March 14, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts talk about a frustration with phones and passwords, then talk about the Seahawks off-season before reacting to Cooper Kupp signing with the Seahawks including a visit from Lindsey Thiry in L.A.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You gotta start keeping a list of things that irritate
me because it's softy cook.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Well, it's just growing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I mean I'm fifty one, almost fifty two years old,
and my given damn meter is in the toilet compared
to where it was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Well, you sent a tweet out today about texts.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No, that's that's one thing. Yeah, and you're the worst.
I'll just say that right now. And by the way,
that text was, that tweet was not directed at you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It shouldn't be direct this.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
I always respond within a couple of hours at the latest.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah. I don't know, man, I don't know. I mean respond.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't think a couple of hours is anything to
take pride in.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Number one, if somebody texts me back within a couple
of hours, that is absolutely within the window of propriety.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Jackson, you tell me, no, give me like a half hour,
half Like if it's something that somebody that you talk
to on a daily or you know, even weekly basis
half hour.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let me ask you a question, how often do you
look at your cell phone?
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Well, when I'm on Twitter, I'm just saying, how often
do you look at yourself general in general, for about
two hours during the morning, I'm always looking at it,
which is when you guys are usually texting it.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
And then after that, like I put it away. Wow,
how do you do that? Because I'm not married to
my freaking cell phone, and I'm telling my kids to
do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You have a watch. Where's your watch?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I know in the watch I have to take it
off sometimes because it buzzes too much, because I get
too many texts.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Dick, it's not that I'm married to my phone. It's
that's it's literally a part of my human body.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Doesn't have to be well. It does night at night
timeouts at night time. I put it down when I
get home. I put it down at seven o'clock and
I probably won't pick it back up until I go
to bed to make sure I didn't miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Okay, we we we we we understand that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Just time out for a second, because to defend him,
just for a little bit. What he just said is
he's not married to his phone. And you said, it's
not that it's a part of my body. You literally
just said what he said. If you're worse than if
you're sitting phone it's a part of your body. Then
you're absolutely you're like a Siamese tweet on your phone.
It's you're like conjoined. But first of all, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm with him.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm exactly the same way as Jackson is. And part
of it is, Hey, there's stuff going on right What
if my mom needs me, what if my wife needs me,
what if somebody the radio station there's news, blah blah blah.
I think the idea of not having my phone within reach,
or not having any idea what's happening on my phone
for hours at a time, I'm not doing that. I
can never do that. It's never gonna happen. But look,
(02:30):
I'm not talking about you and the tweet. Look this,
I'm pissed about something else. I wasn't even pissed about that,
and now I'm pissed about that. Okay, the head the
phone thing wasn't even what I was thinking about until
you brought it up. The idea that you ignore your
phone for that long, and there's like eighteen different texts
that go back and forth between me and Jackson. Were
waiting for your response, and then you come on, you
(02:52):
join the party, and you got to catch up right,
and you don't know what the hell's happening or what's
going on?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
If I should, if I could screen shop the next morning,
you and Jackson this morning, like, oh my God made
my head.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So there's this.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Conversations going on that again, and we've I've I've asked
you this before on the ear and uh, if you
don't want to be a part of it, we can
leave you off.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Jackson. I can just make all the decisions.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
No, I just need to, like, there are certain things
that my brain functions well at, and reading a scroll
of text is not one.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Here's what's driving me nuts right now, All right, here's
what's Here's what's pissing off the cranky old man today.
I am sick and tired of having all these goddarn
passwords and user names for websites over the internet and apps.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Like I just saw a tweet from Boom Boom about
the Cooper Cup story and I wanted to read it.
And I thought I was logged into the Athletic. Apparently
I'm not, so now I have to log in. I
don't know what my password is. Can I just look
at a computer? Have it scanned my retina and sign
me in actually on your on your iPhone, it does that. No, right, totally,
I'm saying, like on the on the on the desktop
here in the studio something.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So why can't we have that same technology here?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Why do I have to keep remembering all these stupid passwords?
I have literally all these websites and apps that I
have access to, and I have all the passwords written
down like in my notes in my in my iPhone,
and I'm tired of it, man, I'm freaking tired of
having all these goddarn apps and passwords and emails and
user names and loggins and uh code set to my
phone and secondary codes notifications and ems and give me
(04:19):
a blood sample and pee in a cup and just
drive me nuts.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I can only speak for Android as an Android user.
I am signed into my Google account every single place
that I have, like my you know, the chrome that
I have up right here on my phone, every I
and the Google saved passwords. I have my password saved
in all the browsers. So whenever I log into an
online browser, whether it's desktop or phone, is logged in
my Google account, which has my safe What is what hour?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Because Dick and I share these passwords. Whatever, what the
hell is our athletic account?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know what it is? I'll okay, because this is
just I am so dumb with this man.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Life was simpler, right, I mean, god, it's like all
these things that people and I feel like an old
man obviously, but all these things that our grandparents and
our parents used to do that we used to make
fun of.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Right, this is why, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This is why our relatives, This is why our relatives
have like eighty thousand dollars in a coffee can in
the attic, you know, because of things like this. Yeah,
this is why they write things down on a piece
of paper and put it into a freaking drawer in
their desk. I'm just I am getting old before your
very eyes. Man, how much money should you have saved away?
Like put away in the banker in a coffee canoe?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like? How how much is like are you supposed to
as a young adult. I was never really taught you
would need.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Enough to like buy things for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You would need enough if farmer getting hit, Yeah, the
banks got taken over before going to be valuable though
that maybe.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Not maybe not? Maybe I would I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Grand like, I don't have any use, so I don't know,
like am I supposed to?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, you should have some.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
My biggest fear is that we're gonna wake up one
day and money is going to be totally useless. Yeah, exactly,
and everybody will be like, you know, currency will be
like rocks or something, right, marshmallows or whatever, you know,
something like that fingernails cash in anyway, going back to
the original point of me logging onto the Athletic, when
you said the Bengals, I think you said, Diana's got
(06:18):
a story and the Bengals out about Jamar chasing those guys.
I thought, I'm going to reference the Cooper Cup story.
So she's got a report out on Cooper Cup that
the Cowboys and Seahawks are interested, and that the asking
price for him, she's hearing could be between thirteen and
fifteen million dollars for Cooper Cup for one season. So
(06:39):
when that lands wherever it lands, if it's thirteen million
bucks to sign Cooper Cup for a year, two year,
twenty six million dollar deal, let's say, I don't know
fifteen whatever, that is that a turnoff? Is that a
turn on? Is that Okay, is it not? Okay, Hawks
have money to spend, that should not be a problem
for them. I think Cooper Cup would be going to
(07:00):
amazing addition to the Seahawks offense, way more than Marcus
Valdez Scandling obviously. I mean, when Cooper Cup is healthy,
he's been extremely productive. His problem is he has been
banged up. He's missed the years with the football in
the last three seasons.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, I think the first number that comes on my
mind for him is probably ten. So that's not totally
out of the realm of possibility, especially if you add
I think with a contract for him, you need to
have incentives because if he catches ninety balls for eleven
hundred yards, which is not out of the realm of possibility,
if he's healthy, then he should be paid for that production.
But we should also get some protection as well in
(07:33):
case he has forty catches and play seven games. Well,
the question is will there be a team out there
that is just going to pay him and not worry
about incentives, because you're saying if the Cowboys do that,
for example, then you're out right like if the Cowboys
just say, you know what, never mind the incentives we'll
just give you fourteen million.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Done, You're good to go.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, you'll have some incentives, but we're going to guarantee
you the majority of your contract. And you're asking the
Hawks not to do that. And I look, I would
you sign Cooper Cup and not throw the guy the ball?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So I he's not gonna open, I would feel well,
I think he's gonna get open.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I just the injuries are a concern.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, when you've missed seventeen games in three years,
you can't just dismiss that if you're if you're John Schneider.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I don't think his agent can either.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
No, I don't think Super Cups agent cannot go to
a team and say, my client has played nine, twelve
and twelve games in the last three give me what
a regular sixteen seventeen game wide receiver would make.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He just can't. There's no legs to stand on for
his agent.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, but all it takes is one All it takes
is one team to say okay, right, And if you
got a three or a fourteen bidding war going on,
and the Cowboys and Jerry Jones are dumb enough to
say all right, we'll give it to you, then you're fine.
I mean I would ask for that if I was
his agent, right. I mean, there's no agent worth his
salt that's going to start in a negotiation saying hey, look,
I know my guy's been banged up, so why don't
we focus on incentives.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I mean, that's not nobody's having that conversation.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They may not say yes, right, but he's starting it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Seahawks, the Charge Jurors,
whoever's looking for a wide receiver whatever, blah blah blah.
I mean, when you got all these teams involved, man,
I mean, look at some of the contracts that were
getting tossed around for some of these baseball players a
couple of years ago, right, I mean, look at what
Shaquille Griffin when the Jaguars signed him to that big, huge,
fat contract. Remember that, We're like, what are you doing that?
(09:17):
It's the Jaguars, They're dumb, and they just gave him
the money.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And look, alla x is one team.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Look at the will Free situation because apparently from what
we heard from John by the way, I thought it
was Friesshfferent. Anyway, regardless of the Guard. He went to the
Viking right. So apparently from what John Schneider said yesterday,
Minnesota said, nope, don't care about a physical, don't care about.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Checking out your injury. You know, come on in.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Teams are dumb in that regard, and teams could just say,
you know, say Cooper Cup, we don't care about anything.
Here's twenty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So teams are ridiculous in that regard, and you will
need if you want Cooper Cup, you're gonna have to
be a little ridiculous too.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You might have to be. It just depends on the market.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
If the market's ridiculous, then you got to ask yourself,
do I want to be ridiculous? And frankly, I mean again,
I would really like to have Cooper Cup here. I
would rather spend that money on the offensive line than
Cooper Cup. To be totally honest with you, and go
out and draft a wide receiver. But I don't know
if the Hawks are in love. There's a rumor that
maybe Tevin Jenkins is coming to town on Monday to
visit the Seahawks, So that's some good news there. Makai
Becton's still out there Brad Burry has he been released
(10:18):
officially yet from Minnesota. I have not seen if he's
been let go or not. After they signed Ryan Kelly
in free agency. So there's going to be some players
that will come open, and it is smart for John
to not commit everything now because you never know what
this thing's going to look like in July in training camp,
when guys get hurt and they have to get released,
or you know, guys get cut because somebody else becomes available.
(10:39):
But I just think that the Cooper Cup thing, to me,
you want to lose a DK Metcalf and replace him
at least for a year with a Cooper Cup who's
making at most maybe half at most half of what
DK Metcalf got from Pittsburgh. To me, that's a good investment.
That's a really good investment for John Schneider. You're not
committing long term, saving fifty percent off the top.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You're getting a veteran.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You're getting a guy that, obviously, when healthy, has been
very productive and the only concern has been the injury factor,
which is a concern.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, it's the link of the contract and how easy
it is to get out of because the one thing
you don't want to do is commit a lot of
money to a three year contract and by October of
this year you go, oh my god, this guy is
truly done washed.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right exactly, you cannot that that is which I don't
think that's the cap killer.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't think that's the case. One year deal.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You want to go fifteen million dollars and just say, hey,
play one year, let's see what you got.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Here's fifteen mil.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Then I'm much more okay with that, because you're only
hurting yourself this year.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Then well, look, I mean here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And I was just not with Surren in Kansas City,
you know, on his what's the thing they call it?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Is it the drill? The drill? Yeah, I mean it's insane.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I mean, Jackson, we should get me and Dick spend
more time on that radio station.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I swear.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It is unbelievable. I mean he had me. Did I
tell you about this? He had me on the day
after the Super Bowl when they lost to Philadelphia and
it was booked on Friday. I'm like, dude, what are
you doing. You're playing in the Super Bowl. I gotta
be honest with you, Siren. If the Hawks are playing
in the Super Bowl against the Broncos or whoever. I'm
(12:18):
not calling you to come on the show Monday.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
The only host you having from another city is the
team you just played this under.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It was amazing. I mean, they give him credit. They
are committed to that bit. It is insane how committed
they are to that bit. But we're on today and
he's asking me about DK Metcalf, and I just said, look,
I don't think and this is nothing I haven't told
you guys on the air, and I know you agree
with this. I don't think this is the time and
place in the Seahawks history, with all the other issues
(12:46):
they have to be paying a wide receiver thirty million
dollars a year. Come back to me in a year
from now, right, come back to me in two years
from now. If the offensive line gets redone and they
look phenomenal and they're freaking awesome and blah blah blah,
and there's some money and somebody comes available, Hey great.
I mean, it would have been awesome if DK Metcalf
had two more years left on his deal and not one.
That would have given the Hawks an extra year to
fix the line. But let's face it, ever since DK
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Metcalf has been here, They've been trying to fix the
offensive line and they haven't been able to do it,
So why would we believe anything would be different. But
the point that I brought up with him is that
it's not the right time. It's the right time for
a team like Kansas City to go get a DK
Metcalf or a Buffalo Bills to get a DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Not the Steelers. Not the Steelers, not at all.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I mean, dude, they're talking about now having to choose
between Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Did you read Florio's piece, He said the Seahawks. The
Seahawks knew what they were doing. They knew they were
getting back to They got Regina. He says, like, what
are the Steelers doing? They just got a Ferrari, a
wide receiver with nobody they know that that's.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Gonna throw to him. Well, here is one of the
concerns about Cooper Cup. I know we're kind of top
of cop in here bouncing around, but I'm looking at
Cooper Cup's game log and we'll eventually get somebody on
from LA and talk about this. Cooper Cup had three
games last year where he had over ten targets. It
was against the Seahawks, the Patriots, and it was against
Philadelphia eleven catches for a bucko four, six for a
(14:10):
bucko six, eight for sixty and had I think three
touchdowns combined in those three games towards the end of
the year.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And I don't know if he was dealing with something.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
He may have had some kind of a foot injury
or a high ankle sprain he was dealing with.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I got no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He had nine targets combined in the last three games
that he played in the regular season for the Rams
for four catches, and then he sat out the last
game because everybody sat out the last game because it
was meaningless for LA. But down the stretch when they
were trying to kind of wrap this thing up, he
was a real non factor. And I'd love to know why.
(14:44):
I mean, look, you know, all the numbers say that
with Cooper Cup is healthy, he's been fined, but he's
been fining that system for Sean McVay and with Matt Stafford.
And how do we The question I have about Cooper
Cup is this, so we're going to break and discuss
this more next segment. How do we ma re up
the idea that we're drooling over ourselves when Clint Kubiak
(15:04):
and Sam Darnold say we're going to run the ball
a lot more and then go out and get fired
up about giving Cooper Cup fourteen million dollars and wanting
him to catch ninety balls one hundred and thirty targets.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, I can easily answer that you may do that,
and then I'll do it next.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We'll tease the audience Cliffhanger next on ninety three three KJAR.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Actually, the whole time we got to set the show up.
We got.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Jackson Bevans joining us at five. Sorry about that. He's
in for you today. We have a jumbo fun with
audio coming up at four o'clock on the radio program
A Little You make the Call at six, and then
Dan Bilsma, cracking head coach, was with us on Wednesday
game day against Montreal. We joked, if you win the
game today, you got to come back with us on Friday,
and they won the game.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So he's going to join us right before.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Face off tonight at around six fifteen before the Crack
and take on Utah coming up on ninety three three KJRFM. Well,
we are back with some breaking news on the radio station,
and I think very appropriate giving the conversation we were
just having last segment. By the way, yes, I and Rapaport,
(16:08):
Tom Pelasero NFL network reporting wide receiver Cooper Cup expected
to sign with the Seattle Seahawks and likely to make
fifteen million dollars a year or more with the team.
Brand new weapon for Sam Donald, brand new weapon for
Clint Kubiak, the Yakama, Washington native and former Eastern Washington
(16:31):
Eagle who almost beat the Huskies by himself.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
By the way, yes, he.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is coming back to the state of Washington to be
a member of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And my reaction is I'm thrilled.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I mean, look, I know there's concerns about the money,
there's concerns about the injury. I was gonna have the
conversation with you heading into this segment about Hey, you
got offensive line needs you have to fill. How do
you do all this? Well, this is now on John
Schneider to figure out. I mean, if John Schneider is
going to go out and get Sam Donald and Cooper Cup,
he's got to give those guys time to operate. And
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that means fixing the offensive line right. That means making
sure that Sam Darnold is not under pressure, that he's
not under durest that Cooper Cupp has time to get downfield,
and using him in a unique way right to make
sure you take advantage of his skill set. But look,
I mean nothing's guaranteed, and everything comes with a small amount.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Of risk or a lot of risk, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
But overall, from a view from fifty thousand feet, I
am jacked up that Cooper Cupp is a Seahawk. I
think this is awesome for them. He's been very productive
when he's been healthy. Yes he's been banged up. Yes
he's missed a bunch of games the last three years,
but when he's on the field, he is dynamite. Three
year deal, by the way for Cooper Cup is what
we're hearing. By the way now at the studio, Cooper
Cup is going to be a Seahawk.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Howbout that?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Well?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I think he's the perfect guy to have if you
don't have a very good offensive line, right because his
average depth of target last year was just seven and
a half yards. I mean he gets into the secondary
quickly and you throw short routes to him. So when
you do struggle at the offensive line, you don't don't
want guys that you got to hold the ball three banana,
four banana, five banana before you before you let go
(18:04):
of it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And that's not how Cooper Cup plays.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And so he's actually kind of an extension of the
running game because people have said short passing game is
an extension of the running game. And he would be
perfect with these bootlegs that they're talking about, with these
play action strikes that they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I think it's a good fit for sel. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I still think you got to fix that line, Dick
to get the most I'm saying you don't.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Have to fix it.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I'm just saying he's the type of receiver that I
think is can nullify a bit of your line problems.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah maybe, I don't know. I mean, you could be right.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just think that if you want to get the
best out of these guys, and if you're paying Cooper
Cup and Sam Donald combined forty eight million dollars a
year now right between those two guys, whatever that number
is going to be, then I want the best out
of him, right, I don't want to just be okay
with those guys.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I mean, I look, I.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Mean this, these signings that the Seahawks have made, especially
Sam Donald and especially now Cooper Cup not so much
envy and not so much to Marcus Lawrence, but they
are important depth pieces.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
There's no question about that to me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
In this division, with what's happening in San Francisco, and
I think the Rams are a weaker football team without
Cooper Cup than with them. I think we should be
talking about winning the West, winning the NFC West.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I mean, they tied the Rams last year. That's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
They won ten games, and they tied the Rams with
Gino Smith and now they think.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They've upgraded at quarterback with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So you want to get the best out of these
guys and result in a division championship and host a
playoff game and win a playoff game for the first
time at home since twenty sixteen. You got to give
these guys as much of a chance as possible Dick
to get the best out of him, and that means
fixing that damn line. But Cooper Cup is this is
a great story for the Seahawks. It's a great story
(19:47):
for him. It's a great story for the state of Washington.
This is a guy that wasn't even recruited out of
high school for crying out Loud, had to go to
Eastern Washington and prove his worth in FCS and now
we get to come back home and play for the
Seahawks making fifteen million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Good for him, man, No, absolutely, I mean did the
Rams get better this year? Did the Seahawks get better
this year? I mean the Rams picked up Davonte Adams.
I mean they traded out Cooper Cup for Davante Adams.
That's a significant upgrade. The question is, is the upgrade
from Gino Smith to Sam Donald greater then or less
then the upgrade from Cooper Cup to Devonte Adams?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Say that again?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Is the is the upgrade from Geno to Sam Darnold,
which everybody can speculate what that is. Is it greater
then or less then the upgrade from Cooper Cup to
Devonte Adams?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, I mean, look, there's a reason why these guys
obviously are available. I think a Cooper Cupp's situation, it
might just be because of the injury factor and the
fact that they might think that they did upgrade a
little bit with Devonte Adams. I just wonder, when both
guys are totally healthy and they're on, who the better
receiver is. And I think you can make an argument
that right now it's Cooper Cup if.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
They're both healthy, they're both healthy, and they're both on
for what.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That guy does.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And I thought they've put up a lot more thousand
yard seasons and a lot more ten touchdown seasons. I'm
talking about right now today. I mean, I totally agree
with that. I mean, overall, I think DeVante's had the
better career. I mean, look, if you look at Cooper
Cupp's career and you took and you take away Dick
that giant nineteen hundred yard season that he had three
or four years ago, there's not a lot around it.
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He only had one other thousand yard season and one
other ten touchdown season, and that was in twenty nineteen.
So if you want to debate and tell me that
DeVante Adams has had the better career, totally agree with
you one hundred percent. Not even worth fighting about who's
the better receiver right now to the Seahawks, and really
not even the conversation shouldn't even be DeVante versus Cooper.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The conversation should be Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
At fifteen million dollars a year or DK Metcalf at
thirty million dollars a year. That's what's a better fit
for the Seahawks. And it's a better fit for the
Seahawks I think if they go ahead and spend the
money wisely on the right freaking guys, that's the point. Hey,
look on the surface, you can have Cooper Cup for
fifteen million, or you can have DK Metcalf for thirty Okay,
give me Cooper Cup in the fifteen But what am
(22:08):
I doing with the fifteen million dollars?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Just got word from Adam Schefter here that it is
a three year deal worth up to apparently forty five
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Okay, three years up to forty five How much guarantee?
Do you know how much guarantee? Yes? Okay, that's probably gonna
be somewhere in the half range.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Also, we'll tell you guys right now producing on the air.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
JB.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Long Rams play by play voice will be all with
us at four to ten today.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Great, awesome, very cool, love it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, twenty to twenty five you were bitching the air
day about me being not too not positive.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Today, I'm excited about piece.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I am really fired up for this, and I've been
talking about this for a couple of days now on
the air and on social media. Marquez Valdez Scanling, bless
his heart, I'm sorry, could not be your number two
wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He just couinked.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, Now he's in the right spot at number three
and maybe even number four. Right we'll see in the
verse ninety picks. We'll see what they do on draft ding.
No question, they get the kid from Iowa state that
you and I kind of have our eye on, which,
by the way, they could use that big body guy.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And they can also have they can do a slow
burn on the youngster too. If they draft a cup
wide receiver in the second round, they don't have to
throw them into the fire right away. They've got three
veterans that they can put in there right now.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Good for them, And look, I'll admit that there is
a part of it that, hey, he's from the state,
he went to Eastern he almost beat the Huskies by himself.
I mean, we're a little more familiar with him than
maybe a guy in New Orleans or Jack Chamville or whatever,
and you play him twice a year so we know
what he's all about. I mean, the guys, like in
your mind's eye, how many visions do you have in
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your minds? I have Cooper Cup dropping a football like
Nest year, right. I mean, he is just glue. It
feels like he's glue. And I'm sure that there's moments
where he had some you know, brain farts and things
like that. But no, I'm thrilled about this again, Chefter saying,
Cooper Cup in the Hawks three years, forty five million dollars.
Now we have to figure out how much money they
have left. And now we got to figure out how
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to fix that line to get the most out of
these guys and get that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Taken care of. Jabi Long you said, will join us
at fourten.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Lindsey Ferry, who covers the Rams and the Chargers down
there in LA. She's gonna hop on as well. Next
on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
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Speaker 1 (24:27):
Action from Adams, puffs fires deep looking for Cooper Cup
Cup touchdown Eastern Washington, forty one yards.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Adams to Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Adams the quarterback empty backfield throws looking for Cooper Cup
touchdown Eastern Washington.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Vernon Adams this.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Second time he has found cup for a score. Today
for the sideline Cooper Cup dance his way toward the goal.
Lighties in cups third touchdown.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It sounds like roxy Bernstein by the way, fifty nine
fifty two final. Washington gets to win over Eastern Washington.
Cooper Cup. Eight catches one hundred and forty five yards
and three touchdowns that game. Another receiver you may know,
Kendrick Bourne in that game eight catches a buck fourteen
and Vernon Adams big old vern thirty one for forty
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six four to seventy five.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Seven touchdowns were against you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Very lucky to escape with our life with Sanler Miles
playing quarterback by the way that day well.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Joining us right now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
She covers the Rams, covers everything in LA for ESPN
LA and the NFL. Down there in Tinseltown. Our old
friend Lindsey Theory is with us on the show. Hey,
how are you?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
What's going on, talky? I was just thinking about you
the other day, and I promise you this is a
true story. I'm going to Malley on Sunday and one
of the best memories of Malley a senior glowing red
space there coincidentally a few years ago. Gosh, that was
a good time.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think that was the day you made out of
my turtle swim trunks, by the way, which I burned turtles.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Right, he had the shirt up with the Islands full
pers best versus Sky.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
There is so embarrassed that you called me out. I
threw that stuff in the trash can. Well, Cooper Cup
is a Seahawk. You've been covering him, you know what
the deal? Lizzie's missed a bunch of games the last
three years, but when he's healthy, he's been more than fine.
Tell us about Cooper Cup and what Seahawks fans are
getting in this guy.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean you guys know you've had to
face him twice a year every year since he was
drafted at twenty seventeen. And look, there's nothing to know
about Cooper Cup. I know he's been dealing with the injuries,
the last couple of years, he's dealt with a couple
of nagging ankle things coming in and out. But there's
a very motivated Cooper Cup coming to Seattle. This is
a guy who really thought he was going to finish
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his career here in La. Frankly, I thought he would
finish his career here in La knowing how much Seaman
Bay loved him and leaned on him throughout his young career.
But obviously Cooper Cups became available, it was a great
gap for the Seahawks. The biggest question is obviously just
the health. Can he stay healthy? I think he will
be able to do. He puts a lot of work into
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his body, has a very special diet. You're not going
to find someone that works harder than Cooper Cups. And
then on top of that, obviously you guys know the
kind of playmaker he is, whether the ball's in his
hands or not. So this is a really nice pickup
for the Seahawks. It's going to be a really nice
target for Sam Dartle's and I think Staffstan should be
pretty excited about.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
What he can do when he is healthy.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Lindsey, how is he a getting open compared to the
Cooper Cup of twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Yeah, just so he's lots of steps. I will have
to say he doesn't look quite like he doesn't have
quite the birth he used to. But it's not about him.
If he's like such a technician and he's so good
with his rous and he's so Chris that he finds
a way to make it happen. I don't know that
we saw the ball end up in his hands as
much recently because they had Cooper Nakula, who is just
kind of that step quicker than Cooper. Matthew Stafford was
(27:58):
kind of looking for it on this first looks throughout
the last couple of seasons here. But I think Cooper
Cup is still very capable of getting open and he's
very capable of making guy's miss on the catch and
run opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
How much does he owe to Sean McVay Lindsey, I
mean clearly right, because you're taking this guy out of
his bosom. You're you're you're taking his binkie away, and
Matt Stafford and Sean McVay and that famous Rams offense
down there, and now I was coming up here to
play for Clint Kobiak that runs the outside zone. He's
playing for Sam Darnold's had one really good year in
his life. So how much is he kind of in
(28:33):
debt to Sean McVay and how much of a concern
would that be bringing him out of that system.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Well, I think it's actually kind of goes both ways.
I think Cooper cups an in debt to Sean McVay
because Seann Vey knew exactly how to use him. But
Cooper Cuff's credit, I mean he brought a lot of
that guy will do anything that is asked him, I think,
regardless of the system. Right, he's a guy who's going
to block for his teammates. He's a guy that's going
to figure out a way to get open. And that's
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a football mind that he is. Something David often talk
about how it's like another quarterback on the fields. Cooper
Cup is more than happy to bring his ideas, bring
you insight. He is such like a film junkie. He's
the first one, I know, listen, first one in the buildings.
He really is. Like him and Matthew Stafford had the
breakfast club. They're the first ones in the building. So
that's going to be Cooper Cup like, he will study
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any offense and he will find a way to make
himself work in that system.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Lindsay, as you know, as everybody knows, we have a
terrible offensive line.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It is a work in progress. Way sorry, sorry for
the brick youtune.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I made a comment, and tell me if it's just
totally off base and totally nuts, because I say nuts
things all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I made a comment last second. I said, it seems like.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Cooper Cup is the type of receiver that could actually
help out a bad offensive line because most of his
targets correct me wrong if I'm wrong, or within ten
yards of the line of scrimmage, the quarterback is going
to get the ball out of his hands quickly to Cooper.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Yeah, you are correct. I mean, I don't know if
we can make up for a really bad office is one,
but he can help the situation. He like if he's
a kind of a catch your run guy, and he
will get there to a spot quick and Sam Darno
will be able to know it depends that he's going
to be exactly where he needs to be, and Samily
will get the ball on the hands very quickly, knowing
Cooper Cup is going to be exactly where where planned?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, Lindsay theory esp and l A is with us
a former Mariner ball girl, I believe as well.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I'm sorry, Rally Rally girl. It's been so long I
forgot what your actual job was. To be honest with you,
But now you're a mom? How many kids you got?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Now?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
By the way, I am the mom? Is that wild?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Crazy?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Two kids? And in fact I'm sitting in the Target
parking lot because I have a few last minutes things
to get to you a one year old birthday tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Oh you did?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Did you ever walk down and deliver the big turkey
leg for the King's Court too?
Speaker 8 (30:57):
No? The King's Court was after my time? That makes
me feel really old. But yeah, definitely I did deliver
Relly Prize Thoughes to Ken Grippy Jr.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
That a year ago.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That should be in your Twitter bio. Is your claim
to fame? But how much weaker are the Rams today?
I mean, we know they got Davonte. Obviously, they tied
with the Seahawks a year ago. They won the tiebreakers,
so they won the West. Do you feel like the
the the gap, whatever the gap was between the Rams
and Seahawks a month ago is now closing. Is it
the same, is it getting bigger? How do you kind
(31:29):
of uh, you know, dice that down.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
I mean, don't choose the messenger here, but I think
it actually got a little bit wider. The Rams, you know,
getting Davante Adams. I really think he is going to
be a great piece for them in his ability as
just a bigger target for Matthew Stafford. I was obviously
at the game in Philadelphia. They lost but one play,
and they were on the wad of enery championship if
(31:53):
it were not for one play there at the end
and the snow and all the things. But I think
that the Rams definitely gotch stronger. That young defensive front
they have. I certainly want to want to face them.
That's that's a really solid group that the little lead
to get better. They had a couple of rookies up
there this year, so uh, you know, kind of like
the bigger picture looking at the NFC West this year,
I would pick the Rams, uh, And then I easily
(32:16):
go with the Seahawks. The Cardinals are hard to trust
at any point. And then the forty nine ers right
now just seem to be a little bit of everywhere
and nowhere at the same time, so I think it
will have been close between the Rams and the Seahawks.
But I definitely have to give the nod to the
Rams and what they did by by going out and
getting DeVante Adams. The big walls were Cooper Cup, but
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Cook and a Coup really kind of led the way
for them last year, so I don't know that they're
going to miss Cooper hard to say that that much.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
DeVante also, well, clearly you don't know what the hell
you're talking about, So that's fine.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Nobody's perfect. I'm kidding you.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Hey, listen, we love you, congrats on everything you're doing
down there in LA and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
All right, Thank you, Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Lindsay's theory with us, ESP and LA on the coup
Cooper Cup signing. The Seahawks again have not announced this,
but multiple reports including your Buddy Chefty three years, forty
five million dollars for Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
To the Seahawks, and Cooper Cup has now confirmed it
himself at social media with a special graphics saying time.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
When do you get him on the air?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I think a real producer would have him booked by
five o'clock tonight for the show five hundred dollars bounty.
By the way, you get Cooper Cup on the show
by seven o'clock tonight, five hundred dollars bounty paid by
Dick Vane.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
How about this free.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Agent class by John Schneier, the guy that hates free agents, right,
the guy that never wants to spend in free agency,
and he is spending a lot of money this offset.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Well, the question is are they getting the right guys?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I mean, if you're going to be the skeptic and
just kind of take that side for a second, you
are signing two guys that were banged up a year ago,
and DeMarcus Lawrence and Cooper Cup. You're signing two guys
in their thirties and DeMarcus Lawrence and Cooper Cup. And
you're signing a quarterback to a thirty three million dollar
a year deal, replacing Geno Smith with him who's had
one really good year in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I mean again, I like everything they've done. I'm way
more excited about the Cooper Cup signing that I am.
The Marcus Valdez Scandling and DeMarcus Lawrence signings to be
totally honest with you. I realize the Seahawks need depth
and rotational depth on their defensive line and all that
stuff is important, but you're gonna get rid of these guys.
You're gonna get rid of players like Gino and like
(34:21):
DK Metcalf and let Tyler Lockett walk you better, Dan
Well replace them, and they're replacing them. They're working on
replacing them. Now, fix the line, and let's really start
going nuts. Okay, let's see these guys really dive in
to get this offensive line back, and let's really start believing, Dick,
that these guys could be a real factor in the
NFC West next season and maybe even do bigger things
(34:42):
than just that we're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
JB.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Long is the voice of the Rams. He'll join us
coming up. Hugh Millen gonna hop on as well, give
us his thoughts on this at four point thirty on
ninety three to three KJARFM.
Where go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You gotta start keeping a list of things that irritate
me because it's softy cook.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Well, it's just growing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I mean I'm fifty one, almost fifty two years old,
and my given damn meter is in the toilet compared
to where it was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Well, you sent a tweet out today about texts.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No, that's that's one thing. Yeah, and you're the worst.
I'll just say that right now. And by the way,
that text was, that tweet was not directed at you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It shouldn't be direct this.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
I always respond within a couple of hours at the latest.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah. I don't know, man, I don't know. I mean respond.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't think a couple of hours is anything to
take pride in.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Number one, if somebody texts me back within a couple
of hours, that is absolutely within the window of propriety.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Jackson, you tell me, no, give me like a half hour,
half Like if it's something that somebody that you talk
to on a daily or you know, even weekly basis
half hour.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let me ask you a question, how often do you
look at your cell phone?
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Well, when I'm on Twitter, I'm just saying, how often
do you look at yourself general in general, for about
two hours during the morning, I'm always looking at it,
which is when you guys are usually texting it.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
And then after that, like I put it away. Wow,
how do you do that? Because I'm not married to
my freaking cell phone, and I'm telling my kids to
do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You have a watch. Where's your watch?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I know in the watch I have to take it
off sometimes because it buzzes too much, because I get
too many texts.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Dick, it's not that I'm married to my phone. It's
that's it's literally a part of my human body.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Doesn't have to be well. It does night at night
timeouts at night time. I put it down when I
get home. I put it down at seven o'clock and
I probably won't pick it back up until I go
to bed to make sure I didn't miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Okay, we we we we we understand that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Just time out for a second, because to defend him,
just for a little bit. What he just said is
he's not married to his phone. And you said, it's
not that it's a part of my body. You literally
just said what he said. If you're worse than if
you're sitting phone it's a part of your body. Then
you're absolutely you're like a Siamese tweet on your phone.
It's you're like conjoined. But first of all, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm with him.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm exactly the same way as Jackson is. And part
of it is, Hey, there's stuff going on right What
if my mom needs me, what if my wife needs me,
what if somebody the radio station there's news, blah blah blah.
I think the idea of not having my phone within reach,
or not having any idea what's happening on my phone
for hours at a time, I'm not doing that. I
can never do that. It's never gonna happen. But look,
(02:30):
I'm not talking about you and the tweet. Look this,
I'm pissed about something else. I wasn't even pissed about that,
and now I'm pissed about that. Okay, the head the
phone thing wasn't even what I was thinking about until
you brought it up. The idea that you ignore your
phone for that long, and there's like eighteen different texts
that go back and forth between me and Jackson. Were
waiting for your response, and then you come on, you
(02:52):
join the party, and you got to catch up right,
and you don't know what the hell's happening or what's
going on?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
If I should, if I could screen shop the next morning,
you and Jackson this morning, like, oh my God made
my head.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So there's this.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Conversations going on that again, and we've I've I've asked
you this before on the ear and uh, if you
don't want to be a part of it, we can
leave you off.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Jackson. I can just make all the decisions.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
No, I just need to, like, there are certain things
that my brain functions well at, and reading a scroll
of text is not one.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Here's what's driving me nuts right now, All right, here's
what's Here's what's pissing off the cranky old man today.
I am sick and tired of having all these goddarn
passwords and user names for websites over the internet and apps.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Like I just saw a tweet from Boom Boom about
the Cooper Cup story and I wanted to read it.
And I thought I was logged into the Athletic. Apparently
I'm not, so now I have to log in. I
don't know what my password is. Can I just look
at a computer? Have it scanned my retina and sign
me in actually on your on your iPhone, it does that. No, right, totally,
I'm saying, like on the on the on the desktop
here in the studio something.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So why can't we have that same technology here?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Why do I have to keep remembering all these stupid passwords?
I have literally all these websites and apps that I
have access to, and I have all the passwords written
down like in my notes in my in my iPhone,
and I'm tired of it, man, I'm freaking tired of
having all these goddarn apps and passwords and emails and
user names and loggins and uh code set to my
phone and secondary codes notifications and ems and give me
(04:19):
a blood sample and pee in a cup and just
drive me nuts.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I can only speak for Android as an Android user.
I am signed into my Google account every single place
that I have, like my you know, the chrome that
I have up right here on my phone, every I
and the Google saved passwords. I have my password saved
in all the browsers. So whenever I log into an
online browser, whether it's desktop or phone, is logged in
my Google account, which has my safe What is what hour?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Because Dick and I share these passwords. Whatever, what the
hell is our athletic account?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know what it is? I'll okay, because this is
just I am so dumb with this man.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Life was simpler, right, I mean, god, it's like all
these things that people and I feel like an old
man obviously, but all these things that our grandparents and
our parents used to do that we used to make
fun of.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Right, this is why, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This is why our relatives, This is why our relatives
have like eighty thousand dollars in a coffee can in
the attic, you know, because of things like this. Yeah,
this is why they write things down on a piece
of paper and put it into a freaking drawer in
their desk. I'm just I am getting old before your
very eyes. Man, how much money should you have saved away?
Like put away in the banker in a coffee canoe?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like? How how much is like are you supposed to
as a young adult. I was never really taught you
would need.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Enough to like buy things for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You would need enough if farmer getting hit, Yeah, the
banks got taken over before going to be valuable though
that maybe.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Not maybe not? Maybe I would I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Grand like, I don't have any use, so I don't know,
like am I supposed to?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, you should have some.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
My biggest fear is that we're gonna wake up one
day and money is going to be totally useless. Yeah, exactly,
and everybody will be like, you know, currency will be
like rocks or something, right, marshmallows or whatever, you know,
something like that fingernails cash in anyway, going back to
the original point of me logging onto the Athletic, when
you said the Bengals, I think you said, Diana's got
(06:18):
a story and the Bengals out about Jamar chasing those guys.
I thought, I'm going to reference the Cooper Cup story.
So she's got a report out on Cooper Cup that
the Cowboys and Seahawks are interested, and that the asking
price for him, she's hearing could be between thirteen and
fifteen million dollars for Cooper Cup for one season. So
(06:39):
when that lands wherever it lands, if it's thirteen million
bucks to sign Cooper Cup for a year, two year,
twenty six million dollar deal, let's say, I don't know
fifteen whatever, that is that a turnoff? Is that a
turn on? Is that Okay, is it not? Okay, Hawks
have money to spend, that should not be a problem
for them. I think Cooper Cup would be going to
(07:00):
amazing addition to the Seahawks offense, way more than Marcus
Valdez Scandling obviously. I mean, when Cooper Cup is healthy,
he's been extremely productive. His problem is he has been
banged up. He's missed the years with the football in
the last three seasons.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, I think the first number that comes on my
mind for him is probably ten. So that's not totally
out of the realm of possibility, especially if you add
I think with a contract for him, you need to
have incentives because if he catches ninety balls for eleven
hundred yards, which is not out of the realm of possibility,
if he's healthy, then he should be paid for that production.
But we should also get some protection as well in
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case he has forty catches and play seven games. Well,
the question is will there be a team out there
that is just going to pay him and not worry
about incentives, because you're saying if the Cowboys do that,
for example, then you're out right like if the Cowboys
just say, you know what, never mind the incentives we'll
just give you fourteen million.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Done, You're good to go.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, you'll have some incentives, but we're going to guarantee
you the majority of your contract. And you're asking the
Hawks not to do that. And I look, I would
you sign Cooper Cup and not throw the guy the ball?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So I he's not gonna open, I would feel well,
I think he's gonna get open.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I just the injuries are a concern.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, when you've missed seventeen games in three years,
you can't just dismiss that if you're if you're John Schneider.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I don't think his agent can either.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
No, I don't think Super Cups agent cannot go to
a team and say, my client has played nine, twelve
and twelve games in the last three give me what
a regular sixteen seventeen game wide receiver would make.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He just can't. There's no legs to stand on for
his agent.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, but all it takes is one All it takes
is one team to say okay, right, And if you
got a three or a fourteen bidding war going on,
and the Cowboys and Jerry Jones are dumb enough to
say all right, we'll give it to you, then you're fine.
I mean I would ask for that if I was
his agent, right. I mean, there's no agent worth his
salt that's going to start in a negotiation saying hey, look,
I know my guy's been banged up, so why don't
we focus on incentives.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I mean, that's not nobody's having that conversation.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They may not say yes, right, but he's starting it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Seahawks, the Charge Jurors,
whoever's looking for a wide receiver whatever, blah blah blah.
I mean, when you got all these teams involved, man,
I mean, look at some of the contracts that were
getting tossed around for some of these baseball players a
couple of years ago, right, I mean, look at what
Shaquille Griffin when the Jaguars signed him to that big, huge,
fat contract. Remember that, We're like, what are you doing that?
(09:17):
It's the Jaguars, They're dumb, and they just gave him
the money.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And look, alla x is one team.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Look at the will Free situation because apparently from what
we heard from John by the way, I thought it
was Friesshfferent. Anyway, regardless of the Guard. He went to the
Viking right. So apparently from what John Schneider said yesterday,
Minnesota said, nope, don't care about a physical, don't care about.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Checking out your injury. You know, come on in.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Teams are dumb in that regard, and teams could just say,
you know, say Cooper Cup, we don't care about anything.
Here's twenty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So teams are ridiculous in that regard, and you will
need if you want Cooper Cup, you're gonna have to
be a little ridiculous too.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You might have to be. It just depends on the market.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
If the market's ridiculous, then you got to ask yourself,
do I want to be ridiculous? And frankly, I mean again,
I would really like to have Cooper Cup here. I
would rather spend that money on the offensive line than
Cooper Cup. To be totally honest with you, and go
out and draft a wide receiver. But I don't know
if the Hawks are in love. There's a rumor that
maybe Tevin Jenkins is coming to town on Monday to
visit the Seahawks, So that's some good news there. Makai
Becton's still out there Brad Burry has he been released
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officially yet from Minnesota. I have not seen if he's
been let go or not. After they signed Ryan Kelly
in free agency. So there's going to be some players
that will come open, and it is smart for John
to not commit everything now because you never know what
this thing's going to look like in July in training camp,
when guys get hurt and they have to get released,
or you know, guys get cut because somebody else becomes available.
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But I just think that the Cooper Cup thing, to me,
you want to lose a DK Metcalf and replace him
at least for a year with a Cooper Cup who's
making at most maybe half at most half of what
DK Metcalf got from Pittsburgh. To me, that's a good investment.
That's a really good investment for John Schneider. You're not
committing long term, saving fifty percent off the top.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You're getting a veteran.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You're getting a guy that, obviously, when healthy, has been
very productive and the only concern has been the injury factor,
which is a concern.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, it's the link of the contract and how easy
it is to get out of because the one thing
you don't want to do is commit a lot of
money to a three year contract and by October of
this year you go, oh my god, this guy is
truly done washed.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right exactly, you cannot that that is which I don't
think that's the cap killer.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't think that's the case. One year deal.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You want to go fifteen million dollars and just say, hey,
play one year, let's see what you got.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Here's fifteen mil.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Then I'm much more okay with that, because you're only
hurting yourself this year.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Then well, look, I mean here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And I was just not with Surren in Kansas City,
you know, on his what's the thing they call it?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Is it the drill? The drill? Yeah, I mean it's insane.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I mean, Jackson, we should get me and Dick spend
more time on that radio station.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I swear.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It is unbelievable. I mean he had me. Did I
tell you about this? He had me on the day
after the Super Bowl when they lost to Philadelphia and
it was booked on Friday. I'm like, dude, what are
you doing. You're playing in the Super Bowl. I gotta
be honest with you, Siren. If the Hawks are playing
in the Super Bowl against the Broncos or whoever. I'm
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not calling you to come on the show Monday.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
The only host you having from another city is the
team you just played this under.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It was amazing. I mean, they give him credit. They
are committed to that bit. It is insane how committed
they are to that bit. But we're on today and
he's asking me about DK Metcalf, and I just said, look,
I don't think and this is nothing I haven't told
you guys on the air, and I know you agree
with this. I don't think this is the time and
place in the Seahawks history, with all the other issues
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they have to be paying a wide receiver thirty million
dollars a year. Come back to me in a year
from now, right, come back to me in two years
from now. If the offensive line gets redone and they
look phenomenal and they're freaking awesome and blah blah blah,
and there's some money and somebody comes available, Hey great.
I mean, it would have been awesome if DK Metcalf
had two more years left on his deal and not one.
That would have given the Hawks an extra year to
fix the line. But let's face it, ever since DK
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Metcalf has been here, They've been trying to fix the
offensive line and they haven't been able to do it,
So why would we believe anything would be different. But
the point that I brought up with him is that
it's not the right time. It's the right time for
a team like Kansas City to go get a DK
Metcalf or a Buffalo Bills to get a DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Not the Steelers. Not the Steelers, not at all.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I mean, dude, they're talking about now having to choose
between Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Did you read Florio's piece, He said the Seahawks. The
Seahawks knew what they were doing. They knew they were
getting back to They got Regina. He says, like, what
are the Steelers doing? They just got a Ferrari, a
wide receiver with nobody they know that that's.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Gonna throw to him. Well, here is one of the
concerns about Cooper Cup. I know we're kind of top
of cop in here bouncing around, but I'm looking at
Cooper Cup's game log and we'll eventually get somebody on
from LA and talk about this. Cooper Cup had three
games last year where he had over ten targets. It
was against the Seahawks, the Patriots, and it was against
Philadelphia eleven catches for a bucko four, six for a
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bucko six, eight for sixty and had I think three
touchdowns combined in those three games towards the end of
the year.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And I don't know if he was dealing with something.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
He may have had some kind of a foot injury
or a high ankle sprain he was dealing with.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I got no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He had nine targets combined in the last three games
that he played in the regular season for the Rams
for four catches, and then he sat out the last
game because everybody sat out the last game because it
was meaningless for LA. But down the stretch when they
were trying to kind of wrap this thing up, he
was a real non factor. And I'd love to know why.
(14:44):
I mean, look, you know, all the numbers say that
with Cooper Cup is healthy, he's been fined, but he's
been fining that system for Sean McVay and with Matt Stafford.
And how do we The question I have about Cooper
Cup is this, so we're going to break and discuss
this more next segment. How do we ma re up
the idea that we're drooling over ourselves when Clint Kubiak
(15:04):
and Sam Darnold say we're going to run the ball
a lot more and then go out and get fired
up about giving Cooper Cup fourteen million dollars and wanting
him to catch ninety balls one hundred and thirty targets.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, I can easily answer that you may do that,
and then I'll do it next.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We'll tease the audience Cliffhanger next on ninety three three KJAR.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Actually, the whole time we got to set the show up.
We got.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Jackson Bevans joining us at five. Sorry about that. He's
in for you today. We have a jumbo fun with
audio coming up at four o'clock on the radio program
A Little You make the Call at six, and then
Dan Bilsma, cracking head coach, was with us on Wednesday
game day against Montreal. We joked, if you win the
game today, you got to come back with us on Friday,
and they won the game.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So he's going to join us right before.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Face off tonight at around six fifteen before the Crack
and take on Utah coming up on ninety three three KJRFM. Well,
we are back with some breaking news on the radio station,
and I think very appropriate giving the conversation we were
just having last segment. By the way, yes, I and Rapaport,
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Tom Pelasero NFL network reporting wide receiver Cooper Cup expected
to sign with the Seattle Seahawks and likely to make
fifteen million dollars a year or more with the team.
Brand new weapon for Sam Donald, brand new weapon for
Clint Kubiak, the Yakama, Washington native and former Eastern Washington
(16:31):
Eagle who almost beat the Huskies by himself.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
By the way, yes, he.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is coming back to the state of Washington to be
a member of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And my reaction is I'm thrilled.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I mean, look, I know there's concerns about the money,
there's concerns about the injury. I was gonna have the
conversation with you heading into this segment about Hey, you
got offensive line needs you have to fill. How do
you do all this? Well, this is now on John
Schneider to figure out. I mean, if John Schneider is
going to go out and get Sam Donald and Cooper Cup,
he's got to give those guys time to operate. And
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that means fixing the offensive line right. That means making
sure that Sam Darnold is not under pressure, that he's
not under durest that Cooper Cupp has time to get downfield,
and using him in a unique way right to make
sure you take advantage of his skill set. But look,
I mean nothing's guaranteed, and everything comes with a small amount.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Of risk or a lot of risk, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
But overall, from a view from fifty thousand feet, I
am jacked up that Cooper Cupp is a Seahawk. I
think this is awesome for them. He's been very productive
when he's been healthy. Yes he's been banged up. Yes
he's missed a bunch of games the last three years,
but when he's on the field, he is dynamite. Three
year deal, by the way for Cooper Cup is what
we're hearing. By the way now at the studio, Cooper
Cup is going to be a Seahawk.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Howbout that?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Well?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I think he's the perfect guy to have if you
don't have a very good offensive line, right because his
average depth of target last year was just seven and
a half yards. I mean he gets into the secondary
quickly and you throw short routes to him. So when
you do struggle at the offensive line, you don't don't
want guys that you got to hold the ball three banana,
four banana, five banana before you before you let go
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of it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And that's not how Cooper Cup plays.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And so he's actually kind of an extension of the
running game because people have said short passing game is
an extension of the running game. And he would be
perfect with these bootlegs that they're talking about, with these
play action strikes that they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I think it's a good fit for sel. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I still think you got to fix that line, Dick
to get the most I'm saying you don't.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Have to fix it.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I'm just saying he's the type of receiver that I
think is can nullify a bit of your line problems.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah maybe, I don't know. I mean, you could be right.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just think that if you want to get the
best out of these guys, and if you're paying Cooper
Cup and Sam Donald combined forty eight million dollars a
year now right between those two guys, whatever that number
is going to be, then I want the best out
of him, right, I don't want to just be okay
with those guys.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I mean, I look, I.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Mean this, these signings that the Seahawks have made, especially
Sam Donald and especially now Cooper Cup not so much
envy and not so much to Marcus Lawrence, but they
are important depth pieces.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
There's no question about that to me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
In this division, with what's happening in San Francisco, and
I think the Rams are a weaker football team without
Cooper Cup than with them. I think we should be
talking about winning the West, winning the NFC West.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I mean, they tied the Rams last year. That's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
They won ten games, and they tied the Rams with
Gino Smith and now they think.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They've upgraded at quarterback with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So you want to get the best out of these
guys and result in a division championship and host a
playoff game and win a playoff game for the first
time at home since twenty sixteen. You got to give
these guys as much of a chance as possible Dick
to get the best out of him, and that means
fixing that damn line. But Cooper Cup is this is
a great story for the Seahawks. It's a great story
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for him. It's a great story for the state of Washington.
This is a guy that wasn't even recruited out of
high school for crying out Loud, had to go to
Eastern Washington and prove his worth in FCS and now
we get to come back home and play for the
Seahawks making fifteen million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Good for him, man, No, absolutely, I mean did the
Rams get better this year? Did the Seahawks get better
this year? I mean the Rams picked up Davonte Adams.
I mean they traded out Cooper Cup for Davante Adams.
That's a significant upgrade. The question is, is the upgrade
from Gino Smith to Sam Donald greater then or less
then the upgrade from Cooper Cup to Devonte Adams?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Say that again?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Is the is the upgrade from Geno to Sam Darnold,
which everybody can speculate what that is. Is it greater
then or less then the upgrade from Cooper Cup to
Devonte Adams?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, I mean, look, there's a reason why these guys
obviously are available. I think a Cooper Cupp's situation, it
might just be because of the injury factor and the
fact that they might think that they did upgrade a
little bit with Devonte Adams. I just wonder, when both
guys are totally healthy and they're on, who the better
receiver is. And I think you can make an argument
that right now it's Cooper Cup if.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
They're both healthy, they're both healthy, and they're both on
for what.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That guy does.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And I thought they've put up a lot more thousand
yard seasons and a lot more ten touchdown seasons. I'm
talking about right now today. I mean, I totally agree
with that. I mean, overall, I think DeVante's had the
better career. I mean, look, if you look at Cooper
Cupp's career and you took and you take away Dick
that giant nineteen hundred yard season that he had three
or four years ago, there's not a lot around it.
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He only had one other thousand yard season and one
other ten touchdown season, and that was in twenty nineteen.
So if you want to debate and tell me that
DeVante Adams has had the better career, totally agree with
you one hundred percent. Not even worth fighting about who's
the better receiver right now to the Seahawks, and really
not even the conversation shouldn't even be DeVante versus Cooper.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The conversation should be Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
At fifteen million dollars a year or DK Metcalf at
thirty million dollars a year. That's what's a better fit
for the Seahawks. And it's a better fit for the
Seahawks I think if they go ahead and spend the
money wisely on the right freaking guys, that's the point. Hey,
look on the surface, you can have Cooper Cup for
fifteen million, or you can have DK Metcalf for thirty Okay,
give me Cooper Cup in the fifteen But what am
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I doing with the fifteen million dollars?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Just got word from Adam Schefter here that it is
a three year deal worth up to apparently forty five
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Okay, three years up to forty five How much guarantee?
Do you know how much guarantee? Yes? Okay, that's probably gonna
be somewhere in the half range.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Also, we'll tell you guys right now producing on the air.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
JB.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Long Rams play by play voice will be all with
us at four to ten today.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Great, awesome, very cool, love it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, twenty to twenty five you were bitching the air
day about me being not too not positive.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Today, I'm excited about piece.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I am really fired up for this, and I've been
talking about this for a couple of days now on
the air and on social media. Marquez Valdez Scanling, bless
his heart, I'm sorry, could not be your number two
wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He just couinked.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, Now he's in the right spot at number three
and maybe even number four. Right we'll see in the
verse ninety picks. We'll see what they do on draft ding.
No question, they get the kid from Iowa state that
you and I kind of have our eye on, which,
by the way, they could use that big body guy.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And they can also have they can do a slow
burn on the youngster too. If they draft a cup
wide receiver in the second round, they don't have to
throw them into the fire right away. They've got three
veterans that they can put in there right now.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Good for them, And look, I'll admit that there is
a part of it that, hey, he's from the state,
he went to Eastern he almost beat the Huskies by himself.
I mean, we're a little more familiar with him than
maybe a guy in New Orleans or Jack Chamville or whatever,
and you play him twice a year so we know
what he's all about. I mean, the guys, like in
your mind's eye, how many visions do you have in
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your minds? I have Cooper Cup dropping a football like
Nest year, right. I mean, he is just glue. It
feels like he's glue. And I'm sure that there's moments
where he had some you know, brain farts and things
like that. But no, I'm thrilled about this again, Chefter saying,
Cooper Cup in the Hawks three years, forty five million dollars.
Now we have to figure out how much money they
have left. And now we got to figure out how
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to fix that line to get the most out of
these guys and get that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Taken care of. Jabi Long you said, will join us
at fourten.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Lindsey Ferry, who covers the Rams and the Chargers down
there in LA. She's gonna hop on as well. Next
on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1 (24:27):
Action from Adams, puffs fires deep looking for Cooper Cup
Cup touchdown Eastern Washington, forty one yards.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Adams to Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Adams the quarterback empty backfield throws looking for Cooper Cup
touchdown Eastern Washington.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Vernon Adams this.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Second time he has found cup for a score. Today
for the sideline Cooper Cup dance his way toward the goal.
Lighties in cups third touchdown.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It sounds like roxy Bernstein by the way, fifty nine
fifty two final. Washington gets to win over Eastern Washington.
Cooper Cup. Eight catches one hundred and forty five yards
and three touchdowns that game. Another receiver you may know,
Kendrick Bourne in that game eight catches a buck fourteen
and Vernon Adams big old vern thirty one for forty
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six four to seventy five.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Seven touchdowns were against you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Very lucky to escape with our life with Sanler Miles
playing quarterback by the way that day well.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Joining us right now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
She covers the Rams, covers everything in LA for ESPN
LA and the NFL. Down there in Tinseltown. Our old
friend Lindsey Theory is with us on the show. Hey,
how are you?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
What's going on, talky? I was just thinking about you
the other day, and I promise you this is a
true story. I'm going to Malley on Sunday and one
of the best memories of Malley a senior glowing red
space there coincidentally a few years ago. Gosh, that was
a good time.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think that was the day you made out of
my turtle swim trunks, by the way, which I burned turtles.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Right, he had the shirt up with the Islands full
pers best versus Sky.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
There is so embarrassed that you called me out. I
threw that stuff in the trash can. Well, Cooper Cup
is a Seahawk. You've been covering him, you know what
the deal? Lizzie's missed a bunch of games the last
three years, but when he's healthy, he's been more than fine.
Tell us about Cooper Cup and what Seahawks fans are
getting in this guy.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean you guys know you've had to
face him twice a year every year since he was
drafted at twenty seventeen. And look, there's nothing to know
about Cooper Cup. I know he's been dealing with the injuries,
the last couple of years, he's dealt with a couple
of nagging ankle things coming in and out. But there's
a very motivated Cooper Cup coming to Seattle. This is
a guy who really thought he was going to finish
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his career here in La. Frankly, I thought he would
finish his career here in La knowing how much Seaman
Bay loved him and leaned on him throughout his young career.
But obviously Cooper Cups became available, it was a great
gap for the Seahawks. The biggest question is obviously just
the health. Can he stay healthy? I think he will
be able to do. He puts a lot of work into
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his body, has a very special diet. You're not going
to find someone that works harder than Cooper Cups. And
then on top of that, obviously you guys know the
kind of playmaker he is, whether the ball's in his
hands or not. So this is a really nice pickup
for the Seahawks. It's going to be a really nice
target for Sam Dartle's and I think Staffstan should be
pretty excited about.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
What he can do when he is healthy.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Lindsey, how is he a getting open compared to the
Cooper Cup of twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Yeah, just so he's lots of steps. I will have
to say he doesn't look quite like he doesn't have
quite the birth he used to. But it's not about him.
If he's like such a technician and he's so good
with his rous and he's so Chris that he finds
a way to make it happen. I don't know that
we saw the ball end up in his hands as
much recently because they had Cooper Nakula, who is just
kind of that step quicker than Cooper. Matthew Stafford was
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kind of looking for it on this first looks throughout
the last couple of seasons here. But I think Cooper
Cup is still very capable of getting open and he's
very capable of making guy's miss on the catch and
run opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
How much does he owe to Sean McVay Lindsey, I
mean clearly right, because you're taking this guy out of
his bosom. You're you're you're taking his binkie away, and
Matt Stafford and Sean McVay and that famous Rams offense
down there, and now I was coming up here to
play for Clint Kobiak that runs the outside zone. He's
playing for Sam Darnold's had one really good year in
his life. So how much is he kind of in
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debt to Sean McVay and how much of a concern
would that be bringing him out of that system.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Well, I think it's actually kind of goes both ways.
I think Cooper cups an in debt to Sean McVay
because Seann Vey knew exactly how to use him. But
Cooper Cuff's credit, I mean he brought a lot of
that guy will do anything that is asked him, I think,
regardless of the system. Right, he's a guy who's going
to block for his teammates. He's a guy that's going
to figure out a way to get open. And that's
(29:00):
a football mind that he is. Something David often talk
about how it's like another quarterback on the fields. Cooper
Cup is more than happy to bring his ideas, bring
you insight. He is such like a film junkie. He's
the first one, I know, listen, first one in the buildings.
He really is. Like him and Matthew Stafford had the
breakfast club. They're the first ones in the building. So
that's going to be Cooper Cup like, he will study
(29:22):
any offense and he will find a way to make
himself work in that system.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Lindsay, as you know, as everybody knows, we have a
terrible offensive line.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It is a work in progress. Way sorry, sorry for
the brick youtune.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I made a comment, and tell me if it's just
totally off base and totally nuts, because I say nuts
things all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I made a comment last second. I said, it seems like.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Cooper Cup is the type of receiver that could actually
help out a bad offensive line because most of his
targets correct me wrong if I'm wrong, or within ten
yards of the line of scrimmage, the quarterback is going
to get the ball out of his hands quickly to Cooper.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Yeah, you are correct. I mean, I don't know if
we can make up for a really bad office is one,
but he can help the situation. He like if he's
a kind of a catch your run guy, and he
will get there to a spot quick and Sam Darno
will be able to know it depends that he's going
to be exactly where he needs to be, and Samily
will get the ball on the hands very quickly, knowing
Cooper Cup is going to be exactly where where planned?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, Lindsay theory esp and l A is with us
a former Mariner ball girl, I believe as well.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I'm sorry, Rally Rally girl. It's been so long I
forgot what your actual job was. To be honest with you,
But now you're a mom? How many kids you got?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Now?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
By the way, I am the mom? Is that wild?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Crazy?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Two kids? And in fact I'm sitting in the Target
parking lot because I have a few last minutes things
to get to you a one year old birthday tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Oh you did?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Did you ever walk down and deliver the big turkey
leg for the King's Court too?
Speaker 8 (30:57):
No? The King's Court was after my time? That makes
me feel really old. But yeah, definitely I did deliver
Relly Prize Thoughes to Ken Grippy Jr.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
That a year ago.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That should be in your Twitter bio. Is your claim
to fame? But how much weaker are the Rams today?
I mean, we know they got Davonte. Obviously, they tied
with the Seahawks a year ago. They won the tiebreakers,
so they won the West. Do you feel like the
the the gap, whatever the gap was between the Rams
and Seahawks a month ago is now closing. Is it
the same, is it getting bigger? How do you kind
(31:29):
of uh, you know, dice that down.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
I mean, don't choose the messenger here, but I think
it actually got a little bit wider. The Rams, you know,
getting Davante Adams. I really think he is going to
be a great piece for them in his ability as
just a bigger target for Matthew Stafford. I was obviously
at the game in Philadelphia. They lost but one play,
and they were on the wad of enery championship if
(31:53):
it were not for one play there at the end
and the snow and all the things. But I think
that the Rams definitely gotch stronger. That young defensive front
they have. I certainly want to want to face them.
That's that's a really solid group that the little lead
to get better. They had a couple of rookies up
there this year, so uh, you know, kind of like
the bigger picture looking at the NFC West this year,
I would pick the Rams, uh, And then I easily
(32:16):
go with the Seahawks. The Cardinals are hard to trust
at any point. And then the forty nine ers right
now just seem to be a little bit of everywhere
and nowhere at the same time, so I think it
will have been close between the Rams and the Seahawks.
But I definitely have to give the nod to the
Rams and what they did by by going out and
getting DeVante Adams. The big walls were Cooper Cup, but
(32:37):
Cook and a Coup really kind of led the way
for them last year, so I don't know that they're
going to miss Cooper hard to say that that much.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
DeVante also, well, clearly you don't know what the hell
you're talking about, So that's fine.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Nobody's perfect. I'm kidding you.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Hey, listen, we love you, congrats on everything you're doing
down there in LA and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
All right, Thank you, Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Lindsay's theory with us, ESP and LA on the coup
Cooper Cup signing. The Seahawks again have not announced this,
but multiple reports including your Buddy Chefty three years, forty
five million dollars for Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
To the Seahawks, and Cooper Cup has now confirmed it
himself at social media with a special graphics saying time.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
When do you get him on the air?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I think a real producer would have him booked by
five o'clock tonight for the show five hundred dollars bounty.
By the way, you get Cooper Cup on the show
by seven o'clock tonight, five hundred dollars bounty paid by
Dick Vane.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
How about this free.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Agent class by John Schneier, the guy that hates free agents, right,
the guy that never wants to spend in free agency,
and he is spending a lot of money this offset.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Well, the question is are they getting the right guys?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I mean, if you're going to be the skeptic and
just kind of take that side for a second, you
are signing two guys that were banged up a year ago,
and DeMarcus Lawrence and Cooper Cup. You're signing two guys
in their thirties and DeMarcus Lawrence and Cooper Cup. And
you're signing a quarterback to a thirty three million dollar
a year deal, replacing Geno Smith with him who's had
one really good year in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I mean again, I like everything they've done. I'm way
more excited about the Cooper Cup signing that I am.
The Marcus Valdez Scandling and DeMarcus Lawrence signings to be
totally honest with you. I realize the Seahawks need depth
and rotational depth on their defensive line and all that
stuff is important, but you're gonna get rid of these guys.
You're gonna get rid of players like Gino and like
(34:21):
DK Metcalf and let Tyler Lockett walk you better, Dan
Well replace them, and they're replacing them. They're working on
replacing them. Now, fix the line, and let's really start
going nuts. Okay, let's see these guys really dive in
to get this offensive line back, and let's really start believing, Dick,
that these guys could be a real factor in the
NFC West next season and maybe even do bigger things
(34:42):
than just that we're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
JB.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Long is the voice of the Rams. He'll join us
coming up. Hugh Millen gonna hop on as well, give
us his thoughts on this at four point thirty on
ninety three to three KJARFM.
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