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August 11, 2026 39 mins
RYON HEALY (Mariners TV) We’ve got to start off with the home run derby and hear about it from Ryon’s perspective. Was it fair that he had a pitching change mid at-bat? The Mariners can’t score runs and they’re 7 games under .500; what is going on in the mind of a current Mariners player as they make the trip across the country? Is it the individuals or the team? How would Ryon diagnose the issues? Can they make the adjustments needed at this point in the season? Can Ryon give a reason for why Dan Wilson is the right guy for this job right now? Where is one area that Dan Wilson needs to be better? :30- NFL News & Notes - Emmanwori has passed it physical and that sounds like very good news! - Brian Fleury’s two-tight end system and his touch on the offense - Kansas City is finally going to use Former Seahawk Ken Walker the way he always wanted to be used here. - Jaxson Dart got a standing O from his teammates… for sliding. - The Cowboys are always stirring the pot- they extended Quinnen Williams and somewhere George Pickens is very angry. :45- We wrap up the show with one last thing!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, great morning to you, Happy Tuesday to you all, Ashley, Ryan,
Chuck Powell with you as we roll into our fourth
and final hour here on this Tuesday. But it is
one of our favorite hours, and it's because Ryan Heay
now joins his former Mariner just in town home run
derbying this past weekend, and he's got a lot of
problems for us to solve here in regards to Mariners baseball.

(00:23):
So we're leaning pretty heavily on you, big guy.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I thought you provide the problems. I provide this solution. Yeah, Yeah,
You're gonna have to solve it all.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
That's what's happening now.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm gonna create a lot of problems and then you
solve them all, and then we can all feel better
about things.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
We're going no notes today, no stats.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
We're just gonna go straight the eye test and we're
just gonna hash this out Chuck old stack, old fashion right.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, Well, I can't wait to dive into it,
but I do want to ask was it fair to
bring a pitching change in the middle of your home
run derby round on Friday and have to face James
Paxton just because Jay Bunior likes showmanship, define fair. I'll
answer that no, has he even pitched batting practice ever

(01:08):
before in his life?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Did you get the pitches you were looking for? You know, Chuck,
I'll answer it like this. There was a moment during
that day on Friday, when I landed in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I had a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I had a choice where I can make the Homer
Derby about myself and my ego to win, which I
believe I did for a lot of my life as
a professional athlete, or I could choose to see the
bigger picture of what this was actually about. And fortunately
for me, I saw that bigger picture during the game
because I got an opportunity to experience what t Mobile

(01:42):
Park feels like as a fan for the first time ever.
I got to sit in the stands, I had got
a walk around the concourse full of Mariners, fands that
loved this organization, this city so much. I had a
chance to experience that for the first time ever. From
that perspective, and all of a sudden hit me, this
was never about me. Whether it's James pack Cent or
Felix Hernandez or Randy Johnson throwing me batting practice, this

(02:05):
wasn't about me. This was about entertainment, This was about connection,
This was about enjoying the moment.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I did all of those things.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I connected with superstars, I connected with fans, and I
felt like the Mariners put on a tremendous show. And
I promise you, I promise you, at some point, if
I'm able to do that Homer Derby again, I will
bring my own beat, my own BP pitcher.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Okay, if I put out an over under a fourteen
and a half for year round against Danny Farquhar, do
we get.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Over that or do we get under under?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Danny Farquhar throws like power cutters lowan away from Righty's
and my Cameron, Mike Cameron came back and was like, Dude,
that dude's throwing cutters low and away.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I can't get that ball in the air.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
He hit a couple like line drives in the right
center gap and I was like, that's what you made
a career off, and man, that's why you're here this
weekend off of the home runs.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
All right, So I'm bring your own picture the next
time and we'll see a different result. I don't have
any doubt about that. I don't because I you know,
I was expecting you to dominate, and I think that
you would under the right circumstances.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's it went fast, like I gets sped up on
you quick in there, Like in the two minute time frame,
my legs were shot by about ninety seconds in. I
felt like I felt like there's a lot of things
that I just wasn't prepared for in that regard, where
you just kind of had to swing as hards a
can and hope you can hit it, kind of like
when I played Major League Baseball. To be honest, man,
swing hard in case you hit it.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, I'll say this, there have been actual home run
Derbys where all stars in the prime of their career
that have take batting practice every day didn't hit a
single one, and we had a picture hit three on
Friday night.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
So I Smith put on a show, put.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
On a great show, including yourself, so Fa, well done,
well done. All right, let's talk about the Mariners. Man.
You're a you're a player on this team and you
can't score runs, and it's no longer early and you're
seven under five hundred, and the Astros and Rangers are

(04:11):
playing really good baseball now, so it's not gonna be
easy to track them down. What's the what were the
conversations Sunday? What's the plane ride to New York like yesterday?
Where would the mind of a Mariner player be based
on current circumstances.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's a long flight across the country from Seattle to
New York. And usually the plane is where like the
most fun has had by the players, because especially you
go into an away city with an off day the
next day, it's a chance to play cards, to gamble
a little bit, you have some drinks, you're able to
kind of banter with the group, kind of take a

(04:53):
load off a little bit, and enjoy the moment. My
guess is that's what happened, because they're all in this together,
the good and the bad. So I hope that that,
you know, provided some connection. I remember there were seasons
when I even wasn't with the Mariners, one with the A's,
Like we would have cross country flights and there were
veterans out step up and make sure that we all
had fun on there and connected because the wins and

(05:14):
losses can be frustrating, and it's a long season, and
these are the dog days of summer, like we're getting
to the middle of August here creeping up to it
last six weeks of regular season, You've already played so
much baseball. Unfortunately, your numbers at this point of the
season are pretty much set. You can increase something of
the power production, but most of your numbers are set
for the year. Your focus shifts to all about the team,

(05:36):
everything we can do to win here, and then all
of a sudden, everything you do which isn't good enough.
A team like the Rays comes in in the red hot.
And if you saw the Rays game on Monday night
against the Sacramento Athletics, like they were down six to
two and they came back and scored eight or nine
runs in an inning, Like that's a team that's just built
different right now, the Mariners can be that they haven't
been that.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
But they can be that.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's just a lot of things, and it's a lot
of pressure on the pitching staff, which has been there
all year, but the offensive production it's a broken record
at this point. They're having a really hard time stringing
innings together. They're having a really hard time leaving the
yard winners on base, and it's just it's one of
those things where you're like, there's got to be an
answer that's clear, but it's it's not unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
What's wrong? I mean you've did this for a living.
I mean you tried to solve this impossible riddle for
years of your life and you know how difficult it is.
And yet I think you're with me. I think the
pieces are there to have a successful offense. But for
four and a half months, it's been terrible. So what's wrong?

(06:41):
As you lay your eyes on it? You're there in
the ballpark, You've called games. If you could, if you
were asked, Hey, Ryan, go in there and add something
to this conversation, what would you contribute to this to
get it going around?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
There's not much more than I could contribute that wasn't
presented this weekend with the amount of you know, Mariner's
royalty that was walking through those halls, those clubhouses, on
the field all week and long, like there was plenty
of energy provided for that team, and I felt like
there was moments when it was it showed up on
the field, but it just wasn't everyone. What my diagnosis

(07:19):
is is there's a lot of individuals on this team
trying to solve their own problems, and not enough people
that are taking teams for the taking of bats for
the team, and it's hard to take in it back
for the team when you don't feel like yourself as
a hitter, because you essentially feel lost, you don't know
who you are, and you step in the box, your
approaches all over the place. You don't have the confidence

(07:41):
in your swing to get to the pitches you normally can.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
You're taking selfish at bats.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Unintentionally, Chuck, unintentionally because you're trying to figure your own
problems out instead of the ability of like, what does
this team need to do today to beat this picture
on the mound. There doesn't seem to be that one
through nine unison togetherness on a daily basis where it's like, hey, guys,
this is what.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
We need to do to execute and win today.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
And I'm sure those conversations happen on a daily basis, Chuck, Yeah,
in the batting cage and the meetings they have on
a daily basis and offense, like those conversations happen. But
there's a lot of players that have underperformed this season,
which means they're stuck inside of like that Mason jar
and they completely forgot what makes them special as a player,
and they're trying to chase that former version of themselves,

(08:25):
and they have no idea how to be the best
version right here, right now.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's a great answer when it comes to being able
to adjust on the fly. I mean they're obviously their
identity is we hit home runs and we pitch well.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Sure, but.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
To have any other ability to score runs doesn't seem
to exist, and it doesn't seem like them the manager
presses those buttons to try to make you score runs differently.
Maybe we don't have the skill set as a roster.
I don't know what it is, but it does feel
ryan like if we don't hit two or three home
run or don't hit that three run homer, there's really

(09:02):
no chance to score runs. Can you adjust on the fly?
Can you fix that? Can you figure out mid season
how to be more productive when you're not going deep?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
My optimism wants to say yes, But my realism of
being a player is it's really hard. It's a tall order,
and to have the coaching staff or the manager step
in and start making decisions for your bats or with
your bats for you as a major leaguer now brings
in different emotions that you're trying to suppress. As you're

(09:37):
standing in the batter's box, meaning your ego, your personal career,
your personal stats, the next contract, you're trying to play
for a roster spot with this team or another team
next year. There's so many factors of being a W
two employee in the Major League Baseball, but it's operating
essentially as an independent contractor. You're essentially a ten ninety
nine that has a W two like umbrella over you,
but there's nothing guaranteed. There's some guys that have contracts.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
A lot of them don't.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So at that point, you're trying to make sure you're
going to be valuable enough for a team or for
this team next year, so you have a job while
also trying to make the best out of this season.
And I think the guys that are contracted long term
this on, this season and this team, they've underperformed and
they know that and they feel that pressure, and unfortunately
that pressure ends up growing internally for those superstars that

(10:24):
are underperforming and gets dispersed to others around them. I
feel like I got to pick up cal Rawly Slack
and I can't hit sixty home runs.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So how am I going to ever live up to that?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Ryan Healy is with us former Mariner part of a
Mariner's TV crew this year and joins us every Tuesday
at nine o'clock to talk some Mariner baseball. Give me
the number one reason why it is the right decision
to stick with Dan Wilson here down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
He understands how hard it is, and I feel like
at this point of the season to be really tough
to make a change, a managerial change, And the number
one reason being is, whoever replaces him, you're not going
to find the guy, have the opportunity to vet the
guy to know that he's the long term solution for
this club. So you essentially would just be making the

(11:14):
move to make the move to allow a voice already
internal to have more of a say. And if that
was the truth, then that voice would already be speaking
or would already be impacting or changing things. In my opinion,
if they were going to make that decision, it would
have happened sooner. I think this is this is Dan
Wilson's team for the rest of the season. What they
do after the season is completely up to them. And

(11:36):
the sad part for me though, is I've seen people good,
good people lose jobs over underperforming and when the expectations
are this high, whether they deserve that blame or not,
you see it happen because it's easier to replace one
person that is an entire roster.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
We'll make you a little uncomfortable. Then give me the
thing about Dan Wilson that you feel he should be
better at that that's been a problem this upcoming year.
I don't want you to just come across as you know, hey,
we got to stick with Dan former player, player allegiance.
Give me something about Dan that you feel has been

(12:16):
an issue if anything this up this past season.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It's a hard question, Chuck. I know it's a really
hard question. I know what my answer is. How I
say it matters a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think we all see the postgame interviews, right, yeah,
and they tend to blend together the pretty similar.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Pretty much the same thing, every game.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Same thing.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
So my my hope, because I don't know this for certain,
I'm not in those those rooms and what the conversations
are with the players, I hope that there is more
matter of fact and truth spoken behind closed doors, and
I hope that there's more accountability to what is actually
true and behind closed doors.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
It may be and it may not be working.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know that, but I do hope that there
is at least the truth being spoken from manager to
player or coaches to players about what's happening right now
throughout the course of the season. And I hope that
he's not relaying the same message that he is to
the media that he is to the team.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Mm hmm, yeah, I agree. I just said that a
little bit earlier in the show, said something very very
very similar to that, because I mean, players want their
manager to have their backs. They don't want them to
ever throw them under the bus in the media. And
I'll say, Dan Wilson he's one hundred percent of that.
I mean, two and a half years of him being
the manager of this team, I don't think he's ever

(13:43):
come even close to throwing a player under the bus.
And I know that goes a long way with players, But.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
That was getting praised all weekend long by Mariner's legends,
like his ability to have a player's back. You have
no idea how far that goes with the player manager relationship.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
All right, so you were around the team. I'm sure
you had a few conversations. I'm not sure how deeply
you probed, But do you get the sense that they
are on the side of we're gonna fix this, or
do you think some doubt has crept into this roster.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think there's belief, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think there's plenty of belief, and I think more
than anything, there's trust amongst player to player in this clubhouse,
mostly because they've they've proven themselves. There's not really an
unproven player on this roster. There are young players that
haven't had years and years of success Majoric level, but
at schunk glimpses of why they're there and why they

(14:39):
deserve to be there. I honestly believe that they're waiting
for that moment for it to click, and they've felt
that moment this season, not for a long stretch, but
for enough of a stretch where it's like, man, when
that version of this team shows up, we can beat anybody.
But there's also been a lot of weekends where they
play against the upper echelon team in the AL East,

(15:03):
the AL Central, some of these teams in middle of
the pack where they just don't show up at all,
and it's frustrating.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
But I do sense that.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
There's a lot of belief from player to player in
this clubhouse, and they do. They do believe that it
can come together. And I think there's time. At what
points is there not enough time? I think this is
a lot to do with how the AL has performed
as a whole this season, the fact that there even
is an opportunity, with how the wild Card race looks
like it's gonna come down to the wire, like no

(15:31):
matter what happens over this next nine game plus road trip,
like it's gonna come down to the wire. And I
think it's gonna be really entertaining. And how the Mariners
respond the last couple of weeks of the season last month,
The season is going to determine a lot of.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
That Yankee Stadium fun. Intimidating What is it like to
hit there as a Major League hitters or is it
just the same as any other park and you block
it up.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
No, there's an extra pep in your self when you
play Yankee Sadium. My first time ever was in twenty seventeen.
It was my first full season, but I played seventy
five plus games a year prior. And Ed Sprague, who's
a legend World Series champion of the Blue Jays. He
was working with the A's at the time, and I
saw him in Oakland the weekend after we played yank
Asada and he goes, was that your first time playing
in New York? I was like, yeah, he goes, Man,

(16:21):
you had a different pep in your step playing there.
It's just like you just feel like you're floating the
entire time. Like you get to go out early, all
the memorials they can have in the you know, the
slabs they have in center field to go see the
names that have walked through.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Not that stadium particular, but that organization.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It just it just feels different and it provides a
lot of extra energy, especially this time of the year.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You pissed them off.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
They games.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh they said some things that the radio. I don't
think you can get to your bleep button fast enough
if if I was able to repeat them. But like
it was, I loved that stuff, man. I loved when
the fans would get personal and chirp you with me.
It was always New York and Boston. They're right there
on top of you, and they had some choice words.
New York though, Like they showed up in BP and
they'd be chirping at you in batting practice. I'm like, guys,

(17:08):
the game's not for two hours. Can I like at
least get get loose and locked in a little bit
before you start, you know, telling me that my mother
is that you know what?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Like, just relax a little bit.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Ed Sprague, I mean, did you guys have similar games?
If I remember? Is that fair to say that you
and Edetrie?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was no nowhere near the player that Ed Sprague
was nowhere near. But he was a tremendous He was
a tremendous mentor to me and taught me like layers
of this game that were so deep in the onion
that I hadn't gotten to yet mentally, and he helped
me unlock. And he's a big reason why my twenty
sixteen you know season happened the way that it did.

(17:47):
I had such a chip on my shoulder. I was
mad at the world, and he helped me organize that
frustration to provide some purpose to what my pregame work
looked like, my postgame reflection looked like. And I absolutely
took my game to another life that year.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
See actually, Eman Ryan gets grumpy. I had a conversation.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
With her earlier.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think that everybody's just grumpy, grumpier than what they
used to be. What's something that makes let's close it
out with this, what's something all outside of sports, outside
of baseball, that makes Ryan Healey grumpy? The grocery store, traffic,
whatever the case may be. Give me something that makes
you grumpy.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's not often other people. I've gotten pretty good at
like letting people just do what they got to do.
If if someone cuts me off on the on my
way to work, like they value their time, Yeah, they
valuable time.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
They're more Russian I and.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
That's okay, But what about if they cut you off
and then they flip you off for it?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like that's on them even then, even though it's like,
you know what, they must be going something through, going
through something harder than I am right now. Okay, it's
just so listen.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
They might be.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
But even if they are, can I change them? I
don't have control over them, so I gotta let it go.
But what makes me really really grumpy? Chuck Cat really grumpy?
Missing my morning routine? I had a day last week.
It was my my daughter's second day of school. My
son we were taking him to his school for like

(19:14):
the introduction and my I forgot to set my alarm
completely on me, So I woke up at seven am.
My wife walks in and goes, hey, you mean to sleep,
and I was like, oh no, So now I wake
up just reacting to a four to two year old
and my wife who is a little emotional about her
baby boy going to school. So now I'm I'm absorbing
and reacting to everyone's emotions instead of waking up early
to regulate mine.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
And that made me really grumpy.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And it wasn't until about noon that day when I
finally realized, oh, this is all my fault.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Cool, now I gotta fix it.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Good process, Good process there, all right, man, Great to
have you on as always, and we'll talk to you
again next week.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
See you guys, have some fun today.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
The fantastic never grumpy Ryan Haley joining us right here
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Speaker 5 (20:09):
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Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, and uh, who was our other sponsor? I don't
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Speaker 5 (20:22):
I think you wanted to test me.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I just kind of got caught there. I'm like,
do I know, like, have you ever done that with
a person's name, Like really struggle with like the Kirsten, Kristen, Christina,
you know, that whole family. So I'll see a Kristin,
I'm like, oh man, it was is it Kristin or Kirsten?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
And I struggle with.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That a lot. So I just end up not even
saying the name.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
That's fair, just be like, hey, you do that or
is that just me?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I get that, and then I'm hoping somebody else mentions
it so then I can pick it up the mayor
for the rest of the night. But I always struggle
with that same thing with Griffin and Griffith. Always struggle
with those two. All right, Coming up next, some notes
from around the National Football League. We're getting ready for
preseason action on Thursday. Sports Radio ninety three point three

(21:12):
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Speaker 6 (21:12):
M oh hey, this is.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Sort of.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sort of a minor thing, but to a major player,
all right, I think it's I think it's breaking newsworthy.
I think that the sounder is very appropriate for the situation.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
According to John Boyle, you know that guy on the
inside over there with the Seahawks, that guy in the building.
SEAHORWKS safety Nick emon war pasted his physical today, an
important step in his return from the ankle surgery he
had last month. And so if you are feeling like
it suddenly got a little warmer here in town, it's

(22:27):
because Mike McDonald is smiling ear from ear the hear
to ear right now and warming up the entire Pacific
Northwest with his smile.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
I appreciate that, Mike.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
He's like Terry and who I got my emon Worri back.
He's one step closer him returning. Thank you, thank you,
thank you exactly. So obviously a few more steps to go,
not like we're going to see him play anytime soon,
but it is an encouraging sign and a step far forward,

(23:00):
and hopefully we get him all on the field ready
to go full strength for opening day against those New
England Patriots. But this is the next step in that direction.
All right, we were going to do some NFL news
and notes, and we're going to start with the Seahawks.
As some national guys observing Brian Flurry. And this is

(23:20):
something that all of our local guys have been reporting
and we've had numerous conversations about. But the takeaway from
Jeremy Fowler from ESPN in his time with the Seahawks,
and he had a few different notes, but one of
his takeaways was, get ready, Brian Flurry is about to
use this two tight end system a lot. That's his

(23:44):
big takeaway. And again, our local guys have been reporting
that for a while. But it was interesting that. I mean,
we saw Jeremy Fowler out at camp here the last
couple of practices, and his big takeaway is how much
the new offensive coordinator his little touch They all, anybody
knew wants to add their own little personal flavor to

(24:04):
any offense. Even though he's gonna take a lot what
Clint Kubiak did from a year ago, he's not gonna
mess with that. He's obviously gonna add his own personal flare.
And it sounding to me like that is the flare
that he's going to have. We're gonna see a lot
of double tight end, which means a lot of Barner
and Arroyo together in this offense. Which is a conversation
I keep trying to drum up with all of our experts, like,

(24:26):
somebody's got to lose out in this. You're gonna play
double tight ends and you're gonna lose the running back.
That's the thing we learned from Emmanuel Wilson. Flur He's
gonna use his running backs out of the backfield in
the passing game. He's got more routes than Emmanuel Wilson
thought were even imaginable for a running back. And so
if you're gonna use the running backs more frequently, and
you're gonna use two tight ends more frequently, then how

(24:48):
often are we going to be using three or more
receiver sets during the course of this season? Certainly a
fair share, but I would guess obviously fewer than what
we've used in the past.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, no, I would think so. And yeah, I mean again,
we don't have a full back. Yeah, I mean it's
gonna it sounds to me like it's gonna be really fun, right,
Like we're gonna have a lot of a lot of
things that we get to look forward to and see
and watch. I do get a little nervous because I
feel like in the past I've had some thoughts where
I'm like, Ooh, this is going to be a fun,
really exciting offense, and that's kind of black.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
But I don't think that's gonna be the case this time.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oh yeah, Well, we're all anticipating that. And the thing is,
we can't even judge Flurry. We can't even really get
a taste on Saturday because his playbook is going to
be so vanilla that we don't even We're really not
as as Hugh says, appropriately, So I don't know what
we have in Brian Flury until I start seeing him
call plays in a regular season game. We're not going

(25:50):
to know exactly what we have in Brian Flury. We
can't even start evaluating him until then, So it's a
long wait before we get there. Other news, how about
four ken Walker? Dan Graziano this morning reporting that get ready,
ken Walker is finally going to be used the way
that he always wanted to be used here in Seattle.

(26:12):
As a matter of fact, maybe even more so than
Walker bargained for. With Patrick Mahomes coming back from injury,
it sounds like ken Walker is not only going to
be a bell cow running back for them, So he's
going to be a bell that's already. Let's start there.
He's going to be a bell cow running back, which
is what he wanted to be here, but with Patrick
Mahomes and they're trying to like ease him back in

(26:35):
from his injury. He's on track to start an opening day,
of course, but they might lean more heavily on the
running game. So not only is Walker going to be
a bell cow, the Chiefs are at least going to
start the season with the plan of running more than
what they have in the past. And they are going
to use him on all three downs, so you know

(26:55):
they're going to use him in the passing game they
always have. So ken Walker is going to get his wish.
I mean, they're paying him a lot of money. Sounds
like he's going to be a three down back and
he only comes out when he wants to come out.
Ken Walker, they are preparing to be a bell cow
in the Kansas City Chiefs backfield.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Let's just see if his body can hold up to that,
because we haven't seen that proof yet.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
That is that is a great point, and I'm sorry
to break your heart with that, Kansas City fans that
are listening right now, because there are a lot of them.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Huge in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Jackson Dart got a standing ovation from his teammates yesterday
or two days ago, maybe it's two days ago for sliding.
Oh man, I'd be worried about that if I were
John Harbaugh. The fact that it's become a joke that
your quarterback who got what three concussions last year during

(27:46):
the season, because it was not all like it was
more you're right, and because he was just foolishly taking
hits to try to prove his toughness in the league.
And obviously that lesson has not carried over into this year.
If you've been two weeks into camp and finally Jackson

(28:06):
Dart sarcastically gets a standing ovation from his teammates for
finally getting the message and a practice and a practice
mind you, yeah, to hit the deck and slide. I mean,
once you get into games, you know that the adrenaline
is gonna go and the juice is gonna go, and
he's gonna think he can run through walls again. If
I'm a Giants fan that has already believes we've found

(28:29):
our quarterback, I don't think you've found your quarterback. Let's
see him get through four weeks without a concussion.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, wouldn't that be great before.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You've reached the finish line in thinking you have the
face of your franchise. I think that they have a
major issue on their hands getting it through to that
kid that he needs to slide, because apparently it goes
up against everything that his body is telling him to do.
They can't even get Scataboo to stop backflips on a

(29:01):
recently recovered knee. They got an issue with those two.
Those two are nuts.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Big time issue, big time issue.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
I mean I would be terrified as a Giants fan, like, oh,
come on, guys, just can you just not It's all
I'm asking.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Just just slide and don't do backflips. Those are not
hard things to ask.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Finally, the Dallas Cowboys always stirring the pot. I don't
know if Jerry Jones does this intentionally, it kind of
feels like he does. But obviously George Pickens only got
the franchise tag and they eventually talked him into being
okay with just getting the franchise tag. And then you
get two weeks into camp and they decide to give

(29:40):
all that money to Quinn Williams, their defensive tackle. Three years,
one hundred and five million dollars to Quinn Williams, and
there you know that there's a part of George Pickens
that's like, okay, wait.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Yeah, that's why I took that.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, I thought I thought I would be taken care of,
and then I was, and then you convinced me into
this one year thing. Like and if you think he's
gonna take it lying down because he's a big of
a problem, Ceedee Lamb has already spoken on his behalf.
Ceedee Lamb's always saying they better take care of George. Then,
I mean that conversation's already been conducted in the press

(30:20):
from off of this. And I'm not saying it's not
a bad idea too. I'm not saying it's a bad
idea that Quinn Williams got an extension, but man, it's
just weird. Like it's as if Jerry Jones like intentionally
wants to start inner turmoil over contracts and then if

(30:42):
it worked, I would say, well, keep doing it, but
it doesn't ever seem to work, but he just kind
of does it the exact same. Look, guys are gonna
get paid, some guys are gonna get paid now, and
some guys are gonna get paid later. But he certainly
I don't think made a lot of people happy that
he convinced Orge Pickens to take the one year deal,

(31:02):
and yet the newer player in town, Quinn Williams, did
get his extension and might be the right decision. Quinn
Williams seems like a lot more of a guarantee than
what George Pickens does. But he does find a way
toward creating controversy in his camp every damn year.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Without a doubt. I think he just he is a
full subscriber to any publicity. Is good publicity?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, that should be the title of his next autobiography. Yes,
And then I would also say I think it's fascinating
because man, for all of those that believe you win
in the trenches, you know, and we're seem to be
going more and more back to that again, like making
sure offensive line and defensive lines are taken care of first.
That seems to be where the National Football League's head is.
Where for a while it was about the edges, and

(31:47):
now it seems to be going back to the trenches. Well,
Jerry Jones been doing that for years. He really invests
in offensive line and defensive line, and he has invested
heavily and both right now actively, and yet again doesn't win.
So he's the ultimate guy that has never really stopped
believing and investing in the interior offensive line and in

(32:09):
the interior defensive line to create trenches, and yet they
don't win football games. So this will be a great
study and that argument to watch to see if the
Dallas Cowboys can break through with Quinn Williams and Kenny
Clark and then all of the interior offensive lineman they
tend to always have. All Right, coming up next, we'll

(32:31):
close out the show with one last thing. Sports Radio
ninety three point three KHARFM. All right, final segment of
the radio show here on this Tuesday. Chuck and Ashley
getting ready to close things out. Get you ready for

(32:51):
Greg Bell and Jessamin McIntyre. They're coming up next. Good
luck following up this show.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah we are. They're not going to talk about grumpy people.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
They're not going to hit all the hot topics. That's right,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
That's right. We already took the magic mirror, so suck on.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
That, right. I could tell he was jealous earlier, was like,
dang it, why didn't that come up? With a great
idea that probably is going to unlock your futures.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
I want to be I want to be fair.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I want to be in a think tank like Ashley.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
And Chuck have.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Sorry, job's taken.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, exactly, it's a two person job. Everybody's always known that.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Everyone, all right, let's close it out with one last thing.
What do you got ask?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I came across a very interesting story, and this involves
I don't know if you saw this. It's an article
on ESPN and the headline is golfer resigns from club
after admitting.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
To fake hole in one.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
So there is a golfer in Saint Louis and he
resigned his membership after playing in a tournament with you know,
he had his foursome his team. They went out for
their tea time. I guess on like whole three. He
pretended he had to take a phone call for an
ill relative and was like, I'll meet you guys. I'll

(34:13):
just tee off on four and I'll meet you guys
on the green, which one you're not allowed to do
in a tournament.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
So, I mean you have to tee off with other
people present.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
But when they came up there, He's like, I don't
know I finned it. I don't know where it ended up.
So they go over looking the cup. Sure enough, there's
the ball. They all start celebrating. They call the superintendent, Ugh,
and everybody's celebrating this hole in one in this tournament.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Only to find out the camera show he.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Drove up to the green, dropped the ball in the cup,
went back, acted like he teed off.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
What Yeah, why would you ever do that?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I know?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
And so then he's like, yeah, I had made a
moral mistake. You do something as dumb as I did,
there are consequences. So he resigned his membership. And then
he's like, I made a terrible mistake. You know, I
deserve that from a golf perspective, but I'm hoping that
I can, you know, write things and everything.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
No one's gonna ever want to play with you. You just
pretended you got a hole in one. You are now
a known cheater.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I mean, number one, how do you want to do
that without the satisfaction of having actually done it?

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Who even wants that? Secondly, now you got to buy
drinks for everyone and you didn't even do anything.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Well, a lot of times the club will pay for
the drinks. But yes, yeah it's And also, if you
hit a hole in one, people, somebody has to witness
it for it to count. You can't just go out
there playing on your own and hit a hole in
one and then go tell everyone I got a hole
in one.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yay me. Well that's gonna be aggressive. But here's my solution.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Banned from golf yep, forever. And he doesn't even get
to go watch it either. Yeah, can't play in it
and he can't watch it.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
You can't step on any golf course that your face
is gonna be on the uh at the outside of
every golf course for this guy, and he is not
allowed in your well done.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I think it's a fair punishment.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, especially for you. I mean how sacred you take it.
I mean you've named everything in your life after golf.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
It's true, It's really true. I'm the only one that
doesn't fit in.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, we can we can work on a nickname for you.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Okay, yeah maybe yeah, now you're easy.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Now you're excited about it.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, fairway, Ashley Bogie.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I'm just one more than anyone really wants.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I didn't know a bogey growing up, kind of like
that name.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
My God said's name is bo and it was.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
The joke was it was because he was one more
kid than his parents wanted.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
They love him now, but boy was he a terror
for a while.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, we'll work on that. I think we could come
up with something, all right, cozy, No, no, no, that
one wedge.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
There you go. Just call me Eric Weggie. It's Chuck
and Leggie in the morning.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Would you Jackie Mason? Caddyshack two worst follow up to it?
I never saw so bad? Don't watch it.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Was it worse than Anchorman two because I stopped that
one in the middle.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I think worse. But I didn't watch Anchorman two because
I heard they were bad reviews and I didn't want
it to ruin my Angerman one worse in any way,
so I didn't go watch it. That smart. Yeah, all right,
I'll close with this. I did mention this thus briefly,
and it came out of nowhere, and I an't think
Ashley knew what I was talking about. But so much
in the first half about how bad the American League is.

(37:32):
I got news for you. It's nearly evened out, Like
the National League has won less than fifty one percent
of their games so far this year, and the American
League has now won more than forty nine percent because
I got one percent difference between the two. There are
eight winning records right now in the National League. There

(37:53):
are seven in the American League or more even Yeah,
I told you this is going to happen. I said
it at the time. Remember I said, by the end
of the year, there will be two winning records in
the American League West, and there will be two winning
records in the National League Central, because at the time
there were five in the National League Central, and there
were I don't think there was any at the time
in the American League West when I said that, And

(38:14):
that's exactly where we're at. It averages out. Stop overreacting. Again,
It's a long season, and so we're gonna have to
earn this. Like the American League is not falling back further.
For the Mariners, told you you're gonna have to start
playing better baseball because a lot of other teams are
going to start playing the way they're capable of as
well in the second half. And they have the Red Sox,

(38:37):
the Astros, the Rangers, the Mariners just aren't playing as
well as they're capable of. But the American League is
getting better, stronger, tougher, and the teams have improved here
in the second half. So yeah, I mean it's still
not a bonanza. I mean, they're still not lighting the
world on fire, but they're over forty nine two percent

(39:00):
winning percentage to the National League's under fifty one percent.
So it's already evened out and it will probably even
out a little bit more before the season comes to
a close.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, I would think so.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
All right, that'll do it for us. Thank you very
much for being with us. We appreciate it. We'll talk
to you tomorrow at six am. Coming up next, Greg
Bell and Jessmine McIntyre. Sports Radio ninety three point three
kjr FM.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
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