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September 2, 2026 • 28 mins

In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to the Mariners win today over the Red Sox and current playoff chances, then Softy chats with Petros Papadakis about USC’s small crowd at their season opener, the Trojans’ program under Lincoln Riley, the Apple Cup this weekend, UCLA firing their Athletic Director, and Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's what we're going to do. Petros needs a few minutes,
which actually is great for us. He'll be with us
about 420. The game just ended and the M's got
the win eight to three.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I will be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
When the lineup came out this morning for this game,
Dick at Boston, I had the same reaction I had
when the lineup came out for game three against the
Phillies a week ago.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Remember that?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
When they just punted it. I'm like, what are we doing?
Laz Montes, not in the lineup. Cal Raleigh, not in
the lineup. So there was a lefty on the mound
in Sandoval today. So I texted our buddy at the Rainiers.
I said, dude, can you do me a favor? Send
me what Montes was doing against lefties in AAA Tacoma.
And he was doing just fine 35 games 62 abs

(00:41):
he was hitting uh uh what was his average was
on base percentage was 374 or i'm sorry 361 with
an 893.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Ops and he was hitting 258 off lefties in triple
a tacoma so that made no sense.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Cal Raleigh in the last, obviously, week or so, week
and a half, has a 1290 OPS. In the last
four games, it's got an 1165 OPS with a 313
batting average. And my first thought is, what are we
doing here, guys? Like, we can't afford to sit guys anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
We're in a hole.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
You know, the luxury of giving a guy a day off,
you don't get to do that anymore because of the
giant hole that you've dug for themselves. And then the
Mariners go out and they score eight runs against the
Boston Red Sox and just kick their ass in these
last couple of games. Now, the bullpen wasn't great yesterday,
and your boy Rucker gave up a couple of runs today.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
He's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
But the Mariners have climbed to four and a half. And, guys,
here's the deal. All right, there's 22 games left to
go starting tomorrow against the A's of Sacramento. 17 of
the 22 are against teams that are currently, as of
right this second, 97 games under 500 combined. So I'll

(01:52):
just repeat what I said on Friday's show. At the
end of the Red Sox series, I was hoping to
be right about three, four games out of first place.
If the Astros win tonight, it'll be five. I get that.
But at least they're not eight or nine games out, right? Like,
I think we all saw this Red Sox series and thought, well,
they're on fire. They could sweep us easily and kick

(02:15):
our ass. And that didn't happen. So I'm just telling
the both of you.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm telling the both of you. Be prepared for this
team to not die in the standings. Be prepared, Jackson
and Dick Fane, for this team to be hanging around
all year long and with a week to go to
be very much in the race for the division title.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Because of the division.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Not only do they look good offensively today, they look
good defensively today.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
A Rosarena. A Rosarena had a great catch. J.P.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Crawford had a great dig and fired a first base.
They just look crisp today, which is an anomaly. If
it was the norm for them to look crisp and
every once in a while to have bad defensive plays, okay,
I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
But it's actually the opposite overall.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
What bums me out is that you went from two
and a half back to five back after the Toronto series.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Right.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
That was the series that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Right.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Now, I was done before that.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
But that was the series, like, whatever... I was lying
in the grave. That was the series that dumped the
dirt on my body as I was lying in the grave.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
And maybe this series.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
It certainly didn't get me out of the grave, but
it might have lifted some of the dirt back out.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
But you're still five back.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
So you're saying that you were buried alive? Is that
what you're talking about? I was buried alive.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
But, you know, to your point on the lineup, I mean,
of course, I misspoke. Obviously, Laz is a lefty.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
They're not going to put a lefty in against a
lefty pitcher, even if he's good against lefty pitchers in
minor league. That's just not how Dan works. We know
how Dan... It took Dan four and a half freaking
months to start Dom Canzone.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Right.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, against both sides.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But he hits lefties.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
I understand that. And he had a great game yesterday.
You understand that.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
What are we doing, man?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Dan doesn't understand that.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
And it worked. It worked today.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
And one of the reasons, and I put this out,
remember I put the stat out the other day, the last...
The final game of the last 12 series, the Mariners
had been outscored 80-26. And one of those reasons is
these cockamamie lineups that Dan throws out in the final
game of the series. Because usually those come up on
short rest, day games, travel days. And he throws these

(04:19):
Weston Wilson cockamamie lineups out there. Now, at least it
worked today, but it usually doesn't.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, they've won four of their last six serieses and
three of the last four serieses. They need more than
just winning series. They need to go on a run here.
They need a 9-1 type run. They need to get
a couple of sweeps here, and they haven't done that since,
I believe, the Angels series, which was way back in
late June, early July, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, July

(04:48):
2nd was the last time the M's got a sweep,
so we're talking two months ago. But everything that I've
been relying on is the schedule, right? The schedule and
the bad division.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now, it may not matter. Maybe the Astros just keep
winning and the Rangers find a way to get hot
and whatever. But, all right, you made it. You made
it to Thursday, September 3rd. Let's hope the Astros lose
and you're four games out and you've got a schedule
that is absurdly easy compared to what the Rangers and
Astros have on their hands the rest of the way. So, look,

(05:19):
I mean, they've been given every gift in the book, right?
Every gift in the book. I mean, they've got the
worst division, the worst AL West division, in 32 years,
going back to 1994 when the work stoppage came and
everybody was well under 500. They've got a schedule that
looks like it comes straight from the minor leagues compared

(05:40):
to the Astros and the Rangers.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Cal Raleigh's getting hot.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
They brought up Laz Montes, who's providing a little bit
of energy, I think you agree, and some spark. They
are being given a lot of tools that a lot
of teams would want if they're in a tight race
in a division battle in September to make a run.
So let's see if they could take advantage of it.
I mean, they're not going to win this thing going away.
They're not going to win it by going, you know,

(06:05):
84 and 78. That's not going to happen. If they
win it, they might even be under 500. if they
win the division. But this is what my whole premise, Dick,
as you know, has been all about the division and
the schedule and not about them. Well, here they are
and they can start finally taking advantage of it starting tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
What's kind of depressing to me is that the Houston
Astros are six games over. 500 since the All-Star break.
I mean, that's a long period of time. That's not
like a couple of weeks. They're six games over since
the All-Star break, and that is despite losing two of
three against the A's and two of three against the Angels.
The teams that were supposed to go in and sweep

(06:45):
over the next couple of weeks, they actually beat Houston
two out of three and two out of three.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Now, will they continue to play... try to play baseball you.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Know deeper into the season it's a little bit easier
to play hard when you're the A's and it's August
21st versus September the 21st right but I mean it's
just Houston is not cooperating right now with.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
What we need them to do we'll see we'll.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
See I mean guys you know as well as I
the great thing about baseball is a lot can change
overnight of course I mean, two days, you know, you
play a three-game series, and two of them are Monday
and Tuesday night, and then you have a day game Wednesday.
By the time you go to bed on Wednesday or
we go on the air Wednesday, three games can change everything, right?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean, how about this?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
How about we just ask these guys, why do you
go in there and kick the A's ass for four
games in a row? Go sweep them. That is a
high school baseball team. Honestly, go sweep the A's four
games in a row.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Neat.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Enough of this three out of four, win the series, split.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Go in there and sweep them. Who do the Astros
have this weekend, by the way?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Arizona. Arizona? Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So go in there and sweep them, and maybe you
climb to within maybe three games by Monday. And then
people can really maybe start to think that this team's
got a chance to win this division. I will say
this right now on the 2nd of September, that no
matter what happens with the division, no matter what happens
in the playoffs this year, if they do make the playoffs,
the Mariners still have to make a lot of internal

(08:07):
changes to this thing over the offseason because.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
This ain't working.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
But the only thing that is working for you right
now is the fact that you're lucky enough to play
in a terrible, terrible division.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And that's why you're where you're at. We're going to break.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Petros Papadakis will join next, coming up on 93.3 KJRFM.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
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Speaker 3 (08:32):
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Speaker 4 (09:00):
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Speaker 3 (09:02):
All right, boys and girls, here we go on a
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Speaker 1 (09:06):
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(09:30):
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Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, we're all getting ready for the Apple Cup on Sunday.
I just have one question for you. Will there be
more people at Husky Stadium Sunday than we saw at
the USC-San Jose State game?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I saw you on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I saw you on X going after Seth Davis.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
You don't know who we are. You don't know what
we are. Pipe down, weirdo.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Listen, say whatever you want about Los Angeles. Look, first
of all, you sound like a jackass. Like, Can you
just not start, like, I have anxiety, I have to travel.
Could you just not start the show like, like, it sucks.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Okay? Like, I'm already having a, like, come on, dude.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Pipe down, weirdo.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
First of all, what I don't need is Seth Davis,
these people who come to Los Angeles who never leave, like,
one little suburban enclave. who know nothing about the giant
sprawl of the city or the way people are and
sit there and try to define what LA is and
who will show up for what and why.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Shut up, Seth Davis. But you're right. It is embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
There will be more people at the Apple Cup, of course.
And USC is supposed to be, as Lincoln Riley described yesterday,
a blue blood program. I know that things are different
as far as college football on TV and competition in
town with the NFL. But USC football, for the amount
of people in this town, should be a draw. And

(11:51):
I think it has to do with Lincoln Riley. I
think it has to do with Lincoln Riley's inability to
excite the city or reach out to the fan base
or alums or really do anything that makes him uncomfortable. Hell,
they had to hire a GM just to drag him
out to meet people at the.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Local high schools. Right.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So I think what happened with USC on Saturday against
San Jose State is a product of a few things,
but I think most of it is an indictment on
a program that has had a lot of expectation for
a long time and underachieved.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
All right, well, first of all, I'm sorry that you're
having anxiety. All right, well, don't be a d * * *.
I'm not being a d * * *. I'm trying
to empathize with you. What do you mean, ugh? That's you.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I know that you suffer from anxiety. I know it's
a real deal for you. I know how much you
hate travel. I know how much you hate people, and
I'm trying to be a little bit sympathetic to you.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Fine.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I mean, fine. God, F off, man. Holy crap.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
For all the crap that you give me about my
social media takes and Twitter behavior, I can't throw it
back at you just a little bit?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Huh? Come on, man. I didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I thought that that crowd over the weekend was embarrassing,
but it wasn't surprising. I mean, wasn't this the game
that they scheduled to replace like Notre Dame or something?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I suppose.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, it would be that or Fresno. I mean, they
were supposed to play Ole Miss. They were supposed to
play Texas Tech in a few weeks, and Lincoln Riley
doesn't want to play any of that. Wow. And I
think Lincoln Riley closes practice. He does nothing with the media.
This time, a few years ago, we had a bunch
of different.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Issues. Remember when he was trying to ban that media member? Right,
the kid. Yeah, the kid.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, it never ended. Like, this has been, this is
not a good fit. And it's not just Lincoln Riley.
I think it has something to do with the leadership
at USC, top to bottom. Presidential and the AD and Lincoln.
First of all, they're not on the same page and
they haven't been on the same page in years. And

(13:58):
that has caused problems for the university way beyond Lincoln Riley.
And I think that they haven't done enough to sell
the program in a time where there's more competition in town.
I played in the hottest game in the recorded history
of the Coliseum. And that was 1998 against Purdue and

(14:18):
Drew Brees' first start. We didn't know who he was
and he came out looking like freaking drew breeze and
it was shocking and we had a bunch of cheerleaders
and freaking band members on ivs and halftime and all
that and there were 85 90 000 people there yeah
2009 matt barkley's freshman year when he was a starter

(14:42):
pete carroll's last year before he went to seattle they
played san jose state in the opener there was 80
000 85 000.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
People there.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
They played Western Michigan a few years back on a
very hot day, and there was a whole bunch of
people there. USC's raised the prices. I think it's a
big problem that they have down at San Diego State, too.
They've made it too expensive. They've raised the prices. They've
made the tailgate situation super expensive and very, very limited.
It's just not as desirable as it used to be.

(15:14):
And I think that they have to look at themselves
and say, what are we? And, okay, I think it's
great that you beat San Jose State. You petered out
in the third quarter like you always did. I don't
care who you played.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
And then San.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Jose ends up having a great second half and being
able to celebrate their quarterback on social media and all
that and feeling positive about the trip. And at the
end of the day, USC beating San Jose State by
16 points if you're trying to get into the college
football playoff later in the year. I don't think that
helps as much as playing Notre Dame week one. So

(15:49):
all of it is just very, it's all very, it's
pretty standard operating stuff for our talks about USC over
the years, Softee.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Okay. All right. But will there be more people at
the Wofford-Kent State games? than there was at the USC.
Is it at Kent State? Yes, it's at Kent State.
How many does it hold? I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I got no idea, man. I didn't realize this was
such a sore spot for you. I thought you were
the guy leading the charge. I'm not in a bad mood.
USC has to change that. No, no, I'm just in
a bad mood. USC, look, I don't know. Fresno's going
to be a tougher, more physical opponent.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
And it's going to be a Friday night. They're playing
tomorrow night or the weekday after tomorrow. And it's, are
you giggling?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
A little.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Why? Can I not laugh? No, you can laugh all
you want.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I'm sorry. I feel like Forrest Gump. You know, it's
a Labor Day weekend, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
What was the name of the character?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Friday, Labor Day weekend, Los Angeles traffic, Friday night, the Coliseum.
I don't know how many people are going to be there, Softie.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
What was the name of the character that Tom Hanks
played in Castaway? The guy that was on. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. Hey, remember all the crap
you gave us for the George Springer thing?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You wouldn't let up. Remember all that? Remember how mad
I got at you on the air? This is just
kind of giving you back a little bit.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
This is nothing like that. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, how'd they look, though? Because we're going to see
you guys in week five. Hopefully you'll be doing the
national radio call. Is that done, by the way?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yes, that is done. Great. Great.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
So we'll see you then. But we're coming down there.
You guys got the Ducks before you play UW. How
did Jaden Maiva look? You talked about him petering out
in the second half, which a lot of teams do that.
Lay off the gas. I don't know if that's what
Lincoln did. He looked okay. He missed a couple reads.
San Jose's a lot better than they were last year,
I think. And they weren't that bad last year, but

(17:46):
they had some hard luck losses. But they're a way
spread out team. Sometimes it's hard to gauge because San
Jose State's style, they have the big splits on the lines.
and they have everything as a run read or a
RPO type of read with the offense. Half of their
runs come off of a double read. So it's not

(18:10):
the traditional offense that you would play in college football
week in and week out. They played a lot of
young people, and they have this big DN, Wayfull, who's
supposed to be a big star. And the tight end, right? Bauman,
who's a big star. And then Mosley, the receiver. who's
a big star, and they're all freshmen, and that's great. But,

(18:31):
I mean, when you have a bunch of freshmen and
they're playing and you're touting up your freshman class, to
me it just sounds like you're going to lose five
games and you're going to sit there and tell everybody, you.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Can't fire us. Look at this class that we have.
Look at our freshman class.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, well, UW's playing a lot of guys against the Cougs.
They got three guys starting on the line of scrimmage
as 18-year-olds, two defensive linemen, and then one kid named
Cody Green, who spent a couple years at Matter Day.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
And then came back to Seattle.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
He's going to start at left tackle against the Cougs
on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
But I don't know. There's a lot of folks up here.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Petros think the Apple Cup might be going away after
the next couple years.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, you said that last time. I think that's sad.
I think they should play the Apple Cup. And I
think who knows. We never know what kind of shape
Washington State football is going to be in. And last year,
Washington State football was not a helpless team. And the
year before, they were a really good team with a very,
very special quarterback. So I don't know why anybody would

(19:32):
say that. I don't know why that would be a topic.
I don't think it's an unwinnable game year in and
year out.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Cougar fans don't care. They don't care.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
They don't want to play the game anymore. Did you
hear about the latest controversy with the Cougar marching band,
by the way?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So they're pissed off that the Huskies are not giving...
them good enough free seats for the game. So they're
not coming to the game Sunday.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, you don't want to talk. I mean, it's the
Apple Cup. You don't want to talk the band up
into the middle of nowhere. I mean, that's where they
go now.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
They stick the opposing band in the upper deck in
the corner like Oregon.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Is that what you guys do to them? Or is
that what they do to you when you guys are
at Pullman? Well, they play in a high school stadium,
so they don't have really an upper deck to stick us. Yeah,
but do they put you up higher? All right, you're
going to be like this about it. You're going to
be insubordinate. It's the truth.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Their stadium's half the size. What do you want from me?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I don't want anything.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
You know, I want the Apple Cup to continue.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think you're being very difficult. I don't think you're representing...
the argument in the.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Way that it's supposed to be represented. What argument?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
The ban goes up in the upper deck. I think
that Patrick Chun, or what's the name of your? Pat Chun,
your AD, should do a better job of accommodating the
Cougar ban.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
No! Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Well, they can sell those tickets for a lot of money.
That's what the Big Ten's doing now. I think they're
all sticking their bands up in the upper deck now.
That's what everybody does because they need the cash.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, okay, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
You can Big Ten yourself to death, but this is
the Apple Cup, and it's not really a Big Ten thing.
It's a Washington, Washington State thing, even though you guys
have a Big Ten logo on the jersey. So you're
taking the side of the Cougs. You're taking the side
of the Cougs on this one. In this regard, I am.
But in the regard that Cougar fans don't want to
play the Apple Cup anymore, I'm taking the side of
the Dawgs.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Well, I'm not sure if the Dawgs will play it either.
To show my impartiality. I'm sure the dogs want to
play it. I'm not sure about that. We're going to
talk to Pat Chun on Friday. We'll get his thoughts
on all that on Friday's show. But, I don't know,
Petro's with us. You're heading to Michigan this weekend. Where
are you going this weekend? What game do you have?
This weekend I have Michigan State hosting Toledo, which will

(21:49):
be interesting.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Pat Fitzgerald's debut. Former Northwestern coach.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, and he's a very celebrated coach, especially in the
Big Ten. So that'll be cool. And then I'm coming home, actually,
to do the second one. So I'm going to do
the second one remotely on Saturday night. Maybe the only
one I do remotely all year.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
And that will be Albuquerque.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
New Mexico's team with Jason Eck hosting Central Michigan.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, he's a hot name. Jason Eck is a great coach.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
And I was really impressed with him last year from
what he had done with the Idaho football team. And
he did the same model as Signetti in many ways
with the Indiana. And then Bob Chesney, same school with
UCLA from JMU. And then this guy at Toledo, who's
playing Friday night, Mike Jacobs is the Mercer coach. And

(22:45):
half their players are from Mercer that they brought. They
had a lot of success in Georgia, the Mercer team,
at a lower level. So, I mean, it's just a
big formula. But Jason Eck was the guy who did
that with Idaho. and brought his son, who's the Mike
linebacker and a big star and the captain of the team,
and he's a really likable guy. And you meet him
and you like him and you want to be part

(23:08):
of his team, you know, it feels like when you
get around him. They have never had anything like that
at New Mexico. And Bronco did a pretty good job
there a couple years with that quarterback, Zampier, or Dampier,
and I think that obviously Erlacher and all that, but
this is This guy's a special coach. I'm not sure
how long he'll be there, but we have them on

(23:28):
Saturday night. Well, Friday night, Toledo, Michigan State from East
Lansing on FS1 at 5.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You can check out Petros on TV.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Why did UCLA fire their AD so close to the
start of the football season?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think they fired their AD like a year ago.
He just didn't know it?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, he didn't know he was fired, and he was
still collecting a check, but At UCLA, it takes a
really long time to get anything done. Get the word
to somebody that they've been terminated. Yeah, ask your old
friend Jim Mora about it. I mean, that was one
of the things that frustrated Jim Mora for a long time,
that if he wanted to fire a coach or hire

(24:10):
a coach, it took him, you know, two, three, four
times as long through the UC system. And all the
different approval you have to get, all the signatures you
have to go through, all the bureaucracy of, of California
education and what is called the UC system. So I
think that probably had something to do with it. This

(24:30):
guy's been operating at a pretty heavy debt. And beyond that,
and they can blame that, no one's going to say
anything because the debt's been embarrassing. And they were in
debt before they started playing players. UCLA's in debt because
they have like a cat juggling team. They have a
team for everything ever in the history of sports. But
I think that he got fired because whatever you feel

(24:53):
about Chip Kelly, you can't say that Jarman didn't screw
up the Chip Kelly situation. And then letting him go
and hiring Deshaun Foster like that was going to be okay, nobody,
no AD was going to survive that. So that's what happened.
It just takes a long time to get the word.
It's like the Pony Express, like you said, at UCLA.

(25:15):
You didn't know the Civil War ended until like three
months after.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
It was over. Right. We landed on the moon. By
the way, did you see this story?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
There's a book out about Lane Kiffin, some guy named
John Talty, I think is his name, and Vanity Fair
ran an excerpt from it today where there's a quote
from Nick Saban when they were at Alabama together, and
Saban said, according to one former coach, you've got to
keep Lane away from the girls that are in college.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Just keep him away from.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
The sorority girls that Make sure they've graduated college or
are working a job, said Nick Saban. Does that surprise
you he would say that about your old buddy Lane Kiffin?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
No. God, he is just, you know what?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
What?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
What do you want me to say about it? No,
you were going to ask a question. That he's a clown?
Is that what you want me to say? Well, is he? Well,
it seems so. According to Nick Saban. I did not
think he could get any greasier, man.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I mean, there are as many stories about Lane Kiffin
than there are about Errol Flynn.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know, like, it's, you know. Let's just say Mike
Price is not even close. Really?

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
It's that bad?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Wow well yeah you know and the thing that really
bothers me the most about it is he's like into
hot yoga and it's like i do hot yoga you
know what i mean and it's like i'm a hot
yoga bad name right yes it totally is like i'm
not in there to be all creepy and look at
everybody's ass or anything but i mean i don't know
if he is either but uh that's not the first
time i've heard that about lane kiffin it's not the

(26:59):
first thing i've uh i've i've uh it's not the
first vibe i've gotten and i'm sure it won't be
the last i guess well did that book just come
out Yeah, apparently, yeah. It's like an expose book about
Lane Kiven. You should talk about it on your show today.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Maybe I will. That's an idea.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
All right.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Hey, text me when you land in East Lansing so
I know you're safe. Will you?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Why?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
What's the matter?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I just want to check on you, man. I know
it's a hard thing to do to travel sometimes.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
It'll be early in the morning for me. That's fine.
Shoot me a text. It's the red eye, which really
also upsets me. Oh, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
And then I land and I can't go to sleep.
I have to go straight to the meetings. And, like,
whenever I do the meetings after the red eye, like,
the coaches are always like, what's wrong with that guy?

Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's like, dude, I'll tell you what's wrong with me.
I get it, man. I get it.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
All right.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Have fun out there as much as you can. And
we'll talk at the Apple Cup.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm supposed to do this thing called Petros' postcards and, like,
take pictures of myself wherever I go.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
And it's like, I'm miserable. Anyway, sorry for yelling at you.
That's okay. That's okay. It was embarrassing for USC. All right.
I'm glad that you admitted that.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean, when Tosh Lupoi and the guy in Lubbock,
Joey McGuire, like when Cal is making fun of you about.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Attendance, that's bad. That's bad.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
All right.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
We'll talk in a week. We've got to run.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
See you, man. Petros Papadakis with us. We're going to
break Larry Stone at 5, talking Mavis and more. Courtesy
of the Ram on 93.3 KJRFM.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
All the things you say to me on Twitter, all
the things you do,

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