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September 8, 2026 • 37 mins

In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler is joined by Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey for the Husky Honks as the guys react to Washington winning the Apple Cup, the offense not looking overly impressive, Demond Williams and his receivers’ game, the running game, if there are any discipline questions with the team, the freshman key players, and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
All right, Dawg fans, here we go. Week two for
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of course, our friends at Delta Airlines. And, guys, 24-10
win in the Apple Cup on Sunday. I don't think
that is the final score a lot of us were
hoping for or expecting in this.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Game on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
They get the win in the Apple Cup.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
They keep the trophy home.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
But I think a lot of unsatisfied Husky fans walking
out of that stadium on Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And I wonder if you two were among them.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Greg, let's start with you and just get your thoughts
on Husky. what your big takeaways were from the Apple
Cup on Sunday after a 14 point win by the dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, let's start with the fact that they got the
win and we beat Washington State. We still own the
Apple Cup or as some former Huskies like to call it,
the Husky Cup. We got that part done. But yeah,
I think it was a little bit like having a
meal where it was just OK. You know, you got
enough to eat, so you're not hungry anymore. But the
food didn't taste all that good, didn't have quite enough

(01:39):
seasoning on it. I think in particular, the areas where
we were probably all the most disappointed was the play
of the offensive line. We've been talking about how good
those guys can be. And yes, the Hatchet brothers will probably,
when they get healthy, be two-fifths of that starting line.
And they didn't play this week. But I thought we
were all talking about how good the depth was. I
think Champ would probably say the holding calls against him

(02:03):
weren't his best work. And I think Cody Green is
a true freshman. had some plays he'd like to have back,
including the penalty. So I think it starts there with
the offensive line. We were talking about who are going
to be their explosive players. I don't think we found any.
I think, as a matter of fact, we might be
in a deficit at running back with the injuries that
we'll talk more about. But no running back really stepped
up and had an eye opening performance against, like we said,

(02:26):
a defense that is barely, you know, FBS quality type
of defense. And on the receiver side, I think there
was some meat left on the bone there. Late in
the game, guys made some good catches. And I think
one thing I will say is this. We probably should
have ended up with 38 points if we make the
simple plays. Fourth and one on the one-yard line, you
score there. And then you got a wide opener. Sheet

(02:47):
Williams in the end zone for about five seconds. And
the quarterback misses him. You clean those things up. And
it's a 38-10 game. We feel a little better. So
I think we got to be disappointed because we definitely
offensively didn't do what we need to do.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, and Mario, the penalties were obviously a problem.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Seems like Rylan Dillard-Allen had about 15 unsportsmanlike penalties in
that game, including a targeting call that wiped out a fumble,
which I don't know about you guys.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I went back and watched it.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think it may have been the right call after
going back and looking at that on video. But, you know,
DeMond Williams, Mario, after three quarters, 40 yards rushing and
152 total yards, the Huskies put up 156 yards and
14 points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
So that's.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
If not for that fourth quarter, this would have been
a miserable day for the Husky offense. But does that
fourth quarter make you feel any better, or do you
still feel like there's a lot of potential issues with
that offense after what you saw Sunday?

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, I'm most happy we got the win. That's the
most important part. And you talk about the fourth quarter.
I'm happy that DeMond came up and made the plays
when we needed him to make them. Now, it's very
disappointing coming into the season. We probably think we beat
Washington State by 21 or 28 points. And we messed
up on a bunch of conversions on fourth down. We're

(04:04):
like four for 12 on third down. That's what something
you want your quarterback and your offense to take care of.
The penalties, that was just atrocious. That was the worst
thing about this entire game was our penalties. I wasn't
as disappointed with the offensive line. They didn't give up
any sacks, but they didn't make these big holes. But
you could attribute that to the running backs, too. I

(04:25):
didn't think the running backs started off great. Quade Carr
started off with the first five carries. He went out.
Jay Lamar didn't do anything flashy or look great. So
you could blame that on the offensive line, but you
could also blame that on the backs. But I thought
the coaching... I don't want to get on Coach Fish,
but I thought the coaching, the fourth down going into halftime,

(04:45):
I thought that was a horrible call to give it
to Lamar. I think you give that ball to DeMond Williams.
You're paying him the money. He's the star of the team,
and he's the one that everybody's looking at. So you
give him an opportunity to make that play. And we
went on shotgun on the other fourth down. That cost
us as well. The defense came and kept us in
the game the entire game. It should have easily been

(05:07):
a shutout if it wasn't for the penalties that that
we had. I did think that we had a few weapons.
I'm going to keep saying it after I saw, I
saw Chris Lawson make a few plays and I think
he might be the guy. We didn't get him the
ball really until the second half. We got him the
ball once in the first half, but on that last
drive that we needed to score, it was Chris Lawson

(05:27):
out there making plays. Rasheed Williams, as Greg has pointed out,
he played well too. Desmond Roebuck, I think is going
to be great, but he's going to be the guy
that we give reverses to and we give the ball
short passes but i think we do have some weapons
now we're just going to have to figure out what
we do with this running game jacob manu played lights

(05:49):
out that's what we need but we need to make
sure that that's going to be consistent but i'm not
disappointed we came out with the victory.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Craig, your thoughts on what you heard from Mario there,
especially the wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
And he's right.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You had a couple of situations, especially with Chris Lawson
and Rasheed Williams, where I thought one on the Montlake side,
one on the other side, the lake side, where he
had receivers open in the end zone and couldn't hit
him for touchdowns. Mario mentioned the fourth and one play,
which I hate the formation there. I hate giving Jaden
Lamar the ball at the six yard line when you're

(06:23):
snapping the ball from the one yard line.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Then you had a missed field goal.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's that's 10 points right there. But definitely some missed
opportunities by the Husky offense. And I don't know, I'm
not as I'm not as convinced as Mario is yet, Greg,
that we've found any real big time difference makers at
wide receiver yet.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I think when I look at the totality of
the wide receiver group, again, let's factor in the competition.
I don't know that there are any All-American candidates playing
defensive back for Washington State. I also don't know that
there are any All-American candidates playing rush positions for Washington State.
So the offense was given an easy entree into being

(07:03):
able to figure those things out and protect the quarterback
and get open. I didn't see guys consistently getting open.
There was obviously the Rasheed Williams play where DeMond missed
him wide open in the end zone. I thought Lawson, yeah,
he made a couple good catches. Some of them were
contested because, again, guys weren't really getting open. And that's

(07:26):
everybody's job. That's the offensive line giving quarterback time. That's
the receivers running great routes. That's the offensive play caller
designing plays. to get them open. I didn't see a
lot of guys running open. We've been used to seeing
our receivers, you know, the Denzels. And, you know, going
back before that, you know, Jalen Pokes and McMillan's and
guys like that running wide open down the field. We

(07:49):
just aren't seeing that type of offense right now. It
has to do somewhat with the play calling, but also
with the wide receivers getting themselves open. So I want
to see those guys get open a little bit, you know,
have the quarterback have a big window to get the
ball to him. I still think we've got to develop
those guys.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
They made some catches. I'm hopeful that that means these
guys are going to continue to get better every week.
But I just don't see the consistency of getting guys
open and making the big chunk plays in this offense.
Right now, against the Washington State, you would hope that
we would have had a lot more chunk plays that
didn't come from us doing flea flickers and things like that. So,

(08:28):
you know, Mario might be a little higher on the
offense than I am. I'm still in the wait-and-see mode.
But I'll tell you what, here's something that, you know,
and let's just Start talking about it now. If you
can't run the football in the Big Ten, you are
in trouble. This is a conference where you have to
be able to run the football. You have to keep
pressure off of the quarterback. You have to be able

(08:50):
to move the change. You can't give the other teams,
you know, play clock and time after time because you're
throwing the ball off. all day, you got to be
able to run the football. And right now, with the
way the offensive line is playing, and I know that
can get better with some guys getting off injury, but
with the dearth of running backs that we have, the
lack of depth that we have with running back right now,

(09:11):
I'm really concerned.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I want to go back to the unsportsmanlike penalties, the
personal fouls, there's a delay a game to start the
second half, which is just atrocious, obviously. I mean, when
you know you have the football and you come out
and take a five-yard penalty against before the clock even
starts is obviously ridiculous for everybody. So we'll get to
all that in a minute, but Greg, uh, I know
you were kind of concerned before the game about the

(09:36):
lack of experience on this football team at running back,
you know, Lamar's the transfer from Oregon did not play
a lot down there. Quade Carr, obviously, uh, uh, would
just say six yards, six carries, whatever it was a
year ago for UW. So nothing for him. But now
those two guys are out and we're talking about moving
tight ends to running back. We're talking about Ryken Moon.

(09:57):
Warren Moon's son got a mention by Jed Fish. Trey Cooley,
who's played for four teams now in six years. Georgia Tech, Troy, Louisville.
He's got over 1,000 yards, but it took him four
years to get there. Brian Bonner is a freshman four-star
guy from Valencia who was the number seven running back
in the country last year in high school. If you

(10:18):
were concerned last week, man, you got to be even
more concerned now, Greg, about this situation. So what do
you do in the interim? Because we don't know about
Quade Carr. We don't know about Jaden Lamar. Those guys
might be back or they might not be back. Jordan
Washington may come back or he may not come back
this year. What are you doing starting Saturday versus Utah State, Greg,
if you're Jed Fish?

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, you're probably going to start out with Trey Cooley,
who frankly did not impress at all this weekend. I'm
going to cut the guy some slack from this standpoint.
He hasn't really played football in almost two years. I mean,
the guy has been hurt for all of last year
and most of the year in 2024. And so he's
trying to get his football legs. And who knows if
he'll ever get that back? You know, he's missed that

(10:59):
much football. He didn't look explosive. He didn't look elusive.
He didn't look extremely fast on the few carries that
he had. Granted, it's a small sample size. But I
didn't see anything that made me go, wow. And then
when you talk about Bonner, let's zero in on that
a little bit. He's a kid who, like you said,
four star, number seven recruit in the country. I heard

(11:20):
early them talking about this might be a guy who
could come in and start as a freshman. That means
these coaches probably gave him every opportunity, came in early,
came in during the spring, gone through all the fall camp.
He's done all of that. And he still wound up
about fourth or fifth on the depth chart. That tells
me that they have not been impressed necessarily. Not that

(11:42):
means he's going to be a bust or not going
to be a good player. But at this point, he
has not shown the coaches enough coming in with those
credentials that he can crack this lineup. Didn't play at all.
Didn't get one snap this week. If a kid's coming in,
I'm just going to straight up tell you, if a
kid coming in, number seven in the country, four-star. They're
giving him an opportunity to prove that he can play.

(12:03):
They want to get a kid if he's living up
to those numbers on the field. And the fact that
he didn't tells me all I need to know right
now that they're not convinced that he's ready for Big
Ten football. So it'll be interesting to see if he
can get better over the next couple of weeks, if
he can put some on film during the game, since
he's going to get a chance to play. Ansu Sanoe,
how do I pronounce the kid from Oregon's last name?

(12:25):
I've Apologize if I botched that.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Just call him Ansu. Jed calls him Ansu. You call
him Ansu.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Ansu is a really big kid, about 235 pounds. I
think we're going to get an opportunity to see him
as well, to see if he can use his size.
I think against these next two opponents, that might show
some success because, again, Eastern Washington and this week against
Utah State, I don't know that those are great defenses.

(12:53):
Utah State lost to an Idaho State. a couple of
weeks ago. So I think this is an opportunity for
those kids to get some work. They can be adequate.
So the best news about our running back room is
that the next two weeks, we've got Utah state and
Eastern Washington. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Utah state lost to Idaho state Saturday as in three
days ago.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So they're not, they're not in good shape, but I mean, Mario,
I think Greg's right about the Brian Bonner thing that
they wanted to give him every shot, right. To show
what he can do. Jed Fish even mentioned, I think,
on Monday's press conference yesterday and maybe even after the
game on Sunday, that Bonner had the most carries and
reps in the entire running back room during spring and
fall camp and wasn't able to break loose for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Right, Mario?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Not picking up the playbook. He's terrible in pass pro.
He's putting the ball on the ground. There's a lot
of reasons why they would not be impressed by Brian Bonner,
but this was almost like kind of a code red
type of scenario for the running backs even before these
guys got banged up. And what's the highest level of DEFCON?
Is it DEFCON 1? I think we're pretty much at
DEFCON 1, pal, Mario, right now at the running back spot.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
You're absolutely right. And you listed off the three top
reasons why this young man probably isn't in there. And
that's the playbook, past pro. and just putting the ball
on the ground. So it's one of those things. Greg
is right. He's got the opportunity. They've been talking about
him for forever. I know he got every opportunity to

(14:25):
crack the top three. Trey Cooley, he fumbled on his
first play. And I think they weren't going to put
him back in if it wasn't for the injury. So
we're in trouble right now. But I think this is
one of those things where people get their opportunities. You
ask for an opportunity. you're going to get an opportunity
with Utah State and Eastern. If there was a time

(14:47):
that we could be hurt, now is the time. So
we'll figure it out, and I think these guys will
figure out who's a playmaker in the next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, they wanted to spend, Greg, the first few games
of the non-conference figuring out what the running back room
looked like, but I think that was Jaden Lamar, that
was obviously Quade Carr, and figuring out if they had
a workhorse. Now it's going to be which third, fourth,
fifth string guy can we count on, starting with Minnesota
and then going to USC. Does it matter what your

(15:16):
running game looks like if you have a running quarterback,
for example? Can they just get away with having DeMond
Williams do everything? Can they get away, Greg and Mario,
with having DeMond Williams be the featured back, if you will,
in their rushing attack?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I don't think... you can get away with it consistently
in a big 10. I think it certainly can help.
I think, you know, as I stated earlier in the
season on our first show, I believe that he will
demand Williams will end up being our leading rusher, but
that comes out of, you know, being able to run,
you know, the option plays when they got to count
for the running back. If you don't have to count

(15:52):
for the running back at all, and you can just
put your sights on the quarterback, that doesn't spell a
lot of success. They know he's going to pull the
ball out. If they run that little option play, then
it's not any foolery. They can just zero in on
the quarterback. I also think that a heavy dose of
him rushing 10, 15, 20 times a game obviously will

(16:13):
put your quarterback in jeopardy, and you just cannot do that.
Where Jermon Williams is going to have success is on
scramble plays, and if he has about four or five
design runs a game where he can pull the ball
out or you think it's an RPO or something like that,
where you're not just able to hunker down and make
hits on the quarterback in the hole. So you don't

(16:34):
want to do that. So I think it helps because
he's probably going to– if we get into Big Ten
play and no one's gotten healthy or no one's stepped
up at running back, he's going to have to run
more than we would like him to, and we're going
to all be holding our breath and crossing our fingers
way too much.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, Mario.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
But it's not the solution.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Mario, I guess I just kind of felt like coming
out of the Apple Cup that the best offense we've
got right now is DeMond Williams improvising, right? And DeMond
Williams just kind of going off script and doing whatever
he wanted to do. There really wasn't much of a
vertical threat. You know, the ball, you know, going downfield,
you know, more than maybe 25 yards or so.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
A lot of run after the catch, a little yak
for sure.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
But the vertical passing threat was almost non-existent. And, I mean,
that third and nine run that you saw, guys, Mario,
from DeMond, that was as good a running back– or
excuse me, run from a quarterback as maybe I've ever
seen at Washington. But I just don't know if their
offense is going to be able to function if the
best thing you can do is DeMond Williams just taking
off and going off script.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
I think we have a few deep threats, and I
don't think, if you look at the last year and
a half, DeMond doesn't throw the deep ball well. The
only person he threw the deep ball well to was Boston,
and that was just like a flyer's up. He's throwing
it up, and that young man would come down with it.
Other than that, we never had a deep threat. Also,

(17:53):
when you look in the Big Ten, Jonah Coleman, he
got all his yards in the first three games, but
We didn't really have a great running game in the
Big Ten as well.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Come back and talk more about what went down at
the Apple Cup on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
These penalties, man.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
We talked about that fourth and one play. We get
a nitpick at the play call. We get a nitpick
at the formation. All that and more. Greg Lewis, Mario Bailey,
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Speaker 3 (19:00):
Pennant takes the shotgun snap.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Goes over the middle.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's tipped up and it's picked.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Alex McLaughlin, the money man in the Apple Cup with
the interception.

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This time he smartly slides down knowing time and score.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Get down, good man, with a two-touchdown lead.

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Speaker 3 (19:21):
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talking dogs. Huskies win the Apple Cup on Sunday, 24-10.
Looking ahead to Utah State a little bit. They got
beat by an FCS team, guys, on Saturday in Idaho State.

(19:44):
So either A, they're terrible, and there's just fresh meat
for UW to slaughter on Saturday at 1230. Or maybe
they show up a little motivated for this game and
keep it closer than we'd like it to be. But
let's go back to the Apple Cup and Greg and Mario.
Let's talk about that fourth and one play. I'm down
there on the sideline, and I'm just shaking my head
as they're in shotgun, asking myself, what are we doing?

(20:05):
Why are we handing the ball off to a running
back at the six-yard line when the ball is at
the one-yard line? And that offensive line got blown to bits,
and Jaden Lamar got stuffed, and the Huskies walked away
with nothing. How critical are we of the play call?
How critical are we of the formation, Mario, that they
were in on that fourth-and-one play from the goal line?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Very critical because why can't we have smash mouth football?
Why we talked about this offensive line, or at least
I talked about this offensive line being the best unit
on our team. Give them a chance. Don't put, don't
put us in shotgun. Let's just go right up the
gut and get the first down for us to be
in shotgun and go to the left. It was a
horrible call in my opinion. And that's why we got

(20:49):
the result that we got.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
My take is this, this is, And it's hard for
me to say this, but I have had to admit
this over the last four or five years. This is
just how they play football now. There's no more. Very
few teams will just put a fullback in there and
run downhill and allow the running back in the offensive
line to get that one or two yards that's necessary. Yes,

(21:12):
I hate it. I don't like it at all. Being
a running back who is a deep back guy who
liked to run downhill. It's just irritating and mind boggling.
I've never in my career taken a handoff from a
guy standing next to me going lateral. That's just not
how I would ever enjoy running. It wouldn't be used
to it. But having said that, I can't really criticize

(21:33):
Jed because everybody does it. That's how they play football now.
It's the new way they do things. And it certainly
is frustrating for guys like myself. who like to run downhill.
I've just seen it time and time again.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, first of all, listen, just because everybody else is
doing it doesn't make it right. How many times did
you hear that guy's growing up from your mom, right?
Just because everybody else is doing it. You got to
do it too if your buddy jumped off a bridge.
Would you follow that idiot? I just don't get it.
I mean, you got offensive linemen, you've got bigger running backs.

(22:06):
You can put anybody you want in the game as
a lead blocker, Mario and play power football. And I mean, look,
Greg is right. They're not the only team that does that. Hell,
Kalen did it when he was here at Washington and
I hated it then. So it just seems like it's
impossibly hard for whatever silly reason, Mario, for a football
coach or an offensive coordinator to, to find a lead blocker,

(22:29):
whether it's a tight end, whether it's a guy like
a Jack Westover from back in the day, an extra
offensive lineman, and frankly, I just don't get why it's
so damn hard.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
I have no idea. I'm more on the Philadelphia Eagles
tush push or whatever. You're going to put your biggest
guys in there, and you're going to go straight up,
and you're running downhill, not to the side, not a
sweep or doing all these things. Greg said it. Everybody
does it. I don't care what everybody does. The bottom

(22:59):
line is getting the first down and doing what's best
for the team. Coach Fish has to change. Ever since
his first game with the University of Washington and we
went option to the short side of the field on
fourth down, we have to figure out our fourth down plays.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, let's talk about some of those penalties, guys, in
the game, because that was kind of gross, right? Undisciplined
football in a lot of ways. I mean, the delay
of game to start the second half was not fun
to see. I'm reading the words unsportsmanlike conduct and personal fouls.
five times during this game on Sunday and I believe

(23:37):
three of them came from one guy in Dylan Ryland
Allen so is this about hey guys are playing violent
football that's great we love how aggressive they are they
just got to learn to control it or is this
maybe a bigger issue that you think is going to
come back to burn these guys at some point Greg
later in the year well I think it's.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
An issue with Ryland Dillard Allen and going back to
our first show on Tuesday I mentioned This is a
kid who can be unhinged. I like his aggressiveness. I
like his athleticism, his playmaking. But he's got to keep
that under control. First game out the gate, three times.
In a game that, you know, you can say it's
a traditional rivalry. first game of the season. You've been

(24:18):
hitting other players all, all, you know, the last several weeks.
And so maybe this is the one game where he's
got to get it out of him. Well, first of all,
we know he won't play the first half of next week.
So he's going to be sitting out for a while.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, no, he's good. That's a new rule. He's good
to go. Yeah. Yeah. They changed it.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
So if he gets it again, the second one, he'll
have to sit out the first half of the next game,
no matter what half the foul comes in. For example,
if he gets pinched for a unsportsmanlike or, sorry, in
the first half of the next game. Then he misses
the first half of the game the next week. If
it happens again, he's going to miss the next two
games no matter what. So he's good to go for

(24:56):
Utah State.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well, if I'm the coach, he'd still be sitting out
the first half of next week. Because he's got to
learn that there are consequences to your action. He's got
to be able to control himself. I think Jacob Manu,
I'm not too worried about him. I'm not necessarily worried
about the other players.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Ramzak.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Ramzak, who made some mistakes. He's a young guy. He's
a rookie. And it looked like he was kind of
trying to pull up. But I think it can be
an issue with certain players. And I think Rylan Dillard-Allen
is someone who's got to get it under control. And
if I'm your teammate, I'm going to have a conversation
with you. You know, if I'm one of the team leaders,
I'm going to come talk to you. Look, man, you're
hurting us. You got to dial it back. You don't

(25:39):
need to be the toughest guy on the field. You
don't need to be the bully on the field. You
just need to come up and play good football. And
somehow this guy's got his emotions under control. But overall,
just way too many penalties. And I'm going to like
I said, first game of the year, maybe. But this
team has had some issues with penalties. And they've got
to dial this back. Last year, we were able to

(26:00):
stop talking about it after about week three or four,
I think it was. But for the first half of
last year, we were talking about penalties too much as well.
This is something they've got to get under control. And,
of course, the delay of games, that's strictly on the coaches.
You can't come out of halftime and have a delay
of game. That's just Bush League. That just should never happen.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, Mario, the personal fouls on RDA, it just looks
like he's just out of control, right? I mean, I
don't know. Did you play with a guy, Mario, back
in the day that was like that? And if you did,
how do you fix it?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Well, we definitely didn't play with anybody like that because
he would have been off the team in a second.
Coach James just wouldn't go for it. I mean, the
fact that Greg was talking about this young man before
the game and saying that, we would have nobody like that.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's why I.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Told Greg after his first penalty, Greg had been calling
him out before the game. I said he would have
been out right then. He wouldn't have got an opportunity
to get two and three penalties. That's just... That's just
bad football, and we can't have that on the team.
We have way too many penalties as an entire team,
but for one individual to have three personal fouls, he

(27:06):
wouldn't play next week at all.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, I'm looking at, I think they had seven penalties accepted. No,
I'm sorry, 12 for 130 yards, my fault, and there
was one point in time where I think Wazoo's total
offensive output was about 20 yards underneath the total yardage
that UW had picked up in penalties. I mean, it really, Greg,

(27:29):
felt like the best offense the Cougars had in this
game was silly things being done by the Husky defense.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, several of those were drive-extending penalties where you're third down,
you've gotten out of the drive, or you've gotten a turnover,
and the penalty continues their offensive drive and momentum. The
defense was doing a fantastic job. from a play standpoint,
they were stopping a run. They were getting a decent
amount of pressure. The corners, you know, currently and Jones,

(27:58):
the new guys were in good coverage, but we would
create a penalty or we would do something stupid boneheaded
that would extend their drive. And eventually they got into
the end zone. It could have been nice to have
shut these guys out and kept them off the scoreboard.
So things like that, you've got to clean up because again,
When you're playing a better opponent and you're playing in
games that are in your conference that really count and

(28:20):
really matter, those things will come back and haunt you.
And you have this many penalties against a Big Ten team,
and you probably lose. I mean, that's the reality. So
you've got to get this cleaned up. You've got to
turn this around.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I thought, guys, I thought the best performer, I mean,
outside of DeMond Williams in the fourth quarter, Mario, who
do you think I'm going to say, by the way,
that I thought was the best performer in the game, Mario?

Speaker 5 (28:43):
On offense or defense? Anything.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
I gave it away. Well, Jacob Manu was the best performer.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I thought Hunter Green was amazing. The guy's averaging 51
yards a punt. He had two of them inside the 20,
a long of 64, two over 50 yards. I mean, Mario, Greg,
if we had any concerns about the punting game, that
was put to bed on Sunday, huh?

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well, you always want your special teams to do their part.
He did his part. Hunter was perfect, and Greg kept
talking about him the whole time. He did a great job,
and he helped the defense out, which helped the team out.
Defense and Hunter held the game for us. And those
could have been some turnovers. I think, you know, a
couple of those punts, their punt returner muffed them. The

(29:27):
unfortunate part about it, Sophie, they were so deep. They
were so long.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Our team didn't have enough time to get down there, recover.
They were still on their way down. So not only
is he able to kick the ball far, he's kicking
it real high up and that sun and causing turnover,
so good for him.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
All right, we'll come back and wrap up the Husky Honks,
brought to you in part by our friends at Mitsubishi
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the official airline of Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Greg, you
kind of mentioned it briefly, those new guys, the freshmen, Jones, Ramzak, Fruin,

(30:04):
Derrick Coleman, Broussard, What did we make of those guys
that we saw Sunday? And then how about just an
overall thought coming back on the game that DeMond Williams had?
He's going to be the guy that has got to
make this whole thing go. What did we make of
the way number one played? We'll do that next on
93.3 KJRFM.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
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Speaker 2 (30:40):
Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Right hip.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Two receivers to the left. Takes a snap.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Looking left.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Now rolls out to the left. He's going to tuck it.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Looking for the edge.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
He dives to the pylon. Waiting for the signal.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yes!

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Touchdown, Washington! Sound the siren. The Dogs getting their.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
First score of the Apple Cup, courtesy of DeMond Williams Speed.
All right, final segment for the Husky Hawks right here
on 93.3 KJRFM. Huskies win the Apple Cup Utah State
up next on Saturday. Pre-game 8.30 kickoff at 12.30. Guys,
it was really fun being down there on the sideline
watching number 5 and number 11. Ramzak Fruin, Derek Coleman,

(31:29):
Bruce Saw, you saw DCB get in there and tip
away a ball that actually got counted as a pass breakup,
was eventually picked off by another freshman in Jerron Jones.
And dude, he came back, Greg, to the sideline like
the happiest little guy you've ever seen in your life.
Just jumping up and down, smiling his ass off. Couldn't
believe he made that kind of a play in his
first game as a Husky. Give me your thoughts on

(31:51):
what you saw from those three freshmen, especially those two
guys up front.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I thought the two guys up front did a good job.
I thought Derek Coleman-Brusa had a tackle for loss, made
some good plays. The fact that Washington State could get
nothing going running the football, especially in between the tackles,
tells you a lot about how those guys played. I
know Ramzak Firin didn't have a lot of stats, but
he held the edge. No one was able to get

(32:19):
around him, get outside. I thought that he gave some push.
He occupied the tackle. Tackles had to do a good job.
And he played in his first game. So, you know,
he didn't get any sacks. But I think he played
really good football outside of the penalty, of course. He
got to cut that piece out. Those guys did a
great job. But the corner, to get an interception in
your first game and to hold tight out on the edge,

(32:42):
to not give up any big plays, that's a home
run for him. He had a great debut. This kid
potentially is going to start for four years. I know
him and Rayshon Clark. kind of sharing some time in
the nickel, but Jones can also play on the outside.
So if carnally or the corners go down at all,
he can certainly flip out there and play. He's going
to have a great career as a Husky. He's going

(33:03):
to be one of those, you know, DBU type of guys.
I'm excited to see how his career goes. Hopefully he's
wearing the W on his helmet for all three or
four years that he plays college football. Cause we know
how that goes now, but I think he's an all
conference type of player in the making. I'm really excited.
Because we were talking a lot about Ramzak during the offseason.

(33:23):
We were talking a ton in recruiting about Coleman Brusa
and his exploits in high school. Jones went a little
under the radar, but right now I think he's standing
really tall. And I had a terrible debut as a freshman.
that I can certainly remember. So hats off to him
for coming in and making a play.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, but look at you now. You're doing a radio
show with us, by the way, so it all worked
out pretty good.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Mario, I got to tell you, I will even take
it more so than Greg. I was thrilled with what
I saw from those three guys. I thought they didn't
look overwhelmed at all. Cody Green had kind of a
welcome to college football moment, right, Mario? I thought early
in the game. And then outside of the false start, right,
which is going to happen to anybody, I thought all
four of those dudes acquitted themselves very, very, very well.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Now, it was Wazoo. It was a Pac-12 team. We'll
see what.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Happens when they're in the Big Ten, obviously. But I
was jacked up, man, for what I saw from those
four guys.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Yeah, I thought it was fantastic to start your freshman year,
your first game in front of all these people. And
it'd be the Apple Cup and you come out there
and play like that. And it felt like they got
comfortable in the game and started playing better and better.
DCB got a tackle for loss. He got a pass deflection.
I think Ramzek had a pass deflection. They were getting

(34:38):
back there, getting their hands up, making tackles. And Jones
is just one of those guys that had a great
camp and you thought he was a playmaker. And like
Greg said, to get an interception in your first game,
that's phenomenal. And it looks like he's going to be
one of those guys that's going to be fighting for
time because I talk about it all the time. You
want playmakers in there. You want guys that make big plays,

(35:00):
create turnovers. And if he's going to be that guy
and he's going to sneak his way in there, all
those guys did great for their freshman game, first game.
And I look forward to watching to see what happens
in the future.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
All right, you want to remind us who your defensive
player of the game was? Brought to you by Mitsubishi
Heating and Air Conditioning. Remind people who you picked after
the game on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Jacob Manu.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Greg?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Jacob Manu.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
All right, Jacob Manu, congratulations, pal. There's no prize for this, Jacob,
but you get our admiration. But, hey, before we get
out of here, we've got to just get a quick thought.
I know we talked about it in the first segment
a little bit. Number one, Daman, Mario, we'll start with you.
We'll give you just a minute or so here to
kind of give us your take on the way you
thought number one played because a lot of this, if

(35:45):
not all of this, most of this is going to
depend on this guy.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
What did you make of what you saw from him
on Sunday?

Speaker 5 (35:52):
I thought it was an average game, but coming off
of an offseason in which he had the bottom line
for me was he made the plays at the end
of the game when we needed it to win the game.
So I'm hopeful that we'll build on that. And that's
how we'll start this next game. I'm going to give
him a B minus. He made some huge plays. That

(36:12):
run on third down was the play of the game
for me. He also got the ball in the end
zone on a subsequent run before that. So I'm going
to give him a B minus because he did miss
a couple of guys a But by the end of
the game, he started.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Putting the ball where it needed to be.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
So I'm going to give him a B-. Yeah, I just–
I wonder if my standards for this guy are too high, man. Guys,
I just go back to that Louisville game and that
Sun Bowl performance right at the end of 2024. And
if you would have told me that we would be
here with DeMond Williams right now, I think I would
have thought that was a bit of a downer, right?
So I'm still looking for him to be a little
bit more electric, a little bit more of a playmaker,

(36:49):
a little bit more dominant, especially when they enter– big
10 play, but he may have been banged up a
little bit. He had a hammy or a, you know,
a cramping injury he was dealing with. And let's face
it when he lost his running backs and he's got
some freshmen out there on the offensive line, a bunch
of brand new receivers. I just thought at times they
looked like an offense that barely played a lot of
football together, to be honest with you. So we'll see

(37:09):
what happens starting Saturday.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Eight 30 pregame, 1230 kickoff, Utah state, Greg Mario, great stuff.
And we'll see you boys on Saturday morning at eight 30.

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