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that we call the franchise. In this radio station. He
handles the six to ten show each and every day,
Chuck Powell, Andrews is busy talking to him down the air.
Andrews is not listening to anything I'm saying right now because.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
He's talking to Chuck. Chuck, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Does your producer pay more attention to the show than
than my producer is paying attention to you right now?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Chuck?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
She he was having a long conversation with me off
the air. We were having a good time.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Evidently they were having a long coverge which you might
sharing what the.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Cop four o'clock sem yeah, segments.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Jesus, Oh, Chuck, how are you, man?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I'm good. What's going on? No?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nothing, Evidently you and anders are having a hell of
a conversation off the air while I'm trying to talk
to you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So that's what's going on.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, Apparently someone's making light of the grit of soccer
players on our radio station, and I'm wondering what's going on?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And does that bother you?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Chuck?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What's your feelings?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, I've been very impressed with Killian and Boppe, but
he's kind of a baby, to be quite honest.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Baby, Okay, I like that I like that. Oh well,
Chucky didn't.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Like the bones are unbroken all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's pretty good. Well, we didn't have you on to
talk soccer.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
We had you on to talk a lot about this,
this frustrating Seattle Mariner baseball team, and Chuck. This this
last series has just been a microcosm of a good
chunk of this season. I mean, were the Mariners of
the prior years this frustrating at least in like particularly
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the sloppiness of how they're going about doing things. I mean,
you pointed out that there was a you know, a
gaff in every single one of these games, the West
and Wilson gaff in Game one, the Cole Young gaffing
Game two, and the Colt Emerson gaff in Game three.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I mean, it just doesn't seem.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
To me that the prior iterations of the Mariners this decade. Yeah,
they pissed us off, but they pissed it up usually
because they couldn't hit the baseball, not because they looked horrible.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Uh well, I think maybe, yes, you might there's some
truth to that that this might be a sloppier version
of the recently frustrating Mariners. First half baseball teams but
I promise you these are I mean, we've gone through
worse frustrations in the first half of Mariners seasons and
the Jerry Depoto era. I don't know why this team
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plays so poorly in the first half, and you're right,
it's usually because of offensive woes or a couple of
years ago. Is it starting pitching or was it last
year starting pitching injuries that are rare for this organization
that they had to work their way through a season ago,
and this year again, it's just another example of another
team that is having a hard time getting into a groove.
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And yet I guess the silver lining and all of
that is they haven't really put a hole for themselves.
As frustrating as we all are again about a Mariner's
first half, unlike past years where you were looking at
it's games under five hundred at this time of the year,
or eight games back of the Astros at this time
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of the year, your half being game out of first place.
For goodness sake, it's a good thing that the American
League has been down, but it's not going to stay down.
There's going to be a lot of American League teams.
You've already seen it. The Tigers are back on track,
the Red Sox are back on track. The Blue Jays
are going to be better in the second half. So
you're going to have to pick your game, there's no
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question about it. I think they will because as much
as they've repeated embarrassingly frustrating first halves in the Depoto era,
they've also almost every year got hot in the second half,
and so I'm just anticipating that that's going to happen again.
I think that they're the most talented team in the
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American League. Went I think that the most talented team
in the American League, and I'm just gonna trust that
they're going to get it together after the All Star
break and start the process of pulling away.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, we've got.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
History on your side, and Chuck Powell with us are
our anchor of the six to ten morning show, as
you all know, and I'm just curious when I hear
you know, you know, I try and look really closely
at a underperforming baseball team, and I know that on
some of these games, you know, the description is that
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it's listless or you know, they're just not non competitives,
as if as if the players are kind of semi
checked out, like they're just a competitiveness problem. And I
think for me it's hard to identify that because baseball
is unique in it. Well it's actually it's not a unique,
but baseball is.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
It.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, if you're up there at the plate and
you have a bad at bat, is it because you
don't care or because maybe you care too much and
it's just hard to hit. You know, a guy misses
a free throw, is it because he's just non competing
or is it because you know, maybe he's just a
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little tight and he doesn't feel comfortable at the line.
Like I find it hard to always to identify the
difference between poor baseball and listless baseball. What's your thought
on that?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I mean, I don't think and it's really hard for
me to go to like it being an effort problem.
I do think this team sometimes lacks focus. I think
Josh Naylor is key among them. Yes, the double play
that turned into an air in five runs last night
was started because Josh Naylor bobbled the ball and Colt
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Emerson's timing was off coming across the second base bag.
I think that when you are especially struggling offensively, it
comes off as if you're not really giving full effort.
But if you're not getting on the base paths and
making things happen, then it kind of may play that
way as listless. But I think there is a focus
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issue with this team, and to me, that stems from management.
It really does. And I'm not saying that Dan Wilson's
got to sit there and give a Herb Brooks raw
Ross speech or closed door meetings or anything like that.
But a manager's job in the modern day, more than
at any time really in baseball, because there's so much
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strategy that's been taken away from a manager. We don't steal,
we don't, I mean, excuse me, you don't really call
for the steal. Everybody's got a green light. Josh Naylor's
never gotten a stolen based signal an entire life. You
run the analytics, taking away a lot of the strategy
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that the manager employees. So they're single purpose, their single job,
and what they're judged by is the talent that I
give you. You've got to make the most of it.
And there's no question that he's not. They have not
played to their capabilities, and so to me, some of
that lack of focus and that listlessness that we perceive.
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I mean, I got to have a manager somehow ringing
that out of them, and I've got to get them
playing better baseball. And I think that some of this,
you know, lackluster accusations, accusations of playing lackluster, will start
to fade away. But I don't think it's effort. I
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think it's more focus. And if it's focused, I think
that that falls on manager, coaching staff, and certainly the
players as well. But something's got to change a little bit,
because it does seem like they field they're kind of
taking it for granted that things are going to work
out instead of making them work. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I just want to follow up on that because because
when you say the Naylor and look, I'm perfectly, you know,
prepared to to accept that you're right in this, but
I just want to challenge a little bit, Chuck. And
because you're you're the station's baseball dude, we all kind
of defer to you. And I would say that if
you're saying, well, Naylor bobbled the ball at the onset
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of the would be double play. Did he bobble the
ball because he wasn't focused? How can we infer that
maybe he was too much focused. I mean, I've thrown
to wide receivers and coached wide receivers and sometimes they
drop the ball. Now it's my job, I can I
kind of. Sometimes it's because they're looking, you know, the focus,
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they're looking to make run after the cats, they take
their eye off the ball. But sometimes they they want
to catch it so bad and they they're wigged out,
they're trying too hard and they drop it out of nerves.
Like So, just because he bobbled it doesn't mean he
was He wasn't focused right.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Right, no, no question about it. And maybe that's a
bad example. But I think everybody listening, and I think
both of you would agree that he's had a number
of issues this year. He's like side armed things and
thrown balls away and kind of look like he was
not fully committed to digging balls out of the dirt.
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And then you know, the next three he'll dig out beautifully.
So I think that there's been a pattern of this
with him. And so maybe last night's play was just
a simple bobble of the ball and it threw off
the timing of Emerson and it led to the five
run inning. But I do believe when you've created a
pattern of sort of what appears to me like lackluster play,
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then I'm going to start attributing thing or I think
that's more of what I've written to the entire First
is that sometimes this team on the bass pads, not
just defense on the bass pads, lazy at. That's I mean,
even Cal had a lazy at that the other night.
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I mean, you know, up two to oho in the
count and everybody in the league is trying to beat
him with fastballs up and in. And if you're up
to to ozho in the count late in the game,
down one, the most important thing for you to do
is to get on base. And I'm not saying he
shouldn't swing on two to oh, but get your pitch.
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Don't swing at the pitch. They've been trying to get
you out with this entire season. And yet he does
that and he flies out the right field. I mean,
that's not an effort thing. He obviously wants to come
through in that situation for his team, But that to
me is the lack of focus that's not doing the
job at hand in that moment. And I think JP
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Crawford's been guilty of lazy at that's I think that
we've seen a pattern of this with this team, other
guys more so certainly than cal or JP. But I
think that we've seen a little bit of a pattern
of either lack of focus or lack of not understanding
the moment, and it is frustrating. And I think that
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it's grown over this entire first half and as been contributor,
maybe not a contributor, to why this team's sitting here
at five hundred and not ten games over five.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Hundred, Chuck, it seems like the piggyback is done, at
least for the time being, maybe forever, we don't know.
Depends maybe on the trade deadline and what happens there.
Did it help, did it hurt? Or did it have
no impact on the starting rotation? Because do you take
away the Miller and the WU starts the last few games.
I mean you go back like twelve games, and about
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nine or ten of them have been really good.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I think more good came from it than bad. Like
you said, Miller and Castillo both pitched well in those games.
You did get to save your bullpen a couple of
times for a night through those rotations. While it was
an action, the drawback to it is when a pitcher
is rolling and you know he's got a lot of
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gas left in his tank, just because you committed something
before the game, it's really hard to see that starting
pitcher come out of the game. And I think that's
when they chose to abandon it. I mean, they were
going to do it a couple more times, and they
looked at Logan Gilbert's most recent starts and the dude
suddenly on a roll, and like, we don't want to
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be in that situation again, like we were with Miller
back in the Boston game. So I think some good
things came of it, and believe me, it was no
permanent solution. It was sort of a creative way to
solve a good problem. Too many good starting pitchers for
too few of spots. But I'm ready to move on
from it. And what's crazy about it is that we
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knew when Bryce Miller was activated who the sixth best
starting pitcher on the roster was, and it was Castillo, right.
And I think we've gone through piggybacks and six man
rotations and all sorts of other things just to arrive
at the conclusion that Luis Castillo is the sixth best
starter on the roster, and I think they're going to
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reset the starting rotation for a five man rotation coming
out of the All Star break. I could be wrong.
I don't have any inside information, but I gotta believe
that's the direction that they're heading in. And I think
Castile could be a fine reliever. I think he embraces
the role, could be effective, and so I'm hoping that's
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what they do. I can't imagine they're going to continue
with the six man and I can't imagine they're going
to experiment with the piggyback anymore.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Chuck foul with this. So, Chuck, I'm gonna put you
in the position in Jerry Depoto's seat behind his desk
from now until the end of July. You love that,
you let you want you, Okay, So you're in there,
your unilateral decisions in every regard lineup. Now, if you're
gonna make trade proposals, make him be reasonable here, right,
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I mean, don't be getting mon Soto for you know,
a seventeenth round draft pick, you know, in twenty forty seven.
But what are you trying to get done? What are
you trying to do with the current players? What changes
are made. You mentioned Castillo that you think that that
may happens. That's projecting what will happen. I'm saying, what
would you do And would that be a long relief,
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would that be a leverage like eighth inning setting up Moon?
You know, it's like give some detail that what would
be top of mind for you? Top three or four
or five things you want to accomplish between now and
the end of July.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Well, what I'd certainly like to accomplish is I want
an everyday hitter that there's no it's fool proof. I mean,
he doesn't have to dominate left handed pitching. But this
team has a real big problem hitting lefties, and so
I need somebody. Need to acquire somebody that is doing
it actively, not last year, not historically. I don't need
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another thirty seven year old who's been good at that
in the past. I need somebody who is actively crushing
left handed pitching. And the problem is that because the
American League has been down and because the National League
is up, they're almost everybody is in the race. So
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I don't know if like a Byron Buxton is a
name that keeps coming up. Well, we've got three stretches
against them now being available. Number one, the Twins got
back in the race. Number two he's got no trade clause,
and number three a guy with an injury history, is
currently on the injury list, So I don't even know
if you can trust him. Wilson Contreras is another name
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that's come up from the Boston Red Sox. Well, guess what,
The Red Sox are the hottest team in the American League.
All of a sudden, they've won six straight games, they're
back in the race, and he has turned into their
strangely enough leader of that group. I mean, I could
see him really anchoring the middle of this order and
giving you somebody that crushes lefties and you'll deal with
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the attitude that comes with him. But I'm not sure
he's going to be available. Somebody like a Spencer Steer
from Cincinnati who's hitting well over a thousand against lefties,
probably wouldn't cost much in a trade. You would have
to platoon him. He's not a guy that hits righty's two,
which I know is a horrifying notion for a lot
of Mariner fans right now. But he at least is
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twenty eight years old actively crushing left handed pitching, and
I see why they would also want a relief pitcher
to add to the core. And I'll do this quickly, guys,
But I mean, you've got the potential here if you
make the playoffs, if having one of the great bullpens
we've ever seen. Yes, if you've got the four guys
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that you have now that you trust Freer and and
Munios and Spire and Bizarredo, you get brash back, then
you add something at the trading deadline, they're six, Then
Anderson and Sloan get called up. Work out of the bullten,
there's eight, and then you get two starters from your
six that can't make your rotation in the playoffs. I mean,
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that could be one of the greatest bulltens. Yeah. So
I'm not sure you need a relief pitcher, even though
it feels like we do right now. I'm not sure
by the time the playoffs roll around that that's going
to be something that we have to have. But if
they get one, fine, I don't think you can have
enough of them. So I think that the batter that
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can crush lefties is the number one priority. I don't
know if you can find a special player and all
star type, so you might have to get a little
creative and who you do acquire, but that's what I'd
go after.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
The scenario you painted as Dan Wilson's dream because he
loves using leverage relievers for six to eight pitches, so
that's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That gives him.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No chance to bring in a non leverage everyone will
be clea.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Hey, Chuck, we appreciate it. We'll talk you next week.
Have a great weekend, all right, you guys are the best.
You bet Chuck.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Pale and uh you know, Hugh, you were on Chuck
Show earlier this week breaking down Nicky Man worry for
the Seahawks one series, So I wanted just to uh
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Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh, thanks to Chuck Powell for joining us talk a
little base ball. Chuck houses Seahawks one series where he
focuses on a Seahawks play each and every day.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
And Hugh was on this week and talked about this week.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Last week, Sorry talked about nick Eman Warri who I
think I mean you talk about intriguing players on this team.
If you were to pull one hundred Seahawks fans, who's
the most intriguing player to you on the Seattle Seahawks
Man nick Eman Worry will be high on a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Of people's lists.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
So let's just thirty thousand feet kind of how you
started this conversation with Chick, and then we'll break it
into a part.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Well, we'll see it was a twenty five minute segment
that we'll try and break into eight minutes here. So,
first of all, the athletic profile, he's the only safety
in the history of the combine going back to nineteen
nineteen eighty eight. Rather on the database six foot three
or taller and under a four to four forty. He's
the only athlete at any position and over two hundred
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pounds to have a forty three inch vertical or higher.
And he's at two hundred twenty pounds. Usually it's a guy.
You know, it's one hundred and eighty pound receivers, right
that they can do that. And then as we know
that the leverage part of bench pressing, he is one
of only four safeties in history to have a seventy
eight inch wingspan or longer and twenty or more reps
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in the bench. I mean, we can we can just
keep going through all these, you know, these freak numbers
from him as an athlete. But that's what appealed to
Mike McDonald, that athletic clay if you will, that he
could mold.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So what does that freak athleticism allow them to do defensively?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Well, they were basically a nickel team and he played
the nickel Sam. I mean we're saying that, we're talking
about that all year, and then finally in the in
mid January leading up to the San Francisco playoff game,
Mike McDonald's said as such. He says, he's just a
freaky athletic SAM linebacker. If I'm studying, if I'm an
opponent quarterback studying, not just to say, hey, number three
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is their outside linebacker. So the Seahawks were number number
two in the NFL in the use of Nickel a
second only to San Francisco. But when they went against
the thirteen personnel, which is the run running back, three
tight ends that the Rams were doing all the time
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that the forty nine ers were trying to do. If
you count Yustef as a tight end, then the second
the average, the average is eleven percent to use Nickel against.
That second place was the forty nine Ers at thirty
three percent. The Seahawks were number one at seventy two
and a half percent.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So they were their stay against.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So meaning you would look and you'd say the Rams
and the forty nine Ers are trying to drive them
into dime or excuse me, and do more base personnel
and having Heaver, but because they view him as a linebacker,
the Seahawks stay quote unquote Nickel regardless of the personnel.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So let's talk about the past. D What his role
in the past? D? What is his What do his
traits allow them to do in the past. D.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Well, there's a coverage and we don't have the time
to get a Cover four and cover six. These are
seam coverages. They have both safeties back. That's the important
part of this. Both safeties are away from the lion
of scrimmage Seattle in either Cover four or Cover six,
the two ice structures. Jacksonville was number one in the NFL.
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The Seahawks were number two, but using nickel. Not surprisingly,
the Seahawks were number one in terms of using playing
those coverages. Now, what does that do for Nick m
and worry? He as this the sam linebacker just means
begins with an as strong side linebacker in those coverages.
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He asked, what's termed match two to the flat? The
second guy, the second final number two. It could be
the running back who lined up and you count outside
in wide receiver, then slot, then the running back count
outside in. So the final number two to the flat.
He's got to match that. So when he has to
play to the wide side of the field, not into
the boundary, that's a lot of ground to cover. And
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he has to line inside of the slot receiver to
deny the slant. That's his first thing. So he's aligned inside.
That means there's a lot of space that he has
to cover. So all that freaky athleticism he can cover
ground like he has a turbo button playing Madden an xbox,
and he has those long arms the strength to make tackles,
even if they're not violent tackles in space, they don't
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need to be. He's a short tackler, but it's the
ground that he can cover that allows him in zone
and then in man to man. Last year against the
Rams in the NFC Championship game, he's one of only
two rookies in a playoff game to have three passes
defense or more in this decade. And that was against
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DeVante Adams. That was against Puka Nakua and Rivers. They're
running back. He had in man to man coverages this year.
If you just throw, if you just filtered, like I
have the all the game tape and you put in
man to man and you watch who Emon Warry is covering.
That's who. Mike McDonald says. I think my man even
where he can cover. Listen to the guys that he's covered. McCaffrey,
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Poka nko as I said, DeVante Adam, Justin Jefferson got
a pass defense near peck Man and man against Justin Jefferson,
I mean, and many others primarily a tight end, but
they're not if the formation bumps out in certain circumstances,
they're not afraid to let him cover anybody. So he
gives you all that that ability in the in the zone,
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the flat that he can cover the ground he can
cover then man to man, he's got the strength and
the length and the athleticism to shadow anybody, so they'll
have him cover anybody. And then you know in the
pass rush I did not know this until last week.
He had his pressure percentage was twenty nine percent. He
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had sixty two pass rush snaps. Dick twenty pressure, So
that's twenty nine percent. That's number two in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Now again, that's that's the percentage of his pressure of
the time he rushed he produced a quarterback pressure. To
put that into terms, Miles Garrett and Aiden Hutchinson were
tied at seventeen and a half percent.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Now size, but yes, because they're because.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
They're rushing more often and and and there's there's some
scheme components to that. Because while I say m and
Worry is number two in the NFL, Drake Thomas is
number nine. So that is now speaking to the prowess
of Mike McDonald to be able to really attack the scheme,
the minutia of the offense, the offense's pass protection schemes,
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he's finding a way to create weaknesses in that not
only with em and worry the superior athlete, but Drake
Thomas and and and look, I love me some Drake Thomas.
What wouldn't you love about the story. But let's be honest.
On an athletic profile, he's in the bottom quadrant of
outside linebackers in the NFL. That doesn't mean he's a
bottom quadrant player, correct, but his athletic profile is bottom quadrant.
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So so we tip our hat to Mike McDonald with
some of the things he's able to create to create
those numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And then finally against the run, I mean we always
remember the Legion of Boom. You know, they always brought
Cam down on those running downs and he was the stopper.
Is that a similar role that he has against the
run that Cam did or is it something different?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Well, you know, I would just put because we're running
short on time. This really gets me my attention. So
Sean McVay, we're talking about this thirteen personnel that he's driving.
Thirteen personnel and you think you'd say, okay, he's trying
to make defenses go heavy on him because he's got
three tight ends in the game, and in that there's
only one wide receiver. Right, So the Rams against when
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Seattle was playing their nickel and saying no, no, no, no,
we're going to do our thing, Sean McVay, you just
do whatever. The Rams tried forty four rushes in thirty
This is how it's filtered. Thirteen personnel by the Rams offense. Yep,
it's very heavy. Yep, just nickel by you know, Seattle
standing in their nickel, not going heavy, not matching heavy.
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The Rams had forty four rushes for a four point
one average. The league average is four point three. So
he they were able to keep the Rams below the
league average by still staying relatively light. And oh, by
the way, as I discussed the Cover four and the
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Cover six with both safeties back right, and so that's
a credit to you know, the entire front seven. It's
a credit to how they're moving around and of course
their physical skill set. But Emon worry being able to
you know, take on blocks the length that he has,
he can walk out. He's just so versatile. He's not
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a back end safety, but they can walk him out
on the anywhere on the line of scrimmage to defend
anybody and then of course when he's in the box,
he's got the physical stature to take on the blocks
and play hard ball if they want to play hardball.
So all of the numbers that you're seeing emon worry.
I think it was a sixty to one when I
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recommend to you, guys, go throw a Franklin at him.
Being the defensive player of the year, defensive player of
the year, he's going to have to have splash plays.
This will be my final thought as we go to
commercial the NFL. This is not my term defensive splash play.
This is the NFL's stat portal, twenty eight splash plays
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that's tackled for lost nine pass defense fifteen, which, as
I said, was oh that pass defense fifteen. That's the
number one in the NFL by safeties. All the other
fourteen ahead were all corners cornerback. So he's the number
one safety in past defense. And as I said, as
a call him a safety, call him a linebacker. I say,
he lines up and he plays the linebacker, he's officially
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a safety. But fifteen past defense four quarterback hits just
two and a half sacks, just the one interception. So
if he gets a few two of those splash, defensive
plays up and the word gets around how versatile he is,
and everybody's talking about the dark side defense. That's the
formula where you cash in and get your sixth grand
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on a Franklin bed. For him to be the defensive
player there probably won't happen. I'm not predicting it. Certainly
it's a less than fifty percent, but it's a good
value at sixty to one.
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