January 9, 2026 • 31 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about the entire Demond Williams situation and Jedd Fisch’s comments, plus the CFP and NFL playoffs, then they discuss Demond’s next steps and how they can treat college players.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now with you, here's Softie and Dick. We got a
busy Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
If you miss Jetfish six pm the night, tune in
for that. Kevin Harlan's going to join us at five
o'clock tonight on the radio program normally on Wednesdays, but
been a little busy the last couple of days. Wacky
things have been going on. So Kevin will join us
at five tonight. But here he is, our friend, our
resident NFL insider, Hue Breedlove Millan. How are you, Pow,
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what's going on? Good to be with you, Dave, Yeah,
good to be with you, Hugh. Let's let's talk about
what you heard from Jetfish.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
There.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Man, we spent about twenty minutes talking with the coach
of the Dogs. Your your thoughts, takeaways that conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Well, I think there's a fine line between media savvy
and media evasive, and I think we heard both. And
yet once Jed made the decision that he wanted to
bring back Demond, he was willing to be bring back Demond,
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then I don't think he could have answered questions a
lot differently. Certainly there was a number of times where
I say evasive on my notes, but I also have
a column where I wrote smoking gun, which to my interpretation,
I think I have the same theory that I think
most have, which is that and it's deduced from an
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inference to the best explanation about a set of facts.
And the theory that I have is that demon Williams
went into the portal. He had a do not contact tag,
as confirmed by Pete Thamil, who's been getting everything right,
and that indicates that he had a specific school in mind.
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I believe that that school was LSU. I believe that
there was tampering. That's why Jed didn't want to discuss tampering.
But I also believe that when Washington flexed, they're legal,
not necessarily obligations, but there they're legal, uh prerogatives. I
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believe that at that point when you consider when Jed
said that, Hey, when Dave you asked him, you had
to come back right. What he said was every conversation
I've had with Demon is that he's excited to be
on this team. He's excited about who he's surrounded by.
That is not answering the question that to me is
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a smoking gun, particularly when paired with the by Darren Heidner,
the new agent who said this demand arrived at the
most well informed decision possible. He decided to return to Washington,
not because he was forced to. Of course, he wasn't
forced to. He could have sat out the year in
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twenty twenty six and gone wherever he wanted, not because
he was forced to, not because he didn't understand his options,
but because he was fully educated on the consequences of
each path and chose the one that made the most
sense for him right coma, and because he truly wanted
to return to Washington lead his team to further success.
I get it, that's what an attorney would say, but
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there's no doubt in my mind that that's exactly how
it played out. And to me, there was enough disclosed
by Jed. I think that he had to answer most
of those questions that way, given what we know about
the facts, he can't.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He can't.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
He can't describe the facts, Hugh.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Bigger picture now that we know who the quarterback is,
I asked Jed, I want to ask you. I mean,
what do the dogs need to do in your mind
to be playing tonight?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
In this game?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
One of the teams they're playing tonight, they already played
and I thought it was a fairly competitive game. If
you look at some statistics, it was a fairly competitive game.
So do you agree with Jed when he says we're
closer and we're close?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, I think it's a fine line.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I mean, we've talked about how the numbers have the
biggest drop offensively both and also with the statistics that
pertain to the quarterback, that performance drop, it's the biggest
drop in all power for So is there improvement?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think the best game I've ever seen from Demon
is the sun Ball, and so we thought that there
would be That was an eighteen year old. We thought
there'd be improvement. As a nineteen year old. The schedules
was clearly easier in twenty twenty five. I mean, Wazoo,
they didn't have Matier. They were two years, not one
year removed from PAC twelve. And then in twenty twenty four,
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Washington played one team in the bottom twenty in defense
out of power Ford that was Northwestern. In this past
year they played five and that was all five of
the wins bottom twenty out of sixty seven. So I
don't know that I saw improvement. I see when I
study the tape, I see a lot of things that,
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in my opinion, need to be improved. I don't know
if Jed sees them that way, but the numbers speak
for themselves. They're gonna have to be better. I would
just you know, my conclusion always this is, are you
Kyler Murray or are you Dorrian Thompson Robinson and Drrian
Thompson Robins damn good quarterback? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he
lost eight games four each of his last two years,
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and he was a third round draft pick, not the first.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Overall.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We talk a lot of Hoskey football over the offseason here,
and I got a feeling we're gonna be talking a
lot more this offseason right because of this story. But
let's go to tonight's game, and by the way, if
there was any by the way, concern or curiosity about
who I'm rooting for.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In tonight's game.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Okay, right there, baby, got the Indiana T shirt on
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Let's go Hoosiers. Come on, boys, let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Indiana went to Oregon earlier this year and pretty much
just dominated the Ducks at the line of scrimmage in
that game.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Do you see the same thing happening again tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
No, By the way, Hugh Noah Whittington questionable for this
game tonight. They've got some other running backs, including Davidson,
that are out for tonight's game. So what do you
think is going to happen here in Atlanta in the
next half hours?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Though? Well, Oregon's healthier at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think Dante Moore was shockingly non competitive in that game.
He just looked like he had no fire. He looked
like he had no answer. We're talking about a home game,
obviously against the Hoosiers, but the Hoosiers, you know, I'll
quote Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer said that what the coaching
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job that has been done at Indiana is the greatest
coaching job in the history of college football. You know,
I don't know how much Urban studied that, but I
you know, passes my sniff tests, and so I think
that what you see is an Indiana team that you
just have to keep constantly reminding yourself it's not Indiana, right.
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They have those classic red and white number. You got
to think of them as Alabama or Oklahoma or Nebraska
or some of these other teams. I know their shades
are red, but they have an NFL secondary and I
think that they are coached like a few teams I've seen.
I believe that they have the number one overall pick
in the draft at quarterback, and so I would expect
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it's going to be more of the same. I'll be
surprised if Oregon comes out of this thing with a win.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I would as well.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
But if they do come out with a win, did
the right team win for us last night as far
as as far as a better chance to knock out Oregon?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
And was that play of the game pass interference in
your mind?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh, it's absolutely past interference, And uh, you know, I
don't I don't understand. I really don't understand the idea. Hey,
let the players play on the last play of the game.
So you're telling me that I hate to use Lebron
because I'm not a fan of Lebron, but Lebron drives
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down the lane with with four seconds to go in
Game seven and the Lakers are down by one, and
he goes up and he clearly gets hit on the wrist. Uh,
you're telling me that you're just going to swallow the
whistle and let the players play, And that's not letting
just letting the players violate the rules of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We see calls like that in the NBA all the time,
but we don't see him in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
On hell, Mary's you're right.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, But now I would say, look if it was
you know, a guy ran in motion and maybe he
went six inches forward, Okay, that's ticki tac. That that
didn't give you a material advantage. You know, a formation,
you know, one guy's got to be on the line
of screamage, one receiver's got to be off. Obviously the
defense isn't confused about who's eligible. Like, I'm not calling
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that on the last play of the game, five yards
you know, illegal formason. No, there's a there's a room
for excluding ticki tac plays. But when you're talking about
material materially affecting the game, then I think you have
to call that, and now in the NFL, obviously would
have been at the one yard line. It's only a
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fifteen yard penalty, but I think it's got to be
called here.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Millin's well, us, Hugh, Let's let's get to what's happening
this weekend in the NFL. Right, we're all sitting around
waiting to see who the Seahawks will play next weekend.
It'll be the Rams, It'll be the Panthers, it'll be
the forty nine ers, or it will be the Green
Bay Packers. I know you're not into predictions, right, You'd
never been into predictions as long as I've known you.
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But this Packer game with the Bears is intriguing to
me because that is a.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Number three seed Chicago, is that right, guys?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Bears versus a seventh seed, yet the seventh seed two seven?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The two versus a seven, yet the seven is the favorite.
Packers are given a point and a half. So obviously
Vegas thinks Green Bay is gonna win the game and
come to Seattle as the seventh seed next weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
How would surprise? Would you be shocked? Not surprised?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
If Jordan Love and company without Michael Parsons walked into
Soldier Field, knocked off the Bears and came to Seattle
next week.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I would think it's pretty close to a pick. And
what's the spread?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
One and a half?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think that in Jordan Love, you know,
he's had a concussion, he's been out. I think their
offense has has kind of hit the skids a little bit.
Clearly with Michael Parsons, they.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Don't have it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I think that that Caleb Williams has really ascended. You know,
you had a chance to win a game winner earlier,
he underthrows it, he gets in intercepted. Now he gets
into a same situation in in overtime and he and
he throws it farther and he throws a dime to
win the game. That guy, I think is all that
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he was dressed up to be as the number one
overall pick, and so I think he's playing with confidence,
you know, playing at home. I don't know. I don't
I would not say Green Bay is, you know, should
be a stark favorite in that game. I think the
Packers they've they got to find themselves because they really
limped into the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Hugh, I don't know what odds we could have gotten
in August if we'd have said Patrick mahomes, Lamar Jackson,
Joe Burrow are not playing in the playoffs and Josh
Allen's an underdog in the wild card round in the playoffs.
But it's astronomical. If you are Brandon Bean, the GM
of the Bills, are you immediately on the phone with
John Harbaugh. If Buffalo doesn't win as one and a
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half point dogs against Jacksonville on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, I'd be done. With Sean McDermott. Absolutely my language here,
I'd be done. You cannot waste this beautiful Hall of
Fame quarterback with just you know, they're just something missing.
And I think Harbrough's got enough chops he could put
them over the top. They just seem to always be
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kind of missing something. Now I will say, I'm a
I'm about as big a Bills fan as a guy
could be. They are my number two if the Seahawks
don't win it. I don't I don't understand the idea
that you can't have your primary team and then you
have your you know, your secondary or tertiary whatever the
word would be. Team. I might like more than one
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team and and I will if Seattle were to lose,
and I hope that doesn't happen. I hope we're doing
a parade in Seattle. Let me make that you know
perfectly clear. I shouldn't need to, but I'm a big
Bills fan for for a long time because Josh Allen's
my top three quarter favorite quarterbacks ever, and so I've
watched them close. They are always getting bit with the
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injury bug on their defense. It's like they can never
field healthy defense. It must drive the Bills fans crazy,
but they're a deserving fan base. They're certainly a deserving quarterback,
the player, the competitor, who he is. I'm buying everything
to Josh Allen's selling and if they you just said it, Dick,
think about this, you're talking about You just mentioned those
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are three of the premier quarterbacks of this generation and
they're not.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You don't even have to go through them.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And so if I'm a Bills fan, it's got to
be all gas, no breaks on this, And it would
be so devastating if they lose, and I would say
bye bye Sean mcturney, Yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Would I mean he probably fired the GM too.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He's the one that built the defense for God's sakes, right,
So probably just clean house. But hum Millin's with us
normally at five o'clock. We wanted to have mino bit
earlier today to react to Jetfish and get his thoughts
on the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And here was your old team, the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Am I right, guys and saying the Patriots had the
easiest schedule in the NFL this.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Year, one of the easiest guys in the last twenty
five years.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They ranked of schedule thirty seconds in the National Football
League and they're fourteen and three. They're obviously home taken
on Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers. And one of your
favorite guys, Huie Justin Herbert. Are we about to see
a paper tiger on display on Sunday night in Foxborough?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Great question. And on that note, I've had this on
my notes and all the shows. I've never got this.
In the Seahawks out of fourteen teams, they had the
second highest strength of victory, and strength of victory is
a tiebreaker in the NFL before strength of schedule. So
I think there was a time where there was a
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little bit of hand ringing, Oh, Seahawks can't beat anybody
of consequence. Let me see it again. Their strength of victory,
that does the win percentage of the teams they beat
had the second highest. Now the Rams had the highest,
but the Seattle was second.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So very.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Very commendable on their part on that regard. But yeah,
it certainly would seem possible that New England's somewhat like Seattle,
is maybe a year early. I know it's year one
with Vrabel there and Drake May has come on as
an MVP Canada. I think that the one concern from
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watching the Chargers, and I'm a big Justin Herbert fan,
is they lost their offensive line. You know, they had
two tackles like they can never protect. For Justin Herbert,
this guy gets has got hit more since he got
the league than anybody by far, and they often have
just kind of pedestrian receivers. And now Ladd mccomically, excuse me,
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Lad McConkey has been, you know, a nice little, you know,
smurf type guy work in the middle of the field
and what have you. But I still think that their
targets are are weak and their protection is weak. So
I understand why New England would be favored.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Ten days ago I thought the forty nine Ers would
have had a great chance to go into Philadelphia and
beat the Eagles. I kind of feel like Seattle might
have Oakham last week. What do you think, Hugh, do
they stand a decent chance on that one?
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I don't like saying it, but I got a lot
of respect for Kyle Shanahan. Remember now, the forty nine
Ers since twenty nineteen, that was Shanahan's third year. Uh,
they have the most wins in the NFC, and their
ability to be resilient is almost unprecedent when you consider
they're losing these guys that are Hall of Fame bound
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on both sides of the ball. But I do think
they're getting a little bit healthier. And do they have
their tackle He practiced.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Williams, he practiced.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And what about Pearsall He did not practice. So yeah,
I would say Philadelphia. Philadelphia has Let me just go
back to a year ago. Now, I was making the
argument that the Eagles supported Jalen Hurts better than any
team I've ever seen in the Super Bowl era. Let
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me explain what I mean. Let's just go by Pro
Football Focus, and again, every team in the NFL has
their subscription. The Eagles had the number one offensive line
in all Pro football, number one. They had the number
one tandem of receivers and DeVante Smith and aj Brown
number one. Okay, they had the number one defense, and
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they had Saquon Barkley, and they had I think a
godd It was like the eighth or ninth tight end.
If you'd asked me before last year what quarterback was
best supported by those terms, I would say the nineteen
eighty four San Francisco forty nine ers. We went fifteen
to one and beat the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
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And that team they had the number one defense at
Roger Craig. They had Jerry Rice and what have you.
But Joe Montana didn't have nearly as good offensive line
as Jalen Hurts had last year. So that's how good.
Howie Roseman is Jed Fish's college roommate, the GM of
the Eagles. They they had a tremendous roster. Now the
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offensive line has dipped a little bit, but they have
a ceiling that is exceedingly high when they get all
their parts together. You know, there's been a lot of
handwringing about Syrian and whether he's the guy but that
roster is so damn talented that I think that they're
capable of beating anybody, including the forty nine ers, including
the Seahawks, including the Rams, and including anybody out of
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the AFC. I don't want to happen, right because I
don't like them, right, But yeah, yeah, I tip.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
My hat they got they got a lot of horsepower.
Would you do me one quick favorite before you go?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Will you just just do as I ask for once
in your damn life. I'm just gonna ask you a
question and just don't give me this. I don't like prediction.
It's just tell me who the Hawks are playing next weekend? Packers, Bears, Rams, Pants, Panthers, Niners, Eagles.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Who's coming to town next Timeaturday? Rams? Rams? Got you?
You're the man, great stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
We'll talk next week, all right, I'm failing with us,
he says, the Rams are coming. Rams win and basically
everybody wins, the favorites, right, they all win. So the
Rams come to town next weekend to play Seattle, which
I think would be like, my god, imagine winning that
game next weekend, which I think is going to be
on Saturday. I know it just said Saturday. I think
it's going to be Saturday. Nothing guaranteed. Could be Sunday, obviously,
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but that feels like the biggest roadblock, does it not,
at least for now to getting to a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I think it's the biggest roadblock in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It might be, it might be.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hey, you know what Richard Sherman said, the twenty thirteen
NFC Championship was the super Bowl. Maybe that game would
be like the super Bowl between the two best teams
in the NFL, and whoever wins it is gonna win
the whole friggin thing. A lot to get to. Hawks
coming up the game last night with all miss and
Missouri excuse me, all miss of Miami. The Hurricanes are
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in Indiana, Oregon tonight. Jed Fish was with us earlier
to we got a lot to get to. Kevin Harlan
joins at five as well on ninety three three KJRFM,
now back.
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
Point three JR.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
It's a situation where somebody is telling him to do
those things, then I don't I don't think that anybody
would be happy I think it is whatever Demand really
believes that he could do, whether it be I mean
you mentioned a donation or whatever it might be. I
don't want to tell somebody what to do. What I
want de Mond to do is I want the Mond
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to continue to grow, to mature, and to be comfortable.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Us jet Fish with us about an hour ago. You
hear it again coming up at six pm tonight for
those getting in the car right now and those people
that have jobs and lives and couldn't be here at
three fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You're like, damn, I missed it. No, no, no, six pm tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And you know what if you missed that, you're hear
the podcast as well on the website.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
We'll send it out here. Just here to service you man.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That's what we're all about, just bending over frigging backwards
every day to service you people the best we can
and give you what you deserve. So Jedfish, we asked
if Demon's got some extra work, extra credit right after school,
homework to get done, to mend some fences, and you
heard what he said there. Doesn't want to tell him
what to do. He wants it to be organic from him.
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And I mean, look, I honestly think and you asked
Tick about when Deman's going to talk, and from what
I'm understanding, that's not going to be anytime soon, like
in the next week or so.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It might not be in the next month or so.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
There's a part of me that thinks that demand's better
off staying off social media and just shutting her down
for a while. But I also think that there are
things that can be done behind the scenes that we
don't necessarily need to hear about right now. Right like
a phone call to Mia Hammond's mom and dad would
be severely appropriate.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
A donation.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Sitting down with the uw women's soccer team is sitting
down with his football teammates in the locker room kind
of a coming to Jesus. Anybody have any questions that
I can answer. I don't know if he cares enough
to do all of those things. I don't know if
the people around him care enough to have him do
all those things. My hope is that in the next
month or so, we ask Hey, what was done to
help mend defences and re establish trust and loyalty, and
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he just rattles off four or five things that he.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Did, and we all say Hey, that's great, glad you
did that. Kid.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
No, absolutely, And I keep thinking, I know there are
people out there and rightfully so, that are angry and
think that, hey, Jedfish should have just excommunicated this kid.
And I mean I keep thinking how young he mentioned
how young demand was when Jedfish first met him.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
He was younger than my kid.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Now he's like fifteen years old when he so he
has had this is a long term, almost father son
type relationship he's had with this guy.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And why did Demon Williams go behind his back?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
That's a excelling questions for Demon.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Jed admitted to us on the air that he put
this post out what Tuesday night?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He had no idea, Yes, he had no idea.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
It's a guy who you just says a father figure
to Demon Williams and know since he's fourteen years old.
But DeMont told him nothing, nothing about this Instagram post,
which I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh there's a bush league move by Demon.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, Jed Fish has gone out of his way
to promote and market and pump up Demon Williams more
than any coach in Husky football history has ever done.
A backup quarterback that's correct, and this is the way
he gets treated.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I think so has ever done a starting quarterback, I
mean calling him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The face the program? I've never heard one.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Did he coach ever say there's a face of the program?
He did that before he was a starter, right, he
did that two years ago.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
But my point is, I don't even know if a
Husky coach has ever done that about a the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
But tick, you talk about how he's a nineteen year
old kid, I would say this, I think at the
point that a human being starts signing contracts worth millions
of dollars and the point where you become the face
of a multi million dollar football program, man, you better
mature the bleep upright, because I'm sorry then your excuses of.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh, I was just a young kid.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
No, and I was talking about when he first met him,
like the depth of the relationship.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I totally understand your point.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
You're talking about it right now, and there's a lot
of people right now saying, forgive him, he's a young kid.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
That goes out the window. When you do all of
these things, you're no longer in nineteen mid old. When
you do all these things you're you have to mature.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, well, how many times did we say in the
last couple of years. If they start paying players, then
players are going to start being treated like pros.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, by the media, by the fans.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Okay, So I'm just kind of just just throwing this
out there, all right, stream of consciousness whatever. So either
a we can just say, okay, that now is appropriate
to talk about college kids like that and expect college
kids to act a certain way and to be mature
beyond their years.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Or we can just admit that we are giving money
to kids. That's it. We're just if we're going.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
To give money, we still remember their nineteen We don't
expect anything more out of him.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's on us.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And if we don't feel comfortable getting money to kids,
that we don't give money to kids. I mean, part
of the problem here, I think, is that you're asking
a nineteen year old kid to be an adult when
he's not a freaking adult. Right.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
But I also think a nineteen year old kid, usually
in a college setting, certainly has more of a support
group around him helping him out than a twenty four
year old NFL multi millionaire that's living on his own.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I see I thought you're going to say a regular
twenty four year old, just some twenty four year old,
not just comparing.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I'm comparing the mistakes a nineteen year old college kid
would make to a mistakes that like a third year
NFL pro would make, like going to.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Jail or you know, getting suspended or what.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I think you would think that a nineteen year old
kid would have more of a motherly and fatherly figure
still influencing than a twenty four year old.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Right here, And I think yes, And I think the
college environment fosters more of a hey, we got to
protect these kids because they're still kids versus an enna
felt teams like this is a business man, what you
do on your own time is on you.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I don't think anybody's wrong here, Jackson Dick. I mean,
I mean, I think your point Jackson, about hey, this
is what comes along with money. I mean, if you're
going to start getting into a situation where you're asking
people to give you millions of dollars a year, then
you better be prepared to have a higher standard of
expectation that falls upon you, period. And the story and
that I absolutely agree with, and if you're not ready
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to take people's money. If you're not ready to take
millions of dollars for people, then you're not ready for
it yet. But I mean again, the guy's making like
we all know what he's making now. Yeah, So demon
Williams goes out there next year and plays bad, this
is what.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We're getting for four million whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Let's hope to god the guy plays, you know well
enough to avoid that stuff. And I think there are
certain ways that you talk about a football player in
the pros versus a football player in college. And now
that college players are making money, I will be honest
with you, I feel way more at ease going after
these guys when they're when they're making a lot more
money than they ever were. And by the way people
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have mentioned, like, for example, I called them on Williams
a prick. You know why I called him a prick
because of the me, because of the Mia Hammond thing.
That's why I called him a prick. I've ben to
call him prick for leaving Washington. Look if he would
have left UDUB a week ago before he signed his
NIO and just said, you know what, this is not
for me. Whatever, Hey, I'm not happy, trust me. But
there's nowhere near the vitriol. I think that we had
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a week ago, so I've had a lot of people
reach out to me. He said, well, I'd just say
that because he did it during a freaking memorial service
for a young woman that just died of cancer.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
How far up your butt.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Does your head need to be to realize that the
entire team is there, your coaches are there, your head
coaches there. And that was a bad idea, and that
really irritated me. I mean again, maybe I'm in the
wrong for thinking like that. It's I mean, it's my emotion,
it's my opinion. I feel like I'm entitled to it.
But that is why I called him what I called
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him because of the mia ham At angle, not anything else.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think that's what a lot.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Of people who are kind of just you know, trying
to defend him is being critical of people like us
Softie and maybe Dick two. But they're saying, like, why
are you so angry with this kid?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Lead.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
I think what everybody who's against us needs to understand
is the timing of this is as important, I think
as as just the announcement in general, Considering that all
of his teammates and coaches found out about this at
the ceremony on social media. If you can close your eyes,
folks and imagine, god, you are at a funeral service
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or at a celebration of life for a important person
in your life or important person in the loved one's life,
and at the event you find breaking news about another
family member or something on social media.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
How is that gonna make you feel? Terrible?
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Terrible? And I just feel, like I told Jackson, I was.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
You know, Gene is watching ted Lasso now because she
finally decided, like three years later, it's time to watch it, right,
So she's watching it. Remember the scene where all the
guys in the locker room they call them locker rooms
in the in the Premier League, by the way, and
they're all on their phones and everybody's phone starts going
off at the same time.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
We got Zava.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
We got Zava, right, I mean, can you imagine being
at that service and you look down, you see all
these players in the stands and boom, all of a sudden,
they start grabbing their phones, like what the hell's going
on during this thing? So that that that really really
bugged me. But we're kind of through that now. We're
over that now. Now the question is, whatever scars, whatever wounds,
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came out of the last couple of days, how long
will it take for them to heal? How likely are
people to kind of move on. I'll be honest with you,
I can already sense the temperature coming down a little bit,
even since last night and two or three days ago.
I do agree with you, Dick, that time heals all wounds.
But then we're gonna get to the season. Then the
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season's gonna come, and then he's gonna be in the spotlight.
What's gonna happen for the next eight months is that
demon Williams is probably gonna go away, right, He's gonna
go away.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's not gonna be on social media. He's not gonna
do a lot of stuff with the media.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Maybe he does his own little press conference and then
that's maybe it until fall camp. But for the most part,
he's gonna go away, and then the season's gonna start,
and then he's back in the spotlight, and then what happens.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's the question for me.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
It was a flesh wound to start with.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I mean, on a scale of one to ten, and
ten being the most angry you could get I was
like A two, So I mean I it does. It's
not gonna take me long to heal from this. As
far as what demand does, I mean, I think we
have enough data on demand to know exactly how he's
going to play against teams ranked fiftieth through one hundredth
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in college football. Guys off, the only question is the
three games we play against teams ranked one through twenty
five in college football. Is he gonna be able to
get through at least one of those games and lead
us to a ten and two record?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
To tell you what, that's what it's gonna take to
make the playoff.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Tayler's gonna suck as if he struggles and Sam Levitt
goes to Tennessee and tears it up. Next year, we're
gonna break textimonials yet next segment, and then Kem Harlan's
going to join on five normally on Wednesday, but we
had a little basketball game Wednesday, So Kevin Harlan, who's
got the Texans and Steelers on radio by the way,
on Monday, I think he's doing Michigan Wisconsin for TV
tomorrow as well. He'll join us at five on ninety
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now with you, here's Softie and Dick. We got a
busy Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
If you miss Jetfish six pm the night, tune in
for that. Kevin Harlan's going to join us at five
o'clock tonight on the radio program normally on Wednesdays, but
been a little busy the last couple of days. Wacky
things have been going on. So Kevin will join us
at five tonight. But here he is, our friend, our
resident NFL insider, Hue Breedlove Millan. How are you, Pow,
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what's going on? Good to be with you, Dave, Yeah,
good to be with you, Hugh. Let's let's talk about
what you heard from Jetfish.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
There.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Man, we spent about twenty minutes talking with the coach
of the Dogs. Your your thoughts, takeaways that conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Well, I think there's a fine line between media savvy
and media evasive, and I think we heard both. And
yet once Jed made the decision that he wanted to
bring back Demond, he was willing to be bring back Demond,
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then I don't think he could have answered questions a
lot differently. Certainly there was a number of times where
I say evasive on my notes, but I also have
a column where I wrote smoking gun, which to my interpretation,
I think I have the same theory that I think
most have, which is that and it's deduced from an
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inference to the best explanation about a set of facts.
And the theory that I have is that demon Williams
went into the portal. He had a do not contact tag,
as confirmed by Pete Thamil, who's been getting everything right,
and that indicates that he had a specific school in mind.
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I believe that that school was LSU. I believe that
there was tampering. That's why Jed didn't want to discuss tampering.
But I also believe that when Washington flexed, they're legal,
not necessarily obligations, but there they're legal, uh prerogatives. I
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believe that at that point when you consider when Jed
said that, Hey, when Dave you asked him, you had
to come back right. What he said was every conversation
I've had with Demon is that he's excited to be
on this team. He's excited about who he's surrounded by.
That is not answering the question that to me is
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a smoking gun, particularly when paired with the by Darren Heidner,
the new agent who said this demand arrived at the
most well informed decision possible. He decided to return to Washington,
not because he was forced to. Of course, he wasn't
forced to. He could have sat out the year in
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twenty twenty six and gone wherever he wanted, not because
he was forced to, not because he didn't understand his options,
but because he was fully educated on the consequences of
each path and chose the one that made the most
sense for him right coma, and because he truly wanted
to return to Washington lead his team to further success.
I get it, that's what an attorney would say, but
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there's no doubt in my mind that that's exactly how
it played out. And to me, there was enough disclosed
by Jed. I think that he had to answer most
of those questions that way, given what we know about
the facts, he can't.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He can't.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
He can't describe the facts, Hugh.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Bigger picture now that we know who the quarterback is,
I asked Jed, I want to ask you. I mean,
what do the dogs need to do in your mind
to be playing tonight?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
In this game?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
One of the teams they're playing tonight, they already played
and I thought it was a fairly competitive game. If
you look at some statistics, it was a fairly competitive game.
So do you agree with Jed when he says we're
closer and we're close?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, I think it's a fine line.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I mean, we've talked about how the numbers have the
biggest drop offensively both and also with the statistics that
pertain to the quarterback, that performance drop, it's the biggest
drop in all power for So is there improvement?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think the best game I've ever seen from Demon
is the sun Ball, and so we thought that there
would be That was an eighteen year old. We thought
there'd be improvement. As a nineteen year old. The schedules
was clearly easier in twenty twenty five. I mean, Wazoo,
they didn't have Matier. They were two years, not one
year removed from PAC twelve. And then in twenty twenty four,
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Washington played one team in the bottom twenty in defense
out of power Ford that was Northwestern. In this past
year they played five and that was all five of
the wins bottom twenty out of sixty seven. So I
don't know that I saw improvement. I see when I
study the tape, I see a lot of things that,
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in my opinion, need to be improved. I don't know
if Jed sees them that way, but the numbers speak
for themselves. They're gonna have to be better. I would
just you know, my conclusion always this is, are you
Kyler Murray or are you Dorrian Thompson Robinson and Drrian
Thompson Robins damn good quarterback? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he
lost eight games four each of his last two years,
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and he was a third round draft pick, not the first.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Overall.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We talk a lot of Hoskey football over the offseason here,
and I got a feeling we're gonna be talking a
lot more this offseason right because of this story. But
let's go to tonight's game, and by the way, if
there was any by the way, concern or curiosity about
who I'm rooting for.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In tonight's game.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Okay, right there, baby, got the Indiana T shirt on
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Let's go Hoosiers. Come on, boys, let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Indiana went to Oregon earlier this year and pretty much
just dominated the Ducks at the line of scrimmage in
that game.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Do you see the same thing happening again tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
No, By the way, Hugh Noah Whittington questionable for this
game tonight. They've got some other running backs, including Davidson,
that are out for tonight's game. So what do you
think is going to happen here in Atlanta in the
next half hours?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Though? Well, Oregon's healthier at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think Dante Moore was shockingly non competitive in that game.
He just looked like he had no fire. He looked
like he had no answer. We're talking about a home game,
obviously against the Hoosiers, but the Hoosiers, you know, I'll
quote Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer said that what the coaching
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job that has been done at Indiana is the greatest
coaching job in the history of college football. You know,
I don't know how much Urban studied that, but I
you know, passes my sniff tests, and so I think
that what you see is an Indiana team that you
just have to keep constantly reminding yourself it's not Indiana, right.
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They have those classic red and white number. You got
to think of them as Alabama or Oklahoma or Nebraska
or some of these other teams. I know their shades
are red, but they have an NFL secondary and I
think that they are coached like a few teams I've seen.
I believe that they have the number one overall pick
in the draft at quarterback, and so I would expect
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it's going to be more of the same. I'll be
surprised if Oregon comes out of this thing with a win.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I would as well.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
But if they do come out with a win, did
the right team win for us last night as far
as as far as a better chance to knock out Oregon?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
And was that play of the game pass interference in
your mind?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh, it's absolutely past interference, And uh, you know, I
don't I don't understand. I really don't understand the idea. Hey,
let the players play on the last play of the game.
So you're telling me that I hate to use Lebron
because I'm not a fan of Lebron, but Lebron drives
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down the lane with with four seconds to go in
Game seven and the Lakers are down by one, and
he goes up and he clearly gets hit on the wrist. Uh,
you're telling me that you're just going to swallow the
whistle and let the players play, And that's not letting
just letting the players violate the rules of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We see calls like that in the NBA all the time,
but we don't see him in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
On hell, Mary's you're right.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, But now I would say, look if it was
you know, a guy ran in motion and maybe he
went six inches forward, Okay, that's ticki tac. That that
didn't give you a material advantage. You know, a formation,
you know, one guy's got to be on the line
of screamage, one receiver's got to be off. Obviously the
defense isn't confused about who's eligible. Like, I'm not calling
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that on the last play of the game, five yards
you know, illegal formason. No, there's a there's a room
for excluding ticki tac plays. But when you're talking about
material materially affecting the game, then I think you have
to call that, and now in the NFL, obviously would
have been at the one yard line. It's only a
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fifteen yard penalty, but I think it's got to be
called here.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Millin's well, us, Hugh, Let's let's get to what's happening
this weekend in the NFL. Right, we're all sitting around
waiting to see who the Seahawks will play next weekend.
It'll be the Rams, It'll be the Panthers, it'll be
the forty nine ers, or it will be the Green
Bay Packers. I know you're not into predictions, right, You'd
never been into predictions as long as I've known you.
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But this Packer game with the Bears is intriguing to
me because that is a.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Number three seed Chicago, is that right, guys?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Bears versus a seventh seed, yet the seventh seed two seven?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The two versus a seven, yet the seven is the favorite.
Packers are given a point and a half. So obviously
Vegas thinks Green Bay is gonna win the game and
come to Seattle as the seventh seed next weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
How would surprise? Would you be shocked? Not surprised?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
If Jordan Love and company without Michael Parsons walked into
Soldier Field, knocked off the Bears and came to Seattle
next week.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I would think it's pretty close to a pick. And
what's the spread?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
One and a half?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think that in Jordan Love, you know,
he's had a concussion, he's been out. I think their
offense has has kind of hit the skids a little bit.
Clearly with Michael Parsons, they.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Don't have it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I think that that Caleb Williams has really ascended. You know,
you had a chance to win a game winner earlier,
he underthrows it, he gets in intercepted. Now he gets
into a same situation in in overtime and he and
he throws it farther and he throws a dime to
win the game. That guy, I think is all that
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he was dressed up to be as the number one
overall pick, and so I think he's playing with confidence,
you know, playing at home. I don't know. I don't
I would not say Green Bay is, you know, should
be a stark favorite in that game. I think the
Packers they've they got to find themselves because they really
limped into the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Hugh, I don't know what odds we could have gotten
in August if we'd have said Patrick mahomes, Lamar Jackson,
Joe Burrow are not playing in the playoffs and Josh
Allen's an underdog in the wild card round in the playoffs.
But it's astronomical. If you are Brandon Bean, the GM
of the Bills, are you immediately on the phone with
John Harbaugh. If Buffalo doesn't win as one and a
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half point dogs against Jacksonville on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, I'd be done. With Sean McDermott. Absolutely my language here,
I'd be done. You cannot waste this beautiful Hall of
Fame quarterback with just you know, they're just something missing.
And I think Harbrough's got enough chops he could put
them over the top. They just seem to always be
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kind of missing something. Now I will say, I'm a
I'm about as big a Bills fan as a guy
could be. They are my number two if the Seahawks
don't win it. I don't I don't understand the idea
that you can't have your primary team and then you
have your you know, your secondary or tertiary whatever the
word would be. Team. I might like more than one
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team and and I will if Seattle were to lose,
and I hope that doesn't happen. I hope we're doing
a parade in Seattle. Let me make that you know
perfectly clear. I shouldn't need to, but I'm a big
Bills fan for for a long time because Josh Allen's
my top three quarter favorite quarterbacks ever, and so I've
watched them close. They are always getting bit with the
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injury bug on their defense. It's like they can never
field healthy defense. It must drive the Bills fans crazy,
but they're a deserving fan base. They're certainly a deserving quarterback,
the player, the competitor, who he is. I'm buying everything
to Josh Allen's selling and if they you just said it, Dick,
think about this, you're talking about You just mentioned those
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are three of the premier quarterbacks of this generation and
they're not.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You don't even have to go through them.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And so if I'm a Bills fan, it's got to
be all gas, no breaks on this, And it would
be so devastating if they lose, and I would say
bye bye Sean mcturney, Yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Would I mean he probably fired the GM too.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He's the one that built the defense for God's sakes, right,
So probably just clean house. But hum Millin's with us
normally at five o'clock. We wanted to have mino bit
earlier today to react to Jetfish and get his thoughts
on the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And here was your old team, the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Am I right, guys and saying the Patriots had the
easiest schedule in the NFL this.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Year, one of the easiest guys in the last twenty
five years.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They ranked of schedule thirty seconds in the National Football
League and they're fourteen and three. They're obviously home taken
on Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers. And one of your
favorite guys, Huie Justin Herbert. Are we about to see
a paper tiger on display on Sunday night in Foxborough?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Great question. And on that note, I've had this on
my notes and all the shows. I've never got this.
In the Seahawks out of fourteen teams, they had the
second highest strength of victory, and strength of victory is
a tiebreaker in the NFL before strength of schedule. So
I think there was a time where there was a
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little bit of hand ringing, Oh, Seahawks can't beat anybody
of consequence. Let me see it again. Their strength of victory,
that does the win percentage of the teams they beat
had the second highest. Now the Rams had the highest,
but the Seattle was second.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So very.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Very commendable on their part on that regard. But yeah,
it certainly would seem possible that New England's somewhat like Seattle,
is maybe a year early. I know it's year one
with Vrabel there and Drake May has come on as
an MVP Canada. I think that the one concern from
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watching the Chargers, and I'm a big Justin Herbert fan,
is they lost their offensive line. You know, they had
two tackles like they can never protect. For Justin Herbert,
this guy gets has got hit more since he got
the league than anybody by far, and they often have
just kind of pedestrian receivers. And now Ladd mccomically, excuse me,
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Lad McConkey has been, you know, a nice little, you know,
smurf type guy work in the middle of the field
and what have you. But I still think that their
targets are are weak and their protection is weak. So
I understand why New England would be favored.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Ten days ago I thought the forty nine Ers would
have had a great chance to go into Philadelphia and
beat the Eagles. I kind of feel like Seattle might
have Oakham last week. What do you think, Hugh, do
they stand a decent chance on that one?
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I don't like saying it, but I got a lot
of respect for Kyle Shanahan. Remember now, the forty nine
Ers since twenty nineteen, that was Shanahan's third year. Uh,
they have the most wins in the NFC, and their
ability to be resilient is almost unprecedent when you consider
they're losing these guys that are Hall of Fame bound
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on both sides of the ball. But I do think
they're getting a little bit healthier. And do they have
their tackle He practiced.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Williams, he practiced.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And what about Pearsall He did not practice. So yeah,
I would say Philadelphia. Philadelphia has Let me just go
back to a year ago. Now, I was making the
argument that the Eagles supported Jalen Hurts better than any
team I've ever seen in the Super Bowl era. Let
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me explain what I mean. Let's just go by Pro
Football Focus, and again, every team in the NFL has
their subscription. The Eagles had the number one offensive line
in all Pro football, number one. They had the number
one tandem of receivers and DeVante Smith and aj Brown
number one. Okay, they had the number one defense, and
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they had Saquon Barkley, and they had I think a
godd It was like the eighth or ninth tight end.
If you'd asked me before last year what quarterback was
best supported by those terms, I would say the nineteen
eighty four San Francisco forty nine ers. We went fifteen
to one and beat the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
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And that team they had the number one defense at
Roger Craig. They had Jerry Rice and what have you.
But Joe Montana didn't have nearly as good offensive line
as Jalen Hurts had last year. So that's how good.
Howie Roseman is Jed Fish's college roommate, the GM of
the Eagles. They they had a tremendous roster. Now the
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offensive line has dipped a little bit, but they have
a ceiling that is exceedingly high when they get all
their parts together. You know, there's been a lot of
handwringing about Syrian and whether he's the guy but that
roster is so damn talented that I think that they're
capable of beating anybody, including the forty nine ers, including
the Seahawks, including the Rams, and including anybody out of
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the AFC. I don't want to happen, right because I
don't like them, right, But yeah, yeah, I tip.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
My hat they got they got a lot of horsepower.
Would you do me one quick favorite before you go?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Will you just just do as I ask for once
in your damn life. I'm just gonna ask you a
question and just don't give me this. I don't like prediction.
It's just tell me who the Hawks are playing next weekend? Packers, Bears, Rams, Pants, Panthers, Niners, Eagles.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Who's coming to town next Timeaturday? Rams? Rams? Got you?
You're the man, great stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
We'll talk next week, all right, I'm failing with us,
he says, the Rams are coming. Rams win and basically
everybody wins, the favorites, right, they all win. So the
Rams come to town next weekend to play Seattle, which
I think would be like, my god, imagine winning that
game next weekend, which I think is going to be
on Saturday. I know it just said Saturday. I think
it's going to be Saturday. Nothing guaranteed. Could be Sunday, obviously,
(19:26):
but that feels like the biggest roadblock, does it not,
at least for now to getting to a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I think it's the biggest roadblock in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It might be, it might be.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hey, you know what Richard Sherman said, the twenty thirteen
NFC Championship was the super Bowl. Maybe that game would
be like the super Bowl between the two best teams
in the NFL, and whoever wins it is gonna win
the whole friggin thing. A lot to get to. Hawks
coming up the game last night with all miss and
Missouri excuse me, all miss of Miami. The Hurricanes are
(19:56):
in Indiana, Oregon tonight. Jed Fish was with us earlier
to we got a lot to get to. Kevin Harlan
joins at five as well on ninety three three KJRFM,
now back.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
Point three JR.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
It's a situation where somebody is telling him to do
those things, then I don't I don't think that anybody
would be happy I think it is whatever Demand really
believes that he could do, whether it be I mean
you mentioned a donation or whatever it might be. I
don't want to tell somebody what to do. What I
want de Mond to do is I want the Mond
(20:38):
to continue to grow, to mature, and to be comfortable.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Us jet Fish with us about an hour ago. You
hear it again coming up at six pm tonight for
those getting in the car right now and those people
that have jobs and lives and couldn't be here at
three fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You're like, damn, I missed it. No, no, no, six pm tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And you know what if you missed that, you're hear
the podcast as well on the website.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
We'll send it out here. Just here to service you man.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That's what we're all about, just bending over frigging backwards
every day to service you people the best we can
and give you what you deserve. So Jedfish, we asked
if Demon's got some extra work, extra credit right after school,
homework to get done, to mend some fences, and you
heard what he said there. Doesn't want to tell him
what to do. He wants it to be organic from him.
(21:22):
And I mean, look, I honestly think and you asked
Tick about when Deman's going to talk, and from what
I'm understanding, that's not going to be anytime soon, like
in the next week or so.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It might not be in the next month or so.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
There's a part of me that thinks that demand's better
off staying off social media and just shutting her down
for a while. But I also think that there are
things that can be done behind the scenes that we
don't necessarily need to hear about right now. Right like
a phone call to Mia Hammond's mom and dad would
be severely appropriate.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
A donation.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Sitting down with the uw women's soccer team is sitting
down with his football teammates in the locker room kind
of a coming to Jesus. Anybody have any questions that
I can answer. I don't know if he cares enough
to do all of those things. I don't know if
the people around him care enough to have him do
all those things. My hope is that in the next
month or so, we ask Hey, what was done to
help mend defences and re establish trust and loyalty, and
(22:17):
he just rattles off four or five things that he.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Did, and we all say Hey, that's great, glad you
did that. Kid.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
No, absolutely, And I keep thinking, I know there are
people out there and rightfully so, that are angry and
think that, hey, Jedfish should have just excommunicated this kid.
And I mean I keep thinking how young he mentioned
how young demand was when Jedfish first met him.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
He was younger than my kid.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Now he's like fifteen years old when he so he
has had this is a long term, almost father son
type relationship he's had with this guy.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And why did Demon Williams go behind his back?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
That's a excelling questions for Demon.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Jed admitted to us on the air that he put
this post out what Tuesday night?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He had no idea, Yes, he had no idea.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
It's a guy who you just says a father figure
to Demon Williams and know since he's fourteen years old.
But DeMont told him nothing, nothing about this Instagram post,
which I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh there's a bush league move by Demon.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, Jed Fish has gone out of his way
to promote and market and pump up Demon Williams more
than any coach in Husky football history has ever done.
A backup quarterback that's correct, and this is the way
he gets treated.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I think so has ever done a starting quarterback, I
mean calling him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The face the program? I've never heard one.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Did he coach ever say there's a face of the program?
He did that before he was a starter, right, he
did that two years ago.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
But my point is, I don't even know if a
Husky coach has ever done that about a the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
But tick, you talk about how he's a nineteen year
old kid, I would say this, I think at the
point that a human being starts signing contracts worth millions
of dollars and the point where you become the face
of a multi million dollar football program, man, you better
mature the bleep upright, because I'm sorry then your excuses of.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh, I was just a young kid.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
No, and I was talking about when he first met him,
like the depth of the relationship.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I totally understand your point.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
You're talking about it right now, and there's a lot
of people right now saying, forgive him, he's a young kid.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
That goes out the window. When you do all of
these things, you're no longer in nineteen mid old. When
you do all these things you're you have to mature.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, well, how many times did we say in the
last couple of years. If they start paying players, then
players are going to start being treated like pros.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, by the media, by the fans.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Okay, So I'm just kind of just just throwing this
out there, all right, stream of consciousness whatever. So either
a we can just say, okay, that now is appropriate
to talk about college kids like that and expect college
kids to act a certain way and to be mature
beyond their years.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Or we can just admit that we are giving money
to kids. That's it. We're just if we're going.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
To give money, we still remember their nineteen We don't
expect anything more out of him.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's on us.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And if we don't feel comfortable getting money to kids,
that we don't give money to kids. I mean, part
of the problem here, I think, is that you're asking
a nineteen year old kid to be an adult when
he's not a freaking adult. Right.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
But I also think a nineteen year old kid, usually
in a college setting, certainly has more of a support
group around him helping him out than a twenty four
year old NFL multi millionaire that's living on his own.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I see I thought you're going to say a regular
twenty four year old, just some twenty four year old,
not just comparing.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I'm comparing the mistakes a nineteen year old college kid
would make to a mistakes that like a third year
NFL pro would make, like going to.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Jail or you know, getting suspended or what.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I think you would think that a nineteen year old
kid would have more of a motherly and fatherly figure
still influencing than a twenty four year old.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Right here, And I think yes, And I think the
college environment fosters more of a hey, we got to
protect these kids because they're still kids versus an enna
felt teams like this is a business man, what you
do on your own time is on you.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I don't think anybody's wrong here, Jackson Dick. I mean,
I mean, I think your point Jackson, about hey, this
is what comes along with money. I mean, if you're
going to start getting into a situation where you're asking
people to give you millions of dollars a year, then
you better be prepared to have a higher standard of
expectation that falls upon you, period. And the story and
that I absolutely agree with, and if you're not ready
(26:26):
to take people's money. If you're not ready to take
millions of dollars for people, then you're not ready for
it yet. But I mean again, the guy's making like
we all know what he's making now. Yeah, So demon
Williams goes out there next year and plays bad, this
is what.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We're getting for four million whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Let's hope to god the guy plays, you know well
enough to avoid that stuff. And I think there are
certain ways that you talk about a football player in
the pros versus a football player in college. And now
that college players are making money, I will be honest
with you, I feel way more at ease going after
these guys when they're when they're making a lot more
money than they ever were. And by the way people
(27:06):
have mentioned, like, for example, I called them on Williams
a prick. You know why I called him a prick
because of the me, because of the Mia Hammond thing.
That's why I called him a prick. I've ben to
call him prick for leaving Washington. Look if he would
have left UDUB a week ago before he signed his
NIO and just said, you know what, this is not
for me. Whatever, Hey, I'm not happy, trust me. But
there's nowhere near the vitriol. I think that we had
(27:28):
a week ago, so I've had a lot of people
reach out to me. He said, well, I'd just say
that because he did it during a freaking memorial service
for a young woman that just died of cancer.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
How far up your butt.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Does your head need to be to realize that the
entire team is there, your coaches are there, your head
coaches there. And that was a bad idea, and that
really irritated me. I mean again, maybe I'm in the
wrong for thinking like that. It's I mean, it's my emotion,
it's my opinion. I feel like I'm entitled to it.
But that is why I called him what I called
(28:01):
him because of the mia ham At angle, not anything else.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think that's what a lot.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Of people who are kind of just you know, trying
to defend him is being critical of people like us
Softie and maybe Dick two. But they're saying, like, why
are you so angry with this kid?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Lead.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
I think what everybody who's against us needs to understand
is the timing of this is as important, I think
as as just the announcement in general, Considering that all
of his teammates and coaches found out about this at
the ceremony on social media. If you can close your eyes,
folks and imagine, god, you are at a funeral service
(28:36):
or at a celebration of life for a important person
in your life or important person in the loved one's life,
and at the event you find breaking news about another
family member or something on social media.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
How is that gonna make you feel? Terrible?
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Terrible? And I just feel, like I told Jackson, I was.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
You know, Gene is watching ted Lasso now because she
finally decided, like three years later, it's time to watch it, right,
So she's watching it. Remember the scene where all the
guys in the locker room they call them locker rooms
in the in the Premier League, by the way, and
they're all on their phones and everybody's phone starts going
off at the same time.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
We got Zava.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
We got Zava, right, I mean, can you imagine being
at that service and you look down, you see all
these players in the stands and boom, all of a sudden,
they start grabbing their phones, like what the hell's going
on during this thing? So that that that really really
bugged me. But we're kind of through that now. We're
over that now. Now the question is, whatever scars, whatever wounds,
(29:29):
came out of the last couple of days, how long
will it take for them to heal? How likely are
people to kind of move on. I'll be honest with you,
I can already sense the temperature coming down a little bit,
even since last night and two or three days ago.
I do agree with you, Dick, that time heals all wounds.
But then we're gonna get to the season. Then the
(29:49):
season's gonna come, and then he's gonna be in the spotlight.
What's gonna happen for the next eight months is that
demon Williams is probably gonna go away, right, He's gonna
go away.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's not gonna be on social media. He's not gonna
do a lot of stuff with the media.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Maybe he does his own little press conference and then
that's maybe it until fall camp. But for the most part,
he's gonna go away, and then the season's gonna start,
and then he's back in the spotlight, and then what happens.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's the question for me.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
It was a flesh wound to start with.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I mean, on a scale of one to ten, and
ten being the most angry you could get I was
like A two, So I mean I it does. It's
not gonna take me long to heal from this. As
far as what demand does, I mean, I think we
have enough data on demand to know exactly how he's
going to play against teams ranked fiftieth through one hundredth
(30:37):
in college football. Guys off, the only question is the
three games we play against teams ranked one through twenty
five in college football. Is he gonna be able to
get through at least one of those games and lead
us to a ten and two record?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
To tell you what, that's what it's gonna take to
make the playoff.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Tayler's gonna suck as if he struggles and Sam Levitt
goes to Tennessee and tears it up. Next year, we're
gonna break textimonials yet next segment, and then Kem Harlan's
going to join on five normally on Wednesday, but we
had a little basketball game Wednesday, So Kevin Harlan, who's
got the Texans and Steelers on radio by the way,
on Monday, I think he's doing Michigan Wisconsin for TV
tomorrow as well. He'll join us at five on ninety
(31:12):
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