September 8, 2026 • 27 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Larry Stone about the lack of Mariners playoff hopes, youth coming up, Dan Wilson’s time left, the Apple Cup and a 24-team college football playoff plus the Seahawks’ opener, then the guys chat with M’s reliever Gabe Speier about the vibes currently, their playoff hopes, his role, and Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
Larry Stone. Brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery. Bigger, better,
and fresher since 1971. With eight Puget Sound locations from
Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between. There's a Ram
near you. Now with Softie and Dick, here's Larry Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
All right, lots to get to. Big thanks to the Ram.
Gabe Spire will join us coming up in about a
half an hour or so from T-Mobile Park before tonight's
game one of three against the Rangers. And, Larry, why
don't we just start right there and talk a little baseball.
There's all kinds of college football news, professional football news
to get to. apple cup reaction but here we are
with 18 games left and the m's are six games
(00:41):
out the astros are winning right now and i don't
know man you're generally a positive guy but even you've
got to admit that things are looking bleak right now
with this baseball team what do you think yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Very very bleak i think divish's story today said it
pretty well you know the math mathematically they're still alive
but realistically they have very little hope um yeah six
out with 18 to play Um, the, the, the schedule, the,
the so-called easy part of the schedule, as I tweeted
the other day, it's, it's predicated on them actually winning
(01:15):
those games. And when you lose three out of four
to the A's, uh, there's no confidence. There should be
no confidence. They could win any of these games, including
the other, the remaining games with the A's or the
games with the angels or even the games with the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Unless they just turn it on and go practically undefeated
the rest of the way, I think it's pretty hopeless.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And, Larry, on the flip side, when are we going
to just admit that the Houston Astros aren't a bad
baseball team? Like, they haven't played bad baseball for a long,
long time.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, well, that's fair for, I mean, really, for years,
if that's what you mean.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Just even this year. I mean, they've been playing pretty
darn good baseball for a couple months now.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, they got off to a horrible start and people
were writing them off. I kind of wrote them off,
but they did have a lot of injuries. And when
those guys came back, I mean, there's just a winning
tradition and knowledge and muscle memory in that organization. And
I think it came to the fore again this year.
And they have a guy much like Cal last year.
(02:22):
in your Don, who is playing MVP caliber ball and
kind of leading the way, extraordinary seat, triple crown potential season.
So when you have something like that, it can take
you a long way.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, they were 57-55 on the 1st of August, and
now they're 73-71.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, but they were 10 under. 500 at one point
this season.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right, but, okay, sure. But, Dick, they were also 43-46
on the 1st of July. I mean, yeah, if you
want to go back to early June, but the last
couple of months they're playing like five or six games over.
That's not bad. Right, but they're not a good baseball team.
They're a mediocre baseball team. And they are kicking everybody's
ass because everybody else stinks. I mean, I don't want
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to sit here and say the biggest reason why the
Mariners are out of this thing is because the Astros
are incredible. The biggest reason why the Mariners are out
of this thing is because they're terrible, man.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
No, but the reason you said that one of the
biggest reasons that you thought they had hope was because
the Astros were terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And right now that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But the Astros have given you every don't-you-think-Larry opportunity ever.
to run away with this thing. There are two games
over 500 for F sake. What are we talking about, Larry?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
No, you're, you're absolutely right. It's it was there for
the taking. I mean, you look at the years, recent
years where the Mariners missed the playoffs with 89, 90,
88 wins. I think, you know, in recent years, the
years they didn't make the playoffs, but had strong runs
at it. That would have, if they had had that
this year, it would have been a cakewalk. they have
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no one to blame but themselves. I mean, it's even
ludicrous to think that they even have a chance when
they're 10 games under 500 with 18 to play. That should,
you know, they should be by rights just already looking
to head to next year and bringing up kids and
playing them. But because of the division, they have this
outside shot, but it's not because they've earned anything. It's
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because they've been bad. And you're right. The Astros have
been the definition of mediocrity, you know, basically a 500 team,
but that in this division, that makes them the stalwarts.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
You mentioned the kids. I mean, I'm done there. I'm
completely done with the season. I want to see a
Royal and Montez every single game. I want to see
what 2027 is going to look like. When do you
think the Mariners will decide to do that?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, I think they're going to do that sporadically the
rest of the year. I mean, we've already seen Montez
play almost every game. And, you know, Arroyo played the
first day he was up. I think, I don't know
if the, well, the lineup's probably out since the game
starts in a few minutes. I haven't seen it yet.
Is Arroyo in it?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No, Montez.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Montez is starting at DH tonight for them.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah. I'm with you. I would like to see Arroyo.
And it's not like, I mean, how could it be
much worse? Could, you know, could he be any worse
than Taylor Ward, who has been essentially the worst Continuing
the tradition of Rob Refsnyder of being the worst player
in baseball. So, you know, what is it? What does
(05:21):
it hurt? What are you going to lose by playing
those kids? You might catch a spark even.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's the thing is that the Rainiers are still going.
They got a couple weeks left. So Montez and Arroyo,
those guys could be playing every day in AAA. Instead,
they're goofing around up here in the major leagues. But
I don't know, man. I mean, I'm just kind of
wondering if this thing is going the way we think
it's going to go. How long after the season actually
ends do you think it'll be before there's an announcement
(05:47):
that the manager job is now open?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Probably the next day. I don't think it'll take, I
don't think it'll take long. I mean, I think there's
a growing sense, you know, I think I told you
guys several weeks ago that if they didn't make the playoffs,
I didn't think Dan would be back. That seems to
be the consensus around baseball. Now you see national guys
saying the same thing. So, you know, I wouldn't be
surprised if it was within a couple of days after
(06:12):
the big question, of course, is what happens to the
brain trust to Poto and Hollander. And that's, I think
it's hard to gauge that one really. you know, I
think there's, there's arguments both ways and we'll get, it
just kind of depends on what John Stanton feels. And,
you know, he hasn't shown a tendency to be impatient
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and he seems to be, you know, he's always been
a supporter of DePoto. So, you know, I, I, I
think there's a, there's a possibility that, that, that there
won't be any change there, that it'll all be on
the manager and the coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, what do you think should happen? How, how hot
would Jerry DePoto's seat be in your mind?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, I think you could justify firing him. And, you know,
11 years, two playoff bursts this year went wildly out
of control. You know, just a total, I mean, every move,
just about every move that he made in the offseason
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did not work out. But you have to also look
at the fact that I think they were coming off
five straight winning seasons, which they've never done. Two playoff
bursts in the last post-rebuild. I'm not sure what I
would do, Dick. I'm undecided on that one, which is
not a great answer. I'd probably lean towards this organization
(07:37):
needing a reboot and new direction, new philosophies.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And so I probably lean in that direction.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I just I'd be surprised if they let him go,
to be honest with you. I think I understand your
point about the reboot. And I'm not saying that I
would not not fire him. I've always wondered if this
is like Steve Sarkeesian and Chris Peterson, that there's only
so far Jerry can take this thing. I don't know
if he's hamstrung by ownership enough to make a major difference. Obviously,
(08:10):
we'd like to have more money. But do you believe that? That, man,
what Jerry did going from the outhouse to, I don't know,
what's below the penthouse, right? Whatever that is, that next
level before you get to the top of the hotel.
The suites. The suites, right. Is it possible that he's
done all he can do for this franchise?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Uh, I don't know if I would say that. I mean,
with the different pitching decisions in game seven last year,
you know, they would have gotten to the world series, uh,
and then he would have gotten them. He would have
achieved that. So it wasn't like he, he didn't build
a team that was capable of doing that. They almost,
they almost did. They almost did that. So, uh, you know,
(08:51):
sometimes things just go wrong. It happens to organizations all
the time. This was just kind of a perfect storm
of everything going wrong. Injuries, underperformance, manager decisions, everything. I
think there's a school of thought that it could turn
(09:13):
around next year with the right additions. Yeah. But I
think you could also squint your eyes in a different
direction and say that this team needs an overhaul too,
that there's so many holes and so many deficiencies that
it's not as close as it appeared at the start
of the season.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Our weekly conversation with Larry Stone brought to you by
our friends at the Ram Restaurant and Brewery. Larry, let's
talk some Apple Cup. I thought, and I've been to
probably 25 of these, I thought it was the worst
atmosphere I've seen in any Apple Cup I've been to. Um,
do you think it came closer to death because of
that this Sunday, or do you think the Cougars performance
(09:54):
breathed some life into it because it wasn't 56-10?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah. It's hard to tell the atmosphere from watching on TV,
but I'll take your word for it that it was Deadsville.
Probably closer. Probably closer to death, I would say. Because, yeah,
(10:18):
the whole thing is... you know, the, the argument for
keeping it alive is that it means something to people.
And if, if, if there's, if that atmosphere and that
commitment is not there, then, then I think that there's
stronger arguments for not keeping it going.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, uh, would you want to keep it going if
you were a Cougar fan?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah. I would want to keep it going. Yeah. Because
I think it would mean more even, you know, it
always meant a lot to the Cougars to, to win
that game and upset the Huskies. And if you do
it now, I, It's not going to happen often, but
on the rare occasion if it happens like two years ago,
I think it means even more. So I would like
to give them that chance to pull that upset and
(11:01):
to keep the rivalry going. It's just the... History and
tradition mean something, and I'd hate to break that up.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Larry Stone's with us, courtesy of the Ram. What about
this proposed 2014 playoff that's getting kicked around now? You know,
the CFP, ESPN in discussions to start the process about
talking about a 2014 playoff. All three of us remember
the days where you'd go to bed on a Monday night,
wake up on Tuesday morning, and... the paper would tell
(11:29):
you who won the national championship, right? And those days
are over, man. So does a 2014 playoff appeal to you,
Larry Stone?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I haven't thought this one out too much, but, you know,
at a point, you know, you can get a little
too unwieldy. I would, you know, I think the way
it is now is pretty good. I don't think I
would expand it even more. So I would tend to not.
proposed uh favor that got.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It i'm with you i guess the only the only
potential positive is i think if we have a 2014
playoff we're going to get a lot more of these
texas ohio state games that we're getting this saturday instead
of only one for the entire season we're probably going
to have a multitude maybe even a big 10 sec
crossover week so does that breathe a little bit of
(12:23):
life into the possibility.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Then Yeah, that's a fair point. Because I think you
have too many teams weaseling out from not wanting to
schedule those games. So if you can get more of those... absolutely,
that would be a point in the favor.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Larry, how about tomorrow night? Seahawks and Patriots. I don't
know what your thoughts are on this season, but looking
to do something that this team tried to do in
2014 and some ways got robbed of it. Some ways
they robbed themselves. Otherwise, maybe they were robbed by somebody else.
But back-to-back championships is what's on the line this year
(13:05):
for Seahawks football. I mean, you tell me. Dick and
I were debating whether or not these guys have a
better chance to do that than the 2014 team did.
I guess that 2014 team came within one yard, right,
of repeating as champions. But what do you make of
the odds of this team doing what that team could
not do?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, I would say the odds are stacked against them
just because of how extraordinary– hard it is to do
in any season not just to repeat but to win
it in any particular season and to do it back
to back i just think you know it's i would
take the field and then nothing against the seahawks and
i think they're going to be a strong contender and
they've done a you know schneider's done a great job
(13:47):
of of bringing back as much as you possibly can
of the nucleus of that team given the restrictions of
the salary cap and the like But it's just too
many things could happen to derail that. And, you know,
the 14 team did everything right and had it in
their hand, in their grasp, and still couldn't pull it off. But,
(14:09):
I mean, that team was there. It was right there
for them, and they didn't do it. But, you know,
it wouldn't shock me if they did it again. They
have the capability of doing it. I just think it's
just there's too many barriers along the way. So, you know.
Always go for the field instead of the one team.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, how much of a bonus is it, though, that
they really don't have a target on their back? I mean,
the NFL just got done with their player voting, NFL
Top 100. there were three Seattle Seahawks voted in the
top 100 and only two in the top 96 and
the highest paid cornerback in the league until right now
wasn't even on the list. What do you think of that?
(14:50):
Just the lack of respect that the other players are
showing the Superbowl champions.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah. I don't quite get it. This whole thing about
sort of anointing the Rams is the, as the favorites
and the, and the de facto champions, uh, I mean,
you look, they were pretty dominant last year, you know,
in the second half of the season and through the playoffs,
they bring back, as I said, they bring back almost
every starter, including most of the key players, coaching staff,
(15:20):
except for the offensive coordinator. Uh, it is, it is
puzzling why they don't, uh, have more respect, I guess
is the word. And, you know, that will be a,
I'm sure that will be a, uh, a galvanizing point
for those guys and, and it's probably in their favor
to have something to, you know, to feel, you know,
(15:42):
to feel slighted that works in athletics. It does drive teams. So, uh,
you know, uh, McDonald probably is very happy to have
that scenario that they're not just, being touted as the
obvious choice to repeat.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, no doubt. All right, man, good stuff. And I
feel like whether we like it or not, one week
from today, we will officially one way either know that
these guys are DOA, time for a eulogy, and they're
dead and buried, or they have risen from the ranks
of the dead and they have found a way to
climb back in it. So we'll talk in a week.
(16:16):
All right, man.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
All right, guys, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
All right, Larry Stone with us on the air. The update,
if anybody cares, 6-4 Houston, top of the night. So
the Astros win this game today, and the M's are
going to fall further and further back because it's no
longer just about what they're doing. It's about what the
Astros are doing, obviously. I don't know, man. Houston, Dick,
in the last 22 games, they're 11-11. Since the end
of July, they're 17-16. End of June, they're 30-26. I mean,
(16:43):
your point about how they started is fair. They were
horrible in April and May. Since the end of May,
they're 46-37. But they haven't done anything overall in the
grand scheme of 2026 that should have you in a
position to be six games behind them. Nothing. No, they haven't.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
But I mean, the talk two weeks ago was, hey,
this Houston team could go 10 and 16, 10 and
17 down the stretch. And they've shown no, they've shown
nothing in the last four months that would indicate that
they would go 10 and 17.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But that's what's pathetic is that they're just playing 500 ball.
They're four games over since the end of June. And
yet they're six games up. I mean, again, they've given
you every window to run away from this thing, and
you've pissed it away. We're going to break. Gabe Spire,
Mariner Reliever. We'll talk to him next on 93.3 KJRFM.
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, boys and girls, we're back on a busy
Tuesday night right here on 93.3 KJRFM. And we're a
lot of folks talking about the Seahawks starting tomorrow against
the Patriots, Huskies, and the Apple Cup on Sunday. But
Mariners have got to start getting some wins and piling
them up fast. Big, big, big, did I say big,
three-game series with the Rangers starting tonight. And a guy
who's having a hell of a year in the Mariner bullpen,
(18:18):
Gabe Spire, with us right now on the radio show
from T-Mobile Park before first pitch against the Rangers tonight. Gabe,
how you doing, man? I'm good.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, appreciate you jumping on. Thanks for doing this. So
what's the vibe like, man, inside that clubhouse right now?
I mean, there's no reason to kind of sugarcoat anything.
You guys need to start winning some games and winning
them as fast as you can, obviously, with as many
as you can. So talk about that. What's the vibe?
What's the atmosphere like in the clubhouse right now, man?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, you know, it's been a tough stretch. It's been
a tough season overall. But, you know, to be, you know,
still in it– is a blessing and, and, uh, we
need to take advantage of it. And like you guys said,
start winning some ball games and, um, you know, um,
it's always good to have this kind of rivalry with
the Rangers come in. I think it'll fire us up
and hopefully get the ball rolling here. And, um, but yeah,
(19:11):
every game is, is really big from here on out.
We need to start stringing some wins together and, um,
you know, we're looking forward to the challenge. Um, And, uh,
you know, can't wait to kick it off tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Gabe, what does you mentioned being in it? What does
being in it look like to you? Like how many
games do you need to stay back by this date
or this date? How do you, how do you determine
whether you guys are still in it or not?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
You know, it could be out of our hands to
be honest. I mean, if the Astros and Rangers decide
to win every ball game from here on out, there's
not much we can do. You know, all we can
do is focus on, you know, each game every night, um,
and try to do our best, to win each game
and you know the rest is kind of out of
our hands and um i think the best way to
go about that is just you know pitch to pitch
(19:53):
ending the inning kind of breaking it down into smaller
pieces and try to win just each at bat um
and kind of and go about it that way and
then you know hopefully the wins will stack up and
but like i said you know we're kind of in
a spot where we're also relying on other teams to
lose games. So it's a tough spot to be in.
But like I said, all we can do is handle
our business and, and try to do our best to
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win each game.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, Gabe Spire, Mariner reliever with us before the M
start a three-game series with the Rangers. And I guess,
how did we get here, right? Like, this is a
team that was eight outs away from the World Series
a year ago. How did we get to a point
where the following year, on the 8th of September, we're
six out in the wild card, six out in the division,
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and scratching and clawing our way just to be a
factor in this thing? What happened?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
You know, I wish I had a clear-cut answer for you.
You know, my mind, when you ask that question, my
mind goes straight to injuries. You know, we've had a handful,
you know, missing Cal, Donovan. Donovan was a huge addition
for us this offseason. And, you know, he hasn't been
on the field all that much, unfortunately. And, you know,
Matt Brash is a big piece of our bullpen. So,
you know, my, you know, first thought goes to that, injuries. But,
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you know, at the same time, you know, we're disappointed
in the way the season's gone. And I wish I
had a better answer for you. But, you know, we've
been injured and, and we kind of had this like
snowball effect of kind of like just playing bad games,
bad baseball, and it's been hard to stop the snowball. And,
you know, it's all we can do is just take
it one day at a time and, and grind these,
(21:25):
you know, last games out and try to win as
many as possible. And, you know, it's, you know, it's
tough to, you can't dwell on the past, you know,
we're all disappointed in the way the season's been up
to this point, but it's time to flush that and
really just kind of focus on these last couple of
weeks here and, and try to squeeze into the playoffs
and get hot.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, Gabe, you mentioned you got to flush it at
this point and move on. Gabe Spire with us. Your teammate,
Bryce Miller was on with us a week ago and
he told us on the air that he thought there
was too much chatter up until recently about what happened
a year ago in 2025. Do you kind of share
those same thoughts or no?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh, you know, I don't know about that. You know, I,
I know that, you know, there was a lot of
expectations going into this year and, We all kind of
felt them, but we were up for the challenge. I'm
thinking back to spring training. Everyone was super excited being
that close to playing the biggest series in the world.
Everyone wanted to get back to that point, and it's
(22:24):
been a frustrating year for a lot of guys. I
know a lot of individual people on this team have
not had the years that they wanted to have individually,
and as a team, it hasn't gone the way we've hoped, but.
But like I said, I'm just going to go back to,
you know, we need to flush that and really just
focus on these next couple weeks.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, you are one of those players that has had
a very, very good season, and you've only thrown 39 innings.
So let's just talk about what type of workload can
Gabe Spire have between now and the end of the season,
because you're well under what you pitched last year due
to the time being out.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, I mean, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling fresh-headed. You know,
I'm going to take the ball every time that phone rings,
and it's for me, no doubt. And it is, you know,
it's August, so the body, you know, it's not feeling great.
You know, I have thrown in quite a few games.
But at the same time, for it, I'm sorry, it's September.
For it being September, I'm feeling pretty good and ready
(23:22):
to take the ball whenever they ask.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, Gabe Spire with us, and Gabe, I don't know
how much sports talk radio you listen to. First of all,
do you? Do you flip on sports radio in the
car on the way to work? Oh, I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I'm an Apple Music guy, but I always love joining
with you guys and others. It's fun to talk on
the radio. sports talk show.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So for sure, if you were listening, you would have
probably heard a lot of talk about the skipper, right?
I mean, whether fair or unfair, you know, as well
as I, that's one of those jobs where you get
all the blame and maybe not enough credit, right? When
things are going well. So Logan Gilbert was on with
us a few weeks ago, right?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Dick.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And we asked him about Dan. I want to ask
you the same thought. If you were to flip on
this radio station or any other, and you heard criticism
of Dan Wilson, What would your reaction be to that?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
You know, Dan is a great manager in my mind.
I've had a few here in the big leagues, and
I love Dan. I think he's a great baseball mind,
you know, Mariners legend. He led us to, you know,
almost the World Series last year in his first, you know,
full year managing. So, you know, he's got what it takes,
and we're behind him. It's really not– there shouldn't be
(24:38):
much blame on him. It should be on us. You know,
we haven't played– good baseball and it's not Dan's fault. So, um, um,
I love Dan. I think he's doing a great job and, um,
I hope he stays for the long haul.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Well, he's pretty consistent in his, uh, post game speeches.
Like he never raises his voice above like a two
out of 10. Does he raise his voice with you guys?
Is he different in the clubhouse? Maybe after one of
those stinkers that you guys have had that, uh, you know, does,
does he get after a little bit or does he
stay calm all the time?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
You know, 99% of the time he's calm, but he
does have a switch and we have flipped it. So
it happens. But yeah, he's intense when he needs to be.
But like I said, 99% of the time he's pretty
even keeled.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, Dick asked about how many games out do you
have to be? How close do you have to be
before you kind of still feel like you're in it
or maybe even out of it? How much are you
scoreboard watching? You know, we're doing that every day. We're
checking the standings. We're reading the scores of the Astros
game and the Ranger game on the air. I mean,
you're in the bullpen, so you would have to look
obviously above your head to see the scoreboard. But do
(25:43):
you check the scores on a daily basis? Are we
doing that yet?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, I am.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You know, I want to make the playoffs, so I
want to see where we're at and kind of know
the standing. So, yeah, I'm not going to lie. I
check it. But I think I honestly need to stop,
you know, because we just need to focus on winning
our ballgames, and the rest is kind of out of
our hands. We can only control what we can control,
and that's getting, you know, our ballclub wins and not
worrying about what the other teams are doing.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I got you. Well, Gabe, why don't we do this?
We'll just agree to do this. You give us your number,
and we'll just text you when we think you need
to know something. All right. How's that?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
But, uh, uh, we're going to fight till the end,
no matter what the number is.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I got you. All right, man. Hey, go get him tonight. Uh,
and we'll talk down the road. Appreciate it, man.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
All right. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Gabe Spire with us, Mariner reliever on the radio program. And, uh, look,
I mean, you're just, you're not going to get a
guy to say a bad thing about Dan Wilson. He
is light in that locker room. He's Nobody has ever
said that Dan Wilson is a jerk or an a-hole
or a bad dude. He's a good dude. Like everybody
likes Dan, but is that what this team needs right now?
(26:54):
That's the important thing. I don't care what you are,
what your personality is, how you behave, how you treat
other people. You just give me what this team needs
to win. And if that's you being a jerk, then
go for it. If that's you being a hard ass,
then go for it. If that's you being everybody's buddy,
if that's what gets me a World Series dick, then
(27:15):
go for it. But it's kind of becoming increasingly obvious
that whatever Dan's doing is not what this team needs.
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
All right, lots to get to. Big thanks to the Ram.
Gabe Spire will join us coming up in about a
half an hour or so from T-Mobile Park before tonight's
game one of three against the Rangers. And, Larry, why
don't we just start right there and talk a little baseball.
There's all kinds of college football news, professional football news
to get to. apple cup reaction but here we are
with 18 games left and the m's are six games
(00:41):
out the astros are winning right now and i don't
know man you're generally a positive guy but even you've
got to admit that things are looking bleak right now
with this baseball team what do you think yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Very very bleak i think divish's story today said it
pretty well you know the math mathematically they're still alive
but realistically they have very little hope um yeah six
out with 18 to play Um, the, the, the schedule, the,
the so-called easy part of the schedule, as I tweeted
the other day, it's, it's predicated on them actually winning
(01:15):
those games. And when you lose three out of four
to the A's, uh, there's no confidence. There should be
no confidence. They could win any of these games, including
the other, the remaining games with the A's or the
games with the angels or even the games with the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Unless they just turn it on and go practically undefeated
the rest of the way, I think it's pretty hopeless.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And, Larry, on the flip side, when are we going
to just admit that the Houston Astros aren't a bad
baseball team? Like, they haven't played bad baseball for a long,
long time.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, well, that's fair for, I mean, really, for years,
if that's what you mean.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Just even this year. I mean, they've been playing pretty
darn good baseball for a couple months now.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, they got off to a horrible start and people
were writing them off. I kind of wrote them off,
but they did have a lot of injuries. And when
those guys came back, I mean, there's just a winning
tradition and knowledge and muscle memory in that organization. And
I think it came to the fore again this year.
And they have a guy much like Cal last year.
(02:22):
in your Don, who is playing MVP caliber ball and
kind of leading the way, extraordinary seat, triple crown potential season.
So when you have something like that, it can take
you a long way.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, they were 57-55 on the 1st of August, and
now they're 73-71.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, but they were 10 under. 500 at one point
this season.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right, but, okay, sure. But, Dick, they were also 43-46
on the 1st of July. I mean, yeah, if you
want to go back to early June, but the last
couple of months they're playing like five or six games over.
That's not bad. Right, but they're not a good baseball team.
They're a mediocre baseball team. And they are kicking everybody's
ass because everybody else stinks. I mean, I don't want
(03:03):
to sit here and say the biggest reason why the
Mariners are out of this thing is because the Astros
are incredible. The biggest reason why the Mariners are out
of this thing is because they're terrible, man.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
No, but the reason you said that one of the
biggest reasons that you thought they had hope was because
the Astros were terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And right now that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But the Astros have given you every don't-you-think-Larry opportunity ever.
to run away with this thing. There are two games
over 500 for F sake. What are we talking about, Larry?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
No, you're, you're absolutely right. It's it was there for
the taking. I mean, you look at the years, recent
years where the Mariners missed the playoffs with 89, 90,
88 wins. I think, you know, in recent years, the
years they didn't make the playoffs, but had strong runs
at it. That would have, if they had had that
this year, it would have been a cakewalk. they have
(03:53):
no one to blame but themselves. I mean, it's even
ludicrous to think that they even have a chance when
they're 10 games under 500 with 18 to play. That should,
you know, they should be by rights just already looking
to head to next year and bringing up kids and
playing them. But because of the division, they have this
outside shot, but it's not because they've earned anything. It's
(04:15):
because they've been bad. And you're right. The Astros have
been the definition of mediocrity, you know, basically a 500 team,
but that in this division, that makes them the stalwarts.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
You mentioned the kids. I mean, I'm done there. I'm
completely done with the season. I want to see a
Royal and Montez every single game. I want to see
what 2027 is going to look like. When do you
think the Mariners will decide to do that?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, I think they're going to do that sporadically the
rest of the year. I mean, we've already seen Montez
play almost every game. And, you know, Arroyo played the
first day he was up. I think, I don't know
if the, well, the lineup's probably out since the game
starts in a few minutes. I haven't seen it yet.
Is Arroyo in it?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No, Montez.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Montez is starting at DH tonight for them.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah. I'm with you. I would like to see Arroyo.
And it's not like, I mean, how could it be
much worse? Could, you know, could he be any worse
than Taylor Ward, who has been essentially the worst Continuing
the tradition of Rob Refsnyder of being the worst player
in baseball. So, you know, what is it? What does
(05:21):
it hurt? What are you going to lose by playing
those kids? You might catch a spark even.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's the thing is that the Rainiers are still going.
They got a couple weeks left. So Montez and Arroyo,
those guys could be playing every day in AAA. Instead,
they're goofing around up here in the major leagues. But
I don't know, man. I mean, I'm just kind of
wondering if this thing is going the way we think
it's going to go. How long after the season actually
ends do you think it'll be before there's an announcement
(05:47):
that the manager job is now open?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Probably the next day. I don't think it'll take, I
don't think it'll take long. I mean, I think there's
a growing sense, you know, I think I told you
guys several weeks ago that if they didn't make the playoffs,
I didn't think Dan would be back. That seems to
be the consensus around baseball. Now you see national guys
saying the same thing. So, you know, I wouldn't be
surprised if it was within a couple of days after
(06:12):
the big question, of course, is what happens to the
brain trust to Poto and Hollander. And that's, I think
it's hard to gauge that one really. you know, I
think there's, there's arguments both ways and we'll get, it
just kind of depends on what John Stanton feels. And,
you know, he hasn't shown a tendency to be impatient
(06:32):
and he seems to be, you know, he's always been
a supporter of DePoto. So, you know, I, I, I
think there's a, there's a possibility that, that, that there
won't be any change there, that it'll all be on
the manager and the coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, what do you think should happen? How, how hot
would Jerry DePoto's seat be in your mind?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, I think you could justify firing him. And, you know,
11 years, two playoff bursts this year went wildly out
of control. You know, just a total, I mean, every move,
just about every move that he made in the offseason
(07:12):
did not work out. But you have to also look
at the fact that I think they were coming off
five straight winning seasons, which they've never done. Two playoff
bursts in the last post-rebuild. I'm not sure what I
would do, Dick. I'm undecided on that one, which is
not a great answer. I'd probably lean towards this organization
(07:37):
needing a reboot and new direction, new philosophies.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And so I probably lean in that direction.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I just I'd be surprised if they let him go,
to be honest with you. I think I understand your
point about the reboot. And I'm not saying that I
would not not fire him. I've always wondered if this
is like Steve Sarkeesian and Chris Peterson, that there's only
so far Jerry can take this thing. I don't know
if he's hamstrung by ownership enough to make a major difference. Obviously,
(08:10):
we'd like to have more money. But do you believe that? That, man,
what Jerry did going from the outhouse to, I don't know,
what's below the penthouse, right? Whatever that is, that next
level before you get to the top of the hotel.
The suites. The suites, right. Is it possible that he's
done all he can do for this franchise?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Uh, I don't know if I would say that. I mean,
with the different pitching decisions in game seven last year,
you know, they would have gotten to the world series, uh,
and then he would have gotten them. He would have
achieved that. So it wasn't like he, he didn't build
a team that was capable of doing that. They almost,
they almost did. They almost did that. So, uh, you know,
(08:51):
sometimes things just go wrong. It happens to organizations all
the time. This was just kind of a perfect storm
of everything going wrong. Injuries, underperformance, manager decisions, everything. I
think there's a school of thought that it could turn
(09:13):
around next year with the right additions. Yeah. But I
think you could also squint your eyes in a different
direction and say that this team needs an overhaul too,
that there's so many holes and so many deficiencies that
it's not as close as it appeared at the start
of the season.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Our weekly conversation with Larry Stone brought to you by
our friends at the Ram Restaurant and Brewery. Larry, let's
talk some Apple Cup. I thought, and I've been to
probably 25 of these, I thought it was the worst
atmosphere I've seen in any Apple Cup I've been to. Um,
do you think it came closer to death because of
that this Sunday, or do you think the Cougars performance
(09:54):
breathed some life into it because it wasn't 56-10?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah. It's hard to tell the atmosphere from watching on TV,
but I'll take your word for it that it was Deadsville.
Probably closer. Probably closer to death, I would say. Because, yeah,
(10:18):
the whole thing is... you know, the, the argument for
keeping it alive is that it means something to people.
And if, if, if there's, if that atmosphere and that
commitment is not there, then, then I think that there's
stronger arguments for not keeping it going.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, uh, would you want to keep it going if
you were a Cougar fan?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah. I would want to keep it going. Yeah. Because
I think it would mean more even, you know, it
always meant a lot to the Cougars to, to win
that game and upset the Huskies. And if you do
it now, I, It's not going to happen often, but
on the rare occasion if it happens like two years ago,
I think it means even more. So I would like
to give them that chance to pull that upset and
(11:01):
to keep the rivalry going. It's just the... History and
tradition mean something, and I'd hate to break that up.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Larry Stone's with us, courtesy of the Ram. What about
this proposed 2014 playoff that's getting kicked around now? You know,
the CFP, ESPN in discussions to start the process about
talking about a 2014 playoff. All three of us remember
the days where you'd go to bed on a Monday night,
wake up on Tuesday morning, and... the paper would tell
(11:29):
you who won the national championship, right? And those days
are over, man. So does a 2014 playoff appeal to you,
Larry Stone?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I haven't thought this one out too much, but, you know,
at a point, you know, you can get a little
too unwieldy. I would, you know, I think the way
it is now is pretty good. I don't think I
would expand it even more. So I would tend to not.
proposed uh favor that got.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It i'm with you i guess the only the only
potential positive is i think if we have a 2014
playoff we're going to get a lot more of these
texas ohio state games that we're getting this saturday instead
of only one for the entire season we're probably going
to have a multitude maybe even a big 10 sec
crossover week so does that breathe a little bit of
(12:23):
life into the possibility.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Then Yeah, that's a fair point. Because I think you
have too many teams weaseling out from not wanting to
schedule those games. So if you can get more of those... absolutely,
that would be a point in the favor.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Larry, how about tomorrow night? Seahawks and Patriots. I don't
know what your thoughts are on this season, but looking
to do something that this team tried to do in
2014 and some ways got robbed of it. Some ways
they robbed themselves. Otherwise, maybe they were robbed by somebody else.
But back-to-back championships is what's on the line this year
(13:05):
for Seahawks football. I mean, you tell me. Dick and
I were debating whether or not these guys have a
better chance to do that than the 2014 team did.
I guess that 2014 team came within one yard, right,
of repeating as champions. But what do you make of
the odds of this team doing what that team could
not do?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, I would say the odds are stacked against them
just because of how extraordinary– hard it is to do
in any season not just to repeat but to win
it in any particular season and to do it back
to back i just think you know it's i would
take the field and then nothing against the seahawks and
i think they're going to be a strong contender and
they've done a you know schneider's done a great job
(13:47):
of of bringing back as much as you possibly can
of the nucleus of that team given the restrictions of
the salary cap and the like But it's just too
many things could happen to derail that. And, you know,
the 14 team did everything right and had it in
their hand, in their grasp, and still couldn't pull it off. But,
(14:09):
I mean, that team was there. It was right there
for them, and they didn't do it. But, you know,
it wouldn't shock me if they did it again. They
have the capability of doing it. I just think it's
just there's too many barriers along the way. So, you know.
Always go for the field instead of the one team.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, how much of a bonus is it, though, that
they really don't have a target on their back? I mean,
the NFL just got done with their player voting, NFL
Top 100. there were three Seattle Seahawks voted in the
top 100 and only two in the top 96 and
the highest paid cornerback in the league until right now
wasn't even on the list. What do you think of that?
(14:50):
Just the lack of respect that the other players are
showing the Superbowl champions.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah. I don't quite get it. This whole thing about
sort of anointing the Rams is the, as the favorites
and the, and the de facto champions, uh, I mean,
you look, they were pretty dominant last year, you know,
in the second half of the season and through the playoffs,
they bring back, as I said, they bring back almost
every starter, including most of the key players, coaching staff,
(15:20):
except for the offensive coordinator. Uh, it is, it is
puzzling why they don't, uh, have more respect, I guess
is the word. And, you know, that will be a,
I'm sure that will be a, uh, a galvanizing point
for those guys and, and it's probably in their favor
to have something to, you know, to feel, you know,
(15:42):
to feel slighted that works in athletics. It does drive teams. So, uh,
you know, uh, McDonald probably is very happy to have
that scenario that they're not just, being touted as the
obvious choice to repeat.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, no doubt. All right, man, good stuff. And I
feel like whether we like it or not, one week
from today, we will officially one way either know that
these guys are DOA, time for a eulogy, and they're
dead and buried, or they have risen from the ranks
of the dead and they have found a way to
climb back in it. So we'll talk in a week.
(16:16):
All right, man.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
All right, guys, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
All right, Larry Stone with us on the air. The update,
if anybody cares, 6-4 Houston, top of the night. So
the Astros win this game today, and the M's are
going to fall further and further back because it's no
longer just about what they're doing. It's about what the
Astros are doing, obviously. I don't know, man. Houston, Dick,
in the last 22 games, they're 11-11. Since the end
of July, they're 17-16. End of June, they're 30-26. I mean,
(16:43):
your point about how they started is fair. They were
horrible in April and May. Since the end of May,
they're 46-37. But they haven't done anything overall in the
grand scheme of 2026 that should have you in a
position to be six games behind them. Nothing. No, they haven't.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
But I mean, the talk two weeks ago was, hey,
this Houston team could go 10 and 16, 10 and
17 down the stretch. And they've shown no, they've shown
nothing in the last four months that would indicate that
they would go 10 and 17.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But that's what's pathetic is that they're just playing 500 ball.
They're four games over since the end of June. And
yet they're six games up. I mean, again, they've given
you every window to run away from this thing, and
you've pissed it away. We're going to break. Gabe Spire,
Mariner Reliever. We'll talk to him next on 93.3 KJRFM.
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, boys and girls, we're back on a busy
Tuesday night right here on 93.3 KJRFM. And we're a
lot of folks talking about the Seahawks starting tomorrow against
the Patriots, Huskies, and the Apple Cup on Sunday. But
Mariners have got to start getting some wins and piling
them up fast. Big, big, big, did I say big,
three-game series with the Rangers starting tonight. And a guy
who's having a hell of a year in the Mariner bullpen,
(18:18):
Gabe Spire, with us right now on the radio show
from T-Mobile Park before first pitch against the Rangers tonight. Gabe,
how you doing, man? I'm good.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, appreciate you jumping on. Thanks for doing this. So
what's the vibe like, man, inside that clubhouse right now?
I mean, there's no reason to kind of sugarcoat anything.
You guys need to start winning some games and winning
them as fast as you can, obviously, with as many
as you can. So talk about that. What's the vibe?
What's the atmosphere like in the clubhouse right now, man?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, you know, it's been a tough stretch. It's been
a tough season overall. But, you know, to be, you know,
still in it– is a blessing and, and, uh, we
need to take advantage of it. And like you guys said,
start winning some ball games and, um, you know, um,
it's always good to have this kind of rivalry with
the Rangers come in. I think it'll fire us up
and hopefully get the ball rolling here. And, um, but yeah,
(19:11):
every game is, is really big from here on out.
We need to start stringing some wins together and, um,
you know, we're looking forward to the challenge. Um, And, uh,
you know, can't wait to kick it off tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Gabe, what does you mentioned being in it? What does
being in it look like to you? Like how many
games do you need to stay back by this date
or this date? How do you, how do you determine
whether you guys are still in it or not?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
You know, it could be out of our hands to
be honest. I mean, if the Astros and Rangers decide
to win every ball game from here on out, there's
not much we can do. You know, all we can
do is focus on, you know, each game every night, um,
and try to do our best, to win each game
and you know the rest is kind of out of
our hands and um i think the best way to
go about that is just you know pitch to pitch
(19:53):
ending the inning kind of breaking it down into smaller
pieces and try to win just each at bat um
and kind of and go about it that way and
then you know hopefully the wins will stack up and
but like i said you know we're kind of in
a spot where we're also relying on other teams to
lose games. So it's a tough spot to be in.
But like I said, all we can do is handle
our business and, and try to do our best to
(20:15):
win each game.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, Gabe Spire, Mariner reliever with us before the M
start a three-game series with the Rangers. And I guess,
how did we get here, right? Like, this is a
team that was eight outs away from the World Series
a year ago. How did we get to a point
where the following year, on the 8th of September, we're
six out in the wild card, six out in the division,
(20:36):
and scratching and clawing our way just to be a
factor in this thing? What happened?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
You know, I wish I had a clear-cut answer for you.
You know, my mind, when you ask that question, my
mind goes straight to injuries. You know, we've had a handful,
you know, missing Cal, Donovan. Donovan was a huge addition
for us this offseason. And, you know, he hasn't been
on the field all that much, unfortunately. And, you know,
Matt Brash is a big piece of our bullpen. So,
you know, my, you know, first thought goes to that, injuries. But,
(21:04):
you know, at the same time, you know, we're disappointed
in the way the season's gone. And I wish I
had a better answer for you. But, you know, we've
been injured and, and we kind of had this like
snowball effect of kind of like just playing bad games,
bad baseball, and it's been hard to stop the snowball. And,
you know, it's all we can do is just take
it one day at a time and, and grind these,
(21:25):
you know, last games out and try to win as
many as possible. And, you know, it's, you know, it's
tough to, you can't dwell on the past, you know,
we're all disappointed in the way the season's been up
to this point, but it's time to flush that and
really just kind of focus on these last couple of
weeks here and, and try to squeeze into the playoffs
and get hot.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, Gabe, you mentioned you got to flush it at
this point and move on. Gabe Spire with us. Your teammate,
Bryce Miller was on with us a week ago and
he told us on the air that he thought there
was too much chatter up until recently about what happened
a year ago in 2025. Do you kind of share
those same thoughts or no?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh, you know, I don't know about that. You know, I,
I know that, you know, there was a lot of
expectations going into this year and, We all kind of
felt them, but we were up for the challenge. I'm
thinking back to spring training. Everyone was super excited being
that close to playing the biggest series in the world.
Everyone wanted to get back to that point, and it's
(22:24):
been a frustrating year for a lot of guys. I
know a lot of individual people on this team have
not had the years that they wanted to have individually,
and as a team, it hasn't gone the way we've hoped, but.
But like I said, I'm just going to go back to,
you know, we need to flush that and really just
focus on these next couple weeks.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, you are one of those players that has had
a very, very good season, and you've only thrown 39 innings.
So let's just talk about what type of workload can
Gabe Spire have between now and the end of the season,
because you're well under what you pitched last year due
to the time being out.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, I mean, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling fresh-headed. You know,
I'm going to take the ball every time that phone rings,
and it's for me, no doubt. And it is, you know,
it's August, so the body, you know, it's not feeling great.
You know, I have thrown in quite a few games.
But at the same time, for it, I'm sorry, it's September.
For it being September, I'm feeling pretty good and ready
(23:22):
to take the ball whenever they ask.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, Gabe Spire with us, and Gabe, I don't know
how much sports talk radio you listen to. First of all,
do you? Do you flip on sports radio in the
car on the way to work? Oh, I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I'm an Apple Music guy, but I always love joining
with you guys and others. It's fun to talk on
the radio. sports talk show.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So for sure, if you were listening, you would have
probably heard a lot of talk about the skipper, right?
I mean, whether fair or unfair, you know, as well
as I, that's one of those jobs where you get
all the blame and maybe not enough credit, right? When
things are going well. So Logan Gilbert was on with
us a few weeks ago, right?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Dick.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And we asked him about Dan. I want to ask
you the same thought. If you were to flip on
this radio station or any other, and you heard criticism
of Dan Wilson, What would your reaction be to that?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
You know, Dan is a great manager in my mind.
I've had a few here in the big leagues, and
I love Dan. I think he's a great baseball mind,
you know, Mariners legend. He led us to, you know,
almost the World Series last year in his first, you know,
full year managing. So, you know, he's got what it takes,
and we're behind him. It's really not– there shouldn't be
(24:38):
much blame on him. It should be on us. You know,
we haven't played– good baseball and it's not Dan's fault. So, um, um,
I love Dan. I think he's doing a great job and, um,
I hope he stays for the long haul.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Well, he's pretty consistent in his, uh, post game speeches.
Like he never raises his voice above like a two
out of 10. Does he raise his voice with you guys?
Is he different in the clubhouse? Maybe after one of
those stinkers that you guys have had that, uh, you know, does,
does he get after a little bit or does he
stay calm all the time?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
You know, 99% of the time he's calm, but he
does have a switch and we have flipped it. So
it happens. But yeah, he's intense when he needs to be.
But like I said, 99% of the time he's pretty
even keeled.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, Dick asked about how many games out do you
have to be? How close do you have to be
before you kind of still feel like you're in it
or maybe even out of it? How much are you
scoreboard watching? You know, we're doing that every day. We're
checking the standings. We're reading the scores of the Astros
game and the Ranger game on the air. I mean,
you're in the bullpen, so you would have to look
obviously above your head to see the scoreboard. But do
(25:43):
you check the scores on a daily basis? Are we
doing that yet?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, I am.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You know, I want to make the playoffs, so I
want to see where we're at and kind of know
the standing. So, yeah, I'm not going to lie. I
check it. But I think I honestly need to stop,
you know, because we just need to focus on winning
our ballgames, and the rest is kind of out of
our hands. We can only control what we can control,
and that's getting, you know, our ballclub wins and not
worrying about what the other teams are doing.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I got you. Well, Gabe, why don't we do this?
We'll just agree to do this. You give us your number,
and we'll just text you when we think you need
to know something. All right. How's that?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
But, uh, uh, we're going to fight till the end,
no matter what the number is.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I got you. All right, man. Hey, go get him tonight. Uh,
and we'll talk down the road. Appreciate it, man.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
All right. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Gabe Spire with us, Mariner reliever on the radio program. And, uh, look,
I mean, you're just, you're not going to get a
guy to say a bad thing about Dan Wilson. He
is light in that locker room. He's Nobody has ever
said that Dan Wilson is a jerk or an a-hole
or a bad dude. He's a good dude. Like everybody
likes Dan, but is that what this team needs right now?
(26:54):
That's the important thing. I don't care what you are,
what your personality is, how you behave, how you treat
other people. You just give me what this team needs
to win. And if that's you being a jerk, then
go for it. If that's you being a hard ass,
then go for it. If that's you being everybody's buddy,
if that's what gets me a World Series dick, then
(27:15):
go for it. But it's kind of becoming increasingly obvious
that whatever Dan's doing is not what this team needs.
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