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August 7, 2026 36 mins
Surprise! Surprise! IAN FURNESS joins Chuck and Ashley as we talk about the Mariners 50th celebrations this weekend, the home run derby and the promotions. What do the guys think of the celebrations this weekend? Ok, now to the worst Mariners… :30- NFL News & Notes - The Cardinals showcased Carson Beck last night and he did really well - Are the 49ers as injured as it seems and is the year those injuries finally catch up to them? - Aaron Donald worked out with the Rams- could he really come back? :45- We wrap up the Friday show with one last thing!

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh, look, he's gonna join us here for a little bit. Here. Ashley,
the great ad for NASS has joined us here at
our set here.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Way too early for me, way too early for me, guys,
way too early, yuh early practice.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I had to get here. I mean, I'm not on
the air till noon. Man.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I had to get here early and get my parking
spot before someone thieved it and somebody feed one of
our spots this morning at five o'clock this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's NFL network nerds.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
That right.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think wrap's here somewhere. He's told me who's going
to be.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Here today, probably Rapport himself. Can't see him, he's too short.
Man's all right, slash his tires.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Way, he's up there.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
He's up in Schneider's office right now.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Scolded.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know if you were drawn to Ashley and
I you had the opportunity to sit down with us
since you were coming out early, or were you drawn
to our topic.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was listening.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, I'm driving in, and first as right as I'm
pulling in, I hear the I hear Greg Bill. God,
I love the fact you brought up Jimothy. It was
so good because nothing like He's a pretty even keeled guy, Greg,
Greg Bell. The Jimmithy thing just sends him over the
edge and for you to bring it up was just
a classic moment. And now he's just he's driving in

(01:23):
right now, probably just muttering himself, Jimothy, Jimmothy. And then
you go from top players the worst players. I'm in
and I wanted to spend a little bit of time
on this with with Ashley Todavid.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I'll get your opinion on it as well, and then
we'll get into our text and our talkbacks here in
a little bit. Look, it's amazing that they knew that
Jimithy would be a runaway success Wednesday night, that you
sold out a stadium on a Wednesday with two losing records.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
By selling a card of a rack.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Wasn't a T shirt. No, wasn't a T shirt or
a chance to meet Jimithy or Jimmithy or it was
like that, Like I can see with cool giveaways, it's
a trading card for a deformed rack who rides, and
yet they got so they they give them some credit
that they can tap into what it is that people
are gonna respond to.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'll say that.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Chuck oh youth.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, listen, we spent a lot of time on
our show yesterday talking about this. I think it's it's
hard for fans to do this when teams aren't doing well.
But under like you have to separate the business side
from the baseball side or just whatever it's the business
side from the sports side of any organization, doesn't matter
what it is. I listen, I threw my own employer

(02:43):
into the bus, I said with the Kraken. I mean,
there's a lot of fans that get pissed off. They
say they spend too much time worrying about all the
common thread nights in their theme nights and this and that,
and look at this great practice years that you can Yeah,
they spent, but guess what those sell tickets. That brings
the on traditional fan in. It grows your fan base,
and they do a terrific job with it. That has

(03:04):
nothing to do those people that are brilliant there. They
have nothing to do with the fact that Jason Robertson
doesn't want to come and play here right, or that
Shane Wright can't take that next step and is getting
dangerously close to Jared Kelnick levels. I mean, that has
nothing to do with it. Same with the Mariners, right,
they do a great job on the business side.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Should they stop trying to get people to go to
the park for artificial reasons? I mean no, you know,
I mean it's not costing them any money, it's not
coming out of the player budget, you know. Should they
stop doing that just because it seems silly to die
hard baseball fans that just want a great baseball team.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
You can have both. You can have both. It's okay,
you can have both. Along the way, I think the
one thing with Silp, Like, my daughter is twenty nine,
school teacher, he's gonna be married soon, all these things,
and that made me feel really old met her, But
I remember her in college. Yeah, and you were here

(04:03):
when she was in high school, dude, Like that's so,
but yeah, it was. She's a diehard fan like and
and but she's not the norm for that age group,
right like she like I got a text from her
last night, you know, and she's going to the game
tonight and she's she goes, I swear if they're not
better tonight, like just losing her mind. I tell Kevin
Martinez this all the time. I said that you have
to find more of more Brianni's Now she's also irrational, angry.

(04:30):
She gets it all from me, and I get it.
She grew up a Mariner fan and a lot of
Mollywop tattoo She does oh yeah, yeah, Chris and natter
on her shoulder. The scary thing is she does have
more tattoos and Hell's angel, so that's fine. But so
she may have a Mollywop tattoo, if such a thing exists,
God help us. But no, she you know, she grew
up a Marrion fan and a Wazoo fan. What what

(04:52):
of course she's better. Yeah, but she's like she doesn't care, like, hey,
they're doing She didn't care about the promotions.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, she won't.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
She won't.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
She might spend an inning if she's got friends at
the ballpark and she's going out in Broland, out in
center field, but more than likely she's sitting there in
Section one forty two angry.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
But that's the fan you want. But you can have
that fan.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But to get the other fans to get more than
twenty thousand, you gotta have the provisions. And look, I mean,
the home run Derby's is gonna be fun, But I
don't want any part of it, I really, I mean,
and we got Bucky in it, we got Ryan Healy
in it, and I think the Ryan Rowland Smith thing
is funny.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
We finally gets see each.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Year row to a home run derby twenty years too late,
twenty five, right, But I think it's a clever idea.
It did come together. I was there when they were
trying to figure out will anybody want to do this?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
And they ended up with a really good group and
it should be entertaining.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
But I'm really not interested and I didn't grow up
fifty years of frustration of Mariner baseball and then Saturday
is gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
It's gonna be great. I mean, you were having a
fiftieth year celebration. What else are you going to do.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
You're gonna bring the top fifty Mariners of all time
and they get to tip their cap one more time
to the Mariner fans that rooted them. Those are all terrific.
It just comes at such a badrod time.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, I think someone mentioned it, remember Softy last night?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Soft and Fain, I think we're talking about this because
I hadn't thought of it either, And they were in
the midst of ranting about yesterday and Tuesday, I guess effectively.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
And they brought up because Julio's like the DJ.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yes, so so post game what postgame fireworks? Doesn't matter
who's light in the firework, right, you just do it right.
But if Julio's in charge of being DJ super Sam
out there, they better have super Sam. You just you
better have him on stand You better have him on
standby because what if what if Julio has an er
for four day, which is more likely than not these days, right,

(06:54):
I mean he'll he'll have a couple exit velos, A
one oh four, their foul chuck, but don't worry about that,
and the same that means nothing anyway, he'll have But
what if he goes over four and you get knocked out.
It's a five to one loss. It's gonna be hard, man,
It's gonna be hard. Yeah, A step closer to the grave.

(07:16):
And I do think, I go, I do think.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Forty six games to go, you're one hot week away
from erasing your deficit. So even if a loss tonight,
even if there's a loss tonight, it's still not over,
but it certainly does move you even closer to feeling
this team's just not gonna get it together, and then
you're going to have your biggest celebration in fifty years. Yeah,

(07:43):
while the maybe arguably the team that's best on paper
since at.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Least ninety five.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, even better than two thousand and one
on paper, Yeah, since nineteen ninety five is five games
under five hundred if they lose tonight, yeah, and we're
going to have a big party. Well, and you know,
unfortunately those are these can't plan for right, like exactly,
and I'm sure the yes throw a top fifty gathering

(08:09):
together at the last second. No, I'm assuming well, I
think you mentioned earlier when I was driving in.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I think it's right.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
When they were planning this out, there was no fiber
of their being that thought that they would be in
this position, right, Like, there's no way, Hey, we get
to August, we're probably sitting with a pretty decent lead,
Like we're probably three four up minimum, right, we're probably
in pretty good shape.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
People are feeling good.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Instead, you are where you are and then in the standings,
and then you look around and you say, what happened
to cal what happened? Like just go through the whole list,
right of all the things and there's nothing you can do.
I mean, I think it's gonna be a cool celebration.
I mean for those of us that grew up in
the in the area and you know, I mean, I
remember the first Mariners team. I remember, you know, Ruper Jones,
my first one of my first baseball He's my first

(08:53):
Seattle baseball hero. I'm old enough to have others from
other teams. Gean Tennis, for some random reason with the
A's was my guy. I like Gene Tennis too, not
as much as sal Bando. I played first place in Cotton.
He did the same thing. So and that's all we saw.
The A's were great back then. But yeah, no, I
think it's gonna be really fun weekend and marriage will.
Like anything else they do off the field, they'll do

(09:13):
it right. It'll be great. I just is Sean Figgins
on the list of these I hate efty guys.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I want to get let's get to that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Is he top fifty top fifty? Good or bad?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Definitely bad?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
But you know we're not Ashley and I are not
putting together a top fifty worst no players of all time. Yeah,
but if it ends up being that, I have no
control now I'm just asking for whoop see doodle. I'm
just asking for the worst of all time.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
So who is it worst Mariner?

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Whatever your criteria is for that, whether it's just somebody
that you hate, couldn't stand.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I got two.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'll give you the first one, which is an easy
when Seawan Figgins, Okay, they paid him a lot, he
never performed and might have been the most surly miserable
individual in Seattle sports. His like was just an absolute ass.
And you know, we have the cut somewhere he's been
for years.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You know, his like he's eating food he was. It's early,
it's early.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And just when he was he was chirping at Christian
Caple was with the p I i think at the time,
and Chris Crabtree were in there. He just, you know,
he picks on those guys. He just was a He
was a punk and and just a bad dude, right
and bad baseball player that got overpaid.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
My off the off the grid one if I can
do this.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
One, Bill Plummer manager, Bill Plumber manager, Oh boy, because
you you have, for the first time in your history,
not a playoff team, but a winning record with Jim
Lefever and you decide to fire him in after ninety one. Yeah,

(10:50):
and you bring in in nineteen ninety two Bill Plummer,
you promote him from within. He was your Triple A manager.
And now I know that there's a lot of people
in baseball at the time. Bill Plummer a rising star.
He's going to be this, he's going to be that.
He was Johnny Bench's backup, so he knows the game.
And they went from a good record with the fever
and kind of a trending up to this guy. Yeah,

(11:13):
and it just they had a one hundred some odd
last season. It was a massive disasters and now they
get lou out of it. But Bill Plumber, Bill Plumber,
Bill Plummer, that's an outside the box thought, Ashley, do
we have some talkbacks?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I like to Oh, yes, okay, all right, well let's
get some of those. I got mine, I know, let's
get some talkback.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Well, off the top of my head. Eric Bogard, he
was supposed to be something great and wasn't and had
a really crappy attitude, refused to play past five innings.
Comma Scott Spiezia, who came here and sucked and then
blamed the Mariners for him sucking. And then I was
never a fan of Jesse Winker. Didn't like that guy,

(11:56):
didn't like how much other people liked him.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think that was a shot that Eric already got here. Eric,
that was coming up a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'll take him over boy him. And he was also surly.
Oh yeah, god, I can't.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Well, he'd pull himself out of games. He'd be like, no,
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Well, he was nine to five, like it's it's he'd
look up and wherever we are in the game, if
he's near one hundred.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Pitches, he's done.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Right, if it was today's Eric, Eric Dartey, probably eighty pitches,
right right, exactly, seventy sixty five French Canadians.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
You can't trust, all right, let's get another one.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Not real Canadians by far, the worst mariner on the
field shown figures for how good he thought he was,
his ego and the person he was, he was junk,
the worst mariner.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
I'm going to stop it there because I don't want
to get in trouble for the next part.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Oh, oh, okay, they insulted someone like in the in
the involved with the team currently?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Oh why did they?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Feel free to text Chuck and I who I could
just tell it.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
I mean, I could tell you. I don't want him
to brate somebody. Oh it was Dan Wilson. Well, he
was talking about him as a manager as a player.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Okay, Dan Wilson is not as bad as Bill Plumber people.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, I mean, I mean this, This guy clearly knows
I I already called for Dan's job, but he's gonna
be honored tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Is one of the fifty greatest.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Who was the first one he said there before Spiezio
was Sean.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
It was Sean Figgins, but he called him shown Figgins.
There was another guy that called him Shoon Figgins and
was like, I want to call him something else. We've
gotten a lot for Colton Wong. By the way, a
lot for Colton Wong.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think that's definitely in play. And that's another one
that I thought, Hey, I get that.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't think that's a bad signing.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I was on board with that, and I could not
He was a four war player when he got here
from the previous year and showed up and couldn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
He was a gold glove defender, showed up, couldn't even
play defense.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Chuck, can you do can you can you guys do
like like if we're at Emerald Downs right now, you
can like you can bet the field or something sometimes,
right can you do like the Jerry Depoto specially hit
her field like they can hit left handers and or whatever.
We could put Lostella, Pollock, Wong, ref Snyder. I'm missing

(14:20):
somebody else but those guys. Nathan Bishop has a tracker.
He was doing a tracker this year with ref Snyder
versus I think it was Pollock, maybe it was Lostella.
I don't even know if they're I think they're the
same person. But anyway, he was doing that tracker with it.
Ressner didn't quite catch them, by the way, was just
Lostella was just a veteran late ad.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, we we can't put him in that group, but Garber,
ref Snyder, Pollock, Wong, Wong, Yeah, can all be put
in that.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I feel like we're missing somebody, were missing one of those.
It feels like there's like two of those guys every year.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Who are we missing?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh uh uh Donovan Solono, Yeah, gosh, he's gotten quite
a few.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Votes for him.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's the field, that's your field, that's like, that's like,
oh God, yeah, he's having some ice cream leave.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Alone from Jesus Montero. Anyone wanna buy it from me?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I think he did. Yeah, I think that is an
amazing item to have.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I remember that trade I didn't trade was Panada.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I like that, and I don't think anybody in baseball did,
except the fact that like, well they're trading from depth
and they need power. And then all of a sudden,
jack Z just started drafting everybody that could hit a
home run, whether they'd even played baseball before, and that
was his undoing.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Was chasing power, corner outfield power. That's all he was
drafting for like a decade. It was worse or Jacks Why.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I think jack Z was.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Jack Z was actually like trending well, and then that
Pana trade. He was just chasing power. And then he
and up like blowing like three.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Drafts in a row, astulely. Who is your pick, by
the way, I don't think I've gotten it.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
It was Sean Figgins. Yeah absolutely, I just think he
had the worst attitude. Andy wasn't good and it was
really irritating.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
All Right, I'm gonna throw one mind a little more
like technical okay, because I didn't carry the emotion for
fifty years that you guys have. So I did a
little research, as you might expect, and I might have
to submit Carlos Silva.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Oh, you've got some supporters on the text line there.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Who had a six four to six RA in his
first full season and an eight six EER the next
year on a one team that lost over one hundred games,
and then another team that fixed.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Itself after he left.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Oh god, he had eight point five WAR for his career,
which suggests that he was good somewhere else, but here
he had in a season and a half as a
spot as a starter, I guess, Yeah, he had a
minus three WAR in a season and a quarter uh

(17:00):
here as a pitcher, So I think maybe.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
He's the worst Mariner of all time.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Wow. Well the bad thing about this, and I got
support on.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
That a lot.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
There's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
As soon as you said as soon as you said that,
as long I might nod in my head, I'm like, yeah, good,
good call.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I don't know what this research stuff as you talk about.
That's not part of our policy. How you make me
feel in the moment, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Whatever your criteria are, but wow, this every organization could
do this little exercise.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
And these guys could we could hear. I mean, it's
not like they every year exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
You could. Maybe we'll do that next week.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean there's a whole bunch. I go through the
list for that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Although he was like Rookie of the Year or something,
where wasn't I mean for where he was, for where
he was drafted, Yeah, expect I mean, I mean you
go through all their high draft.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Curry though higher than Yeah, I mean Aaron Curry.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Which I hate that because he's a good dude and
he's turned into a terrific coach in the NFL. I
think any quarterback they drafted high seems to be bad, right,
whether it was staffer Dan McGuire meyer, those guys were
all supposed to be the saviors and none of them were.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
And yet there's still a player out there that just
contributed negative.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
That would be.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Jamal's definitely on the list.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Were you thinking of somebody else? Its recency biased, but
that would be Jamal. I think.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Softy's tweet the other day was like, Brian Wu on
the home at home, Cam Chancellor, Brian.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Wo on the road, Oh my god, that's that's that's
that's it, because my least favorite Seahawks and I moved here.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I think he was.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I mean, I think it's easy to maybe not the
worst player, though probably probably he was a demand.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
He was.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
He was the start of the n P. Oh yeah,
that was the start of the NP. Like that's and
he can and locker room is on at twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
He was the reason.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
He and the whole just the poison pill that he was.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
But yeah, that's a good one actually because Brian Wu
on the Road doesn't pitch the con doesn't like contact,
doesn't pitch to contact. Brian wood Holm all about contact.
So Cam and Jamal is actually a great comp I
don't think so if you looked at that deep.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
But Brian Wu is on the best fifty Mariners of
all time. Brian wu on the Road twenty twenty six
is on the worst.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Mariners you don't want to be was showing Figgins and
Eric Padard, Bill Plummer, Silva.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
God, that's a great poll.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
I'm sure we have many others. Thank you very much
for your contributions. A little fun with that, Thank you man,
that was fun.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Gad you stop by all right, coming up next to
NFL News and notes for you.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think that we need to brush up on our
NFC West Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A
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Speaker 3 (19:57):
That was nice of me and the stuff by what
a fun surprise.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, he got sucked into our segment and our topic
and uh and yeah that was fun.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
That was good conversation. And we're not done with your feedback.
I know Ashley's telling me we got a lot more
of the talkbacks. We'll try to get to more of
those coming up before the end of the hour. But yeah,
I'm not surprised. Here's what I'm not surprised by that
people sunk their teeth into this one.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Actually, I'm not surprised either. We've gotten quite a few suggestions.
We got most mostly text, lots of people on the
text in the YouTube chat wanting to share their opinions,
and a lot of people agree with what we have said,
like the suggestions we had all made.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
And somebody even.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Went as far as saying we should have a bracket
and it's not a terrible idea.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Really not, it wouldn't be actually a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
And I told Ian, I said Ashley and I, Uh,
we're gonna launch this if you guys want to take
it from here, if Greg wants to take it from here, yeah,
and and hand it to the end and then softly.
Who knows how big this idea gets. But we just
wanted to start with your least favorite or the worst
Mariner of all time. And we've gotten a lot of feedback,

(21:08):
a lot of feedback so far. We'll get to more
of that coming up in a moment, but I did
want to bring up some NFL news and notes because
there is some really interesting stuff going on around our
division last night, particularly the Cardinals showcase Jordan excuse me,
Carson Beck for the very first time, and he performed

(21:30):
really well. And that's really what this season's going to
be like for the Arizona Cardinals. They're over under in
Vegas as three and a half wins. I mean, that
is as low as I can remember a team starting
a season, Yikes, where they're over undertotal. I mean it's
usually like the standard for the worst is four to

(21:51):
four and a half five that's usually the standard. They've
got them at three and a half wins going into
this season, and so this this year really is because
about them identifying whether or not they have their quarterback
and whether or not they have their head coach.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's what this season's going to be about. And if
they could somehow solve the quarterback issue, if Carson Beck
ends up being something that they feel. Now, keep in mind,
this is the guy I was never really impressed, even
when people were saying he's going to be the future
number one overall pick in the draft.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I wasn't buying it at the time. But that's where
a lot of mel Kipers of the world were projecting him.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
After his first couple of years at Georgia and then
of course he slides a little bit at Georgia, has
to transfer to Miami, and then goes to the National
Championship game for goodness sake and restored his stock a
little bit. They end up getting him in the third round.
But this is somebody not long ago that people thought
was going to be a future number one overall pick
in the draft. So if the Cardinals can find out

(22:56):
that Carson Beck is their quarterback this year, man, that
takes a big load off of them. Then again, uh,
if they don't discover that, which maybe a lot of
Cardinal fans are rooting for, and they're gonna have a
down year, then they have the opportunity to get somebody
that actually is one one of a draft that actually

(23:19):
is coming out of college on a heater and coming
into the National Football League with you know, Fernando Mendoza
like expectations. So this year will be about whether or
not we've hired the right coach and whether or not
we Carson Beck could be our quarterbacks are probably the
two most important things actually that the Cardinals are going
to try to.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Figure out this year.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, and if they end up having their quarterback, well,
then people are going to say, oh, well, maybe that
edition of Jeremila wasn't as crazy as we thought it was.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, and then and then if you still end up
being bad, but you found your quarterback and you have Love,
who they've already announced he's not gonna have a huge rule.
He's not going to be running back one this year
because they're gonna they they realize they're not gonna win
this year. We're not gonna waste bullets on Jeremiah Love
until we're ready to be better. And then by next year,
you know, maybe we're we've got a different story, but

(24:10):
you can determine we've got Love. We're not gonna overuse
we found back, and then if we end up with
a high draft pick, maybe even the number one overall
pick next year, and get Jeremiah Smith out of Ohio State,
now all of a sudden, you got something cooking if
you're the Cardinals. So certainly this is gonna be a
learning year, trying to figure out what we have that works,

(24:33):
and then just getting rid of as much as we
can that doesn't work. In the offseason San Francisco forty
nine ers man, there was an assistant coach that kind
of went out his way to tell everybody in the
last twenty four hours, we're not as injured as what
people are telling everyone. The stories are exaggerated, that they

(24:57):
have their normal nix and bruises of training camp, and
that's really all that it is.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
But the stories are really large, like they are.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Bold statements that twenty forty nine ers are already hurt
in their camp, and if you remember to a year ago,
it's the reason why I thought they weren't going to
be good last year. I just don't think their players
can stay healthy. I mean, yeah, Bosa Warner, Williams, Kittle,

(25:28):
McCaffrey when they have them all together, still a dangerous team.
Those are you know, potential Hall of famers that they
still have, But that's been years since they've.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Been able to keep those guys healthy on a consistent basis.
And my guess is that it won't be the same
guys that are hurt all season long, but two or
three of them. I don't think that they can stay healthy.
And I don't think it has anything to do with
a substation, but maybe it does.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Maybe.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
And if you're already, you know, kind of hamstrung by
a bunch of injury plague players and you've got twenty
injuried players already one week into camp.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I predicted that the forty nine ers were gonna crash
and burn last year.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
They didn't.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think they're going to this year, though I would
rather be a year early on a prediction, Ashley, than
a year late. I think the forty nine ers are
getting ready for some really hard times, and I think
they're finally gonna feel those effects in the win loss
column this season.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Yeah, it's felt like they're kind of like cockroaches, right.
They've just been able to survive anything and still be successful,
and most teams it would completely crumble you the injuries
that they've dealt with over the past couple of years.
And I thought last year too they were gonna suck,
and boys this year it did not. So yeah, I
hope they suck this year, but not in Game one.
I want them to be great in Game one because

(26:49):
they're in Australia week early and they're gonna trounce the
Rams and then they can suck after that and.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Their injury history there, they'll probably have like eleven players
get bit by one of those gigantic Australian like wolf spiders.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Perfect, exactly Australia. They need to be around things that
are bigger than my head that can eat me.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
They'll get in the wide receiver tent and take them
all out. And then I did want to mention something
about the Rams as well. Obviously the story there is
Aaron Donald. He worked out apparently blew everyone away. I'm
not surprised by that. I'm just going to reiterate something
I said earlier about Aaron Donald. I don't think he's
coming back to win a Super Bowl. I mean, if
he wanted to win another Super Bowl, he would have

(27:28):
come back at some point last year and joined that team.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
And maybe would have been the difference.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Considering how close the Seahawks and Rams were in their quality,
he might have been able to make the difference. I
don't think it's about him winning another super Bowl. I
think Aaron Donald wants to scratch the itch that what
kind of a player could I be if I'm not
getting double triple teamed on every single play? And if
Miles Garrett is there, he's at least going to get

(27:56):
a double team, which means I won't be triple team.
So I would like to see, while I still am
young enough to do it, how great a season I
could have if I didn't have to deal with the
frustration of every offense building their game plan around keeping
me contained. Yeah, So in order to be that though

(28:17):
two years removed, in order for him to find that out,
he's gotta be the same Aaron Donald that he was
when he retired, and after two years that might be
an impossibility.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And so I think this is what this is all about.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
They might be impressed by him, and they might say, Wow,
I can't believe how good you look considering you were
two years out. That's not gonna be good enough. Donald's
gonna need to hear and gonna need to feel I'm
every bit the player I was when I hung it
up two years ago. Otherwise I'm not gonna come back.
I really honestly believe that. That's how I'm reading the

(28:54):
tea leaves right now, so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
I'm not surprised at all that he looked great in
the work out for a guy that's been away from
the game for two years.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
But my gut is.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
He's not gonna come back unless he's the exact same
player in his head that he was when he retired
two seasons ago, and that might be an impossibility. All Right,
we're gonna close out with one last thing. Next, we're
gonna get to more of your text and your talkbacks,
which have been great. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Fifteen, Bad News, the worst one ever, Bobby Ayaa, the
shortest to the point song ever written. It's pretty great, Yeah,
pretty good stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
We've been asking today not for the top fifty. You
can put that list together on.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Your own based on all of our individual suggestions, but
we are looking for the worst Mariner of all time.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Let's get to some more here.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
Ashley the worst Seattle Mariner of all time is Howard Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Went up to the executive off.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah yeah, now, yeah, yes, once upon a time that
was pretty bleak.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
The organization was run horribly. I'm gonna say this for
everybody that puts this group into that category. Ashley, well,
five straight.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Winning seasons, come on, yeah, I mean this is like
the best run in Mariner's history. And you're and some
people are comparing it to you know, same old management,
same old ownership, which I think is blatantly unfair.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
No, this team, this group at least wants to keep
the team here.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean extended cal role, extended Julio Rodriguez. They're
doing things that did not that did not have anything
to do with the past.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Trade for Castillo, gave him an extension. I mean yeah, yeah, yeah,
good things. All right, here's our next one.

Speaker 8 (30:56):
Hey, they're checking Ashley, and you asked for the worst manner.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Man.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
First one that comes to mind shown Figgins, and I'd
love to call him something else, but god, that guy suck.
And I am done with the Mariners this year.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Oh he's just angry.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Close to that with the Gohawks. Another figure, I think
Figgins might have been our overall winner.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yeah, it sure seems like it because that sticks. And
I told you earlier. I think that is Honestly, I
didn't think about it until we started talking about the
worst Mariners. I think that is why everyone gets so
mad when we say it's early. Huh yeah, yeah, all right,
here's our last one for today.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Happy Friday show.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
Worst Mariner since he just got his own Mariners baseball card.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Jimothy the worst.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Oh poor Jimothy.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Come on, jud They didn't ask for any of this.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
He's a victim.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's the most humble celebrity in town right now.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I've never seen him once like asked to be led
to the front of the line at the local club.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
He's just he's never said don't you know who I am?
Anywhere in town?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like He's humble, and he's sweet, and he's kind, and
he he sold out a stadium without even being in attendance.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
What other Mariners, not even Kan Grivey Junior has done that.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
I'd say he might be the best Mariner. Look what
he did? Uh?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
What else did we get? Jeff Sarillo?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
But there were a lot of Eric for Gard's. There
was one for Fernando Rodney. I didn't agree with that one.
I mean he has moments. Yeah, he had his moments
as of you know, like the Fernando Rodney experience was
definitely an experience.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
He was actually a good closer. He just yeah, I
mean it was just every it was every game he
had to put people on base. But there were a
couple of seasons there where he was getting he was
saving a lot of games for you.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Yeah, he got out of it. It just was an
experience to get there. Dustin Ackley, We've got some for
Dustin Aclee.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Well, that's that's definitely a criteria thing because he certainly,
you know, wasn't the worst player. No, but considering the
hype and the expectations and that could have been Strasbourg
if we would have just not won that last game.
Uh kind of thing that that you dealt with. I
can see why people have a bad taste in their

(33:26):
mouth about him.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
We got one suggestion for Chris Bosio, which I can
understand because Chris Bosio is an anomaly. Right, he wasn't
a very good pitcher, but then he threw a no hitter,
So then what do you do with.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
That that eliminates them?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, yeah, you can't make a history like that. And
then and then h yeah, there's there's no way he
could be.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
The worst, right.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
A lot of people for Coulton Wong too, So there
were a lot of Clton Wong.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
That's I can't deny that. I mean, some of these
guys that I know, I did throw some support behind.
It looked to me like they were good signings and
should be contributors to Mariner's success.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
But this litany of Wong and Salon, well, not Solano.
I never liked Solano. I hated that siding.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
But Wong Garver ref Snyder. Yeah, I thought that Pollock.
I thought they were gonna work and they just blew
up in their faces, didn't do anything. They were terrible
players here.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I've got one.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, I don't have an argument.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
I've got one more. One thought this was bothering me earlier.
It's like, who was that Eric Burns He the suicide squeeze,
then wouldn't talk to the media after the game, then
rode his bike out of the clubhouse like his beach cruiser,
and then almost crashed into Was it Jacksonenzick at the time, Uh, yeah,
it was Jacksonensick at the time almost crashed his bike

(34:47):
into Jack riding his bike out of the stadium, and
then was released two days later.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And he still to this day talks about how crappy
Seattle is.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
So you can add that to the list.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Of he's with the E and of bananas.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So yeah, and you get what you pay for for
the Eric current.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
He was actually a very productive Arizona diamondback when I
was living there. Strangely enough, but I think everybody everywhere
else he's been, he's rubbed everyone the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, I know he did here in Seattle as well.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
All right, that'll do it for us. Thank you very
much for joining us this week. Appreciate all the feedback.
That was a lot of fun here today. I don't know,
maybe Greg picks the baton up from here and keeps
it going. We'll see, but good conversation. We appreciate it.
Have a great weekend, Mariners, have a great weekend this weekend,
win some games, have fun with your celebrities. Good luck

(35:39):
to our boys Ryan and Bucky on the home run
derby tonight. I hope it's a wonderful weekend for the organization.
Despite the fun that we had at some of the
player's expense. Here today on the radio show.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
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three KJRFM.

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