11:38):
Pete Alonzo two run saving plays. There was a walk
that Muna's had the ninth inning last night, Yeah, but
the tying run was still standing on deck. Whereas if
one of those two run scores, Munos walks, that guy,
now the tying runs standing to play, and they're swinging
away from time to game like, those are the moments.
And I guess is as a fan, if you're feeling
(11:58):
the anxiety of your closer, who is so good and
has been so great over his career, coming in of
oh my gosh, he's gonna get it done today, you
can imagine that he's probably feeling some of that too.
So now Munyos is battling that internal voice standing in
the pitcher's mount of am I gonna get the job
done today?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Verse?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I need to execute this pitch And it's a constant
push and pull, every single one. And I would like
to see them keep him in that role and allow
him the opportunity to work through this because this experience
of the failure and that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
That mind, that kind of that a man, how do
I say this properly for the air.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
There's a voice in your head that we call a
certain name that isn't kind, But there's a voice in
your head that's like, try convince you of the fact
that you might stink as a player, or that you
can't get the job done. And it's not truthful, but
it can happen. And to see him work through that
day in and day out, and the Mariners continue to
throw him out there to allow him to work through
(12:52):
that could serve him so so good and this team
so well in the long run.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, I mean the stuff's still there. I mean he
threw of his nastiest sliders he threw all season long
last night. He's throwing just as hard as we need
him to throw. It's just a command thing. So I
don't think he's that far off, and so it's just
a matter of getting him back into rhythm. Ryan Heay
is with Hiss, former Mariner, now part of Mariner's television crew.
So last time we checked, we had a shortstop issue.
(13:20):
Who do we play at shortstop? And now we might
not have either one of them for a little while,
depending on the news we get about cold Emerson's back.
But that was a little shocking to find out that
JP went on the IL, which I wasn't expecting. And
then moments later Cold Emerson's unavailable as well. What was
your reaction in that moment? I was shocked as well.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was I think the game started and I was
actually in the batting cage of work with some hitters,
and I pulled up the game real quick and the
Marriagers down one nothing, and the first thing I saw
was JP Crawford goes into the IL and then Colt
Emerson scratched. I was like, oh no, who's playing short?
Like they had to have made a move and that's
how Ryan Blizz came up. Okay, they have some coverage
at least to play there. And then I saw Cole
Young is playing short. It's like, oh I saw Cole
(14:01):
play play shortstop in spring training, Like he can be serviceable.
They're no problem. But it just made me think immediately,
like where's Brendan Donovan? And we probably haven't talked about
Brendan Donovan a ton because of how good Colt Emerson
has been. But this is the moment when you're like, man,
where's the middle infield depth that this team and organization has.
And they have the bodies, but unfortunately there's a ton
(14:23):
of them on the IL right now. But let's just
say this from I understand how different does this team
look without JP Crawford in it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would like to see it, honestly, because I was
gonna ask you about Brendan Donovan. That was gonna be
my next question when he comes back, what's it look like?
I honestly, Ryan would like to see Emerson at short
and Donovan at third. And I know you don't feel
that way.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't, but listen, I understand why you want Emerson
to play shortstop. I completely understand. And the numbers can
validate some things, but also the numbers are so accessible
to fans and media. But what fans and media don't
have is they don't have that eye of seeing how
(15:09):
productive an infielder outfitter is on a day to day basis.
And I was talking to Perry Hill about this because
I'm My question was about Julio and then some of
the infielders and the numbers and analytics, like how much
do you look at that? He goes it doesn't make
sense to me. He's like, the numbers don't add up
the league wide analytics that they use. There are some
that are that are valid, but they're also very skewed
and just for fans perspective. Teams have started making their
(15:33):
own analytical formulas to evaluate a defender because they don't
trust the ones that are league wide, so they've started
to find their own ways to evaluate a player's value.
It's and it's it's so fascinating to me, and it's
not something I ever stood of the player. I do
think that there's a problem there's a rotation of JP
cult playing shortstop, But I think JP's bat has been
(15:57):
so effective. The traffic he creates on the base path
in of those two three four hitters does so much
good for this team. I do think that Brendan Donovan
probably does lead off when he comes back, and you
look at his number like we're missing a like the
Matters are missing an eight to fifty plus ops player
right now the season three hundred bats and that would
be a massive jolt right now. But also credit to
(16:17):
Colt Emerson. He has anchored down third base defensively, and
then it has stole some runs and some hits from
a lot of really good players.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And wherever he plays, he's gonna be special, all right.
So if I'm rating into this, Ryan heay keeps JP
at short stop. Emerson is your third baseman. So where
would you then put Brendon Donovan. There'll be a rotation
of those.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think Brendan Donovan will give Cole Young a blow
once in a while. I think Brendan Donovan can slot
into And here's the issue. You can't slot actually Brendan
Donovan into one of the out to a positions because
you're not gonna you might give Randy roserena a day,
but also that to you posts every single day, and
you already got a platoon situation going on the right field,
So adding a left handed bat to an already left handed.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Heavy rotation will be tough.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I really think that it's gonna have to be a
consistent rotation between the three infield spots of second, short,
and third, where you see four infielders now playing three
spots and you just kind of move them in a cycle.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's satisfactory. Everybody be satisfied with that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You think, No, it's a lot of people are gonna
completely dislike it. And I don't know if the Mariners
will enjoy it either, and I don't know if the
players will enjoy it either. But it goes back to
the starting surplus conversation that we've had.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Piggyback short stuff. It's a good problem to have.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And I was dying, dying, laughing because I think the
Pirates did a piggyback the week after the Mariners were
going to the sixth me rotation.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I was like, ooh, there's that trigger word. Someone else
is doing it. Maybe they they started doing it. Yeah,
it's it worked, and you look at the performance. It
worked for the Mariners. Hot topic though, my goodness, yeah,
no doubt. Oh and it's still is triggering for a
lot of fans even though it did work. Just the
word itself. I don't like the word anymore. I'm done
with it. It's it's the starter start plus, starter surplus,
(18:02):
got it all right? Man? Well, I appreciate you. We
thank you. I mean I had like thirteen more questions.
I'm like, how do I ask him one more in
the time we have allowed? But you know what, I
think this is a good time to break it off.
So great to see you. Great breakdown. We appreciate it.
We'll do it again next We see you next week. Yeah. Yeah,
(18:22):
we had a lot to cover. Yeah yeah, all right.
There he is Ryan Heley, former Mariner, joining us right
here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning, A segment
brought to you by Dino's Pub in Renton. Yes, a
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Speaker 4 (18:45):
I mean, if that's not a ringing endorsement, then what
is coming up next?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I really did have like thirteen more questions for Ryan.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I know when I was like when I you know,
I always let him know, like, Hey, these are some
of the things we might talk about.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I was like, there's just too much and he's just
gonna know. I don't need to send him a whole
long list coming.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Up next, though, we are going to do sup with
you because we've asked you to help us. How do
you want us on this show particularly? I don't want
to speak for anybody else at KJAR any of the
other shows, but for this show particularly, I really do
want to know. How do you want us to cover
the World Cup for you? Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. Help us help you enjoy World Cup coverage
(19:24):
here on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings. Because I
frankly don't know what to do. I really don't. I
know you don't want analysis from me. You shouldn't want
analysis from me, and I don't want to give it
to you.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
No, I don't think anyone wants analysis from us. So
we've got that going for us. That's good news.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm not equipped for that. So how do you want
us to cover the World Cup for you? So you
at least get some of it in the mornings, and
maybe you don't want it at all, So whatever, whatever
your thoughts are, sup with you? Four nine four or
five to one, talkback YouTube a lot of ways to
communicate with us.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
What do we got from the two o six up?
Just remember the US underperforms. If the US underperforms at
stan Wilson fault, just keep hammering on that, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So is that am I taking that as you're Is
that a criticism of me? No?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I think it's okay. Just focus on the Mariners more.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think. Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
We've also got this one that's along those lines from
the fourty five. I'd much rather you be willing to
call out Munos for being awful this year. I'll get
my soccer news from ESPN.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh man, he's been here.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Not awful.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, but he hadn't been awful. Yeah, so I just
don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I agree with that the two five three.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Let's talk about gambling on soccer and try to win
some money. Make it about who's covering spreads and player
props that are on a hot streak.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Let's win some money.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh okay, so more of a gambling I don't even
I don't know one person who gambles on soccer. Yeah
I don't. I don't either, until that you read that,
I didn't even consider that. And that's silly on my
part because obviously, I mean, Brendan Soresby's gonna bet. Yeah,
I know that. Sure, you know he's all in on
(21:00):
Trinidad and Tobago. I'm sure he was probably betting on
the friendlies, probably probably probably taking Texas Tech minus the
half goal. Uh so, yeah, that's an interesting angle. I
don't do you know any soccer gambling experts?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I don't, but I'm sure we could find one.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I wonder if Jackson Feltz or Andrews, because that absolutely
we should be doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Fun, all right, I'm gonna write I'm gonna actually write
that down. So the gambling angle, and I've already written
down like schedule wise, like updating you on pivotal games
even if I don't provide analysis, which I won't, updating
you on pivotal games and what they might mean to
the big picture. Okay, so that's what we're that's what
(21:45):
we're gonna do with. We've got two things so far. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Four two five says zero soccer coverage is great, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Okay, yeap, okay, even though it's the World Cup.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Even though it's the World Cup, that's what they're saying.
Let's see if two five three says your team vibe,
tell us about the festivities and local vibe, and that
kind of coincides with from the four two five. All
I want to hear about this World Cup is traffic
updates and where I need to avoid.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So people want to know locally, like how it's affecting them.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
See. I was just having this conversation with Ashley off
the air, and I'm a I'm kind of a pullback
the cover kind of hosts. Bosses usually hate that, but
I was saying, I think it's more of a topic
for our friends down the hallway. It's bender and lifestyle stuff. Yeah,
it's Bender and Jodie and Jewbile. I think that they
(22:34):
are probably going to talk about it more than what
we're going to talk about it at KGAAR, not that
we're not aware of it, but the but providing analysis.
I mean, we've got two young up and comers in
the soccer analysis world. That pretty much it. I mean,
I don't trust anybody else's. I don't trust softies analysis
(22:55):
of soccer.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Not on the station. But that's why we're bringing in
Brad Evans.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, Brad Evans. Yeah, we're gonna have guests, for sure,
that's a given. We're gonna have guests to talk about
the US team and the entire tournament at large. But
I think it is more of a it's taking over Seattle,
and that's more of a like a lifestyle conversation than
it really is a sports talk radio subject. But I
might be wrong. Please correct me. That's why we're doing
(23:20):
this exercise. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, we've got more votes for soccer gambling segments, so
there we go.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, I'm gonna put a star by it now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
The two O six says, just embrace it. Especially when
the US plays Australia here in Seattle. Go to a
local soccer watering hole and dive on in, then come
back the next day and report on it. So that's
still more of the lifestyle, more of how you know
things are around town.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, soaking it all up.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I tell you what. Kangaroo and Kiwi? Is that still
around there in Ballard? I don't hang I used to
live in Ballard, don't hang around there too much, but
that was a great place to watch rugby. I'd go
there for rugby games, and so I would imagine that's
still hopping to this day. I know who would know.
Jackson will ask him about that on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, Marcus says, love the World Cup, but not a
big soccer fan.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Bar talk for the group we're in. No analysis, just
bar talk.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
This bar talk. Yeah, okay, what is that though?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I think just like, oh, you know, just the big
highlights whatever, what people are talking about on social media.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh do you miss that? Did you see that? Yeah
that was awesome. Oh they flopped blah blah blahlahlah.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So if another Frenchman headbuts somebody in the middle of
the chest, we should talk about that. Then that becomes
a topic and we go chuse it Dawn, thank you
for knowing what I was referring. You're welcome, yeah, but
not if somebody fakes an injury in the Cameroon.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Game, right, That's definitely not because.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
There will be thirteen of those in the first half.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
The two six says, please no soccer. Okay, that's the
easiest way for me. That's just cutting right to the chase.
But honestly, I do want to provide flavor for here
on the show. I mean, we're a part of this world, right,
We're a part of this community, and it is a
it's the biggest sporting event.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's the biggest sporting event that there is. Is a
really big damn deal, and yet I'm just ill equipped
to cover it the way that I would normally cover
a major sporting Right.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
We don't want to be pretenders. I don't want to
just sit here faking things so that we because we're
supposed to. We've got from the two six. It's not
too many times that a US team is considered an
underdog in a sport.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
In soccer, it is.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Imagine if we go on a run, it would be
like the miracle on ice, but on the pitch you
would want to be a part of that, wouldn't you.
So that's like the talk though, the buzz, that's the
stuff that you talk about. Yeah, Team USA, how they
did things like that, any crazy stories. If there's a
Cinderella team that just goes crazy, I guess US would
be the Cinderella team.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I think we were already planning on doing that.
When we're having Brad Evans on tomorrow and most, a
lot of art, not most, but a lot of the
conversation's going to be about Team USA and whether they're
ready for that. So that seems to be a given.
We're gonna have anders On and Jackson, we'll certainly. Yeah,
I think every time we crack the mics, the US
team's going to be mentioned. Crack the mics about the
World Cup, that is, Yeah, the US team's going to
(26:11):
be woven in there somewhat. So probably should have been
said before we even asked for text, But I'm glad
that you did mention that, because certainly that's an angle
we'll cover.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yes, we got this one from the three six to
oh soccer scores and maybe US highlights. That's enough, Ashley,
what's five iron's handicap? Well, he'd be mad if I
told you it's a two.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
What do you mean? Why would he be mad about that?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Pretty high for him right now?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh oh, I thought, isn't that good?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It is good, it's just a he's been better, so
he'd say he's not playing very well, right, all right,
But there we go.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think I think it's about it too.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I think it's true handicap is his sensitivity to his handy.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't know if he'd really be mad. I just
I'm like, oh, I don't know. I think it's a two.
He's gonna be like, no, don't talk about it. Yeah,
and it's real.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, scores certainly will be handled in what's on tap
and the headlines for sure. So yes, we got that covered.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And from the four two five step Chuck and' ash.
What's up with Bucky? Is he really on medical leave
or is he just getting ready for the home run derby?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
We honestly don't know. Now, there is this law that
we aren't really allowed to even contact.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Him, right because of because of the leave.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, because he's on medical leave, and so the company
can't look like we're putting any pressure on him at
all to come back, right, So if you give him
a phone, even if it's encouragement, Hey can't wait to
get you back, or hey, how's it, then that can.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Bets assuring him one way or another.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That could be seen as he's feeling pressure to come back.
And so there's really we don't know, And I think
there's a very good chance he's just taking the time
off to watch the World Cup and get ready for
the home run derby.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I mean that's what you're asked, way to use a
good way to put your time to good use.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Though the answer is yes, yes, What was the question again?
Just yes?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The question was is he really on medical leave or
is he taking the time to train for the home
run derby?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
No? And yes?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Okay, there you go. Two f three, This is the
last one. Don't cover soccer at all. I don't care
about Bosnia her girtsmeanor I'd rather cover water polo. Just
keep doing what you do her GIRs demeanor.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I like it sounds like a really sweet wine. Yeah
it does, made in the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, girz demeanor.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
There you go. All right, Well wait.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Last one?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Sorry?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Four?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Five?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Sup?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
What do you mean The World Cup starts this week?
Check kept telling me it starts in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Thank you, good one.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I believe right now it's two officially two weeks away.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, right now, right from today, m.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Mark, there you go, yeah, two weeks away. All right,
One last thing next, thank you. Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM. All right, final segment. One last thing
from Ashley and myself, Ashley, what do you got?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
So you know, we talk about how it doesn't take
a lot for at professional athletes to make a big impact,
especially on kids and the public. I mean, we saw
cal I guess he stayed around Everett and signed a
lot of autographs or during his stay up there, which
was great because it was a sold out game, a
lot of people up there to watch. Paul Skenes did
(29:34):
something similar but actually even just a little bit cooler.
He was driving by a little league field yesterday, I guess,
and decided to stop and then played catch with all
the kids. Oh great, and then hung out for over
two hours signing autographs and playing with these kids that
he just happened to drive by, which means he was
going somewhere, right, He was probably going home. He was
probably gonna go relax on his own, and he thought no,
(29:56):
I got to go do this instead goes a long way,
goes a long way. And I just thought, wow, that
is really awesome that you would take not even I
mean even if he's gone for fifteen minutes and said hi,
that would have been awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Have you seen that video Salvador Perez where there was
a they were playing woofle ball in their backyard. You
know the whole setup, hyeah, you try to figure out
your field and where's the home run fit. I mean
that just that old school set up that a lot
of us have done, playing woffle ball in the backyard.
And he saw them playing and he not only got
out to say hi, he played with them.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He was running bases, so do pres doesn't even like
running bases.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Right away, he doesn't do that at work.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
But yeah, skiing, same thing. So he went and played catch.
I mean that guy plays catch for a living. Yeah,
and was like it's like, yeah, I could do that,
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Of course the bases were shorter for Salvador.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well that's true. Maybe it was more like a jump anyway.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's just it's nice to see these guys that take that,
that know the platform that they have and what just
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Can what impact that can make?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So does it take a low It does not, No, doesn't.
And nobody's telling you to like run some big giant
charity event. Just if you've got two minutes. Yeah, say
hi to your fans, that's it, especially kids. Oh yeah,
and let them know that.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Those kids are never going to forget that. They're never
going to forget Paul Skeins and he's now probably gonna
be their favorite player for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Paul's got nothing else going for him though, that's true.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, his life is in shambles.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I'm going to close with this. I mean, I know
we talked a lot of baseball today and so I
probably should go in NBA Finals. We haven't talked about
that since Headlines at seven.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
But.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Because we've been talking so much about relief pitching, I
just want to point out that even though I'm having
trouble with this here, I have Ryan Healey, former major leaguer,
and it's not And I liked his response to it
because it's definitely not standing out to him that Dan
is struggling with his bullpen decisions. So you know, I
(31:57):
know it is for a lot of people that are
listening right now.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It certainly is for me, But here's a major leader saying, no,
I don't see anything that I think is wrong. You know,
certainly there's some question. Everybody's got their opinion on how
it should be handled. But he says he doesn't see
anything that's wrong. That said, since you can't do it
the way I want you to do it, Dan, I'm
gonna tell you in advance, let's see it all right,
(32:21):
So logan Gilbert tonight, we're gonna try to get six
out of him, and then we should have who the
Zardo for the seventh or Spire depending on Henderson, Alonzo
and Cowser. Those are the three guys I want him
facing tonight. And then for Rare is going to be
our closer tonight as Munos, Criswell, and Brash, I'm assuming
are getting days off because Brass can only pitch once
(32:43):
a week and Munos can't pitch three straight days, that's
for sure. He Yeah, he usually came pitch two, and
I would imagine Criswell can't pitch three straight days either,
So that's how it works. And then if Gilbert can
only go five, hopefully he doesn't hoppies your six.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Okay, so you're not putting all the pressure.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
At the end of the game, all right, and then
you go if it's a if it's Henderson, Alonso and
Cowser coming up, spire. Otherwise we say spire for when
they come up, and then we close it out with Ferrara.
So there he go. Does just do that?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, let's see if he's listening.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And I won't complain tomorrow. Pretty easy. Pretty easy, by
the way, they're throwing a left hander tonight. And Trevor Rodgers,
he's been what an odd career. He was great when
he came up with the Marlins, and then he became terrible,
and then they got rid of him for a song,
and then all of a sudden in Baltimore he became great,
and now this year's terrible again. He got like an
(33:39):
era around seven. Of course, he is left handed, so
it doesn't really matter if he's terrible and he faces
the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, that'll do it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So, yes, it'll be Gilbert versus the odd ball tonight
at three thirty five. We'll talk about it tomorrow at
five o'clock. Excuse me, six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And I'm not going to be here at five, so
good luck.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
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