November 7, 2024 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dick Fain and Hugh Millen break down the performances and play the blame game between Offensive Coordinator Ryan Grubb, quarterback Geno Smith, and the entire offensive line, analyzing what’s wrong with the Hawks’ offense right now.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rolling into the four o'clock hour. Now it's time to
get down to the nitty gritty with with Hugh Milling.
What I mean by nitty gritty, we're talking Seahawk football. So, Hugh,
when I was thinking about this conversation, and I was
thinking about the offense and the struggles that it has
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had for some reason, a cut from Ryan Grubb, a
conversation that Softie and I had face to face with Ryan.
Hugh was there too, there too, Okay, Hugh, you were
there too. Then you were sitting right by Ryan Grubb
when he said the following about his quarterback and how
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to help his quarterback have a better season.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Gino's throwing talent, arm talent, the way it comes out, accuracy.
You know, it's not a you get to know him
when you start watching him. You're at practice with him
now every day and you're like, hey, two years ago,
this guy led the league in completion percentage.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think he's I think he's an elite quarterback, and
I think that he has the traits to be able
to push the ball down the field, quick release, to
get accurate underneath throws, and great understanding the protection scheme.
He's he's a veteran guy like that's one of the
biggest assets is you come in and you have a
guy like Geno that can, you know, execute your protection
scheme and take care of himself. I got to make
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sure that, you know, like I said before, we take
care of Geno, And I think the first thing is
I would much rather overinvest in protection and keep us
up right and give ourselves a chance. You know, the
we had a couple of a B gap problems today
and that's that's exactly what you can't have his interior problems.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So let's get to a couple of those phrases that
he used. First of all, an elite quarterback. I've watched
nine games of Geno Smith this year, as we all have,
and I've seen an elite quarterback in the Atlanta game.
I've seen an elite quarterback for the most part, in
the Detroit game. I have not seen an elite quarterback
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in the other seven games that they have played, and
in fact, I have seen a less than good quarterback
in at least five, if not six, of the nine
games they have played. Is that a fair assessment from
what you've seen from Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, I think we're talking about two different subjects here,
because this was in August. He was talking about a
training camp, practice and what have you. And I'm a
firm believer in what Joe Paterno said. Now, we have
generally negative feelings and first intuitions about Paturner for obvious reasons,
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but he did do some good things. Yes, he said that,
and this is key. Your players are what they think
you think they are. And so I think that maybe
Greb is aware of that quote. Maybe he just intuitively
operates that way. But for him to be in the
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product of trying to ingest confidence in Geno, I totally
support that. So the fact that he described him as
an elite quarterback. Now, by the way, he earned a
Pro Bowl nod in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty three,
he was a third alternate. Yes, okay, so he was.
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He was the sixth guy in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Was all in twenty twenty two or was he actually
named quarterbacks in the NFC?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
He was one of the top three guys all right.
I hate to say when I was playing, but it
used to be that that they'd only have.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Two guys AFC two guys NFC.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Then they expanded it to three, so three guys are voted,
but Gino was the sixth and I can get you
the name of the other well, by the way, it
was Baker Makingfield was five and Jalen Hurts was four.
He was the third alternate the number six. So just
describe him as a Pro Bowl quarterback. I think he
is grossly misleading, at least for year two, a two year,
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two year Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now, the last thing that Ryan said in that quote,
we have to over invest in protecting Geno. Has he
done that?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, what he meant, and that was in response to
a question that I had had for him based on
all we have we know about Ryan Grubb is what
he's done is an OC at Washington and maybe to
a lesser extended Fresno state where you'd done a great
job with Jake Hayner, and what I had noted, and
there were stats to back it up. Last year in
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protecting Michael Pennix, there was a number of times if
you just say that when the opponent rushes for rushers,
which is a standard defense, by the way, standard pass
defense is rush for play coverage with seven whether you're
playing man demand combinations or zone combinations that if you
bring anything more than four, that's considered a blitz. If
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you drop eight and rush three, that's considered some type
of a loaded coverage. But a general's four and the
Huskies were far and away, way I had a higher
likelihood of keeping in a fifth or a sixth blocker,
an extra running back, an extra tight end, and only
sending you know, you know, Jalen and and and roam
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down the field, maybe three guys, maybe Jack Westover is
a late shackdown or something. But but it was what
I was describing as conservative blocking schemes. So my question
had been, is that something that you just philosophically do
that's what you do all the time, or is that
just the personnel. And so his response of hey, I
want to be.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Cautious in that regard. They have to answer the question.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They've they've kind of been at two extremes, and I
can get numbers to support that. They they have been
five out protection, a lot of shotgun five out protections
where if you have a running back back there, he's
he's not involved in the protection. He just quickly just
running a swing route or an era route into the
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flat or something or empty empty backfield would be of
course be a five out protection, right, So they've either
been that or the opposite end. They're more likely to
keep guys in double tight end stuff. Yeah, yeah, and
I think they've gotten a little bit away from that.
I know, from a shotgun standpoint, they have gone the
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first four games of the year they were in shotgun.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
A total of sixty six plays.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
In the last four games, and I know you're gonna
tell me there's been nine games. There's a middle game.
The last four they've been in shotgun thirty eight times.
So they are raising their level of shotgun, which I
think could be one of the factors that they self evaluate.
Certainly they self scout and their aware, and I think
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that those numbers probably need to change. I think that
Geno needs to be under center more. There's just things
from a running game standpoint, you can hit downhill, you
can hide the football from the defense. There's a little
bit of a you know, and certainly if you can
be Jared Goff in the play action game, or a
fraction of Jared Goff, why do I mention him. He's
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far and away the leader in the National Football League
under center play action Jared Goff has an ability as
a tall guy, turn his back to the defense, fake
it from having received the ball from under center, fake
the run, and then turn and quickly process what the
defense is and get rid of the ball. Play with anticipation,
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particularly over the middle. Golf is the master at that.
In modern day football, nobody's close. So when you think
of the effectiveness of the Lion offense, can the Huskies
be a little bit like that? There is evidence that
Gino has been a good play action quarterback in his past.
I think they probably need to bring more of that
in and do it from under center.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And to your point, and I'll try to add to
it here, it just seems like I'm gonna use the
word variability. It just doesn't seem like there's been a
lot of variaability creativity in Grub's offense to help take
pressure off Geno. And I'll just, you know, give you
some examples, you know, pre snap motion. God, we see
it from the rams all the time. I love it,
you know, with the fly sweeps, the fake fly sweeps, RPOs,
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passing on running downs, passing and running formations, running on
passing downs, running in passing formations, you know, those type
of things that you just that that keep the defense
off balance. I just feel like it's boom. Hawks are
in shotgun, They're gonna throw two thirds of the time.
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Come and get us, you know, just you know, get
in your get in your two point stance and just
come after Geno Smith because we're not gonna do anything else.
Is that a fair criticism? Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, the numbers are the numbers.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, they're they're in a high degree of shotgun and
they're passing out of shotgun.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There is a propensity.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yes, Now some of their best running efforts have been
out of shotgun as well, just because they're a high
shotgun team. Maybe after the commercial will give you the propensity.
But I know that a couple of weeks ago they
were in the top three in the league in terms
of their percentage that they were in shotgun. So yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair. Now I think that I think
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Ryan Greb's trying to find himself. I'm I remain a fan,
and it's not just because he's a local Husky guy.
I just think what he has done has shown me
that that he knows football and if you get the
parts around, you know, I think they've got a big
time offensive line prom I mean a good parson of
this portion of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You played with their four string offensive tackle right right.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You got a left tackle I think is overrated in
Charles Cross. I know he gets good grades, but he's
in the least apa Gino constantly, even though he's executing
his block, his guy is not making the sack or
or even necessarily the hurry. But I think it's disruptive,
and so I think, you know, you take the three
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elite tackles that the Seahawks have taken in the top ten,
There's Walter.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Jones is one of one. You know, he was the
sixth overall pick.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Russell Lokong was in my mind also a six round pick,
but in my mind, you know, obviously just a mere
fraction of Walter Jones, but he didn't give him a
second contract o' kong. I think Charles crossed the ninth
overall pick. Though again those are your franchise three left tackles.
I think Charles Cross is a good bit less than
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Russell o'couhm, interesting at least this far in his career.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That's just my assessment.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
There was a great, great quote by a guy that
I know you respect a lot. I respect him a lot.
Greg Cosell this morning, he was on with he was
on with Colin Coward and he said, and he was
referring to Jalen her when he was talking about this,
who are dead last in past percentage in the NFL
forty five percent. He said, coaches and coordinators will tell
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you what they think about their quarterback by how they
use them and the type of offense that they run.
And he was referring to Jalen Hurts. They obviously don't
have a lot of faith in Jalen Hurts. They run
it more frequently now they do have Sakwon Barkley, so
that's going to, you know, tip the scales a little bit.
But they run it more than any other team in
the league. And it seems to me like the Hawks
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are the opposite. I mean, we heard the word elite
come out of Ryan Grubb's mouth. Yeah, I understand he's
I understand your point. He's trying to pump up his quarterback.
But I don't hear a lot of coordinators and head
coaches calling their quarterbacks elite if they're not really elite.
I don't hear a lot of you know, Brian Daboles
saying Daniel Jones as elite. I don't see. I don't
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hear a lot of you know, those other quarterbacks that
are in that twelve to eighteen range in the NFL
is as starters. It came out of Ryan Grubb's mouth
and he uses it, seems Geno Smith as an elite quarterback.
Should he be?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, that's more important than what he said. What he
said again, you and I may have to disagree, but
I don't put any stock in what he said in
August calling him a leak guy.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know, that's just as I said.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I've made not my opinion clear on that, but as
a potent purports to run percentage now and you can
see I'm smiling and winking here, tell me yes or no.
Did did the presentation that I had for you about
the correlation of running in first three quarters?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Have I?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Have I changed your mind on and presented the facts
to you to show that. The takeaway is that you
can't just say, well, they aggregate run past ratio because
and then correlate that to the winning test. Because the
winning because what we did, what we proved on Friday
for those who didn't hear it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I'm not going to go through the numbers.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Again, but it's astonishing that when you break down the
running on quarters one, two, and three, presumably when the
game is still in doubt, the teams that throw the
most have the highest pass ratio. They're the teams that
are winning. And we broke it down into two since
the beginning twenty to twenty twenty two because that was
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the first year of Geno being the starter quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
But we also did another one going.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Back to twenty fifteen just because that's ten years and
ten years as our a round number.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It did you? You did? You absolutely affected my thought
in passing to win and then running to passing to
get ahead and running to win. Having said that, I'm
sitting at Husky Stadium on Saturday night, and my god,
if Lincoln Riley was my head coach and he was
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ignoring what he marks the entire first half and playing
very Ryan grubby in first half football, schucking it around
seventy percent of the time, I would have pulled my
hair out and I would have been on Twitter swearing
at my offensive coordinator and head coach because that's the
type of offense I don't like is when you have
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a stud running back like Woody Marx and you just
let him go.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I agree, And you heard me my opinion about Woody
Mark's Woody Marx, I said on Friday before the SC game,
other than Gentry at Boise State, He's the best running
back I have seen. And I emphasize I haven't seen
them all. I can't watch all the games. But the
best running back I've seen this Woody Marks, is the
freaking dude. You know, like, think of all I'm flashing
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back to all the great SC tailbacks that I've seen
in the last fifty plus years. And I'm not saying
he's OJ Simpson or Mark you know, he's Mark Sallin.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But but that dude is a freaking dude. And so
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And and but that that does not disprove because correlation
positive correlation, will say LI in a world just like
batting average between zero and one, you say, what, well,
when when Edgar hits three fifteen, he's really hitting point three,
one point five, which is obviously we know intuitively thirty
one and.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
A half percent of the time he's getting a hit.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, correlation lives in the that doesn't mean just because
you're really good doesn't mean you you bat a thousand. Well,
same with positive correlation. You can have a high correlation
with you know six seventy, which exceed batting averages, you
know seven eighty eight, eight fifty. There's things that have
a correlation winning of eight fifty, but it's not one thousand,
which means there's a fifteen percent variable. And guess what
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the fifteen percent variable if you had an eight to
fifty correlation.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's for knuckleheads like Lincoln Riley, Like.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You're presiding in the in the in the top one
fifty where you are throwing a lot, but you ain't
winning a lot, and you are a fool for not
running more. He marks right, So just so we understand
that that core exceptions to the correlation don't proved.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The correlation numbers are what they are.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But I kind of feel like Grub is a little
bit like Lincoln Riley this year winning a lot and
we're not running a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Well, I get it. The times. The problem is is
what's the most recent game on on I know, I'm
I'm thinking of this a stat that I know for
a game for all.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Of the the.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The neutral downs first and ten or second one to six.
Those those those interior that should be the playbook wide open.
Nine rushes for knin excuse me, six rushes for k
nine nine yards one point five yards. Pretend that's a
lot of second n He's been trying the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You know, and and and so it's his job to
keep the punter off the field. And when he keeps
facing second and nine and second and eight, he's like, dude,
we just can't run like and this is a vaccine challenge.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I've said it.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I've stood next to offensive coordinators, I've seen I've heard
the conversations. I think it is the number one most
mystifying aspect of being a play caller in the National
Football League. Exactly is that do we keep running, investing
body blows and expect it somehow? You know in the
fourth quarter, it's gonna break loose and we're gonna get
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some big runs and we're gonna tire people out, soften
them up. This, that and the other create a run
pass balance that allows us to be effective in the
passing game. Or am I gonna sit here and face
second and nine behind the chains and keep and our
punters gonna you know, you know, be on the field
like nine times.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think it depends on the talent, I think. And
we got to get to a breakover. We're gonna come
right back to this. I think depends on the talent
of your back. If you have Derrick Henry and he
happens to have twelve carries for nineteen yards in the
first half, you sure as hell give him twelve more
or more in the in the second half because he's
gonna same thing with ken Walker. Ken Walker is such
an a elite, make you miss type guy. You can
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have seven or eight nine carries that nets you fifteen yards,
but eventually the twenty two yarder and the twenty eight
yard are gonna come. We'll take a time out. I
want to ask you when we come back. Is Gino
hurting himself and hurting his offensive line by how long
he holds the football before he throws down Phil do
that more next on ninety three point three KJRFM Live
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from the R and.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie and
Dick on your Home for the Huskies and the Kraken
Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's too early, Dick, It's too early, too early for
Christmas movie November. I came home last night from basketball practice.
My wife and my daughter were watching The Holiday, and
I was like, is this a Christmas movie?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, it is The Jack Black and yeah. No, is
that's a Christmas movie? No, it's November rom com that
kind of happens during Christmas. Because I ended up watching
like the last forty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
See, my my barometer is Diehard's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
A lot of things are Christmas movies. When do you
start watching Christmas movies?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Hugh, I don't know, but I would say that Thanksgiving,
don't don't tread on thanks No, all right, exactly?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You give Thanksgiving room to breathe, yes, and nothing.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Nothing Christmas happens before Thanksgiving in my opinion, not even
decoration in our house.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Nothing, not decorations.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No, No Christmas decorations go up after Thanksgiving, all.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right, that's Thanksgiving. I mean, I'm not as hardline as
to prevent my wife from watching Christmas movies or putting
up decorations, because she's more on the side of the
earlier the better, But I kind of let her run
the house. So when it comes to stuff like that.
But uh so back to the topic at hand. How
much can you tell Hugh when Geno is changing a play?
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And do you see it a lot? Do you see
plays where you're like, you know what, I don't think
that was the play that was called and Geno checked
into either a run or probably more app to checking
into a pass.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I think there's time signs rather that are reliable indicators
of changing. Now, when you say change a play, that
could have a lot of subsets. Change the protection, it
could be changed, the wide receiver route it could be.
That would be one person that could be changed. The
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concept that would be two or more people in a
pass route working in conjunction. So I would say, yeah,
I mean you see it, and it's generally parameters are involved.
You don't just give you know, a guy willy nilly hey,
just change it whenever however you want. Is if we're
in this play and they show this look, then change
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it to that look, you know, And that's that standard.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean in the Orange Bowl, uh, you.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Know, all the line, all the the entire game was
called at the line of scrimmage, you know. But I
mean I'm under strict, strict pre you know, obviously I'm
in college. I'm under strict pretense. Okay, we got power check.
We're gonna run, power left. If we see this, we're
gonna run, power right. If we see that, you know,
but we're gonna you know, sweep check. We're gonna run
and if we see this, we go sweep left, sweep right,
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you know, trap trap check. Say so we had everything
was just a series of checks of two or three
plays at the line of scrimmage. So it's not it's
not hard. You don't have to be a grizzled veteran
to be able to handle that stuff. You just have
to be given clear parameters of of what you're looking
for in the front and and the the coverage rotations.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
When you see an offensive line as porous as the Seahawks,
you would think there would be play calls and that
would emphasize getting the ball out of the hands, play
calls that would emphasize maybe screen passes to let the line,
you know, let the defensive line through. It seems like
there hasn't been a ton of those, and also it
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seems like Gino loves to kind of step back in
the pocket, hold onto the ball, wait for routes to develop,
and that's not helping the offensive line either. Are those
Are those observations that you were having as well? Or
am I? Am I just reading too much into the
disasters that happened.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
No, Dick, I see that too.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I see signs that when I go back back and
watch the tape and I have you know, here's my
here's my three pages of notes from the ram game.
I'm great in Gino as if I was a quarterback
coach and just mindful of all the quarterback coaches I've had,
And when does he have what does he have minuses for?
Are they minus throws or they minus decisions? Where is
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he throwing the ball to the right guy? Are his
eyes in the wrong place based on the route? And
I would say yeah, I mean, you'll have a good
half a dozen plays every week on average of more
six to ten plays where you got minuses where you're
going to the wrong place, you're not seeing the defense.
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So those are disappointing. And as far as the pressure,
because this is a big topic in Seattle, if you're
a Seahawk fan, the play of the offensive line is
a big issue. And I don't know if we'll have
time to get I did a big breakdown on a
Chiefs line, and I think it would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I think it would be too because you mentioned the Chiefs.
I watched them on Monday night and Patrick Mahomes never
allows the defensive line to even get to him because
he gets the ball out of there so quickly.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, and we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
But here here's some stats that I find interested in
the NFL in their stat portal they often have Okay,
they break it down to two and a half seconds
are less getting rid of the ball, or two and
a half seconds and more, you know, or less less
than two and a half I should say, and two
and a half or more. And by the way, the
average of all quarterbacks of this year, and this is
consistent two point four five seconds. These are from from
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the pocket. Okay, just remember it's the average. Okay, And
so what now? This is six nine and seventy five
Like this is detailed. This is all the passes in
the NFL for twenty twenty eight. Example size sixty one
percent technically sixty point six sixty one percent of all
passes are are gone with less than two point five
seconds got me, which which means that the inverse is true.
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Obviously that thirty nine point four percent are two point
five or greater. If you say, okay, let's we're just
now going to talk about the times that that Geno
gets rid of the ball in two and a half
seconds or less, which again constitutes sixty sixty one percent
for NFL. And by the way, for Geno, it's it's
basically right at that's fifty nine point six exactly one
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percent of the office. So he's in terms of frequency,
he's average. He's he's right there at the average. Okay,
that the percent of times that you're going to be
pressured is seventeen point two percent of the time, and
Gino is twenty one point two percent of the time.
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So it's it's a little bit above average, but it's
it's thirteenth. He's the thirteenth most pressured. But it's it's
kind of closer to me. It's not egregious. And here
are quarterbacks that are pressured more again on pocket passes
two and a half seconds or less with the ball gum,
Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, I mean, think of that,
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Think how.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Widely esteemed that that offensive Brock Purty.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
C J.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Stroud, Kirk Cousins. So those are those are half a
dozen of the quarterbacks that have less time or excuse me,
let me strike that are pressured, more pressured with greater
frequency than Gino on the passes that are two point
five seconds or less, which again is right about sixty percent.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay, the majority, yep. Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Now let's now we're going to talk about only the
plays where the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Including Geno, obviously hold the.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Ball two and a half seconds or more, which is
miss we said, which is more onus on the quarterback
himself and the play call, and less onus on the
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
If those are if you're holding the ball longer.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, yes, yes, I mean it would be it would
be either scheme or the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
So now we're down to only forty percent of the places.
But Geno's pressure rate fifty four point nine percent, that's
number one in the NFL. The average is forty two
point eight. So what do we just say the average
went from the NFL average two and a half seconds
or less is seven seventeen point set percent pressured. If
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you hold it more than two and a half seconds,
the NFL average goes up to forty three percent. What's
the lesson, don't hold the ball. That's right, the QB hits.
Gino's got twenty hits. Again, this is the set of
two and a half seconds more. That's number one in
the NFL. The ever NFL average nine point three more.
He's more. He's getting hit more than double the time.
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But if we go back, I didn't. I didn't say
those numbers for the under two and a half. Now
I'm going back to the under. The two and a
half seconds got me where Gino is, just because I
need to give you the hits. He had seven hits,
and the NFL ouverages five point eight, not terribly off
his sack percentage. This is important. This is why I
went back. I'm back to under two and a half seconds.
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His Geno sack percent a sack percent is one point
six percent. That's twenty ninth out of thirty six guys
at qualifying quarterbacks. The NFL average is two and a
half percent. He's getting sacked at under the rate of
the average.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So long as he gets rid of it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Just what our eyes are telling us. Our eyes are
telling second round. Gino never gets swarmed under. It's always
when he's sitting back there looking around, and then the
pocket breaks down and he's done. So you know, he
was getting we got to redial Hue there, he's having
having a tough time here, and so I mean, I think,
I think what we're hearing there is that while the
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offensive line is taking a whole bunch of criticism from everybody,
that a lot of it has to do with how
long Gino is holding the ball and he needs to
help himself more, and Ryan Grubb needs to help Gino
out more by giving him more options to let the
ball go in inside of two and a half seconds
Rolling into the four o'clock hour. Now it's time to
get down to the nitty gritty with with Hugh Milling.
What I mean by nitty gritty, we're talking Seahawk football. So, Hugh,
when I was thinking about this conversation, and I was
thinking about the offense and the struggles that it has
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had for some reason, a cut from Ryan Grubb, a
conversation that Softie and I had face to face with Ryan.
Hugh was there too, there too, Okay, Hugh, you were
there too. Then you were sitting right by Ryan Grubb
when he said the following about his quarterback and how
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to help his quarterback have a better season.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Gino's throwing talent, arm talent, the way it comes out, accuracy.
You know, it's not a you get to know him
when you start watching him. You're at practice with him
now every day and you're like, hey, two years ago,
this guy led the league in completion percentage.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think he's I think he's an elite quarterback, and
I think that he has the traits to be able
to push the ball down the field, quick release, to
get accurate underneath throws, and great understanding the protection scheme.
He's he's a veteran guy like that's one of the
biggest assets is you come in and you have a
guy like Geno that can, you know, execute your protection
scheme and take care of himself. I got to make
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sure that, you know, like I said before, we take
care of Geno, And I think the first thing is
I would much rather overinvest in protection and keep us
up right and give ourselves a chance. You know, the
we had a couple of a B gap problems today
and that's that's exactly what you can't have his interior problems.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So let's get to a couple of those phrases that
he used. First of all, an elite quarterback. I've watched
nine games of Geno Smith this year, as we all have,
and I've seen an elite quarterback in the Atlanta game.
I've seen an elite quarterback for the most part, in
the Detroit game. I have not seen an elite quarterback
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in the other seven games that they have played, and
in fact, I have seen a less than good quarterback
in at least five, if not six, of the nine
games they have played. Is that a fair assessment from
what you've seen from Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, I think we're talking about two different subjects here,
because this was in August. He was talking about a
training camp, practice and what have you. And I'm a
firm believer in what Joe Paterno said. Now, we have
generally negative feelings and first intuitions about Paturner for obvious reasons,
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but he did do some good things. Yes, he said that,
and this is key. Your players are what they think
you think they are. And so I think that maybe
Greb is aware of that quote. Maybe he just intuitively
operates that way. But for him to be in the
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product of trying to ingest confidence in Geno, I totally
support that. So the fact that he described him as
an elite quarterback. Now, by the way, he earned a
Pro Bowl nod in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty three,
he was a third alternate. Yes, okay, so he was.
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He was the sixth guy in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Was all in twenty twenty two or was he actually
named quarterbacks in the NFC?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
He was one of the top three guys all right.
I hate to say when I was playing, but it
used to be that that they'd only have.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Two guys AFC two guys NFC.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Then they expanded it to three, so three guys are voted,
but Gino was the sixth and I can get you
the name of the other well, by the way, it
was Baker Makingfield was five and Jalen Hurts was four.
He was the third alternate the number six. So just
describe him as a Pro Bowl quarterback. I think he
is grossly misleading, at least for year two, a two year,
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two year Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now, the last thing that Ryan said in that quote,
we have to over invest in protecting Geno. Has he
done that?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, what he meant, and that was in response to
a question that I had had for him based on
all we have we know about Ryan Grubb is what
he's done is an OC at Washington and maybe to
a lesser extended Fresno state where you'd done a great
job with Jake Hayner, and what I had noted, and
there were stats to back it up. Last year in
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protecting Michael Pennix, there was a number of times if
you just say that when the opponent rushes for rushers,
which is a standard defense, by the way, standard pass
defense is rush for play coverage with seven whether you're
playing man demand combinations or zone combinations that if you
bring anything more than four, that's considered a blitz. If
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you drop eight and rush three, that's considered some type
of a loaded coverage. But a general's four and the
Huskies were far and away, way I had a higher
likelihood of keeping in a fifth or a sixth blocker,
an extra running back, an extra tight end, and only
sending you know, you know, Jalen and and and roam
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down the field, maybe three guys, maybe Jack Westover is
a late shackdown or something. But but it was what
I was describing as conservative blocking schemes. So my question
had been, is that something that you just philosophically do
that's what you do all the time, or is that
just the personnel. And so his response of hey, I
want to be.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Cautious in that regard. They have to answer the question.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They've they've kind of been at two extremes, and I
can get numbers to support that. They they have been
five out protection, a lot of shotgun five out protections
where if you have a running back back there, he's
he's not involved in the protection. He just quickly just
running a swing route or an era route into the
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flat or something or empty empty backfield would be of
course be a five out protection, right, So they've either
been that or the opposite end. They're more likely to
keep guys in double tight end stuff. Yeah, yeah, and
I think they've gotten a little bit away from that.
I know, from a shotgun standpoint, they have gone the
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first four games of the year they were in shotgun.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
A total of sixty six plays.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
In the last four games, and I know you're gonna
tell me there's been nine games. There's a middle game.
The last four they've been in shotgun thirty eight times.
So they are raising their level of shotgun, which I
think could be one of the factors that they self evaluate.
Certainly they self scout and their aware, and I think
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that those numbers probably need to change. I think that
Geno needs to be under center more. There's just things
from a running game standpoint, you can hit downhill, you
can hide the football from the defense. There's a little
bit of a you know, and certainly if you can
be Jared Goff in the play action game, or a
fraction of Jared Goff, why do I mention him. He's
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far and away the leader in the National Football League
under center play action Jared Goff has an ability as
a tall guy, turn his back to the defense, fake
it from having received the ball from under center, fake
the run, and then turn and quickly process what the
defense is and get rid of the ball. Play with anticipation,
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particularly over the middle. Golf is the master at that.
In modern day football, nobody's close. So when you think
of the effectiveness of the Lion offense, can the Huskies
be a little bit like that? There is evidence that
Gino has been a good play action quarterback in his past.
I think they probably need to bring more of that
in and do it from under center.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And to your point, and I'll try to add to
it here, it just seems like I'm gonna use the
word variability. It just doesn't seem like there's been a
lot of variaability creativity in Grub's offense to help take
pressure off Geno. And I'll just, you know, give you
some examples, you know, pre snap motion. God, we see
it from the rams all the time. I love it,
you know, with the fly sweeps, the fake fly sweeps, RPOs,
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passing on running downs, passing and running formations, running on
passing downs, running in passing formations, you know, those type
of things that you just that that keep the defense
off balance. I just feel like it's boom. Hawks are
in shotgun, They're gonna throw two thirds of the time.
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Come and get us, you know, just you know, get
in your get in your two point stance and just
come after Geno Smith because we're not gonna do anything else.
Is that a fair criticism? Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, the numbers are the numbers.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, they're they're in a high degree of shotgun and
they're passing out of shotgun.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There is a propensity.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yes, Now some of their best running efforts have been
out of shotgun as well, just because they're a high
shotgun team. Maybe after the commercial will give you the propensity.
But I know that a couple of weeks ago they
were in the top three in the league in terms
of their percentage that they were in shotgun. So yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair. Now I think that I think
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Ryan Greb's trying to find himself. I'm I remain a fan,
and it's not just because he's a local Husky guy.
I just think what he has done has shown me
that that he knows football and if you get the
parts around, you know, I think they've got a big
time offensive line prom I mean a good parson of
this portion of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You played with their four string offensive tackle right right.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You got a left tackle I think is overrated in
Charles Cross. I know he gets good grades, but he's
in the least apa Gino constantly, even though he's executing
his block, his guy is not making the sack or
or even necessarily the hurry. But I think it's disruptive,
and so I think, you know, you take the three
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elite tackles that the Seahawks have taken in the top ten,
There's Walter.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Jones is one of one. You know, he was the
sixth overall pick.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Russell Lokong was in my mind also a six round pick,
but in my mind, you know, obviously just a mere
fraction of Walter Jones, but he didn't give him a
second contract o' kong. I think Charles crossed the ninth
overall pick. Though again those are your franchise three left tackles.
I think Charles Cross is a good bit less than
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Russell o'couhm, interesting at least this far in his career.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That's just my assessment.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
There was a great, great quote by a guy that
I know you respect a lot. I respect him a lot.
Greg Cosell this morning, he was on with he was
on with Colin Coward and he said, and he was
referring to Jalen her when he was talking about this,
who are dead last in past percentage in the NFL
forty five percent. He said, coaches and coordinators will tell
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you what they think about their quarterback by how they
use them and the type of offense that they run.
And he was referring to Jalen Hurts. They obviously don't
have a lot of faith in Jalen Hurts. They run
it more frequently now they do have Sakwon Barkley, so
that's going to, you know, tip the scales a little bit.
But they run it more than any other team in
the league. And it seems to me like the Hawks
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are the opposite. I mean, we heard the word elite
come out of Ryan Grubb's mouth. Yeah, I understand he's
I understand your point. He's trying to pump up his quarterback.
But I don't hear a lot of coordinators and head
coaches calling their quarterbacks elite if they're not really elite.
I don't hear a lot of you know, Brian Daboles
saying Daniel Jones as elite. I don't see. I don't
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hear a lot of you know, those other quarterbacks that
are in that twelve to eighteen range in the NFL
is as starters. It came out of Ryan Grubb's mouth
and he uses it, seems Geno Smith as an elite quarterback.
Should he be?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, that's more important than what he said. What he
said again, you and I may have to disagree, but
I don't put any stock in what he said in
August calling him a leak guy.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know, that's just as I said.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I've made not my opinion clear on that, but as
a potent purports to run percentage now and you can
see I'm smiling and winking here, tell me yes or no.
Did did the presentation that I had for you about
the correlation of running in first three quarters?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Have I?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Have I changed your mind on and presented the facts
to you to show that. The takeaway is that you
can't just say, well, they aggregate run past ratio because
and then correlate that to the winning test. Because the
winning because what we did, what we proved on Friday
for those who didn't hear it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I'm not going to go through the numbers.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Again, but it's astonishing that when you break down the
running on quarters one, two, and three, presumably when the
game is still in doubt, the teams that throw the
most have the highest pass ratio. They're the teams that
are winning. And we broke it down into two since
the beginning twenty to twenty twenty two because that was
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the first year of Geno being the starter quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
But we also did another one going.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Back to twenty fifteen just because that's ten years and
ten years as our a round number.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It did you? You did? You absolutely affected my thought
in passing to win and then running to passing to
get ahead and running to win. Having said that, I'm
sitting at Husky Stadium on Saturday night, and my god,
if Lincoln Riley was my head coach and he was
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ignoring what he marks the entire first half and playing
very Ryan grubby in first half football, schucking it around
seventy percent of the time, I would have pulled my
hair out and I would have been on Twitter swearing
at my offensive coordinator and head coach because that's the
type of offense I don't like is when you have
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a stud running back like Woody Marx and you just
let him go.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I agree, And you heard me my opinion about Woody
Mark's Woody Marx, I said on Friday before the SC game,
other than Gentry at Boise State, He's the best running
back I have seen. And I emphasize I haven't seen
them all. I can't watch all the games. But the
best running back I've seen this Woody Marks, is the
freaking dude. You know, like, think of all I'm flashing
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back to all the great SC tailbacks that I've seen
in the last fifty plus years. And I'm not saying
he's OJ Simpson or Mark you know, he's Mark Sallin.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But but that dude is a freaking dude. And so
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And and but that that does not disprove because correlation
positive correlation, will say LI in a world just like
batting average between zero and one, you say, what, well,
when when Edgar hits three fifteen, he's really hitting point three,
one point five, which is obviously we know intuitively thirty
one and.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
A half percent of the time he's getting a hit.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, correlation lives in the that doesn't mean just because
you're really good doesn't mean you you bat a thousand. Well,
same with positive correlation. You can have a high correlation
with you know six seventy, which exceed batting averages, you
know seven eighty eight, eight fifty. There's things that have
a correlation winning of eight fifty, but it's not one thousand,
which means there's a fifteen percent variable. And guess what
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the fifteen percent variable if you had an eight to
fifty correlation.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's for knuckleheads like Lincoln Riley, Like.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You're presiding in the in the in the top one
fifty where you are throwing a lot, but you ain't
winning a lot, and you are a fool for not
running more. He marks right, So just so we understand
that that core exceptions to the correlation don't proved.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The correlation numbers are what they are.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But I kind of feel like Grub is a little
bit like Lincoln Riley this year winning a lot and
we're not running a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Well, I get it. The times. The problem is is
what's the most recent game on on I know, I'm
I'm thinking of this a stat that I know for
a game for all.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Of the the.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The neutral downs first and ten or second one to six.
Those those those interior that should be the playbook wide open.
Nine rushes for knin excuse me, six rushes for k
nine nine yards one point five yards. Pretend that's a
lot of second n He's been trying the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You know, and and and so it's his job to
keep the punter off the field. And when he keeps
facing second and nine and second and eight, he's like, dude,
we just can't run like and this is a vaccine challenge.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I've said it.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I've stood next to offensive coordinators, I've seen I've heard
the conversations. I think it is the number one most
mystifying aspect of being a play caller in the National
Football League. Exactly is that do we keep running, investing
body blows and expect it somehow? You know in the
fourth quarter, it's gonna break loose and we're gonna get
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some big runs and we're gonna tire people out, soften
them up. This, that and the other create a run
pass balance that allows us to be effective in the
passing game. Or am I gonna sit here and face
second and nine behind the chains and keep and our
punters gonna you know, you know, be on the field
like nine times.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think it depends on the talent, I think. And
we got to get to a breakover. We're gonna come
right back to this. I think depends on the talent
of your back. If you have Derrick Henry and he
happens to have twelve carries for nineteen yards in the
first half, you sure as hell give him twelve more
or more in the in the second half because he's
gonna same thing with ken Walker. Ken Walker is such
an a elite, make you miss type guy. You can
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have seven or eight nine carries that nets you fifteen yards,
but eventually the twenty two yarder and the twenty eight
yard are gonna come. We'll take a time out. I
want to ask you when we come back. Is Gino
hurting himself and hurting his offensive line by how long
he holds the football before he throws down Phil do
that more next on ninety three point three KJRFM Live
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from the R and.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie and
Dick on your Home for the Huskies and the Kraken
Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's too early, Dick, It's too early, too early for
Christmas movie November. I came home last night from basketball practice.
My wife and my daughter were watching The Holiday, and
I was like, is this a Christmas movie?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, it is The Jack Black and yeah. No, is
that's a Christmas movie? No, it's November rom com that
kind of happens during Christmas. Because I ended up watching
like the last forty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
See, my my barometer is Diehard's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
A lot of things are Christmas movies. When do you
start watching Christmas movies?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Hugh, I don't know, but I would say that Thanksgiving,
don't don't tread on thanks No, all right, exactly?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You give Thanksgiving room to breathe, yes, and nothing.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Nothing Christmas happens before Thanksgiving in my opinion, not even
decoration in our house.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Nothing, not decorations.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No, No Christmas decorations go up after Thanksgiving, all.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right, that's Thanksgiving. I mean, I'm not as hardline as
to prevent my wife from watching Christmas movies or putting
up decorations, because she's more on the side of the
earlier the better, But I kind of let her run
the house. So when it comes to stuff like that.
But uh so back to the topic at hand. How
much can you tell Hugh when Geno is changing a play?
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And do you see it a lot? Do you see
plays where you're like, you know what, I don't think
that was the play that was called and Geno checked
into either a run or probably more app to checking
into a pass.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I think there's time signs rather that are reliable indicators
of changing. Now, when you say change a play, that
could have a lot of subsets. Change the protection, it
could be changed, the wide receiver route it could be.
That would be one person that could be changed. The
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concept that would be two or more people in a
pass route working in conjunction. So I would say, yeah,
I mean you see it, and it's generally parameters are involved.
You don't just give you know, a guy willy nilly hey,
just change it whenever however you want. Is if we're
in this play and they show this look, then change
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it to that look, you know, And that's that standard.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean in the Orange Bowl, uh, you.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Know, all the line, all the the entire game was
called at the line of scrimmage, you know. But I
mean I'm under strict, strict pre you know, obviously I'm
in college. I'm under strict pretense. Okay, we got power check.
We're gonna run, power left. If we see this, we're
gonna run, power right. If we see that, you know,
but we're gonna you know, sweep check. We're gonna run
and if we see this, we go sweep left, sweep right,
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you know, trap trap check. Say so we had everything
was just a series of checks of two or three
plays at the line of scrimmage. So it's not it's
not hard. You don't have to be a grizzled veteran
to be able to handle that stuff. You just have
to be given clear parameters of of what you're looking
for in the front and and the the coverage rotations.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
When you see an offensive line as porous as the Seahawks,
you would think there would be play calls and that
would emphasize getting the ball out of the hands, play
calls that would emphasize maybe screen passes to let the line,
you know, let the defensive line through. It seems like
there hasn't been a ton of those, and also it
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seems like Gino loves to kind of step back in
the pocket, hold onto the ball, wait for routes to develop,
and that's not helping the offensive line either. Are those
Are those observations that you were having as well? Or
am I? Am I just reading too much into the
disasters that happened.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
No, Dick, I see that too.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I see signs that when I go back back and
watch the tape and I have you know, here's my
here's my three pages of notes from the ram game.
I'm great in Gino as if I was a quarterback
coach and just mindful of all the quarterback coaches I've had,
And when does he have what does he have minuses for?
Are they minus throws or they minus decisions? Where is
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he throwing the ball to the right guy? Are his
eyes in the wrong place based on the route? And
I would say yeah, I mean, you'll have a good
half a dozen plays every week on average of more
six to ten plays where you got minuses where you're
going to the wrong place, you're not seeing the defense.
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So those are disappointing. And as far as the pressure,
because this is a big topic in Seattle, if you're
a Seahawk fan, the play of the offensive line is
a big issue. And I don't know if we'll have
time to get I did a big breakdown on a
Chiefs line, and I think it would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I think it would be too because you mentioned the Chiefs.
I watched them on Monday night and Patrick Mahomes never
allows the defensive line to even get to him because
he gets the ball out of there so quickly.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, and we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
But here here's some stats that I find interested in
the NFL in their stat portal they often have Okay,
they break it down to two and a half seconds
are less getting rid of the ball, or two and
a half seconds and more, you know, or less less
than two and a half I should say, and two
and a half or more. And by the way, the
average of all quarterbacks of this year, and this is
consistent two point four five seconds. These are from from
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the pocket. Okay, just remember it's the average. Okay, And
so what now? This is six nine and seventy five
Like this is detailed. This is all the passes in
the NFL for twenty twenty eight. Example size sixty one
percent technically sixty point six sixty one percent of all
passes are are gone with less than two point five
seconds got me, which which means that the inverse is true.
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Obviously that thirty nine point four percent are two point
five or greater. If you say, okay, let's we're just
now going to talk about the times that that Geno
gets rid of the ball in two and a half
seconds or less, which again constitutes sixty sixty one percent
for NFL. And by the way, for Geno, it's it's
basically right at that's fifty nine point six exactly one
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percent of the office. So he's in terms of frequency,
he's average. He's he's right there at the average. Okay,
that the percent of times that you're going to be
pressured is seventeen point two percent of the time, and
Gino is twenty one point two percent of the time.
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So it's it's a little bit above average, but it's
it's thirteenth. He's the thirteenth most pressured. But it's it's
kind of closer to me. It's not egregious. And here
are quarterbacks that are pressured more again on pocket passes
two and a half seconds or less with the ball gum,
Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, I mean, think of that,
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Think how.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Widely esteemed that that offensive Brock Purty.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
C J.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Stroud, Kirk Cousins. So those are those are half a
dozen of the quarterbacks that have less time or excuse me,
let me strike that are pressured, more pressured with greater
frequency than Gino on the passes that are two point
five seconds or less, which again is right about sixty percent.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay, the majority, yep. Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Now let's now we're going to talk about only the
plays where the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Including Geno, obviously hold the.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Ball two and a half seconds or more, which is
miss we said, which is more onus on the quarterback
himself and the play call, and less onus on the
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
If those are if you're holding the ball longer.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, yes, yes, I mean it would be it would
be either scheme or the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
So now we're down to only forty percent of the places.
But Geno's pressure rate fifty four point nine percent, that's
number one in the NFL. The average is forty two
point eight. So what do we just say the average
went from the NFL average two and a half seconds
or less is seven seventeen point set percent pressured. If
(27:03):
you hold it more than two and a half seconds,
the NFL average goes up to forty three percent. What's
the lesson, don't hold the ball. That's right, the QB hits.
Gino's got twenty hits. Again, this is the set of
two and a half seconds more. That's number one in
the NFL. The ever NFL average nine point three more.
He's more. He's getting hit more than double the time.
(27:26):
But if we go back, I didn't. I didn't say
those numbers for the under two and a half. Now
I'm going back to the under. The two and a
half seconds got me where Gino is, just because I
need to give you the hits. He had seven hits,
and the NFL ouverages five point eight, not terribly off
his sack percentage. This is important. This is why I
went back. I'm back to under two and a half seconds.
(27:46):
His Geno sack percent a sack percent is one point
six percent. That's twenty ninth out of thirty six guys
at qualifying quarterbacks. The NFL average is two and a
half percent. He's getting sacked at under the rate of
the average.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So long as he gets rid of it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Just what our eyes are telling us. Our eyes are
telling second round. Gino never gets swarmed under. It's always
when he's sitting back there looking around, and then the
pocket breaks down and he's done. So you know, he
was getting we got to redial Hue there, he's having
having a tough time here, and so I mean, I think,
I think what we're hearing there is that while the
(28:24):
offensive line is taking a whole bunch of criticism from everybody,
that a lot of it has to do with how
long Gino is holding the ball and he needs to
help himself more, and Ryan Grubb needs to help Gino
out more by giving him more options to let the
ball go in inside of two and a half seconds
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