September 3, 2026 • 25 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Jerry Brewer about Bryce Miller talking about the 2025 weight on the 2026 Mariners, Lane Kiffin’s behavior with LSU, and the Apple Cup, then the guys continue to talk about the state of rivalry games in college football including how other rivalries are with all the big conference changes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
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Speaker 5 (00:44):
All right, here we go from Jimmy. He's getting ready
for game one of four against the A's. Jerry Brewer
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I want to play a clip for you if we can.
I don't know if you heard the Bryce Miller interview
from the last segment. I know you're a big fan
of the radio show, and you support us and tune
in as much as you can. Did you happen to
(01:04):
hear that conversation, by the way, last segment?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, I didn't. I was writing. Otherwise, I would have listened.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Just another lame excuse, man. I mean, doing your job.
What are you doing? Just terrible.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Well, Bryce was on with us, and he made a
comment during the interview where he talked about how he
thought that they were talking about what happened last year, right, Dick?
Way too much during the season. And so we asked
him a follow-up, like, you know, what do you mean
by that? What does that look like when you're talking
about how you were talking about last year's season? too
much during this season. I want to play a clip
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for you, Jerry, if I can, about a minute long, okay?
And then get your reaction to it. This is Bryce Miller.
We followed up and we asked him, when you talk
about the team, maybe discussing 2025 a little bit too
much during this year.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What do you mean by that? Check it out.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Coming into this season in spring training and just about
every single meeting that we've had as a team up
until about a month ago, it was every single time,
you know, it comes up of, Oh, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Last year we did this.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Last year we were in the ALCS. Last year we
almost went to the World Series. And I think there
comes a point where we recognize that, you know, we
had a good season last year and we have expectations
that we want to meet. But there also comes a
point where you got to let go of that. This
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is a new season. what we did last year has
nothing to do with what we do this year. And
we just got to go out there and play, you know,
it is, it wouldn't have mattered if we were in
the world series last year or not, that's not going
to change the results that we have this year.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I think that's.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
You know, something that we, we kind of, as a
team talked about in our, our last meeting was like,
all right, whatever our expectations were, whatever happened last year,
it's done.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We can't relive it.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
You know, it's, it's, We're living now. We're living in
a new season with new difficulties and new opportunities. And,
you know, it's time to move on and go out
and win today and win this series, win this month
and get into the postseason and make a new story.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Any thoughts on that, Jerry?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Well, first of all, Bryce is a damn good quote. Like,
I think he's one of my favorites on the team.
It seems like he just is always incredibly honest. And
I would also say that I think this explains a
lot of why it feels like this year has weighed
so heavily on the players individually.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And, you know, this is the kind of.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Thing, like once the season starts, like you can use
that as Last year, off-season motivation. Last year, spring training motivation.
But I think once the year gets started, you're trying
to create something new. It's not the same 26 players.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Not the exact same group.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Like, you don't get to start a new season in
the eighth or ninth inning of game seven of the ALCS.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You got to get all the way back. And just like,
I mean, I hate to.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Make the comparison with the Seahawks and the Mariners, but
I'm going to, maybe it's lazy, but I'm just going.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
To do it.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Uh, I don't hear a lot unless you ask the
Seahawks about them being champions. And you may be a
little bit annoyed about how, uh, Mike McDonald has, has
framed his messaging about like, not exactly like defending the title.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like you're going to go get something new, trying to
take this.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Thing as far as you can, uh, That's the right
messaging for a team because the only thing that matters
is today.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
Well, you brought up the comparison, so I'm going to
take it another step further. I mean, the Seahawks have
a sign in the VMAC that says consistent championship expectations.
And the Mariners have told us that they have consistent
competitive expectations.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
So.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
And that kind of marries into what Bryce Miller is saying.
It's like, hey, we did such a great job last year.
We're living off of that. What I would love to know, Jerry,
is who was bringing that up? Was it a Dan
Wilson thing? Was it a Jerry DiPoto thing? Was it
a players thing? What was your vibe when you heard
him say? Who do you think was bringing that up?
Speaker 7 (05:35):
I mean, it seemed like the conversations they were having
as an entire team. So I would assume that's starting
with the manager.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Um, but yeah, I would love to, you.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Know, depending on what the answer to that is, you
can go a lot of different directions with it. But
I think some of that inevitably has to be a
part of Dan's messaging. And I would just say that
that messaging is just wrong. And I don't think that
it's ill intent. And I think the reason that we're
talking about this is, uh, because of like greater problems
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within the team. And we can just kind of feast
on this specific emotional motivational type of thing.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're bigger problems.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
But this is something tangible that we can lean on.
I mean, I feel all year, and again, there's a
lot of other stuff, injuries, playing in the baseball classic
and all of that that goes into Cal's season, but
there's been a weight on Cal, and I feel like
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Cal felt like he had to have the perfect encore
for a 60 home run season, and that just was
never going to happen again, guys. And I think trying
to be the Cal Raleigh of 2025 may have cost
him like a 40 home run season, which would have
been beautiful. And like, you know, beyond what you should
expect from your catcher, who is just like an incredible
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defensive catcher as well. And so I think there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Of other things there. I mean, you.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Know, I still hear the recording of Julio, you know,
hollering in pain after that game seven and, I feel
like he's been back in game seven of the ALCS
a lot this year. They should have flushed that in April, guys.
Should have flushed it in April because once again this
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year they got behind. And, yeah, like it's a little thing. But, again,
we're talking about two, three games, four games here or
there is the difference between– feeling like you're in perfect
position for where you should be versus where they are
right now, which is, what, eight under, and, you know, really,
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really having to grind and catch up these last 22
games just to get to 81 and 81.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I mean, this A's thing, I think people say things like, oh,
they got to win them all. They got to win
them all. I mean, come on, right? Like, you need
to win all of these games this week, these four games.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Against the A's and get back in this thing because
you're going to have to go, even if Houston Jerry
goes 11-10 the rest of the way, you've got to
go 17-5 just to catch him, which is 125 win
pace over the final 22 games of the year. So, yeah,
they've got to win them all. But Jerry Brewer is
with us on the radio show. I know you're a
big college football guy. You love the game the way
(08:26):
we do. What do you make of what Lane Kiffin's
doing at LSU? He's being sued now by his own
conference for his refusal to drop this idea of bringing
former pro players back to college.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
It's embarrassing and it's a bad look for Lane. And
it's another thing where Lane always needs to be in
a place where there's a strong leadership and people who
can push back on him. And it's clear that after
their recent struggles, which haven't even been that long with
Brian Kelly, they're just desperate to do whatever it takes
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to get back to that where they feel like they're
LSU and competing for a title. I think it's weird.
And we know, you guys know how long it takes
to get people to understand this game and all of this.
I think it's weird that you want that many new
players this late. And I don't care that they were
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in NFL camps.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They're not superstars.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
And I can't imagine that that they would be like
appreciably better than.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Everyone else is on the roster.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
But this is just tells you like, he hates a
lot of the guys on the roster or he just
feels like they're all disposable and he just wants to
do what's best for lane in the moment. But, um,
you know, this lawlessness, you know, it's exposing like his
worst instincts as a leader. And it's embarrassing to me that, um,
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LSU doesn't have the leadership, you know, um, you know,
in the administration, the upper administration, and certainly not the
leadership within the athletic department to say, dude, like, enough
is enough. And not just Lane, you know, it's Will
Wade as well. They're making a mockery out of college
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or what's left of college athletics. And we're not asking
for much. We're just asking not to do this dumb stuff.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Jerry, we've gotten to traditional Apple Cup weekend, Sunday in September.
Nothing says Apple Cup like Sunday in September. But what
does the future of this rivalry look like to you?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I mean, I hope they still play it. I mean, obviously,
like I know, it's very much in jeopardy. And I
feel like a.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Lot of it is what exactly do the Cougs want
to do here, you know? I.
From Washington's standpoint, do they absolutely need to play the
game to get to where they want to go?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Of course not.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
But should they want to continue the rivalry for what
it means to their fans and the others?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Absolutely they should. Um, and you know, I'm a big proponent.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
It doesn't matter if it's Kentucky versus Louisville or Oklahoma
versus Oklahoma state.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And they're not playing right now. Washington versus Washington state.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Like I, the rivalry games, you know, especially if it's
within the state, the rivalry games are what makes the
sport for me. And I mean, we're already having a
deal with like this apple cup floating from date to
date to date. And so it's already different. And the
tradition is not the same. But I do want it
to continue. I was reminding my wife earlier this week,
(11:51):
who's a UW grad, like, hey.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The Apple Cup is Sunday. And she's like, that's not
the Apple Cup. It's not the Apple Cup to me anymore.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
And I was like, man, that's incredibly sad, and it
really speaks poorly on the sport, a sport that we're
going to keep watching whatever form it is, guys, right?
But it sucks that we just can't have nice things
anymore anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, your point about, you know, they should keep it
going for the fans, I'm not sure if Cougar fans
want this to continue, honestly. I mean, I think that's
the whole key to this entire process. Do Wazoo fans
want this thing to continue? You know, Dick and I
have been talking all week long that all the Cougs
in our building, Jerry, they're not even going to the game.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They don't give a damn.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So do they want this? Would you want this thing
to continue if you were a Cougar fan?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I would want the thing to continue.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
And also, I mean, this is year three when they're
not in the same conference, right? And did the Cougs
not win that first game?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
And did that not define a lot of their joy
for that season and set them on a good path
until they kind of hit the skids.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Later that year? Like, I just.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Especially if I'm the school that people somehow perceive as
like little brother, I always want to play big brother,
you know, like I'll cause I, and you can, you
can hand it to me eight straight times, but that
ninth time that I beat you, I'm talking and I'm
talking and I'm talking. And if I got to talk
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about it for a whole nother decade or half decade,
I'm doing it right. Like that, that game still benefits you.
And you have to look at it practically like, If
you don't do this game, how many Big Ten teams
are you going to be able to play?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right? Like, hey, if you're.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Not in the Big Ten or the SEC, you need
to be playing a Big Ten or SEC opponent. You know, like,
I mean, when you think about greater implications, you know,
for the year when you go 11-1 and you want
some legitimacy to be in the playoff conversations. Um, if
you're just boxed out of all that, they'll just look
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at you and they'll say, well, you know, I think
this eight and.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Four Oklahoma team is better than you. You didn't play nobody,
you know?
Speaker 7 (14:15):
So, um, you have to think about the, the, the
bigger picture and all of that. And I, and I mean,
I get the frustration and really.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
With Coug fans a lot.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
But I just do not follow that track of, like,
I don't want to play my rival. I think Oklahoma
State's bitterness towards Oklahoma has done Oklahoma State a real disservice,
and they should be playing that game. And I don't
want that to happen. Don't forget, I'm from the Commonwealth
of Kentucky. I won't just call it the state.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And my core memory growing up, guys... is.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
March 26, 1983. We call that the dream game. What
happened in that game? Louisville and Kentucky had to play
each other in the Elite Eight for the right to
go to the Final Four. And Louisville, the Doctors of Dunk,
beat Kentucky 80-68 in.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Overtime in that game.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
It's the first time they had played in forever because
Kentucky would not schedule Louisville. And what happened as a
result of that game? Um, they put it into state law.
that Kentucky and Louisville have to play once a year,
once a year.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now, I mean, you could also.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Say like, Hey, like in, in, in, in the Commonwealth
of Kentucky, don't they have greater concerns about whether the
university of Kentucky and university of Louisville play?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Um, but like basketball.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Is everything in our state and they, all those state
legislators got together and they put it in the law
that Kentucky and Louisville has to play.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And for the last, you.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Know, 43 years, you know, they've, they've played every year.
There was a, there was a year in which, um,
for pandemic reasons, they had to kind of move it
and it was going to move, you know, um, instead
of being a game in December, kind of in the January.
And like, it was a thing about like whether somebody
was violating state law or not, like that was among
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like a little bit of the conversation just because they
needed to push the.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Game back a little, but it matters that much. And, um, Uh,
you know, like.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Washington, Washington state football isn't quite the same as like
Kentucky Louisville basketball when it's like the only thing we
care about in that damn state.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Uh, but.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
I was born in the like believing that your two
central rivals in the same state need to play each
other and that there is an incredible social value. And
I'll stand on that, you know, even though I'm 2,500
miles away from there.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Jerry, great stuff. Always appreciate it. Let's catch up very soon.
Don't be a stranger and love having.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You on, man. Thanks, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
All right, any time, fellas. Take it easy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You bet.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Jerry Brewer, we should talk about this, by the way,
because there are some differences in Kentucky versus Louisville versus
UW and Wazoo.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
We'll come back and chat about some of that next
on 93.3 KJRFM.
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Looking up on the TV, and I see Georgia Tech
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and Colorado playing right now.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Rutgers is getting hammered by UMass. I mean, it's just unbelievable, man.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
A Big Ten team is getting slaughtered 27-7 by UMass.
That's not great for them and not great for the
Big Ten depth at all. They might be one of
the worst teams in college football. But Colorado Georgia Tech
scoreless in the first quarter.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I believe that game is in Atlanta. Apple Cup coming
up on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Interesting conversation last segment with Jerry Brewer about the future
of the Apple Cup. He's saying, look, if he was
a Cougar fan, he would like to see this thing continue.
And he brought up the Kentucky-Louisville series in Kentucky, to
which if we had more time, I would have maybe
kind of pushed back a little bit and said, well,
the Kentucky-Louisville thing is a little bit different because both
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teams are on more even playing fields now.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Than UW and Wazoo. Absolutely. Wouldn't you say so?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I mean, both teams have won championships in basketball. They
played in the Final Four. You could argue that Kentucky
and Louisville are like Duke and North Carolina, right, on
the same level of success, the two of them.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So I think Washington.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
State, unfortunately, because I keep catching myself this week, Dick,
I swear to God, I keep asking myself, man, we've
got to talk more about the game, like the matchup
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
To me.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
The almost number one topic around the Apple Cup is
will it come to an end?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I mean, that to me is the prevailing topic of
discussion around this game on Sunday. Will this be one
of the last few Apple Cups that we'll see in
a while? Like you and I did the heights and
weights of the Cougar offensive and defensive line. Way undersized
on the defensive line. Offensive line, not so much. But
everything points to another slaughter by UW on Sunday. And
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I just wonder, man, if Cougar fans are going to
have a stomach to keep this thing going.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Well, I thought Jerry had a great quote when he said,
if you're Washington State, you have to play someone in
the Big Ten or the SEC.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And that wasn't just a Washington State edict.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
He said, if you're not in the Big Ten or
the SEC, you need to play someone every year in
the Big Ten or or the.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
SEC, because he's right.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
I mean, if you're a team like Washington State and
you happen to pop and have a good season, let's
say you're an 11-1 Washington State team, but your 11
wins are against the Pac-12 and then Eastern Washington and
Portland State and Utah State, and you don't have a
Big Ten win or an SEC win on your radar,
you're not going.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, here's where I'd be coming from if I were
a Cougar fan. If I'm going to get destroyed by somebody...
I'd rather it be somebody else besides my neighbor because
I'm not going to hear it from Oregon fans all
year long. Boise State's playing Oregon this year. Fresno State's
playing USC. You lose those games, you lose those games.
Those are just non-conference games, and they happen all the time, whatever.
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But there's a point of pride, I think, still for
Cougar fans when it comes to playing Washington.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
San Diego State's playing UCLA.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
So I'm just, first glance, it looks like most teams
in the Pac-12 do have a non-conference game. Utah State
plays us, and they're in the Pac-12. Who do the
Beavers play? The Beavers have a game on their schedule.
They got Texas Tech in the Big 12. But why
not just play somebody else? If we're going to get killed,
why get murdered by my neighbor who's going to bust
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my balls all year long about it?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Well, I mean, are the Huskies really going to bust
the Cougars' balls about it anymore? I mean, have you
talked a lot of smack to Cougars the last year
since that game?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I haven't, but I think it's more likely than not
that Husky fans would compared to a Trojan fan.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
I just don't know how accessible those games are to
Washington State. Now, if John Harlow, the AD at Wazoo,
finds multiple suitors... in the Big Ten and the SEC
or high-level Big 12 teams or high-level ACC teams, Florida State,
that type of team, if he can find multiple suitors
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every year that are willing to play that.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Game, then fine. But if he can't?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You've got it in hand right now.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
All you've got to do is say yes, and you've
got your yearly Big Ten opponent.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I get it. I also get why a Cougar fan
would say, I don't want any part of this anymore.
We had a series with Gonzaga going in basketball, interstate
rivalry that just went way too far the other way,
and Lorenzo Romar said, screw this. And then Danny Sprinkles said,
screw this, and he canceled the series.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Right, but that's also.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Different, though, because we're also playing really good teams on
our basketball schedule.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Dick, here's my point. My point is that I think
finances are important. I totally agree, but I think that
in the end, people are human beings, and they're going
to get tired of getting run every single year by
their rival when they used to be on a way
more even playing field, and now they're not.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So I'm just saying I understand it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
If Cougar fans want to pull the plug on this
thing after 2028, I mean, hell, I got buddies of mine.
You've met him. He was sitting right here two weeks ago.
That think that, you know, it may be over after
this year. They may just say the hell with it
after this season. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I remember 2001. Sorry, we went to Miami.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
And we played the Hurricanes. And we got killed 65-7.
Because it was postponed. Because of the Hurricane.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
But, well, it was 9-11 is what postponed it. 9-11,
you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I remember asking Rick Neuheisel, or somebody else asked Rick Neuheisel,
it may have been Reynolds, by the way, do you
want to see the series with Miami continue?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He said no. He was done.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
He was finished with Miami after that game. So I
do think the human element, Dick, at some point does
show up.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I would just say to the Cougar fans that don't
want to continue the rivalry... Are you okay with the
very real possibility that five years from now, or even
less than five years from now, the best team you
will ever play every year is Boise State?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, but like you said, unless they can schedule another opponent, right?
Like other teams in the Pac-12 are doing. I know
Texas State plays... Texas, I don't know if that's been
a yearly thing for them. I don't think it is
a yearly thing for Texas State. They didn't play them
in 24, didn't play them in 25. They got them
this year, by the way. So good for them. If
they can get Texas on their schedule every year, great, right?
(24:13):
But I think if you can replace it, what I
would tell John Harlow if I were a Cougar fan
is this. If you can replace it with somebody else,
if you can get me USC, UCLA. You can get
me Minnesota, whatever. Anybody in the Big Ten, let's do that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I'm getting tired of getting crushed by these guys, and
it's personal. It's personal for me. They left us. They
put us in a hard spot or helped put us
in a hard spot, and now they're drilling us every year.
We can't afford to even, you know, I mean, dude, Dick,
their quarterback's making $ 250, 000. Our quarterback's making $ 4 million in 2026.
It's just a totally different animal.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Wow, what they're paying the Coug quarterbacks just got cut
since the Cam Ward era, right?
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Oh, yeah, big time. Heck, Cam Ward's truck was worth
more than. Right. But why is that? Because they were
a Pac-12 team. That's right. They were an FBS team.
That's right. I'm not saying Pac-12. Well, they're an FBS team.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
They're just not a. They were an FBS team. They
were a power four team. It was totally different when
Cam Ward was there, and now it's not.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I think we all got to agree that there is
a possibility that this is not going to continue.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No doubt. Let's get a break.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We'll do some testimonials, get caught up on that, because
we had Bryce Miller on earlier today at 445. We're
going to get to the pregame show at 6, courtesy
of Pemko here from the Skipper. Rick Neuheisel as well,
all coming up on a Thursday from Jimmy's on 93.3 KJRFM.
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 5 (00:44):
All right, here we go from Jimmy. He's getting ready
for game one of four against the A's. Jerry Brewer
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I want to play a clip for you if we can.
I don't know if you heard the Bryce Miller interview
from the last segment. I know you're a big fan
of the radio show, and you support us and tune
in as much as you can. Did you happen to
(01:04):
hear that conversation, by the way, last segment?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, I didn't. I was writing. Otherwise, I would have listened.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Just another lame excuse, man. I mean, doing your job.
What are you doing? Just terrible.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Well, Bryce was on with us, and he made a
comment during the interview where he talked about how he
thought that they were talking about what happened last year, right, Dick?
Way too much during the season. And so we asked
him a follow-up, like, you know, what do you mean
by that? What does that look like when you're talking
about how you were talking about last year's season? too
much during this season. I want to play a clip
(01:37):
for you, Jerry, if I can, about a minute long, okay?
And then get your reaction to it. This is Bryce Miller.
We followed up and we asked him, when you talk
about the team, maybe discussing 2025 a little bit too
much during this year.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What do you mean by that? Check it out.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Coming into this season in spring training and just about
every single meeting that we've had as a team up
until about a month ago, it was every single time,
you know, it comes up of, Oh, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Last year we did this.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Last year we were in the ALCS. Last year we
almost went to the World Series. And I think there
comes a point where we recognize that, you know, we
had a good season last year and we have expectations
that we want to meet. But there also comes a
point where you got to let go of that. This
(02:27):
is a new season. what we did last year has
nothing to do with what we do this year. And
we just got to go out there and play, you know,
it is, it wouldn't have mattered if we were in
the world series last year or not, that's not going
to change the results that we have this year.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I think that's.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
You know, something that we, we kind of, as a
team talked about in our, our last meeting was like,
all right, whatever our expectations were, whatever happened last year,
it's done.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We can't relive it.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
You know, it's, it's, We're living now. We're living in
a new season with new difficulties and new opportunities. And,
you know, it's time to move on and go out
and win today and win this series, win this month
and get into the postseason and make a new story.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Any thoughts on that, Jerry?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Well, first of all, Bryce is a damn good quote. Like,
I think he's one of my favorites on the team.
It seems like he just is always incredibly honest. And
I would also say that I think this explains a
lot of why it feels like this year has weighed
so heavily on the players individually.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And, you know, this is the kind of.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Thing, like once the season starts, like you can use
that as Last year, off-season motivation. Last year, spring training motivation.
But I think once the year gets started, you're trying
to create something new. It's not the same 26 players.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Not the exact same group.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Like, you don't get to start a new season in
the eighth or ninth inning of game seven of the ALCS.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You got to get all the way back. And just like,
I mean, I hate to.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Make the comparison with the Seahawks and the Mariners, but
I'm going to, maybe it's lazy, but I'm just going.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
To do it.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Uh, I don't hear a lot unless you ask the
Seahawks about them being champions. And you may be a
little bit annoyed about how, uh, Mike McDonald has, has
framed his messaging about like, not exactly like defending the title.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like you're going to go get something new, trying to
take this.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Thing as far as you can, uh, That's the right
messaging for a team because the only thing that matters
is today.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
Well, you brought up the comparison, so I'm going to
take it another step further. I mean, the Seahawks have
a sign in the VMAC that says consistent championship expectations.
And the Mariners have told us that they have consistent
competitive expectations.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
So.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
And that kind of marries into what Bryce Miller is saying.
It's like, hey, we did such a great job last year.
We're living off of that. What I would love to know, Jerry,
is who was bringing that up? Was it a Dan
Wilson thing? Was it a Jerry DiPoto thing? Was it
a players thing? What was your vibe when you heard
him say? Who do you think was bringing that up?
Speaker 7 (05:35):
I mean, it seemed like the conversations they were having
as an entire team. So I would assume that's starting
with the manager.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Um, but yeah, I would love to, you.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Know, depending on what the answer to that is, you
can go a lot of different directions with it. But
I think some of that inevitably has to be a
part of Dan's messaging. And I would just say that
that messaging is just wrong. And I don't think that
it's ill intent. And I think the reason that we're
talking about this is, uh, because of like greater problems
(06:08):
within the team. And we can just kind of feast
on this specific emotional motivational type of thing.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're bigger problems.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
But this is something tangible that we can lean on.
I mean, I feel all year, and again, there's a
lot of other stuff, injuries, playing in the baseball classic
and all of that that goes into Cal's season, but
there's been a weight on Cal, and I feel like
(06:38):
Cal felt like he had to have the perfect encore
for a 60 home run season, and that just was
never going to happen again, guys. And I think trying
to be the Cal Raleigh of 2025 may have cost
him like a 40 home run season, which would have
been beautiful. And like, you know, beyond what you should
expect from your catcher, who is just like an incredible
(07:02):
defensive catcher as well. And so I think there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Of other things there. I mean, you.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Know, I still hear the recording of Julio, you know,
hollering in pain after that game seven and, I feel
like he's been back in game seven of the ALCS
a lot this year. They should have flushed that in April, guys.
Should have flushed it in April because once again this
(07:28):
year they got behind. And, yeah, like it's a little thing. But, again,
we're talking about two, three games, four games here or
there is the difference between– feeling like you're in perfect
position for where you should be versus where they are
right now, which is, what, eight under, and, you know, really,
(07:49):
really having to grind and catch up these last 22
games just to get to 81 and 81.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I mean, this A's thing, I think people say things like, oh,
they got to win them all. They got to win
them all. I mean, come on, right? Like, you need
to win all of these games this week, these four games.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Against the A's and get back in this thing because
you're going to have to go, even if Houston Jerry
goes 11-10 the rest of the way, you've got to
go 17-5 just to catch him, which is 125 win
pace over the final 22 games of the year. So, yeah,
they've got to win them all. But Jerry Brewer is
with us on the radio show. I know you're a
big college football guy. You love the game the way
(08:26):
we do. What do you make of what Lane Kiffin's
doing at LSU? He's being sued now by his own
conference for his refusal to drop this idea of bringing
former pro players back to college.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
It's embarrassing and it's a bad look for Lane. And
it's another thing where Lane always needs to be in
a place where there's a strong leadership and people who
can push back on him. And it's clear that after
their recent struggles, which haven't even been that long with
Brian Kelly, they're just desperate to do whatever it takes
(09:03):
to get back to that where they feel like they're
LSU and competing for a title. I think it's weird.
And we know, you guys know how long it takes
to get people to understand this game and all of this.
I think it's weird that you want that many new
players this late. And I don't care that they were
(09:25):
in NFL camps.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They're not superstars.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
And I can't imagine that that they would be like
appreciably better than.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Everyone else is on the roster.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
But this is just tells you like, he hates a
lot of the guys on the roster or he just
feels like they're all disposable and he just wants to
do what's best for lane in the moment. But, um,
you know, this lawlessness, you know, it's exposing like his
worst instincts as a leader. And it's embarrassing to me that, um,
(10:00):
LSU doesn't have the leadership, you know, um, you know,
in the administration, the upper administration, and certainly not the
leadership within the athletic department to say, dude, like, enough
is enough. And not just Lane, you know, it's Will
Wade as well. They're making a mockery out of college
(10:22):
or what's left of college athletics. And we're not asking
for much. We're just asking not to do this dumb stuff.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Jerry, we've gotten to traditional Apple Cup weekend, Sunday in September.
Nothing says Apple Cup like Sunday in September. But what
does the future of this rivalry look like to you?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I mean, I hope they still play it. I mean, obviously,
like I know, it's very much in jeopardy. And I
feel like a.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Lot of it is what exactly do the Cougs want
to do here, you know? I.
From Washington's standpoint, do they absolutely need to play the
game to get to where they want to go?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Of course not.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
But should they want to continue the rivalry for what
it means to their fans and the others?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Absolutely they should. Um, and you know, I'm a big proponent.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
It doesn't matter if it's Kentucky versus Louisville or Oklahoma
versus Oklahoma state.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And they're not playing right now. Washington versus Washington state.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Like I, the rivalry games, you know, especially if it's
within the state, the rivalry games are what makes the
sport for me. And I mean, we're already having a
deal with like this apple cup floating from date to
date to date. And so it's already different. And the
tradition is not the same. But I do want it
to continue. I was reminding my wife earlier this week,
(11:51):
who's a UW grad, like, hey.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The Apple Cup is Sunday. And she's like, that's not
the Apple Cup. It's not the Apple Cup to me anymore.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
And I was like, man, that's incredibly sad, and it
really speaks poorly on the sport, a sport that we're
going to keep watching whatever form it is, guys, right?
But it sucks that we just can't have nice things
anymore anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, your point about, you know, they should keep it
going for the fans, I'm not sure if Cougar fans
want this to continue, honestly. I mean, I think that's
the whole key to this entire process. Do Wazoo fans
want this thing to continue? You know, Dick and I
have been talking all week long that all the Cougs
in our building, Jerry, they're not even going to the game.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They don't give a damn.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So do they want this? Would you want this thing
to continue if you were a Cougar fan?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I would want the thing to continue.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
And also, I mean, this is year three when they're
not in the same conference, right? And did the Cougs
not win that first game?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
And did that not define a lot of their joy
for that season and set them on a good path
until they kind of hit the skids.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Later that year? Like, I just.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Especially if I'm the school that people somehow perceive as
like little brother, I always want to play big brother,
you know, like I'll cause I, and you can, you
can hand it to me eight straight times, but that
ninth time that I beat you, I'm talking and I'm
talking and I'm talking. And if I got to talk
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about it for a whole nother decade or half decade,
I'm doing it right. Like that, that game still benefits you.
And you have to look at it practically like, If
you don't do this game, how many Big Ten teams
are you going to be able to play?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right? Like, hey, if you're.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Not in the Big Ten or the SEC, you need
to be playing a Big Ten or SEC opponent. You know, like,
I mean, when you think about greater implications, you know,
for the year when you go 11-1 and you want
some legitimacy to be in the playoff conversations. Um, if
you're just boxed out of all that, they'll just look
(14:08):
at you and they'll say, well, you know, I think
this eight and.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Four Oklahoma team is better than you. You didn't play nobody,
you know?
Speaker 7 (14:15):
So, um, you have to think about the, the, the
bigger picture and all of that. And I, and I mean,
I get the frustration and really.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
With Coug fans a lot.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
But I just do not follow that track of, like,
I don't want to play my rival. I think Oklahoma
State's bitterness towards Oklahoma has done Oklahoma State a real disservice,
and they should be playing that game. And I don't
want that to happen. Don't forget, I'm from the Commonwealth
of Kentucky. I won't just call it the state.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And my core memory growing up, guys... is.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
March 26, 1983. We call that the dream game. What
happened in that game? Louisville and Kentucky had to play
each other in the Elite Eight for the right to
go to the Final Four. And Louisville, the Doctors of Dunk,
beat Kentucky 80-68 in.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Overtime in that game.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
It's the first time they had played in forever because
Kentucky would not schedule Louisville. And what happened as a
result of that game? Um, they put it into state law.
that Kentucky and Louisville have to play once a year,
once a year.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now, I mean, you could also.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Say like, Hey, like in, in, in, in the Commonwealth
of Kentucky, don't they have greater concerns about whether the
university of Kentucky and university of Louisville play?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Um, but like basketball.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Is everything in our state and they, all those state
legislators got together and they put it in the law
that Kentucky and Louisville has to play.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And for the last, you.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Know, 43 years, you know, they've, they've played every year.
There was a, there was a year in which, um,
for pandemic reasons, they had to kind of move it
and it was going to move, you know, um, instead
of being a game in December, kind of in the January.
And like, it was a thing about like whether somebody
was violating state law or not, like that was among
(16:15):
like a little bit of the conversation just because they
needed to push the.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Game back a little, but it matters that much. And, um, Uh,
you know, like.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Washington, Washington state football isn't quite the same as like
Kentucky Louisville basketball when it's like the only thing we
care about in that damn state.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Uh, but.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
I was born in the like believing that your two
central rivals in the same state need to play each
other and that there is an incredible social value. And
I'll stand on that, you know, even though I'm 2,500
miles away from there.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Jerry, great stuff. Always appreciate it. Let's catch up very soon.
Don't be a stranger and love having.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You on, man. Thanks, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
All right, any time, fellas. Take it easy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You bet.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Jerry Brewer, we should talk about this, by the way,
because there are some differences in Kentucky versus Louisville versus
UW and Wazoo.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
We'll come back and chat about some of that next
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Looking up on the TV, and I see Georgia Tech
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and Colorado playing right now.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Rutgers is getting hammered by UMass. I mean, it's just unbelievable, man.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
A Big Ten team is getting slaughtered 27-7 by UMass.
That's not great for them and not great for the
Big Ten depth at all. They might be one of
the worst teams in college football. But Colorado Georgia Tech
scoreless in the first quarter.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I believe that game is in Atlanta. Apple Cup coming
up on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Interesting conversation last segment with Jerry Brewer about the future
of the Apple Cup. He's saying, look, if he was
a Cougar fan, he would like to see this thing continue.
And he brought up the Kentucky-Louisville series in Kentucky, to
which if we had more time, I would have maybe
kind of pushed back a little bit and said, well,
the Kentucky-Louisville thing is a little bit different because both
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teams are on more even playing fields now.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Than UW and Wazoo. Absolutely. Wouldn't you say so?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I mean, both teams have won championships in basketball. They
played in the Final Four. You could argue that Kentucky
and Louisville are like Duke and North Carolina, right, on
the same level of success, the two of them.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So I think Washington.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
State, unfortunately, because I keep catching myself this week, Dick,
I swear to God, I keep asking myself, man, we've
got to talk more about the game, like the matchup
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
To me.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
The almost number one topic around the Apple Cup is
will it come to an end?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I mean, that to me is the prevailing topic of
discussion around this game on Sunday. Will this be one
of the last few Apple Cups that we'll see in
a while? Like you and I did the heights and
weights of the Cougar offensive and defensive line. Way undersized
on the defensive line. Offensive line, not so much. But
everything points to another slaughter by UW on Sunday. And
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I just wonder, man, if Cougar fans are going to
have a stomach to keep this thing going.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Well, I thought Jerry had a great quote when he said,
if you're Washington State, you have to play someone in
the Big Ten or the SEC.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And that wasn't just a Washington State edict.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
He said, if you're not in the Big Ten or
the SEC, you need to play someone every year in
the Big Ten or or the.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
SEC, because he's right.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
I mean, if you're a team like Washington State and
you happen to pop and have a good season, let's
say you're an 11-1 Washington State team, but your 11
wins are against the Pac-12 and then Eastern Washington and
Portland State and Utah State, and you don't have a
Big Ten win or an SEC win on your radar,
you're not going.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, here's where I'd be coming from if I were
a Cougar fan. If I'm going to get destroyed by somebody...
I'd rather it be somebody else besides my neighbor because
I'm not going to hear it from Oregon fans all
year long. Boise State's playing Oregon this year. Fresno State's
playing USC. You lose those games, you lose those games.
Those are just non-conference games, and they happen all the time, whatever.
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But there's a point of pride, I think, still for
Cougar fans when it comes to playing Washington.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
San Diego State's playing UCLA.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
So I'm just, first glance, it looks like most teams
in the Pac-12 do have a non-conference game. Utah State
plays us, and they're in the Pac-12. Who do the
Beavers play? The Beavers have a game on their schedule.
They got Texas Tech in the Big 12. But why
not just play somebody else? If we're going to get killed,
why get murdered by my neighbor who's going to bust
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my balls all year long about it?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Well, I mean, are the Huskies really going to bust
the Cougars' balls about it anymore? I mean, have you
talked a lot of smack to Cougars the last year
since that game?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I haven't, but I think it's more likely than not
that Husky fans would compared to a Trojan fan.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
I just don't know how accessible those games are to
Washington State. Now, if John Harlow, the AD at Wazoo,
finds multiple suitors... in the Big Ten and the SEC
or high-level Big 12 teams or high-level ACC teams, Florida State,
that type of team, if he can find multiple suitors
(21:58):
every year that are willing to play that.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Game, then fine. But if he can't?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You've got it in hand right now.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
All you've got to do is say yes, and you've
got your yearly Big Ten opponent.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I get it. I also get why a Cougar fan
would say, I don't want any part of this anymore.
We had a series with Gonzaga going in basketball, interstate
rivalry that just went way too far the other way,
and Lorenzo Romar said, screw this. And then Danny Sprinkles said,
screw this, and he canceled the series.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Right, but that's also.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Different, though, because we're also playing really good teams on
our basketball schedule.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Dick, here's my point. My point is that I think
finances are important. I totally agree, but I think that
in the end, people are human beings, and they're going
to get tired of getting run every single year by
their rival when they used to be on a way
more even playing field, and now they're not.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So I'm just saying I understand it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
If Cougar fans want to pull the plug on this
thing after 2028, I mean, hell, I got buddies of mine.
You've met him. He was sitting right here two weeks ago.
That think that, you know, it may be over after
this year. They may just say the hell with it
after this season. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I remember 2001. Sorry, we went to Miami.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
And we played the Hurricanes. And we got killed 65-7.
Because it was postponed. Because of the Hurricane.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
But, well, it was 9-11 is what postponed it. 9-11,
you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I remember asking Rick Neuheisel, or somebody else asked Rick Neuheisel,
it may have been Reynolds, by the way, do you
want to see the series with Miami continue?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He said no. He was done.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
He was finished with Miami after that game. So I
do think the human element, Dick, at some point does
show up.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I would just say to the Cougar fans that don't
want to continue the rivalry... Are you okay with the
very real possibility that five years from now, or even
less than five years from now, the best team you
will ever play every year is Boise State?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, but like you said, unless they can schedule another opponent, right?
Like other teams in the Pac-12 are doing. I know
Texas State plays... Texas, I don't know if that's been
a yearly thing for them. I don't think it is
a yearly thing for Texas State. They didn't play them
in 24, didn't play them in 25. They got them
this year, by the way. So good for them. If
they can get Texas on their schedule every year, great, right?
(24:13):
But I think if you can replace it, what I
would tell John Harlow if I were a Cougar fan
is this. If you can replace it with somebody else,
if you can get me USC, UCLA. You can get
me Minnesota, whatever. Anybody in the Big Ten, let's do that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I'm getting tired of getting crushed by these guys, and
it's personal. It's personal for me. They left us. They
put us in a hard spot or helped put us
in a hard spot, and now they're drilling us every year.
We can't afford to even, you know, I mean, dude, Dick,
their quarterback's making $ 250, 000. Our quarterback's making $ 4 million in 2026.
It's just a totally different animal.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Wow, what they're paying the Coug quarterbacks just got cut
since the Cam Ward era, right?
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Oh, yeah, big time. Heck, Cam Ward's truck was worth
more than. Right. But why is that? Because they were
a Pac-12 team. That's right. They were an FBS team.
That's right. I'm not saying Pac-12. Well, they're an FBS team.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
They're just not a. They were an FBS team. They
were a power four team. It was totally different when
Cam Ward was there, and now it's not.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I think we all got to agree that there is
a possibility that this is not going to continue.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No doubt. Let's get a break.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We'll do some testimonials, get caught up on that, because
we had Bryce Miller on earlier today at 445. We're
going to get to the pregame show at 6, courtesy
of Pemko here from the Skipper. Rick Neuheisel as well,
all coming up on a Thursday from Jimmy's on 93.3 KJRFM.
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