January 7, 2026 • 39 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss last night’s breaking news of Demond Williams transferring from UW, talk to Mike Florio about the latest in the NFL and playoffs ahead, then chat with Rick Neuheisel about the entire Demond situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The big story obviously to Mont Williams last night, deciding
that he didn't want to be a Husky anymore. He's
going to put his name on the transfer portal with
a no contact designation and everything. Everybody came unglued last night.
Social media, man everything, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, the text line here.
(00:23):
We were off the air and the text line was
blowing up last night with people sharing their thoughts on
DeMont Williams. And I will just say this that I
am not as livid as I was last night because
time heels all wounds. I was hot last night, as
you guys know, you know that you were sitting right
next to me. I'm still really, really disgusted with Demond.
I'm disgusted with his family. I'm disgusted with his representation.
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I'm disgusted with college football. I'm disgusted with the entity.
I'm disgusted with the lack of structure, the lack of oversight.
All of it discussed me. And I don't look to something,
by the way Dick to be disgusted. I look to
something to either be satisfied or inspired, And right now
there's nothing about college football personally for me that is
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making me inspired nor satisfied. So when people say things
like I'm done, I'm out. First of all, you never
know how long that lasts. Of course, I got a
text from a buddy this morning who said he canceled
the season tickets after twenty five years. Donor is talking
to me about we're not giving a cent to the program.
Why should we give money to a program when all
we're going to do is train a guy to be
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a good college football player, and then somebody else gets
to bear the fruit of my labor as an investor.
So I understand all of it. I really do. I'm
just saying this right now for Washington Football and for
any other college football team that I would ever, potentially
ever ever ever root for. And I said this to
you last night, and I'll say it again this evening.
(01:53):
I am looking at every year now as a one
year entity. One year deal, all right, when September starts,
got my loyalty for four months until the season's over,
and then when the year's done, you got to show
that you deserve it again.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Coaches and players included, I am done, Dick and Jackson
with looking ahead to next year, I'm done relying on
anybody to come back. I am done talking about the future.
The only thing that matters to me, Dick Fane and
college football is today.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I could not have said it any better. I one
hundred percent agree with you. I think that's the only
way that college football fans can look at their football
team these days is as a.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
One year at a time entity.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And I'm actually seeing this as an opportunity, an opportunity
not only for Washington to go out there and get
a really good quarterback, because there are really, really well
known quarterbacks that would be available for Washington. We've talked
about the Levitts Noah Flafidas built boat Prebulas. They're not
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going to have some turred under center in September. I
firmly believe that they are going to come up with
a I'm not going to say right here that it's
gonna be as good or better than Damon Williams, but
they're gonna come up with a reasonable replacement for Damon Williams.
And I'm still very optimistic about this football team next year.
I'm also looking at as an opportunity for college football
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in general. Sometimes you need a spark. Remember the pass
interference that wasn't called in the Rams Saints game, right,
and that all that was the spark, like, oh my god,
we got to review pass interference. Now, it didn't last forever, Dick.
But yes, how about Phil Luckett?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Phil Luckett? Are you kidding? Absolutely? Seahawks Jets. Yes, that
inspired instant Rea can replay. You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So sometimes you need a situation that is so ridiculous
that everybody gets together and says, now, wait a second,
this dude had a freaking contract he signed for. This
is unlike anything we've ever seen before. We have to
get together and do something about it. And maybe Demon
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Williams God b less you is the spark to get
this start.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean, I'm skeptical because I'm not sure if college
football really gives a damn. To be honest with you,
I'm not even sure if the SEC really gives a damn. Right,
I mean, why would they want to cut off an
avenue to make their own football teams better? Because you
just mentioned something that's interesting to me and you said
the word available. There's a lot of quarterbacks available. Well,
apparently everybody's available.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, I would not go, I've got to imagine there's
a lot of quarterbacks that have not signed their deals
for twenty twenty such all those are.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Available, I would not because are the guys that have signed.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Their r I as Washington, I would not go poach
a player that has already signed their nil.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Because why not because you're the moral ground.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Well, because you're you're trying to get litigation from the
quarterback and the school that's going to steal your quarterback.
You would be put under the same scrutiny in litigation
if you were to do the same Who cares?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Who gives a damn? Why do I give a damn?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So honestly, I mean, guys, I mean if this is
this is the conversation that we have had for many, many,
many many on this radio station about the non conference schedule. Well,
if the SEC is playing cupcakes for three four weeks
a year, how come I'm playing Ohio State and Michigan
and Nebraska in September? Why should I be the freaking
guinea pig. Because it's the right thing to do, and
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it might be the right thing to do to back
off with somebody else's quarterback, Dick, but I am sick.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And effing tired of doing the right thing. I'm tired
of it, man.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And if they if every other program in college football
is not going to play by the same rules, why
should I?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Why should I be the guinea pig?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Why should I be the guy sitting back when the
smoke clear is saying I did the right thing.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Meantime, my team is five and seven and I'm out
of a job. Who gives a crap.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
There are no standards in college football left, there are
no morals in college football, and there are no principles
in college football. So maybe the more and more and
more and more and more this happens, the better. The
odds are that what you talked about actually takes place.
So what I want Jedfish to do is twofold Number one.
I want Jetfish to make demand Williams and his camp
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and his parents and his family hold to the deal
that he signed, and if he doesn't, I want to
soothe their asses into oblivion.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I want compensation.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I want to make his life in the meantime miserable
whatever he had planned. I want to blow that whole
thing up. I don't want to make sure that Washington
gets what they're owed. Number two I want Jedfish to
do whatever he needs to do. I don't care how
to make this football team better and the story. I'm
done being the good guy. I'm done being the nice guy.
Every college football fan should feel the same. You're done
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being the nice guy. You're done being the good guy.
If there's gonna be no governance, there's gonna be no
oversight whatsoever, go out and make your football team better.
And who cares what people think. That's where I'm coming
from right now. So listen, we're gonna talk a lot
about this tick today. Rick Neuheizel will join us. Next segment,
Petros at four, Let's get to Mike Florio right now.
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Speaker 3 (07:15):
Now with Mike Florio. He's Softian Dick all right here.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He is our friend from Pro Football Talk dot Com.
The NFL on NBCPFT Live, the Heavyweight Champion baby of
the NFL Media Press Corps, Our friend Michael Florio, Mike,
how are you pal?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Happy New Year? Butthole?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Happy New Year, butthole to you?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hey, I know we're talking NFL, but you want to
chime in as a guy that covers the sport on
this Demon Williams situation. It's right here, Mike, in our
backyard with the Washington quarterback signed an NIL deal on
Friday and then yesterday announces I don't care, I'm putting
my name in the transfer portal. What do you make
of the current state of college football and this story
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happening out here in Seattle Man.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
College football is the experiencing the chaos it deserves as
a result of decades of exploiting players under this fiction
of the NCAA restricting what the university can legally provide
to players by way of compensation. Think about it, all
of these independent businesses huddled under the NCAA umbrella, and
when it was time to compete for the players who
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were going to make more money for the program, all
the teams had to say was sorry, the NCAA rules
don't let us do it. It was a giant anti
trust violation. It has collapsed onto itself, and everything that
happens in the wake of that is on the people
who created and maintained that system for as long as
they did. The reckoning came way too late, but it came,
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and everything that happens now is a product not only
of that past corruption, but a refusal, a stubborn refusal
by the schools to do what needs to be done,
starting nationwide union with true collective bargaining, which would put
rules in place that would prevent what happened. But they
don't want that. They want Congress to wave a magic
one and give them a pass and give them and
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trust exemption so they can go back to the days
when the players were limited in what they could make.
That's not the answer. The answer is true collective bargaining,
but they don't want that because they don't want to
have to answer to a union. They can't have it
both ways. It is on the schools. The specific cases
may look like it's on the players. The root problem
is on the entire industry, the individual schools and the NCAA.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Mike the big news in the NFL the last forty
eight hours or so, the eighteen year run in Baltimore's
over for John Harbaugh. There are reports that he lost
the locker room. Is that your understanding? As well as
far as why he was fired.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I've seen mixed indication. Then. Look, after a controversial decision
like this is made, there will be individuals with motivations
to utilize the media to put out narratives that may
or may not be true. The bottom line is, after
eighteen years, it was time for both sides to move on.
We saw this coming. All the things that were said
about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh in the aftermath of the
embarrassing lost in December at home to the Bills twenty
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six to seven, those things all applied with equal force
to what was going on in Baltimore. It's just time.
After this long, it's time, and that's what under stived.
Bashadi decided that field goal that was missed, and I
was explaining this to my wife last night because she
was like, then this field goal got him fired? Well, yes,
but no it did because if he'd made it, they'd
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be getting ready for a game next Monday night, so
they wouldn't have fired him. So yeah, but it was
deeper than that, and some people think that it was
ultimately a choice between John Harbor and Lamar Jackson. I
have a feeling that Lamar Jackson maybe next, depending upon
who they hired to be the coach, what the coach wants,
and what Lamar wants. Based upon the coach they hire,
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there could be an effort to trade him. Not that
they'll shop him. I think they want to be coy
about it to get the best possible trade return. But
I'm not ruling out just because Harball's gone.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm not rolling out that Lamar Jackson's than How about
Pete Carroll after a year getting the whack with Vegas?
His fault, Spike Tech's fault, previous regime's fault.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
What do you make of that deal?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Everybody's fault and Pete's sin in all of this was
allowing his relentless optimism to make him think the Raiders
were better than they were. The moves they made, specifically
bringing in quarterbacks. You know, Smith thinking about Matthew Stafford
not wanting to develop a young quarterback. Drafting Ashton Jenny
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with a top ten pick, that's an icing on the
cake move. You have to have the cake before you
go get the icing. They didn't have the cake. They
don't have enough talent. They misevaluated what their roster was,
and it's on Pete Carroll for not recognizing it. It's
on John'spytech for making the moves that were made to
try to make the team better. And the one guy
who has escaped scrutiny so far for most is Tom Brady.
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He's an owner of the team. He was brought in
at a reduced rate by owner Mark Davis to stay
the football operation to fill the void that was created
when John Bruden ultimately left under circumstances that are well
documented in in some ways disputed, but Brady is the
right hand man and now now Brady's front and center.
The statement they issued on Monday regarding the termination if
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Pete Carroll said that John Spytech, in close collaboration with
Tom Brady, will lead the football operation. So Brady got
to decide whether he's going to be all in or
all out. I don't like this halfway absentee landlord. I
think the people who show up and put in the
work every day in any business, they resent nothing more
than someone who is just doing drive by telling them
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what they're doing wrong. To know what's happening, you have
to be there, and tom Brady's not going to do
that because he's not given up his gig with Fox,
He's not given up all the other stuff he does.
It generates revenue. He tries to make enough money that
he can own a team of his own at some point,
which I think is the play. I don't like it,
and I know and people say, oh, you hate tom
Brady's Like, no, everybody else is blind to it because
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they love tom Brady. Let's apply the same standard to
him that would apply to anyone else who's trying to
do this halfway ownership of a team, running of a
team not fully committed. Matt Ryan, if he gets these
Falcons job as president of football Operations, he's going to
be all in. He's going to be there every day.
That's the only way to do a job like that.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Would Tom Brady have the guts to hire somebody that
currently has a lawsuit going against the NFL in Brian Flores.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
If any team were to hire Brian Flores, it would
be the race. They have a long history of litigation
against the National Football League, and there is a rumor
that's been making the rounds. I heard about it over
the weekend. I haven't heard much talk of it lately,
but you know, this is a time of year where
you don't have to reach high on the tree to
find the apples. The apples are all over the orchard
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and you just got to pick them up and stuff
them into the sack and present them to the consumers
as quickly as possible. As so much news going on
right now. But the rumor is basically Tom Brady a
Patriot waiver reunion where you bring in guys who learned
under Bill Belichick. The guy that Brady learned under as
a player, Brian Flores, is available. His scheme is good
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enough to get him interviews. He's a free agent, so
technically they could hire Brian Daball to be the head
coach and Brian Flores to be the defensive coordinator. But
the way the rumor has gone around, it's Flores as
the head coach and Dave All, the former Giants coach
and former Patriots assistant on several different occasions, would run
the offense. So we'll see how that plays out. I
have someone's day to me today. Tom Brady may be
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crazy enough to try to bring back Josh mcdaaney's right,
because really, if McDaniels didn't have the failed stint with
the Raiders a couple of years ago, he'd be a
top candidate right now for what he's done with Drake May.
So if they're thinking about bringing in a quarterback with
that first overall pick, or maybe they offer the first
overall pick the Ravens for Lamar Jackson, don't be shocked
as something like that happens. But they need somebody to
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coach the quarterback, and Tom Brady has more faith in
Josh McDaniels than anyone else when it comes to running
an offense.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Multiple requests Mike to interview Clint Kubiak. You can remind
me he can interview this week. Is that correct, because
the Hawks of the Bye?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah? And it's a bad situation. And we talk about
this every year. There should be no interviews of current coaches.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
There should be.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
No hiring process at all until the Super Bowl has ended.
It creates a distraction for teams that are trying to
finish the job the right way. And this is a
narrative that comes up every year and the head coaches
of the teams that still have games to play don't
like it because here's the reality. When you're trying to
get a head coaching job. Are you really focused on
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your current job when you go home? And this is
the example that I've heard coaches give. When you go home,
if you're married, does your wife say, hey, how's the
preparation coming for your offensive attack against the upcoming opponent?
Or does the whites say, hey, you.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Know anything about where they're getting at at Atlanta?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Job? What about what about Tennessee? You know, I like
the schools better in Nashville than I do in New York.
Whatever it may be, that becomes the focal point of
the guy's life, and it puts the candidate in a
very difficult situation. They need to change it. I don't
think they ever will. But that said, yeah, he's a
viable candidate. I think it's going to be hard for
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guys who don't have head coaching experience to get hired
in this cycle. I think teams are going to skew
toward guys who have done it before. But it's undeniable
what he's done with Sam Darnold this year and what
he's managed to accomplish with the Seattle offense.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You have the Hawks number one in your power rankings.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
With the caveat you said, if they can avoid the Rams,
they'll get back to the super Bowl. I can read
that one of two ways. I could either say that
you think the Rams will beat the Hawks if they
play the Hawks, or you're just saying the Rams are
the one NFC team that could actually beat the Hawks.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Which are you saying?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I don't see the difference between the two. I think
you don't want a Round three with the Rams. Look
at how the Rams ran the ball and pass the
ball up and down the field in that Thursday Night Classic.
The Rams should have won that game. I don't think
you want the Rams coming back to town. And this
is true of any number one seed who has division
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rivals also in the playoffs, and obviously the Sea Hawks
have too in the forty nine ers in the Rams,
you don't want to play those teams. They are not
intimidated by you, they are not afraid of you, they
are not overwhelmed when they come to your stadium. They
go there every year and they would love nothing more
than to be responsible for ending your magical season. You
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don't want it. When the Rams looked like they were
the number one seed, I said, mean, that's you know,
I don't want to see hawks of the forty nine
ers showing up in Sofi Stadium in January. That's how
the magic run comes to an end. And now the
tables have turned, and you don't want You don't want
the Rams or the forty nine Ers, more so the Rams.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
But you know the forty nine.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Ers, I mean, they man handled it on Saturday Night.
Do we really think that happens the second game in
a row. I don't know if Trent Williams would play
in a rematch in the postseason. I wouldn't rule out
the forty nine Ers pulling off the victory division rival.
You never know what's going to happen in that third game.
So I want neither of those teams coming to the
century length Lumen whatever it's called. Is it Loomen?
Speaker 7 (17:59):
Now?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Can they a name?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
No kingdom? When they come to the Kingdom. I wouldn't
want to see the forty nine ers in the risk.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and we will talk
in a week. Appreciate it, Bud.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Are you impressed that I remembered the Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Very impressed. But you're also old like us, so you
should remember the Kingdom, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well, I won't say what although I've seen some very
salty language on TV today. Maybe the standards are changing,
so maybe I can drop an f bumb if I want.
I don't know. I'm confused by the current. And if
you'll watch this on nbct N in the morning, you
may hear some salty language, but I won't do that
to you because you're a sec regularly.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Well, we appreciate that, all right, man, love you.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
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new Heiseel, de Mine Williams and the portal.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
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from here? Next?
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Speaker 3 (19:29):
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Speaker 4 (19:30):
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Speaker 3 (19:38):
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We will chat about that and wish you luck down
the road and that endeavor for sure.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But dude, the news comes down last night about six o'clock,
Demon Williams putting his name in the transfer portal, shocking
pretty much everybody. This is just four days after he
had signed a NILAN revenue shared deal with Washington Friday.
The next story you tip here in that regard is it, Well,
the star quarterback is helping the coach find new players
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to make the football team better, not that he's leaving
the program. So let's just give you the floor. Your
reaction to last night's news, coach, Well.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
It's troubling if you're a Washington fan. It's certainly troubling
if you're Jed Fish. And with the donation, with the
designation along the entry into the portal is do not contact.
That means that somebody probably has contacted him, and so
this deal could be in the offing, and when it happens,
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we'll wait and see. But given the fact that he's
signed a document that says he's bound to Washington, it
will be an interesting legal challenge and I'm sure that
Washington I think I've read where Washington is already pursuing
their legal strategy as to how to proceed in this deal.
I mean, no one wants a guy who doesn't want
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to be there, but this is so crazy given the
success that the youngsters had with Jedfish as his head coach.
I know, we all know what kind of a wonderful
place Washington is, but what has happened over the last
forty eight hours is the quarterback marketplace has changed drastically
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in terms of what kids are commanding from a revenue standpoint.
The number that's being thrown around at Texas Tech with
their commitment from Brendan Soresby, the kid that was the
quarterback at Cincinnati this last year and previous to that
was at Indiana, is close to six million dollars. And
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at six million dollars, that means Sam Lovett's going to
be able to command a huge amount, whether it be
Miami or LSU. And somehow, some way, whether Demand's agent
did it, or somebody called him said, and I don't
know what his deal is with Washington, but somebody said,
you're about it, said here's what the numbers are. You
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need to reconsider this or the other potential is some
school now realizing And if you're LSU or Miami with
Soresby off the list, you're one of those guys that
says we're going to end up short of a elite quarterback.
And here's the next one on the elite list. Let's
see if he can be persuaded. So, if you're just
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trying to guess what happened, that seems to be to
be the most logical.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Well, Rick, how can he sign a one year deal
and get out of it without any repercussions? I mean,
what type of precedent would that set throughout college football?
I mean, these nil deals would not be worth the
paper they're printed on if Washington doesn't get some sort
of penalty payment.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Here, agreed, agreed. As a matter of fact, Georgia right
now is suing a linebacker who left them after signing
up and then il deal a year ago. I think
they paid thirty thousand to three hundred and some odd
thousand that the deal was that they had agreed to,
and then the kid left for greener past years with
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an emphasis on greener. They that's in litigation right now.
I don't know exactly what the tail of the tape
will be when the you know, those in the world
of jurisprudence look at this stuff. But in contract law,
when there is offer and there is acceptance, and there
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was consideration within the contract that forms a contract, and
usually there are damages when you break the contract, and
the damages in this case would be extreme.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, I was gonna say, don't you have a law degree?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
By the way, I do contract law. That was the
first thing you learned. Offer acceptance, but there has to
be consideration, and I'm sure there was plenty of consideration
involved in the Ban Williams deal with the University of
Wall Well.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean Rick new Heisel with us and Rick Here's
where I'm coming from. Demon Williams will never play it
down again for you, dub Ever, it's it's over, he's gone,
He's he's burned that bridge it's done. The only question
is what does Washington get, you know, on the back end,
as far as a settlement from LSU or whatever team
he ends up going to. And then what does Jedfish
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do on the other side of this? I mean put
yourself in his shoes. You can play by the greasy
rules that have been set up by college football's lack
of governance and go after somebody else's demon Williams if
you want, who's under contract with a different team, or
you can look to the portal and look to guys
like Sam Levitt or maybe you know a Dominic Raiola
or a DJ Lagway.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, the pickens are slims. So what's your move
if you're Jedfish.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Well, if you're of the mind that the bridge is burned,
then you have to go into the portal and you
have to do the best you can. And Jed's been,
you know, very good at finding guy will Rogers. Whether
you know whomever is out there the DJ Lagway thing
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probably will have some intrigue. But I'm telling you again,
this all comes down now to who's got the loot
because the money out there is exorbitant. My son is
now the quarterback coach at Northwestern and they just signed
to aid and Childs and I can't tell you how
much money they get him. I can't tell you, but
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it's incredible what the marketplace is, but it is. It's
one of those things that Jed's going to have to
get in and get in quickly because it's going to
dry up.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Well, I think you're right about getting in quickly, because
don't you think, Rick, that there are a lot of
quarterbacks out there that have not signed deals yet, that
are on teams, but they have not signed nil deals
for twenty point six sec demand a week ago.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Hadn't signed an nil deal with Washington.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
So what do you think the percentagees of the top
thirty quarterbacks in the nation that are actually already locked
up the deals for next year?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
So it's interesting you should ask that because I've been
on the phone with a number of college coaches as
I'm trying to assess who to take in this UFL
draft right because no one has a player, so I've
got to turn in the list of five quarterbacks tomorrow.
So I'm trying to get as much information on these
guys as I can, and in talking to these coaches,
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I'm pulling them away from what they're doing in the
transfer portal, and they're all like, thank god, I get
to talk about something other than money. Yes, thank god
I get to talk about a kid rather than, you know,
having to smile and act as if it's a wonderful
deal that I'm able to give this guy, you know,
bundles of money more than what he's worth, because it's
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just crazy, most of these guys having had experience in
what college athletics have been previous to this time. So
it's it's it's a wild wild West, and the money
is going incredibly. I mean, it's an un sustainable model
what's happening right now. And Sam Levitt and Demon Williams
have got the tiger by the tail right now when
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it comes to what they can command given what the
marketplace actually is right now.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, well there's names I've heard.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I've heard Levitt's name, I've heard Noah Fafiita's name from Arizona.
I've even heard Bo Prabula, the former Penn State Missouri quarterback,
as a potential target for you Dubs. So I don't know,
but if it came down to guys like that, is
there a preference for you Levet over FAFEEDA. For example,
what would be your preference if you had five million
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dollars now to go spend it a quarterback, who would
you spend it on?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Well, Levitt would be high on the list, and Jed's
knowledge of Faffita would be right there next. Those two
guys would put the bill. But I think five million,
as crazy as this sounds, at least for Levitt would
be light not enough. Fafita might be that deal. But yeah,
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I mean it's just craziness. And right now, what do
we It's January sixth seventh, whatever it is today, we
have tell the twelfth or excuse me, tell the sixteenth
for people to get into it. So there's ample time
for those who are still out there that are you know,
accomplished quarterbacks to just still consider this. And again there's
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this market ever growing in coming down to you know,
programs like Miami and LSU or who are counting on
a portal guy they're willing to spend. You can't spend
ninety one million dollars on Lane Kiffin and not.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Go get a quarterback for right, Well, and Rick, just
going back to the question about Demon William's future, I mean,
I was kind of taking it back is the wrong word,
but I when I mentioned the idea that Demand's done
at Washington, you kind of answered that, like, well, okay,
if that's the way you feel, are you telling me
that you can see a scenario after the last twenty
four hours where Demand Williams maybe pulls his name out
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of the portal and comes back to Washington.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I can see a situation where Washington sweetens the deal
and he, as he said, I have to do it's
best for me. Well, if what's best for you is
to stay within a program that you've already been on
and been coached by, and to be able to sustain
that and continue to grow on that, that might be
best for you. Financially. We don't know how far apart
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what the new market is and what Demand got because
everybody keeps these cards so close to the vests. But
until we get some transparency around this, we're going to
end up making villains out of young people, which is
really sad.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Well, isn't also a possibility that Demand going along those
lines of thinking, that Demand either plays at Washington or
he can't play anywhere because Washington will not allow him to.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
I don't know about the the legality of the document signed,
what the document is, is it name, image and likeness?
Is it for pay for play? These are the kind
of things that none of us really know, because it's
a brave new world. We just don't know. And what
kind of what kind of you know, hold or potential
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hold on Demon's career Washington has based on the signature
of the contract that he signed. I don't have any
idea what that looks like. And tell any of us
actually get to see what he signed, then I don't
think any of us can answer that appropriately.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
All right, before you go, who do you like to
play in Miami for the title?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
I think it's going to be Miami, in Indiana Miami.
I think Miami's just they've got to They can create
a pass rush without adding to the pressure. You don't
have to add a fifth guy. They can run the ball,
and they can stop all my running game and keep
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Shambliss from getting his legs involved. Then it's going to
be Miami. And in the other game, shoot, I was
there for the first one and that was Indiana going
to Eugene, and they held him to forty one yards
in the second half up until the last clock ride
when it was a two score game, and that we've
got a better version of Indiana right now based on
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that performance in the Rose Bowl. The confidence level is high.
So I'm going to take Indiana and I'm going to
take Miami.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I love it. That works for me, man, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Rick, great stuff, Thanks for doing this, and we'll talk
down the road, Bud.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Thanks guy.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I look forward to it. Boys.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Thanks be Rick, new isil with us. Lots to discuss.
We'll discuss all of it. Next big day. Demand Williams
and the portal. How about that coming up on ninety
three three KJRFM from.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
The R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now back
to Sofie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies
Cracking and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR film.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right, Petros Babinakas will join us coming up next
time before o'clock the day to have him on. By
the way, Holy moly with this demon Williams story. So
we want some of your reaction, right Jackson four nine,
four to five one for textemennials of four forty five.
We're gonna be off the air a little bit early
tonight for you, dumb and perdudy. I'll just say this,
if we're getting off the ear of five o'clock, the
Husky's better win a game for us.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
All right, go down there and be We have a
we have an agreement on this radio show, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm not sure if it's enforceable, like the Mon Williams
contract with you dubbed by the way, but the agreement
is if you knocks off the in dick on the
air at five o'clock and you play a top five team,
you must win or reimburse us on the radio show.
So we'll find out what happens at five tonight. But
we want your thoughts four nine, four to five to one.
You know, what's your mindset like as a Husky fan?
Who do you blame for all this? I heard the
end today talking about how there's apocrasy, look at it,
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there's always apocrasy and everything, and the was this point
point was that what what what Jed Fish did? The
Jaden Dolaura coaches leaving, coaches grabbing players, blah blah blah.
First of all, they're they're there is some hypocrisy. I'll
admit that in college football number one. Number two. I
do think this is different than a coach leaving Dick
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for another program. And here's why, because there's no salary
cap for coaches in college football.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
There is for players.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's called twenty point five million dollars in revenue share
and whatever finite number of sponsors dogs on leash can
come up with them.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
By the way, if you.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Udub knew that Demon Williams was leaving, maybe they would
have jumped in the portal earlier to grab a quarterback.
Maybe they would have spent money on Jordan Watt, excuse me,
Ad Mohammad or Raydon Vines Bright to keep those guys
in Seattle. That's number one, and then number two. The
timing of this, I think is what really sucks for Washington.
There are quarterbacks out there, and if you're going to
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play it the right way, which is just get guys
in the portal, the pickings are pretty slim compared to
where they would have been maybe a week ago. If
DeMont Williams a week ago wanted to take off before
he signed his NIL deal, then take off and get
the hell out of here.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I wouldn't have been happy about that either.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
By the way, just for the record, but I'm more
pissed off that Washington finds out four days after he
signs his deal and multiple big name quarterbacks that maybe
you Dubb would have wanted a piece of are already
off the board.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Well, I think it's totally different than a coach, because
a coach has got language in his contract saying this
is how much the school is going to get if
I leave this day, if I leave that day, if
I leave this day, it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Right in writing. There caught a buyout right now.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yes, there is nothing like that in a player's contract,
and I think we are going to get to a
point where the player's contracts are going to look very
much like the coach's contracts.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah. Well, look, I mean I'm just this whole thing
just discussed me.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It really does a lot of different angles on this
discuss me. The fact that this happened during Mia Hammond's
memorial last night just irritates the absolute.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hell out of me.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I mean, I cannot believe that Demond Williams would go
out and do something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Do I think it was intentional?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Do I think that demand Williams was sitting in his condo,
thinking hey, there's a memorial for me, I'll put his
tweet out or this IG post out.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, I don't think that. I think he's adult, is
what I think.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think he's a dumb ass kid that did something
really stupid last night with the entire football team in attendance,
with Jed and assistant coaches by the way, guys, and
he decided to make that night about him.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Can we just yeah, we need to establish that really quick,
because I've seen too much BS on social media and
on the text line saying he didn't know who Mia
was and listen, he's a football nine. Like, come on, man,
if you guys really believe that, then to Sofia, you said, Monday,
get your head out of your ass. The entire football
team and coaches were there, demon knew what was happening,
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and screw him for having either he or his representation
putting that out there.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
During it.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
He's getting terrible advice, Dick, and he's getting terrible advice
from his parents. By the way, I don't even know
how much his agent was involved in this story. To
be honest with you, honestly, I would like.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
To believe that there is more good in a kid
than bad in a kid. And I would like to
believe that he had no idea exactly when that was
going to be posted and win that because I don't
think he sat down, wrote it and hit send. All right,
I certainly don't believe that. So I would rather believe
that he wouldn't purposely put that out or have somebody
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purposely put that out during me as fewer.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, there's a difference. And look, I agree with you.
I don't think he said like I said. I don't
think demon said I want to send this post out.
Can we wait until MIA's memorial service to do it.
I don't think he said that. I just think he's
an idiot. That's what I think. I think he's a
dumb kid.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Tone deaf.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That is completely tone deaf. That is totally the right
way to say it, exactly. But no, look, I mean,
you Dub is going to fight this tooth and nail.
There's all these people on social media, a lot of
them in the media, by the way, they don't understand anything.
You Dub is going to enforce the terms of his contract.
How can he come back? Guys?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
They're not enforcing the terms of his contract to get
Demon Williams back in Seattle. They're enforcing the terms of
his contract to be entitled to whatever legal damages they
can sue.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That's what this is now all about. Act He's done.
He's done.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
He's public enemy number one in my opinion, he's finished.
He will never ever step foot at Husky Stadium ever
again as a football player.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I don't want the guy back.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And if he does come back, like Rick new Wesnet
talked about, and by the way, file that under what
you and I talked about yesterday, you never know what's
gonna happen anymore. You can't can't, you can't say no
to any crazy idea. He comes back to Washington, it's
going to be a garbage dump.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Absolute you know what, show every question.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The booze from the audience, from the stands, the criticisms. Man,
now he needs to leave. He burned a bridge and
it's time for him to go.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
No, there's no question about it. I mean, I just
see this ending. Most likely Washington gets paid off and
Demon goes to LSU or where wherever. Right, if that
doesn't happen or this is prolonged, Washington can hold Demon
Williams hostage.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, here's the thing though about that he doesn't need
to be in the transfer poot to go play for
somebody else. There's a kid named Xavier Lucas that transferred
from Wisconsin to Miami and he is playing for the Hurricanes.
And he left with Conson and he left Wisconsin and
never went to the portal and ended up enrolling with
the Hurricanes. And there's a lawsuit that's been pending now
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and it'll be pending for a long time. So this
is what happens. Guys go out and they just break
rules because they know there's no consequence for it. And
this is a seminal moment. You're exactly right, Dick for
college football. And there's a quote in Pete Thamil's article
and I we have to break here. There's a quote
in Pete Thamil's article today where a high ranking INCAA
executive has a simple question that everyone needs to answer.
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Are we going to respect rules and contracts or are
we not? Because if we're not, then the wild wild
West will continue to be wild. It already started with
the Xavier Lucas guy. Demon Williams. He's not going to
jail for this, right he'll take off. He'll go to
LSU Washington SUS LSU. LSU doubles Demon's nil or gives
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them a raise. They settle with UDUB. Some big fat
oil baron from Louisiana just gonna cost LSU twice as
much for de mont Williams.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Right, So check to Washington.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
They get a bag, and the mont Williams takes off
and goes in place for LSU. That's the most that's
likely how this will come down until college football says enough,
we're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Petros joins next on ninety three to three kJ RFM
Where we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The big story obviously to Mont Williams last night, deciding
that he didn't want to be a Husky anymore. He's
going to put his name on the transfer portal with
a no contact designation and everything. Everybody came unglued last night.
Social media, man everything, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, the text line here.
(00:23):
We were off the air and the text line was
blowing up last night with people sharing their thoughts on
DeMont Williams. And I will just say this that I
am not as livid as I was last night because
time heels all wounds. I was hot last night, as
you guys know, you know that you were sitting right
next to me. I'm still really, really disgusted with Demond.
I'm disgusted with his family. I'm disgusted with his representation.
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I'm disgusted with college football. I'm disgusted with the entity.
I'm disgusted with the lack of structure, the lack of oversight.
All of it discussed me. And I don't look to something,
by the way Dick to be disgusted. I look to
something to either be satisfied or inspired, And right now
there's nothing about college football personally for me that is
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making me inspired nor satisfied. So when people say things
like I'm done, I'm out. First of all, you never
know how long that lasts. Of course, I got a
text from a buddy this morning who said he canceled
the season tickets after twenty five years. Donor is talking
to me about we're not giving a cent to the program.
Why should we give money to a program when all
we're going to do is train a guy to be
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a good college football player, and then somebody else gets
to bear the fruit of my labor as an investor.
So I understand all of it. I really do. I'm
just saying this right now for Washington Football and for
any other college football team that I would ever, potentially
ever ever ever root for. And I said this to
you last night, and I'll say it again this evening.
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I am looking at every year now as a one
year entity. One year deal, all right, when September starts,
got my loyalty for four months until the season's over,
and then when the year's done, you got to show
that you deserve it again.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Coaches and players included, I am done, Dick and Jackson
with looking ahead to next year, I'm done relying on
anybody to come back. I am done talking about the future.
The only thing that matters to me, Dick Fane and
college football is today.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I could not have said it any better. I one
hundred percent agree with you. I think that's the only
way that college football fans can look at their football
team these days is as a.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
One year at a time entity.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And I'm actually seeing this as an opportunity, an opportunity
not only for Washington to go out there and get
a really good quarterback, because there are really, really well
known quarterbacks that would be available for Washington. We've talked
about the Levitts Noah Flafidas built boat Prebulas. They're not
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going to have some turred under center in September. I
firmly believe that they are going to come up with
a I'm not going to say right here that it's
gonna be as good or better than Damon Williams, but
they're gonna come up with a reasonable replacement for Damon Williams.
And I'm still very optimistic about this football team next year.
I'm also looking at as an opportunity for college football
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in general. Sometimes you need a spark. Remember the pass
interference that wasn't called in the Rams Saints game, right,
and that all that was the spark, like, oh my god,
we got to review pass interference. Now, it didn't last forever, Dick.
But yes, how about Phil Luckett?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Phil Luckett? Are you kidding? Absolutely? Seahawks Jets. Yes, that
inspired instant Rea can replay. You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So sometimes you need a situation that is so ridiculous
that everybody gets together and says, now, wait a second,
this dude had a freaking contract he signed for. This
is unlike anything we've ever seen before. We have to
get together and do something about it. And maybe Demon
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Williams God b less you is the spark to get
this start.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean, I'm skeptical because I'm not sure if college
football really gives a damn. To be honest with you,
I'm not even sure if the SEC really gives a damn. Right,
I mean, why would they want to cut off an
avenue to make their own football teams better? Because you
just mentioned something that's interesting to me and you said
the word available. There's a lot of quarterbacks available. Well,
apparently everybody's available.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, I would not go, I've got to imagine there's
a lot of quarterbacks that have not signed their deals
for twenty twenty such all those are.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Available, I would not because are the guys that have signed.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Their r I as Washington, I would not go poach
a player that has already signed their nil.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Because why not because you're the moral ground.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Well, because you're you're trying to get litigation from the
quarterback and the school that's going to steal your quarterback.
You would be put under the same scrutiny in litigation
if you were to do the same Who cares?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Who gives a damn? Why do I give a damn?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So honestly, I mean, guys, I mean if this is
this is the conversation that we have had for many, many,
many many on this radio station about the non conference schedule. Well,
if the SEC is playing cupcakes for three four weeks
a year, how come I'm playing Ohio State and Michigan
and Nebraska in September? Why should I be the freaking
guinea pig. Because it's the right thing to do, and
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it might be the right thing to do to back
off with somebody else's quarterback, Dick, but I am sick.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And effing tired of doing the right thing. I'm tired
of it, man.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And if they if every other program in college football
is not going to play by the same rules, why
should I?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Why should I be the guinea pig?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Why should I be the guy sitting back when the
smoke clear is saying I did the right thing.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Meantime, my team is five and seven and I'm out
of a job. Who gives a crap.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
There are no standards in college football left, there are
no morals in college football, and there are no principles
in college football. So maybe the more and more and
more and more and more this happens, the better. The
odds are that what you talked about actually takes place.
So what I want Jedfish to do is twofold Number one.
I want Jetfish to make demand Williams and his camp
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and his parents and his family hold to the deal
that he signed, and if he doesn't, I want to
soothe their asses into oblivion.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I want compensation.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I want to make his life in the meantime miserable
whatever he had planned. I want to blow that whole
thing up. I don't want to make sure that Washington
gets what they're owed. Number two I want Jedfish to
do whatever he needs to do. I don't care how
to make this football team better and the story. I'm
done being the good guy. I'm done being the nice guy.
Every college football fan should feel the same. You're done
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being the nice guy. You're done being the good guy.
If there's gonna be no governance, there's gonna be no
oversight whatsoever, go out and make your football team better.
And who cares what people think. That's where I'm coming
from right now. So listen, we're gonna talk a lot
about this tick today. Rick Neuheizel will join us. Next segment,
Petros at four, Let's get to Mike Florio right now.
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Speaker 3 (07:31):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Happy New Year? Butthole?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Happy New Year, butthole to you?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hey, I know we're talking NFL, but you want to
chime in as a guy that covers the sport on
this Demon Williams situation. It's right here, Mike, in our
backyard with the Washington quarterback signed an NIL deal on
Friday and then yesterday announces I don't care, I'm putting
my name in the transfer portal. What do you make
of the current state of college football and this story
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happening out here in Seattle Man.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
College football is the experiencing the chaos it deserves as
a result of decades of exploiting players under this fiction
of the NCAA restricting what the university can legally provide
to players by way of compensation. Think about it, all
of these independent businesses huddled under the NCAA umbrella, and
when it was time to compete for the players who
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were going to make more money for the program, all
the teams had to say was sorry, the NCAA rules
don't let us do it. It was a giant anti
trust violation. It has collapsed onto itself, and everything that
happens in the wake of that is on the people
who created and maintained that system for as long as
they did. The reckoning came way too late, but it came,
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and everything that happens now is a product not only
of that past corruption, but a refusal, a stubborn refusal
by the schools to do what needs to be done,
starting nationwide union with true collective bargaining, which would put
rules in place that would prevent what happened. But they
don't want that. They want Congress to wave a magic
one and give them a pass and give them and
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trust exemption so they can go back to the days
when the players were limited in what they could make.
That's not the answer. The answer is true collective bargaining,
but they don't want that because they don't want to
have to answer to a union. They can't have it
both ways. It is on the schools. The specific cases
may look like it's on the players. The root problem
is on the entire industry, the individual schools and the NCAA.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Mike the big news in the NFL the last forty
eight hours or so, the eighteen year run in Baltimore's
over for John Harbaugh. There are reports that he lost
the locker room. Is that your understanding? As well as
far as why he was fired.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I've seen mixed indication. Then. Look, after a controversial decision
like this is made, there will be individuals with motivations
to utilize the media to put out narratives that may
or may not be true. The bottom line is, after
eighteen years, it was time for both sides to move on.
We saw this coming. All the things that were said
about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh in the aftermath of the
embarrassing lost in December at home to the Bills twenty
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six to seven, those things all applied with equal force
to what was going on in Baltimore. It's just time.
After this long, it's time, and that's what under stived.
Bashadi decided that field goal that was missed, and I
was explaining this to my wife last night because she
was like, then this field goal got him fired? Well, yes,
but no it did because if he'd made it, they'd
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be getting ready for a game next Monday night, so
they wouldn't have fired him. So yeah, but it was
deeper than that, and some people think that it was
ultimately a choice between John Harbor and Lamar Jackson. I
have a feeling that Lamar Jackson maybe next, depending upon
who they hired to be the coach, what the coach wants,
and what Lamar wants. Based upon the coach they hire,
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there could be an effort to trade him. Not that
they'll shop him. I think they want to be coy
about it to get the best possible trade return. But
I'm not ruling out just because Harball's gone.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm not rolling out that Lamar Jackson's than How about
Pete Carroll after a year getting the whack with Vegas?
His fault, Spike Tech's fault, previous regime's fault.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
What do you make of that deal?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Everybody's fault and Pete's sin in all of this was
allowing his relentless optimism to make him think the Raiders
were better than they were. The moves they made, specifically
bringing in quarterbacks. You know, Smith thinking about Matthew Stafford
not wanting to develop a young quarterback. Drafting Ashton Jenny
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with a top ten pick, that's an icing on the
cake move. You have to have the cake before you
go get the icing. They didn't have the cake. They
don't have enough talent. They misevaluated what their roster was,
and it's on Pete Carroll for not recognizing it. It's
on John'spytech for making the moves that were made to
try to make the team better. And the one guy
who has escaped scrutiny so far for most is Tom Brady.
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He's an owner of the team. He was brought in
at a reduced rate by owner Mark Davis to stay
the football operation to fill the void that was created
when John Bruden ultimately left under circumstances that are well
documented in in some ways disputed, but Brady is the
right hand man and now now Brady's front and center.
The statement they issued on Monday regarding the termination if
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Pete Carroll said that John Spytech, in close collaboration with
Tom Brady, will lead the football operation. So Brady got
to decide whether he's going to be all in or
all out. I don't like this halfway absentee landlord. I
think the people who show up and put in the
work every day in any business, they resent nothing more
than someone who is just doing drive by telling them
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what they're doing wrong. To know what's happening, you have
to be there, and tom Brady's not going to do
that because he's not given up his gig with Fox,
He's not given up all the other stuff he does.
It generates revenue. He tries to make enough money that
he can own a team of his own at some point,
which I think is the play. I don't like it,
and I know and people say, oh, you hate tom
Brady's Like, no, everybody else is blind to it because
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they love tom Brady. Let's apply the same standard to
him that would apply to anyone else who's trying to
do this halfway ownership of a team, running of a
team not fully committed. Matt Ryan, if he gets these
Falcons job as president of football Operations, he's going to
be all in. He's going to be there every day.
That's the only way to do a job like that.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Would Tom Brady have the guts to hire somebody that
currently has a lawsuit going against the NFL in Brian Flores.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
If any team were to hire Brian Flores, it would
be the race. They have a long history of litigation
against the National Football League, and there is a rumor
that's been making the rounds. I heard about it over
the weekend. I haven't heard much talk of it lately,
but you know, this is a time of year where
you don't have to reach high on the tree to
find the apples. The apples are all over the orchard
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and you just got to pick them up and stuff
them into the sack and present them to the consumers
as quickly as possible. As so much news going on
right now. But the rumor is basically Tom Brady a
Patriot waiver reunion where you bring in guys who learned
under Bill Belichick. The guy that Brady learned under as
a player, Brian Flores, is available. His scheme is good
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enough to get him interviews. He's a free agent, so
technically they could hire Brian Daball to be the head
coach and Brian Flores to be the defensive coordinator. But
the way the rumor has gone around, it's Flores as
the head coach and Dave All, the former Giants coach
and former Patriots assistant on several different occasions, would run
the offense. So we'll see how that plays out. I
have someone's day to me today. Tom Brady may be
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crazy enough to try to bring back Josh mcdaaney's right,
because really, if McDaniels didn't have the failed stint with
the Raiders a couple of years ago, he'd be a
top candidate right now for what he's done with Drake May.
So if they're thinking about bringing in a quarterback with
that first overall pick, or maybe they offer the first
overall pick the Ravens for Lamar Jackson, don't be shocked
as something like that happens. But they need somebody to
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coach the quarterback, and Tom Brady has more faith in
Josh McDaniels than anyone else when it comes to running
an offense.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Multiple requests Mike to interview Clint Kubiak. You can remind
me he can interview this week. Is that correct, because
the Hawks of the Bye?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah? And it's a bad situation. And we talk about
this every year. There should be no interviews of current coaches.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
There should be.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
No hiring process at all until the Super Bowl has ended.
It creates a distraction for teams that are trying to
finish the job the right way. And this is a
narrative that comes up every year and the head coaches
of the teams that still have games to play don't
like it because here's the reality. When you're trying to
get a head coaching job. Are you really focused on
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your current job when you go home? And this is
the example that I've heard coaches give. When you go home,
if you're married, does your wife say, hey, how's the
preparation coming for your offensive attack against the upcoming opponent?
Or does the whites say, hey, you.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Know anything about where they're getting at at Atlanta?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Job? What about what about Tennessee? You know, I like
the schools better in Nashville than I do in New York.
Whatever it may be, that becomes the focal point of
the guy's life, and it puts the candidate in a
very difficult situation. They need to change it. I don't
think they ever will. But that said, yeah, he's a
viable candidate. I think it's going to be hard for
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guys who don't have head coaching experience to get hired
in this cycle. I think teams are going to skew
toward guys who have done it before. But it's undeniable
what he's done with Sam Darnold this year and what
he's managed to accomplish with the Seattle offense.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You have the Hawks number one in your power rankings.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
With the caveat you said, if they can avoid the Rams,
they'll get back to the super Bowl. I can read
that one of two ways. I could either say that
you think the Rams will beat the Hawks if they
play the Hawks, or you're just saying the Rams are
the one NFC team that could actually beat the Hawks.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Which are you saying?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I don't see the difference between the two. I think
you don't want a Round three with the Rams. Look
at how the Rams ran the ball and pass the
ball up and down the field in that Thursday Night Classic.
The Rams should have won that game. I don't think
you want the Rams coming back to town. And this
is true of any number one seed who has division
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rivals also in the playoffs, and obviously the Sea Hawks
have too in the forty nine ers in the Rams,
you don't want to play those teams. They are not
intimidated by you, they are not afraid of you, they
are not overwhelmed when they come to your stadium. They
go there every year and they would love nothing more
than to be responsible for ending your magical season. You
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don't want it. When the Rams looked like they were
the number one seed, I said, mean, that's you know,
I don't want to see hawks of the forty nine
ers showing up in Sofi Stadium in January. That's how
the magic run comes to an end. And now the
tables have turned, and you don't want You don't want
the Rams or the forty nine Ers, more so the Rams.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
But you know the forty nine.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Ers, I mean, they man handled it on Saturday Night.
Do we really think that happens the second game in
a row. I don't know if Trent Williams would play
in a rematch in the postseason. I wouldn't rule out
the forty nine Ers pulling off the victory division rival.
You never know what's going to happen in that third game.
So I want neither of those teams coming to the
century length Lumen whatever it's called. Is it Loomen?
Speaker 7 (17:59):
Now?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Can they a name?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
No kingdom? When they come to the Kingdom. I wouldn't
want to see the forty nine ers in the risk.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and we will talk
in a week. Appreciate it, Bud.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Are you impressed that I remembered the Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Very impressed. But you're also old like us, so you
should remember the Kingdom, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well, I won't say what although I've seen some very
salty language on TV today. Maybe the standards are changing,
so maybe I can drop an f bumb if I want.
I don't know. I'm confused by the current. And if
you'll watch this on nbct N in the morning, you
may hear some salty language, but I won't do that
to you because you're a sec regularly.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Well, we appreciate that, all right, man, love you.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm talking a week cepal Mike Florio with us Rick
new Heiseel, de Mine Williams and the portal.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
What does jetfish do? Now? Where does you dub go
from here? Next?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
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Speaker 2 (19:17):
All right, tepically, you hear this guy on Thursdays during
the college football season, but an emergency visits with the
former head coach of the Huskies now a brand new
head coach in the USFL.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
By the way, ufl ufl ufl take the s out
ufl ufl u f L.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We will chat about that and wish you luck down
the road and that endeavor for sure.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But dude, the news comes down last night about six o'clock,
Demon Williams putting his name in the transfer portal, shocking
pretty much everybody. This is just four days after he
had signed a NILAN revenue shared deal with Washington Friday.
The next story you tip here in that regard is it, Well,
the star quarterback is helping the coach find new players
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to make the football team better, not that he's leaving
the program. So let's just give you the floor. Your
reaction to last night's news, coach, Well.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
It's troubling if you're a Washington fan. It's certainly troubling
if you're Jed Fish. And with the donation, with the
designation along the entry into the portal is do not contact.
That means that somebody probably has contacted him, and so
this deal could be in the offing, and when it happens,
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we'll wait and see. But given the fact that he's
signed a document that says he's bound to Washington, it
will be an interesting legal challenge and I'm sure that
Washington I think I've read where Washington is already pursuing
their legal strategy as to how to proceed in this deal.
I mean, no one wants a guy who doesn't want
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to be there, but this is so crazy given the
success that the youngsters had with Jedfish as his head coach.
I know, we all know what kind of a wonderful
place Washington is, but what has happened over the last
forty eight hours is the quarterback marketplace has changed drastically
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in terms of what kids are commanding from a revenue standpoint.
The number that's being thrown around at Texas Tech with
their commitment from Brendan Soresby, the kid that was the
quarterback at Cincinnati this last year and previous to that
was at Indiana, is close to six million dollars. And
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at six million dollars, that means Sam Lovett's going to
be able to command a huge amount, whether it be
Miami or LSU. And somehow, some way, whether Demand's agent
did it, or somebody called him said, and I don't
know what his deal is with Washington, but somebody said,
you're about it, said here's what the numbers are. You
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need to reconsider this or the other potential is some
school now realizing And if you're LSU or Miami with
Soresby off the list, you're one of those guys that
says we're going to end up short of a elite quarterback.
And here's the next one on the elite list. Let's
see if he can be persuaded. So, if you're just
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trying to guess what happened, that seems to be to
be the most logical.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Well, Rick, how can he sign a one year deal
and get out of it without any repercussions? I mean,
what type of precedent would that set throughout college football?
I mean, these nil deals would not be worth the
paper they're printed on if Washington doesn't get some sort
of penalty payment.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Here, agreed, agreed. As a matter of fact, Georgia right
now is suing a linebacker who left them after signing
up and then il deal a year ago. I think
they paid thirty thousand to three hundred and some odd
thousand that the deal was that they had agreed to,
and then the kid left for greener past years with
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an emphasis on greener. They that's in litigation right now.
I don't know exactly what the tail of the tape
will be when the you know, those in the world
of jurisprudence look at this stuff. But in contract law,
when there is offer and there is acceptance, and there
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was consideration within the contract that forms a contract, and
usually there are damages when you break the contract, and
the damages in this case would be extreme.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, I was gonna say, don't you have a law degree?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
By the way, I do contract law. That was the
first thing you learned. Offer acceptance, but there has to
be consideration, and I'm sure there was plenty of consideration
involved in the Ban Williams deal with the University of
Wall Well.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean Rick new Heisel with us and Rick Here's
where I'm coming from. Demon Williams will never play it
down again for you, dub Ever, it's it's over, he's gone,
He's he's burned that bridge it's done. The only question
is what does Washington get, you know, on the back end,
as far as a settlement from LSU or whatever team
he ends up going to. And then what does Jedfish
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do on the other side of this? I mean put
yourself in his shoes. You can play by the greasy
rules that have been set up by college football's lack
of governance and go after somebody else's demon Williams if
you want, who's under contract with a different team, or
you can look to the portal and look to guys
like Sam Levitt or maybe you know a Dominic Raiola
or a DJ Lagway.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, the pickens are slims. So what's your move
if you're Jedfish.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Well, if you're of the mind that the bridge is burned,
then you have to go into the portal and you
have to do the best you can. And Jed's been,
you know, very good at finding guy will Rogers. Whether
you know whomever is out there the DJ Lagway thing
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probably will have some intrigue. But I'm telling you again,
this all comes down now to who's got the loot
because the money out there is exorbitant. My son is
now the quarterback coach at Northwestern and they just signed
to aid and Childs and I can't tell you how
much money they get him. I can't tell you, but
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it's incredible what the marketplace is, but it is. It's
one of those things that Jed's going to have to
get in and get in quickly because it's going to
dry up.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Well, I think you're right about getting in quickly, because
don't you think, Rick, that there are a lot of
quarterbacks out there that have not signed deals yet, that
are on teams, but they have not signed nil deals
for twenty point six sec demand a week ago.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Hadn't signed an nil deal with Washington.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
So what do you think the percentagees of the top
thirty quarterbacks in the nation that are actually already locked
up the deals for next year?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
So it's interesting you should ask that because I've been
on the phone with a number of college coaches as
I'm trying to assess who to take in this UFL
draft right because no one has a player, so I've
got to turn in the list of five quarterbacks tomorrow.
So I'm trying to get as much information on these
guys as I can, and in talking to these coaches,
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I'm pulling them away from what they're doing in the
transfer portal, and they're all like, thank god, I get
to talk about something other than money. Yes, thank god
I get to talk about a kid rather than, you know,
having to smile and act as if it's a wonderful
deal that I'm able to give this guy, you know,
bundles of money more than what he's worth, because it's
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just crazy, most of these guys having had experience in
what college athletics have been previous to this time. So
it's it's it's a wild wild West, and the money
is going incredibly. I mean, it's an un sustainable model
what's happening right now. And Sam Levitt and Demon Williams
have got the tiger by the tail right now when
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it comes to what they can command given what the
marketplace actually is right now.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, well there's names I've heard.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I've heard Levitt's name, I've heard Noah Fafiita's name from Arizona.
I've even heard Bo Prabula, the former Penn State Missouri quarterback,
as a potential target for you Dubs. So I don't know,
but if it came down to guys like that, is
there a preference for you Levet over FAFEEDA. For example,
what would be your preference if you had five million
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dollars now to go spend it a quarterback, who would
you spend it on?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Well, Levitt would be high on the list, and Jed's
knowledge of Faffita would be right there next. Those two
guys would put the bill. But I think five million,
as crazy as this sounds, at least for Levitt would
be light not enough. Fafita might be that deal. But yeah,
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I mean it's just craziness. And right now, what do
we It's January sixth seventh, whatever it is today, we
have tell the twelfth or excuse me, tell the sixteenth
for people to get into it. So there's ample time
for those who are still out there that are you know,
accomplished quarterbacks to just still consider this. And again there's
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this market ever growing in coming down to you know,
programs like Miami and LSU or who are counting on
a portal guy they're willing to spend. You can't spend
ninety one million dollars on Lane Kiffin and not.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Go get a quarterback for right, Well, and Rick, just
going back to the question about Demon William's future, I mean,
I was kind of taking it back is the wrong word,
but I when I mentioned the idea that Demand's done
at Washington, you kind of answered that, like, well, okay,
if that's the way you feel, are you telling me
that you can see a scenario after the last twenty
four hours where Demand Williams maybe pulls his name out
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of the portal and comes back to Washington.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I can see a situation where Washington sweetens the deal
and he, as he said, I have to do it's
best for me. Well, if what's best for you is
to stay within a program that you've already been on
and been coached by, and to be able to sustain
that and continue to grow on that, that might be
best for you. Financially. We don't know how far apart
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what the new market is and what Demand got because
everybody keeps these cards so close to the vests. But
until we get some transparency around this, we're going to
end up making villains out of young people, which is
really sad.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Well, isn't also a possibility that Demand going along those
lines of thinking, that Demand either plays at Washington or
he can't play anywhere because Washington will not allow him to.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
I don't know about the the legality of the document signed,
what the document is, is it name, image and likeness?
Is it for pay for play? These are the kind
of things that none of us really know, because it's
a brave new world. We just don't know. And what
kind of what kind of you know, hold or potential
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hold on Demon's career Washington has based on the signature
of the contract that he signed. I don't have any
idea what that looks like. And tell any of us
actually get to see what he signed, then I don't
think any of us can answer that appropriately.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
All right, before you go, who do you like to
play in Miami for the title?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
I think it's going to be Miami, in Indiana Miami.
I think Miami's just they've got to They can create
a pass rush without adding to the pressure. You don't
have to add a fifth guy. They can run the ball,
and they can stop all my running game and keep
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Shambliss from getting his legs involved. Then it's going to
be Miami. And in the other game, shoot, I was
there for the first one and that was Indiana going
to Eugene, and they held him to forty one yards
in the second half up until the last clock ride
when it was a two score game, and that we've
got a better version of Indiana right now based on
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that performance in the Rose Bowl. The confidence level is high.
So I'm going to take Indiana and I'm going to
take Miami.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I love it. That works for me, man, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Rick, great stuff, Thanks for doing this, and we'll talk
down the road, Bud.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Thanks guy.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I look forward to it. Boys.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Thanks be Rick, new isil with us. Lots to discuss.
We'll discuss all of it. Next big day. Demand Williams
and the portal. How about that coming up on ninety
three three KJRFM from.
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Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right, Petros Babinakas will join us coming up next
time before o'clock the day to have him on. By
the way, Holy moly with this demon Williams story. So
we want some of your reaction, right Jackson four nine,
four to five one for textemennials of four forty five.
We're gonna be off the air a little bit early
tonight for you, dumb and perdudy. I'll just say this,
if we're getting off the ear of five o'clock, the
Husky's better win a game for us.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
All right, go down there and be We have a
we have an agreement on this radio show, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm not sure if it's enforceable, like the Mon Williams
contract with you dubbed by the way, but the agreement
is if you knocks off the in dick on the
air at five o'clock and you play a top five team,
you must win or reimburse us on the radio show.
So we'll find out what happens at five tonight. But
we want your thoughts four nine, four to five to one.
You know, what's your mindset like as a Husky fan?
Who do you blame for all this? I heard the
end today talking about how there's apocrasy, look at it,
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there's always apocrasy and everything, and the was this point
point was that what what what Jed Fish did? The
Jaden Dolaura coaches leaving, coaches grabbing players, blah blah blah.
First of all, they're they're there is some hypocrisy. I'll
admit that in college football number one. Number two. I
do think this is different than a coach leaving Dick
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for another program. And here's why, because there's no salary
cap for coaches in college football.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
There is for players.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's called twenty point five million dollars in revenue share
and whatever finite number of sponsors dogs on leash can
come up with them.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
By the way, if you.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Udub knew that Demon Williams was leaving, maybe they would
have jumped in the portal earlier to grab a quarterback.
Maybe they would have spent money on Jordan Watt, excuse me,
Ad Mohammad or Raydon Vines Bright to keep those guys
in Seattle. That's number one, and then number two. The
timing of this, I think is what really sucks for Washington.
There are quarterbacks out there, and if you're going to
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play it the right way, which is just get guys
in the portal, the pickings are pretty slim compared to
where they would have been maybe a week ago. If
DeMont Williams a week ago wanted to take off before
he signed his NIL deal, then take off and get
the hell out of here.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I wouldn't have been happy about that either.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
By the way, just for the record, but I'm more
pissed off that Washington finds out four days after he
signs his deal and multiple big name quarterbacks that maybe
you Dubb would have wanted a piece of are already
off the board.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Well, I think it's totally different than a coach, because
a coach has got language in his contract saying this
is how much the school is going to get if
I leave this day, if I leave that day, if
I leave this day, it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Right in writing. There caught a buyout right now.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yes, there is nothing like that in a player's contract,
and I think we are going to get to a
point where the player's contracts are going to look very
much like the coach's contracts.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah. Well, look, I mean I'm just this whole thing
just discussed me.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It really does a lot of different angles on this
discuss me. The fact that this happened during Mia Hammond's
memorial last night just irritates the absolute.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hell out of me.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I mean, I cannot believe that Demond Williams would go
out and do something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Do I think it was intentional?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Do I think that demand Williams was sitting in his condo,
thinking hey, there's a memorial for me, I'll put his
tweet out or this IG post out.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, I don't think that. I think he's adult, is
what I think.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think he's a dumb ass kid that did something
really stupid last night with the entire football team in attendance,
with Jed and assistant coaches by the way, guys, and
he decided to make that night about him.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Can we just yeah, we need to establish that really quick,
because I've seen too much BS on social media and
on the text line saying he didn't know who Mia
was and listen, he's a football nine. Like, come on, man,
if you guys really believe that, then to Sofia, you said, Monday,
get your head out of your ass. The entire football
team and coaches were there, demon knew what was happening,
(35:38):
and screw him for having either he or his representation
putting that out there.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
During it.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
He's getting terrible advice, Dick, and he's getting terrible advice
from his parents. By the way, I don't even know
how much his agent was involved in this story. To
be honest with you, honestly, I would like.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
To believe that there is more good in a kid
than bad in a kid. And I would like to
believe that he had no idea exactly when that was
going to be posted and win that because I don't
think he sat down, wrote it and hit send. All right,
I certainly don't believe that. So I would rather believe
that he wouldn't purposely put that out or have somebody
(36:16):
purposely put that out during me as fewer.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, there's a difference. And look, I agree with you.
I don't think he said like I said. I don't
think demon said I want to send this post out.
Can we wait until MIA's memorial service to do it.
I don't think he said that. I just think he's
an idiot. That's what I think. I think he's a
dumb kid.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Tone deaf.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That is completely tone deaf. That is totally the right
way to say it, exactly. But no, look, I mean,
you Dub is going to fight this tooth and nail.
There's all these people on social media, a lot of
them in the media, by the way, they don't understand anything.
You Dub is going to enforce the terms of his contract.
How can he come back? Guys?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
They're not enforcing the terms of his contract to get
Demon Williams back in Seattle. They're enforcing the terms of
his contract to be entitled to whatever legal damages they
can sue.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That's what this is now all about. Act He's done.
He's done.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
He's public enemy number one in my opinion, he's finished.
He will never ever step foot at Husky Stadium ever
again as a football player.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I don't want the guy back.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And if he does come back, like Rick new Wesnet
talked about, and by the way, file that under what
you and I talked about yesterday, you never know what's
gonna happen anymore. You can't can't, you can't say no
to any crazy idea. He comes back to Washington, it's
going to be a garbage dump.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Absolute you know what, show every question.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The booze from the audience, from the stands, the criticisms. Man,
now he needs to leave. He burned a bridge and
it's time for him to go.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
No, there's no question about it. I mean, I just
see this ending. Most likely Washington gets paid off and
Demon goes to LSU or where wherever. Right, if that
doesn't happen or this is prolonged, Washington can hold Demon
Williams hostage.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, here's the thing though about that he doesn't need
to be in the transfer poot to go play for
somebody else. There's a kid named Xavier Lucas that transferred
from Wisconsin to Miami and he is playing for the Hurricanes.
And he left with Conson and he left Wisconsin and
never went to the portal and ended up enrolling with
the Hurricanes. And there's a lawsuit that's been pending now
(38:16):
and it'll be pending for a long time. So this
is what happens. Guys go out and they just break
rules because they know there's no consequence for it. And
this is a seminal moment. You're exactly right, Dick for
college football. And there's a quote in Pete Thamil's article
and I we have to break here. There's a quote
in Pete Thamil's article today where a high ranking INCAA
executive has a simple question that everyone needs to answer.
(38:38):
Are we going to respect rules and contracts or are
we not? Because if we're not, then the wild wild
West will continue to be wild. It already started with
the Xavier Lucas guy. Demon Williams. He's not going to
jail for this, right he'll take off. He'll go to
LSU Washington SUS LSU. LSU doubles Demon's nil or gives
(38:58):
them a raise. They settle with UDUB. Some big fat
oil baron from Louisiana just gonna cost LSU twice as
much for de mont Williams.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Right, So check to Washington.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
They get a bag, and the mont Williams takes off
and goes in place for LSU. That's the most that's
likely how this will come down until college football says enough,
we're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
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