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August 22, 2024 36 mins
Former Mariner Bret Boone joins the show to talk about the hiring of Dan Wilson.  We Take Callers reacting to the firing of Scott Servais and hiring of Dan Wilson.
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Mariners firing Scott Service today after thirteen hundred and twenty
two games.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
He is out as the Mariner manager.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Dan Wilson has been hired full time as the manager,
with reports that Edgar Martinez maybe joining his staff at
least for the final thirty four games of the year.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
MS have the day off their back home against the
Giants tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
Hawks announced they'll play their starters Saturday against the Browns,
and today they traded cornerback Michael Jackson to the Panthers
for linebacker Michael Barrett, who was a seventh round pick
this year out of Michigan played one season with Mike
McDonald in and.

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Arburg Commanders sending former first round draft pick Johan Dockson
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runner to the Eagles for a third round pick in
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(02:04):
He is our friend Brett Boone joining us right now
on the radio show Booneye.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
How are you, man, I'm good, just got off the
plane best.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Uh, you're in Atlanta, correct for like some brands parade?
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, your phone sounds like crap. By the way, are
you on your speakerphone right in your AirPods or whatever? Yeah,
that's a little better.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
There you go, a little better. It's kind of like
today for Scott's Service. It's a crappy day.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
What do you make of the news of Scott's Service
getting whacked and Dan Wilson getting the job?

Speaker 7 (02:38):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Thinking on the fly because I'm sure a week ago
they weren't playing on this so obviously this has come to,
you know, with the recent play of the Mariners.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
I don't know, I've thought about it.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I think as far as going to Dan Wilson right
now in this situation, I couldn't imagine a better back
familiar with the organization.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
Obviously, he's kind of guy that's wearing.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Four or five hats and has been for the last
five or six years, from the broadcast booth to their
minor league system. So as far as I think Dan's
a perfect guy for this job, I think we look
at everything that's transpired from going up to the break.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
You know, we were saying, hey, you got to go
good stuffing. Well, there weren't some stars on the market.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
That were actually available, and I think what they did
I think at the time, for me, I thought they
were good moves coming up with Turner, Rose, Arena Garcia.
All three have not played their best baseball since becoming Mariners.
Julio on and off the IL. Crawford, you haven't had
the regular shortstop for a good portion of the portion

(03:44):
of the season. It's the second stand on the IL,
and things haven't gone good for me. What Stanton did
is he heard the fans. He heard you guys on
the radio. He hears everybody that they're fed up and
there needs to be a change. I think what he
did is he just went to his second trade deadline,
impired the managers that I've heard you, this is what
we're doing. I'm going to try something to salvage this season,

(04:07):
because if he wasn't going to try to salvage the season,
I think he would have just gone with status quo
and wrote it out.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
That's my thoughts.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
You're sitting there at seven and a half out in
the wildcard and five in the division off tonight, and
I just heard you as I was coming on that
Houston's went in two to nothing. Houston setting up perfect,
Berlanders coming back, Nears, their stud reliever just came back, Tucker.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
They're going to have probably by the end of the month.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
So they're setting up perfect right now, and it's going
to be a really heavy list lift for this Mariners
to come back and overtake that division, let alone the wildcard.
I think the Wildcard is officially over. There's two Tampa
Bay and Boston's ahead of Seattle. The only chance is
the division. I think he played three more games had
to head with Uston. In past years, with the schedule

(04:54):
where you played it heavy in your division, you could
at least look.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
And go, hey, it's in our hands.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
We had seven more with the Houston and after well
that's not the case anymore.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
They got three more.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I believe the twenty second or twenty thirty of September,
so that's not an option. I don't know for me
as an owner. What else do you do if you
really want to salvage it. Maybe a change of the
guard at the top. Maybe that shakes everything up because
the trade deadline hasn't worked.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
Nothing's worked. I'm gonna try this right now.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like I said, I think if Stanton was just gonna
stand pat ride it out another year, the Mariner's not
going to postseason, he wouldn't have done anything right now.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
But this is to kind of shake it up, and
I think he shook it up. Thoughts thoughts, guys.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Brett, you mentioned though that you didn't think that they
were thinking about this a week ago and Mice and
you may be right, But my question is, why the
hell not? I mean, why weren't you thinking about this
July twenty fourth when they got swept by a terrible
Angels team and fell to fifty three and fifty one.
Why didn't they think about this when they looked miserable
against the Detroit Tigers two weeks ago and fell the
fifty nine and fifty six they back then, Brett, they

(05:59):
still had an opportunity to win the division, and I
don't you think they're putting Dan in a terrible no
win situation right here, being as far back hell, he
could be five and a half games back that the
first time he ever manages a baseball game.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I don't think so, because I think if the rest
of the season plays out and the Mariners play well,
even above five hundred, and Houston plays just well five
hundred or better, and Houston wins the division, that's gonna
be no skin off Dan's knows. Nobody's gonna Nobody comes
in like Dan's gonna rescue us and we're gonna win
the division.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
Now, if it was the tie, if it was tied,
or they.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Were down one game or two games, there'd be expectations.
I think at this point in the season in Seattle,
you guys know better than me.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
You're on the ground there.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
But I don't think anybody, any Seattle Mariner fans right
now are thinking Dan's at the helm. They have a
possibility tonight after the Houston game to be five and
a half out right, with a little more than five
weeks to play, I don't think the city's going Dan's
gonna save this, And if he doesn't get rid of
Dan Wilson I think Dan has nothing to lose.

Speaker 7 (06:59):
He's gonna go there with his demeanor.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Dan Wilson's one of the best men I've ever played
with as a man. Him and the John Olerud, they're
kind of two piece in a pot. Danny's well versed,
he's well spoken, He's very knowledgeable. He knows that organization
in and out. Like I said, he's been doing everything
for that organization and for right now. I think this

(07:22):
is the best decision they could have made if they're
if they decided management decided, hey, we're going to fire server,
we got to do something.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Yeah, I think Dan Wilson putt him in that spot.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I think it's a great call, and I think long term,
Dan Wilson could be a phenomenal manager.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
I really believe that.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I really believe, and you know, I don't say that
about too many people who's better than Dan Wilson out.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
There right now.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I don't care what experience he has. This managerial experience
is nonsense.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
You got to knowledge of the game.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
You know how to handle people in a clubhouse, egos,
that's the most important thing.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
You have a you have a relationship with your general manager.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
You can handle immediate Dan has all those skills, so why.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
Not let him do it.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
It's not like he's coming off, you know from his couch.
He's well versed in our organization.

Speaker 7 (08:09):
I don't see anybody better than Danny right now to
step in in this position.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I think he's going to do a great job, and
I think long term, if Dan wants to manage, I
think he's going to be an excellent manager, a top.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
Top guy.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Brett boons with us.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
So I want to ask you the same question I
asked steven SUSA about a half an hour ago. If
Dan called you and said, all right, man, you've been
following this team all year long. I've been following this thing.
I think we have a chance to get back in
the race. What do I do? What do I need
to do to kind of spark this thing? Starting tomorrow
against the Giants.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I don't think anything you can do with with your
pet You've got the guys you've got right now. Right
it's not changing. The talent level isn't changing. Pitching rotations,
that's not going to change once again. On the field
right now, the injuries. The guys that are healthy playing
and a lot of them have in not very good
years there's nothing you're gonna do that's gonna really mix

(09:06):
it up.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
These players are gonna rally around and win or they're not.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
And the thing is, if they rally around you and
play great, it's not in their hands anymore because they
got they potentially have a five and a half point
deficit to make up with limited time, so they could
play great.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
If Houston plays great, it doesn't matter. It's nil. So
I think Danny's gonna go in and be Danny. You know,
I wouldn't have any suggest b.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Dan Wilson set the tone, you're not giving up at
this point.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
That you'd be silly. You know what was it was
it June nineteenth.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
June nineteenth when they had the ten game league, and
two months to the date they were down four or
five in the division. So if that can happen, anything
can happen. So I'm not calling in the season yet.
If I'm Dan Wilson, or even if I'm myself now
i've watched this team, I would be shocked and I
would really impress. The made a run, came back and
ran at Houston. But I won't call it a dead

(10:04):
year yet. You know, a week from now, I might
have a different opinion, but right now you kind of
got to stay with that positive. I think Dan's gonna
go and through Dan, he's got nothing to lose. He
knows those guys very well. They know him. I'm assuming
they really like him, because I don't know how many
guys that don't like dam Wilson. But he's not that
too nice of a guy either. He's got, he's he's sharp,
he's sharper than people know. He's one of the sharper

(10:26):
teammates I've ever had. And he's good, and he can
be disciplined and stern when he needs to be, and
he can also be that lovable Dan when he needs
to be. But he's a real good people person and
he's one of those guys I would say just gets it.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
Dan Wilson gets it well.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
I appreciate your optimism.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I don't know how the team that scores half two
and a half runs a game can come back from
a from the five.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
And a half game deficit, but you know, we'll we'll
find out.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Roster, right, the roster is what it is, Deck, You're
not changing that at this point.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Wehen knowing Dan as well as you do.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
So what's his first message, what does Dan Wilson say
to this baseball team in a clubhouse tomorrow before game one?

Speaker 7 (11:08):
What the hell we got to lose?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Boys, Let's give him hell for the next five six
weeks and see where it lies. Play with your hair
on fire, let's go. This could be a rallying cry.
This might fire some people up in that club.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't know what the relationship was between Scott and
his players loved him.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know the intricacy of how that's working down there,
but I know right now just may be welcome by
some of the players, maybe not welcome by some of
the fairs, but nobody's pissed that Dan Wilson's going to
be running at right right.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
They all loved So that would be my message. What
do we got to lose?

Speaker 4 (11:44):
What do we got We put ourselves in this position,
what do we got to lose? Give the hell five weeks,
lay it on the line.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Yeah, he never happened. See what happens.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
If it works, it works, If it doesn't, it doesn't.
Like I said, they could play great, Houston plays great.
It doesn't matter. You've put yourself in that position. The
players that put themselves in that position. So yeah, it's
their hole, dig out and it'll see going in the
next year, whatever happens at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, well, it kind of feels like any baseball conversation,
and I don't know how you feel about it, Boonie
as well, Bret boon with US courtesy Avenue Kings dot
Com that any conversation about the Mariners all surface level stuff,
ownership structure, front office structure, the manager or whatever, like,
you know, just talking baseball, Like, hey, what will it
take to beat the Giants Boonie this weekend? Right, Like,
there's really no there's no desire, I think, and I'm

(12:32):
starting to kind of sense a little bit of apathy.
I mean, I just noticed this on Twitter the air night.
There's just lack of activity on that website regarding this
baseball team.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I think people are just done. And I mean you
think that Dan can come in and.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Re energize these guys, Will he be more of a
more of a champion for the players you think than
Scott was. Not that Scott wasn't a champion, but when
he went after cal Raley and going after is probably
too strong a you know, way to word that. But
when kl got pissed last year and the manager tells

(13:05):
Caw to control his emotions, I thought that was chicken crap.
I could never imagine Lou Panelas saying something like that,
and I can't imagine Dan Wilson saying something like that.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
So in general terms, do.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You believe that he will be more of a champion
for the guys than maybe the previous guy was.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, when I mentioned Dan Wilson in the high character
guy that he is, don't don't.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
Mistake that for him being a push over.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Dan Wilson's that guy as a teammate and it never
came to this, but he's that type of guy that you.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
Want Dan to approve of you. Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Dan, He's a low he's a real low profile. He's quiet,
really funny, excellent sense you were once again, he gets it.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
But he's also that guy. It's almost like a father figure.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Dan's the perfect like that perfect guy, does everything right,
always has He's a Bob Boom for me, my father.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
You know, he's a valedictorian, he's the prom king. He
does everything right, never gets in trouble.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
But but when he always you know, you never want
to disappoint Dan and have him look at you like,
come on, now, you know Dan's that guy, and I
think he has.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
That effect on people. I think he's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
In that clubhouse and they're gonna know what the Dan.
They're gonna know what Dan expects out of them, and
they don't want to disappoint him because of.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
The man he is. I think he's a perfect guy.
I really do.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
This doesn't mean just giving you a story because this
happened today. That's truly what I think is Dan Wilson.
I think he's good at whatever he does. I talked
to MS Spring I said, I think he'd do a
great job on the air, because I really think he
does do a great job. He's got a great grasp
of this gang, and he's been around enough so he's
got the He's got the old school, which Dan Wilson is,

(14:44):
but he's also got the new school with the analytics
and the players of today is very familiar with that.
I think he's a perfect guy right now for this organization,
this franchise, and like I said, nothing to lose, He's
got nothing to lose right now except for to finish
as strong as they can going into next year, and
wherever the chips fall, they fall.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I keep hearing the Jerry Depoto controls everything though, and
this just reeks of a guy that Jerry Depoto can control.
He butted heads with Sosia, right, So he comes to
Seattle and he finds a guy that he can control
in Scott's Service. And now he doesn't even go through
a requisite process of finding out who else is out there,

(15:26):
and he hires another guy that I feel like he
can control. Am I off my rocker there? I mean
it just the bread leads me to that conclusion.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
In today's game, if you want to manage in the
big leagues, I think it's a prerequisite that you gotta
dance a little bit. Even if you're not a dancer.
You know where I'm going. Yeah, if you're not a
politician in today's game, if you want to manage at
this level, you've gotta be able to politic a little bit.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
So I think Dan will. But I think Dan's the type.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Of guy that before he would he would give up
his beliefs and how he wants to run something and
completely sell out to the other side. I think Dan's
a guy that would stand up going I don't need this.
Me and my family don't need this for me to
have to dance big time. Now, I've got to do
a few things that I don't particularly love. But if

(16:18):
it's the good of the franchise and it's what ownership wants,
yeah I can do that. But he's not gonna completely
sell himself. That's not how Dan Wilson is. He just
assumed go home before he'll do something like that. He's
not a desperate guy that, oh I need this job and.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
I really wanted to manage.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He doesn't need this right exactly doesn't need it.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
He doesn't need this. I think ownership softie. Here's what
I think.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
The end of the season, if things don't go right,
it doesn't finish good and you miss the playoffs again,
I think from the top on down needs to look
in the mirror and say, what is going on in Seattle.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
We've been the one.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Playoff in over twenty years with the unbelievable stadium, unbelievable
fan base.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
That's unacceptable.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Something's got to change and you have to do some
deep searching, man, and look at each other in the
eye at the top level and.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Say, why have we failed? Why have we failed? Why
have we put together a winner?

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Right?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
I think you ever, all of us have to do
it at some point in our life. And it's not
about being the head of a franchise, but other things
in our lives. At some point you got to look
in the mirror, go all right, why is this not working?
What do we to do differently? It's been twenty some
years one playoff, right, I think some soul searching that has.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
To be done at the end of the season. If
it doesn't finish, you know the way the way everybody
thinks it.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Might not finish, It'll be interesting to watch how it goes.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Why can't I break eighty? Because I suck? That's why.
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, well we're talking a week I enjoy the weekend, buddy.
All right, thank you guys, boom with us. We got
some hope segments. Let's take some phone calls. You wanna
take some calls, Get some calls. Six ninety five seem.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
As depressed as eight two, nine or nine five.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh, I don't know how much what you're going to
lower my tone of voice.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
No, I'm just saying you don't seem depressed. I'm depressed.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You're depressed. I'm I think the firing Scott's Service was
the right call. I think giving Dan Wilson the job
full time without doing a exhaustive interview process was a
massive mistake by this organization. We're just handling a different well.
I mean, I don't know what do you want me
to do? Maybe I'm tired of sick and tired of
letting these guys dictate my move. Maybe I'm sick and

(18:36):
tired of being sick and tired. You're a better man
than me, No you're not, Or no I'm not, because
I'll tell you what else. I'll admit something to you.
Last night, as I'm walking the dog, I literally had
a thought pop into my head that I've never had
pop into my head before, ever, ever, first time ever. Now,
it came and went pretty fast, but I'd have thought
pop into my head yesterday that I never thought I
would ever have. I'm gonna tell you what it was.

(18:56):
You'll never believe. You'll never believe the dog thought. I
want to grab some next two eight six ninety five,
two nine to ninety five. Oh, your thoughts on this
scott Service out Dan Wilson's in your take coming up?
Next on ninety three to three KJRFM LI from the R.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
And R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie
and Dick Gone Your Home for the Huskies and the
Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM. Were
any other fandidate's considered and was there any sort of

(19:36):
interview process when before you guys landed on Dan?

Speaker 8 (19:40):
No, I mean it's it's not that time in a season.
You know, it would be very difficult and likely inappropriate
to try to run a multi person interview during the
course of a major league season.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I'm sorry I had to chuckle right there. Have you
considered any other candidates?

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Not?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Why would we do that?

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Why would we go through a nationwide search when we
could go through a search of our own cal This
is what I'm talking about, pr wise, that you do
things like this, you make decisions like this, and people
think you're a bunch of buffoons, that you have no
idea what the hell you're doing.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I mean, my god, you know you wanted.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
All I want is an ownership group and a front
office that wants to win as badly as me, right,
And I don't feel like they feel that way. And
I'll tell you what, man, we had some calls here
in a minute. Last night, I'm outside, I'm walking the
dog around, and I had this fleeting thought that just
came into my head and then just went away. And
for the first time of my life. I'm fifty one
years old, I thought to myself, what if I found

(20:44):
a new team to root for? No, you did it,
I did, swear to God. It lasted for about ten
seconds and then it was gone. What if I was
a Reds fan? What if I was a Cardinal fan?
What if I turned into a Yankee fan because my
dad grew up a Yankee old No, I got this witch,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
It just it just came and went. But these people
have driven me. You want me pissed off, you want
me angry. Now I'm angry. This is what they did.
They drove me anders to even consider for a.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Five second run of time that maybe I should root
for somebody else, because they're a constant letdown, constant. I
got a text from a friend of mine who said, uh,
is this Dan Wilson, the same who was once our catcher?
Because you know what, Dick, if you're in your mid twenties.
You don't have much memory of him.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
They had played for twenty years, right, what the hell
was in love with him?

Speaker 6 (21:36):
It's about it. And I feel bad because.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
By saying by saying I'm depressed, I'm I'm not saying
that Dan Wilson can't manage. I'm not saying that Dan
Wilson shouldn't get a shot to manage. In fact, he'd
have been a fine manager for the rest of this season,
and he could have shown what he was all about,
and he could have made the decision in the offseason
either to wrap your arms around him or go in

(22:03):
a different direction. But based upon Jerry's own words today,
they shot down every other potential manager in the country
because they wanted to go with the guy and Dan
Wilson now versus taking him for a test drive.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, listen, they may have made the right move, but
we're not gonna know that for a while.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Right, Maybe we'll know it at the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't know me They'll got some crazy word. This
would be very mariner ish. The first time they do
this is with this guy, everything all of a sudden turns.
The craziest things in sports happen when you at least
expect it. I've been saying that for years, and maybe
this is one of those times. But I think again,
they really have sent the wrong message to their fan
base When I say pr that's what I mean. It's
not a crack at a media relations person or a staffer.

(22:47):
It's the public perception of the franchise that's created by
the owner and front office people that make moves that
don't jive with the same passion the fan had David
for Jerry to go on his prescott. I don't even
remember that clip that we aired that. By the way,
did you look at somebody else?

Speaker 5 (23:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
No, No.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
It just perpetuates. It perpetuates everything. It perpetuates everything. It
perpetuates the constant association and addiction with nineteen ninety five,
It perpetuates discussion, everything, it perpetuates.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
I mean that's what I'm making jokes about. Jay Buner
gonna be is gonna be on the staff. He's working
for Major League Baseball, Stan Javier gonna be on the staff.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Can't You can't escape that criticism when you do things
like let's say, I I totally get it, and by
the way, uh, Jerry Depoto did announce today that Dan's
the guy.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
This is not an interim thing.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
He's the manager next year, the year after whatever, as
long as he ends up staying on the job. But
this is that there's gonna be no search. He's the
manager right now and forever, now and next year, now
and forever. All right, let's go to the phone line.
See what's going on out there. We're start. Let's go
from the top Anders Joel and to coom and Joel,
what's shaken? Is this my buddy, Joel?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Make you see?

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
How are you good?

Speaker 9 (24:09):
Yeah, I'm I'm doing okay. So my whole thing is
and Dick has coached before, I've coached before. This is
not about Bex's and O's. It's about Jimmy's and Joe's.
You just don't have the talent. I don't care who
your coach is. You can coach your butt off if
they don't have the talent, they don't have the talent.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, but Joel, why is every player on offense underachieving?
If they just did what they have always done as
major league baseball players, they would be in first place.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
For Jerry say, they're looking for a league average offense.
Did he say that?

Speaker 5 (24:42):
He basically boasted that, you know, we've really had a
league average offense in every at home and every year,
but this year, like a league average offense was something
to strive for.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
With this pitching staff, and maybe good enough. But that's Joel,
that's the thing, the standards so low when they can't
even reach that pal.

Speaker 9 (24:58):
Right, No, I get it, And you know it's more
about managing egos managing people. I mean, you can't win
the derby on the back of a.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Donkey, yeah, Charlton line. He told us that a long
time ago.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
They traded for a Rosa Raina. But it's not like
the next coming of a brus I mean, people need
to call him down. The guy sitting two nineteen.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, but he wasn't hitting two nineteen before he came here.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
They can't win the derby with the donkeys, and then
they went out and made the playoffs. All right, Joel,
thank you, We got to run. Let's keep going here. Andrews,
how about ed from bri or Edgar on the air
talk to.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
Us absolutely fellaws. Hey, you know this obby.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
Reminds me of the Jeff Saturday higher with Indianapolis.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (25:41):
But Uh, you know, I heard they're going to add
Edgar to the staff.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (25:46):
I guess I have one question. Can Edgar and Dan
Wilson and Jay Bunter and Rowell can he Can they
get these guys they hit a little better, so they
just don't suck.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
I mean, we're doing pretty well if.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
We get the.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Right well.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I just think in the end, Dick's right that not
a lot's going to change until the roster changes. And
I don't think anything changes long term unless the ownership
group changes down the road. They may stumble upon something
every now and then, you know, just fall into a
championship or fall into a World Series. But this thing
is rotting from the top. It's rotting from the core,
and they've got to fix that. And look, it's not

(26:21):
that there's no way to fix that unless the ownership
agrees to sell the franchise, which why they would.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Do that, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's one of the greatest investments in the world.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
When they get rid of it.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Is Dan Wilson and Edgar Marketine is going to be
allowed to change the hitting.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Full as like I said today on Twitter, I hope
he looks at Depoto and says dude, if you really
want to do this, and you have to let me
do it, and I got to do it my way,
and I got to go out there and change the offense.
And maybe how about tomorrow night they start butting like crazy,
moving guys over.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
This team bad?

Speaker 9 (26:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Well, whatever I'm just saying, they just totally changed. Like
what was your stat about the sec fly or the
bunting or whatever it was?

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Here here twenty three percent lower in sacrifice flies plus
sacrifice bunts than the next worst team in baseball because.

Speaker 10 (27:08):
They don't get anyone to third base.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's part of it.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's part of it. But again, they don't butt them
over from sacaras.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
What I'm saying, there is an obvious approach, a small ball,
if you will, approach that they don't subscribe to.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
And maybe they'll.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Subscribe to its starting tomorrow night against the Giants. All right,
I appreciate the call, Uh, Jeff maple Valley and you're
on the air, Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Go what do you got?

Speaker 12 (27:30):
Well, a little flabbering acted. As long as the Poto's
still here, I don't see how anything could change. It
reminds me so much of the tail end of Al
Davis when the Raiders were just horrible because Al Davis
unfortunately couldn't run his team anymore. Well, he ran his team,
but he ran into the ground just like George Steinbedder
did at the very end of the Yankees when the

(27:52):
Yankees were horrible. They didn't cut the head off the
snake at all. What they did was, of course, they
sacrificed service in service. I don't think did a very
good job, to be frank with you, but we were
the two years ago. We were the number one team
in baseball money wise. Dave achieved their goal. John Stanton
is over the moon. They're so excited with how much

(28:12):
money they make that you know as well. I'm not
telling you anything you don't know, but I love Dan Wilson.
I think it's a good higher. But he's going to
be handcuffed just like Dick said. It's not going to
make a difference as long as you still have Jerry
Depotos sitting there. And it crushes me to death. I mean, David,
I know that you want to take your father to
a World Series.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Tell dad taking my dad anywhere? He died two years ago.
What are you crazy? He's not going anyway, it's over.

Speaker 12 (28:38):
I'm aware of that, David. I wanted Dave Niehouse to
see the World Series too. I wanted Kevin Craven to
be here. And Rick rizz Is in his seventies. I mean,
my god, it's either time to start moving forward as
a franchise or just or it's just going to be
the fun for us to the day we died, and
this is all they're looking for. Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
All right, man, We'll get more calls, more thoughts coming up.
Tim Brando, by the way, with Shift Gears to a
little college football. You cool that get away from the
MS first segment talking some dogs with Tim Brando. How
does he think you Dubb does in the Big ten?
We'll find out at six Right here on ninety three
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Speaker 1 (29:16):
R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie and
Dick on your Home for the Huskies and the Kraken
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
All right, boys and girls, wear're back here at the
Q twenty Public House, literally inside the QFC uh in
the U Village. I want to announce our first qualifier
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(29:52):
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Speaker 6 (30:16):
Oh that sounds like fun now, I heard you earlier.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Says it really sound like it does. This is going
to Huston Stadium. Sound like fun.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
I've had fun at since Stag. Okay, you have a
lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
I watched Corey Dylan run for about four billion yards
on the mass.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
It has been, it has been.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
But I heard you talk about that game earlier that
I hope that Andrews recorded you say, you know, I
don't even know if I'm really gonna care who wins
if we lose that game, because I guarantee you the
week of that game, yeah sure, you.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Will be absolutely pissed if we lose.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, if you would have told me the morning of
the Vegas game, you can have this game, but you'll
get murdered by one hundred next year, I say, Okay, fine,
where do I sign. That's my whole point that UWN
Oregon will likely never play a game as big as
that game was in Vegas. Ever, unless they meet in
the College FOBA playoffs, that's the only time, and it's
got to be like the semi finals because that basically
was a quarter final game for the final four they play.

(31:15):
Because now it's a twelve team playoffs. So if they
meet in the Big Ten championship for a trip to
the twelve team playoff, like let's say the Big ten's
having a down year, only one team's gonna go whatever,
that's different.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, this is a four team playoff. That was a
quarter final game. That's right.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Unless they meet in a semi, a national semi or
a natty, they'll never.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Play a bigger game.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
And we won and we get to shove it down
their throat for the rest of our lives.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Well, I don't think the Big Ten will will ever
have a situation where the loser of the Big Ten
championship game is not gonna make it.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I agree with that, that's my I'm just I'm talking
about in general term, if they play a game like that,
would they would have to play something equivalent to a
national semi final to play in a bigger game.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And and Washington won.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
So that's my whole point.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
You know, as much as Oregon fans want to talk
about this, talk about that, Hey guys, your coach has
never won a game against his rival ever. He's owing
three biggest when he's got is a Winnver, Liberty and
the freaking fiestable that nobody gave a damn about, which
is part of the reason why nobody cared is because
Liberty was.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
There, which is why I don't understand why people are
annoying Dan Lanning.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
As I'm with you, things spread.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, he can recruit, but he also has a war
chest unlike any other coach in college football.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I think you got to be a complete dope to
not at least have some modicum of success in Eugene.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
All Right, Andrews do we have Jesse and Kent still
with us? No, we have Nelson and Kent. Nelson and Kent.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
That's fine, Billy, Nellie, Jerry, Bobby, Barbara, whatever, give me
somebody in Kent.

Speaker 13 (32:42):
What do you got, SHOPPI if Nelson we've met before
a long time ago at Blazing Onion.

Speaker 10 (32:50):
We took a picture you sound jockey?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Wait a minute?

Speaker 7 (32:53):
What who what?

Speaker 9 (32:53):
What?

Speaker 13 (32:53):
Whoa?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
What?

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Whoa woll? Hang on?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Is this the Nelson that I've blocked on Twitter like
fifteen times and you just keep coming back with a
different Twitter account?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Is that you?

Speaker 10 (33:02):
It is me?

Speaker 12 (33:03):
But I've had this.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Blog but I called it forgot to tell you a
little site because one of us block a lot of
behave yourself who.

Speaker 10 (33:16):
Didn't like my Russell criticism. So we'll leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
But it's got nothing to do with that. Trust me
go ahead.

Speaker 10 (33:23):
I called last week. I gotta say, dude, when Jerry
talks about this offense and how it's been league average,
so I looked it up.

Speaker 13 (33:32):
In terms of ops and runs, He's been twentieth in
bull six different times. His highest ranking was twenty sixteen,
eighth and ops sixth and runs. His next highest was
twenty twenty two at fourteenth and eighteenth. His best offense

(33:54):
was Jack Zensicks offense. That off season, he traded Freddie Proul.

Speaker 10 (34:00):
For Adam Winn, who retired. The next year, he traded
for Wade Miley, he signed the Aoki. The guy is
a fraud, Okay, he is the issue with this team.
I understand Stanton sucks. We get it. He's a bad owner.
He doesn't spend. But the Royals lost one hundred games
last year. They spend twenty million lest the Guardians, the Twins,

(34:23):
the Orioles, the Brewers, they all spend twenty or thirty
million dollars less. I'm thirty eight years old. I've been
a fan of this team since as long as I
can remember having memories, which was nineteen ninety five. I've
probably was a fan before that. I don't remember it.
I remember going to sixty eight games in ninety five.
It's still have tickets up. I cried when Freddy Garcia

(34:44):
was traded. When I comes over the baseball game and
my dad told me he was my favorite manner ever.
I have loved this team as long as I can remember,
and I still love it, but I hate it because
they're kicking me in the butt and they're breaking my heart.
And Jared like, you can win. It is hard to
win a World Series with a bad owner. But the
Royals have shown you can do it. The Marlins have

(35:05):
shown you can do it. He is have shown you
can do it. You cannot win with the fraudulent GM.
He had forty million dollars. Yes, he had the maneuver money,
but he spent forty million dollars on crap. Okay, and
that is his choice.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
He is.

Speaker 10 (35:21):
He is not being told, hey, I need to spread
this money out. I can't give out a long term deal.
That's not what happens. That thought what happening. He is
choosing because he likes the option to get out of
the guys sucks and every single year he has to
recycle guys because every single year he keeps on missing
on guys. I'm set up with it. The issues will

(35:44):
not change until he is gone. And I agree with
all of you on Stanton. He sucks, but Jerry is
the bigger issue.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Great call, Great call.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
If only you could do this on social media not
be such a putch, you wouldn't get blocked.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Great call.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
All right, you're all done, Let's get a break. We're
gonna shift gears to the dogs next. San Juan Celtzer
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