The Mariners weekend was a tale of two organizations. The 50th celebration was everything the Mariners do well, from the Home Run Derby to the reveal of the Top 50, it was so well done. The on-field performance was everything the Mariners don’t do well these days… mostly score runs… What a terrible weekend of actual baseball; it tested our compartmentalizing skills. :30- Mariners Morning After The Mariners couldn’t score more than 2 runs over the weekend, so it’s no surprise they were swept by the Rays. What will it take for this team to find a spark and is it even possible? :45- EMMANUEL HENDERSON sits down with Chuck at camp. How is the rookie handling his first NFL camp as he splits receiving and special teams duties?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, great morning to you all. Welcome into the radio
show here on this Monday. It is Chuck and Buck
in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
We are set for another Monday here from the lovely
Virginia Mason Athletics Center, another Seahawks training camp day for
you as we get closer and closer to preseason games.
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Preseason action which starts on Thursday and for the Seahawks
will begin on Saturday at home against Dallas Moore. On
that coming up a little bit later on here in
the segment when we look through head lines and tell
you what is on tap. Good morning to you all.
Hope you had a great weekend. Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan
with you as we get this Monday started a brand
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new week. We got a lot of baseball things to
cry over. So we'll get to that here in a
little bit. I'll just say this, it is kind of
weird to Ashley over the course of training camp to
sort of see how the days are getting shorter. I mean,
we actually have like artificial lights on here this morning
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to start the show at six o'clock. And you know,
we started off when I was driving here and it
would still be a little bit light as I was
leaving the house to get here, and that was just
a couple short weeks ago, and here I am this morning,
and yeah, we're doing this by candlelight here today.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That does seem kind of romantic, though very romantic.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Terry, Ryan and I have got lost in your other's
eyes this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I like that for you guys. It's a great way
to stay art off on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, but they put there's a light on, which feels weird.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That is crazy to me. Yeah, it's like it change
is real fast.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, just keep it, just keep it dark, just keep
it dark. Like the light is reminding me. But yeah,
and then there are lights on the field already, so
the practice field, and so yeah, it's changing, it's changing,
ye know. Things change, Ashley. If you don't change with them,
you get left behind.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I think I heard someone say that once. Is it
like or that was more like life moves.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Real fast, kind of in the same.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Ball the ballpark, though.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I like it and it was inspirational before, and I
feel inspired again.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
A lot of wise people, a lot of wise people
say a lot of the same things, and they just say,
I'm a little bit differently, man, what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well, that makes sense. Yeah, a lot of people have
a lot of wise thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
How was your weekend? Everything good?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Everything was great.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It was relaxing, it was productive, it was yeh, can't complain.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
What about yours?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, it was pretty yeah, I think so. Yeah. Friday
was yeah, I'm trying to remember. Friday was kind of boring,
Saturday was kind of alcohol y, and then Sunday was
you don't get ready to go back to work kind
of stuff. That's kind of the way the work weekend works.
But here we sit on this Monday ready to let
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it rip again, and we got an awful lot of
things here to discuss with you today, and it probably
begins and ends with our baseball team. My goodness, what
a what a tale of two weekends because certainly, and
I get the frustration from a lot of Mariners fans,
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they just want the organization to deliver them at least
a World Series participant, and certainly at some point a
World Series champion. And when you've waited fifty years and
you're carrying the moniker of the only team in the
sport that has never gotten to the finish line of
a Major League Baseball season, Yeah, there's this mountain of
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resentment that certainly has built up, even though you do
have to admit that along the way, you've enjoyed some
things and you've grown to love some things about this organization.
And one of the real issues is, you know, the
promotions and the bobbleheads and the ceremonies, and the way
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too much attention paid to the mid nineties team with
Junior and Bunior and Edgar, and they can't get past it,
even though they never even made it to the World Series.
It's a bone of contention for a lot of people
out there, and I get it. I understand where you're
coming from. That said, and I think Softy talked about
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it a lot. Last week. I talked about it. Ian
and I talked about it here at our set last Friday.
I mean, you can't really blame a personal public relations
staff for stop trying to make their organizem look good.
To stop job, yeah, to stop trying to get people
to come into the ballpark even when the team is struggling.
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And I certainly you can't blame an organization. And it's
fifty years of history and they have put together some
history from putting together at some point in the season
some type of ceremony, which is what occurred over the weekend.
And quite frankly, it was spectacular.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It did a wonderful job with it Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean it was almost perfect, the way that it
was constructed, the precision with which was executed, the number
of former players that they got to participate, the joy
and the players that were on the field, and how
much they certainly seem to not just enjoy it, but
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seem to love it. They Rick riz announcement that he's
going into the Hall of Fame, and the fact that
most of the players, it seemed, were elated for the announcer,
the broadcaster of the team to get into the Hall
of Fame. I mean it was amazing. I mean, I
did not grow up here. I did not have the
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fifty years that a lot of you, or if you're
not fifty years old, you've known the Mariners your entire life.
So I didn't have a lifetime of it or fifty
years of it to fall back on. I certainly, as
a baseball fan, know a lot about baseball history. I
knew all the players that were being introduced on Saturday,
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even if I didn't watch them on a game by
game basis like so many of you did. And so
certainly the ceremony was just amazing. And I was even
brought Ashley to tiers about six times. Now four of
them were because OFZ, but I was brought to tears
like six times, or at least at least brought to
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emotions of on kind during the ceremony. And so we
got to first give them credit for what was pretty
difficult circumstances. This team that was supposed to go to
the World Series, according to a lot of different experts,
not just me Twitter followers, not just me, but supposed
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to be really good this year even if they didn't
go to a World Series. We weren't supposed to be
four games under five hundred heading into the weekend this weekend,
that's for sure. I mean they were counting on this
team being good. That's why they scheduled it for August,
because they weren't expecting the team to be at its
lowest moment while they were trying to celebrate fifty years
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of Mariner's history. But if you did separate yourself from
the way that the active team is playing and disappointing
us with every game that they take the field, and
could just enjoy the ceremony on Saturday, there way Actually
you couldn't have enjoyed what you watched Saturday before the game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, I thought it was awesome, and I also was
got emotional.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I mean just watching it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We sat outside and got to enjoy the one. It
was a nice day on Saturday, so anyone at the
ballpark was having a great you know, just the weather
was perfect.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And then you've got this introduction.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And I was I found myself on the edge of
my seat several times too, because like, when a Rod
came out, are people gonnaoo him?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
How are they going to receive him? I was very
curious about that.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And then you know when they had the Big four
walk out from center field, I mean, how could you
not get a little emotional watching the four of them
walk out together and then with the Rick Rizz thing.
I mean, the whole thing was so well done, and
it is amazing to me. I understand the frustration with
the way this team is playing.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I am a lifelong Mariners fan. I am frustrated. I
am also able to separate what happened before the game
on Saturday with the actual on play performance, and it
seems like a lot of people can't. Their frustration is
just so great it takes over every aspect of Mariners baseball. Well,
the last fifty years are still something to be celebrated.
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And does that mean that you know, we're good with
just celebrating the last fifty years and not trying to
accomplish more.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I was hoping that all of it was going to
translate to something on the field and these guys were
going to get a kick in the butt that they needed,
and it didn't work well.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Even Alvin Davis, who was chosen to speak on behalf
of the players brought this team up, tried to use
it as a motivational tool. And that's not just a
former Mariner. That's mister Mariner, and he has a role
in the organization and he's with them every spring training
and he's become a mentor and an advisor to nearly
everyone on this roster. But he used part of his
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speech to motivate the troops. So the two do get entwined.
There's no question about it. And I'm not sitting here
offering any kind of criticism because, as I said, I've
been here a fifth of the time. Some of you
have been following this team as closely as you have,
and I'll be honest, I got done with Friday's frustration,
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and all I really did Friday night was to make
sure I'm in front of the television to watch the Mariners.
That was like my motivation for the evening, And as
soon as the game was over on another lackluster offensive performance,
I turned it off completely, forgot about the home runner,
talked about it all week long. You know, have two friends,
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people that I consider friends, that are involved in the
home run derby itself, and I chose not to go.
I chose not to go to either of the event.
Part of it was certainly, hey, this is a lifer.
This is your weekend, not somebody that moved here eleven
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years ago. This is your weekend. And then part of
it also was Ashley Man this interm marriage between how
frustrated I am with the team and having to sit
there and watch ceremonies. I was just exhausted from it,
and and so I didn't go at ten and then,
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believe it or not, I was so disappointed with Friday
Night and the result of Friday Night, I just turned
it off. I turned it to The Agency, which is
a show that Ashley turned me on too, and I'm like,
I'm gonna fall asleep to this and get a good
night's sleep tonight. That's what I'm gonna do. And so
I turned that on, got into bed, and that was
the end of my Friday. And I didn't even remember
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until I saw your personal tweets in the morning talking
about how great the home run derby was. But even
that was was sensational from what I gather, I did
not watch it, but I mean when a pitcher hits
three home runs and Bucky starts it.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Off, you know, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, And and he gets this big giant embrace from
Buner and Griffy as he's coming off the field for
goodness sake, because I think there was a little bit
of it, are we gonna is anybody gonna hit a
home run?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think there was a little bit of that, and
for him to get it started, and so that was
even a spectacular event. It turned out better than I think.
I was there when the at spring training, when the
pr staff, when the figureheads were discussing whether or not
it was a good idea or not. Yeah, I was there,
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and whether or not they would feel they could get
full participation, if they could get six or seven old
timers to come back and participate. So there was some
apprehension as to whether or not to even do it
before the season got underway, and considering how apprehensive they
were at the time, and then how well it turned out,
even that was a successful event which allowed the Mariner
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fan to kind of forget about the team woes on
a Friday night and they really enjoyed themselves Saturday, same thing,
really enjoyed themselves, plus of a ceremony once again by
an organization that does that story sort of thing so well.
But it just does get measured against the frustration with
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how poorly this team has played all season long, and
right now Ashley, they're playing as bad as they have
at any point this season.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, it's ugly, I mean, and that I do feel like.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's you know, when you go to when you're dealing
with difficult parts of your life or different things where
there's a stress in one and then there's you know,
other things you've got to focus on. They tell you
to compartmentalize. Right, you've got to focus. You've got to
come to work and you've got to put your workout on,
and you've got to be president at work, and you've
got to get this stuff done. You can't let the
other stuff affect what you're doing at work. That's how
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I feel about the Mariners. I am compartmentalizing. I am
looking at that stuff and it gives me at the
actual game and I get a terrible taste in my mouth.
I have ended every game all week, all weekend long
like ugh, gross, I hate this, Like, at what point are.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
We going to figure it out? You would see glimpses
of these moments.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I mean, these guys wanted that Cal Rawley George Kirby
where they're both going for the ball in foul territory.
They want to win, but something is happening and it's
not coming together. But I compartmentalize that, and then you know,
these celebrations over the weekend, and that home run derby
was so well done. The guys looked like they were
having the best time. I had had texted with Ryan
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and with Bucky. Both of them said it was so
much fun to be there and they just loved it.
And it is a cool thing for people who have
played on this team to be able to come together
and have a reunion of sorts and celebrate the fact
that they all played for this team and it isn't
about what is happening on the field. Was it hard
to get yourself motivated to go watch the home run
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derby on Friday?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
After that game? Yeah, it was a little rough, but
I turned it on and they did such a great job.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
By the end of it, I was like, all right,
kind of you know, just it left me with a
not a good taste in my mouth as terms of
the on field product, But like I was, I genuinely enjoyed.
It was out there DJing and you know, I just
thought they did a great job with it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You had to separate it in order to enjoy it.
But it was hard to separate it. Yeah, Like I said,
I could have been in attendance, and I don't have
the fifty years you guys have. I could have been
in attendance for either of the nights, both of the nights,
and there was something about it like I'm not gonna
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do it. I'm I mean, they're right now. I just
I don't want to. I don't want to be a
part of that, even as somebody that is just watching.
And then as the game, as the events came on,
I was even reluctant to do that. Like on Friday,
I was reluctant to go and even watch it. I
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mean Friday, I didn't even think about it when the
game was over, and Saturday I was even reluctant to
even turn it on. And that's that's the truth. But
then once I did, it's like, my goodness, they this
is just an asterclass on how to do a ceremony.
This is spectacular. And I'm glad that I did. And
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I know you were glad you watched the home run derby,
So you gotta be able to separate the two, and
I hope that you were able to because I think
you would have enjoyed both of the events Friday and Saturday.
If that were the case, I think you would have
enjoyed them thoroughly. But it certainly does not take away
from what happened on the field. Once again, not just
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offensive woes, but just an offensive drought is taking place
right now with this team. They've had offensive woes all
season long. They are in the midst of an absolute
drought right now, and it does not look like they're
gonna turn it around. Doesn't mean they won't. Baseball's crazy,
It doesn't mean they won't. I mean, we've watched them
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go on twelve game winning streaks pulled out of the
fire before here in the last five years. But that's
probably what it's gonna take at this stage in the process.
You're probably gonna have to have like a miracle twelve
game run like nineteen ninety five in order to pull
this thing off right now. And I'm not saying they're
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not capable, but it's as low a point as they've
certainly been at all season long. Seven games under five
hundred for the first time this season, and all the
things that they have not done well this season, those
areas that they have come up short all season long,
they're worse at right now today than at any point
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this year. So it's looking very grim. It's gonna be
hard for me to sort of put a shine on
it in any other way. But it's it stinks when
you can have a ceremony like you had on Saturday,
a feel good fifty years celebration for an organization that
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has never gone to the World Series, and you can
somehow distract people from remembering a lot of the negatives
about this organization, particularly what's going on right now, and
then for a moment, for an hour, you provide this
tremendous feel great, not feel good, feel great celebration that
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allows everybody to kind of forget about the way that
the team's playing right now. And then that same magical evening,
Ashley ends with the players getting booed unmercifully and having
things thrown on the field for how terrible they are
right now.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, it was the It's just a terrible feeling. It's
an awful feeling. I mean, you mentioned like, do you
even want to watch the game on Sunday? I didn't
want to, but I was like, but I have to.
And this is my problem. I keep coming back every
time because I do feel like this team does have
what it takes if they could just find that spark.
But where is that spark coming from? And how often
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is it that we think we're gonna see that spark?
And there's always something, I mean, Josh Naylor single handily
trying to will the team to a win. You just think, Okay,
you see this guy out here, he's gonna he's going
to try to help you get this win.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But then nobody else can do anything.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And I'm just isn't that crazy? Yeah? I just like
every game it's like that.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's exactly and that's what's so frustrating. Like, and I
know that they're frustrated. I know that they're not like, well,
Josh is going to do it first guys, We're fine,
we don't need to do it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
That's not what's happening.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
But it is just baffling that you can watch this
team over and over and over and over again and
you're just watching the same thing. And I kind of
started to think to myself, well, am I the insane
one here?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I am?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah? Yeah, Cole Young was yesterday. Cole Young did everything right,
tremendous defense, tremendous hitting. Last night and no one else,
none of the other eight picked him up. And so
that's the type of season that it's been, and it
is maddening, there's no question about it. All Right, let's
find out what's on tap for our Monday show.
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Speaker 2 (20:02):
Tampa sweeps the Mariners over the weekend, so four to one.
The loss on Sunday. We'll recaptain that in Mariners Morning
after here at the bottom of the hour. The team
has the day off. They head to New York to
take on the Yankees starting tomorrow. We'll have more of
a preview on that front on tomorrow's show. Fifty six
and sixty three means they're seven games under five hundred
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for the first time this year. This is the new
official low point. But they do have a shovel and
they keep digging deeper. Four games out in the division,
which is still still easily surpassed with the amount of
times that they amount of games that they have remaining
but certainly they are not playing like a team that
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is about ready to gel three and a half games
out in the wild card. As well, the Mariners weekend
filled with the trementous you know, smiles and nostalgia and
all those good things, also highlighted Rick riz being announced
as the next member of the Mariners Hall of Fame,
and it was of course great to see that Seahawks
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training camp. We will discuss that today quite a bit.
Greg Bell's gonna join us at seven five, Emmanuel Henderson's
gonna join us one of the rookies at six forty
five this morning. But it is game week, so a
little different to twinge to our coverage here this week.
The Dallas Cowboys will be in town Saturday to start
the preseason. Of course, preseason football games get started on Thursday.
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Seahawks don't ploy though, until Saturday. Second episode of Hard
Knocks tomorrow. I have a feeling we're gonna learn a
little bit more about Jadarian Price's injury that is keeping
them out of practice quite a bit. We'll also ask
Greg about that, and we got to find out what's
going on with this Terry and Arnold's story, because this
is this is a significant piece of this weekend's training
(21:52):
camp news former detroit lyon former first round draft pick,
somebody that the Lions wanted to build defense around. But
he's facing charges that could send him away to prison
for life.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Eight of them. Eight charges.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
There's that. So what's going on? Why are the Seahawks
doing this? We'll talk about that later on in the show.
And of course, Husky's camp continues as well as we
count the days till the start of the season, the
Apple Cup, which starts the season on the sixth. All right,
so that's what's coming up today. On the other side
of the commercials Mariners Morning After. It is a recap
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Speaker 4 (22:40):
Who wouldn't love that? Who wouldn't love that?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
By the way, guys, don't forget your vitamins.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah yeah, take those on the road with you. All right,
Good morning to you all. It is a Monday, and yes, uh,
this is what we do after a Mariner's game. We
never skip a beat. We have Mariners Morning After. It's
our post game show and out or tunity to deliver
you a eight minute postgame show, but we just do
it the day after the game. We call it Mariners
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Morning After, a highlight, a sound bite, a preview of
what's going on tonight. And let's go back to those
Mariners who took on the Tampa Bay Rays. A good team,
no doubt, best team in the American League record wise,
and man, there are a few things you wouldn't mind
stealing from them, you know that hole putting the ball
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in play and putting pressure on the opposing team pretty
much from the beginning of the game to the end
of the game. And even though they're not overworldly talented,
they just go out there and out baseball you nearly
every game that they play. And that's what happened this weekend.
The Mariners could not get their offense going, and the
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Tampa Bay Rays, just like a swarm of gnats, just
kept coming at you throughout the course of the three
games and scratched out just enough runs. And so you
go into Sunday trying to find your offense, and you
thought maybe early on that was going to happen. Taylor
Ward hits one off the wall, ends up with a triple.
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Cole Young follows up with a clean single into the
outfield to bring home Ward and Wi La, you're up
one to nothing. Problem is, the Mariners did not score
another run against Ian Seymour and company, and that just
allowed the Tampa Bay Rays to wait out Emerson Hancock
and eventually they loaded up the bases. Liam Hicks, one
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of the newcomers for the Tampa Bay Rays, comes to
the plate in the sixth inning, and it doesn't take
much sometimes sometimes it just takes putting the ball in play.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I would say at the bucket, this drops in for
a base and Diz is into score. Simpson is coming
around now, and a soft base hit from Hanks works
out for a two run double, and the Rays now
in front four one.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's Aaron Goldsmith with a depressed call or the depressing
moment in the game. And yeah, it wasn't hit well,
and they walked cam and Arrow in order to face him,
and he just sort of duck snorted it down the
left field line, scores two and at that point four
to one. I think I can speak on bealf of
everybody listening when this team falls behind three runs. Unlike
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years in the past, even years in which they struggled offensively,
there still seemed to be a chance that you could
come back. It does not feel that way this year, Ashley.
When this team falls down two or three runs in
the middle of the game, it feels over And I
don't really recall the last time that they proved us
wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, and I do feel that as I'm watching the
games too, I'm trying to will them to do something.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It's like, if we.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Send enough energy through this television, I swear we can
all do this together.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
That's that's how I am watching the games, Like, come on, guys,
I'm sending it your way. Please do something. It's like
an extra stress and it just I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, it doesn't work. I can go ahead and tell
you to stop doing that. Okay, it's kind of a
waste of your.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Time, so it's never gonna work.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well no, it's never ever ever going to work. That
will never be the reason. But okay, I don't want
to tell you how to fan.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, probably saves me a lot of stress though if
I stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I think it's your family that thinks you're weird, probably
never had the heart to tell you.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
And the thing is too, I think it's a subconscious thing,
like I don't sit there thinking like, Okay, I'm gonna
do this and we're gonna win. It's like I'm trying
so hard to just like they've got to have something
in there.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Where is it? It's like in Hook, you know, like
when the kid looks in Peter's eyes. There you are, Peter.
I'm just trying to find Peter Man.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, you mean one of the great fantasy novels of
all times? What you're talking about that one?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, there you are, Peter.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I want that.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I want the Mariners to have that moment.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Okay, Tampa winds over Seattle. All they need is just
a little ferry to sprinkle dust on them whenever they
need to fly, and we'll have We'll fix this thing
in no time. All right, done, Tampa winds it till
four to one your final scores. They complete the sweep. Yesterday,
the Mariners managed just four runs all week in long
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I do agree with Aaron's take he said, there's nothing
looks less wait. Struggling offenses sort of give you this
impression that they don't care. Like it just feels depressing
when it's game after game and you're waiting for offense
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and they cannot generate it. And as you mentioned earlier,
it's nothing to do with effort or whether or not
they care enough. They do, but they're there, I think,
the exact same way that we are right now. And
this is unacceptable, and that is when they fall behind,
they think it's over. Yeah, I mean, they've lived it,
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and so there is a difference between how they start
a game and when they fall behind in a game.
And yeah, it can feel like they don't care when
they don't score runs. But I do believe that they
don't carry energy once that they've dropped, and I think
that that reflects directly on their leader. And I felt
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that way for quite some time. Dan Wilson looks to
me like a guy without answers. He spoke after the game.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, difficult day, difficult series.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
You know, I thought it started out with a bang,
you know, lead off triple and and then Cole getting
him in.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
You know, it looked like we were off to a
good start.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
And uh, you know, second inning, continue to add the
traffic and and you know, just weren't able to get
the big hit, and you know, things kind of required
after that, and uh, you know I thought.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
Emerson, you know, be battled. You know, they put up
those stuff at bats.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
They you know, uh, put a lot of pitches on,
you know, followed off a lot of stuff.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
You know they did. You know, they went after him.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Hard, got his pitch count up, and and but you know,
he hung in there and and I got out of
some jams, you know, turned it over to the bullpen
and and you know, uh kept it, kept it close
enough and and uh, you know, again just not able
offensively all series.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Really to to get too much going.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
And you know, uh, as we've talked about, you know,
that's what we've got to make. We gotta we've got
to be able to define our consistency.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
There's the offense quite lost.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
The willis you have to line up around other than
they're getting instruct or what's left?
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Where do you do from here? Well, you know it's
again it's not for lack of work. These guys are
are putting into work.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
You know that they're putting in the time that's necessary
and and that they're coming out prepared, and it's just
you know, we're just not seeing it on the field,
and and uh, you know it's it's a very frustrating time,
no question.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
And but you know we've got to keep pushing me.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
You know, we've got you know, we've got to find
a way. And you know that's really what it boils
down to, is finding a way.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, it's four and a half months to this. They've
never had any time this year had a consistent stretch
of hitting. I'm sure it's in them. Like I've said before,
every team in Major League Baseball at least has a
ten games stretch where they get hot, and this team
has not done that all season long. So maybe it's
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still to come. They're gonna need it. At this point,
Dan Wilson, to me, looks like a guy without answers.
He seems completely lost in his bullpen decisions. It doesn't
help that Bizardo is struggling and Ferrera is now struggling
as well, and Gabe Spire was suspended because we decided
to throw at somebody and try to exact personal revenge
(30:55):
rather than try to win a game the other day,
So there are some things ACKed against him from that standpoint.
He also doesn't seem to have one idea on how
to score runs other than waiting for a three run homer.
There is never any attempt to sort of do it differently,
and then on top of it all the same humdrum
(31:17):
excuses after every single game. And so we'll talk more
about Dan Wilson, somebody whose job I called for coming
out of the All Star break. It has not gotten
turned around. If anything, it's gotten worse since that time.
And yet a lot of people believed that the reason
that he wasn't being fired was because of the fiftieth
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celebration over the weekend, where he was in part going
to be honored. Well, that's now in the rear view mirror.
I do wonder if the Mariners, if Jerry, if Justin,
if John would be so bold as to make it
obvious that that's what they were waiting on, would they
do that. You've got a day off to day before
you travel to New York and face the Yankees, and
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right now they need some sort of spark that probably
is not gonna come from within at this stage. So
I doubt they're gonna do anything. But again I would
say I'd do it, but I've been I've already been there,
I've already come to that party, and I was and
I was not satisfied by by the decisions that were made.
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We'll talk more about that a little later on in
the show. Coming up next, Emmanuel Henderson, one of the
rookies here at camp for the Seahawks, will join us
at our set. We'll get to know him a little
bit on Sports Radio ninety three point three kh a RFM.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah, then you probably had a really crappy weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, he enjoyed the weather. You maybe got outside, had
a nice meal of food in the sunshine. That's always fun.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Super important to have a meal of food in the sun.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I love having meals of food in the sun, or
even better in the shade while the sun is out. Yeah,
we that's any better experience.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We ate a meal of food outside while watching the
fiftieth celebration on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, look at you. I don't have to tell
you though, I know you're gonna come through it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, red Wine, it was great.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Ah perfect, Well it is uh Chuck in the morning
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM, and Greg
Bell is going to be joining us at seven oh
five uh here this morning, so we'll get his thoughts
on what we missed over the weekend with training camp.
Updates on Chadarian Price, what's going on with Terry and
Arnold and more. We also have your headlines at the
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top of the hour as well. But joining us now
here from Seahawks training camp one of the rookies. Oh
my goodness, I'm just getting way too old because you
look way too young, Emanuel Henderson. This is and I
think it's my old eyes. I really do so. But
it's good to meet you. Uh and thanks for coming
on with us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yes, no problem.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
How's it going so far?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Going amazing?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, other than getting carted at every bar you go to.
Uh well, first pro camp. Uh so tell us what
surprised you about it thus far?
Speaker 10 (34:15):
Really just a small details of fundamental you know, they
take that to a different level here in the big leagues,
I'd probably say. But you know, everything's been going amazing,
you know, getting getting opportunity to go out and compete
easing every day and get better and grow every day.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
So it's been amazing so far.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh, very good, very good. Nobody's been a jerk to
you at this point.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Everybody's been cool.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
You know.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
We got a great group of guys you know, in
the room, So it's been going amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
All right, great, Emmanuel Henderson, our guest Kansas wide receiver
slash kick returner, slash demon on special teams. That's how
you've been described to us. What is it about special
teams that you love so much? Because you gotta love
it if you're gonna play it as fiercely as you
play it.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
I'm well, definitely, you know, I want to be here
today without special team, you know, So I gotta you know,
coming in as a young guy, you know, I gotta
embrace it, you know, find a way to get on
this team, you know, and just do anything possible to
have this team win for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So what is it that? What do you feel is
the key to being great at special teams?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
You know, just taking those small details.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
You know, Seriously, a lot of people might look over
on special teams, you know, think it's you know, not
cool or nothing like that. But I feel like it's
not opportunity to get on the field and you know,
show what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
But you were a huge recruit coming out of high school,
so obviously you got some athletic ability here and some
ability to catch the football. From what I understand, you
transferred to Kansas so that you could show pro scouts
that ability.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Do you feel like you accomplished that one hundred percent.
You know, I feel like I want to be here
without it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So how are you being used?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Then?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
In practice? Are you getting full wide receiver reps? And
then then you go to special teams? I say, I've
been doing both.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I've been getting some special team words and receiver what
work is same time.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So it's been going good, very good, very good. Who
is in the receiver room the guy that's helping you
out the most?
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Oh, I want to just say one guy. You know,
I lean on all the guys or the guys in there.
You know they all pitch in and throw little tips.
Had to help me out, So you know, I apply
autumn guys will help me for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
All right, Are you able to withstand Devin Witherspoon's trash talk?
Is that gone all right for you?
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Definitely.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
You know it's part of football. You know, he can't
let it get to your head. So at the end
of the day, he's going out there playing ball.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Is it part of football? Do you have to trash
talk to your teammates?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
It's gonna happen. So, you know, I feel like it
helps you keep your cool for the game. So you
be prepared.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Are you good at it?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Definitely?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Is there also a level though, like you probably were
the best in high school and then you get to
college and maybe we're the second best trash talker and
then you get to the pros. Are they even better
at this level?
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Well?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Definitely, you know, they definitely better at this level.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Okay, very good. Manuel Henderson Junior, our guest here on
Chuck in the Morning's here at this Sawks training camp.
All right, so hard Knocks? How has that been for you?
You are you getting family at home to watch the
episode every Tuesday?
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Well, definitely, know my fan watched the first episode. You know,
they really enjoy watching it, you know, being crazy, you know,
seeing all the cameras and stuff.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Everywhere you go. So yeah, it's been a great, great experience.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
That's different. Well definitely, what about practice now leading to
a game on Saturday? How much have things changed here
in the last couple of days as you get ready
for game prep?
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Uh, this is my first time, so this was my
first week, my first game we put the NFL. So
we finna see how I go today.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Okay, so it hasn't been mentioned to this point. Definitely,
nothing over the weekend just simple training camp. But today
you start game prep, sir, Okay, all right, and you
have no idea what to expect that. What did it
look like at Kansas when you start prep? What started
on Monday?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Started Monday?
Speaker 10 (37:56):
You know, you just start putting in a little in
game install you know, working on you know, certain concepts
you know we wanted may or want to put in
for the game for sure?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right? Did you end up a Jayawk basketball fan
through all?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
But definitely?
Speaker 10 (38:07):
You know I support the basketball team there in Kansas.
You know we had a good organization there and you know, but.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You were at Alabama. Long are you more of an
Alabama basketball Kansas basketball?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I'm from Alabama, so I'd probably say, yeah, I love Alabama.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
So I think that's fair. I think Kansas would understand.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Yeah, I like I love both schools.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Still, I don't think Bill self's feelings will be all right, Well,
tell us a little bit about you. What are what
are your likes dislikes? Give us our listeners a little
idea about what makes Emmanuel Henderson junior Emmanuel Henderson junior.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Oh me, you know something I like besides football? You know,
I love fishing.
Speaker 10 (38:40):
Okay, any free time I can get, you know, back home,
my fish, salt water, fresh water, any type of fishing,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Are you good? Is it a boat or on the
docks either? I do it all definitely okay.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
And your favorite type of fish to catch, I love
if I'm DC fish and red snapper for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Okay, you eat it because I know a lot of it.
I had an old co host and he fished. He
loved fishing, and he hates fish.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay, you know at the time. Yeah, well catch me one.
That's I love it too. All right, man, great to
meet you. Have a great camp, all right, and have
a great game. Go impress these people, all right. Emmanuel
Henderson June, you're joining us right here at our set.
Greg Bell is going to join us next plus your
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, great morning to you all. Welcome into the radio
show here on this Monday. It is Chuck and Buck
in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
We are set for another Monday here from the lovely
Virginia Mason Athletics Center, another Seahawks training camp day for
you as we get closer and closer to preseason games.
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Preseason action which starts on Thursday and for the Seahawks
will begin on Saturday at home against Dallas Moore. On
that coming up a little bit later on here in
the segment when we look through head lines and tell
you what is on tap. Good morning to you all.
Hope you had a great weekend. Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan
with you as we get this Monday started a brand
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new week. We got a lot of baseball things to
cry over. So we'll get to that here in a
little bit. I'll just say this, it is kind of
weird to Ashley over the course of training camp to
sort of see how the days are getting shorter. I mean,
we actually have like artificial lights on here this morning
(01:29):
to start the show at six o'clock. And you know,
we started off when I was driving here and it
would still be a little bit light as I was
leaving the house to get here, and that was just
a couple short weeks ago, and here I am this morning,
and yeah, we're doing this by candlelight here today.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That does seem kind of romantic, though very romantic.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Terry, Ryan and I have got lost in your other's
eyes this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I like that for you guys. It's a great way
to stay art off on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, but they put there's a light on, which feels weird.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That is crazy to me. Yeah, it's like it change
is real fast.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, just keep it, just keep it dark, just keep
it dark. Like the light is reminding me. But yeah,
and then there are lights on the field already, so
the practice field, and so yeah, it's changing, it's changing,
ye know. Things change, Ashley. If you don't change with them,
you get left behind.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I think I heard someone say that once. Is it
like or that was more like life moves.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Real fast, kind of in the same.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Ball the ballpark, though.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I like it and it was inspirational before, and I
feel inspired again.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
A lot of wise people, a lot of wise people
say a lot of the same things, and they just say,
I'm a little bit differently, man, what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well, that makes sense. Yeah, a lot of people have
a lot of wise thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
How was your weekend? Everything good?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Everything was great.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It was relaxing, it was productive, it was yeh, can't complain.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
What about yours?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, it was pretty yeah, I think so. Yeah. Friday
was yeah, I'm trying to remember. Friday was kind of boring,
Saturday was kind of alcohol y, and then Sunday was
you don't get ready to go back to work kind
of stuff. That's kind of the way the work weekend works.
But here we sit on this Monday ready to let
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it rip again, and we got an awful lot of
things here to discuss with you today, and it probably
begins and ends with our baseball team. My goodness, what
a what a tale of two weekends because certainly, and
I get the frustration from a lot of Mariners fans,
(03:40):
they just want the organization to deliver them at least
a World Series participant, and certainly at some point a
World Series champion. And when you've waited fifty years and
you're carrying the moniker of the only team in the
sport that has never gotten to the finish line of
a Major League Baseball season, Yeah, there's this mountain of
(04:01):
resentment that certainly has built up, even though you do
have to admit that along the way, you've enjoyed some
things and you've grown to love some things about this organization.
And one of the real issues is, you know, the
promotions and the bobbleheads and the ceremonies, and the way
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too much attention paid to the mid nineties team with
Junior and Bunior and Edgar, and they can't get past it,
even though they never even made it to the World Series.
It's a bone of contention for a lot of people
out there, and I get it. I understand where you're
coming from. That said, and I think Softy talked about
(04:47):
it a lot. Last week. I talked about it. Ian
and I talked about it here at our set last Friday.
I mean, you can't really blame a personal public relations
staff for stop trying to make their organizem look good.
To stop job, yeah, to stop trying to get people
to come into the ballpark even when the team is struggling.
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And I certainly you can't blame an organization. And it's
fifty years of history and they have put together some
history from putting together at some point in the season
some type of ceremony, which is what occurred over the weekend.
And quite frankly, it was spectacular.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It did a wonderful job with it Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean it was almost perfect, the way that it
was constructed, the precision with which was executed, the number
of former players that they got to participate, the joy
and the players that were on the field, and how
much they certainly seem to not just enjoy it, but
(05:55):
seem to love it. They Rick riz announcement that he's
going into the Hall of Fame, and the fact that
most of the players, it seemed, were elated for the announcer,
the broadcaster of the team to get into the Hall
of Fame. I mean it was amazing. I mean, I
did not grow up here. I did not have the
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fifty years that a lot of you, or if you're
not fifty years old, you've known the Mariners your entire life.
So I didn't have a lifetime of it or fifty
years of it to fall back on. I certainly, as
a baseball fan, know a lot about baseball history. I
knew all the players that were being introduced on Saturday,
(06:36):
even if I didn't watch them on a game by
game basis like so many of you did. And so
certainly the ceremony was just amazing. And I was even
brought Ashley to tiers about six times. Now four of
them were because OFZ, but I was brought to tears
like six times, or at least at least brought to
(06:59):
emotions of on kind during the ceremony. And so we
got to first give them credit for what was pretty
difficult circumstances. This team that was supposed to go to
the World Series, according to a lot of different experts,
not just me Twitter followers, not just me, but supposed
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to be really good this year even if they didn't
go to a World Series. We weren't supposed to be
four games under five hundred heading into the weekend this weekend,
that's for sure. I mean they were counting on this
team being good. That's why they scheduled it for August,
because they weren't expecting the team to be at its
lowest moment while they were trying to celebrate fifty years
(07:46):
of Mariner's history. But if you did separate yourself from
the way that the active team is playing and disappointing
us with every game that they take the field, and
could just enjoy the ceremony on Saturday, there way Actually
you couldn't have enjoyed what you watched Saturday before the game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, I thought it was awesome, and I also was
got emotional.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I mean just watching it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We sat outside and got to enjoy the one. It
was a nice day on Saturday, so anyone at the
ballpark was having a great you know, just the weather
was perfect.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And then you've got this introduction.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And I was I found myself on the edge of
my seat several times too, because like, when a Rod
came out, are people gonnaoo him?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
How are they going to receive him? I was very
curious about that.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And then you know when they had the Big four
walk out from center field, I mean, how could you
not get a little emotional watching the four of them
walk out together and then with the Rick Rizz thing.
I mean, the whole thing was so well done, and
it is amazing to me. I understand the frustration with
the way this team is playing.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I am a lifelong Mariners fan. I am frustrated. I
am also able to separate what happened before the game
on Saturday with the actual on play performance, and it
seems like a lot of people can't. Their frustration is
just so great it takes over every aspect of Mariners baseball. Well,
the last fifty years are still something to be celebrated.
(09:09):
And does that mean that you know, we're good with
just celebrating the last fifty years and not trying to
accomplish more.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I was hoping that all of it was going to
translate to something on the field and these guys were
going to get a kick in the butt that they needed,
and it didn't work well.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Even Alvin Davis, who was chosen to speak on behalf
of the players brought this team up, tried to use
it as a motivational tool. And that's not just a
former Mariner. That's mister Mariner, and he has a role
in the organization and he's with them every spring training
and he's become a mentor and an advisor to nearly
everyone on this roster. But he used part of his
(09:46):
speech to motivate the troops. So the two do get entwined.
There's no question about it. And I'm not sitting here
offering any kind of criticism because, as I said, I've
been here a fifth of the time. Some of you
have been following this team as closely as you have,
and I'll be honest, I got done with Friday's frustration,
(10:10):
and all I really did Friday night was to make
sure I'm in front of the television to watch the Mariners.
That was like my motivation for the evening, And as
soon as the game was over on another lackluster offensive performance,
I turned it off completely, forgot about the home runner,
talked about it all week long. You know, have two friends,
(10:31):
people that I consider friends, that are involved in the
home run derby itself, and I chose not to go.
I chose not to go to either of the event.
Part of it was certainly, hey, this is a lifer.
This is your weekend, not somebody that moved here eleven
(10:52):
years ago. This is your weekend. And then part of
it also was Ashley Man this interm marriage between how
frustrated I am with the team and having to sit
there and watch ceremonies. I was just exhausted from it,
and and so I didn't go at ten and then,
(11:13):
believe it or not, I was so disappointed with Friday
Night and the result of Friday Night, I just turned
it off. I turned it to The Agency, which is
a show that Ashley turned me on too, and I'm like,
I'm gonna fall asleep to this and get a good
night's sleep tonight. That's what I'm gonna do. And so
I turned that on, got into bed, and that was
the end of my Friday. And I didn't even remember
(11:35):
until I saw your personal tweets in the morning talking
about how great the home run derby was. But even
that was was sensational from what I gather, I did
not watch it, but I mean when a pitcher hits
three home runs and Bucky starts it.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Off, you know, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, And and he gets this big giant embrace from
Buner and Griffy as he's coming off the field for
goodness sake, because I think there was a little bit
of it, are we gonna is anybody gonna hit a
home run?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think there was a little bit of that, and
for him to get it started, and so that was
even a spectacular event. It turned out better than I think.
I was there when the at spring training, when the
pr staff, when the figureheads were discussing whether or not
it was a good idea or not. Yeah, I was there,
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and whether or not they would feel they could get
full participation, if they could get six or seven old
timers to come back and participate. So there was some
apprehension as to whether or not to even do it
before the season got underway, and considering how apprehensive they
were at the time, and then how well it turned out,
even that was a successful event which allowed the Mariner
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fan to kind of forget about the team woes on
a Friday night and they really enjoyed themselves Saturday, same thing,
really enjoyed themselves, plus of a ceremony once again by
an organization that does that story sort of thing so well.
But it just does get measured against the frustration with
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how poorly this team has played all season long, and
right now Ashley, they're playing as bad as they have
at any point this season.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, it's ugly, I mean, and that I do feel like.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's you know, when you go to when you're dealing
with difficult parts of your life or different things where
there's a stress in one and then there's you know,
other things you've got to focus on. They tell you
to compartmentalize. Right, you've got to focus. You've got to
come to work and you've got to put your workout on,
and you've got to be president at work, and you've
got to get this stuff done. You can't let the
other stuff affect what you're doing at work. That's how
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I feel about the Mariners. I am compartmentalizing. I am
looking at that stuff and it gives me at the
actual game and I get a terrible taste in my mouth.
I have ended every game all week, all weekend long
like ugh, gross, I hate this, Like, at what point are.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
We going to figure it out? You would see glimpses
of these moments.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I mean, these guys wanted that Cal Rawley George Kirby
where they're both going for the ball in foul territory.
They want to win, but something is happening and it's
not coming together. But I compartmentalize that, and then you know,
these celebrations over the weekend, and that home run derby
was so well done. The guys looked like they were
having the best time. I had had texted with Ryan
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and with Bucky. Both of them said it was so
much fun to be there and they just loved it.
And it is a cool thing for people who have
played on this team to be able to come together
and have a reunion of sorts and celebrate the fact
that they all played for this team and it isn't
about what is happening on the field. Was it hard
to get yourself motivated to go watch the home run
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derby on Friday?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
After that game? Yeah, it was a little rough, but
I turned it on and they did such a great job.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
By the end of it, I was like, all right,
kind of you know, just it left me with a
not a good taste in my mouth as terms of
the on field product, But like I was, I genuinely enjoyed.
It was out there DJing and you know, I just
thought they did a great job with it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You had to separate it in order to enjoy it.
But it was hard to separate it. Yeah, Like I said,
I could have been in attendance, and I don't have
the fifty years you guys have. I could have been
in attendance for either of the nights, both of the nights,
and there was something about it like I'm not gonna
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do it. I'm I mean, they're right now. I just
I don't want to. I don't want to be a
part of that, even as somebody that is just watching.
And then as the game, as the events came on,
I was even reluctant to do that. Like on Friday,
I was reluctant to go and even watch it. I
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mean Friday, I didn't even think about it when the
game was over, and Saturday I was even reluctant to
even turn it on. And that's that's the truth. But
then once I did, it's like, my goodness, they this
is just an asterclass on how to do a ceremony.
This is spectacular. And I'm glad that I did. And
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I know you were glad you watched the home run derby,
So you gotta be able to separate the two, and
I hope that you were able to because I think
you would have enjoyed both of the events Friday and Saturday.
If that were the case, I think you would have
enjoyed them thoroughly. But it certainly does not take away
from what happened on the field. Once again, not just
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offensive woes, but just an offensive drought is taking place
right now with this team. They've had offensive woes all
season long. They are in the midst of an absolute
drought right now, and it does not look like they're
gonna turn it around. Doesn't mean they won't. Baseball's crazy,
It doesn't mean they won't. I mean, we've watched them
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go on twelve game winning streaks pulled out of the
fire before here in the last five years. But that's
probably what it's gonna take at this stage in the process.
You're probably gonna have to have like a miracle twelve
game run like nineteen ninety five in order to pull
this thing off right now. And I'm not saying they're
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not capable, but it's as low a point as they've
certainly been at all season long. Seven games under five
hundred for the first time this season, and all the
things that they have not done well this season, those
areas that they have come up short all season long,
they're worse at right now today than at any point
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this year. So it's looking very grim. It's gonna be
hard for me to sort of put a shine on
it in any other way. But it's it stinks when
you can have a ceremony like you had on Saturday,
a feel good fifty years celebration for an organization that
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has never gone to the World Series, and you can
somehow distract people from remembering a lot of the negatives
about this organization, particularly what's going on right now, and
then for a moment, for an hour, you provide this
tremendous feel great, not feel good, feel great celebration that
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allows everybody to kind of forget about the way that
the team's playing right now. And then that same magical evening,
Ashley ends with the players getting booed unmercifully and having
things thrown on the field for how terrible they are
right now.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, it was the It's just a terrible feeling. It's
an awful feeling. I mean, you mentioned like, do you
even want to watch the game on Sunday? I didn't
want to, but I was like, but I have to.
And this is my problem. I keep coming back every
time because I do feel like this team does have
what it takes if they could just find that spark.
But where is that spark coming from? And how often
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is it that we think we're gonna see that spark?
And there's always something, I mean, Josh Naylor single handily
trying to will the team to a win. You just think, Okay,
you see this guy out here, he's gonna he's going
to try to help you get this win.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But then nobody else can do anything.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And I'm just isn't that crazy? Yeah? I just like
every game it's like that.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's exactly and that's what's so frustrating. Like, and I
know that they're frustrated. I know that they're not like, well,
Josh is going to do it first guys, We're fine,
we don't need to do it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
That's not what's happening.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
But it is just baffling that you can watch this
team over and over and over and over again and
you're just watching the same thing. And I kind of
started to think to myself, well, am I the insane
one here?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I am?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah? Yeah, Cole Young was yesterday. Cole Young did everything right,
tremendous defense, tremendous hitting. Last night and no one else,
none of the other eight picked him up. And so
that's the type of season that it's been, and it
is maddening, there's no question about it. All Right, let's
find out what's on tap for our Monday show.
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Speaker 2 (20:02):
Tampa sweeps the Mariners over the weekend, so four to one.
The loss on Sunday. We'll recaptain that in Mariners Morning
after here at the bottom of the hour. The team
has the day off. They head to New York to
take on the Yankees starting tomorrow. We'll have more of
a preview on that front on tomorrow's show. Fifty six
and sixty three means they're seven games under five hundred
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for the first time this year. This is the new
official low point. But they do have a shovel and
they keep digging deeper. Four games out in the division,
which is still still easily surpassed with the amount of
times that they amount of games that they have remaining
but certainly they are not playing like a team that
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is about ready to gel three and a half games
out in the wild card. As well, the Mariners weekend
filled with the trementous you know, smiles and nostalgia and
all those good things, also highlighted Rick riz being announced
as the next member of the Mariners Hall of Fame,
and it was of course great to see that Seahawks
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training camp. We will discuss that today quite a bit.
Greg Bell's gonna join us at seven five, Emmanuel Henderson's
gonna join us one of the rookies at six forty
five this morning. But it is game week, so a
little different to twinge to our coverage here this week.
The Dallas Cowboys will be in town Saturday to start
the preseason. Of course, preseason football games get started on Thursday.
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Seahawks don't ploy though, until Saturday. Second episode of Hard
Knocks tomorrow. I have a feeling we're gonna learn a
little bit more about Jadarian Price's injury that is keeping
them out of practice quite a bit. We'll also ask
Greg about that, and we got to find out what's
going on with this Terry and Arnold's story, because this
is this is a significant piece of this weekend's training
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camp news former detroit lyon former first round draft pick,
somebody that the Lions wanted to build defense around. But
he's facing charges that could send him away to prison
for life.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Eight of them. Eight charges.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
There's that. So what's going on? Why are the Seahawks
doing this? We'll talk about that later on in the show.
And of course, Husky's camp continues as well as we
count the days till the start of the season, the
Apple Cup, which starts the season on the sixth. All right,
so that's what's coming up today. On the other side
of the commercials Mariners Morning After. It is a recap
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of yesterday's latest disappointment. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
Hi Brian by Bryce.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Who wouldn't love that? Who wouldn't love that?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
By the way, guys, don't forget your vitamins.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah yeah, take those on the road with you. All right,
Good morning to you all. It is a Monday, and yes, uh,
this is what we do after a Mariner's game. We
never skip a beat. We have Mariners Morning After. It's
our post game show and out or tunity to deliver
you a eight minute postgame show, but we just do
it the day after the game. We call it Mariners
(23:07):
Morning After, a highlight, a sound bite, a preview of
what's going on tonight. And let's go back to those
Mariners who took on the Tampa Bay Rays. A good team,
no doubt, best team in the American League record wise,
and man, there are a few things you wouldn't mind
stealing from them, you know that hole putting the ball
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in play and putting pressure on the opposing team pretty
much from the beginning of the game to the end
of the game. And even though they're not overworldly talented,
they just go out there and out baseball you nearly
every game that they play. And that's what happened this weekend.
The Mariners could not get their offense going, and the
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Tampa Bay Rays, just like a swarm of gnats, just
kept coming at you throughout the course of the three
games and scratched out just enough runs. And so you
go into Sunday trying to find your offense, and you
thought maybe early on that was going to happen. Taylor
Ward hits one off the wall, ends up with a triple.
(24:09):
Cole Young follows up with a clean single into the
outfield to bring home Ward and Wi La, you're up
one to nothing. Problem is, the Mariners did not score
another run against Ian Seymour and company, and that just
allowed the Tampa Bay Rays to wait out Emerson Hancock
and eventually they loaded up the bases. Liam Hicks, one
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of the newcomers for the Tampa Bay Rays, comes to
the plate in the sixth inning, and it doesn't take
much sometimes sometimes it just takes putting the ball in play.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I would say at the bucket, this drops in for
a base and Diz is into score. Simpson is coming
around now, and a soft base hit from Hanks works
out for a two run double, and the Rays now
in front four one.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's Aaron Goldsmith with a depressed call or the depressing
moment in the game. And yeah, it wasn't hit well,
and they walked cam and Arrow in order to face him,
and he just sort of duck snorted it down the
left field line, scores two and at that point four
to one. I think I can speak on bealf of
everybody listening when this team falls behind three runs. Unlike
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years in the past, even years in which they struggled offensively,
there still seemed to be a chance that you could
come back. It does not feel that way this year, Ashley.
When this team falls down two or three runs in
the middle of the game, it feels over And I
don't really recall the last time that they proved us
wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, and I do feel that as I'm watching the
games too, I'm trying to will them to do something.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It's like, if we.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Send enough energy through this television, I swear we can
all do this together.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
That's that's how I am watching the games, Like, come on, guys,
I'm sending it your way. Please do something. It's like
an extra stress and it just I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, it doesn't work. I can go ahead and tell
you to stop doing that. Okay, it's kind of a
waste of your.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Time, so it's never gonna work.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well no, it's never ever ever going to work. That
will never be the reason. But okay, I don't want
to tell you how to fan.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, probably saves me a lot of stress though if
I stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I think it's your family that thinks you're weird, probably
never had the heart to tell you.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
And the thing is too, I think it's a subconscious thing,
like I don't sit there thinking like, Okay, I'm gonna
do this and we're gonna win. It's like I'm trying
so hard to just like they've got to have something
in there.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Where is it? It's like in Hook, you know, like
when the kid looks in Peter's eyes. There you are, Peter.
I'm just trying to find Peter Man.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, you mean one of the great fantasy novels of
all times? What you're talking about that one?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, there you are, Peter.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I want that.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I want the Mariners to have that moment.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Okay, Tampa winds over Seattle. All they need is just
a little ferry to sprinkle dust on them whenever they
need to fly, and we'll have We'll fix this thing
in no time. All right, done, Tampa winds it till
four to one your final scores. They complete the sweep. Yesterday,
the Mariners managed just four runs all week in long
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I do agree with Aaron's take he said, there's nothing
looks less wait. Struggling offenses sort of give you this
impression that they don't care. Like it just feels depressing
when it's game after game and you're waiting for offense
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and they cannot generate it. And as you mentioned earlier,
it's nothing to do with effort or whether or not
they care enough. They do, but they're there, I think,
the exact same way that we are right now. And
this is unacceptable, and that is when they fall behind,
they think it's over. Yeah, I mean, they've lived it,
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and so there is a difference between how they start
a game and when they fall behind in a game.
And yeah, it can feel like they don't care when
they don't score runs. But I do believe that they
don't carry energy once that they've dropped, and I think
that that reflects directly on their leader. And I felt
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that way for quite some time. Dan Wilson looks to
me like a guy without answers. He spoke after the game.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, difficult day, difficult series.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
You know, I thought it started out with a bang,
you know, lead off triple and and then Cole getting
him in.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
You know, it looked like we were off to a
good start.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
And uh, you know, second inning, continue to add the
traffic and and you know, just weren't able to get
the big hit, and you know, things kind of required
after that, and uh, you know I thought.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
Emerson, you know, be battled. You know, they put up
those stuff at bats.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
They you know, uh, put a lot of pitches on,
you know, followed off a lot of stuff.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
You know they did. You know, they went after him.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Hard, got his pitch count up, and and but you know,
he hung in there and and I got out of
some jams, you know, turned it over to the bullpen
and and you know, uh kept it, kept it close
enough and and uh, you know, again just not able
offensively all series.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Really to to get too much going.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
And you know, uh, as we've talked about, you know,
that's what we've got to make. We gotta we've got
to be able to define our consistency.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
There's the offense quite lost.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
The willis you have to line up around other than
they're getting instruct or what's left?
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Where do you do from here? Well, you know it's
again it's not for lack of work. These guys are
are putting into work.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
You know that they're putting in the time that's necessary
and and that they're coming out prepared, and it's just
you know, we're just not seeing it on the field,
and and uh, you know it's it's a very frustrating time,
no question.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
And but you know we've got to keep pushing me.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
You know, we've got you know, we've got to find
a way. And you know that's really what it boils
down to, is finding a way.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, it's four and a half months to this. They've
never had any time this year had a consistent stretch
of hitting. I'm sure it's in them. Like I've said before,
every team in Major League Baseball at least has a
ten games stretch where they get hot, and this team
has not done that all season long. So maybe it's
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still to come. They're gonna need it. At this point,
Dan Wilson, to me, looks like a guy without answers.
He seems completely lost in his bullpen decisions. It doesn't
help that Bizardo is struggling and Ferrera is now struggling
as well, and Gabe Spire was suspended because we decided
to throw at somebody and try to exact personal revenge
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rather than try to win a game the other day,
So there are some things ACKed against him from that standpoint.
He also doesn't seem to have one idea on how
to score runs other than waiting for a three run homer.
There is never any attempt to sort of do it differently,
and then on top of it all the same humdrum
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excuses after every single game. And so we'll talk more
about Dan Wilson, somebody whose job I called for coming
out of the All Star break. It has not gotten
turned around. If anything, it's gotten worse since that time.
And yet a lot of people believed that the reason
that he wasn't being fired was because of the fiftieth
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celebration over the weekend, where he was in part going
to be honored. Well, that's now in the rear view mirror.
I do wonder if the Mariners, if Jerry, if Justin,
if John would be so bold as to make it
obvious that that's what they were waiting on, would they
do that. You've got a day off to day before
you travel to New York and face the Yankees, and
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right now they need some sort of spark that probably
is not gonna come from within at this stage. So
I doubt they're gonna do anything. But again I would
say I'd do it, but I've been I've already been there,
I've already come to that party, and I was and
I was not satisfied by by the decisions that were made.
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We'll talk more about that a little later on in
the show. Coming up next, Emmanuel Henderson, one of the
rookies here at camp for the Seahawks, will join us
at our set. We'll get to know him a little
bit on Sports Radio ninety three point three kh a RFM.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah, then you probably had a really crappy weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, he enjoyed the weather. You maybe got outside, had
a nice meal of food in the sunshine. That's always fun.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Super important to have a meal of food in the sun.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I love having meals of food in the sun, or
even better in the shade while the sun is out. Yeah,
we that's any better experience.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We ate a meal of food outside while watching the
fiftieth celebration on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, look at you. I don't have to tell
you though, I know you're gonna come through it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, red Wine, it was great.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Ah perfect, Well it is uh Chuck in the morning
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM, and Greg
Bell is going to be joining us at seven oh
five uh here this morning, so we'll get his thoughts
on what we missed over the weekend with training camp.
Updates on Chadarian Price, what's going on with Terry and
Arnold and more. We also have your headlines at the
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top of the hour as well. But joining us now
here from Seahawks training camp one of the rookies. Oh
my goodness, I'm just getting way too old because you
look way too young, Emanuel Henderson. This is and I
think it's my old eyes. I really do so. But
it's good to meet you. Uh and thanks for coming
on with us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yes, no problem.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
How's it going so far?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Going amazing?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, other than getting carted at every bar you go to.
Uh well, first pro camp. Uh so tell us what
surprised you about it thus far?
Speaker 10 (34:15):
Really just a small details of fundamental you know, they
take that to a different level here in the big leagues,
I'd probably say. But you know, everything's been going amazing,
you know, getting getting opportunity to go out and compete
easing every day and get better and grow every day.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
So it's been amazing so far.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh, very good, very good. Nobody's been a jerk to
you at this point.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Everybody's been cool.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
You know.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
We got a great group of guys you know, in
the room, So it's been going amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
All right, great, Emmanuel Henderson, our guest Kansas wide receiver
slash kick returner, slash demon on special teams. That's how
you've been described to us. What is it about special
teams that you love so much? Because you gotta love
it if you're gonna play it as fiercely as you
play it.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
I'm well, definitely, you know, I want to be here
today without special team, you know, So I gotta you know,
coming in as a young guy, you know, I gotta
embrace it, you know, find a way to get on
this team, you know, and just do anything possible to
have this team win for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So what is it that? What do you feel is
the key to being great at special teams?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
You know, just taking those small details.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
You know, Seriously, a lot of people might look over
on special teams, you know, think it's you know, not
cool or nothing like that. But I feel like it's
not opportunity to get on the field and you know,
show what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
But you were a huge recruit coming out of high school,
so obviously you got some athletic ability here and some
ability to catch the football. From what I understand, you
transferred to Kansas so that you could show pro scouts
that ability.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Do you feel like you accomplished that one hundred percent.
You know, I feel like I want to be here
without it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So how are you being used?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Then?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
In practice? Are you getting full wide receiver reps? And
then then you go to special teams? I say, I've
been doing both.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I've been getting some special team words and receiver what
work is same time.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So it's been going good, very good, very good. Who
is in the receiver room the guy that's helping you
out the most?
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Oh, I want to just say one guy. You know,
I lean on all the guys or the guys in there.
You know they all pitch in and throw little tips.
Had to help me out, So you know, I apply
autumn guys will help me for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
All right, Are you able to withstand Devin Witherspoon's trash talk?
Is that gone all right for you?
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Definitely.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
You know it's part of football. You know, he can't
let it get to your head. So at the end
of the day, he's going out there playing ball.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Is it part of football? Do you have to trash
talk to your teammates?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
It's gonna happen. So, you know, I feel like it
helps you keep your cool for the game. So you
be prepared.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Are you good at it?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Definitely?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Is there also a level though, like you probably were
the best in high school and then you get to
college and maybe we're the second best trash talker and
then you get to the pros. Are they even better
at this level?
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Well?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Definitely, you know, they definitely better at this level.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Okay, very good. Manuel Henderson Junior, our guest here on
Chuck in the Morning's here at this Sawks training camp.
All right, so hard Knocks? How has that been for you?
You are you getting family at home to watch the
episode every Tuesday?
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Well, definitely, know my fan watched the first episode. You know,
they really enjoy watching it, you know, being crazy, you know,
seeing all the cameras and stuff.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Everywhere you go. So yeah, it's been a great, great experience.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
That's different. Well definitely, what about practice now leading to
a game on Saturday? How much have things changed here
in the last couple of days as you get ready
for game prep?
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Uh, this is my first time, so this was my
first week, my first game we put the NFL. So
we finna see how I go today.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Okay, so it hasn't been mentioned to this point. Definitely,
nothing over the weekend just simple training camp. But today
you start game prep, sir, Okay, all right, and you
have no idea what to expect that. What did it
look like at Kansas when you start prep? What started
on Monday?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Started Monday?
Speaker 10 (37:56):
You know, you just start putting in a little in
game install you know, working on you know, certain concepts
you know we wanted may or want to put in
for the game for sure?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right? Did you end up a Jayawk basketball fan
through all?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
But definitely?
Speaker 10 (38:07):
You know I support the basketball team there in Kansas.
You know we had a good organization there and you know, but.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You were at Alabama. Long are you more of an
Alabama basketball Kansas basketball?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I'm from Alabama, so I'd probably say, yeah, I love Alabama.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
So I think that's fair. I think Kansas would understand.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Yeah, I like I love both schools.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Still, I don't think Bill self's feelings will be all right, Well,
tell us a little bit about you. What are what
are your likes dislikes? Give us our listeners a little
idea about what makes Emmanuel Henderson junior Emmanuel Henderson junior.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Oh me, you know something I like besides football? You know,
I love fishing.
Speaker 10 (38:40):
Okay, any free time I can get, you know, back home,
my fish, salt water, fresh water, any type of fishing,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Are you good? Is it a boat or on the
docks either? I do it all definitely okay.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
And your favorite type of fish to catch, I love
if I'm DC fish and red snapper for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Okay, you eat it because I know a lot of it.
I had an old co host and he fished. He
loved fishing, and he hates fish.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay, you know at the time. Yeah, well catch me one.
That's I love it too. All right, man, great to
meet you. Have a great camp, all right, and have
a great game. Go impress these people, all right. Emmanuel
Henderson June, you're joining us right here at our set.
Greg Bell is going to join us next plus your
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