December 1, 2025 • 34 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk with Hugh Millen about the Seahawks shutout win over the Vikings and the Huskies loss to the Ducks, then play the Opponent Audio Recap of the Hawks win with Vikings’ broadcaster Paul Allen on KFAN.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Little more at four.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I heard this guy this morning on the morning show,
and I found myself walking away impressed, but just needed
a little more, just to live, just to titch more.
And here he is to deliver more at four. Our
friend Huey Millan, how are you, man?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Boys?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Not much?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Lots to talk about Seahawks yesterday, Huskies and Ducks on
on Saturday. But why don't we to start with what
we saw yesterday at lumen Field. First shut out for
the Seahawks in ten years when they amazingly beat the Bears.
Also twenty six to nothing ten years ago. That is crazy.
Apparently Jackson Feltz's wife was at both those games. The
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last two Seahawk games that rise of Felts have been
to have been twenty six nothing victories by the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Figure that she's.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Doing on December eighteen, Oh man, she should be at
every Seahawk game they play the rest of the way.
But what was the view for you from forty thousand
feet on yesterday Seahawk win?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, I think that you know, the defense just cantinues
to you know, they're healthier, they play together, they're tied together.
You know, the pick six was, you know, a thing
of beauty in terms of the scheming and what have you. Obviously,
they played on a rookie, undrafted quarterback, and that's just
sometimes the benefits you get when you play a seventeen
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game schedule. But credit them. They they looked as dominant
as you could possibly look. And then you know, I
think there's a little bit of concern creeping in on
the offensive side of the ball. The Seahawks have played,
obviously twelve games, break that in half, the first six games,
the second six games. Sam Darnold's QBR, which is a
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little bit higher correlation to winning than even passer rating,
which has a pretty good correlation. In the last six games,
he's had four of his worst five. If that doesn't
confuse he is. So I think that there's been a
little bit of a tail off, and it's not just him.
I think that the offense around him. You know, it's
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a little bit concerning that they've kind of been going
through some mud offensively well.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Going into the game.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
His passer rating against the Blitz was seventy four and
against no Blitz was one hundred and seventeen, So there
was a massive gap. I imagine that gap is even
larger now after this one. Do you have faith that
that can change? And will we just see more of
the blitz until it does from teams maybe that aren't
as suited to blitz as Minnesota was.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, the Vikings are pretty unique. They were number one
in the NFL in the use of the three to four,
and just as a boilerplate statement about the three four,
if you're going against a team, even if they don't blitz,
they're going to rush their three and then of the
four linebackers, they can rush either of the edges or
even an inside backer, and that can create a four
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man rush. It feels a little bit like a blitz
because a linebacker's coming, but it's only a four man rush.
So even is a generic statement, it's a little bit
more difficult to handle a three to four. I think
that's a general rule most would agree. And then and
then when you consider what the Vikings do with it,
they're they're again number one in the NFL in the
use of three four, but they are number one in
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terms of the percentage of their plays that produce a pressure.
And so they they have a certain style that they play.
Their use of of Nickel is dead last thirty seconds.
So they keep these big linebackers out there. They and
they walk up tough. Some people call it a mug,
but tough as a term. Also, where you got seven
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eight guys on the line of scrimmage, you don't know
who's coming or who's pop popping back into coverage. They
do a real good job with that. They've created mayhem
for them. But you know what, Penn State did that
against Washington and obviously in twenty twenty four, and you'd say, whoa,
you just provided a blueplant print. Well, if you're if
that's not something philosophically that you do, you know, I
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think most teams aren't gonna upset what they do. But
there may be a team along the way that is
somewhat similar to the way Minnesota does, not all the way,
but somewhat similar. And then they'll say, Okay, we got
some traction we can make. Let's let's do what the
Vikings did. But not every team is going to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, what did they do to take away Jackson Smith,
then Jigba finally yesterday? And is that repeatable by other teams?
Does that concern you?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, they played mostly most of all of the plays
were zone pressures, and so they in zone, they knew
where number eleven was going, and they there were some
opportunities elsewhere. There were times where if I was quarterback
coaching Darnold, I'd say, okay, the rotation actually rotated the
cup due to the formation in the hash mark. Here,
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you've got an opportunity of Jackson Smith on a slant.
The ball should have gone to JSN. There was a
what's called a wrap route, some people call it a
hammer where you have a shallow guy to influence the
hook defender. That's like the second basement or shortstop in
an infield. Get the second baseman to bite up on
the shallow and then throw it in behind it right
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over second base to carry out the analogy. There was
a great opportunity. I think where Darnold has been his
best is when he uses his eyes, like, hey, let
me pull you down here, and then I know that
I'm coming right back into that intermediate dig for a
nice twelve fourteen yard completion aar yards and maybe more
with yak he didn't do that. I think he was
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feeling the pressure to get the ball out. So some
of the normal the normal pocket presence and eye manipulation,
things that we've seen from him earlier in the year.
You just didn't see a lot of that. I think
my conjecture, I'm not in his head, but my conjecture
as he felt like the time clock was sped up
and he's just got to get the ball out.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Here, we talked after the LA game about you know, Sam,
just just take the sack, right, don't throw the interception,
just take the sack. Well, now he's taking the sacks,
but he's also putting the ball in the ground.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
When he's taking his sacks a couple of times and
they lost on them.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Me, do we give him?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And he credited all for just taking the sacks yesterday
instead of just trying to chuck one up. But how
do you think he handled that pressure as far as
either throwing it versus eating it?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, I draw a clear distinction on fumbles by the
quarterback in the pocket. When you're going to throw the
ball and your hands separate and you're in the mid throw.
If your arm gets hit there, it's almost assuredly coming out.
Your best chances is to either be aware that it's
coming or block better, like for example, the Bosa play
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that started the season, you know, the wreck the game.
You know, Darnold's already in the action of throwing. He's
looking off to his left, he's throwing to the flat,
everything collapses to his right. It's out outside of his vision.
But yesterday and he and he's had other fumbles like
that where he's in the act of throwing. Yesterday, in
both of those situations, he's in the pocket, he has
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two hands on the ball. And now now the one
with with Dallas Turner and he got smoked out. That's
terrible communication. Yeah, you know up, you know with Nick
caliup a young tight end and and so as Donald's
looking to his left. If if he doesn't, if his
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peripheral vision doesn't see or feel that, then then he's
he's gonna be susceptible to a a fumble. Uh. The
other one, I'd be probably more critical of him. Hey,
keep two on hands on a beef. Let's be firm
with that thing actor throwing. I get it, But but
those type of fumbles, Yeah, it's just starting to be
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a concern.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I just thought it was a bad day for protection.
I mean, I don't know Charbonne had a bad day
for protection. You mentioned collar up there not even having
a clue, uh what he's doing. Charles Cross got beat
on on one sack I think in the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So I mean, this is not just all on Donald.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Anybody's sitting back there under that kind of press sure
is eventually gonna start turning the ball over. So what
does Kubiak have to do to fix that up front?
Never mind the quarterback? How about talking about your line?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, well Kubiak was just one step behind Brian Flores
and you know they they he would try and max
it up, keep two tight ends in block the edges.
He tried to five out protection. Uh they they were
just release Kenneth Walker on a swing route. But then
the end, uh, you know he's he's gonna deny. You know,
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he's gonna kind of do a semi what's called peel
where he's gonna smack any five out protection meaning that
the back is immediately and in the protection the overloads,
where he would he would just you know, you know,
line up guys in the A gap and I'll tell
you what, it's tough playing quarterback when they're we're in
they're blitzing guys in the a gap that's between the
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center and the guard, and you're running back as to
come from depth to to block him. That is very unnerving.
And you know, Jim only he's gonna end up in
your lap like it did often.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know, the case for Charbonnay drives me crazy that
he refuses to block with his left shoulder. And so
so if he if he's on the left side, he
and and he's gonna step up on the a gap,
he uses his right shoulder. And so so.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He's heard, is he heard?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't know, you know, sometimes it's just a guy's
dominant hand. I assume I haven't seen him throw a
football or or or skip rocks at a river, So
I don't know if he's right hand at all. Assume
he is. And some guys just feel stronger with the
right shoulder. But I, I literally I can't find a
rep with him blocking with his left shoulder. And so
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sometimes that's okay if you're coming from the right and
you want to keep your head closer to the center line. Uh.
And and then if you're gonna lose the block, lose
the block to the outside to to your right shoulder,
that's fine. But if you're on the left side and
you use your right shoulder. Now you're more likely to
get beat on the right shoulder, but that's the straight
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path to the quarterback. So I think that there's some
fundament you know, the very first UH pass, well, the
first pass of the game was the smoke a little
screen out there to UH to Canine. And by the way,
he could have thrown the JSN on a slant there,
but I'm not going to complain. What was it fourteen
yards first play of the game, Dick, I don't know.
Do you have the play by play with you know,
twelve yards?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, keep going.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But you know, it's an excellent point, David. But but
then the second play of the game was they rushed
six and H and Canine. You know they're they're turning
the protection. Canine is on a on a safety on
the blitz. He ends up losing it. That that alone
forces Donald aft to to UH to evade the pocket
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and throw out of bounds. And by the way, so
for Donald here he has UH. He has twelve incompletions
on the day, he had four bat passes, three throwaways,
and a drop. So on him was only four incompletions.
But you know there there, there really wasn't a lot
to enjoy from the passing game. And you're right, David,
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it was really poor up front and and and if
I said, okay, describe in five seconds what the Vikings
did that they had that the Seahawks have to be
ready for. They had multiple players on the line, screamers.
It almost looked like a punt block. And then they're
playing not man from that blitz look, but zone behind it,
a whole array of zone coverages. I'm not going to
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get into, but they have the illusion of six, seven,
eight guys that are gonna rush and I just took
well more than five seconds, but then two or three
guys drop out into zone coverage. You don't know which
guys are going to pop out, and that communication was
very poor and the execution, so that that's gonna be
a long mental work. A lot of walkthroughs this week,
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an extra walkthrough duty on how to handle that stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Mentally, I'm seeing nick em and worry all over the
field again. Now, he did have the stupid unsportsm like
conduct penalty, but other than that, he was making plays everywhere.
Have you seen enough film on Nick to know what
he is best at right now, Like, if you could
just isolate one thing that this guy is best at,
what do you think it is?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Barely got beat on the Hockinson seam route for twenty
seven yards and so he's outside leverage. He'll be better
in that. I think what he's best at.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He had a real.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Instinctive play on the eighty five yard pick six that
Ernest Jones had. You know, there's zone coverage. You're trying
to get the Jones the halfback in the flat, but
there's also Jordan Addison is going to be running a
corner out. I think that Emon Worry had the sense, hey,
wolln you got the flat, all sink back into the
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corner route to help Kobe Bryant. I see some instinctive
plays by him. But I think what he's best at
is he he can make up for any misread, Like
if he's a tick late right now because he's a
rookie on something. When he decides to go from point
A to point B, he gets there really fast. He
covers ground, and he's long, he tackles well, he's uh uh,
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you know. His length really impacts how he can cover.
So I just think I just love watching him play
because to see such a uh, fluid athlete at that
size who has that kind of short range acceleration very rare.
He's a fun guy to watch.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What happened on that pick six by brosmer.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, I'll say from the Vikings perspective, they they're trying
to they're trying to do roll out the quarterback right
handed quarterback, uh, to the right side, and and they're
and they're gonna they're gonna fake, but they're gonna fake
it to the fullback who's in a strong eye what
I call king formation, and and the fullback is gonna
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go to the weak side away from the quarterback's role.
That was isn't much of a of a I don't
know of a cheese, you know for the mouse. And
so when the halfback from his half backed position just
sprints out to the flat, you better hope that's man
coverage and that they don't know how to pass things
off because the linebacker would have it in man coverage
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and you know, Seattle zoned it off and uh. And
then you had de Marcus Lawrence. He's in what's called
the six eye technique. Ins I'd say that the tight end,
that the tight end goes down down blocks and and
you're trying to influence de Marcus Lawrence. But he doesn't
go down with the tight end. He goes straight up
the field because he recognizes that not the boot naked
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UH sprint out, but rather the role sprint out. So
it's the type of action in the backfield that split
action UH poorly conceived, at least certainly for the defense
Seattle was in. And and it was reminiscent. And I
went back and I said, I remember that play well
against the Giants lst year Dick. Remember our post game
win ye when on the fourth and one in the
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fourth quarter, back on Seattle's own thirty fives, the Seahawks
went for Geno Smith, ran the exact same play from
the exact same formation, King Wright the exact play, and
Brian Burns. Brian Burns, their defensive end, got straight up
the field just like the Marcus launched it and sacked
Geno Smith for about I was a loss of eight
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on fourth and one in the fourth quarter, down seven,
So that was maybe the play of the game. And
you know, it looked very similar And credit Marcus Lawrence
and and Ernstone just happened to be at the right
place at the right time.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Hey, let's say get a quick break here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I want to come back and talk about what you
saw from the Dogs and Ducks on Saturday. And plus,
I think it might be appropriate to get a quick
and I mean quick take from you on the Lane
Kiffin thing with him taking off leaving all miss before
the playoffs starts to go coach it las year. We'll
have a little more with Hugh Millan and then the
opponent audio recap.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We haven't done that in a long time. Baby.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
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Radio yesterday to have us bring it back. You'll hear
that at four forty five today on ninety three three
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
All right back here on a Monday afternoon and Giants
Patriots coming up pre game five kickoff five fifteen. We'll
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Paul Allen. Yeah, Baby, coming up four forty five. Get
to hear what yesterday's dominant Seahawk win sounded like on
Minnesota radio with the best PA in about twenty minutes
fifteen minutes from now. But Hugh Millan rejoins us, Hugh,
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let's go back to Saturday Husky Stadium, Oregon Ducks get
to win over you, dub I thought it was a
bad day for Jet Fish, bad day for Demin william
What was your big takeaway from Saturday afternoon?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, you've got Demond Williams in the passing game just
not getting the job done. And you know it's kind
of a continuation. If you just take power forour conference play,
there are fifty six quarterbacks in the Power four that
have fifty or more attempts and playing against top twenty
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five defenses. The Huskies did that for four games. Demon
Williams on the EPA per dropback, which has the highest
correlation winning. Of thirty quarterback stats that I've seen, Demond
is fifty first out of fifty six, and of the
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top twenty four qualifiers, he's twenty fourth out of twenty four.
So you know, so the Huskies they either played they
played four top twenty five teams. This is out of
sixty seven Power four Conferences teams and or the other
five were in the bottom twenty Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, Wreckerds, UCLA,
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we're all in the bottom twenty. So so I think
he built up his numbers. And and you know, one
of the big takeaways for me is when you watch
his drop back, he wants to get depth. Will he
will routinely get to ten to eleven yards and bounce.
He's you know, he has a false start with his
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left foot. A lot of quarterbacks do it, no big deal.
But like a three step drop is actually a four
step drop, a five step drop is actually six because
he state takes that left foot and he gets a
lot of depth because he's a springy athlete. But he
sits there and he's straddling a position about ten yards.
And what that does is it just the balls in
the air longer. I mean, just as a thought experiment,
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imagine if all the defenders out there in pass coverage,
if you could put a tennis racket in each of
their hands. Now that sounds absurd, but I want you
to absorb how how long they would be and how
they could bat down passes well when you're throwing the
ball from a yard and a half further back, you're
ten yards as opposed. I went and I just picked
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one guy, Fernanda Mendoza, and I looked at a bunch
of his tape today looking at what he will get
nine yards and then I'll immediately pop and they'll be
straddling in about eight seven and a half yards. So
when he throws the balls in the air less, the
defenders have less time to react with the ball. You get
more yards after the catch, and so for demand to
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want to be back there, I presume it's because he
can't see. And you take in conference between the hashes,
this is all Conference quarterbacks throwing between the hashes. This
is all defenses, the good ones and the bad ones.
Air yards five to twenty yards. Those are the intermediate
over the middle. EPA per drop back demand is fifty
six out of seventieth. So he's not efficient thrown over
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the middle. That's what you would expect from a shorter
quarterback right this depth where he's residing. And then furthermore,
the offensive tackles, they want to send those edge rushers
and let them crawl around and make it a tight
hoop you want to be at about seven eight yards
to make it easy on the tackles. When you are
consistently at ten yards those angles, for those edge rushers,
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it's a lot easier to get to the spot to
the quarterback. So I think that's something that absolutely has
to be addressed. He's got to be closer to the
line of scrimmage. I don't know if he wants to
be because of his height.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
He it just seemed like we kept beating our head
against the wall on first down with the pass. I mean,
Deman was two for eight on first down with two
interceptions and two sacks. Meanwhile, they averaged seven point five
seven yards per carry on fourteen rushes on first down.
Why wasn't it just shut down at some point and
they just say, you know what, week the one dimension
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is working, Why don't we just be one dimensional here?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I don't have a great answer. I just think you've
got a guy that you know is drawn to the
passing game in the play caller and Jed Fish, and
that would be the best answer I'd give you. I
think he just, you know, he wants to win with
the you know, the pizazz of the passing game. But
I thought Adam Muhammad. We all saw it. There was
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a lot of explosiveness there. He was running very physical
and running very quick. So yeah, I agree with you there.
I would love to hear him answer that question.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, the interception in the first quarter, they had two
great runs by Mohammad to the twenty one yard line
after the personal foul gave the Huskies the ball at
the Oregon what I think forty four yard line, and
then Deman Williams just throws an ill advised pass into
double coverage. Way underthrown obviously, What did you see on
that pick and why was that ball thrown?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, well it's first and ten. You're trying to take
a shot. Same thing we talked about in the Way
Wisconsin game on the double move where he forced it
up the sideline. But I don't like the structure of
the play. Let me, I think it's poor play design.
The ball's on the left. Hash you got Boston is
what's called the number three receiver. You're just counting from
the outside in. They're trying to do a fake smoke
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screen and then Boston he's gonna stalk on the flat
defender and then run a wheel. Boston when the ball
was snapped was four yards inside of the right hash.
That means he was twenty four yards from the sideline.
He then had to get so much with to be
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able to He's stalking like he's blocking on a smoke
screen and you're throwing that to Rayven's fine bright number two.
So Vine's bright. He steps back and you're faking like
you're throwing a wide receiver screen. But you had Boston
so close to the middle of the field. He had
so much with that that the defenders could react based
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on how much with Boston had to gain in addition
to try and get up the field. So you look
at a safety. The safety was a yard outside the hash.
That means he had five yards of a lateral head
start to beat him. So the safety sees this, and
but he's already in a position to make a play
on the ball. In addition to they had Roebuck was
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the number one receiver. He didn't do a stutter block
to try and sell it. He ran a straight glance,
five step post route to the inside, and so the
safety to that side, he doesn't really feel the fake smoke.
He sees Boston, who's way inside might as well been
you know, toe to toe with as a party the
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right tackle. I'm exaggerating, but that's what he sees, is
like he has so much with the game, so the
safety was able to make a play on it. I
just think trying to throw a wheel route to number
three after a stutter stock faking in number two with
that spacing, I thought it was very poor and absolutely contributed.
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Why else would a big old linebacker be the run
with Boston because he because of all the width that
Boston had to gain. I don't like the play design whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
H there was maybe two three minutes of real time
there that we actually believed in the stadium that we
could and maybe even.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Would win the football game.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I mean, we're down by less than a touchdown, and
you get a stop on first, you get a stop
on second, and then third and medium, third and long,
you give up the long touchdown pass. What in the
world happened there? It seemed like I think it was
Dylan Robinson looked like he was about fifteen yards away
from the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, yeah, you know, he's just running a deep in
what a lightning bolt? He runs a deep in Seattle's
in Seattle. The Huskies are in a three D four
under and I think there's a little bit of an
irony here. We spent last segment talking about how the
Vikings did all the you they had all those defenders
on the line of scrimmage. The Huskies had six defenders
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as well, and they drop off and the the hook
zone defender I referenced the second baseman, Zyriel Alexander. He
is the hooked zone defender. So but he lined up
on the line of scrimmage. So at the snap of
the ball, what the Huskies were trying to accomplish with
the disguise, they lost in terms of the positioning of
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where those hook zone defenders could be. So so Alexander
couldn't get underneath that deep end route, and and so
you get the completion there, and then you had terrible
angles by Dylan Robinson and a fe's in price sock,
you know, and and that guy that that's one of
the most impressive lightning bolts I've seen by a receiver
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to just you know, to put on the turbo jets.
But but yeah, that that that really hurt because you know,
third and nine, obviously it's the play of the game,
no doubt. I just would have loved to have had
one offensive possession, down five in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
We got a minute left, all right, that's sixty seconds, pal,
Lane Kiffin boulting Ole miss in the middle of a
playoff run for LSU.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What'd you make of that?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I think it's a really bad look, more so
for college football as an enterprise, that they have this
calendar the way they do, and and and just remember
now the contracts that NFL coaches sign, that is with
the league. There is a one big governing body, So
all of that is with the league. The coaches who
sign contracts in college football with each individual school. So
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the calendar, there's no there's no governing body that restricts,
you know, say no, no, no, you got to have
this adherent timeline. So here you have Lane Kiffin. He
you know, hate the game, not the player. Lane Kiffin
is in a terrible position. I'll tell you what most
people I think, including the people I'm having a discussion with,
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you want the right in the free market economy that
if your competitor comes to you and says, I'll give
you a lot more money and a way better opportunity
for success, which means a lot more money, a lot
of us were criticizing Lane Kiffen. Would want to would
want to have that freedom to be able to do that.
So blame the contract situation, uh, and the timing and
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the calendar. Uh. Now Kiffen what he did with you know,
all of the uh the threats Google that. I understand,
we're running out of time. I don't I don't condone that,
but I think a lot of people are really critical
of Lane Kiffen in their own industry would be doing
something similar if they had an opportunity to make a
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lot more money and and uh have a more successful
career moving forward.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
All right, man, good stuff. Well, yeah, talk later in
a week. All right here, somebody, all right, go dog
here Mellen with us. We've got to break it's back
for maybe one more week. One week. The opponent audio recap.
That's right with Paul Allen. What did yesterday seahawk beat
down sound like? On Vikings Radio? You wanted it?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You got it? Next on ninety three to three KJRFM touch.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Down the Trodlin certainly the fuzzle undelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Do you want to talk about ripping your heart out?
This is the opponent audio rekind caught her. I sure do.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Wow, going to old school bringing the open back the
whole spiel. My god, how about this for a question,
Why don't you, Jackson, get off your ass every week
and bring the opponent recap back every single game?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
If it only was that easy? You know, I love this.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
One of my favorite parts of this job is the
a if.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You should sit at home every Sunday and record the
opposing radio broadcast for three hours, edit the audio, come
back to the show Monday, and give it to us
in a five minute form.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
What the hell? Why not?
Speaker 7 (28:44):
So?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I think the important part that you mentioned there is
that because of the way that the NFL changed this thing.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Up, usually we were able to for years.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yes, we get access to these things online now as
they have it set up.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I would have to sit.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
At home every game and record in real time the
opponent radio every single Sunday.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And you guys don't want to pay me to do that.
So yeah, well I'm not.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I didn't know you got paid anyway, So I thought
this was all part of like an internship or whatever.
But yeah, the opponent audio recap actually started in two
thousand and five. Remember the Jay Feely game against the Giants.
How many field goals get one man mess Now. We
played that on the air. We said, you know what,
this is great man. We're gonna do this every single week.
And like Jackson said, the way that we have access
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to the audio has changed. It just would be impossible
to do unless you know people that k Fan radio
in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
We got ahold of our buddies over there and they
got us what we needed here. Now one more edition.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Who knows when you'll hear it again of the Seahawk
opponent audio recap? What did yesterday's twenty six nothing ass
beatings sound like? On Kfan with Paul Allen and Pete
burst Inch in Minneapolis, It sounded just like this.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
It's four than one snap. Rosman rolls out to the
right in trouble. He's gonna throw the ball up and
it's pissed off. Awful decision by Max Brozner, and this
is going to be a defensive touchdown for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's Ernest Jones top board, but the first.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Touchdown of his career and Seattle has taken a nine
zero lead. Max Brozner, falling to the field, decided to
underhand it to absolutely nobody except Ernest Jones, and he's
gonna go the distance for the first touchdown of the game.
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Seattle has taken a nine zero lead. It'll be a
pick six up right around eighty five yards Minnesota zero
six on third down.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
This is a doozy third and fourteen from the Seattle
forty three.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
There they rush for Max on a deep drop, checks
down right plant Aaron Jones nice cut to the left
of the forty five.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Hit at the forty he.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Dropped the ball. Aaron Jones dropped the ball in front
of the.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Vikings bench and I mean it looks like Seattle recovered
the fumble.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence chased that thing down. What an unbelievable
wild play.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Another get nineteen zero Seattle a minute ten in counting
to go. On the third quarter, first and ten from
the Seattle forty five. Max Brosner play actions, great drop,
food protection, throws over the middle, intercepted, He overthrew Jalen
Naylor and the Seattle Seahawks have picked off Max Brosner
at the twenty one yard line. It's Kobe Bryant, fourth
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year from Cincinnati with this third pick this season, and
Seattle as a nineteen zero lead and against the ball
Aaron Jones questionable to return Savi or Scott to the
left of Brozner goes back to pass.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He's gonna throw over the middle.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
It bounces off a Viking and or Seahawk and is
intercepted by Ernest Jones before having the day of his life.
That's his second one went to the end zone. Three
picks for Max Brozner and seatles turned over to the
Minnesota Vikings with a nineteen zero lead. That can in
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six from the Vikings seventeen Darnold under center, goes back
to Charbonay and he runs rule of lee by Drake
Rodriguez misstackle to the ten five touchdown stack Charbonay, who
has left the Minnesota Vikings, punch trump.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's twenty five zero seat Rosmer second and six from
the Seattle twenty eight poor man rushed.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Rosmer throws to Addison and it's intercepted by Rieke Bullen
and Harry Comms fifteen twenty heads to the right, shakes
the tackle of Will friz at the thirty heads to
the center. Now he dropped it and it's up for
grabs up the thirty seven yard line. Goodness, so I
mean I think the Vikings they covered it, Yes, they did,
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so they're gonna have it first and ten from their
own thirty seven in serendipitous fashion, Wow, gets away from pressure,
throws left, it's caught by Jefferson behind the line of scrimmage.
He's thrown down so violently throw that flag.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I mean, what are you doing, Nick emn Worri.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
That's a rookie move by a rookie and he's gonna
be penalized for it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, that was kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
I mean, he had taken him back at least seven yards,
whistles were blown, and then he's picked him up and
frown up on the ground.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So that's gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
The Minnesota Vikings have been shut out in a football
game for the first time since two thousand and seven
twenty six zero Seattle.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So the Vikings are one and six in their last
seven games in Seattle. You know who the one quarterback
was to win a game from Minnesota and those seven starts.
How about that Sam Darnold, the guy they lost to yesterday.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
The Vikings may never win a game in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Unbelievable, dude, he is the best.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
He was right about that last call on even Worry,
I was saying the exact same thing to even Worry
that Pol was on that car.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah whatever, I don't want to break that guy's spirit
at all. I love the way he plays. Man, if
it comes with a personal foul every now and then,
then sign me up, dude. All right, we're gonna break giants,
Patriots right coming up next,
Little more at four.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I heard this guy this morning on the morning show,
and I found myself walking away impressed, but just needed
a little more, just to live, just to titch more.
And here he is to deliver more at four. Our
friend Huey Millan, how are you, man?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Boys?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Not much?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Lots to talk about Seahawks yesterday, Huskies and Ducks on
on Saturday. But why don't we to start with what
we saw yesterday at lumen Field. First shut out for
the Seahawks in ten years when they amazingly beat the Bears.
Also twenty six to nothing ten years ago. That is crazy.
Apparently Jackson Feltz's wife was at both those games. The
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last two Seahawk games that rise of Felts have been
to have been twenty six nothing victories by the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Figure that she's.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Doing on December eighteen, Oh man, she should be at
every Seahawk game they play the rest of the way.
But what was the view for you from forty thousand
feet on yesterday Seahawk win?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, I think that you know, the defense just cantinues
to you know, they're healthier, they play together, they're tied together.
You know, the pick six was, you know, a thing
of beauty in terms of the scheming and what have you. Obviously,
they played on a rookie, undrafted quarterback, and that's just
sometimes the benefits you get when you play a seventeen
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game schedule. But credit them. They they looked as dominant
as you could possibly look. And then you know, I
think there's a little bit of concern creeping in on
the offensive side of the ball. The Seahawks have played,
obviously twelve games, break that in half, the first six games,
the second six games. Sam Darnold's QBR, which is a
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little bit higher correlation to winning than even passer rating,
which has a pretty good correlation. In the last six games,
he's had four of his worst five. If that doesn't
confuse he is. So I think that there's been a
little bit of a tail off, and it's not just him.
I think that the offense around him. You know, it's
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a little bit concerning that they've kind of been going
through some mud offensively well.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Going into the game.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
His passer rating against the Blitz was seventy four and
against no Blitz was one hundred and seventeen, So there
was a massive gap. I imagine that gap is even
larger now after this one. Do you have faith that
that can change? And will we just see more of
the blitz until it does from teams maybe that aren't
as suited to blitz as Minnesota was.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, the Vikings are pretty unique. They were number one
in the NFL in the use of the three to four,
and just as a boilerplate statement about the three four,
if you're going against a team, even if they don't blitz,
they're going to rush their three and then of the
four linebackers, they can rush either of the edges or
even an inside backer, and that can create a four
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man rush. It feels a little bit like a blitz
because a linebacker's coming, but it's only a four man rush.
So even is a generic statement, it's a little bit
more difficult to handle a three to four. I think
that's a general rule most would agree. And then and
then when you consider what the Vikings do with it,
they're they're again number one in the NFL in the
use of three four, but they are number one in
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terms of the percentage of their plays that produce a pressure.
And so they they have a certain style that they play.
Their use of of Nickel is dead last thirty seconds.
So they keep these big linebackers out there. They and
they walk up tough. Some people call it a mug,
but tough as a term. Also, where you got seven
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eight guys on the line of scrimmage, you don't know
who's coming or who's pop popping back into coverage. They
do a real good job with that. They've created mayhem
for them. But you know what, Penn State did that
against Washington and obviously in twenty twenty four, and you'd say, whoa,
you just provided a blueplant print. Well, if you're if
that's not something philosophically that you do, you know, I
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think most teams aren't gonna upset what they do. But
there may be a team along the way that is
somewhat similar to the way Minnesota does, not all the way,
but somewhat similar. And then they'll say, Okay, we got
some traction we can make. Let's let's do what the
Vikings did. But not every team is going to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, what did they do to take away Jackson Smith,
then Jigba finally yesterday? And is that repeatable by other teams?
Does that concern you?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, they played mostly most of all of the plays
were zone pressures, and so they in zone, they knew
where number eleven was going, and they there were some
opportunities elsewhere. There were times where if I was quarterback
coaching Darnold, I'd say, okay, the rotation actually rotated the
cup due to the formation in the hash mark. Here,
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you've got an opportunity of Jackson Smith on a slant.
The ball should have gone to JSN. There was a
what's called a wrap route, some people call it a
hammer where you have a shallow guy to influence the
hook defender. That's like the second basement or shortstop in
an infield. Get the second baseman to bite up on
the shallow and then throw it in behind it right
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over second base to carry out the analogy. There was
a great opportunity. I think where Darnold has been his
best is when he uses his eyes, like, hey, let
me pull you down here, and then I know that
I'm coming right back into that intermediate dig for a
nice twelve fourteen yard completion aar yards and maybe more
with yak he didn't do that. I think he was
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feeling the pressure to get the ball out. So some
of the normal the normal pocket presence and eye manipulation,
things that we've seen from him earlier in the year.
You just didn't see a lot of that. I think
my conjecture, I'm not in his head, but my conjecture
as he felt like the time clock was sped up
and he's just got to get the ball out.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Here, we talked after the LA game about you know, Sam,
just just take the sack, right, don't throw the interception,
just take the sack. Well, now he's taking the sacks,
but he's also putting the ball in the ground.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
When he's taking his sacks a couple of times and
they lost on them.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Me, do we give him?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And he credited all for just taking the sacks yesterday
instead of just trying to chuck one up. But how
do you think he handled that pressure as far as
either throwing it versus eating it?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, I draw a clear distinction on fumbles by the
quarterback in the pocket. When you're going to throw the
ball and your hands separate and you're in the mid throw.
If your arm gets hit there, it's almost assuredly coming out.
Your best chances is to either be aware that it's
coming or block better, like for example, the Bosa play
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that started the season, you know, the wreck the game.
You know, Darnold's already in the action of throwing. He's
looking off to his left, he's throwing to the flat,
everything collapses to his right. It's out outside of his vision.
But yesterday and he and he's had other fumbles like
that where he's in the act of throwing. Yesterday, in
both of those situations, he's in the pocket, he has
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two hands on the ball. And now now the one
with with Dallas Turner and he got smoked out. That's
terrible communication. Yeah, you know up, you know with Nick
caliup a young tight end and and so as Donald's
looking to his left. If if he doesn't, if his
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peripheral vision doesn't see or feel that, then then he's
he's gonna be susceptible to a a fumble. Uh. The
other one, I'd be probably more critical of him. Hey,
keep two on hands on a beef. Let's be firm
with that thing actor throwing. I get it, But but
those type of fumbles, Yeah, it's just starting to be
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a concern.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I just thought it was a bad day for protection.
I mean, I don't know Charbonne had a bad day
for protection. You mentioned collar up there not even having
a clue, uh what he's doing. Charles Cross got beat
on on one sack I think in the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So I mean, this is not just all on Donald.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Anybody's sitting back there under that kind of press sure
is eventually gonna start turning the ball over. So what
does Kubiak have to do to fix that up front?
Never mind the quarterback? How about talking about your line?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, well Kubiak was just one step behind Brian Flores
and you know they they he would try and max
it up, keep two tight ends in block the edges.
He tried to five out protection. Uh they they were
just release Kenneth Walker on a swing route. But then
the end, uh, you know he's he's gonna deny. You know,
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he's gonna kind of do a semi what's called peel
where he's gonna smack any five out protection meaning that
the back is immediately and in the protection the overloads,
where he would he would just you know, you know,
line up guys in the A gap and I'll tell
you what, it's tough playing quarterback when they're we're in
they're blitzing guys in the a gap that's between the
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center and the guard, and you're running back as to
come from depth to to block him. That is very unnerving.
And you know, Jim only he's gonna end up in
your lap like it did often.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know, the case for Charbonnay drives me crazy that
he refuses to block with his left shoulder. And so
so if he if he's on the left side, he
and and he's gonna step up on the a gap,
he uses his right shoulder. And so so.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He's heard, is he heard?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't know, you know, sometimes it's just a guy's
dominant hand. I assume I haven't seen him throw a
football or or or skip rocks at a river, So
I don't know if he's right hand at all. Assume
he is. And some guys just feel stronger with the
right shoulder. But I, I literally I can't find a
rep with him blocking with his left shoulder. And so
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sometimes that's okay if you're coming from the right and
you want to keep your head closer to the center line. Uh.
And and then if you're gonna lose the block, lose
the block to the outside to to your right shoulder,
that's fine. But if you're on the left side and
you use your right shoulder. Now you're more likely to
get beat on the right shoulder, but that's the straight
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path to the quarterback. So I think that there's some
fundament you know, the very first UH pass, well, the
first pass of the game was the smoke a little
screen out there to UH to Canine. And by the way,
he could have thrown the JSN on a slant there,
but I'm not going to complain. What was it fourteen
yards first play of the game, Dick, I don't know.
Do you have the play by play with you know,
twelve yards?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, keep going.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But you know, it's an excellent point, David. But but
then the second play of the game was they rushed
six and H and Canine. You know they're they're turning
the protection. Canine is on a on a safety on
the blitz. He ends up losing it. That that alone
forces Donald aft to to UH to evade the pocket
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and throw out of bounds. And by the way, so
for Donald here he has UH. He has twelve incompletions
on the day, he had four bat passes, three throwaways,
and a drop. So on him was only four incompletions.
But you know there there, there really wasn't a lot
to enjoy from the passing game. And you're right, David,
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it was really poor up front and and and if
I said, okay, describe in five seconds what the Vikings
did that they had that the Seahawks have to be
ready for. They had multiple players on the line, screamers.
It almost looked like a punt block. And then they're
playing not man from that blitz look, but zone behind it,
a whole array of zone coverages. I'm not going to
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get into, but they have the illusion of six, seven,
eight guys that are gonna rush and I just took
well more than five seconds, but then two or three
guys drop out into zone coverage. You don't know which
guys are going to pop out, and that communication was
very poor and the execution, so that that's gonna be
a long mental work. A lot of walkthroughs this week,
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an extra walkthrough duty on how to handle that stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Mentally, I'm seeing nick em and worry all over the
field again. Now, he did have the stupid unsportsm like
conduct penalty, but other than that, he was making plays everywhere.
Have you seen enough film on Nick to know what
he is best at right now, Like, if you could
just isolate one thing that this guy is best at,
what do you think it is?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Barely got beat on the Hockinson seam route for twenty
seven yards and so he's outside leverage. He'll be better
in that. I think what he's best at.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He had a real.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Instinctive play on the eighty five yard pick six that
Ernest Jones had. You know, there's zone coverage. You're trying
to get the Jones the halfback in the flat, but
there's also Jordan Addison is going to be running a
corner out. I think that Emon Worry had the sense, hey,
wolln you got the flat, all sink back into the
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corner route to help Kobe Bryant. I see some instinctive
plays by him. But I think what he's best at
is he he can make up for any misread, Like
if he's a tick late right now because he's a
rookie on something. When he decides to go from point
A to point B, he gets there really fast. He
covers ground, and he's long, he tackles well, he's uh uh,
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you know. His length really impacts how he can cover.
So I just think I just love watching him play
because to see such a uh, fluid athlete at that
size who has that kind of short range acceleration very rare.
He's a fun guy to watch.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What happened on that pick six by brosmer.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, I'll say from the Vikings perspective, they they're trying
to they're trying to do roll out the quarterback right
handed quarterback, uh, to the right side, and and they're
and they're gonna they're gonna fake, but they're gonna fake
it to the fullback who's in a strong eye what
I call king formation, and and the fullback is gonna
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go to the weak side away from the quarterback's role.
That was isn't much of a of a I don't
know of a cheese, you know for the mouse. And
so when the halfback from his half backed position just
sprints out to the flat, you better hope that's man
coverage and that they don't know how to pass things
off because the linebacker would have it in man coverage
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and you know, Seattle zoned it off and uh. And
then you had de Marcus Lawrence. He's in what's called
the six eye technique. Ins I'd say that the tight end,
that the tight end goes down down blocks and and
you're trying to influence de Marcus Lawrence. But he doesn't
go down with the tight end. He goes straight up
the field because he recognizes that not the boot naked
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UH sprint out, but rather the role sprint out. So
it's the type of action in the backfield that split
action UH poorly conceived, at least certainly for the defense
Seattle was in. And and it was reminiscent. And I
went back and I said, I remember that play well
against the Giants lst year Dick. Remember our post game
win ye when on the fourth and one in the
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fourth quarter, back on Seattle's own thirty fives, the Seahawks
went for Geno Smith, ran the exact same play from
the exact same formation, King Wright the exact play, and
Brian Burns. Brian Burns, their defensive end, got straight up
the field just like the Marcus launched it and sacked
Geno Smith for about I was a loss of eight
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on fourth and one in the fourth quarter, down seven,
So that was maybe the play of the game. And
you know, it looked very similar And credit Marcus Lawrence
and and Ernstone just happened to be at the right
place at the right time.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Hey, let's say get a quick break here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I want to come back and talk about what you
saw from the Dogs and Ducks on Saturday. And plus,
I think it might be appropriate to get a quick
and I mean quick take from you on the Lane
Kiffin thing with him taking off leaving all miss before
the playoffs starts to go coach it las year. We'll
have a little more with Hugh Millan and then the
opponent audio recap.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We haven't done that in a long time. Baby.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It took Paul Allen losing his mind on k Fan
Radio yesterday to have us bring it back. You'll hear
that at four forty five today on ninety three three
KJRFM from the.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to
SOFTI and Dick on your home for.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
The Huskies, Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety
three point three kjr FL.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
All right back here on a Monday afternoon and Giants
Patriots coming up pre game five kickoff five fifteen. We'll
do a little opponent audio recap with k Fan and
Paul Allen. Yeah, Baby, coming up four forty five. Get
to hear what yesterday's dominant Seahawk win sounded like on
Minnesota radio with the best PA in about twenty minutes
fifteen minutes from now. But Hugh Millan rejoins us, Hugh,
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let's go back to Saturday Husky Stadium, Oregon Ducks get
to win over you, dub I thought it was a
bad day for Jet Fish, bad day for Demin william
What was your big takeaway from Saturday afternoon?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, you've got Demond Williams in the passing game just
not getting the job done. And you know it's kind
of a continuation. If you just take power forour conference play,
there are fifty six quarterbacks in the Power four that
have fifty or more attempts and playing against top twenty
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five defenses. The Huskies did that for four games. Demon
Williams on the EPA per dropback, which has the highest
correlation winning. Of thirty quarterback stats that I've seen, Demond
is fifty first out of fifty six, and of the
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top twenty four qualifiers, he's twenty fourth out of twenty four.
So you know, so the Huskies they either played they
played four top twenty five teams. This is out of
sixty seven Power four Conferences teams and or the other
five were in the bottom twenty Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, Wreckerds, UCLA,
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we're all in the bottom twenty. So so I think
he built up his numbers. And and you know, one
of the big takeaways for me is when you watch
his drop back, he wants to get depth. Will he
will routinely get to ten to eleven yards and bounce.
He's you know, he has a false start with his
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left foot. A lot of quarterbacks do it, no big deal.
But like a three step drop is actually a four
step drop, a five step drop is actually six because
he state takes that left foot and he gets a
lot of depth because he's a springy athlete. But he
sits there and he's straddling a position about ten yards.
And what that does is it just the balls in
the air longer. I mean, just as a thought experiment,
(18:49):
imagine if all the defenders out there in pass coverage,
if you could put a tennis racket in each of
their hands. Now that sounds absurd, but I want you
to absorb how how long they would be and how
they could bat down passes well when you're throwing the
ball from a yard and a half further back, you're
ten yards as opposed. I went and I just picked
(19:10):
one guy, Fernanda Mendoza, and I looked at a bunch
of his tape today looking at what he will get
nine yards and then I'll immediately pop and they'll be
straddling in about eight seven and a half yards. So
when he throws the balls in the air less, the
defenders have less time to react with the ball. You get
more yards after the catch, and so for demand to
(19:34):
want to be back there, I presume it's because he
can't see. And you take in conference between the hashes,
this is all Conference quarterbacks throwing between the hashes. This
is all defenses, the good ones and the bad ones.
Air yards five to twenty yards. Those are the intermediate
over the middle. EPA per drop back demand is fifty
six out of seventieth. So he's not efficient thrown over
(19:56):
the middle. That's what you would expect from a shorter
quarterback right this depth where he's residing. And then furthermore,
the offensive tackles, they want to send those edge rushers
and let them crawl around and make it a tight
hoop you want to be at about seven eight yards
to make it easy on the tackles. When you are
consistently at ten yards those angles, for those edge rushers,
(20:20):
it's a lot easier to get to the spot to
the quarterback. So I think that's something that absolutely has
to be addressed. He's got to be closer to the
line of scrimmage. I don't know if he wants to
be because of his height.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
He it just seemed like we kept beating our head
against the wall on first down with the pass. I mean,
Deman was two for eight on first down with two
interceptions and two sacks. Meanwhile, they averaged seven point five
seven yards per carry on fourteen rushes on first down.
Why wasn't it just shut down at some point and
they just say, you know what, week the one dimension
(20:56):
is working, Why don't we just be one dimensional here?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I don't have a great answer. I just think you've
got a guy that you know is drawn to the
passing game in the play caller and Jed Fish, and
that would be the best answer I'd give you. I
think he just, you know, he wants to win with
the you know, the pizazz of the passing game. But
I thought Adam Muhammad. We all saw it. There was
(21:23):
a lot of explosiveness there. He was running very physical
and running very quick. So yeah, I agree with you there.
I would love to hear him answer that question.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, the interception in the first quarter, they had two
great runs by Mohammad to the twenty one yard line
after the personal foul gave the Huskies the ball at
the Oregon what I think forty four yard line, and
then Deman Williams just throws an ill advised pass into
double coverage. Way underthrown obviously, What did you see on
that pick and why was that ball thrown?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, well it's first and ten. You're trying to take
a shot. Same thing we talked about in the Way
Wisconsin game on the double move where he forced it
up the sideline. But I don't like the structure of
the play. Let me, I think it's poor play design.
The ball's on the left. Hash you got Boston is
what's called the number three receiver. You're just counting from
the outside in. They're trying to do a fake smoke
(22:19):
screen and then Boston he's gonna stalk on the flat
defender and then run a wheel. Boston when the ball
was snapped was four yards inside of the right hash.
That means he was twenty four yards from the sideline.
He then had to get so much with to be
(22:41):
able to He's stalking like he's blocking on a smoke
screen and you're throwing that to Rayven's fine bright number two.
So Vine's bright. He steps back and you're faking like
you're throwing a wide receiver screen. But you had Boston
so close to the middle of the field. He had
so much with that that the defenders could react based
(23:03):
on how much with Boston had to gain in addition
to try and get up the field. So you look
at a safety. The safety was a yard outside the hash.
That means he had five yards of a lateral head
start to beat him. So the safety sees this, and
but he's already in a position to make a play
on the ball. In addition to they had Roebuck was
(23:24):
the number one receiver. He didn't do a stutter block
to try and sell it. He ran a straight glance,
five step post route to the inside, and so the
safety to that side, he doesn't really feel the fake smoke.
He sees Boston, who's way inside might as well been
you know, toe to toe with as a party the
(23:45):
right tackle. I'm exaggerating, but that's what he sees, is
like he has so much with the game, so the
safety was able to make a play on it. I
just think trying to throw a wheel route to number
three after a stutter stock faking in number two with
that spacing, I thought it was very poor and absolutely contributed.
(24:06):
Why else would a big old linebacker be the run
with Boston because he because of all the width that
Boston had to gain. I don't like the play design whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
H there was maybe two three minutes of real time
there that we actually believed in the stadium that we
could and maybe even.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Would win the football game.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I mean, we're down by less than a touchdown, and
you get a stop on first, you get a stop
on second, and then third and medium, third and long,
you give up the long touchdown pass. What in the
world happened there? It seemed like I think it was
Dylan Robinson looked like he was about fifteen yards away
from the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, yeah, you know, he's just running a deep in
what a lightning bolt? He runs a deep in Seattle's
in Seattle. The Huskies are in a three D four
under and I think there's a little bit of an
irony here. We spent last segment talking about how the
Vikings did all the you they had all those defenders
on the line of scrimmage. The Huskies had six defenders
(25:03):
as well, and they drop off and the the hook
zone defender I referenced the second baseman, Zyriel Alexander. He
is the hooked zone defender. So but he lined up
on the line of scrimmage. So at the snap of
the ball, what the Huskies were trying to accomplish with
the disguise, they lost in terms of the positioning of
(25:26):
where those hook zone defenders could be. So so Alexander
couldn't get underneath that deep end route, and and so
you get the completion there, and then you had terrible
angles by Dylan Robinson and a fe's in price sock,
you know, and and that guy that that's one of
the most impressive lightning bolts I've seen by a receiver
(25:46):
to just you know, to put on the turbo jets.
But but yeah, that that that really hurt because you know,
third and nine, obviously it's the play of the game,
no doubt. I just would have loved to have had
one offensive possession, down five in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
We got a minute left, all right, that's sixty seconds, pal,
Lane Kiffin boulting Ole miss in the middle of a
playoff run for LSU.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What'd you make of that?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I think it's a really bad look, more so
for college football as an enterprise, that they have this
calendar the way they do, and and and just remember
now the contracts that NFL coaches sign, that is with
the league. There is a one big governing body, So
all of that is with the league. The coaches who
sign contracts in college football with each individual school. So
(26:33):
the calendar, there's no there's no governing body that restricts,
you know, say no, no, no, you got to have
this adherent timeline. So here you have Lane Kiffin. He
you know, hate the game, not the player. Lane Kiffin
is in a terrible position. I'll tell you what most
people I think, including the people I'm having a discussion with,
(26:54):
you want the right in the free market economy that
if your competitor comes to you and says, I'll give
you a lot more money and a way better opportunity
for success, which means a lot more money, a lot
of us were criticizing Lane Kiffen. Would want to would
want to have that freedom to be able to do that.
So blame the contract situation, uh, and the timing and
(27:16):
the calendar. Uh. Now Kiffen what he did with you know,
all of the uh the threats Google that. I understand,
we're running out of time. I don't I don't condone that,
but I think a lot of people are really critical
of Lane Kiffen in their own industry would be doing
something similar if they had an opportunity to make a
(27:38):
lot more money and and uh have a more successful
career moving forward.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
All right, man, good stuff. Well, yeah, talk later in
a week. All right here, somebody, all right, go dog
here Mellen with us. We've got to break it's back
for maybe one more week. One week. The opponent audio recap.
That's right with Paul Allen. What did yesterday seahawk beat
down sound like? On Vikings Radio? You wanted it?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You got it? Next on ninety three to three KJRFM touch.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Down the Trodlin certainly the fuzzle undelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Do you want to talk about ripping your heart out?
This is the opponent audio rekind caught her. I sure do.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Wow, going to old school bringing the open back the
whole spiel. My god, how about this for a question,
Why don't you, Jackson, get off your ass every week
and bring the opponent recap back every single game?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
If it only was that easy? You know, I love this.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
One of my favorite parts of this job is the
a if.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You should sit at home every Sunday and record the
opposing radio broadcast for three hours, edit the audio, come
back to the show Monday, and give it to us
in a five minute form.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
What the hell? Why not?
Speaker 7 (28:44):
So?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I think the important part that you mentioned there is
that because of the way that the NFL changed this thing.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Up, usually we were able to for years.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yes, we get access to these things online now as
they have it set up.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I would have to sit.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
At home every game and record in real time the
opponent radio every single Sunday.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And you guys don't want to pay me to do that.
So yeah, well I'm not.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I didn't know you got paid anyway, So I thought
this was all part of like an internship or whatever.
But yeah, the opponent audio recap actually started in two
thousand and five. Remember the Jay Feely game against the Giants.
How many field goals get one man mess Now. We
played that on the air. We said, you know what,
this is great man. We're gonna do this every single week.
And like Jackson said, the way that we have access
(29:28):
to the audio has changed. It just would be impossible
to do unless you know people that k Fan radio
in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
We got ahold of our buddies over there and they
got us what we needed here. Now one more edition.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Who knows when you'll hear it again of the Seahawk
opponent audio recap? What did yesterday's twenty six nothing ass
beatings sound like? On Kfan with Paul Allen and Pete
burst Inch in Minneapolis, It sounded just like this.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
It's four than one snap. Rosman rolls out to the
right in trouble. He's gonna throw the ball up and
it's pissed off. Awful decision by Max Brozner, and this
is going to be a defensive touchdown for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's Ernest Jones top board, but the first.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Touchdown of his career and Seattle has taken a nine
zero lead. Max Brozner, falling to the field, decided to
underhand it to absolutely nobody except Ernest Jones, and he's
gonna go the distance for the first touchdown of the game.
(30:36):
Seattle has taken a nine zero lead. It'll be a
pick six up right around eighty five yards Minnesota zero
six on third down.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
This is a doozy third and fourteen from the Seattle
forty three.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
There they rush for Max on a deep drop, checks
down right plant Aaron Jones nice cut to the left
of the forty five.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Hit at the forty he.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Dropped the ball. Aaron Jones dropped the ball in front
of the.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Vikings bench and I mean it looks like Seattle recovered
the fumble.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence chased that thing down. What an unbelievable
wild play.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Another get nineteen zero Seattle a minute ten in counting
to go. On the third quarter, first and ten from
the Seattle forty five. Max Brosner play actions, great drop,
food protection, throws over the middle, intercepted, He overthrew Jalen
Naylor and the Seattle Seahawks have picked off Max Brosner
at the twenty one yard line. It's Kobe Bryant, fourth
(31:34):
year from Cincinnati with this third pick this season, and
Seattle as a nineteen zero lead and against the ball
Aaron Jones questionable to return Savi or Scott to the
left of Brozner goes back to pass.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He's gonna throw over the middle.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
It bounces off a Viking and or Seahawk and is
intercepted by Ernest Jones before having the day of his life.
That's his second one went to the end zone. Three
picks for Max Brozner and seatles turned over to the
Minnesota Vikings with a nineteen zero lead. That can in
(32:09):
six from the Vikings seventeen Darnold under center, goes back
to Charbonay and he runs rule of lee by Drake
Rodriguez misstackle to the ten five touchdown stack Charbonay, who
has left the Minnesota Vikings, punch trump.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's twenty five zero seat Rosmer second and six from
the Seattle twenty eight poor man rushed.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Rosmer throws to Addison and it's intercepted by Rieke Bullen
and Harry Comms fifteen twenty heads to the right, shakes
the tackle of Will friz at the thirty heads to
the center. Now he dropped it and it's up for
grabs up the thirty seven yard line. Goodness, so I
mean I think the Vikings they covered it, Yes, they did,
(32:51):
so they're gonna have it first and ten from their
own thirty seven in serendipitous fashion, Wow, gets away from pressure,
throws left, it's caught by Jefferson behind the line of scrimmage.
He's thrown down so violently throw that flag.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I mean, what are you doing, Nick emn Worri.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
That's a rookie move by a rookie and he's gonna
be penalized for it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, that was kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
I mean, he had taken him back at least seven yards,
whistles were blown, and then he's picked him up and
frown up on the ground.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So that's gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
The Minnesota Vikings have been shut out in a football
game for the first time since two thousand and seven
twenty six zero Seattle.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So the Vikings are one and six in their last
seven games in Seattle. You know who the one quarterback
was to win a game from Minnesota and those seven starts.
How about that Sam Darnold, the guy they lost to yesterday.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
The Vikings may never win a game in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Unbelievable, dude, he is the best.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
He was right about that last call on even Worry,
I was saying the exact same thing to even Worry
that Pol was on that car.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah whatever, I don't want to break that guy's spirit
at all. I love the way he plays. Man, if
it comes with a personal foul every now and then,
then sign me up, dude. All right, we're gonna break giants,
Patriots right coming up next,
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