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December 2, 2024 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss the mixed feelings about the Seahawks win over the Jets, then get to their Fact or Fiction pick before Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
We got a little More at four with Hugh or
Hugh with us from More at four?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
How do we uh? How do we name this segment?
I just think it's uh, it's gotta have a name. First.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
A little More at four with Hugh coming up today
because he's only been on fifteen times today.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
But you know what, some people have to work, guys.
Some people have jobs.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
They can't tune into here Hugh millin seventeen times during
the day, and I feel like there are certain things
that the previous host did not get to that damn it.
I want to talk about it at four o'clock today,
So a little more at four with Hugh, we'll have
fun with audio at three forty five, we'll have football
at five fifteen with the Browns and the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
And I don't know. I mean, where do we start, right?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean, the Huskies get killed by Oregon on Saturday
and the Seahawks almost kill their entire fan bise by
giving us a stroke with the way they played with
the with the Jet game yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
So where do we start?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Probably Seahawks because it's the Monday after the game, you think, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well I got to be because Saturday was exactly as expected.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
No, Well, first of all, how many times have you
heard me say, since like the middle of March that
Oregon's gonna murder us in November? And that's exactly what
happened at the in the game at Hudson Stadium on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
So we had to that coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
We spent some time talking about that Saturday night, but
we'll get to it in a minute. I don't even
know where to start with the Seahawks game yesterday, because
again it feels like the perfect sports talk radio game
where they win and they're seven and five and They're
opening up a little bit of a cushion in the
NFC West. They beat the Cardinals this coming Sunday in Arizona,

(02:06):
and they'll have a whole butt load of cushion in
the NFC West.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
So, man, you can you can smell this? Boys? You
can smell, can't you a little bit?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Can you kind of start to just vaguely smell something
coming from somewhere downwind? And it's a good smell. It's
the NFC West Division championship. You can smell it right there.
This Sunday's game would be huge if you can get
that one towards an NFC West title. But I don't
even know where to start. I mean, do we start
with the good? Do we start with the bad? Do

(02:34):
we start with the ugly? I don't know if I've
ever seen Dick a Special Teams game like that in
my life. And I gotta be honest with you, I
was freaking livid with Jay Harbaugh in Special Teams during
that first half yesterday, and everybody, I think felt the
same way, including you. Right, So, of course you think
of the Special Teams units, and Special Teams units in

(02:56):
a lot of ways are like umpires and referee, you'd
never want to hear about him ever. Just do your
job and shut the hell up. How many times have
I said on this radio station, I almost believe that
kickers and punters no disrespect to John Ryan or Jason
Myers or Michael Dixon or Efford Herrera or Norm Johnson

(03:18):
or Rick boot and tooton. But they're not even real
football players, Dick. They're soccer players wearing football helmets. And
so when you allow special teams, and I realize that
the punter and the kicker had nothing to do, you know,
really with what happened yesterday, But Michael Dixon's injury was
a factor, which we can talk about later on.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
But special teams, man, you are there to just do
your job and shut up. That's it.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Nobody wants to hear about you, Nobody wants to hear
from you. Go out there and do your job and
keep your trap shut. So the only time we're typically
talking about special teams, honestly, is when somebody makes a mistake. Really,
and that back to back to back to back to back,
and I'm five in a row. Kickoff return team and

(04:03):
kickoff coverage team by the Seahawks yesterday was pathetic, And
I gotta be honest with you. I I woke up
this morning, dick half expecting Jay Harbaugh to get fired
by Mike McDonald. I mean, Mike McDonald just fired Leaviscus Chanut.
He already made it crystal clear that if you're not
getting the job done as a player, Dotson Baker, you're

(04:24):
gonna lose your job. So why should Jay Harpop be
any different?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, I mean, I'm I am not surprised he didn't
get fired because this was a one off in that
magnitude as far has not been Yes, it has not
been good all year. We've had it. That was a
different animal before, but that was that was a different animal.
I just think that if you don't have somebody special
on your special teams unit, like a Justin Tucker in

(04:51):
his prime, a Dion Sanders, a Quarterell Patterson, a Devin
Hestern is probably correct, then just play even Steven will
place eighth play. I mean, just don't catch it, do
anything that could jeopardize the game in that third of
the field. Right, Special teams offense, defense don't do anything

(05:11):
that could jeopardize the game. And they nearly single handedly
with the fumbled kickoff, then the muff kickoff that was
recovered by themselves, the touchdown return, then the muffed and
fumbled kickoff. There was one muffed and fumbled at the
same time, the blocked extra point, the kickoff return allowed
the forty five yard line, all in the first half,
all in thirty minutes of football.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
You had those go on. Now, did you imagine the
blocked extra point after the pick six? By the way, yes,
yes I did. That was one of the six.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
So I would say this, Jay Harbaugh's n notice like
another game that is even remotely close to that.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
He's got to be gone. He's got to be gone. Well,
here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Here's the thing, and you're exactly right when you say
that special teams almost single handedly cost the Seahawks that win,
because the Jets are facing first and ten from the
Seahawk twelve yard line. Okay, this is the drive where
Big Cat had to pick six. They're up twenty one
to seven with eight thirty three to go in the
second quarter. If they score a touchdown and they go

(06:14):
up twenty eight to seven on that drive, it may
have been curtains for them.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I mean, dude, that Leonard Williams picks six.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
If the Seahawks are playing in the Divisional Championship or
the Divisional Round or the NFC Championship Game, or god forbid,
they pull off a miracle and make the Super Bowl,
We're gonna look back at that Leonard Williams pick six
against the Jets and think that was the play of
the year. There's a play of the season. I mean,
save their ass, absolutely save their ass. So that's number one.

(06:44):
Number two, I go back to what you just said about, Hey,
catch the damn ball. Fair catch it. Don't do anything dumb.
The risk is not worth the reward. Blah blah blah,
leaviskus Chandell couldn't even do that. No, he couldn't even
catch the ball. And that's why he's been fired today
by the Seahawks. So I think, if you're a fan,

(07:04):
I love this. And we talked about this a few
weeks ago when they got rid of Baker and got
rid of Dodson. Do we criticize John Schneider for cigning
two guys that couldn't even make it to Thanksgiving? Or
do we give him credit for getting rid of a
problem and trying to correct it the way Ernest Jones
playing and the way Tyree's Knight's playing right now, I
think it's the latter. Right, You give him credit for
getting rid of those guys at upgrading. They have proven.

(07:27):
Mike McDonald's proven along with John Schneider. And I have
no idea how much leeway Schneider Dick is giving McDonald.
He may kind of let him make these calls. I
have no idea, but he is proven that if you
aren't the answer, you're done, You're gone. And I think
that extends to players. I think it extends to coaches
as well. Jay harbaughd special teams if things don't turn

(07:49):
around for the offense and they feel like at some
point over the offseason they want to make a move,
Ryan Grubb, everybody, right, the entire offensive coaching staff should
be unnoticed.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing about the offense yesterday.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think that ninety nine percent of the criticism about
the offense, and this is the nature of sports talk radio.
We can actually gravitate kind of towards the negative, right, Like,
we're not sitting here talking about how phenomenal the defense was,
when let's face it, they were phenomenal because They gave
up that touchdown, that eleven play, eighty yard drive in
the first quarter after Leonard Williams had the face mask

(08:23):
call at the forty two that probably ends up with
the Jets punning. Outside of that touchdown drive, the defense
gave up one score and that came after the d
Williams fumble that gave the Jets the ball to twenty seven.
So the defense was magnificent. Let's just keep that there
and we'll chat about that in a second. I think,
and I want to know if you guys agree with this, Jackson,
you two ninety nine percent of the criticism of the

(08:45):
offense right now is because of the eight plays from
the four yard line in do we agree with that?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, A high percentage, a very high percentage show that
was just an unbelievable, inept effort by all involved. Play
caller offensive line Gino Smith missing a guy wide open
from a fan play, yes, right right, I mean just
running into walls, no quarterback sneaks, sneak called when you

(09:13):
get the ball at like the nine inch line. I
mean just it was an absolute debacle. So I would say, yes,
that's what's gonna stick on our minds of the worst
offensive stretch of the game.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, no, for sure. And I went back and I
watched that thing all over again this morning. Is I'm
sure you guys have. And I'm just thinking about, guys,
the conversations Jackson that we've had before about what we'd
like to see from an offense inside the one yard line,
inside the three yard line. And I got a couple
of general rules of thumb. Number one, I hate being
a shotgun drives me freaking nuts. Okay, get a lead

(09:48):
blocker in there, blah blah blah all that. Well, guess
what for seven of the eight plays, guys that they
ran inside the four yard line.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Gino Smith was under center. He didn't get in a
shotgun until fourth down.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, you're bringing in uh Barner, you're bringing in Sundale,
you're in the I formation. You've got lead blockers for
Kenny Walker. And I'm watching Abe Lucas and Lamela get
blown off the ball. I'm watching Lincoln Tomlinson get blown
off the ball. I'm watching Ryan Grubb call a play
for Noah Fan that results in him beating this man
by two yards and they can't get the ball home.

(10:21):
I mean, look, I'm not gonna let Ryan Grub off
the hook at all, I thought. I totally agree with
what Hugh said. I think Ryan Grubb yesterday was a
bad day for him, no question about it. And you
gotta work with what you have. I agree with what
you just said there, Dick one thousand percent not having
a quarterback sneak at all. And when they show the
overhead shot by the way over the nose tackle and
there seems to be room for Gino Smith to have

(10:43):
two guys blocking two other guys sneaking. Let's get our
seven points and let's be done. But he's calling plays
that if they result in touchdowns, I think we're on
the ear today, going oh man, great play. No Fan
was wide open. Gino Smith put that ball up in
the air where only Noah could get it touchdown.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Oh great.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
They had two lead blockers for Charbonney, two lead blockers
for Kenny Walker. I think on two or three different occasions,
that's exactly how.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
You do it.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
You dumb it down, you hand the ball off to
a back, you don't goof around or jerk around, and
you score a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
But none of them worked in the game yesterday.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And then the rub is that they have this incredible
drive late in the game where they just look phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
I mean, they're getting some luck from the Jets, I
gets getting a lot of gifts.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
But they made the plays when they had to make.
Then there was also a play earlier in the game.
I think you tweeted about it when they were down
fourteen to nothing. You're like, well, they're gonna abandon the run. Now,
guess what they did not do. They did not abandon
the run. They ran the ball six times on ten
plays now thirteen zip and they scored a touchdown. So
I just I don't know, at what point do we

(11:47):
come back and just say, guys, put this on the players. Yes,
the coordinators not having a great year. Yes, the coordinator
had a rough day yesterday. But I am so sick
and tired of watching subpar offensive line play Jackson, not
just with the Seahawks, but the Huskies as well. Yeah,
I am craving protection, I am craving running lanes. I'm

(12:10):
craving watching offensive lineman blow defensive lineman off the ball,
and neither one of my teams.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Is doing the interior of the offensive line. For the Seahawks,
we knew going into this season it was going to
be a weakness. I don't think any of us thought
it was going to be this much of a weakness.
It's just becoming so.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Hard to watch.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
I would also say, how is it that the Philadelphia
Eagles can go under center and always get two yards
no matter what, and don't tell me it's Jason Kelsey.
They've replaced Jason Kelsey still get two yards on the
Toush Push every single damn time.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Can we please figure out how the hell to do that?
I don't know why they don't Why? Why don't know
why sneak g you know every freaking time.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
The NFL allows it, right, I mean there's people like
you that want the Toush Push band and look until
they ban it wanting to do it. You know, Greg
Bell brought this Updick on Twitter. The Remember when Sark
was using Bier Murphy as a fullback of Texas last year?
Oh yeah, they've asked Mike McDonald about that and he
laughs it off like it's a non starter every single time.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Why why is that?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Why not get creative if if your offensive line is crap,
and let's face it, it's generally crap. Okay, Husky's offensive
line not very good either, and we can talk about
them in just a minute. But I feel like if
you are a play caller, and if you are the
head coach of the Seahawks right now, you need to
start looking at some real unique options to make up.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
For a lack of talent upfront.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, there's there's been games where I've been more
upset at Ryan Grubb than that one yesterday. I didn't
I didn't necessarily think that was a you know, a
poorly called game by Ryan Grubb. Other than the quarterback sneak,
I would have absolutely done.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Mike love that drive down fourteen to nothing. Man, I
love that drive.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. And my my main criticism with with Ryan Grubb
this year is if your offensive line is so bad,
then you have to do something that takes advantage of
the defenses of aggressiveness towards your first option. If your
first option is an off tackle run and they're just
gonna swarm it, how about some bootlegs. You've got an
athletic quarterback, roll him out the other way out of

(14:08):
the pocket. How about some quick snap. Tom brady s
just catch the ball and throw it five yards. And
instead our offense is so reliant on the snap it
Gino sits back there for three seconds, letting a substandard
offensive line trying to protect him, and you got guys
going downfield.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's just it.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't think the play calling is conducive to the
talent you have in the front.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
So so here's my question. If you think that, and
I think that, and Jackson's thinks that, and look, we're
not geniuses here, Okay, despite what people think, despite what
our wives may think, we're not geniuses here. Everything you

(14:54):
just said, wouldn't we think that Ryan Grub would know that?
Wouldn't we think that Ryan Grub would agree with that?
I mean, these are guys that are making millions of
dollars a year. These are you know, college football coordinators
that called plays in a national championship. He's one of
thirty two play colors in the National Football League. Everything
that you're saying, you think he.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Would know, and I think he does know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's the question because either a because he doesn't feel
like his offensive line could even do that, or B
he believes that once he starts doing that, the defenses
is going to figure it out and they're gonna have
to eventually go back to having a more wide array
of plays at their disposal. I think it's a great
question for Hu Melan because it's it's so elementary, right, like,

(15:39):
it all makes total sense why they're not doing that stuff.
And I would love to ask Ryan Grub. I'd love
to get Ryan Grubb back on the air and ask him,
you know, with you with with your offensive line performing
the way they are, and I think PFF had like
two starters that had grades like under sixty yesterday, which
is terrible.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
By the way, le Maya was one of them. I
think he played that bad, but they thought he's stunk.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
I would love to ask Ryan Grubb the exact same
questions because there's got to be an answer for this,
and it's.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Not at all. It's not all Grubb and sorry underrepidated.
If there was a sack that Gino took in the
early fourth quarter in a massively pivotal drive right right,
JSN was wide open, like five yard, a little out
route five yards, you don't even look at him, didn't
even just sitting there wide open five yards from Geno
and Gino standing back looking downfield and taking the sack.
So it's not all Ryan Grubb, there are some routes

(16:26):
that are close to the line of scrimmage that Geno's
gotta see.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think we have to ask one question though, because
I thought I heard Hugh mentioned this today, and we'll
get a break in a second factor of fiction coming
up through thirty five years at four for a little
more at four with you, Let's switch it around for
a little bit. Let's imagine we're living in a world
where the Seahawks are seven and five, but they're winning
games forty five to forty one, and the defense is terrible,

(16:51):
and they're getting shoved around and it's like Big twelve
football at the NFL level?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Right, would we rather have this?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Because again, twelve games into the McDonald era, twelve games
into the Ryan Grub era, and the defense is finally
starting to take shape.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I think the defense looks really damn good.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
The defense looks like you would expect it to look
maybe in like year two under Mike McDonald, right, not
week thirteen under Mike McDonald. So would we rather have this?
I want you to think about that. We'll come back
and chat about it. Is this a better way for
the Seahawks to go? Does this mean better things? For
the Hawks down the road. You hired Mike McDonald to

(17:31):
have an elite defense first and foremost, right and right
now they have an elite defense. Is it too much
to expect them to have an above average offense at
the same time? And would we rather have this than
the Seahawks defense getting shoved around and winning every game
by five points or less and having to score in
the high thirties and low forties to pull it off.

(17:52):
Does this mean better things for the Seahawks future versus
the opposite?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
We'll come back and discuss us that.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
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Speaker 1 (18:06):
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Speaker 3 (18:20):
All right, we got Factor Fiction boys coming up in
a matter of minutes here from the ermokwecause you know
we need a good showing this week, guys, a good showing.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
We have a chance to escape the cellar. We need
some luck.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
We rolled a little bit, all right, We're on a
roll two and one last week, I got the Commanders,
you got, I believe Green Bay against Miami. Jackson lost
on the Giants.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
True true Locke, I mean true Lock.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
I had faith in Drew Locke for no good reason.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
We talked about this. Why the hell would you take
the Giants in anything? It was fun to do. It
was fun. It was funny. You see, good for you.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
This is all about having fun, Uh, Dick, I got,
I got four games here, all right, win twice if
you'll like any of them. Bears and the points against
the Niners, Arizona minus the three against the Seahawks unfortunately,
Atlanta plus the five against Minnesota and Jackson and I
just discussed this despite the decent sized number Miami minus
the six and a half at home against the Jets

(19:15):
on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Oh the last one, actually, I like quite a few
of those. The first one was the.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Bears, Bears and the Niners.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Bears are getting four and a half at San Francisco,
playing better, Niners are falling apart one.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Okay, I will do it, We'll do it. Will be
the one right there.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Bears, I mean, the Bears could have won their last
four games.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
In a row.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
After coach wasn't a moron. It's all about the team,
by the way, boys, all about the team, all right.
So here's the question. The way the Seahawks are winning
games right now, we can all agree is with great defense.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Nobody's gonna debate that, right. Seahawk defense the last month
has been phenomenal. Ever since the Buffalo game, ever since
the arrival of the Messiah Ernest Jones, we call him quad. Uh,
they've been phenomenal, all right, So maybe he's your freaking MVP.
For God's sakes, he might be your MVP when it's
all said and done. Would we rather have this in
year one for Mike McDonald, where the defense is really

(20:07):
starting to click at an almost elite level, but the
offense is still kind of finding their way. Or would
we rather have it in reverse where the offense is
awesome but the defense is just getting shoved around. You
got a defensive minded head coach, the system's not taking
the communications awful, guys are just out of gaps and

(20:29):
they're getting beat every single play.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Would you rather be Cincinnati? I mean Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Dick has the number five scoring offense in the NFL,
but the number thirty one scoring defensive football and they're
four to eight, So what would we rather have?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well, the first is obviously the other way.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
The Cincinnati model is much more aesthetically pleasing to watch,
no question two. It doesn't receive nearly as much criticism
on social media than this type of football. I mean,
this type of thing just painful to on.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Offense is gonna get ripped more than sure.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Man, if we were putting up thirty a game, we'd
be like, oh my god, Ryan Grubb was everything and
more okay than we thought he would be, And Mike
McDonald's actually gonna get it going right, Whereas right now,
I mean we are we are sold that Mike McDonald

(21:26):
is doing one of his two jobs unbelievably well. And
that's the defensive coordinator part of his job. He's doing
it unbelievably well. The head coaching job, you know, fine,
our first place fine so far.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, I think he's been more than fine, but we
can discuss that later.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, I mean he's been fine. I mean it's be
minus ish, you know, so far, pretty good, pretty good,
pretty good. I just I mean this, this offense is
just so much worse than we ever thought it was
going it's worse than it was with Waldron, I mean,
and that's the thing that really bothers me. So I
don't know if i'd I think.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I might trade.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think, wow, I might trade because the questions because
I think that, because then I would just say, hey,
I think Mike McDonald, when he gets his pieces right,
I think he'll be fine. Whereas Ryan Grudbarty has this
piece other than the line ry all the pieces he's.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
See But see, this is my problem with that though,
And I'm gonna I'm gonna get a little worked up.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Okay, if you've awoke in the peace and only took
his thirty five minutes for crying out loud, Okay, you
can't just gloss over that.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
And I feel like you're glossing over it.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I feel like you're glossing over it with the Huskies,
and I feel like you're glossing over it with the Seahawks. Well,
you know, look, just get the line fixed. Like that's like,
that's easy. I mean, John Schnyder's never done that in Seattle.
He's been for fifteen years, and we're talking about just
fix the line, Just fix the line. We're just gonna
gloss over that like it's something that these guys grow
on trees?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
So that's my concern, Jackson, is that we're talking about
having to do something with the offensive line that John
Schneider is a GM hasn't proven he can do.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
I'd see. I'm with Dick, and I'll make this quick.
As than know, we gotta get the fact fiction. I
would make the trade because I too would have faith
that once McDonald establishes his guys and his defense in time,
the defense would come around too.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Well, let's get some thoughts to the text line four
nine four or five one. We'll ask you about this
at four o'clock today. Factor Fiction.

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Speaker 4 (23:47):
All right, we're gonna go with it. We're gonna do
the impossible.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't think there's anybody on this radio show that
would have thought back in September that we would take
the Bears to even cover against the Niners in Week fourteen.
But that's what we're doing, right. I mean, this is
incredible how much the NFL just changes.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, look how they played against the Lions this week.
The Lions are a hell of a lot better than
the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
They lost to the Lions by three.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
They lost in Minnesota by three in overtime, and they
lost to Greenen Bay by one. They have lost their
last three games by a combined seven points. They've lost
six games in a row. They're due. The Niners are
banged up. We don't even know if Perty's gonna be
healthy for the game on Sunday. They feel like they
got one foot in the grave. Boys, the Niners do.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Bears got a long week, two Bears ten days, right,
they get the extra rest. They're motivated, they're playing better
football now. Their coach is gone, who they hated. We're
gonna do the unthinkable.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Three Bears.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
We don't care.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Lose by three is fine, right, Yeah, lose by four,
we don't care. You can four to half. Lose by four.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
We're gonna take the Bears in the four and a
half against the Niners on Sunday Chicago plus the four
and a half against Sam Francisco.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Is to play you like it fact, to hate it
fiction to four nine four one, let's go.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I love this and and just to be able to
how fun was last night just being able to watch
the snow game and it just felt like Christmas. The
Niners just getting pummeled. They look like they're totally dead.
And now I know McCaffrey think no Mason too, That's
what they're saying is on the IR.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
I mean he's done. Both of them are on the IR.
This is fabulous.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I mean everything is good in the world when the
Seahawks win as ugly as they did and the Miners lose,
and not only is it the season over, it might
just be the run.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Over for death could be totally could be.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I mean things could fall apart so badly where they
may have no choice but to say goodbye to Kyle Shanahan,
which I think Kyle Shanahan's a good coach, so I
would not like to see him get fired. But Brock
Perdy's future, Christian McCaffrey's future, I don't know, man, I
just I got a feeling that the Bears might even
win this thing straight up at San Francisco. We're taking

(25:58):
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(26:20):
to by the EQUC Bears at a points is the plans.
Let's do a little fun with audio slash Hey did
you hear that? And then a little more at four
with Hugh coming up at four A ninety three three
kJ at a RFM.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's one with audio.
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Fun with audio so that I hear this correctly, Jackson,
that Leslie Fraser did the coaches press conference today.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
It's for at TV MAC and when do you tell
Dick why that is?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
By the way, Dick, that is because Mike McDonald's wife
has apparently gone into labor, So Mike McDonald has leave
and gold youth as well.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
You know, these guys that can't play in these pregnancies unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
You're gonna rip him the way you ripped players.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Didn't read the manual? Did he apparently didn't read the manual?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Don't screw nine months before the season starts. You're gonna
get on him too.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
A little better in football because they play once a week,
so the chances of you actually missing a game are.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Much excuses alrighty.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Like it it's never it's never good. Like it's never
good regardless of the sport. But it is a little like.
You can dodge bullets a lot easier in football than
you can in in the NBA. In a one hundred
chance you're gonna miss at least.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
What if he misses the game because his wife's in labor,
you gotta jump his bones then, I mean, if you
want your players to respond a certain way, you got.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Right, all right, all right, Uh, let's get a little fun.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Hear that?

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Dick?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Let's start In college football.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
After Michigan's upset at number two Iowa State on Saturday,
players got into a massive fight when Buckeye linebacker Jack
Sawyer ripped away a Michigan flag from being planted into
the Buckeye fifty yard line. After the fight, Wolverine's running
back Kalel Mullings spoke with the Fox crew about what
happened after the game.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Kalal, I know it's a lot to ask you just
to reflect on the scenes that we just witnessed. What's
going through your head right now?

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, you know it was for such a great game.
You you hate to see stuff like that after the game.
You know, that's just bad for the bad for college football.
But at the end of the day, you know, some
people gotta they gotta learn how to lose. Man, you
can't can't be fighting and stuff just because he lost
the game. You know, all that fighting. We had sixty minutes,
We have four quarters to do. All that fighting, and
now people want to talk and fight.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
That's wrong.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
You know, this is bad for the game. Class list
in my opinion, Uh, you know, and and people people
gotta be better.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Well, I gotta be honest with you, man.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I kind of wish the Huskies would have responded three
years ago to Jaden Delora the way the buck guys
responded Saturday to Michigan.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, but the Huskies three years ago didn't have any
fight in them. No, that's true, and that's one of
the reason why they want to get off that field
is well, but.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
That was the problem, is that they had no fight, right.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean, and this is a buckete football team that
at least will play for the college football Championship.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
But I had no problem with Jack Storyer's response at all.
I mean, you pull something like that, you try and
desecrate or disrespect our field. I'm gonna try to back
my my fan base and my program up. So you
want to do that, you better get ready for a response.
And I loved it. There's too much. There's too much
hockey kissy going on, Dick after these games.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
You know my take on this.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Players, Hey, you having fun, shaking hands, hugging it out.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Let's let's see, let's trade jerseys.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
No, you go out, you kick each other's ass for
four quarters, and you pull something like that, we're gonna
kick your ass again.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I've never understood the flag planning. I mean, I don't
know if it started with Baker Mayfield, but that's the
first one I can remember.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
I think it did.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I've never remember. I've never gotten that. It's like, Okay,
you just won on the road. Yeah, you want to
talk a little smack. You want to give a little
something to the fans as you're going to the tunnel, Okay, cool,
But planting the flag to me, that crosses the line.
And when you cross the line, Yeah, I mean, I
have no problem with with Was it Emmitt Smith that
who blew up the guy at the midfield.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Right in the boy game?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
No, Terrell Owens t O did it, and it was Yeah,
it was somebody for the Cowboys. It was like a cornerbacker.
It wasn't Emmitt Smith, but too when he was with
Philadelphia tried to do that at the Star and.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
He got blown up. Yes, yes, I totally like, do
you desecrate the logo? Yes, you you get you get
a cheap shot, and there's no question about.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
It, right, Yeah that was God? Who was it?

Speaker 5 (30:46):
It was?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
It was Monday Night Football? I believe it was twenty
three years ago axt me to log into Facebook. Who
was the guy George t Yes, George Tige was the
guy that just took a shot at t O. All right, hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that you Cahn lost three
games in Maui? After the tournament, Husky head coach Dan Hurley,

(31:10):
reflecting on his team's disastrous performance at the multi team event.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
Maybe that I'm not doing another three game MT again,
and that moving forward we will we will only play
home and homes and single game events in big time arenas.
I don't think I'll ever do a three game MPT
again unless I'm not coaching here at some point somewhere else.

(31:36):
Zero chance I'll do that again.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Oh, I think he just sounds like a clown.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
So it's the okay, so formright, coach? So so, first
of the refs fault you lost? Now, it's the format's
fault MT. By the way, it stands for multi time. Sorry,
So it's the it's the the refs and the team,
not not my fault that I lost to three less
talented teams. In My fault is the coach everybody else's.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I think it sounds like a psychopath.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I think you look like a psychopath the entire week
in Maui, and I will not allow Danny Hurley to
desecrate the good name of the Maui Classic Invitational being
one of the great tournaments that sports has to offer
on this planet.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
You've been there, I've been there. It is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
And if ucon doesn't want to go there anymore, and
that psycho Danny Hurley doesn't want to greace them with
his presence, then I say they're better off without the guy.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I think another. I think another Husky team with a
head coach named be.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Right, Get Get Get, get rid of the psycho Danny
Hurley and bringing the gentleman Danny Sprinkle, by the way.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Won a championship down Tom Springs. I got a chance
to go to that game with my son.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
A fun guess what that was. That was a multi
team event.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
We won the championship with the multiple team events, not
the other Huskies.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
You know what, You can never say that Danny Sprinkle
did not win the Aquasure Championship up in Palm Desert,
never ever. Ever. All right, let's get one more quick one, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that hang on what's that
dick three or four?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Let's stick with this and go to three? All right?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
After Danny Hurley called out the officials throughout the mal imitation,
I made a number of scenes on the court. College
basketball writer Jeff Goodman said this about Hurley on his
Field of sixty eight podcast over the weekend.

Speaker 9 (33:21):
Listen on another note, he's got to grow up. He's
got to grow up. I mean I said this two
years ago. I'm gonna say it again. It's too much
right now. Like Dan love you, man, You're an elite
level coach. You just gotta understand, like, it's not that
one call. It's not that one call that they're getting

(33:42):
you on. It's because it's over and over and over
and the refs don't want to deal with it anymore.
It's even if he's right on a call, it doesn't matter,
and he was yesterday, and the refs have had it
with you because of what you've done.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
And that you act like a child.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Well, he's developing a mutation around college basketball that's gonna
stick with them all year long, no question. And by
the way, it makes me wonder if there's something going
on in his personal life. Honestly, because the way he
snapped over the week in Maui honestly is the reflective
of a guy who's got bigger issues.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
There's getting there's getting mad, and then there's like psycho eyes.
Correct when you go rage monster psycho eyes, Like that's
a different that's a scary level of man.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Dan Landing looked at Hurley and said, man, that guy's
going nuts, all right, three fifty five. He mailed a
little more at four with Hugh the question would you
rather have the Seahawks winning with the opposite or even
just have the inverse the defense stinking but the offense
kicking ass. We'll ask you about that next on ninety
three three KJRFM.

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