November 10, 2025 • 39 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain reflect on the impact of Lenny Wilkens then discuss the Seahawks domination over the Cardinals and Huskies disappointment in Wisconsin, before the guys share a Fact or Fiction pick and react to Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Were we go absolute disaster, I would say for Washington,
would just say disaster for the Sounders as well. Okay,
so at least the Hawks got the job done. My god,
at least they took care of business against Arizona. And
I think all of us were kind of thicking before
the game. This is gonna be a slog fest. It's
gonna be a low scoring game. Arizona's getting seven and
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a half. And the Hawks just said, noope, noop, noop,
We're gonna go out there and just beat their ass,
just like we did the Commanders last week in Washington,
d c. And just like we did the New Orleans
Saints in Week three at lumen Field. Earlier this year,
I got a buddy of mine who was at both
the Saint game and the Arizona game, and they were
both scoring thirty eight points at half in both those games.
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So I told this guy, he's actually a kook. I said,
you want to go to a couple of dog games
for me. By the way, I get you tickets.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
For the Orton game. You want to go check that out,
for God's sake.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So anyway, we got a lot to get to short show.
We got Packers Eagles coming up kickoff five fifteen. Pregame
at five with Kevin Harry. He was in town doing
the game yesterday, jumped on a bird back to Green
Bay for the game tonight, so you get to hear
Kevin's voice on TV, yesterday's voice on radio again tonight.
We got the Huskies just completely falling all over themselves,
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fumbling everything that they had in their possession, giving the
game away in a lot of ways to Wisconsin. Dick
on Saturday afternoon, What shout about that? The passing of
Lenny Wilkins which took place. It was announced during the
Seahawk game on Sunday. We got a special tribute to
him coming up at four point thirty this afternoon. A
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few minutes of an interview that we did with Lenny
about three years ago, right Jackson twenty twenty two. We
caught up with Lenny talking about family, basketball, the city
of Seattle, the whole thing. And I will just say
this because I want to keep the majority of my
thoughts on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Dick for four thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But there may not have been a bigger name in
the history of Seattle sports until Ken Griffy Junior showed
up than Lenny Wilkins. And when you just go buy
one name, when you say Lenny, and people know who
you're talking about. And I don't know if there's been
a name that's effected a bigger swath of generations than
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Lenny Wilkins, going back to the nineteen sixties, the nineteen seventies,
the eighties, has worked to desperately try and get the
team back in Seattle. He never gave up, He never
stopped dreaming about this basketball team coming back. He is,
in two words, mister basketball. In my opinion, when it
comes to the two six, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
When we were growing up, he was number one. I
think Steve Largent was probably number two. But there was
probably a gap between Lenny and Steve Largin just because
of like you said, the different generations. I mean, Lenny
was just as important to my ninety three year old
dad as he was to me he was fifty one
because I'd never remembered him as a player. I only
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remembered him as the first coach and the coach that
led my team to the championship where he he remembered
him all the way back into playing in college. So
I mean, just watching his Hall of fame career and
then turning into a Hall of Fame coach. And I
think I was driving in thinking about Lenny and there
were three words that popped into my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Old school class.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
There's guys with class, and then there's like that old
school like nineteen fifties class.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's like class with you know, in emphasis.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's what every time I talked to Lenny Wilkins, every
time off the air, on the ear, it's just that
class that exuded from him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, he was, he was.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What's the old commercial with the the he talks people. Yes, Clutton, Yes, yes,
everybody wanted to hear what Lenny Wilkins had to say. Everybody,
any basketball related topics, sonic related topic, you'd want to
get Lenny's taken.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He never said no, never said no.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know, if you call him up and he says
I can't do it, he'll give you a time of
day or a week that he can do it. So
he was absolutely, as you said, class personified a guy
that we're going to miss in, a guy that you know,
heartbreaking that we couldn't get this thing back in time
for him to see it. This is exactly why I
get frustrated when things like this drag on. It's exactly
why I get frustrated when things like the Hall of
Fame for Mike Homegrin drag on, because not all of
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us have forever. Nobody does, and some of us have
less time than others left on this thing. And the
fact that we could not make this happen so Lenny
could see the return is absolutely heartbreaking, and it makes
me angry to think that Lenny Wilkins is not going
to be there physically. He'll be there in spirit, obviously,
but the fact that he's not going to be there
physically to see this when it does come back, it's
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not going to make it the same.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We're losing too many.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're losing too many of these people that have played
a major role in Seattle's love for the NBA and
Seattle's love for Sonic basketball. And it's about time we
get this thing done asap so we don't lose anymore.
So we'll hear from Lenny coming up at four twenty
eight today. Get to the Huskies in a minute. But man, guys,
it's really hard to not start losing your mind over
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Seahawk football. What they did yesterday against an Arizona football
team that beat the Cowboys on Monday night in Dallas.
We're all sitting around thinking, Hey, these guys might be
better off with Brissette than they are with Kyler Murray.
And the Seahawks turned them into a joke. They turned
them into an absolute joke. And I think, I think,
what's starting to happen if it hasn't happened already? And
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this is I go back to the loss to Tampa Bay.
What was the score of that game? Was it thirty
eight thirty five? Thirty eight thirty five? And you and
I are on the air from the Emerald Queen that
day and we're talking about the defense and ah, they're
banged up and all that, and I remember just looking
at you and saying, you know what, I thought that
when Mike McDonald was hired, the star of the show
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was going to be the scheme. Remember how many times
we said that the star of the show is going
to be Mike McDonald and his defensive mind. And they
were banged up again yesterday, right Jaron Reid was out,
Julian Love was out, Ernest Jones was out. Didn't matter,
didn't matter. I mean, it's getting to be almost borderline
ridiculous that there's two things.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Going on I find ludicrous.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Number one the fact that Jackson Smith that Jigba keeps
putting up stupid numbers and nobody can stop him.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Nobody.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Like when we talked to Hugh at four o'clock today,
I want to ask him, like, do you think that
Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald are waiting for defenses to
do something against Jackson Smith and Jigba and they're either
not doing it or they're doing it and they still
find ways to beat him. I mean, I'm looking, I'm
honestly waiting for a defense dick to play press against
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this guy and for someone to literally grab his face
mask and throw him to the ground on the line
of scrimmage, because that seems to be the only way
people can stop this kid. It's insane what Jackson Smith's
and Jigba is doing. And then the defense, it doesn't matter.
Who's hurt doesn't matter, doesn't matter, if your best linebacker's out,
doesn't matter, if your best defensive back is out, doesn't matter,
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if your best interior defender, whatever, anybody, it doesn't matter.
They could take all eleven guys put him on the sideline,
bring eleven guys in from the stands, okay, like Star
Wars with the Clone Troopers, and just replace them, replace them,
replace them, and they would just keep destroying people.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What this defense is doing is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And honestly, guys, this Sunday against the Rams, I don't
know if I've ever been this excited for a coaching
matchup Sean mcvay's offense against Mike McDonald's defense on Sunday.
And how many times have we said, and we said
this going into the twenty thirteen NFC Championship game, and
we said it, we admitted it going into the twenty
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twenty three UUB Michigan game, that if you can, you
always want the defense. You always want the killer defense
over the killer offense. And now we're going to get
another chance to see what happens this weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, then you talk about that Tampa game, Tampa Bay game,
such an outlier that game was. And other than that game,
you know, there's only one team that has scored twenty
points against the Seahawks all season one, Cardinals, and that's.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The AARs on the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right now, now, let's twice and let's keep it in god,
let's keep it in context.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They're the only other team that scored twenty. But let's
see how they got to twenty. It was twenty to
six Seattle with six.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Minutes left to go in the first game they played
him twenty to six, right, So the Cardinals scored kind
of two meaningless touchdowns at the end to get to twenty,
and then yesterday everything they did was meaningless in the
second half. So in reality, they've really only allowed twenty
or more toll one team, and that's Baker Mayfield in
the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
For any measure of competitive games.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, well, i'd have to go back and compare to
the rest of the NFL. But I'm just going to
make a statement here and it could be complete nonsense
and bs in which most of what I say is anyway,
So what's the difference. I wonder if this is the
best team in the NFL in the last seventeen games,
meaning this year and then going back to last year,
because you remember the bye. Remember the bye was a
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year ago. They lost that overtime game at home to
the Rams. Remember that game, and then they had to
buy And that's the year or the week where I
think it was Julian Love and somebody else may have
come out and said that they had this meeting and
they said, like this crap ends now, remember that, right,
And people have said that that's where the defense kind
of got figured out, the communication got figured out. We
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should go back to our preseason interviews that we did.
I'm pretty sure it was Julian Love that we had
on Jackson, either in late July or August, who told
us that bye week is when everything began to click. Well,
they're thirteen and four and their last seven game seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Eagles I think are the only ones with better read
since then six seventeen and three more games.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, so they are.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They are amongst the best teams in the National Football League.
They're thirteen and four since the bye last year, and
three of the four losses I believe have come by
four points or less. I mean, that's how close they
are to be in sixteen and one in their last
seventeen games, and god, I mean you start to think,
is this like people keep saying this reminds me of
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the twenty twelve Well does it? Maybe it reminds you
the twenty thirteen year. Yeah, that's the comparable team, right, maybe.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It reminds you that they could win the whole freaking thing.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, we had a really great back and forth
yesterday during the game of what a theoretical game between
the thirteen team and this team, and it's an actual
like you can say the ridiculous conversation, but it's an
actual thought of how competitive this team would be right
against the greatest team of all time.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well, the only and the only reason why I mentioned
in twenty twelve is just because remember the end of
the year, they were just murdering everybody, Arizona fifty eight nothing,
Buffalo and Toronto fifty to seventeen, the Niners that kicked
their ass forty two to thirteen. They were just unstoppable
in the final month of the year. But this is
happening in November. This is not happening in December. And
it's happening in the second year of a coach's tenure,
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not the third year of a coach's tenure. I mean, look,
Pete Carroll spent a couple of years kind of trimming
this thing down to the studs, and it obviously worked
out tremendously. But how many times have we said the
NFC's wide open. How many times have we said that,
just like the American League, this whole thing is there
for the taking. I mean, nobody seems to this thing.
The Buffalo Bills are like, we need to implode them.
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It's unbelievable what's happening in Buffalo. So in the wards
are Russell Wilson guys, why not us?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah? Why not us?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean, tell me, honestly, why why why can't this
team win the They can't run the ball?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Is that why? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, it doesn't matter. They can't run the ball, it
doesn't matter. They they got guys hurt, it doesn't matter.
Maybe eventually Dickett catches up.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, every team they're competing with has got an achilles heel,
so it's not like there's any even close to perfect
team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So there's no reason why they couldn't win it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I look back at twenty thirteen, there was an
anomaly in the beginning of that season. Two remember the
Indianapolis game they lost thirty four to twenty eight. All
the other games they're holding teams to seven three seventeen thirteen.
I mean, Tampa, it's it's very that's our Tampa. That
the only thing. And I am not pouring water on
this thing. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna throw. I'm
just gonna throw something out.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wow, I'm not gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I'm gonna simply ask a question. Okay, I'm gonna ask
a question. What is their record against teams with winning records?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know, but I would just tell us first,
I've beaten San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Excuse me, they have beaten Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They have lost to San Francisco in Tampa Bay, and
they've beaten Jacksonville. If you consider that a really good
team with a winning record, they're like two and two.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I would like you. I would like you. If you're
going to peek on the parade, I'm just listen.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You asked me why. I'm giving you a reason. Stractive
schedule has not been good.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Whether you elected or not, you did pee on the parade,
and at your age, sometimes it just flies out. I
get that, But how many teams out there really have
a great record against winning teams at.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Not a lot?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Not a lot?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean that's kind of again, that's how you do it, right.
We talk about baseball, we talk about it in the NFL.
You want to win twelve thirteen games, you got to
beat up on the slop and just hold serve against
the good teams and hope you're healthy. I mean, honestly,
the team that maybe has surprised me the most this year,
and see if you can guess the team I'm thinking
of the team that surprised me the most and that's impressed.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Me the most. New englandis Detroit. Detroit.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You and I both thought they were done with their schedule.
I thought, yeah, I remember, thought they would lose. I
thought they'd win like ten games this year. We thought
they were done. Dude, finished fifteen last year and they're
eight and two the two games they've lost.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Do you think the Colts are good? Yes, think the
Rams are good. Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
They've lost those games by four points combined. Four points combined,
pretty good. I mean, you might have two of the
best teams in the NFC might be Detroit and it
might be Seattle. I mean, I think, you know, instead
of saying the NFC is wide open, which I think
it is, I don't think it's wide open though, because
there's just a bunch of crap like there was in
the American League. I think there's a lot of good
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teams in the NFC. Philadelphia is good, Tampa's good. Packers
are good, the Lions are good, the Hawks are good,
the Rams are good.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Hell, the Bears might be good.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
There's like four or five good teams their six Super Bowl.
Is there Super Bowl contender teams in the NFL? Yes, no, yes,
And we're one of them, and we're one of them.
We are absolutely one of them. So again, if they
can just find a way to run the ball. We've
been saying that for a long time. It really does
feel like if I'm throwing some water on the on
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the parade here, I'll admit that if there's one thing
they're really gonna want to try and do, it's run
the damn ball. Because what they'll try and do is
get the lead, and this is obvious.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I know that, and then not make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And I realize that Sam Darnold's turnovers, I mean, god,
go back and look at his last four turnovers here, Man,
I got a theory best time to throw a pick
because when you're up thirty eight to seven. Yeah, all right,
so this is the goofiest turnovers. Wells helmets, unless we
are in the Tampa Bay one and the one against
San Francisco, which you can't do that, but you're right.
I mean, he has a fumble yesterday up thirty five nothing,
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he has a pick yesterday up thirty eight to seven.
He has a fumble yesterday up thirty eight to fifteen,
and a pick against the Commanders up thirty one to seven.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Those are where hiss like, I get him out of
your system. I saw this.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So this knucklehead tweeting, well, this's Geno's got the exact
same number of turnovers. Okay, and what's the score of
those games that down fifty eight to five?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's I guess.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yes, Wow, they're still left out. Well, just because people
don't look at context. Guys, they don't look at context.
And you said it kind of maybe trying to be sarcastic,
but I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'd rather just get him out.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Now, get him out when you'reup thirty eight to seven,
Get out who thirty eight to fifteen?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Do it? Cough them up, man, I bee.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You believe that if you throw an interception that either
a your receiver drops and it hits off the hands
and goes into a defender, or it deflects off of
something like a helmet that should not count as an
interception in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, I mean Millan would tell you arm slide where
he didn't play quarterback in the NFL, throwing things like that.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I get it, but it's really hard to not get
excited about what this team is capable of getting done.
And I mean, look the game yesterday, the fact that
Jackson Smith and Jigba did what he did in the
first quarter.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
How predictable though? Was the second half?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean you're just kicking their ass.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You're not gonna win sixty two to three in the
NFL that would have been fun. Yeah, they hung seventy,
but they they shut her down, Yes, right, they shut
her down a little bit, you know, And it's predictable
what happened. Butnmarcus Lawrence stepping up the way he did? Tyokatta,
are you kidding me? With this guy? Ne Am I
A Pritchett yesterday with the play he made in the
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end zone. Drake Thomas, I dude, I guarantee you there's
still some Seahawk fans that watch these games and have
no idea who these guys are.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, that's right, and they're kind of slowly jumping on
the wagon.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But if you look at the records for next week,
it's fourteen and four seven to two against seven to two.
It is the best record wise matchup. Now, you can
argue whether it's a better matchup than the Eagles Lions.
You can argue whether it's a better matchup than the
Chiefs Broncos. I get why it wasn't flexed, but it
is a fabulous game. We're gonna get to break it
down all week long. But my first gut, and I
think back to something that Jackson said last week that
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AM's defense.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Dude, that's good, really good.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I don't know how either team so as ours
puts a lot of points on the round.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I agree. I mean, I saw the over under in
this game. What is it? Forty eight and a half.
We're taking it under. We're taking it. We're taking the
under factor fiction. It's done. I mean, I'm not not
even gonna make a listen the window.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The window doesn't open until three thirty five, so you
can't text for fifteen minutes, Tex and you can you
can lock it in right now, all right, We're taking
the in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I mean, the only thing about the Rams game that
scaresy is the Hawks have not played well. They're three
and six the last nine games. But I will also
tell you this, and guys, I'll be truthful. I'm thinking
about going down there on Sunday. Oh cool, I'm thinking
about taking off Saturday morning going down there. Never been
to Sofi Stadium. If I can find a you know,
reasonable flight, I might just find my ass down there
to watch that game. There's gonna be opportunities for Seahawk
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fans to get tickets and flood that place on Sunday.
Don't you have to work on Saturday. I do Saturday,
but not to play like in the Sunday morning take
off Sunday morning, landed ten, go watch the game, come home.
I mean, what the hell It's like two hours to
get down there, right, So yeah, I could take a price.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I'm looking right now.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Venue Kings dot Com to get in the door for
the Seahawk Rams game on Sunday is one hundred and
thirty eight dollars, So it's not it's not cheap, but
it's also not crazy either.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
By the lot of Seahawks fans in that stadium.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Nickens for the Wisconsin game to get in the door
were five bucks at kickoff on Saturday, which makes it
even more painful that we lost to those guys. But
so yeah, there's there's a chance for Seahawk fans to
go down there and really flood that place. Remember the
NFC Championship they played a couple of years ago against
the Niners. How many Niner fans were there in that stadium?
They don't care. I would love if I don't go
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to the game, to be able to turn on TV
and see twenty thousand Seahawk fans in the stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, the five prices aren't that bad, depending on what
that's a great idea, soft Y, Yeah, I mean for
all Sea fans out there, it's next to lax, so
you can simply fly in and fly out and it's
like a five five.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Uber, Right, get an uber, jump on down there, watch
the game go on. I don't know, Man three twenty
one got a lot to get to factor fiction. You
know the pick, but we're gonna give it to you
officially in about fourteen minutes. The Huskies, oh my god,
they cannot handle prosperity.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Simply put.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think we've realized that they cannot handle some teams
can't handle adversity, they can't handle prosperity. I think instead
of complimenting them and talking about how great they are
and going what a great job Jed's done, look at
them now a year and a half into year or
two they're ranked. I think instead we should just go
on the ear and talk about how much they suck
every single day, even if they win.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No chance against produced. No, no, they are cooked.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
They're cooked, Play Oregon cooked, UCLA cook, Bull Game cooked.
They stink, man, because nothing else is working with these guys.
We're gonna break and come back and talk about it
because we have to. Next on ninety three to three
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Speaker 8 (19:53):
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Speaker 6 (20:07):
All Right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I'm busy Monday.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We got Eagles, we got Packers, five fifteen, kick off,
five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Pregame right here on KJR.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
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Speaker 2 (20:25):
Get to that.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Coming up, hu Melon four, we're gonna hear one of
our previous interviews three years ago from Lenny Wilkins, who
announced yesterday had passed away at the age of eighty
eight years old. So our tribute to him coming up
in about an hour from now on the radio station.
But Huskies lose at Madison thirteen to ten on Saturday afternoon,
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and look, when you think it's going to be a
close game, which I think a lot of us felt
a little bit nervous about the line.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes it was ten and a half. Is that right?
When it was all said and done.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We looked at that and said, yeah, this is gonna
be a low scoring it's going to be a slog.
The weather's not going to be great. Wisconsin's defense is
actually pretty good. They're getting a little bit of a
reprieve with the schedule. They played three of the top
five defenses in the country in the last three weeks.
And if it's a close game, then mistakes can matter, right,
and the Huskies let mistakes matter.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean I think you tweeted it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We talked about it postgame that Washington basically dictated everything
in that game, from the positive to the negative.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
They gave Wisconsin everything they had.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Everything Wisconsin had was courtesy of a gift from U Doub.
I mean, let's go back at the first scoring drive
for Wisconsin. U Doub's facing fourth and five from their
own ten and they line drive a punt that Wisconsin
takes to the forty three. They need fourteen yards and
they get a field goal. Second scoring drive, they're at
their own seven after a demand fumble that led to
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an easy touchdown for Wisconsin. Third scoring drive, they're at
their own seven. They punt terribly to the thirty six
yard line, and Wisconsin ends up getting three. I mean,
it was just special teams disaster after special teams disaster.
Only reason why they were even in the game was
because of a special team's mistake by Wisconsin that led
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to a block punt by Anthony Ward that led to
a touchdown two plays later to Denzel Boston. So you're
gonna give Wisconsin's terrible offense short fields and giveaway free points,
then you're.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Gonna lose the game.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And this is another game where look, you can argue
about Wisconsin's defense.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You can argue this.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You can argue that they didn't show up offensively, whether
because of injuries, offensive line, Joonah Coma, whatever, Demon was
terrible in the game on Saturday, and I think there's
criticism for Jed. I think there's room for criticism for
the play. There's room for criticism for decisions. Nobody should
be immune from what we saw on Saturday afternoon, Dick
(22:49):
in Madison.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Nobody. We saw special teams trifecta.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How often do you get your punt blocked, your field
goal blocked, and you get a fake punt executed against
you right for a first down? I mean, add on
that shanked punts, add on to that an illegal fair catch,
so you start a drive at the five yard line.
It was a special team's disaster. And then on demand. Man,
(23:14):
you have got to know going into this game, the
other team can't score if you have to make them
go full field. You cannot be running around in your
backfield with the ball in one hand out there like
a loaf of bread. You cannot be throwing balls over
the top into traffic, into harms way.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And that is exactly what he did. As much as I.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Love Demond Williams, he just puts the ball in harms
way too many times, particularly away from Husky Stadium.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, look, I think he's nineteen years old. I understand it.
There's a lot in his plate, maybe too much, Dick,
to be honest with you, on his plate, and maybe
now more so with the injuries they've had. I mean,
let's face it, you know, Roebuck is a nice young player,
but he's not what you're looking.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
For in a real number two. Not on a good team. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jonah Coleman's not running the ball well for whatever reason,
whether him or scheme or offensive line being banged up, whatever.
So they have no consistent running game, and they have
no consistent group of wide receivers that can help the
guy out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
He's got no tight end at all. He's got no
tight end on this roster.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So they're probably, to be fair putting too much on
his plate. But a year into this, and he started
obviously the Oregon game a year ago, we're almost a
year into it now. Making that mistake in that situation
he can't do. And look, I mean, nobody's going to
deny that. Demon Williams has the ability to be a
(24:39):
great player down the road, but he's not that yet
at all.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He's not even close to a great player yet.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
He's a massively inconsistent player that shows up at home
and for whatever reason, has not been able to put
together a solid four quarters yet on the road. I mean,
the only half he's got is the second half of Maryland.
Everything else is a train wreck, to be honest with you,
So until that changes, this is going to be at
most an eight or a nine win team. Maybe maybe
(25:07):
at most an eight or a nine win team. And
then for Jed, real quick, guys, look, I just think this.
I think the straight line back is not or the
lineback is not straight. There's gonna be ups, it's gonna
be downs, And the longer you get into this, the
less the fans will be patient and be willing to
forgive games like what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think for now, I'm willing to look at it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
As just a big setback for you, Dub and not
a trend for Washington. But I'm telling you, if we're
sitting here in a year from now, or hell, if
we're sitting here in two weeks from now, against you
talking about a loss, then you got a trend, and
then you got a problem, and then at that point
you got to start to ask yourself. We have a
(25:49):
bigger issue here that needs to be rooted out. Factor
fiction right now, where's that to go?
Speaker 9 (25:55):
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number five scoring defenses in the National Football League against
the Rams and the Seahawks. Mike McDonald versus Sean mcvay's offense,
(26:40):
a defense that seemingly doesn't really give a damn who's healthy.
They just kick somebody's ass no matter what. Every single weekend.
Matt Stafford's on fire, have you seen his numbers, by
the way, the last like eight weeks for him, he
has been absolutely unbelievable. And now if you look at
the Vegas odds, Dick, by the way, Matt Stafford is
(27:01):
the new favorite to win the MVP. Matt Stafford going
back to September the twenty eighth, So week number four
has twenty touchdowns and zero interceptions. Twenty and zero going
back to week four. All good things must come to
an end. I think he gets held down. I don't
have any idea who the hell wins the game on Sunday,
(27:23):
but I don't think either quarterback is going to be
able to go out there and just slights that opposing
defensive part. When you mentioned the total, almost fell out
of my chair forty eight and a half, which basically
in essence means they gotta score fifty points combined. I
don't see it. I see a twenty three to seventeen
game on Sunday. Give us the under forty eight and
a half in the Hawk's rans, exactly right. We're gonna
(27:44):
see a lot of punts in this game. We're gonna
see a lot of stalled drives in this game. Some
field goals in this game. I don't think we're gonna
see it's a lot of touchdowns in this game. And
you know what Byron Murphy said about Jacoby Brissett calling
him a sitting duck yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
That's the one thing that can be said about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Matthew Stafford getting out of hairy situations with his legs.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So if you can have any semblance of a.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Pass rush on Sunday that you had this week and
last week, Matthew Stafford's gonna get sacked four or five
times in that football.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Matt Stafford since Week number four is five and one
with a sixty eight percent completion rate, twenty touchdowns, zero interceptions,
and a passer rating of one hundred and twenty two.
He has been unbelievable and he is now He's the
new flavor of the month, right. I mean, first it
was Baker Mayfield, then it was Daniel Jones, and it
(28:33):
was maybe Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Now it's Matt Stafford. I mean, who will it be
next week?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Every single week there's a new flavor of the day
in the NFL. So we're taking the Hawks minus excuse me,
the under forty eight and a half in the Hawks
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more at four. Our tribute to Lenny, who passed away
over the weekend at the age of eighty eight, will
(28:58):
come at four thirty on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's now time for something in Dick's fun with audio.
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Speaker 9 (29:10):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
All right, let's get right to it Heremillen joins us
at four o'clock today, A little more at four with Hugh.
Our tribute to Lenny Wilkins, by the way, coming up
at four point thirty this afternoon, right now though a
little fun.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
With audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Let's start with Sacramento King's head coach Doug Christie, former
Rainer Beach Stars.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Who was born and raised in Seattle, was overcome with
emotion at a press conference yesterday as he spoke about
the memory of basketball legend Lenny Wilkins and his love
for Lenny's Sonics teams as a kid.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I just want to send out a lot of love
to Lenny Wilkins and his family. A kid from Seattle,
seventy nine championship and he probably doesn't even know that
without him, I'm not here. So a lot of blessings,
a lot of busses. Being from Seattle, you know, the
(30:10):
Sonics were everything, and you know, being a kid in
the Rainier Valley is is pretty tough. So one day
on the bus, you were you're riding down and you
look over and I think it was Franklin High School.
I'm sitting on the bus. We're going downtown. We would
always bus ride, you know. It was it was raining
(30:33):
like most times. Looked out the window. I'm like, damn,
here comes to Rose Royce and it was it was
Gus Williams, and I just said, I don't know what
he's doing.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
First of all, is great tribute by him. Number one.
Number two.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Uh, maybe I'm crazy, but god, he sounds just like
Lorenzo Rome.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He kind of does when he does it is amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And then number three. You gotta remember Doug Christie when
the Sonics won the NBA title, was nine years old.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like right, smack the Wheelhouse fandom.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
You're nine.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
These guys are gods. You're collecting cards, you're going to games,
You're doing the whole thing. I think he's again, Dick,
not to be repetitive, but I think he's the biggest
basketball figure this town has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think you're right, Doug.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
When Doug won that state championship in eighty eight with
Rainier Beach, I mean that was the year of Dale Ellis,
Tom Chambers.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
And the X Man.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean that is three.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I mean that is so wheelheuse he's four years older
than I am and just Wheelhouse man.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, good for him. We're gonna hear from Lenny again.
It's about four thirty today, he Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Giants kicker Graham Gano spoke with New York media late
last week, uh this is before his coach got fired,
by the way, and shared how sports gambling has affected
his life, including after suffering an injury recently.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Unbelievably frustrating me so all I want to do is
play football, So I think that's frustrating. I hear everyone
else's frustration. Media fans, I get the I mean, shoot,
ever since sports betting started happening, I get people telling
me to kill myself every week, and you know, because
I'll hit a kick that loses them money, I'll miss
a kick and lose them money. It was the other day,
(32:21):
shod I told me to get cancer and die. So
I mean that that stuff's part of it. But just
being like playing this long, that stuff you're used to
it by now. So with that being said, like I
see everyone's frustration, and I'm frustrated too. Just want to
play ball.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
God.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I mean, look, I'm not surprised to hear it. I
know you guys aren't either, for how brazen people are
these days. But I just think social media has given
everyone a big mouth, a big mouth. And I was
just talking to Dick off the air about like, why
don't I interact with people on social media when I
don't even know who they are, especially ones that don't
(32:58):
even use their real names, you know, they just sit
behind screen.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The Toronto totally. I mean, I would love to.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Get to a point where I can just stop interacting
with people unless I know for certain they are who
they say they are.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know how you prove.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
That, by the way, But isn't it ridiculous that you
sit here and think about the people that we're talking to.
We don't even know if they're people, and we're interacting
with them.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Over at keyboard.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You need proof when you get pulled over of who
you are, right, you need a driver's license. Why don't
you need proof to show your face when you're giving
death threats on social media?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Do an NFL player?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, I think you need to sign up, sign up,
put your name, your phone number, your email address, your
pick it, verify it's you, and then you know what
a social media account?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You know what happens to Facebook and Twitter and Instagram
and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They're gone. They're all gone because everybody's too.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
They're all gone. They're all gone, that none of them
would exist. And it in is what drives the heart
and the DNA of social media.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And it started.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And I don't mean to point these guys out because
it's not their fault. First time I was exposed to
this Dogman dot com message board twenty years ago that's
where it all began, with the internet message boards and
people going on the air and saying stupid crap bob
O two four three A and having no accountability whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And people make money. Hell, I'll be honest with you.
I make money.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I get like fifty bucks a month from Twitter. Seriously ridiculous.
I arrest you one more.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 10 (34:35):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Let's wrap this up with an all time disaster interview
that happened this morning.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Have you heard this?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
By the way, NFL and Fox host Kurt Menafie, who
also hosts a morning show for Fox five TV in
New York City. This morning, the city's outgoing mayor Eric
Adams joined the show, and when Menafie asked Adams for
a clarification on an earlier answer, the interview quickly blew up.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I know, I just want to be clear here. You
said you're going to see many people from the Adams
administration stay, including the police commissioner. Did you mean that
or you misspeak?
Speaker 11 (35:09):
No, I don't make the determination on who is going
to be part of the next man's administration.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (35:16):
He stated at his debate that he was open to
keeping the police commissioners, so I'm not misspeaking.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
He spoke.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
So are you saying that you think the commissioner is
going to stay?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Brother?
Speaker 11 (35:25):
I don't know how many times I can say the
same thing.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
You know, you're saying that he wants to stay.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
Asked her that question? You keep asking me the same question.
You do that often when I'm on your show.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well, I'm asking the question that I'm asking. Do you
know that she's going to stay? That's all I'm just
trying to get clarification.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Xanna, do you have a question for me? Because I
can't play this game with him game?
Speaker 6 (35:47):
You're the one that said it.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
I answered the question, do you have a question for me? I?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Well, you can play this game if you want as well.
I mean, so let's come on.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
I'm getting ready to get off your show right.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Now, all right, if you to the patrum you want.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
I questioned that, I answered he did not answer to
a Ryan about his dad. Yes, but I'm not going
back and forth with you as I typically do.
Speaker 10 (36:09):
Rue, could I could I just ask another question?
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Because this is what you're coming out here, and you
have an agenda when you come in the show. All right,
so you got to breed man bring and I'm fine,
a deep breath.
Speaker 10 (36:24):
That's why I did meditation, because I know it's I.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Do meditation every morning. So don't worry about me.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
All right.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
You guys are on the same page. You're on the
same page. You said something and you weren't clear on it,
and I asked for a clarification, and then you got
defensive about it. Then I got defensive.
Speaker 11 (36:40):
Don't define when I get defensive, define yourself and I'll
define myself. All right, get defensive, I answer your question. Listen,
speaking to you all, speaking just a citizen.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Try and tell you right off there. We appreciate you,
Thank you very much this lady Mary Eric take right,
He's all done here.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
God, holy yes, oh my god. That was the most
painful thing.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I can't watch Metafie on the pregame show ever again
and think think not think about that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That was horrible.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I mean, first of all, first of all, well on
both on both parts number one, but number two, I
would just and I know I'm guilty of this occasionally, Okay,
I'll give you that's that. I cannot stand when people
talk over each other at length. It's gonna happen every
now and then in radio. It's not it's not it's
(37:36):
it's impossible to totally avoid. But when it goes on
and on and on and on and on, and my god, dude,
shut up, somebody shut up.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's the mayor. Just let him go, let him hang himself,
you hang your whatever. My god, I think it's human nature.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
When you say something that you're like and you kind
of want to put it back in your mouth, and
then somebody calls you want it?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
What's the natural reaction for you to.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Get even more fired up and more defensive, knowing, Oh crap,
I screwed up.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So I gotta double down on my take here. And
I think both of them ended up doing it, But
there was somebody else in the room.
Speaker 10 (38:12):
I know.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Just let her ask the question like that. Isn't she
just holding up to her? Isn't she holding up a handguing?
Just stop? Put time out, Let the guy say whatever
he's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean, first of all, I had no idea that men,
if he did that, show no idea, you know that,
I had no clue. I don't know, man. You know
what they should do. They should reenact it on the
Fox pregame show on Sunday, see if they have the balls.
But it's a it's a sports dispute, right, like, uh,
give me a highway long, Terry Bradshaw. You're telling me
that Terry Bradshaw's retiring. I'm not saying that. WHOA what
(38:43):
are you saying that? And just just reenact it. Have
some fun with it, man like, on a much sense,
on a much exactly, on a much smaller scale, we've
said the Mariners should bust their own balls about the
fifty four percent thing, and they won't do it. Yeah,
how great would it be? A Fox had some fun
with that on Sunday. No way they'll do it, but
they should. Hugh Millon joins next on ninety three three
(39:04):
kJ RF
Were we go absolute disaster, I would say for Washington,
would just say disaster for the Sounders as well. Okay,
so at least the Hawks got the job done. My god,
at least they took care of business against Arizona. And
I think all of us were kind of thicking before
the game. This is gonna be a slog fest. It's
gonna be a low scoring game. Arizona's getting seven and
(00:21):
a half. And the Hawks just said, noope, noop, noop,
We're gonna go out there and just beat their ass,
just like we did the Commanders last week in Washington,
d c. And just like we did the New Orleans
Saints in Week three at lumen Field. Earlier this year,
I got a buddy of mine who was at both
the Saint game and the Arizona game, and they were
both scoring thirty eight points at half in both those games.
(00:45):
So I told this guy, he's actually a kook. I said,
you want to go to a couple of dog games
for me. By the way, I get you tickets.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
For the Orton game. You want to go check that out,
for God's sake.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So anyway, we got a lot to get to short show.
We got Packers Eagles coming up kickoff five fifteen. Pregame
at five with Kevin Harry. He was in town doing
the game yesterday, jumped on a bird back to Green
Bay for the game tonight, so you get to hear
Kevin's voice on TV, yesterday's voice on radio again tonight.
We got the Huskies just completely falling all over themselves,
(01:13):
fumbling everything that they had in their possession, giving the
game away in a lot of ways to Wisconsin. Dick
on Saturday afternoon, What shout about that? The passing of
Lenny Wilkins which took place. It was announced during the
Seahawk game on Sunday. We got a special tribute to
him coming up at four point thirty this afternoon. A
(01:33):
few minutes of an interview that we did with Lenny
about three years ago, right Jackson twenty twenty two. We
caught up with Lenny talking about family, basketball, the city
of Seattle, the whole thing. And I will just say
this because I want to keep the majority of my
thoughts on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Dick for four thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But there may not have been a bigger name in
the history of Seattle sports until Ken Griffy Junior showed
up than Lenny Wilkins. And when you just go buy
one name, when you say Lenny, and people know who
you're talking about. And I don't know if there's been
a name that's effected a bigger swath of generations than
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Lenny Wilkins, going back to the nineteen sixties, the nineteen seventies,
the eighties, has worked to desperately try and get the
team back in Seattle. He never gave up, He never
stopped dreaming about this basketball team coming back. He is,
in two words, mister basketball. In my opinion, when it
comes to the two six, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
When we were growing up, he was number one. I
think Steve Largent was probably number two. But there was
probably a gap between Lenny and Steve Largin just because
of like you said, the different generations. I mean, Lenny
was just as important to my ninety three year old
dad as he was to me he was fifty one
because I'd never remembered him as a player. I only
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remembered him as the first coach and the coach that
led my team to the championship where he he remembered
him all the way back into playing in college. So
I mean, just watching his Hall of fame career and
then turning into a Hall of Fame coach. And I
think I was driving in thinking about Lenny and there
were three words that popped into my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Old school class.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
There's guys with class, and then there's like that old
school like nineteen fifties class.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's like class with you know, in emphasis.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's what every time I talked to Lenny Wilkins, every
time off the air, on the ear, it's just that
class that exuded from him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, he was, he was.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What's the old commercial with the the he talks people. Yes, Clutton, Yes, yes,
everybody wanted to hear what Lenny Wilkins had to say. Everybody,
any basketball related topics, sonic related topic, you'd want to
get Lenny's taken.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He never said no, never said no.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know, if you call him up and he says
I can't do it, he'll give you a time of
day or a week that he can do it. So
he was absolutely, as you said, class personified a guy
that we're going to miss in, a guy that you know,
heartbreaking that we couldn't get this thing back in time
for him to see it. This is exactly why I
get frustrated when things like this drag on. It's exactly
why I get frustrated when things like the Hall of
Fame for Mike Homegrin drag on, because not all of
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us have forever. Nobody does, and some of us have
less time than others left on this thing. And the
fact that we could not make this happen so Lenny
could see the return is absolutely heartbreaking, and it makes
me angry to think that Lenny Wilkins is not going
to be there physically. He'll be there in spirit, obviously,
but the fact that he's not going to be there
physically to see this when it does come back, it's
(04:36):
not going to make it the same.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We're losing too many.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're losing too many of these people that have played
a major role in Seattle's love for the NBA and
Seattle's love for Sonic basketball. And it's about time we
get this thing done asap so we don't lose anymore.
So we'll hear from Lenny coming up at four twenty
eight today. Get to the Huskies in a minute. But man, guys,
it's really hard to not start losing your mind over
(05:00):
Seahawk football. What they did yesterday against an Arizona football
team that beat the Cowboys on Monday night in Dallas.
We're all sitting around thinking, Hey, these guys might be
better off with Brissette than they are with Kyler Murray.
And the Seahawks turned them into a joke. They turned
them into an absolute joke. And I think, I think,
what's starting to happen if it hasn't happened already? And
(05:20):
this is I go back to the loss to Tampa Bay.
What was the score of that game? Was it thirty
eight thirty five? Thirty eight thirty five? And you and
I are on the air from the Emerald Queen that
day and we're talking about the defense and ah, they're
banged up and all that, and I remember just looking
at you and saying, you know what, I thought that
when Mike McDonald was hired, the star of the show
(05:41):
was going to be the scheme. Remember how many times
we said that the star of the show is going
to be Mike McDonald and his defensive mind. And they
were banged up again yesterday, right Jaron Reid was out,
Julian Love was out, Ernest Jones was out. Didn't matter,
didn't matter. I mean, it's getting to be almost borderline
ridiculous that there's two things.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Going on I find ludicrous.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Number one the fact that Jackson Smith that Jigba keeps
putting up stupid numbers and nobody can stop him.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Nobody.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Like when we talked to Hugh at four o'clock today,
I want to ask him, like, do you think that
Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald are waiting for defenses to
do something against Jackson Smith and Jigba and they're either
not doing it or they're doing it and they still
find ways to beat him. I mean, I'm looking, I'm
honestly waiting for a defense dick to play press against
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this guy and for someone to literally grab his face
mask and throw him to the ground on the line
of scrimmage, because that seems to be the only way
people can stop this kid. It's insane what Jackson Smith's
and Jigba is doing. And then the defense, it doesn't matter.
Who's hurt doesn't matter, doesn't matter, if your best linebacker's out,
doesn't matter, if your best defensive back is out, doesn't matter,
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if your best interior defender, whatever, anybody, it doesn't matter.
They could take all eleven guys put him on the sideline,
bring eleven guys in from the stands, okay, like Star
Wars with the Clone Troopers, and just replace them, replace them,
replace them, and they would just keep destroying people.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What this defense is doing is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And honestly, guys, this Sunday against the Rams, I don't
know if I've ever been this excited for a coaching
matchup Sean mcvay's offense against Mike McDonald's defense on Sunday.
And how many times have we said, and we said
this going into the twenty thirteen NFC Championship game, and
we said it, we admitted it going into the twenty
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twenty three UUB Michigan game, that if you can, you
always want the defense. You always want the killer defense
over the killer offense. And now we're going to get
another chance to see what happens this weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, then you talk about that Tampa game, Tampa Bay game,
such an outlier that game was. And other than that game,
you know, there's only one team that has scored twenty
points against the Seahawks all season one, Cardinals, and that's.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The AARs on the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right now, now, let's twice and let's keep it in god,
let's keep it in context.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They're the only other team that scored twenty. But let's
see how they got to twenty. It was twenty to
six Seattle with six.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Minutes left to go in the first game they played
him twenty to six, right, So the Cardinals scored kind
of two meaningless touchdowns at the end to get to twenty,
and then yesterday everything they did was meaningless in the
second half. So in reality, they've really only allowed twenty
or more toll one team, and that's Baker Mayfield in
the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
For any measure of competitive games.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, well, i'd have to go back and compare to
the rest of the NFL. But I'm just going to
make a statement here and it could be complete nonsense
and bs in which most of what I say is anyway,
So what's the difference. I wonder if this is the
best team in the NFL in the last seventeen games,
meaning this year and then going back to last year,
because you remember the bye. Remember the bye was a
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year ago. They lost that overtime game at home to
the Rams. Remember that game, and then they had to
buy And that's the year or the week where I
think it was Julian Love and somebody else may have
come out and said that they had this meeting and
they said, like this crap ends now, remember that, right,
And people have said that that's where the defense kind
of got figured out, the communication got figured out. We
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should go back to our preseason interviews that we did.
I'm pretty sure it was Julian Love that we had
on Jackson, either in late July or August, who told
us that bye week is when everything began to click. Well,
they're thirteen and four and their last seven game seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Eagles I think are the only ones with better read
since then six seventeen and three more games.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, so they are.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They are amongst the best teams in the National Football League.
They're thirteen and four since the bye last year, and
three of the four losses I believe have come by
four points or less. I mean, that's how close they
are to be in sixteen and one in their last
seventeen games, and god, I mean you start to think,
is this like people keep saying this reminds me of
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the twenty twelve Well does it? Maybe it reminds you
the twenty thirteen year. Yeah, that's the comparable team, right, maybe.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It reminds you that they could win the whole freaking thing.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, we had a really great back and forth
yesterday during the game of what a theoretical game between
the thirteen team and this team, and it's an actual
like you can say the ridiculous conversation, but it's an
actual thought of how competitive this team would be right
against the greatest team of all time.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well, the only and the only reason why I mentioned
in twenty twelve is just because remember the end of
the year, they were just murdering everybody, Arizona fifty eight nothing,
Buffalo and Toronto fifty to seventeen, the Niners that kicked
their ass forty two to thirteen. They were just unstoppable
in the final month of the year. But this is
happening in November. This is not happening in December. And
it's happening in the second year of a coach's tenure,
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not the third year of a coach's tenure. I mean, look,
Pete Carroll spent a couple of years kind of trimming
this thing down to the studs, and it obviously worked
out tremendously. But how many times have we said the
NFC's wide open. How many times have we said that,
just like the American League, this whole thing is there
for the taking. I mean, nobody seems to this thing.
The Buffalo Bills are like, we need to implode them.
(11:03):
It's unbelievable what's happening in Buffalo. So in the wards
are Russell Wilson guys, why not us?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah? Why not us?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean, tell me, honestly, why why why can't this
team win the They can't run the ball?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Is that why? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, it doesn't matter. They can't run the ball, it
doesn't matter. They they got guys hurt, it doesn't matter.
Maybe eventually Dickett catches up.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, every team they're competing with has got an achilles heel,
so it's not like there's any even close to perfect
team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So there's no reason why they couldn't win it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I look back at twenty thirteen, there was an
anomaly in the beginning of that season. Two remember the
Indianapolis game they lost thirty four to twenty eight. All
the other games they're holding teams to seven three seventeen thirteen.
I mean, Tampa, it's it's very that's our Tampa. That
the only thing. And I am not pouring water on
this thing. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna throw. I'm
just gonna throw something out.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wow, I'm not gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I'm gonna simply ask a question. Okay, I'm gonna ask
a question. What is their record against teams with winning records?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know, but I would just tell us first,
I've beaten San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Excuse me, they have beaten Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They have lost to San Francisco in Tampa Bay, and
they've beaten Jacksonville. If you consider that a really good
team with a winning record, they're like two and two.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I would like you. I would like you. If you're
going to peek on the parade, I'm just listen.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You asked me why. I'm giving you a reason. Stractive
schedule has not been good.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Whether you elected or not, you did pee on the parade,
and at your age, sometimes it just flies out. I
get that, But how many teams out there really have
a great record against winning teams at.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Not a lot?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Not a lot?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean that's kind of again, that's how you do it, right.
We talk about baseball, we talk about it in the NFL.
You want to win twelve thirteen games, you got to
beat up on the slop and just hold serve against
the good teams and hope you're healthy. I mean, honestly,
the team that maybe has surprised me the most this year,
and see if you can guess the team I'm thinking
of the team that surprised me the most and that's impressed.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Me the most. New englandis Detroit. Detroit.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You and I both thought they were done with their schedule.
I thought, yeah, I remember, thought they would lose. I
thought they'd win like ten games this year. We thought
they were done. Dude, finished fifteen last year and they're
eight and two the two games they've lost.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Do you think the Colts are good? Yes, think the
Rams are good. Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
They've lost those games by four points combined. Four points combined,
pretty good. I mean, you might have two of the
best teams in the NFC might be Detroit and it
might be Seattle. I mean, I think, you know, instead
of saying the NFC is wide open, which I think
it is, I don't think it's wide open though, because
there's just a bunch of crap like there was in
the American League. I think there's a lot of good
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teams in the NFC. Philadelphia is good, Tampa's good. Packers
are good, the Lions are good, the Hawks are good,
the Rams are good.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Hell, the Bears might be good.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
There's like four or five good teams their six Super Bowl.
Is there Super Bowl contender teams in the NFL? Yes, no, yes,
And we're one of them, and we're one of them.
We are absolutely one of them. So again, if they
can just find a way to run the ball. We've
been saying that for a long time. It really does
feel like if I'm throwing some water on the on
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the parade here, I'll admit that if there's one thing
they're really gonna want to try and do, it's run
the damn ball. Because what they'll try and do is
get the lead, and this is obvious.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I know that, and then not make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And I realize that Sam Darnold's turnovers, I mean, god,
go back and look at his last four turnovers here, Man,
I got a theory best time to throw a pick
because when you're up thirty eight to seven. Yeah, all right,
so this is the goofiest turnovers. Wells helmets, unless we
are in the Tampa Bay one and the one against
San Francisco, which you can't do that, but you're right.
I mean, he has a fumble yesterday up thirty five nothing,
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he has a pick yesterday up thirty eight to seven.
He has a fumble yesterday up thirty eight to fifteen,
and a pick against the Commanders up thirty one to seven.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Those are where hiss like, I get him out of
your system. I saw this.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So this knucklehead tweeting, well, this's Geno's got the exact
same number of turnovers. Okay, and what's the score of
those games that down fifty eight to five?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's I guess.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yes, Wow, they're still left out. Well, just because people
don't look at context. Guys, they don't look at context.
And you said it kind of maybe trying to be sarcastic,
but I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'd rather just get him out.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Now, get him out when you'reup thirty eight to seven,
Get out who thirty eight to fifteen?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Do it? Cough them up, man, I bee.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You believe that if you throw an interception that either
a your receiver drops and it hits off the hands
and goes into a defender, or it deflects off of
something like a helmet that should not count as an
interception in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, I mean Millan would tell you arm slide where
he didn't play quarterback in the NFL, throwing things like that.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I get it, but it's really hard to not get
excited about what this team is capable of getting done.
And I mean, look the game yesterday, the fact that
Jackson Smith and Jigba did what he did in the
first quarter.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
How predictable though? Was the second half?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean you're just kicking their ass.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You're not gonna win sixty two to three in the
NFL that would have been fun. Yeah, they hung seventy,
but they they shut her down, Yes, right, they shut
her down a little bit, you know, And it's predictable
what happened. Butnmarcus Lawrence stepping up the way he did? Tyokatta,
are you kidding me? With this guy? Ne Am I
A Pritchett yesterday with the play he made in the
(16:26):
end zone. Drake Thomas, I dude, I guarantee you there's
still some Seahawk fans that watch these games and have
no idea who these guys are.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, that's right, and they're kind of slowly jumping on
the wagon.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But if you look at the records for next week,
it's fourteen and four seven to two against seven to two.
It is the best record wise matchup. Now, you can
argue whether it's a better matchup than the Eagles Lions.
You can argue whether it's a better matchup than the
Chiefs Broncos. I get why it wasn't flexed, but it
is a fabulous game. We're gonna get to break it
down all week long. But my first gut, and I
think back to something that Jackson said last week that
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AM's defense.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Dude, that's good, really good.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I don't know how either team so as ours
puts a lot of points on the round.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I agree. I mean, I saw the over under in
this game. What is it? Forty eight and a half.
We're taking it under. We're taking it. We're taking the
under factor fiction. It's done. I mean, I'm not not
even gonna make a listen the window.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The window doesn't open until three thirty five, so you
can't text for fifteen minutes, Tex and you can you
can lock it in right now, all right, We're taking
the in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I mean, the only thing about the Rams game that
scaresy is the Hawks have not played well. They're three
and six the last nine games. But I will also
tell you this, and guys, I'll be truthful. I'm thinking
about going down there on Sunday. Oh cool, I'm thinking
about taking off Saturday morning going down there. Never been
to Sofi Stadium. If I can find a you know,
reasonable flight, I might just find my ass down there
to watch that game. There's gonna be opportunities for Seahawk
(17:53):
fans to get tickets and flood that place on Sunday.
Don't you have to work on Saturday. I do Saturday,
but not to play like in the Sunday morning take
off Sunday morning, landed ten, go watch the game, come home.
I mean, what the hell It's like two hours to
get down there, right, So yeah, I could take a price.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I'm looking right now.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Venue Kings dot Com to get in the door for
the Seahawk Rams game on Sunday is one hundred and
thirty eight dollars, So it's not it's not cheap, but
it's also not crazy either.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
By the lot of Seahawks fans in that stadium.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Nickens for the Wisconsin game to get in the door
were five bucks at kickoff on Saturday, which makes it
even more painful that we lost to those guys. But
so yeah, there's there's a chance for Seahawk fans to
go down there and really flood that place. Remember the
NFC Championship they played a couple of years ago against
the Niners. How many Niner fans were there in that stadium?
They don't care. I would love if I don't go
(18:43):
to the game, to be able to turn on TV
and see twenty thousand Seahawk fans in the stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, the five prices aren't that bad, depending on what
that's a great idea, soft Y, Yeah, I mean for
all Sea fans out there, it's next to lax, so
you can simply fly in and fly out and it's
like a five five.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Uber, Right, get an uber, jump on down there, watch
the game go on. I don't know, Man three twenty
one got a lot to get to factor fiction. You
know the pick, but we're gonna give it to you
officially in about fourteen minutes. The Huskies, oh my god,
they cannot handle prosperity.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Simply put.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think we've realized that they cannot handle some teams
can't handle adversity, they can't handle prosperity. I think instead
of complimenting them and talking about how great they are
and going what a great job Jed's done, look at
them now a year and a half into year or
two they're ranked. I think instead we should just go
on the ear and talk about how much they suck
every single day, even if they win.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No chance against produced. No, no, they are cooked.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
They're cooked, Play Oregon cooked, UCLA cook, Bull Game cooked.
They stink, man, because nothing else is working with these guys.
We're gonna break and come back and talk about it
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Speaker 6 (20:07):
All Right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I'm busy Monday.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We got Eagles, we got Packers, five fifteen, kick off,
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Speaker 2 (20:12):
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Speaker 1 (20:25):
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But Huskies lose at Madison thirteen to ten on Saturday afternoon,
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and look, when you think it's going to be a
close game, which I think a lot of us felt
a little bit nervous about the line.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes it was ten and a half. Is that right?
When it was all said and done.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We looked at that and said, yeah, this is gonna
be a low scoring it's going to be a slog.
The weather's not going to be great. Wisconsin's defense is
actually pretty good. They're getting a little bit of a
reprieve with the schedule. They played three of the top
five defenses in the country in the last three weeks.
And if it's a close game, then mistakes can matter, right,
and the Huskies let mistakes matter.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean I think you tweeted it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We talked about it postgame that Washington basically dictated everything
in that game, from the positive to the negative.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
They gave Wisconsin everything they had.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Everything Wisconsin had was courtesy of a gift from U Doub.
I mean, let's go back at the first scoring drive
for Wisconsin. U Doub's facing fourth and five from their
own ten and they line drive a punt that Wisconsin
takes to the forty three. They need fourteen yards and
they get a field goal. Second scoring drive, they're at
their own seven after a demand fumble that led to
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an easy touchdown for Wisconsin. Third scoring drive, they're at
their own seven. They punt terribly to the thirty six
yard line, and Wisconsin ends up getting three. I mean,
it was just special teams disaster after special teams disaster.
Only reason why they were even in the game was
because of a special team's mistake by Wisconsin that led
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to a block punt by Anthony Ward that led to
a touchdown two plays later to Denzel Boston. So you're
gonna give Wisconsin's terrible offense short fields and giveaway free points,
then you're.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Gonna lose the game.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And this is another game where look, you can argue
about Wisconsin's defense.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You can argue this.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You can argue that they didn't show up offensively, whether
because of injuries, offensive line, Joonah Coma, whatever, Demon was
terrible in the game on Saturday, and I think there's
criticism for Jed. I think there's room for criticism for
the play. There's room for criticism for decisions. Nobody should
be immune from what we saw on Saturday afternoon, Dick
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in Madison.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Nobody. We saw special teams trifecta.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
How often do you get your punt blocked, your field
goal blocked, and you get a fake punt executed against
you right for a first down? I mean, add on
that shanked punts, add on to that an illegal fair catch,
so you start a drive at the five yard line.
It was a special team's disaster. And then on demand. Man,
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you have got to know going into this game, the
other team can't score if you have to make them
go full field. You cannot be running around in your
backfield with the ball in one hand out there like
a loaf of bread. You cannot be throwing balls over
the top into traffic, into harms way.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And that is exactly what he did. As much as I.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Love Demond Williams, he just puts the ball in harms
way too many times, particularly away from Husky Stadium.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, look, I think he's nineteen years old. I understand it.
There's a lot in his plate, maybe too much, Dick,
to be honest with you, on his plate, and maybe
now more so with the injuries they've had. I mean,
let's face it, you know, Roebuck is a nice young player,
but he's not what you're looking.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
For in a real number two. Not on a good team. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jonah Coleman's not running the ball well for whatever reason,
whether him or scheme or offensive line being banged up, whatever.
So they have no consistent running game, and they have
no consistent group of wide receivers that can help the
guy out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
He's got no tight end at all. He's got no
tight end on this roster.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So they're probably, to be fair putting too much on
his plate. But a year into this, and he started
obviously the Oregon game a year ago, we're almost a
year into it now. Making that mistake in that situation
he can't do. And look, I mean, nobody's going to
deny that. Demon Williams has the ability to be a
(24:39):
great player down the road, but he's not that yet
at all.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He's not even close to a great player yet.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
He's a massively inconsistent player that shows up at home
and for whatever reason, has not been able to put
together a solid four quarters yet on the road. I mean,
the only half he's got is the second half of Maryland.
Everything else is a train wreck, to be honest with you,
So until that changes, this is going to be at
most an eight or a nine win team. Maybe maybe
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at most an eight or a nine win team. And
then for Jed, real quick, guys, look, I just think this.
I think the straight line back is not or the
lineback is not straight. There's gonna be ups, it's gonna
be downs, And the longer you get into this, the
less the fans will be patient and be willing to
forgive games like what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think for now, I'm willing to look at it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
As just a big setback for you, Dub and not
a trend for Washington. But I'm telling you, if we're
sitting here in a year from now, or hell, if
we're sitting here in two weeks from now, against you
talking about a loss, then you got a trend, and
then you got a problem, and then at that point
you got to start to ask yourself. We have a
(25:49):
bigger issue here that needs to be rooted out. Factor
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number five scoring defenses in the National Football League against
the Rams and the Seahawks. Mike McDonald versus Sean mcvay's offense,
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a defense that seemingly doesn't really give a damn who's healthy.
They just kick somebody's ass no matter what. Every single weekend.
Matt Stafford's on fire, have you seen his numbers, by
the way, the last like eight weeks for him, he
has been absolutely unbelievable. And now if you look at
the Vegas odds, Dick, by the way, Matt Stafford is
(27:01):
the new favorite to win the MVP. Matt Stafford going
back to September the twenty eighth, So week number four
has twenty touchdowns and zero interceptions. Twenty and zero going
back to week four. All good things must come to
an end. I think he gets held down. I don't
have any idea who the hell wins the game on Sunday,
(27:23):
but I don't think either quarterback is going to be
able to go out there and just slights that opposing
defensive part. When you mentioned the total, almost fell out
of my chair forty eight and a half, which basically
in essence means they gotta score fifty points combined. I
don't see it. I see a twenty three to seventeen
game on Sunday. Give us the under forty eight and
a half in the Hawk's rans, exactly right. We're gonna
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see a lot of punts in this game. We're gonna
see a lot of stalled drives in this game. Some
field goals in this game. I don't think we're gonna
see it's a lot of touchdowns in this game. And
you know what Byron Murphy said about Jacoby Brissett calling
him a sitting duck yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
That's the one thing that can be said about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Matthew Stafford getting out of hairy situations with his legs.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So if you can have any semblance of a.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Pass rush on Sunday that you had this week and
last week, Matthew Stafford's gonna get sacked four or five
times in that football.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Matt Stafford since Week number four is five and one
with a sixty eight percent completion rate, twenty touchdowns, zero interceptions,
and a passer rating of one hundred and twenty two.
He has been unbelievable and he is now He's the
new flavor of the month, right. I mean, first it
was Baker Mayfield, then it was Daniel Jones, and it
(28:33):
was maybe Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Now it's Matt Stafford. I mean, who will it be
next week?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Every single week there's a new flavor of the day
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little fun with audio, and then Hugh Millon joins little
more at four. Our tribute to Lenny, who passed away
over the weekend at the age of eighty eight, will
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come at four thirty on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's now time for something in Dick's fun with audio.
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
All right, let's get right to it Heremillen joins us
at four o'clock today, A little more at four with Hugh.
Our tribute to Lenny Wilkins, by the way, coming up
at four point thirty this afternoon, right now though a
little fun.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
With audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Let's start with Sacramento King's head coach Doug Christie, former
Rainer Beach Stars.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Who was born and raised in Seattle, was overcome with
emotion at a press conference yesterday as he spoke about
the memory of basketball legend Lenny Wilkins and his love
for Lenny's Sonics teams as a kid.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I just want to send out a lot of love
to Lenny Wilkins and his family. A kid from Seattle,
seventy nine championship and he probably doesn't even know that
without him, I'm not here. So a lot of blessings,
a lot of busses. Being from Seattle, you know, the
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Sonics were everything, and you know, being a kid in
the Rainier Valley is is pretty tough. So one day
on the bus, you were you're riding down and you
look over and I think it was Franklin High School.
I'm sitting on the bus. We're going downtown. We would
always bus ride, you know. It was it was raining
(30:33):
like most times. Looked out the window. I'm like, damn,
here comes to Rose Royce and it was it was
Gus Williams, and I just said, I don't know what
he's doing.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
First of all, is great tribute by him. Number one.
Number two.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Uh, maybe I'm crazy, but god, he sounds just like
Lorenzo Rome.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He kind of does when he does it is amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And then number three. You gotta remember Doug Christie when
the Sonics won the NBA title, was nine years old.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like right, smack the Wheelhouse fandom.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
You're nine.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
These guys are gods. You're collecting cards, you're going to games,
You're doing the whole thing. I think he's again, Dick,
not to be repetitive, but I think he's the biggest
basketball figure this town has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think you're right, Doug.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
When Doug won that state championship in eighty eight with
Rainier Beach, I mean that was the year of Dale Ellis,
Tom Chambers.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
And the X Man.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean that is three.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I mean that is so wheelheuse he's four years older
than I am and just Wheelhouse man.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, good for him. We're gonna hear from Lenny again.
It's about four thirty today, he Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Giants kicker Graham Gano spoke with New York media late
last week, uh this is before his coach got fired,
by the way, and shared how sports gambling has affected
his life, including after suffering an injury recently.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Unbelievably frustrating me so all I want to do is
play football, So I think that's frustrating. I hear everyone
else's frustration. Media fans, I get the I mean, shoot,
ever since sports betting started happening, I get people telling
me to kill myself every week, and you know, because
I'll hit a kick that loses them money, I'll miss
a kick and lose them money. It was the other day,
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shod I told me to get cancer and die. So
I mean that that stuff's part of it. But just
being like playing this long, that stuff you're used to
it by now. So with that being said, like I
see everyone's frustration, and I'm frustrated too. Just want to
play ball.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
God.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I mean, look, I'm not surprised to hear it. I
know you guys aren't either, for how brazen people are
these days. But I just think social media has given
everyone a big mouth, a big mouth. And I was
just talking to Dick off the air about like, why
don't I interact with people on social media when I
don't even know who they are, especially ones that don't
(32:58):
even use their real names, you know, they just sit
behind screen.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The Toronto totally. I mean, I would love to.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Get to a point where I can just stop interacting
with people unless I know for certain they are who
they say they are.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know how you prove.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
That, by the way, But isn't it ridiculous that you
sit here and think about the people that we're talking to.
We don't even know if they're people, and we're interacting
with them.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Over at keyboard.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You need proof when you get pulled over of who
you are, right, you need a driver's license. Why don't
you need proof to show your face when you're giving
death threats on social media?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Do an NFL player?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, I think you need to sign up, sign up,
put your name, your phone number, your email address, your
pick it, verify it's you, and then you know what
a social media account?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You know what happens to Facebook and Twitter and Instagram
and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They're gone. They're all gone because everybody's too.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
They're all gone. They're all gone, that none of them
would exist. And it in is what drives the heart
and the DNA of social media.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And it started.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And I don't mean to point these guys out because
it's not their fault. First time I was exposed to
this Dogman dot com message board twenty years ago that's
where it all began, with the internet message boards and
people going on the air and saying stupid crap bob
O two four three A and having no accountability whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And people make money. Hell, I'll be honest with you.
I make money.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I get like fifty bucks a month from Twitter. Seriously ridiculous.
I arrest you one more.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 10 (34:35):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Let's wrap this up with an all time disaster interview
that happened this morning.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Have you heard this?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
By the way, NFL and Fox host Kurt Menafie, who
also hosts a morning show for Fox five TV in
New York City. This morning, the city's outgoing mayor Eric
Adams joined the show, and when Menafie asked Adams for
a clarification on an earlier answer, the interview quickly blew up.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I know, I just want to be clear here. You
said you're going to see many people from the Adams
administration stay, including the police commissioner. Did you mean that
or you misspeak?
Speaker 11 (35:09):
No, I don't make the determination on who is going
to be part of the next man's administration.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (35:16):
He stated at his debate that he was open to
keeping the police commissioners, so I'm not misspeaking.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
He spoke.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
So are you saying that you think the commissioner is
going to stay?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Brother?
Speaker 11 (35:25):
I don't know how many times I can say the
same thing.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
You know, you're saying that he wants to stay.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
Asked her that question? You keep asking me the same question.
You do that often when I'm on your show.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well, I'm asking the question that I'm asking. Do you
know that she's going to stay? That's all I'm just
trying to get clarification.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Xanna, do you have a question for me? Because I
can't play this game with him game?
Speaker 6 (35:47):
You're the one that said it.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
I answered the question, do you have a question for me? I?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Well, you can play this game if you want as well.
I mean, so let's come on.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
I'm getting ready to get off your show right.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Now, all right, if you to the patrum you want.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
I questioned that, I answered he did not answer to
a Ryan about his dad. Yes, but I'm not going
back and forth with you as I typically do.
Speaker 10 (36:09):
Rue, could I could I just ask another question?
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Because this is what you're coming out here, and you
have an agenda when you come in the show. All right,
so you got to breed man bring and I'm fine,
a deep breath.
Speaker 10 (36:24):
That's why I did meditation, because I know it's I.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Do meditation every morning. So don't worry about me.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
All right.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
You guys are on the same page. You're on the
same page. You said something and you weren't clear on it,
and I asked for a clarification, and then you got
defensive about it. Then I got defensive.
Speaker 11 (36:40):
Don't define when I get defensive, define yourself and I'll
define myself. All right, get defensive, I answer your question. Listen,
speaking to you all, speaking just a citizen.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Try and tell you right off there. We appreciate you,
Thank you very much this lady Mary Eric take right,
He's all done here.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
God, holy yes, oh my god. That was the most
painful thing.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I can't watch Metafie on the pregame show ever again
and think think not think about that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That was horrible.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I mean, first of all, first of all, well on
both on both parts number one, but number two, I
would just and I know I'm guilty of this occasionally, Okay,
I'll give you that's that. I cannot stand when people
talk over each other at length. It's gonna happen every
now and then in radio. It's not it's not it's
(37:36):
it's impossible to totally avoid. But when it goes on
and on and on and on and on, and my god, dude,
shut up, somebody shut up.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's the mayor. Just let him go, let him hang himself,
you hang your whatever. My god, I think it's human nature.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
When you say something that you're like and you kind
of want to put it back in your mouth, and
then somebody calls you want it?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
What's the natural reaction for you to.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Get even more fired up and more defensive, knowing, Oh crap,
I screwed up.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So I gotta double down on my take here. And
I think both of them ended up doing it, But
there was somebody else in the room.
Speaker 10 (38:12):
I know.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Just let her ask the question like that. Isn't she
just holding up to her? Isn't she holding up a handguing?
Just stop? Put time out, Let the guy say whatever
he's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean, first of all, I had no idea that men,
if he did that, show no idea, you know that,
I had no clue. I don't know, man. You know
what they should do. They should reenact it on the
Fox pregame show on Sunday, see if they have the balls.
But it's a it's a sports dispute, right, like, uh,
give me a highway long, Terry Bradshaw. You're telling me
that Terry Bradshaw's retiring. I'm not saying that. WHOA what
(38:43):
are you saying that? And just just reenact it. Have
some fun with it, man like, on a much sense,
on a much exactly, on a much smaller scale, we've
said the Mariners should bust their own balls about the
fifty four percent thing, and they won't do it. Yeah,
how great would it be? A Fox had some fun
with that on Sunday. No way they'll do it, but
they should. Hugh Millon joins next on ninety three three
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