September 9, 2026 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain look ahead to the Seahawks season kicking off today after the new owners were introduced, then Kurt Warner joins the show from Lumen Field to preview Seattle’s season and quest to repeat as well as more NFL thoughts as the season kicks off, plus we get Fact or Fiction and have Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're all getting ready for the Seahawks and Patriots coming
up at 520 tonight. We got Kurt Warner joining us
on the show. That's Kurt with a K, by the way.
How many people in the audience, though, need to have
that designation.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You think?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Not nearly as many as 10 or 15 years old.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I think you're right, unfortunately. Kurt with a K, not
Kurt with a C. Let's hope that Jadarian Price plays
like Kurt with a C when he did as a
rookie back 43 years ago in 1983 when he ran
for almost 1,500 yards and was phenomenal for the Hawks.
But Kurt with a K, two-time NFL MVP, Pro Football
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Hall of Famer, will join us from the booth at
Lumen Field for Westwood 1 at 320 and then his
broadcast partner, Let's face it, Kurt's been carrying this guy
for years. Kevin Harlan is back today, courtesy of the
Emerald Queen Casino. He'll join us at 5 o'clock tonight
from the booth right before kickoff. Neil Kosla had a
chance to go over to Lumen today, guys, and talk
with Neil, one-third of the Kosla family that was represented today.
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at the table, at the dais, at the podium. Nehru, Benode,
and Neal were all out there today, and it was interesting.
I mean, I walked away feeling good about it, right?
I walked away thinking these are genuine, humble, legitimate people
that are saying all the right things.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Obviously, the proof will be in the pudding.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
As the years go by, but I think in the end,
what you wanted to hear from a guy like Neil
and a guy like Vinod and a gal like Nehru
is that, hey, we are smart enough to know what
we don't know, okay? And Vinod made it crystal clear.
We're going to let the experts be the experts. We're
going to rely on management to guide us and tell
us what to do.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Neil, I caught up with him.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We're going to hear the conversation coming up at 4.30 today.
Basically said, look, I don't know anything about drafting safeties
or evaluating offensive linemen. I need to learn from McDonald
and Schneider what's going on. Let them teach me what's
going on. So I think they won the press conference, right?
Will they win like Paul Allen and Jody Allen did?
We'll find out. I mean, there was some luck involved
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in that, obviously, but if they can take what those
two did as a blueprint, as a guideline, Dick, and
run with it. The feeling I got today walking out
of that press conference is that this franchise is going
to be just fine.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, I would agree with you. I listened to the
whole thing. It was interesting. I thought there was a
leading question asked to Vinod.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Which one?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
When they talked about, you know, what is this franchise
going to stand for? It was almost like he wanted
the question, whoever was asking the question wanted to say, hey,
we're going to stand for values and principles and all
that sort of stuff. And.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think Vinod was going to go down that road,
and first.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
He said, let me be perfectly clear. Our first priority
is winning. And I thought that was really cool because
we've already talked about other franchises in this town that
don't necessarily prioritize winning over everything else. He said our
first priority is winning. And then he talked about the
strong values and getting the right players in here and everything.
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But I thought Neil was incredibly comfortable.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
For a young.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Guy like that, I thought he was very uncomfortable in
front of the press.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, he's been working with the Niners since he was
18 years old. So he's been around this before, right?
He's been around the atmosphere. He's been around the game.
He's been around the business side. So he's only 33.
He's a young guy. And I told this to Egan
and Crosstalk, and I'll tell it to both you guys,
that I got the sense throughout this whole process that
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at some point, Neil Kosla was going to take this
thing over, and it would be his show.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I mean, you know, just by default.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, you know, he's got two aging parents and
he's 33. So it does make sense that at some
point in time it's going to be his deal. And
I feel even more comfortable saying that today. This is
going to be his deal. He'll be the guy. He'll
be the chairman. He'll be the CEO. whatever they want
to call that thing. So I think Neil Kozla is
a guy that we absolutely have got to get to know. But,
you know, just in the meantime, Dick, look, there's no
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need to do anything. Everything's gravy, right? You know, just
let these guys be who they are. Let this thing
cycle through. Let the contracts that they're dealing with right
now cycle through. Be there when Byron Murphy needs to
be re-signed. Be there when Sam Darnold needs to be re-signed.
We're going to get some signs, and there's some significant
moments that will.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Come up in the very near future.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Where we will start to get an idea of what
the Koestler family is all about. And then the big ones, obviously,
when Schneider needs to be replaced, whenever that is, McDonald,
whenever that is, when they do need to add 100
suites to the stadium, whenever that is, we'll find out more.
But I think he said it a couple times, and it.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Was almost like a cliche, but I think it's very important.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
This is an unbelievable time for that family to be
taking over this franchise. Because they have a GM that's
going nowhere. They got a coach that's going nowhere. They
seemingly have a quarterback that's going nowhere, right? They have
some hotshot players at quarterback and wide receiver that were
just signed to brand new contracts that were going over,
or excuse me, going nowhere. This is a great time
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for them to just take this thing over and just
build up some goodwill, build up some equity with the community,
and almost just jump on the train. Let this thing
roll for four or five more years before you really
got to get involved and make some hard decisions.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Did you think that I agree with you on Neil
taking over at some point?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Did you get the feeling that he's going to take.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Over like right away?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Like he'll be the primary decision maker right away?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, I think it's going to be a family thing
at first with all of them, everybody getting involved. But
I think Neil is going to be there. and eventually
he will be that guy. I don't know actually when
D-Day happens, Dick, that's what you're asking, when Decision Day comes,
who will make the final call. I do think it's
going to be kind of a community thing with the
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family and with John Schneider. and Chuck Arnold and Mike McDonald.
That's the feeling I got. I mean, look, none of
us really know, right, until this actually happens. But I
feel good, and I feel great about this team's chances
in 2026. I think, again, we talked about this with
Chuck on the roundtable this morning. Outside of the Patriots,
excuse me, the Chiefs, I think in.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
19, and the Buccaneers, I think in 20.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
In the last 15, 20 years, nobody else has brought
back a bigger percentage of their snaps than these guys have, right?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So, look, this is primed. This is as good a shot.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
As we've ever had maybe at least since 14 for
sure obviously yeah to do this again and I think
the longer this goes the more the hype train gets
out of control the more people will be talking about
things like.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Well I'm more comfortable saying they're a Super Bowl team
right now than I was a year ago today that's
for sure and they ended up winning the Super Bowl
and as I mentioned the other day I'm not as
comfortable saying they're a Super Bowl championship team as I
was 12 years ago when 2014 started. I really thought
that team was going to repeat, and they came within
one play of repeating.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, we have more snaps back from that team.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, we have more snaps back.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
We don't have the star power, but we do have
more snaps back.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
From that team.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
This team, I think, you know, I don't know if
the rest of the NFL is.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
at the Seahawks level like it was in 2014.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I do think the Rams are at the Seahawks level, clearly.
I don't know if there's any other team that I
would say is at the Seahawks level, but the problem
is the Rams are in your division. So if you
don't win it, you're the five seed. That's the issue
with the Rams being in your division.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
All right, let's do this. Kurt Warner, we'll ask him
about all that and a lot more. Kurt with a K,
one half of the Westwood One broadcast crew. Kurt Warner,
two-time NFL MVP, will join next.
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Speaker 3 (07:58):
All right, we are back. We are rolling, baby.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Getting ready for kickoff tonight, 520 Seahawks and Patriots. Kevin
Harlan will make his debut for 2026. Coming up at
5 o'clock, courtesy of the Emerald Queen, we're going to
hear from Neil Kosla from the new Seahawk owners, the
Kosla family, coming up about 4.30 this afternoon. But joining
us right now on the radio show, he actually is
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one half of the legendary Harlan and Warner broadcast crew
in town with Westwood One to call this game for
national radio. Two-time MVP and our friend Kurt Warner joining
us right now on the radio program.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Kurt, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you
guys doing? Good.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Good to have you back on the radio show, man,
as we kick off the NFL season.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I mean, this means good things for the Seahawks when
you and Kevin are here for week one because that
means the Hawks are winners, baby.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Coming off their championship a year ago. And here we
go on a Wednesday night. You ready? I am definitely ready.
I have no favorites in this one. So I don't
want any of the Patriots fans getting mad at me
at the Seahawks win saying it's on to me and Kevin.
But what a great way to start the season. I mean,
it's the way we ended the season. Obviously, for the
Seahawks fans, it was a. A great finish in Super
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Bowl 60, and I know everybody expects the same type
of result this time out, but a lot of questions.
You know, some new additions for the Patriots, some questions
for the Seahawks, and so will it look the same?
I'm not so sure, but I can't wait for kickoff
and to get this season going.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, let's start there, right, because you're looking to do
something that only guys like Elway Mahomes and Brady have done.
in the last 30 years, and that's repeat as Super
Bowl champions. This is one of the more difficult things
to do in sports, right, guys, is to win consecutive Lombardis.
So maybe talk a bit for a minute, Kurt. You
know this roster. You know the changes that they've made
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to this football team. Why or why not will the
Seahawks repeat as champions?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, the first thing you have to look at is
that there weren't a bunch of huge losses from the
Super Bowl champion roster a year ago. So I think
just in and of itself, you say to yourself, On paper,
this team is good enough to win a championship. They've
got the pieces. They've got the playmakers. They've got the
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guys on defense that are really some good offensive players,
but their defense carried them last year. Those pieces are
in place, and so that's the reason that you say, hey,
this team has a shot. What you know in winning
a championship, getting to a Super Bowl, is that every
season is different, and there's so much that goes into
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getting to that point. You have to get some breaks.
You have to get lucky. You have to stay healthy
at certain positions. There's just so much that goes into
it that it's– that's why it's so hard to repeat.
That's why you named the few teams that have ever
done it because– It is so hard. You know, then
you have to talk about how short the offseason was
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and and being able to deal with success. You know that, hey,
we just won. And now everybody wants you on the
banquets tour. And, you know, they want to talk about
what happened and why you won it last year and
all those great things. And so it's so easy to,
you know, to lose a little bit of focus or
a little bit of that edge that you had the
year before when you were chasing something that you'd never
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been a part of. And so there's just so much
that goes into it that, yes, pieces are in place.
They are good enough, you know, just if everybody stays
healthy with the guys that they're going to have on
the football field. But there's so much, you know, that
is added to that. I mean, and some of it
goes to, hey, but let's look at the Rams. They
beat the Rams by four points in the championship game.
And everybody believes the Rams got better. And so that's
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the other side of it. Not that the Seahawks got worse,
but are there other teams out there that got better,
that will be healthier than they were last year when
they played the Seahawks? So that's why we play the games.
That's why you get between the lines is that everybody
in this league is good enough to beat everybody. any
given Sunday or Wednesday or Thursday or whatever games we
play this year. And so that's what makes it fun.
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But they're the champs until they're not. And I do
believe that they feel that they've got a roster in
place that can compete for a championship again, and that's
exactly what you want on opening night.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Well, Kurt, rarely do we see a Super Bowl champion
with less buzz than the Hawks. I mean, I know
they're on hard knocks, but they don't get a lot
of buzz even in their own division. As you mentioned,
the Rams are getting more buzz than the Seahawks. So
does that help them materially hold on to that edge
that a lot of Super Bowl champions might lose, like
you indicated?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Possibly. I mean, I was never a guy that looked
for an edge. Like, oh, somebody said something about me. Or, oh,
everybody's talking about the Rams instead of the Seahawks. That
fires me. To me, my edge was I wanted to
be the best I could be every time I stepped
between the lines. And that was the focus, and that
was the goal, and that was the drive. And so
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I didn't need any of the outside noise. I believe
most players are like that, although we've heard, you know,
the Aaron Rodgers and the Tom Brady's and these guys
that always say they have a chip on their shoulder.
So you find anything you can to motivate you, to
keep you hungry, to keep that edge that you want.
But for most guys, it's simply can we go out
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and be the best version of ourself for 60 minutes?
Every time we step on the football field, that's what
it takes to win a championship. Can this team do
it back-to-back years? Can Sam Darnold do it not really
back-to-back-to-back years? I mean, the games that he's won over
two years is unprecedented. Can he do it again? I mean,
it's just sustaining it and consistency is so huge in
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this business at this level. And so, you know, all
those things make it really, really hard to do it
in back-to-back years.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, Kurt Warner's with us, and Kurt, you know, Baker
Mayfield signed a $ 55 million a year extension yesterday, which
says two things to me.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Number one, you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Were born about 30 years too early, number one. And
then number two, Sam Darnold, he has another year like
he had last year.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
He's about to get paid.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Over next offseason but people still seem to kind of
doubt this guy and as you said he's 31 and
7 including the playoffs in his last two years and
he just won a championship there's only four quarterbacks in
the NFL ranked higher than him in the NFL top
100 so what is Sam Darnold what's your what's your
perception what's your take on this guy.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Well, I mean, Sam Darnold is a really good NFL quarterback.
No doubt that he stamped his spot as a starting
quarterback in the National Football League. But I also have
high expectations for that position. And I believe that at
any one time, we've only got five or six guys
that are truly elite. And by elite, I mean a
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guy that... You believe no matter what happens around them,
that they can go out and win games and keep
you competitive with their right arm, throwing the football, carrying
them that way. I think that's the one thing that
Sam has to prove yet. And again, who cares? You know,
at the end of the day, who cares? I'm a
Super Bowl champion. You know, I'm a starting quarterback. And
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as you said, he's going to be a starting quarterback
for a long time because of what he's done these
last couple years. But To me, there's always a next level. And,
you know, you got your Mahomes and you got your
Burroughs and you got your Josh Allens. And those are
the guys that you look at and go, okay, that guy,
every time he goes between the lines and you put
the ball in his hands, you believe that he's going
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to make that play and he's going to be able
to carry you if he's got to throw the ball
45 or 50 times a game. Not everybody can do that.
There's a lot of good quarterbacks in this league that
can win when they're a part of something that's really,
really good. There's other quarterbacks that can win in spite
of what the team around them is all about. And
that to me is just the next tier for a
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guy like a Sam Darnold. I mean, even a guy
like a Baker Mayfield, really good quarterback, starting quarterbacks, you know,
to me. I look at them and go, yeah, they're
better than most guys in the world, but they're not
those other five or six. And that's what you chase
for when you're a quarterback is you want to prove
to people that you can be one of those guys.
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And that to me is really all that Sam has
to convince us of at this point.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Hall of Famer Kurt Warner joining us. And let's talk
about the quarterback on the other side, Kurt. There are
a few quarterbacks in the league, I think, where there's
more disagreement into how good they are than Drake May.
There are believers that think he's a top five quarterback
in the league. There are some that are, eh, he's
kind of middle of the pack. What's your take of
Drake May?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
My take is, first of all, he's going into his
third year. So we don't need to define him yet.
What I love is that here's a guy that played
his first year and showed some really good signs, played
his second year and made a huge jump, was in
the MVP conversation, led his team to a Super Bowl
regardless of what that means and what their competition was
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and blah, blah, blah. He led his team to a
Super Bowl. And so I really like what I've seen
from Drake May here. in his first two years. Do
I believe he's an upper echelon quarterback at this stage? No,
I don't. I believe there's a lot of guys, if
I watch them play down in and down out, their
understanding of the position, how they play the game inside
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the pocket, there's a lot of guys that are better
than Drake May right now, but there's a lot of
guys that should be better than Drake May right now.
He's simply going into his third year. He's met the
expectations that anybody has on a young quarterback. I love that.
I think he's got the demeanor. I think he wants
to be great. He's got all the physical talent that
you want to be one of those special quarterbacks. But
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he's just got to grow. And he's got to have time.
And he's got to get experience. And so I love
where he's at right now. He's right where he should
be or where any team would want their second year
going into their third year quarterback. But he's not a
great quarterback yet. And I don't think anybody should expect
him to be.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, Kurt Warner's with us, two-time MVP. And, Kurt, you
saw the Super Bowl. I know that because you were
there calling the game with Kevin. And you saw what
Drake May did for three quarters against the Seahawks defense,
which was nothing. The majority of his numbers came when
the game was pretty much decided. So should we expect
a lot different tonight? You've got a secondary that obviously
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looks different.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Kobe Bryant, Reek Woolen, gone.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Nicky Manwari likely not going to play. Hawks are elevating
some players from the practice squad. Should we expect a
much different performance tonight for Drake May versus McDonald's defense?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, I mean, if you're the Seahawks defense, you better
expect something different. If you get the same thing, great.
But I'm definitely expecting something different. I'm expecting Josh McDaniels
to have better answers. I'm expecting Drake May to be
more calm and poised. in the situations. You know, I
actually went back and watched the game today because I
wanted to get a feel again of, you know, I
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think in my mind, I felt like it was a blowout,
like Seahawks just dominated the entire game. And now they
did dominate on defense, no question. But I thought New
England's defense played really, really well in that game and
made it hard for the Seahawks. I mean, it was
12 to nothing. Going into the fourth quarter. And in
the fourth quarter, they got defensive touchdown. And then they
got another 10 points off of turnover. So, you know,
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it wasn't easy for the Seahawks offense. So if New
England can show up and make some plays and make
some of the adjustments. You know, this could be a
different game, even though I know a lot of people
have the perception, oh, Seahawks are going to win this
because they blew them out in the Super Bowl. I
don't see the game like that after going back and
watching it again. And so, you know, when you watch.
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Drake May and company against this Seahawks defense, the Seahawks
were great up front. You know, they dominated with their
front four for sure. So their offensive line is going
to have to be better. But just if you look
at it from a scheme standpoint, I didn't think that
the Seahawks defense did anything crazy. I mean, they brought
a number of slot blitzes, which to me is like
football 101. I mean, you're bringing the Sam linebacker. It's
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a single guy off the slot. There's easy answers for that.
And New England had no answers for that. Drake didn't
know it was coming, and they didn't have any built-in answers.
And it was just really strange to watch that game
and go, man, this wasn't as complicated as I think
a lot of people made it out to be. They
just didn't have good answers, whether that was a young
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quarterback that wasn't ready for that moment, whether it was
we have to play a little more simplistically with who
we are as a team right now. And so that
played into the hands of the Seahawks. I think it's
going to be tougher for the Seahawks defense this time around.
You talked about some of the guys that will be
missing from what we saw in the Super Bowl. But also,
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you remember they've added Romeo Dobbs. They've added A.J. Brown.
And one of the things that the New England Patriots
struggled with last year, especially in the Super Bowl, was
against man-to-man coverage. They could not get any separation against
this secondary, albeit a really good secondary, they couldn't get
any separation in man-to-man coverage. So you go out and
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get a couple guys that you believe can win one-on-one battles.
So what does that mean for tonight? Again, it's fun
because we don't really know until we get to see it.
So it's all speculation right now. Are the Seahawks better
than they were last year as a Super Bowl champion?
Did some of the losses, the Kenneth Walkers and such,
is that going to affect them on the other side?
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New England, are they the same team we saw in
the Super Bowl, or have they grown? Have they gotten better?
And what does this look like tonight? I'm fascinated. I'm
fascinated by all the off-season questions, all the stuff we've
been talking about for months. Now let's put it out
on the field. Let's put the product out there, and
let's see who these teams are.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, you mentioned K-Dub. He touched it 29 times in
that game you just watched. How about the decision to
let him go to free agency and a decision to
take a running back in the first round by the Seahawks?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah. I will say, I mean, obviously, you know, Kevin
Walker has been really good for this organization when he
was here. And so you hate to see those guys go.
But what I think I understand about, you know, this
offense and the way they want to play, and you
guys saw it last year, is that it wasn't really,
even though Kenneth was a starter, this was kind of
a two-headed monster with Zach. And I know Zach still
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coming back from the injury. But it's like, hey, we're
going to split time with our guys. Whoever's here... we're
going to split time with them. We're going to have
roles for both of them. So do we want to
pay a bunch of money to one guy when we
know that's going to be a part of what we do?
And I believe that's why Kenneth Walker, you know, went
to Kansas City and the Seahawks let him go. And
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they went out and got Price in the first round
to say, hey, we believe Zach's going to be back.
He's going to be one of our featured guys. Price
can be another one of those guys. We saw how
good he was in that kind of one-two punch role
with Notre Dame. And I believe that was just their
perspective is we can't pay everybody. And because of the
running back position and how we want to utilize them,
we're not going to pay Kenneth as much as we
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love him. And it was a big part of us
winning a championship. We're going to go younger. We're going
to go cheaper. And we're going to use that committee
to help us to continue to build and do what
we want to do.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Two-time MVP, Pro Football Hall of Famer, but more than anything,
Kevin Harlan's broadcast partner.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Westwood won. Great stuff, Kurt. Always love catching up. Have
fun tonight. We'll talk down the road, bud. All right,
sounds great. Good luck to you guys. You got it, man.
You as well.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I think that's actually one of three trips that Kurt
will be making to Seattle because I know Kevin's coming
back with the Bears and Cowboys Monday night game later
this year. And his partner, Kevin Harlan, will make his
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All right. Well, a guy who had a rough go
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Starting fresh. Give him a shot to have a clean slate.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Comes out like a turd. We may have to evaluate
this in a couple of weeks. But Jackson, Dick, and
I both.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Believe in you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
We know that you're on new meds this year. And
we know that you're doing everything you can to make
up for the disaster.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That was last season. It's your day. What do you got,
big boy?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
You know what's funny is like two years ago I
was great, and last year I was terrible. I went
back and looked at it. It's because I went away
from overs and unders. I ruled with overs and unders
two years ago, and I went away from it last year.
So we're going to jump back in that pool throughout
most of this year. And I see an over-under right
now that is just popping my eyes out.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Of my head.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Softy, would you say that the UW running back room
is thin?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yes, I would say that. Very much so.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
And after Utah State lost 29-17 to FBS Idaho State,
would you say that Utah State is.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
A bad football team? Yes, I would agree with that.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
So the over-under is 55-and-a-half.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's 55-and-a-half.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
UW's going to win this game. They're going to blow
them out.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But this could.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I don't think that this game goes over 45 points.
I think this is a blowout for UW and a
low scoring Utah state team, 55 and a half teams,
way too high.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
For a horrific team.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
In Utah State and a team that can't run or
doesn't have really any healthy running backs in the dogs.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, I got to tell you, the one thing that
you mentioned there that I think may come into play
is that half point, by the way.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
55 and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
UW may score 55 by themselves in this game because
Jed's pissed.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Jed is pissed about what happened last night.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
They have to be able.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
To score 55 points.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think he's going to bring out all the stops.
I think he's going to come out chucking the ball
in this game. I like it. I like the play.
I haven't looked at every other game. I will on Friday.
Dick will go tomorrow. But I could see a 43-10
type thing for UW, 45-10 type thing for UW.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So what the hell? You know what?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You need some words of encouragement after the year you
had a year ago.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'm going to roll with you. I like it. Let's
do it. F it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Under in the Utah State UW game, and it's what,
55 and a half, Jackson?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We're taking the under.
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Speaker 5 (27:26):
Was, please take the Huskies under. Please take the Huskies.
I swear to God. I haven't looked at many of
the NFL unders, but I saw that Husky under today.
And I actually, what I do, I thought about the Husky.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I was like, what do I think the score.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Is going to be?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I think it's going to be like 40 to 6.
I don't think they score a touchdown against the Huskies offense.
And I don't think the Huskies offense can score 50
plus against anybody right now. with as banged up as
they are. So I like the pick a lot.
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Speaker 3 (29:03):
Mariners won today. That's nice.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
A little fun with audio slash. Hey, did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What's that, Dick? Why don't we start, by the way,
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Former Seahawks tight end Luke Wilson now hosts the Film
Never Lies podcast for TSN Sports. On this week's episode,
John Schneider joining Luke. and shared his reaction to the
Rams trading for Miles Garrett back in June.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
How do you find out about that?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Is that something like you're like everyone else where it
comes through the wire, you got alerts on the phone?
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I think I was like in the cafeteria and it
came across like the screen.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So it's like one of us. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
And I'm like, you got to be kidding me. And literally,
like I had this thought, I was like. Man, I hope, like,
Aaron Donald doesn't get any thoughts now. You know, like,
that guy stays in great shape.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
I think I had, like, McAfee on, and they were, like,
I think they were interviewing Les or something, and their
general manager, Les Snead, and they were like, yeah, I mean,
if you can get him to, yeah, come on our target, man,
that'd be great, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And he's like, yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
I'm like, stop.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I think there's very few teams in the NFL that
go into the season saying, We expect to win a championship,
and if we don't, we're going to be disappointed. The
Rams are one of them. After all the moves they made,
and the Hawks probably won too, right? Because of what
they did a year ago. The Rams are one of them.
They make these moves not to win the conference, not
to make the Super Bowl, but to win a title.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And I don't know. I thought the.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Rams were going to be really, really good even before
they went out and got Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald, man.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So it doesn't change much for me.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Well, the Rams, the last time they went all in
on something, they did win a title.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now... They needed a Jaquiski-Tart dropped interception in the NFC
Championship game in order to advance to the Super Bowl
and win that championship.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
But give them credit, they won. That happens. That happens, right?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Seahawks needed Zach Sharper to pick up a football to
get home field advantage.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I mean, that's the way it works.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I won't get into a big debate on that, but
I still think the Seahawks have an excellent chance to
win that game, even if he doesn't pick up that football.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But that's all right.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
That's a different topic of conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But you do agree, though, that sometimes on the road
to the number one seed and winning the title, you
need breaks.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes. You need breaks. And the Hawks got some breaks.
But you've got to take advantage of them. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
You've got to take advantage of them. So, yeah, the
Rams are the favorites. The Rams should be the favorites.
But I'm with you on the Aaron Donald part of
the equation. It does not move my needle nearly as
much as the Miles Garrett part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
All right. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that, Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Ahead of the NFL season starting, John Gruden made a
video for Barstool Sports reflecting on how dominant Seattle was
throughout the second half of last year and the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
The Seattle Seahawks, the most complete team in football last year,
they won their last 10 games. And they were kicking
people's ass. It was impressive. 14 out of their last 15,
they won by. The point differential in the playoffs, they
won by 18.3 points per game. That's the highest butt
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kicking since the 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We beat the
crap out of people by over 23 points a game.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's great coaching.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, the nine-point loss differential. You guys know what I
mean when I say that, right?
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Total number of points we lost.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Total number of points was nine points, which was the
fewest in Seahawks franchise history. They literally never came that
close ever to being undefeated. winning every single game. And
they could have won every single game they played a
year ago. So, look, if people want to tell me
this was the most dominant Seahawks team of all time,
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I mean, they've never been top three in the NFL
in scoring defense and scoring offense, Dick, until last year.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Never.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And it doesn't feel like it because they don't have
the unbelievable personalities and Hall of Fame caliber talent that
that team had.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I think the defense was slightly.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
worse than the 2013 defense, but I think the offense
more than made up for it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Because that 2013 offense.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
It struggled mightily over a good chunk of that championship season.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Whereas this offense, oh, my God, it was ugly. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I remember looking at Twitter, nothing but Seahawks fans saying,
there's no way we can go to the Super Bowl
with this offense. That was the thought at how bad
that Seahawks offense was middle through that 2013 season. We
never thought that this offense was bad this year.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
All right. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that, Dick?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Let's go to number three today on Callum Cowherd's FS1 show.
He talked about his concerns with the Seahawks' new offense coordinator,
Brian Fleury, being 47 years old instead of a younger
play caller.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Is there one thing, Collin, that could derail the Seahawks?
I had an epiphany last night. I had a revelation.
It woke me up at about 2.30 in the morning.
I could not get back to sleep because I've been
very high on the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, it came to me last night.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Their offensive coordinator has never been an offensive coordinator, Brian Fleury,
and he's 47. Why does the age matter? Because generally,
this is the same in music as it is comedy,
and it is with offensive coaches. Greatness is identified very early.
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Sean McVay, head coach at 30.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Shanahan.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
It's the same in comedy. Outside of Rodney Dangerfield, who
became a star late, Chappelle, Seinfeld, Eddie Murphy at 19
was on Saturday Night Live. Now Mozart wrote his first
symphony at eight. I'm not asking for that. And Tiger
Woods was on the Mike Douglas show when he was three.
I'm not asking for that.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
So when he was 34, he was the quality control
coach of the Buffalo Bills. I understand Coward's point that
if this guy is such a great play caller, why
wasn't he found earlier in his career? There's no doubt
that that could be a factor, that there's reasons why
he was passed over for an OC job or play
calling duties earlier in his career. But there's also the
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chance that people just missed on him. And look, I mean,
I don't want to make any call right now on
Brian Fleury. I've never seen the guy call the game
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Nobody has.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And we're going to find out tonight. Why did so
many people pass on Kurt Cignetti? Why did it take
Cignetti so damn long to land an FBS job? And
he finally got one with Indiana. Sometimes people just miss.
It's also possible that Brian Fleury is going to be
a turd for this football team. I think we have
to sit here right now, Dick, and accept the fact
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that anything is possible because we know nothing about him.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
It means a little more that Coward said it because
he has been so pro Seahawks all summer long. So
that speaks to me more. than his dude McIntyre that
sits with him.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
That is always anti-Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So it wouldn't speak to me if he wants to
find a reason to say that the Seahawks aren't going
to be good this year. But for Colin to say it,
it's interesting. I think he does raise a good point.
If Fleury's so good... Why wasn't he a coordinator at 36, 37,
38 years of age? Now, I don't think we lost
a ton in Clint Kubiak. I think we lost a
good offensive coordinator. I don't think we lost a great
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offensive coordinator. So as long as Brian Fleury can be
somewhere from average to good, then we're not going to
take that much of a step back.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I just think that you need to be better in
the red zone, first of all.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You need to avoid the turnovers. They had those two
games with the Cardinals and Rams where Darnold was awful.
You know, don't do that anymore. But, again, this is
just so different now than what it was a year ago.
Really the key to this whole thing in a lot
of ways probably is Price. You know, if he can
run the ball, then they'll be fine. If he can't
run the ball, then they're going to be in big trouble.
Because there's nobody else on this roster right now that
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can do anything.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
We're going to break. Hugh Millen going to join us
next on 93.3 KJRFM.
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're all getting ready for the Seahawks and Patriots coming
up at 520 tonight. We got Kurt Warner joining us
on the show. That's Kurt with a K, by the way.
How many people in the audience, though, need to have
that designation.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You think?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Not nearly as many as 10 or 15 years old.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I think you're right, unfortunately. Kurt with a K, not
Kurt with a C. Let's hope that Jadarian Price plays
like Kurt with a C when he did as a
rookie back 43 years ago in 1983 when he ran
for almost 1,500 yards and was phenomenal for the Hawks.
But Kurt with a K, two-time NFL MVP, Pro Football
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Hall of Famer, will join us from the booth at
Lumen Field for Westwood 1 at 320 and then his
broadcast partner, Let's face it, Kurt's been carrying this guy
for years. Kevin Harlan is back today, courtesy of the
Emerald Queen Casino. He'll join us at 5 o'clock tonight
from the booth right before kickoff. Neil Kosla had a
chance to go over to Lumen today, guys, and talk
with Neil, one-third of the Kosla family that was represented today.
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at the table, at the dais, at the podium. Nehru, Benode,
and Neal were all out there today, and it was interesting.
I mean, I walked away feeling good about it, right?
I walked away thinking these are genuine, humble, legitimate people
that are saying all the right things.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Obviously, the proof will be in the pudding.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
As the years go by, but I think in the end,
what you wanted to hear from a guy like Neil
and a guy like Vinod and a gal like Nehru
is that, hey, we are smart enough to know what
we don't know, okay? And Vinod made it crystal clear.
We're going to let the experts be the experts. We're
going to rely on management to guide us and tell
us what to do.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Neil, I caught up with him.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We're going to hear the conversation coming up at 4.30 today.
Basically said, look, I don't know anything about drafting safeties
or evaluating offensive linemen. I need to learn from McDonald
and Schneider what's going on. Let them teach me what's
going on. So I think they won the press conference, right?
Will they win like Paul Allen and Jody Allen did?
We'll find out. I mean, there was some luck involved
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in that, obviously, but if they can take what those
two did as a blueprint, as a guideline, Dick, and
run with it. The feeling I got today walking out
of that press conference is that this franchise is going
to be just fine.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, I would agree with you. I listened to the
whole thing. It was interesting. I thought there was a
leading question asked to Vinod.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Which one?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
When they talked about, you know, what is this franchise
going to stand for? It was almost like he wanted
the question, whoever was asking the question wanted to say, hey,
we're going to stand for values and principles and all
that sort of stuff. And.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think Vinod was going to go down that road,
and first.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
He said, let me be perfectly clear. Our first priority
is winning. And I thought that was really cool because
we've already talked about other franchises in this town that
don't necessarily prioritize winning over everything else. He said our
first priority is winning. And then he talked about the
strong values and getting the right players in here and everything.
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But I thought Neil was incredibly comfortable.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
For a young.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Guy like that, I thought he was very uncomfortable in
front of the press.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, he's been working with the Niners since he was
18 years old. So he's been around this before, right?
He's been around the atmosphere. He's been around the game.
He's been around the business side. So he's only 33.
He's a young guy. And I told this to Egan
and Crosstalk, and I'll tell it to both you guys,
that I got the sense throughout this whole process that
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at some point, Neil Kosla was going to take this
thing over, and it would be his show.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I mean, you know, just by default.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, you know, he's got two aging parents and
he's 33. So it does make sense that at some
point in time it's going to be his deal. And
I feel even more comfortable saying that today. This is
going to be his deal. He'll be the guy. He'll
be the chairman. He'll be the CEO. whatever they want
to call that thing. So I think Neil Kozla is
a guy that we absolutely have got to get to know. But,
you know, just in the meantime, Dick, look, there's no
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need to do anything. Everything's gravy, right? You know, just
let these guys be who they are. Let this thing
cycle through. Let the contracts that they're dealing with right
now cycle through. Be there when Byron Murphy needs to
be re-signed. Be there when Sam Darnold needs to be re-signed.
We're going to get some signs, and there's some significant
moments that will.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Come up in the very near future.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Where we will start to get an idea of what
the Koestler family is all about. And then the big ones, obviously,
when Schneider needs to be replaced, whenever that is, McDonald,
whenever that is, when they do need to add 100
suites to the stadium, whenever that is, we'll find out more.
But I think he said it a couple times, and it.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Was almost like a cliche, but I think it's very important.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
This is an unbelievable time for that family to be
taking over this franchise. Because they have a GM that's
going nowhere. They got a coach that's going nowhere. They
seemingly have a quarterback that's going nowhere, right? They have
some hotshot players at quarterback and wide receiver that were
just signed to brand new contracts that were going over,
or excuse me, going nowhere. This is a great time
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for them to just take this thing over and just
build up some goodwill, build up some equity with the community,
and almost just jump on the train. Let this thing
roll for four or five more years before you really
got to get involved and make some hard decisions.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Did you think that I agree with you on Neil
taking over at some point?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Did you get the feeling that he's going to take.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Over like right away?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Like he'll be the primary decision maker right away?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, I think it's going to be a family thing
at first with all of them, everybody getting involved. But
I think Neil is going to be there. and eventually
he will be that guy. I don't know actually when
D-Day happens, Dick, that's what you're asking, when Decision Day comes,
who will make the final call. I do think it's
going to be kind of a community thing with the
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family and with John Schneider. and Chuck Arnold and Mike McDonald.
That's the feeling I got. I mean, look, none of
us really know, right, until this actually happens. But I
feel good, and I feel great about this team's chances
in 2026. I think, again, we talked about this with
Chuck on the roundtable this morning. Outside of the Patriots,
excuse me, the Chiefs, I think in.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
19, and the Buccaneers, I think in 20.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
In the last 15, 20 years, nobody else has brought
back a bigger percentage of their snaps than these guys have, right?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So, look, this is primed. This is as good a shot.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
As we've ever had maybe at least since 14 for
sure obviously yeah to do this again and I think
the longer this goes the more the hype train gets
out of control the more people will be talking about
things like.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Well I'm more comfortable saying they're a Super Bowl team
right now than I was a year ago today that's
for sure and they ended up winning the Super Bowl
and as I mentioned the other day I'm not as
comfortable saying they're a Super Bowl championship team as I
was 12 years ago when 2014 started. I really thought
that team was going to repeat, and they came within
one play of repeating.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, we have more snaps back from that team.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, we have more snaps back.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
We don't have the star power, but we do have
more snaps back.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
From that team.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
This team, I think, you know, I don't know if
the rest of the NFL is.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
at the Seahawks level like it was in 2014.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I do think the Rams are at the Seahawks level, clearly.
I don't know if there's any other team that I
would say is at the Seahawks level, but the problem
is the Rams are in your division. So if you
don't win it, you're the five seed. That's the issue
with the Rams being in your division.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
All right, let's do this. Kurt Warner, we'll ask him
about all that and a lot more. Kurt with a K,
one half of the Westwood One broadcast crew. Kurt Warner,
two-time NFL MVP, will join next.
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Speaker 3 (07:58):
All right, we are back. We are rolling, baby.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Getting ready for kickoff tonight, 520 Seahawks and Patriots. Kevin
Harlan will make his debut for 2026. Coming up at
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hear from Neil Kosla from the new Seahawk owners, the
Kosla family, coming up about 4.30 this afternoon. But joining
us right now on the radio show, he actually is
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in town with Westwood One to call this game for
national radio. Two-time MVP and our friend Kurt Warner joining
us right now on the radio program.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Kurt, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you
guys doing? Good.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Good to have you back on the radio show, man,
as we kick off the NFL season.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I mean, this means good things for the Seahawks when
you and Kevin are here for week one because that
means the Hawks are winners, baby.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Coming off their championship a year ago. And here we
go on a Wednesday night. You ready? I am definitely ready.
I have no favorites in this one. So I don't
want any of the Patriots fans getting mad at me
at the Seahawks win saying it's on to me and Kevin.
But what a great way to start the season. I mean,
it's the way we ended the season. Obviously, for the
Seahawks fans, it was a. A great finish in Super
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Bowl 60, and I know everybody expects the same type
of result this time out, but a lot of questions.
You know, some new additions for the Patriots, some questions
for the Seahawks, and so will it look the same?
I'm not so sure, but I can't wait for kickoff
and to get this season going.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, let's start there, right, because you're looking to do
something that only guys like Elway Mahomes and Brady have done.
in the last 30 years, and that's repeat as Super
Bowl champions. This is one of the more difficult things
to do in sports, right, guys, is to win consecutive Lombardis.
So maybe talk a bit for a minute, Kurt. You
know this roster. You know the changes that they've made
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to this football team. Why or why not will the
Seahawks repeat as champions?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, the first thing you have to look at is
that there weren't a bunch of huge losses from the
Super Bowl champion roster a year ago. So I think
just in and of itself, you say to yourself, On paper,
this team is good enough to win a championship. They've
got the pieces. They've got the playmakers. They've got the
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guys on defense that are really some good offensive players,
but their defense carried them last year. Those pieces are
in place, and so that's the reason that you say, hey,
this team has a shot. What you know in winning
a championship, getting to a Super Bowl, is that every
season is different, and there's so much that goes into
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getting to that point. You have to get some breaks.
You have to get lucky. You have to stay healthy
at certain positions. There's just so much that goes into
it that it's– that's why it's so hard to repeat.
That's why you named the few teams that have ever
done it because– It is so hard. You know, then
you have to talk about how short the offseason was
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and and being able to deal with success. You know that, hey,
we just won. And now everybody wants you on the
banquets tour. And, you know, they want to talk about
what happened and why you won it last year and
all those great things. And so it's so easy to,
you know, to lose a little bit of focus or
a little bit of that edge that you had the
year before when you were chasing something that you'd never
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been a part of. And so there's just so much
that goes into it that, yes, pieces are in place.
They are good enough, you know, just if everybody stays
healthy with the guys that they're going to have on
the football field. But there's so much, you know, that
is added to that. I mean, and some of it
goes to, hey, but let's look at the Rams. They
beat the Rams by four points in the championship game.
And everybody believes the Rams got better. And so that's
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the other side of it. Not that the Seahawks got worse,
but are there other teams out there that got better,
that will be healthier than they were last year when
they played the Seahawks? So that's why we play the games.
That's why you get between the lines is that everybody
in this league is good enough to beat everybody. any
given Sunday or Wednesday or Thursday or whatever games we
play this year. And so that's what makes it fun.
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But they're the champs until they're not. And I do
believe that they feel that they've got a roster in
place that can compete for a championship again, and that's
exactly what you want on opening night.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Well, Kurt, rarely do we see a Super Bowl champion
with less buzz than the Hawks. I mean, I know
they're on hard knocks, but they don't get a lot
of buzz even in their own division. As you mentioned,
the Rams are getting more buzz than the Seahawks. So
does that help them materially hold on to that edge
that a lot of Super Bowl champions might lose, like
you indicated?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Possibly. I mean, I was never a guy that looked
for an edge. Like, oh, somebody said something about me. Or, oh,
everybody's talking about the Rams instead of the Seahawks. That
fires me. To me, my edge was I wanted to
be the best I could be every time I stepped
between the lines. And that was the focus, and that
was the goal, and that was the drive. And so
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I didn't need any of the outside noise. I believe
most players are like that, although we've heard, you know,
the Aaron Rodgers and the Tom Brady's and these guys
that always say they have a chip on their shoulder.
So you find anything you can to motivate you, to
keep you hungry, to keep that edge that you want.
But for most guys, it's simply can we go out
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and be the best version of ourself for 60 minutes?
Every time we step on the football field, that's what
it takes to win a championship. Can this team do
it back-to-back years? Can Sam Darnold do it not really
back-to-back-to-back years? I mean, the games that he's won over
two years is unprecedented. Can he do it again? I mean,
it's just sustaining it and consistency is so huge in
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this business at this level. And so, you know, all
those things make it really, really hard to do it
in back-to-back years.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, Kurt Warner's with us, and Kurt, you know, Baker
Mayfield signed a $ 55 million a year extension yesterday, which
says two things to me.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Number one, you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Were born about 30 years too early, number one. And
then number two, Sam Darnold, he has another year like
he had last year.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
He's about to get paid.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Over next offseason but people still seem to kind of
doubt this guy and as you said he's 31 and
7 including the playoffs in his last two years and
he just won a championship there's only four quarterbacks in
the NFL ranked higher than him in the NFL top
100 so what is Sam Darnold what's your what's your
perception what's your take on this guy.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Well, I mean, Sam Darnold is a really good NFL quarterback.
No doubt that he stamped his spot as a starting
quarterback in the National Football League. But I also have
high expectations for that position. And I believe that at
any one time, we've only got five or six guys
that are truly elite. And by elite, I mean a
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guy that... You believe no matter what happens around them,
that they can go out and win games and keep
you competitive with their right arm, throwing the football, carrying
them that way. I think that's the one thing that
Sam has to prove yet. And again, who cares? You know,
at the end of the day, who cares? I'm a
Super Bowl champion. You know, I'm a starting quarterback. And
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as you said, he's going to be a starting quarterback
for a long time because of what he's done these
last couple years. But To me, there's always a next level. And,
you know, you got your Mahomes and you got your
Burroughs and you got your Josh Allens. And those are
the guys that you look at and go, okay, that guy,
every time he goes between the lines and you put
the ball in his hands, you believe that he's going
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to make that play and he's going to be able
to carry you if he's got to throw the ball
45 or 50 times a game. Not everybody can do that.
There's a lot of good quarterbacks in this league that
can win when they're a part of something that's really,
really good. There's other quarterbacks that can win in spite
of what the team around them is all about. And
that to me is just the next tier for a
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guy like a Sam Darnold. I mean, even a guy
like a Baker Mayfield, really good quarterback, starting quarterbacks, you know,
to me. I look at them and go, yeah, they're
better than most guys in the world, but they're not
those other five or six. And that's what you chase
for when you're a quarterback is you want to prove
to people that you can be one of those guys.
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And that to me is really all that Sam has
to convince us of at this point.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Hall of Famer Kurt Warner joining us. And let's talk
about the quarterback on the other side, Kurt. There are
a few quarterbacks in the league, I think, where there's
more disagreement into how good they are than Drake May.
There are believers that think he's a top five quarterback
in the league. There are some that are, eh, he's
kind of middle of the pack. What's your take of
Drake May?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
My take is, first of all, he's going into his
third year. So we don't need to define him yet.
What I love is that here's a guy that played
his first year and showed some really good signs, played
his second year and made a huge jump, was in
the MVP conversation, led his team to a Super Bowl
regardless of what that means and what their competition was
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and blah, blah, blah. He led his team to a
Super Bowl. And so I really like what I've seen
from Drake May here. in his first two years. Do
I believe he's an upper echelon quarterback at this stage? No,
I don't. I believe there's a lot of guys, if
I watch them play down in and down out, their
understanding of the position, how they play the game inside
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the pocket, there's a lot of guys that are better
than Drake May right now, but there's a lot of
guys that should be better than Drake May right now.
He's simply going into his third year. He's met the
expectations that anybody has on a young quarterback. I love that.
I think he's got the demeanor. I think he wants
to be great. He's got all the physical talent that
you want to be one of those special quarterbacks. But
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he's just got to grow. And he's got to have time.
And he's got to get experience. And so I love
where he's at right now. He's right where he should
be or where any team would want their second year
going into their third year quarterback. But he's not a
great quarterback yet. And I don't think anybody should expect
him to be.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, Kurt Warner's with us, two-time MVP. And, Kurt, you
saw the Super Bowl. I know that because you were
there calling the game with Kevin. And you saw what
Drake May did for three quarters against the Seahawks defense,
which was nothing. The majority of his numbers came when
the game was pretty much decided. So should we expect
a lot different tonight? You've got a secondary that obviously
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looks different.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Kobe Bryant, Reek Woolen, gone.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Nicky Manwari likely not going to play. Hawks are elevating
some players from the practice squad. Should we expect a
much different performance tonight for Drake May versus McDonald's defense?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, I mean, if you're the Seahawks defense, you better
expect something different. If you get the same thing, great.
But I'm definitely expecting something different. I'm expecting Josh McDaniels
to have better answers. I'm expecting Drake May to be
more calm and poised. in the situations. You know, I
actually went back and watched the game today because I
wanted to get a feel again of, you know, I
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think in my mind, I felt like it was a blowout,
like Seahawks just dominated the entire game. And now they
did dominate on defense, no question. But I thought New
England's defense played really, really well in that game and
made it hard for the Seahawks. I mean, it was
12 to nothing. Going into the fourth quarter. And in
the fourth quarter, they got defensive touchdown. And then they
got another 10 points off of turnover. So, you know,
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it wasn't easy for the Seahawks offense. So if New
England can show up and make some plays and make
some of the adjustments. You know, this could be a
different game, even though I know a lot of people
have the perception, oh, Seahawks are going to win this
because they blew them out in the Super Bowl. I
don't see the game like that after going back and
watching it again. And so, you know, when you watch.
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Drake May and company against this Seahawks defense, the Seahawks
were great up front. You know, they dominated with their
front four for sure. So their offensive line is going
to have to be better. But just if you look
at it from a scheme standpoint, I didn't think that
the Seahawks defense did anything crazy. I mean, they brought
a number of slot blitzes, which to me is like
football 101. I mean, you're bringing the Sam linebacker. It's
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a single guy off the slot. There's easy answers for that.
And New England had no answers for that. Drake didn't
know it was coming, and they didn't have any built-in answers.
And it was just really strange to watch that game
and go, man, this wasn't as complicated as I think
a lot of people made it out to be. They
just didn't have good answers, whether that was a young
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quarterback that wasn't ready for that moment, whether it was
we have to play a little more simplistically with who
we are as a team right now. And so that
played into the hands of the Seahawks. I think it's
going to be tougher for the Seahawks defense this time around.
You talked about some of the guys that will be
missing from what we saw in the Super Bowl. But also,
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you remember they've added Romeo Dobbs. They've added A.J. Brown.
And one of the things that the New England Patriots
struggled with last year, especially in the Super Bowl, was
against man-to-man coverage. They could not get any separation against
this secondary, albeit a really good secondary, they couldn't get
any separation in man-to-man coverage. So you go out and
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get a couple guys that you believe can win one-on-one battles.
So what does that mean for tonight? Again, it's fun
because we don't really know until we get to see it.
So it's all speculation right now. Are the Seahawks better
than they were last year as a Super Bowl champion?
Did some of the losses, the Kenneth Walkers and such,
is that going to affect them on the other side?
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New England, are they the same team we saw in
the Super Bowl, or have they grown? Have they gotten better?
And what does this look like tonight? I'm fascinated. I'm
fascinated by all the off-season questions, all the stuff we've
been talking about for months. Now let's put it out
on the field. Let's put the product out there, and
let's see who these teams are.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, you mentioned K-Dub. He touched it 29 times in
that game you just watched. How about the decision to
let him go to free agency and a decision to
take a running back in the first round by the Seahawks?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah. I will say, I mean, obviously, you know, Kevin
Walker has been really good for this organization when he
was here. And so you hate to see those guys go.
But what I think I understand about, you know, this
offense and the way they want to play, and you
guys saw it last year, is that it wasn't really,
even though Kenneth was a starter, this was kind of
a two-headed monster with Zach. And I know Zach still
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coming back from the injury. But it's like, hey, we're
going to split time with our guys. Whoever's here... we're
going to split time with them. We're going to have
roles for both of them. So do we want to
pay a bunch of money to one guy when we
know that's going to be a part of what we do?
And I believe that's why Kenneth Walker, you know, went
to Kansas City and the Seahawks let him go. And
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they went out and got Price in the first round
to say, hey, we believe Zach's going to be back.
He's going to be one of our featured guys. Price
can be another one of those guys. We saw how
good he was in that kind of one-two punch role
with Notre Dame. And I believe that was just their
perspective is we can't pay everybody. And because of the
running back position and how we want to utilize them,
we're not going to pay Kenneth as much as we
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love him. And it was a big part of us
winning a championship. We're going to go younger. We're going
to go cheaper. And we're going to use that committee
to help us to continue to build and do what
we want to do.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Two-time MVP, Pro Football Hall of Famer, but more than anything,
Kevin Harlan's broadcast partner.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Westwood won. Great stuff, Kurt. Always love catching up. Have
fun tonight. We'll talk down the road, bud. All right,
sounds great. Good luck to you guys. You got it, man.
You as well.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I think that's actually one of three trips that Kurt
will be making to Seattle because I know Kevin's coming
back with the Bears and Cowboys Monday night game later
this year. And his partner, Kevin Harlan, will make his
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At 5 p.m. Factor Fiction. Let's get to it. It's Wednesday.
It's Jackson Day. Let's go. We're set to go. Glad
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All right. Well, a guy who had a rough go
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Starting fresh. Give him a shot to have a clean slate.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Comes out like a turd. We may have to evaluate
this in a couple of weeks. But Jackson, Dick, and
I both.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Believe in you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
We know that you're on new meds this year. And
we know that you're doing everything you can to make
up for the disaster.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That was last season. It's your day. What do you got,
big boy?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
You know what's funny is like two years ago I
was great, and last year I was terrible. I went
back and looked at it. It's because I went away
from overs and unders. I ruled with overs and unders
two years ago, and I went away from it last year.
So we're going to jump back in that pool throughout
most of this year. And I see an over-under right
now that is just popping my eyes out.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Of my head.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Softy, would you say that the UW running back room
is thin?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yes, I would say that. Very much so.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
And after Utah State lost 29-17 to FBS Idaho State,
would you say that Utah State is.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
A bad football team? Yes, I would agree with that.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
So the over-under is 55-and-a-half.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's 55-and-a-half.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
UW's going to win this game. They're going to blow
them out.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But this could.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I don't think that this game goes over 45 points.
I think this is a blowout for UW and a
low scoring Utah state team, 55 and a half teams,
way too high.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
For a horrific team.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
In Utah State and a team that can't run or
doesn't have really any healthy running backs in the dogs.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, I got to tell you, the one thing that
you mentioned there that I think may come into play
is that half point, by the way.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
55 and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
UW may score 55 by themselves in this game because
Jed's pissed.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Jed is pissed about what happened last night.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
They have to be able.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
To score 55 points.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think he's going to bring out all the stops.
I think he's going to come out chucking the ball
in this game. I like it. I like the play.
I haven't looked at every other game. I will on Friday.
Dick will go tomorrow. But I could see a 43-10
type thing for UW, 45-10 type thing for UW.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So what the hell? You know what?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You need some words of encouragement after the year you
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I'm going to roll with you. I like it. Let's
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Speaker 2 (27:12):
Under in the Utah State UW game, and it's what,
55 and a half, Jackson?
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Is that right?
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We're taking the under.
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Was, please take the Huskies under. Please take the Huskies.
I swear to God. I haven't looked at many of
the NFL unders, but I saw that Husky under today.
And I actually, what I do, I thought about the Husky.
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I was like, what do I think the score.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Is going to be?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I think it's going to be like 40 to 6.
I don't think they score a touchdown against the Huskies offense.
And I don't think the Huskies offense can score 50
plus against anybody right now. with as banged up as
they are. So I like the pick a lot.
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Speaker 3 (29:03):
Mariners won today. That's nice.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
A little fun with audio slash. Hey, did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What's that, Dick? Why don't we start, by the way,
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Former Seahawks tight end Luke Wilson now hosts the Film
Never Lies podcast for TSN Sports. On this week's episode,
John Schneider joining Luke. and shared his reaction to the
Rams trading for Miles Garrett back in June.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
How do you find out about that?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Is that something like you're like everyone else where it
comes through the wire, you got alerts on the phone?
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I think I was like in the cafeteria and it
came across like the screen.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So it's like one of us. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
And I'm like, you got to be kidding me. And literally,
like I had this thought, I was like. Man, I hope, like,
Aaron Donald doesn't get any thoughts now. You know, like,
that guy stays in great shape.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
I think I had, like, McAfee on, and they were, like,
I think they were interviewing Les or something, and their
general manager, Les Snead, and they were like, yeah, I mean,
if you can get him to, yeah, come on our target, man,
that'd be great, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And he's like, yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
I'm like, stop.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I think there's very few teams in the NFL that
go into the season saying, We expect to win a championship,
and if we don't, we're going to be disappointed. The
Rams are one of them. After all the moves they made,
and the Hawks probably won too, right? Because of what
they did a year ago. The Rams are one of them.
They make these moves not to win the conference, not
to make the Super Bowl, but to win a title.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And I don't know. I thought the.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Rams were going to be really, really good even before
they went out and got Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald, man.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So it doesn't change much for me.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Well, the Rams, the last time they went all in
on something, they did win a title.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now... They needed a Jaquiski-Tart dropped interception in the NFC
Championship game in order to advance to the Super Bowl
and win that championship.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
But give them credit, they won. That happens. That happens, right?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Seahawks needed Zach Sharper to pick up a football to
get home field advantage.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I mean, that's the way it works.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I won't get into a big debate on that, but
I still think the Seahawks have an excellent chance to
win that game, even if he doesn't pick up that football.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But that's all right.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
That's a different topic of conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But you do agree, though, that sometimes on the road
to the number one seed and winning the title, you
need breaks.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes. You need breaks. And the Hawks got some breaks.
But you've got to take advantage of them. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
You've got to take advantage of them. So, yeah, the
Rams are the favorites. The Rams should be the favorites.
But I'm with you on the Aaron Donald part of
the equation. It does not move my needle nearly as
much as the Miles Garrett part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
All right. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that, Dick?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Ahead of the NFL season starting, John Gruden made a
video for Barstool Sports reflecting on how dominant Seattle was
throughout the second half of last year and the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
The Seattle Seahawks, the most complete team in football last year,
they won their last 10 games. And they were kicking
people's ass. It was impressive. 14 out of their last 15,
they won by. The point differential in the playoffs, they
won by 18.3 points per game. That's the highest butt
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kicking since the 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We beat the
crap out of people by over 23 points a game.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's great coaching.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, the nine-point loss differential. You guys know what I
mean when I say that, right?
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Total number of points we lost.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Total number of points was nine points, which was the
fewest in Seahawks franchise history. They literally never came that
close ever to being undefeated. winning every single game. And
they could have won every single game they played a
year ago. So, look, if people want to tell me
this was the most dominant Seahawks team of all time,
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I mean, they've never been top three in the NFL
in scoring defense and scoring offense, Dick, until last year.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Never.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And it doesn't feel like it because they don't have
the unbelievable personalities and Hall of Fame caliber talent that
that team had.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I think the defense was slightly.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
worse than the 2013 defense, but I think the offense
more than made up for it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Because that 2013 offense.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
It struggled mightily over a good chunk of that championship season.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Whereas this offense, oh, my God, it was ugly. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I remember looking at Twitter, nothing but Seahawks fans saying,
there's no way we can go to the Super Bowl
with this offense. That was the thought at how bad
that Seahawks offense was middle through that 2013 season. We
never thought that this offense was bad this year.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
All right. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that, Dick?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Let's go to number three today on Callum Cowherd's FS1 show.
He talked about his concerns with the Seahawks' new offense coordinator,
Brian Fleury, being 47 years old instead of a younger
play caller.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Is there one thing, Collin, that could derail the Seahawks?
I had an epiphany last night. I had a revelation.
It woke me up at about 2.30 in the morning.
I could not get back to sleep because I've been
very high on the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, it came to me last night.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Their offensive coordinator has never been an offensive coordinator, Brian Fleury,
and he's 47. Why does the age matter? Because generally,
this is the same in music as it is comedy,
and it is with offensive coaches. Greatness is identified very early.
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Sean McVay, head coach at 30.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Shanahan.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
It's the same in comedy. Outside of Rodney Dangerfield, who
became a star late, Chappelle, Seinfeld, Eddie Murphy at 19
was on Saturday Night Live. Now Mozart wrote his first
symphony at eight. I'm not asking for that. And Tiger
Woods was on the Mike Douglas show when he was three.
I'm not asking for that.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
So when he was 34, he was the quality control
coach of the Buffalo Bills. I understand Coward's point that
if this guy is such a great play caller, why
wasn't he found earlier in his career? There's no doubt
that that could be a factor, that there's reasons why
he was passed over for an OC job or play
calling duties earlier in his career. But there's also the
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chance that people just missed on him. And look, I mean,
I don't want to make any call right now on
Brian Fleury. I've never seen the guy call the game
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Nobody has.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And we're going to find out tonight. Why did so
many people pass on Kurt Cignetti? Why did it take
Cignetti so damn long to land an FBS job? And
he finally got one with Indiana. Sometimes people just miss.
It's also possible that Brian Fleury is going to be
a turd for this football team. I think we have
to sit here right now, Dick, and accept the fact
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that anything is possible because we know nothing about him.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
It means a little more that Coward said it because
he has been so pro Seahawks all summer long. So
that speaks to me more. than his dude McIntyre that
sits with him.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
That is always anti-Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So it wouldn't speak to me if he wants to
find a reason to say that the Seahawks aren't going
to be good this year. But for Colin to say it,
it's interesting. I think he does raise a good point.
If Fleury's so good... Why wasn't he a coordinator at 36, 37,
38 years of age? Now, I don't think we lost
a ton in Clint Kubiak. I think we lost a
good offensive coordinator. I don't think we lost a great
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offensive coordinator. So as long as Brian Fleury can be
somewhere from average to good, then we're not going to
take that much of a step back.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I just think that you need to be better in
the red zone, first of all.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You need to avoid the turnovers. They had those two
games with the Cardinals and Rams where Darnold was awful.
You know, don't do that anymore. But, again, this is
just so different now than what it was a year ago.
Really the key to this whole thing in a lot
of ways probably is Price. You know, if he can
run the ball, then they'll be fine. If he can't
run the ball, then they're going to be in big trouble.
Because there's nobody else on this roster right now that
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can do anything.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
We're going to break. Hugh Millen going to join us
next on 93.3 KJRFM.
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