April 30, 2026 • 41 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain and Jackson Felts discuss the ongoing situation with the sale of the Seahawks including reported potential owners and some interested parties and how we feel about the names of Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg, then Dylan Byers from Puck joins the show to talk about the Seahawks sale candidates.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go Johnny Canzano, Johnny Cans will join us
at four o'clock and talk a lot about what's going
on down there in Portland with the new.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Owner of the Blazers.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
People might be asking, why do we care about who
the new owner of the Blazers is.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, the new owner.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Of the Blazers was approved by the old owner of
the Blazers, who happens to be the current owner of
the Seattle Seahawks. Man, So what does that say about
who the Allen of State would potentially sell the Seahawks to.
If anything, there's dueling reports out there right now, by
the way, about the guy that runs Apple and the
guy that runs Facebook, Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg rumored
(00:41):
to be involved in bids to buy the Seahawks. There's
also another guy, Dylan Buyers, who is on multiple occasions
now on social media today tried to shoot that down
say it's not true. Those guys aren't involved. So we
can talk to John about that. There's a lot going
on down there. I want to know, Like you and
I talked about yesterday or was it two days ago, yesterday, whatever,
(01:03):
it doesn't really matter. On the air, we're talking about
How does the process work when the Allen estate approves
the new owner, which I like to call a steward,
by the way, when they approve the new steward of
the Seattle Seahawks franchise, what does that process look like.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Is there a committee?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Is there one person that's got more of a voice
than somebody else.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Is it NFL controlled and not really controlled by Allen
at all?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It makes the call?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You make the call, Who makes the call on who
gets to purchase the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
If there's multiple.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Bids, you make the call. Who gets to decide? So
I mean, look, I want to know all this stuff.
So we'll talk to Johnny for Brett Boom will join
us at five o'clock today. Obviously we're getting ready for
the weekend. Are you guys going Saturday to Randy's thing?
By the way, Randy Johnson, I'm looking to you. Well
Venue Kings dot com. I'll just tell you this that
Venu Kings dot com last time I look, you get
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the door for like thirty bucks for the game on Saturday,
and they actually had tickets behind home play for under
one hundred dollars, by the way, for the big unit
ceremony and those are the prices you pay. There's no
fees anymore, so check it out. You just go softy
venue kings dot com. So we got that going on obviously,
the Marions and Kansas City. I want to start off though,
because I'm really curious about the reaction from the audience
(02:19):
and from all of us obviously on what we would
feel like. And this is gonna this conversation. I want
to kind of transition into the lifting in a second.
But the report came out today that Tim Cook and
Mark Zuckerberg were rumored to be interested in putting a
bid together by the Seahawks, and some of the responses
(02:40):
that you would see right on social media, We're like, well,
it's true of those guys. I don't want those guys
buying the Seahawks. Okay, whether you don't like Facebook, you know,
like Apple for what are we you know, like their politics,
you don't like the way that they treat customers, or
a million reasons why somebody would not like a CEO
of a major, major company that brings in a zillion
(03:01):
dollars a year. Okay, So I'm curious to get the
thoughts from our audience on that at four nine, four
five one, and then go round the room and get
your guys take on that as well. What the reaction
would be here if Tim Cook of Apple put together
a group to buy the Seahawks, or Mark Zuckerberg, who
could buy the Seahawks tomorrow with the change in his
couch cushions. By the way, he's that rich. You guys
(03:24):
know that obviously, and then transition that into a live
conversation because I heard Ian Ferness on the air today,
and if I'm putting words in.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
His mouth, I apologize.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There's a chance I am, But what is going on exactly?
But that's fun, that's fun to do with anders, right,
So I thought I heard you and say that the
PGA tour should not take back the guys that left
for Live. And he said that the guys that went
to Live took blood money from the Saudi's. He had
his thoughts on that. I don't agree with that, but whatever,
(03:55):
that's fine. You want to believe that that's more than
your prerogative. And then how would we feel about that
if those guys came back from Live, like Bryce and Dschambeau,
like John Rahm, if they came back to the PGA tour.
Would we be okay with that? Or should they be
punished for leaving to go work for the Saudis? So
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where do we sit on all this stuff? Are starting
with the Seahawks?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
For me? I mean, I really don't care what people's
politics are.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I really don't.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, I stay so far away from that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It it just you.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You want to believe, you want your political persuasion to
be whatever it is. I'm not gonna judge you for that,
whether you're super far left wing, super far right wing UBU.
And I just want a great owner of the Seattle
Seahawks exactly. And I'm not gonna be on social media.
I can't believe Mark Zuckerberg believes in this or has
this political slant. And Tim Cook it's football man. Is
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he gonna be a good owner or a bad owner?
And those two guys, especially Zuckerberg, building something. Building a multi, multi, multi,
almost trillion dollar industry out of nothing is a pretty
good resume to be an owner of a football team.
I would rather have somebody like that versus somebody that
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just got their daddy's football team and doesn't know how
to do anything with anything. Because we know there are
people out there, the trust fund babies that don't not
know how to do anything. They're thirty five years old
and never done anything in their life, and now they're
the owner of a football team.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
J Mersey, I'd rather have a Mark Zuckerberg than those
type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
There's a big button this conversation, and that's how much
are these guys going to actually have their hands in
the operations of the team directly? Because right, because, I
mean the reality is none of us know Mark Zuckerberg
personally obviously, is he the type of personality who's going
to want to come in and get his hands dirty
and actually want to be part of the operations? Well,
(05:57):
considering he deals with meta and deals with everything else
you think nor but you never know, right, I mean
the interesting things. Sofa, you bring up a great point,
which is how do we feel about people who have
backgrounds in some areas?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I mean the whole Saudi thing.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There's so many soccer clubs around the world, specifically in
English Premier League, but so many other soccer teams who
are pretty much just paid entirely through oil money.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Their owners are.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
These big oil type coon people, right, And the entire
teams where there aren't salary caps or in the APL
you just spend, spend, and spend some more. Man c
gets the first trouble in long time because their entire
team is oil money purchased.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
A lot of people.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Are angry about that in England that hey, you won
three three titles unfairly because your entire team is over
you know, just purchase money, money, money, money, money, and
it's oil money. That's not what the values we stand for.
It's kind of a crossroads globally in the soccer world
of is your team spending a lot because you make
money from oil or is your team spending a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Of money just because that's just your owner.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well yeah, but like what if they just spent money
because the owner was a rich man like the Dodgers
for example. Right, So you're okay with spending a lot
of money as long as it's the right money.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Did they get it legally? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Did they earn this money legally and and they spent
the money through the right place.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
To earn the money legally, then what's the problem? Guys?
Here's I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And again, I I think your take is great, Dick.
I agree with it entirely. Which is going to make
this conversation boring. I mean, I wish I just did
not agree with you so we could have some fun.
And I kind of think I agree with you on
the left. We haven't done the lifting, but we do.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Here's the thing. And look, if you feel differently, then great,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Whatever. Like, we don't need to agree on this, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, if they're Seahawks fans out there that don't
like the idea of Mark Zupper Zuckerberg or Tim Cook
owning the Seahawks for whatever reason, good for you. That's awesome.
You can have that opinion. You have yours, I'll have mine.
Let's go grab a cocktail, right whatever, So I don't
give a damn.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
But if we're talking about fifty to one hundred billionaires,
which is what we're talking about right here, yes, everybody
can easily go on the Google machine and find out
how they made their money, and everybody gets they wanted to, right,
could find something they detest about that person. Well, here's
the thing about it, whether you choose to do that.
Here's the thing about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't know, honestly, if the Seahawks' success over the
last thirty years is because of the fact that Paul
Allen was the richest owner in the NFL, or because
of the fact that Paul Allen actually knew how to
run a business the right way. Because there's a salary
cap in the NFL, there's only so much money you
can spend in the NFL. You can go above it
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and pay the price next year. You can buy training facilities,
you can buy a plane, you can locker room whatever.
You can have a top notch cater chef in your
locker room. You guys, get the point, right, There's things
you can do on top of that to make the
team attract. But I I really think that in my opinion,
and I'm not saying it's that unfair, but to just
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say that the Seahawks won because Paul Allen's rich, I
think is ludicrous. He hired the right hire the right people,
and got out of the way he wanted to go out.
And this is where maybe the money does play a
little bit of a role, and that he could go
get Mike Holmgrin, he could go get Pete Carroll, he
could go get Todd Laiwiki, he could go get John Schneider.
And then when everybody wanted to grab him, so that
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that that is, you know, there is a money aspect there,
but the fact that he hired the people, he was
smart enough to know what he didn't know. And that's
all I want out of a new owner, because guys,
I think we can assume for the most part, whoever
buys the Seahawks is going to have a buttload of money.
They're going to be rich, wealthy beyond belief. Now, unless
they're cheap like this guy in Portland apparently is cheap,
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this Condon guy. And we'll talk to Johnny Canzano about
that at four o'clock. It really is not for me
going to come down to how much money to these
peop people have. It's gonna be what kind of bosses
are they? What kind of people are they?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Do?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They want to get the right people in place and
give the team the best chance to win by hiring
the best people for the jobs that it takes to win. Coaching,
general managers, scouts, cat people, right, things like that. So
and for thirty years, the Allen family has done that job,
I think better than anybody. So I'm kind of with
(10:27):
you on this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean, especially in this situation because the Seahawks are
at the top of the heap, right, I mean, most
teams don't get sold after winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So then the question becomes, do we want an owner
who has a bunch of other things going on, like
a Zuckerberger, like a cook who clearly.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Have all alan a ton going on, exactly tons, and
that's why Paul Allen could step away. Or do you
want an owner like Mark Cuban who it's his one
and only I mean not one only thing, but that
is his number one passion.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
He's a court side every game. The owner would be
in the do we want overly involved with No? The
question is what's that line.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I just don't want an owner on draft day sitting
in a draft room telling John Schneider who to draft
the Cleveland Brown Rice draft. That's what we're talking about.
We don't want that guy who doesn't know what the
hell he's talking about. So that's the point. Hire the
right people to do those jobs. And you know again,
I just look, guys. I mean, first of all, even
if they are sold to the backtrack, we have no
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control over at number one. As you guys know, I
don't know if you're aware of that, but we don't
have any votes on right or not in the room.
We should have a vote, but we don't. So who
buys the NFL? Who buys the Seahawks. You want to
disagree with the owner of the team and his or
her politics or whatever, that's fine, but that shouldn't preclude
you from rooting for them. I mean, it's like, you know,
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I heard I heard i En today talking about the
lift thing and all that, and he just got me
thinking that. You know, there's a lot of people that
probably work for a lot of companies out there, including
this one, and maybe they don't agree with everything that
their corporation does. I guarantee you there's people that work
for Amazon and Google, Microsoft whoever, of course, that don't
agree with everything their corporation stands for. But it's the job,
(12:09):
and it's okay to disagree. Even with your superiors, you
can disagree. I mean, it's like remember the thing in
Katar when they were building all the World Cup stadiums.
Jackson and other workers were dying. Remember that story. You
know who has an office in Katar? iHeartMedia, Okay, So
I mean whatever, It's like, hey man, when you're that
big and when you employ that many people, you're bound
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to not agree with everything your company is all about.
And that's okay, that's fine. So just because the Seahawks,
in my opinion, are purchased by somebody you don't like politically, morally, ethically,
doesn't mean you can't start, you know, rooting for a
different football team or stop rooting for the Seahawks. So,
I mean, I just I this this idea that we
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have to live in this world where every dollar we spend,
every penny we invest, has to go to somebody that
aligned with one thousand percent on everything. First of all,
it's not realistic. And number two, it's ridiculous. It's insane,
exactly insane. I mean, guys, like with the lift things,
there's thousands of companies in this country that do work
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with Saudi Arabis.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Can I make the easiest prediction ever, no matter who
the new owner of the Seahawks will becoming a year
or two years from now, Yes, there will be protests
about something involved, of course, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And you know what, if you want to protest, that's fine,
that's fine. But this idea that well, it better be
somebody that I align with. I mean, look, I don't
go down that road unless it's like an obviously like
ridiculous road.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, like the extreme, I don't go down that road.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But the lift thing And just you know, Dick, the
reason why brought it up because I heard I Hearady
in driving in today say that the guys that went
from the PGA tour to live took blood money from
the Saudi Arabians. And he's got to write to his opinion.
He wants to believe that that's fine. He's not alone.
There's a lot of people that have said stuff like that,
and I would just say this, I think that there
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is a lot of selective outrage out there about stuff.
There's a lot of companies, as we said, that do
business in Saudi Arabia. I don't think we're really you know,
before we go to a hotel or an entertainment venue
or a restaurant or jump on an airline, we all
doing our homework to make sure they're owned by somebody
that we align with politically. No, that's not realistic, and
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it's insane to think people need to do that in
their daily lives. And again, just because you're enjoying a
stake or you're going to a movie or watching a
concert or boarding a plane.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know, you can disagree with that corporation's values. That's fine,
there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But guys, I just think that in the end, all
of this stuff is all about one thing. It's just
about what's best for you and what's best for us.
And what's best for me when it comes to the Seahawks,
and what's best for me when it comes to the
PGA Tour is getting the best players in the world
playing to either again, getting them all back from living.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like Ian was talking about, should they come back? Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Absolutely, they should come to Absolutely the ones that belong
on the PGA Tour, Yes, they should come back.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I mean, are we really talking about a lifetime ban
here for those people? I mean, there's ways to get
back in. What they did with brooks Kepka was genius.
What Brian Role at the new PGA Tour Commissioner did.
What they did brooks Kepka was my genius.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They made him.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
They made him pay a five million donation to charity. Okay,
they made him forfeit the next five years of pg
tour equity because in the last agreement with the players,
the players get a piece of the pie. Now brooks
Kepka gets nothing for five seasons and he's excluded from
this year's FedEx Cup money, so he can't win the
FedEx Cup, which is another twenty million dollars that he
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could potentially win, right, I mean, that's a that's a
lot of hits to get back in for Brooks. Kept
guink you do the same thing with the elite of
the elite that are in live bryceon. Those guys can
definitely those guys can definitely have it, and then with
the other guys and we can talk about this when
we have more time with the other guys. I think
there are also other avenues to get them back in
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as well.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And you know what, if you need that that five
million bucks, that's fine. I don't even need that. I
was like, dude, they're professional athletes. This is the greatest
golfers in the world. Bring them back, put them on
the tour. If if the goal is to get the
best players in the world playing together and it makes
the PGA Tour better and it makes the ratings go
up and it makes my interest in the tournament increase,
then bring them back.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean, guys, can you imagine like back in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
They got a list here, Steve Young, Reggie White, Herschel Walker,
Doug Flute, Jim Kelly. You know what they all did
play for the USFL. Can you imagine if the NFL said, no,
we don't want you. I'm how ridiculous is that, No,
we don't want you because you went to a rival league.
You had the goal to go play for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Owned by our president.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Exactly what did he own a team by the owned team?
He was already tried to buy a team something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But the point is is that can you imagine if
the NFL had said those guys can't return, They can't
come back because they played in the USFL. Guys, these
players are just trying to, you know, make the best
living they can. Obviously, their best living looks different than
our best living. I understand that. But everybody is ultimately
trying to do the same thing, maybe on a different level,
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and that's make as much money as possible to make the.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Best living they can make.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And they remember what Harold Varner said, Look, this is
generational money that they never ever would have made on
the PGA tour.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh, we've talked about this I would have done in
a second.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I was gonna ask you, like Jackson, if Manchester City
called you Newcastle, we want you to be our new
radio voice. I'm gonna pay you ten million pounds a year,
see you later. You're out the door.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Everybody has a price.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What if?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
What if the PIF would be started a American podcast
sports network and said we're gonna take one notable influencer
from each major market. We're gonna pay that guy five
million bucks. And they called me, or they called you,
or they called it internash, or they called you Jackson.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You're out. See you're out.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I will do anything, except if it's for the Pearland.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Timbers, yea, the New Jersey General. There you go.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, we're gonna break more to come on ninety three
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Speaker 6 (18:17):
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 1 (18:27):
All right, we're back kind of busy Thursday right here
on ninety three three kjr FM. The live golf uh
Tim Cook Mark Zuckerberg debate is raging like a wildfire
on the text line four nine four five one Social
media pitting Seattleite against seat.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm sure everyone's calm on the not really, that's okay.
Whatever you want to flip out and flip out.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean, you know, if you feel like that's where
you want to spend your energy, then go for it.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
A couple of people texted in and said, well, what
about your hate for Starbucks? Yeah, well he screwed us, right, and.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We've seen what kind of owner Howard Schultz is.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like a guy wrote in, you know, how would you
feel about Howard Schultz owning the Seahawks? I would not
feel good because of what he did to the Sonics.
I mean, is that all you got to know? Like,
there's no history as sports owners with Zuckerberg and Tim Cook,
but there is with Howard as It didn't go well
at all.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And he showed you what type of owner he is.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He's gonna he's gonna sell out whenever the times get tough.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do you want a guy or a gal to own
the Seahawks who has proven that he is willing to
sell a public trust to somebody he knows will move it.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
No? No, no answer is no. That would be my
first look. When I asked Claude about his resume.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, no, no, I mean, guys, because that's part of this, right,
I mean, honestly, it is part of it, like when
you have another owner. And like I said earlier, I
want to make this crystal clear, none of us have
a vote.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We should, but we don't.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
This is why I want to have John Gonzano on
at four o'clock today and ask him how much vetting
this new owner will the Allen of State do in
regards to what kind of stewards they'll be, Because if
you sell to the wrong person, like when the north
Strom sold to Ken Bhring and when Howard Schultz sold
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to Clayton Bennett, it almost cost us our football team,
and it cost us our basketball team.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Right, So if I am baseball team with Smollion, that's right,
I am getting out.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You're exactly right, Dick, it almost cost us our baseball
team too.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I am getting out.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And I want to make sure that whoever buys the team,
if they ever sell the team, wants to leave it here.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And I'm gonna look that guy or gallon the eye
and I want to read.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Him up and down like a book, and I want
to find out what kind of person they are because
I'm not selling this thing to you if in twenty
years from now you're gonna flip out and give it
to a guy from Florida, and.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You kind of just hit the nail on the head,
which is we need to know about who this person
is buying this yous personally. Are they somebody who has
ties to another place that does not have a football
team that they may want to move it to. Does
this person have a interest in getting hands on and
have a background with a company or background with wherever
their business is in coming in and getting their hands
(21:14):
in the mud and changing culture of places. I think,
I mean, really, what we can do is, guys, we
can kind of build a wish list of the priorities
whoever owns the Seahawks, we need, X, y Z, and
just go down the list and start building out because
I think I think the great question the first two
things are that they won't move the team and that
they'll let John and Mike cook.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know what, that's actually a great point.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If you were on the committee to decide who was
going to buy the Seahawks, that there are multiple bids,
what are the three questions that you'd want to know
the answer to right.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah, I would say where are you from? We can
automatically know just that does that place have an NFL team?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And then what's your history in your business with with
I guess how impactful you are.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
In the day to day?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Right, person have a desire to have a team in
his or her hometown?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And how many companies have you sold?
Speaker 7 (22:05):
To make a quick bucket your question though, because you
can ask him and you can say, like, oh, let's
say you're from Let's just use this example because simply
they don't have an NFL team.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Oklahoma City business owner from Oklahoma City. Yeah, so you
know you're from Oklahoma City. Yeah, but I have no
interest in moving an NFL team there?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sure? Whyre?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I mean like maybe they don't.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Maybe they don't, right, but you want to find that out.
I mean, it's like the Clay Bennett thing.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
And the reason why I'd be obviously against Howard Schultz
is because he screwed us once already.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't trust the guy, and.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He sold the team to a dude who wasn't hiding
from the fact at all that he wanted to have
a team in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He put the freaking Hornets housed him after the hurricane.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oklahoma City after the hurricane, and they got great crowds.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He saw what Oklahoma City could be.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He was a minority owner in the Spurs, and he
saw what Oklahoma City can be. And look, he lied
about it when he came here. We all knew he
was lying. But everybody knew that Clayton Bennett had a
desire to have a team in Oklahoma, and that son.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Of a bitch sold to him.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So screw him, right, I mean that that's where the
disdain for Howard Schultz comes from. I don't blame Howard
Schultz for selling the basketball team if he couldn't handle it,
Dick and wanted to get out. Okay, fine, but can
you at least do us a favor and give it
to somebody who you know is not going to move it.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
This is interesting, guys, because I get through the the
the counter report about Tim Cook not actually being a
potential own.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, from Dylan Buyer's right.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Tim Cook is from Mobile, Mobile, Alabama. He went to
Auburn University. He has lots of roots in Alabama, Alabama
heavy football community.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
They don't have an NFL team. He's still worries me. Yeah,
they may not be able to football team. Yeah, they
may not be able to afford it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's not a city in Alabama big enough for an everything.
Your point, I understand your point.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean we're we're we're talking in general terms, right,
We're not talking you know, literal here in some ways.
I mean, Dick's right, You're right, you know whatever. I mean,
there's certain cities that I'd be concerned about, and there's
certain cities I would not be concerned about. Like, for example,
let's say a baseball team got sold tomorrow to a
guy who's from Portland. Okay, that's a problem. Yes, Portland
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wants a baseball team badly, all right, Salt Lake City.
Let's say there was an NBA basketball team that gets
sold tomorrow to a dude from Seattle.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Okay, oh right, I mean guys.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Hello, So there there are cities that you probably should
rank above others as far as concerns. But I just
think the general idea. I just want people. I know,
I am. I'm really as invested as I can be.
There's only so much we can invest in this. We
can't invest anything financially, obviously, but emotionally, time wise, we
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can invest as much as we want in who the
new owner of the Seahawks is going to be and
finding out what the process is all about, and talking
about the process on the year and guys, this is
actually a great time of the year for this to happen.
It's the summer, there's no football until preseason. You got
the Mariners, obviously, you got the NBA going on. But
this feels like, doesn't it, Guys a good time of
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the year to devote a lot of time to making
this a big topic that people are aware of. And
if it can even one iota influence somebody of power
with the Allen Foundation to make sure that they really
think about who buys this team, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
What is the general take on the text line that's
negative about either Cook or Oh? I mean, I mean,
I'm sorry. I don't follow the politics of Tim Cook.
I don't follow the politics of Facebook.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I mean, I just one guy says he's got a
program that tracks us and spies on us. Okay, A
plant a lot of a lot of oil money here
coming out of that stuff. Human rights issues with with
with Apple, Facebook employee relations issues. I mean, there's stuff
like that that will come up. Let me on the
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text line.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I did want to share.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I'm going to credit this person on my Twitter because
I when when we saw the Zuckerberg news, I posted
a gift from the social network of somebody destroying Zuckerberg's computer.
Matthew Munt, who who interacts with all of us on Twitter,
says we don't need Tim Cook. I don't want a
team who's behind by the league by five years and
announces moves as innovation. That's an Apple Samsung joke for you, right,
(26:45):
got you?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Got you?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
So you're saying that Samsung is a superior product to
Apple by far, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean, I have an iPhone and I enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Whatever, But no, I think that Matthew's making it to
Actually a good point is like Tim Cook runs and
has run an organization that comes out with sorry iPhone users,
this is just the truth, comes out with technology and says.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We introducing a new technology. Great Galaxies did it five
years after?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well then don't they get sued for for I think
they do?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
They do?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
They do, and that's why Alcoa had to go and
change their messaging system.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So let's say, let's say and we're kind of veering
off here. But let's say that I let's say I
I I agree with all that. Okay, is Tim Cook
going to pay John Schneider what it takes to keep
monus GM?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes? Then fine, that's the most important. And stay out
of their business whatever. I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
If you want to rip off other people's ideas, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't give a damn. Just pay John Schneider what
he's working.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That's what those ideas that you're ripping off some of
that money, and go pay job.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Stay out of their business, though, I guess, and I
don't know how interested the masses are in this.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They should be interested in big times, they should be Yeah,
I should be.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think intrigued.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think that, Yes, there are certain things that we
talked about that I think are important to vet out.
I'd like to know who's doing the vetting. Is the
NFL coming down with a short list and presenting it
to Jody Allen and say, okay, here's the people. Well,
here here are the groups that we have vetted and approved.
Now you get to pick. I mean, it is her
football team given to her by Paul Allen, so she
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should be able to pick, right.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean, I don't know how that works. That's the estate.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't have any idea. That's why we're getting John
on the air at four o'clock. That's what I want
to find out. I mean, this is the the Allen estate,
I believe is selling the assets of Paul Allen. They
are liquidating everything yachts, sports teams, museums. Right the what's
it called the the m pop? Is he still on that?
(28:49):
Does the Allen Foundation still on that thing? They're going
to sell that, right? I mean, everything's going every like
everything has to go to the studs and all of
it goes to charity. So whom makes the call? I
don't know, Well, I don't I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Mike Florio has talked about this a number of times,
and I am just glued to Pro Football talk whenever
he talks about this, because he's made it clear that
this is just simply about money and and the lawyers
involved and the selling for charity. It will be simply
who spends the most money. The caveat is the NFL
must approve that owner and it will take you. So
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that that's always the case, right, right, always has It's
not just going to be like who spends the most money.
It could be anybody globally. The NFL will make sure
to do their background. Yeah, and I don't know about you, guys.
I trust the NFL an organization that said Dan Snyder, no,
you must sell this team. The NFL has done pretty
good with understanding.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
They want this to keep it.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Keep in mind the NFL, and this is a long
time ago. They also were the ones that approved Ken
Baring as a buyer. They said, yes. I mean, the
point is they make mistakes and look, guys, honestly, I'm
not worried about the team moving at all. No, like
it's not even on my radar. What I'm worried about
is somebody not running it the right way and us
not winning games.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Because then you're stuck.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's what I'm wanting. You have a bad GM, you're
not stuck. If you have a bad quarterback, you're not stuck.
If you have a bad coach, you're not stuck. If
you had a bad owner, you're stuck. You were absolutely
stuck until they do something so stupid that they're forced
to sell the team, or they decide to sell the team.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And in certain look at the Cleveland Browns, look at
Panthers much they have down.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
There so many franchises out there that are just mired
in and mediocrity at best because they are poorly owned.
And the Seahawks could be that in the next five.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
With the wrong guy, they totally could be. I mean,
we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
We can't sit here and say the biggest reason why
the Hawks had success for thirty years is because of
Paul Allen and then not admit that the exact opposite
can have the exact opposite impact. Both things are possible,
and we just saw one of them for thirty years,
which was great. So how about we really try and
keep that train going. And let's not hire a bum
and a maniac and an ego and somebody who wants
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to stick his hand in the cookie jar when it
don't belong. There, a guy who thinks you know his
football when he doesn't. Look at Jerry Jones, for God's sakes,
are you a kidding me? I mean, Jerry john without
Super Bowl? I mean what if you what if this
team gets sold to an owner who says, I'm gonna
be the GM, I'm gonna do what Jerry did. Oh god,
I mean, it's happening right now, and It's been happening
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for thirty years in Dallas and nobody in the NFL
has done anything about it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
We honestly, they can't.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
We have to put our trust in the NFL owners
and Roger Goodell to say yes to the right person.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, but is it the trust? I need to know
the order.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Is it the NFL vetting handing it to Jody or
is it Jody Vetting handing it to the end.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
A committee that represents the foundation.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
That's right, we'll find out A four with John Gonzono
Fun with Audio next.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Now back to Softie and Dick Got your Home for
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Speaker 1 (32:01):
We're going to do a little shift here, a little
fun with Audio coming on five forty five tonight because
he is joining us right now.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
On the radio show.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
There's a story out there that Mark Zuckerberg and Tim
Cook of Apple and Facebook obviously you have interest in
buying the Seahawks. That has now been refuted by multiple people,
first by Dylan buyers from Puck and now from Bloomberg.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Dick Fainner also shooting down that story. So we thought
we'd put Dylan on the air and find out what
he knows.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Dylan don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
If you ever saw the movie My Cousin Vinnie, when
Joe Pesci calls Sheriff Farley to the stand and just says, so,
what do you know? So just tell us what do
you know about this? Zuckerberg and Tim Cook thing.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Well, first of all, pleasure to be on with you, softie,
And I'm from Seattle and I am a Seahawks fan,
so honor. Look here, I'm a bit out of my
jurisdiction here. I'm not a sports reporter. I don't usually
cover this beat. I am, however, your reporter, and have
relationships with some of the guys around both Tim Cook's
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CEO of Apple and Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta, And
the moment that this report came out, I thought, no
way this can be true. So I reached out to
both both parties and got a pretty swift response which
was just like, no, we're not interested. There might be
a scenario here where these guys have their investments in
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capital firms that might be interested. I'm thinking of a
firm like Iconic, which a lot of the big Silicon
Valley guys have their money in maybe they are taking
a look at what at most could be like a
ten percent stake in the Seahawks. But the notion that
either Zuckerberg or Cook are interested in this is just
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patently false. And in the hours since I put that
out into the world, of course, spokespeople for both men,
I believe, have come forward to Bloomberg and said as
much as well.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So where did this come from? Dylan? Is this?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Is just this imagined?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Or because they're potentially ties to this capital group, that
that's that's where they put the pieces together.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
I what I hear's what I would say, and I
don't I don't want to. I have been somewhat mystified
at the way that front off the sports. I know
a lot of folks run off the sports. I like them,
I know, I know their investment in their backers like
I like those guys too. I don't want to cast
dis versions or anything, but I would say, I think
what happened is they got some bad intel or some
(34:30):
bad rumors. Rumors, as you know, tend to fly around
the world of sports and just deal making more broadly,
and uh, I guess they didn't run it down I think.
I think what still mystifies me is why, even now
that the reporter of that piece has acknowledged that both
Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg's people are denying it, but
they still haven't changed the headline on the site.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, so, Dylan Buyer's again with us from puck Dot
News with us signed the year you mentioned kind of
venturing out of your your at your zone a little
bit here. But you cover the media world all that stuff,
and you know Apple, you know Meta, you know Google,
all that stuff. When you saw this story, you said,
your first response is there's no way that's true. What
is it about Tim Cook? What is it about Zuckerberg
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that led you to believe that?
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Sure? Well, one, I would say, I know these guys
a little bit, and Mark is like firmly involved with
running Meta. Has never expressed interest in owning a sports team.
It would be very out of character for him. Could
he afford to do so? I think his net worth
is somewhere in the realm of like three hundred and
fifty to four hundred billion dollars a moment, So the
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answer is sure he could. Tim Cook like can't. Tim
Cook's doesn't have the network to do it. Conceivably he
could be part of an investment group. But Tim, despite
getting ready to step down as CEO and take on
the chairman role at Apple, is also not a guy
who's expressed interests in sports ownership. I mean he's interested
in having, you know, Apple having media rights for F
one or mls like that, but that's just that's not
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his daily wick. And and also just to go about that,
you know, for either one of those guys, is something
that would have happened I think with a lot more
calculation and then ultimately a lot more discretion.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
So if it's not these guys, Dylan, who is it?
I mean, what type of person makes sense? I mean,
you're saving the business world. You're a Seahawk fan. I
can imagine you'll probably dip your toes into this area
here pretty soon, if you haven't already, I will.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
And look, there's a lot of interest here. I think
you get to a certain sort of stratosphere of wealth,
and you know, what is there to buy if not
an NFL or an NBA team. You certainly when you're
talking about the NFL, you guys know better than anyone
you are talking about thirty two people or family offices
who are part of one of the best best recurring
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revenue businesses in the world. So I get why people
would want this. I have to imagine it's an individual
like that. On the other hand, we start to see
more room open up for private equity to get into this.
You see Josh Harris and Apollo getting into owning the
Washington Commanders, So I certainly think there's a lot more
room for that. I don't deny that there will be
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a wealthy individual, perhaps one with name recognition, perhaps out
of Silicon Valley, right that comes forward here. It's just
not one of these two guys.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, no, I mean it's funny Dylan And again Dylan
buyers from Puck Dot News with us. So he was
the first to kind of refute this Front Office Sports
report that Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg were showing interest
in buying the Seahawks, and that's now been backed up
by the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Folks over at Bloomberg.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I mean, you know, my first name that I came
up with, not to buy the Seahawks per se, because
he's a Bay Area guy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Was a guy like a Larry Ellison who has.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Shown to have interest like he wanted to buy the
Golden State Warriors and he got shot down. Like you
know somebody like that from this area. I mean, Steve
Balmer's name comes up all the time. He owns the Clipperies,
he's got ties to Seattle. Well, you know, Bill Gates
is you know, a basketball fan per se, but who
knows what kind of moment in time in his life
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he's in when you think about, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Those types of people.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jeff Bezos, for example, tried to buy the freaking Commanders
for God's sakes, right, are we talking about people like
that that we should be talking about.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Yes, we are, we are. We are totally talking like
people about that. And by the way, I would not
look at someone with ties to Seattle. Certainly seems to
make a lot of sense. But we I think we've
reached a point where the value of these teams is
so high and it's such a limited limited inventory. When
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teams come on the market, that is, it does not
necessarily need to be someone who has Seattle or Pacific
Northwest ties, Right, I think you look at thirty two teams,
I haven't you know, unlike the Sonics coming back, I
haven't heard any talk of expansion in the NFL I
don't think that's happening. So when a team comes on
the market, anyone who even has a glimmer of an
(39:01):
interest and this is going to take a look. And
you're right, there are only so many people with the
kind of capitals that can make it happen.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, Dylan, great stuff, man. I appreciate this and we
will talk down the road.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Man. Thanks for jumping on in a pinch here man.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Dylan Buyers from puck Dot News again was the first
one to come out. There was a story that was
tweeted out reported earlier today by Front Office Sports that
Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook are each among the names
considering bids for the Seahawks, and Dylan quoted that said,
this just flat out is not true. And Bluemberg came
(39:35):
out and joined the chorus. So who knows. Right in
the end, you know what's going to happen. I could
see a cynic that just heard that entire conversation, a
skeptics saying, well, of course they're going to say no.
Of course they're going to deny that they have interest
in buying the Seahawks. They don't want their shareholders to know.
They don't want the employees to know. They don't want
their partners potentially to know that they're doing something like this.
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Brought up concrete reasons for sure about their personalities, all
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Tim Cook, I mean again, he's exactly right. You could
see him being part of a group to buy the Seahawks.
Maybe he buys a minority share, right, you never know.
Maybe he's the I mean, John Stanton doesn't own the
majority share of the Mariners, but he's the public facing
voice en franchise.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Larson ever like been a facing person.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
With the er.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I don't even know what Chris Larson's voice sounds like.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, I have no idea, right, I mean, people that
I talk to that know him say he's kind of
a quiet, kind of an awkward kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
He does what he does, and Stanton's the face. So
maybe you see Tim Cook doing something like that. Zuckerberg
if he did one day. Maybe maybe Zuckerberg is sitting
around California and he's thinking to himself, you know what,
I really wasn't planning on buying a football team, but
then I saw this tweet come out.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
That's a good idea. We all do that. The thing
about Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Is he's so young right that he literally twenty five
years from now could be like, now, I want to
buy a football team, only like sixty you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, he's uh, he's forty one years old.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
By the way, for forty one forty one years imagine
having an owner that's forty one years old of your
Seattle see forty one yard Well, I think there's an
angle on this from the local perspective, from the group
that's going to sell the Seahawks and the group that
just bought the Portland Trail Blazers, that should be of
massive interest to Seahawks fans. We're gonna kind of hit
(41:26):
on that angle a little bit with John Canzono next
on ninety three three KJRFM.
Where we go Johnny Canzano, Johnny Cans will join us
at four o'clock and talk a lot about what's going
on down there in Portland with the new.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Owner of the Blazers.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
People might be asking, why do we care about who
the new owner of the Blazers is.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, the new owner.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Of the Blazers was approved by the old owner of
the Blazers, who happens to be the current owner of
the Seattle Seahawks. Man, So what does that say about
who the Allen of State would potentially sell the Seahawks to.
If anything, there's dueling reports out there right now, by
the way, about the guy that runs Apple and the
guy that runs Facebook, Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg rumored
(00:41):
to be involved in bids to buy the Seahawks. There's
also another guy, Dylan Buyers, who is on multiple occasions
now on social media today tried to shoot that down
say it's not true. Those guys aren't involved. So we
can talk to John about that. There's a lot going
on down there. I want to know, Like you and
I talked about yesterday or was it two days ago, yesterday, whatever,
(01:03):
it doesn't really matter. On the air, we're talking about
How does the process work when the Allen estate approves
the new owner, which I like to call a steward,
by the way, when they approve the new steward of
the Seattle Seahawks franchise, what does that process look like.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Is there a committee?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Is there one person that's got more of a voice
than somebody else.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Is it NFL controlled and not really controlled by Allen
at all?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It makes the call?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You make the call, Who makes the call on who
gets to purchase the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
If there's multiple.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Bids, you make the call. Who gets to decide? So
I mean, look, I want to know all this stuff.
So we'll talk to Johnny for Brett Boom will join
us at five o'clock today. Obviously we're getting ready for
the weekend. Are you guys going Saturday to Randy's thing?
By the way, Randy Johnson, I'm looking to you. Well
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Venu Kings dot com last time I look, you get
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the door for like thirty bucks for the game on Saturday,
and they actually had tickets behind home play for under
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fees anymore, so check it out. You just go softy
venue kings dot com. So we got that going on obviously,
the Marions and Kansas City. I want to start off though,
because I'm really curious about the reaction from the audience
(02:19):
and from all of us obviously on what we would
feel like. And this is gonna this conversation. I want
to kind of transition into the lifting in a second.
But the report came out today that Tim Cook and
Mark Zuckerberg were rumored to be interested in putting a
bid together by the Seahawks, and some of the responses
(02:40):
that you would see right on social media, We're like, well,
it's true of those guys. I don't want those guys
buying the Seahawks. Okay, whether you don't like Facebook, you know,
like Apple for what are we you know, like their politics,
you don't like the way that they treat customers, or
a million reasons why somebody would not like a CEO
of a major, major company that brings in a zillion
(03:01):
dollars a year. Okay, So I'm curious to get the
thoughts from our audience on that at four nine, four
five one, and then go round the room and get
your guys take on that as well. What the reaction
would be here if Tim Cook of Apple put together
a group to buy the Seahawks, or Mark Zuckerberg, who
could buy the Seahawks tomorrow with the change in his
couch cushions. By the way, he's that rich. You guys
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know that obviously, and then transition that into a live
conversation because I heard Ian Ferness on the air today,
and if I'm putting words in.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
His mouth, I apologize.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There's a chance I am, But what is going on exactly?
But that's fun, that's fun to do with anders, right,
So I thought I heard you and say that the
PGA tour should not take back the guys that left
for Live. And he said that the guys that went
to Live took blood money from the Saudi's. He had
his thoughts on that. I don't agree with that, but whatever,
(03:55):
that's fine. You want to believe that that's more than
your prerogative. And then how would we feel about that
if those guys came back from Live, like Bryce and Dschambeau,
like John Rahm, if they came back to the PGA tour.
Would we be okay with that? Or should they be
punished for leaving to go work for the Saudis? So
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where do we sit on all this stuff? Are starting
with the Seahawks?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
For me? I mean, I really don't care what people's
politics are.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I really don't.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, I stay so far away from that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It it just you.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You want to believe, you want your political persuasion to
be whatever it is. I'm not gonna judge you for that,
whether you're super far left wing, super far right wing UBU.
And I just want a great owner of the Seattle
Seahawks exactly. And I'm not gonna be on social media.
I can't believe Mark Zuckerberg believes in this or has
this political slant. And Tim Cook it's football man. Is
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he gonna be a good owner or a bad owner?
And those two guys, especially Zuckerberg, building something. Building a multi, multi, multi,
almost trillion dollar industry out of nothing is a pretty
good resume to be an owner of a football team.
I would rather have somebody like that versus somebody that
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just got their daddy's football team and doesn't know how
to do anything with anything. Because we know there are
people out there, the trust fund babies that don't not
know how to do anything. They're thirty five years old
and never done anything in their life, and now they're
the owner of a football team.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
J Mersey, I'd rather have a Mark Zuckerberg than those
type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
There's a big button this conversation, and that's how much
are these guys going to actually have their hands in
the operations of the team directly? Because right, because, I
mean the reality is none of us know Mark Zuckerberg
personally obviously, is he the type of personality who's going
to want to come in and get his hands dirty
and actually want to be part of the operations? Well,
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considering he deals with meta and deals with everything else
you think nor but you never know, right, I mean
the interesting things. Sofa, you bring up a great point,
which is how do we feel about people who have
backgrounds in some areas?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I mean the whole Saudi thing.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There's so many soccer clubs around the world, specifically in
English Premier League, but so many other soccer teams who
are pretty much just paid entirely through oil money.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Their owners are.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
These big oil type coon people, right, And the entire
teams where there aren't salary caps or in the APL
you just spend, spend, and spend some more. Man c
gets the first trouble in long time because their entire
team is oil money purchased.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
A lot of people.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Are angry about that in England that hey, you won
three three titles unfairly because your entire team is over
you know, just purchase money, money, money, money, money, and
it's oil money. That's not what the values we stand for.
It's kind of a crossroads globally in the soccer world
of is your team spending a lot because you make
money from oil or is your team spending a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Of money just because that's just your owner.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well yeah, but like what if they just spent money
because the owner was a rich man like the Dodgers
for example. Right, So you're okay with spending a lot
of money as long as it's the right money.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Did they get it legally? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Did they earn this money legally and and they spent
the money through the right place.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
To earn the money legally, then what's the problem? Guys?
Here's I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And again, I I think your take is great, Dick.
I agree with it entirely. Which is going to make
this conversation boring. I mean, I wish I just did
not agree with you so we could have some fun.
And I kind of think I agree with you on
the left. We haven't done the lifting, but we do.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Here's the thing. And look, if you feel differently, then great,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Whatever. Like, we don't need to agree on this, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, if they're Seahawks fans out there that don't
like the idea of Mark Zupper Zuckerberg or Tim Cook
owning the Seahawks for whatever reason, good for you. That's awesome.
You can have that opinion. You have yours, I'll have mine.
Let's go grab a cocktail, right whatever, So I don't
give a damn.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
But if we're talking about fifty to one hundred billionaires,
which is what we're talking about right here, yes, everybody
can easily go on the Google machine and find out
how they made their money, and everybody gets they wanted to, right,
could find something they detest about that person. Well, here's
the thing about it, whether you choose to do that.
Here's the thing about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't know, honestly, if the Seahawks' success over the
last thirty years is because of the fact that Paul
Allen was the richest owner in the NFL, or because
of the fact that Paul Allen actually knew how to
run a business the right way. Because there's a salary
cap in the NFL, there's only so much money you
can spend in the NFL. You can go above it
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and pay the price next year. You can buy training facilities,
you can buy a plane, you can locker room whatever.
You can have a top notch cater chef in your
locker room. You guys, get the point, right, There's things
you can do on top of that to make the
team attract. But I I really think that in my opinion,
and I'm not saying it's that unfair, but to just
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say that the Seahawks won because Paul Allen's rich, I
think is ludicrous. He hired the right hire the right people,
and got out of the way he wanted to go out.
And this is where maybe the money does play a
little bit of a role, and that he could go
get Mike Holmgrin, he could go get Pete Carroll, he
could go get Todd Laiwiki, he could go get John Schneider.
And then when everybody wanted to grab him, so that
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that that is, you know, there is a money aspect there,
but the fact that he hired the people, he was
smart enough to know what he didn't know. And that's
all I want out of a new owner, because guys,
I think we can assume for the most part, whoever
buys the Seahawks is going to have a buttload of money.
They're going to be rich, wealthy beyond belief. Now, unless
they're cheap like this guy in Portland apparently is cheap,
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this Condon guy. And we'll talk to Johnny Canzano about
that at four o'clock. It really is not for me
going to come down to how much money to these
peop people have. It's gonna be what kind of bosses
are they? What kind of people are they?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Do?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They want to get the right people in place and
give the team the best chance to win by hiring
the best people for the jobs that it takes to win. Coaching,
general managers, scouts, cat people, right, things like that. So
and for thirty years, the Allen family has done that job,
I think better than anybody. So I'm kind of with
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you on this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean, especially in this situation because the Seahawks are
at the top of the heap, right, I mean, most
teams don't get sold after winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So then the question becomes, do we want an owner
who has a bunch of other things going on, like
a Zuckerberger, like a cook who clearly.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Have all alan a ton going on, exactly tons, and
that's why Paul Allen could step away. Or do you
want an owner like Mark Cuban who it's his one
and only I mean not one only thing, but that
is his number one passion.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
He's a court side every game. The owner would be
in the do we want overly involved with No? The
question is what's that line.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I just don't want an owner on draft day sitting
in a draft room telling John Schneider who to draft
the Cleveland Brown Rice draft. That's what we're talking about.
We don't want that guy who doesn't know what the
hell he's talking about. So that's the point. Hire the
right people to do those jobs. And you know again,
I just look, guys. I mean, first of all, even
if they are sold to the backtrack, we have no
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control over at number one. As you guys know, I
don't know if you're aware of that, but we don't
have any votes on right or not in the room.
We should have a vote, but we don't. So who
buys the NFL? Who buys the Seahawks. You want to
disagree with the owner of the team and his or
her politics or whatever, that's fine, but that shouldn't preclude
you from rooting for them. I mean, it's like, you know,
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I heard I heard i En today talking about the
lift thing and all that, and he just got me
thinking that. You know, there's a lot of people that
probably work for a lot of companies out there, including
this one, and maybe they don't agree with everything that
their corporation does. I guarantee you there's people that work
for Amazon and Google, Microsoft whoever, of course, that don't
agree with everything their corporation stands for. But it's the job,
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and it's okay to disagree. Even with your superiors, you
can disagree. I mean, it's like remember the thing in
Katar when they were building all the World Cup stadiums.
Jackson and other workers were dying. Remember that story. You
know who has an office in Katar? iHeartMedia, Okay, So
I mean whatever, It's like, hey man, when you're that
big and when you employ that many people, you're bound
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to not agree with everything your company is all about.
And that's okay, that's fine. So just because the Seahawks,
in my opinion, are purchased by somebody you don't like politically, morally, ethically,
doesn't mean you can't start, you know, rooting for a
different football team or stop rooting for the Seahawks. So,
I mean, I just I this this idea that we
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have to live in this world where every dollar we spend,
every penny we invest, has to go to somebody that
aligned with one thousand percent on everything. First of all,
it's not realistic. And number two, it's ridiculous. It's insane,
exactly insane. I mean, guys, like with the lift things,
there's thousands of companies in this country that do work
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with Saudi Arabis.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Can I make the easiest prediction ever, no matter who
the new owner of the Seahawks will becoming a year
or two years from now, Yes, there will be protests
about something involved, of course, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And you know what, if you want to protest, that's fine,
that's fine. But this idea that well, it better be
somebody that I align with. I mean, look, I don't
go down that road unless it's like an obviously like
ridiculous road.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, like the extreme, I don't go down that road.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But the lift thing And just you know, Dick, the
reason why brought it up because I heard I Hearady
in driving in today say that the guys that went
from the PGA tour to live took blood money from
the Saudi Arabians. And he's got to write to his opinion.
He wants to believe that that's fine. He's not alone.
There's a lot of people that have said stuff like that,
and I would just say this, I think that there
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is a lot of selective outrage out there about stuff.
There's a lot of companies, as we said, that do
business in Saudi Arabia. I don't think we're really you know,
before we go to a hotel or an entertainment venue
or a restaurant or jump on an airline, we all
doing our homework to make sure they're owned by somebody
that we align with politically. No, that's not realistic, and
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it's insane to think people need to do that in
their daily lives. And again, just because you're enjoying a
stake or you're going to a movie or watching a
concert or boarding a plane.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know, you can disagree with that corporation's values. That's fine,
there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But guys, I just think that in the end, all
of this stuff is all about one thing. It's just
about what's best for you and what's best for us.
And what's best for me when it comes to the Seahawks,
and what's best for me when it comes to the
PGA Tour is getting the best players in the world
playing to either again, getting them all back from living.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like Ian was talking about, should they come back? Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Absolutely, they should come to Absolutely the ones that belong
on the PGA Tour, Yes, they should come back.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I mean, are we really talking about a lifetime ban
here for those people? I mean, there's ways to get
back in. What they did with brooks Kepka was genius.
What Brian Role at the new PGA Tour Commissioner did.
What they did brooks Kepka was my genius.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They made him.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
They made him pay a five million donation to charity. Okay,
they made him forfeit the next five years of pg
tour equity because in the last agreement with the players,
the players get a piece of the pie. Now brooks
Kepka gets nothing for five seasons and he's excluded from
this year's FedEx Cup money, so he can't win the
FedEx Cup, which is another twenty million dollars that he
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could potentially win, right, I mean, that's a that's a
lot of hits to get back in for Brooks. Kept
guink you do the same thing with the elite of
the elite that are in live bryceon. Those guys can
definitely those guys can definitely have it, and then with
the other guys and we can talk about this when
we have more time with the other guys. I think
there are also other avenues to get them back in
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as well.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And you know what, if you need that that five
million bucks, that's fine. I don't even need that. I
was like, dude, they're professional athletes. This is the greatest
golfers in the world. Bring them back, put them on
the tour. If if the goal is to get the
best players in the world playing together and it makes
the PGA Tour better and it makes the ratings go
up and it makes my interest in the tournament increase,
then bring them back.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean, guys, can you imagine like back in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
They got a list here, Steve Young, Reggie White, Herschel Walker,
Doug Flute, Jim Kelly. You know what they all did
play for the USFL. Can you imagine if the NFL said, no,
we don't want you. I'm how ridiculous is that, No,
we don't want you because you went to a rival league.
You had the goal to go play for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Owned by our president.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Exactly what did he own a team by the owned team?
He was already tried to buy a team something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But the point is is that can you imagine if
the NFL had said those guys can't return, They can't
come back because they played in the USFL. Guys, these
players are just trying to, you know, make the best
living they can. Obviously, their best living looks different than
our best living. I understand that. But everybody is ultimately
trying to do the same thing, maybe on a different level,
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and that's make as much money as possible to make the.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Best living they can make.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And they remember what Harold Varner said, Look, this is
generational money that they never ever would have made on
the PGA tour.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh, we've talked about this I would have done in
a second.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I was gonna ask you, like Jackson, if Manchester City
called you Newcastle, we want you to be our new
radio voice. I'm gonna pay you ten million pounds a year,
see you later. You're out the door.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Everybody has a price.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What if?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
What if the PIF would be started a American podcast
sports network and said we're gonna take one notable influencer
from each major market. We're gonna pay that guy five
million bucks. And they called me, or they called you,
or they called it internash, or they called you Jackson.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You're out. See you're out.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I will do anything, except if it's for the Pearland.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Timbers, yea, the New Jersey General. There you go.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, we're gonna break more to come on ninety three
three kjr FM.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies corrected and the twelfth Man Sports Radio. Ninety
three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
All right, we're back kind of busy Thursday right here
on ninety three three kjr FM. The live golf uh
Tim Cook Mark Zuckerberg debate is raging like a wildfire
on the text line four nine four five one Social
media pitting Seattleite against seat.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm sure everyone's calm on the not really, that's okay.
Whatever you want to flip out and flip out.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean, you know, if you feel like that's where
you want to spend your energy, then go for it.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
A couple of people texted in and said, well, what
about your hate for Starbucks? Yeah, well he screwed us, right, and.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We've seen what kind of owner Howard Schultz is.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like a guy wrote in, you know, how would you
feel about Howard Schultz owning the Seahawks? I would not
feel good because of what he did to the Sonics.
I mean, is that all you got to know? Like,
there's no history as sports owners with Zuckerberg and Tim Cook,
but there is with Howard as It didn't go well
at all.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And he showed you what type of owner he is.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He's gonna he's gonna sell out whenever the times get tough.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do you want a guy or a gal to own
the Seahawks who has proven that he is willing to
sell a public trust to somebody he knows will move it.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
No? No, no answer is no. That would be my
first look. When I asked Claude about his resume.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, no, no, I mean, guys, because that's part of this, right,
I mean, honestly, it is part of it, like when
you have another owner. And like I said earlier, I
want to make this crystal clear, none of us have
a vote.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We should, but we don't.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
This is why I want to have John Gonzano on
at four o'clock today and ask him how much vetting
this new owner will the Allen of State do in
regards to what kind of stewards they'll be, Because if
you sell to the wrong person, like when the north
Strom sold to Ken Bhring and when Howard Schultz sold
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to Clayton Bennett, it almost cost us our football team,
and it cost us our basketball team.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Right, So if I am baseball team with Smollion, that's right,
I am getting out.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You're exactly right, Dick, it almost cost us our baseball
team too.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I am getting out.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And I want to make sure that whoever buys the team,
if they ever sell the team, wants to leave it here.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And I'm gonna look that guy or gallon the eye
and I want to read.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Him up and down like a book, and I want
to find out what kind of person they are because
I'm not selling this thing to you if in twenty
years from now you're gonna flip out and give it
to a guy from Florida, and.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You kind of just hit the nail on the head,
which is we need to know about who this person
is buying this yous personally. Are they somebody who has
ties to another place that does not have a football
team that they may want to move it to. Does
this person have a interest in getting hands on and
have a background with a company or background with wherever
their business is in coming in and getting their hands
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in the mud and changing culture of places. I think,
I mean, really, what we can do is, guys, we
can kind of build a wish list of the priorities
whoever owns the Seahawks, we need, X, y Z, and
just go down the list and start building out because
I think I think the great question the first two
things are that they won't move the team and that
they'll let John and Mike cook.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know what, that's actually a great point.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If you were on the committee to decide who was
going to buy the Seahawks, that there are multiple bids,
what are the three questions that you'd want to know
the answer to right.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah, I would say where are you from? We can
automatically know just that does that place have an NFL team?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And then what's your history in your business with with
I guess how impactful you are.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
In the day to day?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Right, person have a desire to have a team in
his or her hometown?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And how many companies have you sold?
Speaker 7 (22:05):
To make a quick bucket your question though, because you
can ask him and you can say, like, oh, let's
say you're from Let's just use this example because simply
they don't have an NFL team.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Oklahoma City business owner from Oklahoma City. Yeah, so you
know you're from Oklahoma City. Yeah, but I have no
interest in moving an NFL team there?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sure? Whyre?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I mean like maybe they don't.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Maybe they don't, right, but you want to find that out.
I mean, it's like the Clay Bennett thing.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
And the reason why I'd be obviously against Howard Schultz
is because he screwed us once already.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't trust the guy, and.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He sold the team to a dude who wasn't hiding
from the fact at all that he wanted to have
a team in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He put the freaking Hornets housed him after the hurricane.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oklahoma City after the hurricane, and they got great crowds.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He saw what Oklahoma City could be.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He was a minority owner in the Spurs, and he
saw what Oklahoma City can be. And look, he lied
about it when he came here. We all knew he
was lying. But everybody knew that Clayton Bennett had a
desire to have a team in Oklahoma, and that son.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Of a bitch sold to him.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So screw him, right, I mean that that's where the
disdain for Howard Schultz comes from. I don't blame Howard
Schultz for selling the basketball team if he couldn't handle it,
Dick and wanted to get out. Okay, fine, but can
you at least do us a favor and give it
to somebody who you know is not going to move it.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
This is interesting, guys, because I get through the the
the counter report about Tim Cook not actually being a
potential own.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, from Dylan Buyer's right.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Tim Cook is from Mobile, Mobile, Alabama. He went to
Auburn University. He has lots of roots in Alabama, Alabama
heavy football community.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
They don't have an NFL team. He's still worries me. Yeah,
they may not be able to football team. Yeah, they
may not be able to afford it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's not a city in Alabama big enough for an everything.
Your point, I understand your point.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean we're we're we're talking in general terms, right,
We're not talking you know, literal here in some ways.
I mean, Dick's right, You're right, you know whatever. I mean,
there's certain cities that I'd be concerned about, and there's
certain cities I would not be concerned about. Like, for example,
let's say a baseball team got sold tomorrow to a
guy who's from Portland. Okay, that's a problem. Yes, Portland
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wants a baseball team badly, all right, Salt Lake City.
Let's say there was an NBA basketball team that gets
sold tomorrow to a dude from Seattle.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Okay, oh right, I mean guys.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Hello, So there there are cities that you probably should
rank above others as far as concerns. But I just
think the general idea. I just want people. I know,
I am. I'm really as invested as I can be.
There's only so much we can invest in this. We
can't invest anything financially, obviously, but emotionally, time wise, we
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can invest as much as we want in who the
new owner of the Seahawks is going to be and
finding out what the process is all about, and talking
about the process on the year and guys, this is
actually a great time of the year for this to happen.
It's the summer, there's no football until preseason. You got
the Mariners, obviously, you got the NBA going on. But
this feels like, doesn't it, Guys a good time of
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the year to devote a lot of time to making
this a big topic that people are aware of. And
if it can even one iota influence somebody of power
with the Allen Foundation to make sure that they really
think about who buys this team, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
What is the general take on the text line that's
negative about either Cook or Oh? I mean, I mean,
I'm sorry. I don't follow the politics of Tim Cook.
I don't follow the politics of Facebook.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I mean, I just one guy says he's got a
program that tracks us and spies on us. Okay, A
plant a lot of a lot of oil money here
coming out of that stuff. Human rights issues with with
with Apple, Facebook employee relations issues. I mean, there's stuff
like that that will come up. Let me on the
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text line.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I did want to share.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I'm going to credit this person on my Twitter because
I when when we saw the Zuckerberg news, I posted
a gift from the social network of somebody destroying Zuckerberg's computer.
Matthew Munt, who who interacts with all of us on Twitter,
says we don't need Tim Cook. I don't want a
team who's behind by the league by five years and
announces moves as innovation. That's an Apple Samsung joke for you, right,
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got you?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Got you?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
So you're saying that Samsung is a superior product to
Apple by far, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean, I have an iPhone and I enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Whatever, But no, I think that Matthew's making it to
Actually a good point is like Tim Cook runs and
has run an organization that comes out with sorry iPhone users,
this is just the truth, comes out with technology and says.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We introducing a new technology. Great Galaxies did it five
years after?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well then don't they get sued for for I think
they do?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
They do?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
They do, and that's why Alcoa had to go and
change their messaging system.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So let's say, let's say and we're kind of veering
off here. But let's say that I let's say I
I I agree with all that. Okay, is Tim Cook
going to pay John Schneider what it takes to keep
monus GM?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes? Then fine, that's the most important. And stay out
of their business whatever. I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
If you want to rip off other people's ideas, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't give a damn. Just pay John Schneider what
he's working.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That's what those ideas that you're ripping off some of
that money, and go pay job.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Stay out of their business, though, I guess, and I
don't know how interested the masses are in this.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They should be interested in big times, they should be Yeah,
I should be.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think intrigued.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think that, Yes, there are certain things that we
talked about that I think are important to vet out.
I'd like to know who's doing the vetting. Is the
NFL coming down with a short list and presenting it
to Jody Allen and say, okay, here's the people. Well,
here here are the groups that we have vetted and approved.
Now you get to pick. I mean, it is her
football team given to her by Paul Allen, so she
(28:22):
should be able to pick, right.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean, I don't know how that works. That's the estate.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't have any idea. That's why we're getting John
on the air at four o'clock. That's what I want
to find out. I mean, this is the the Allen estate,
I believe is selling the assets of Paul Allen. They
are liquidating everything yachts, sports teams, museums. Right the what's
it called the the m pop? Is he still on that?
(28:49):
Does the Allen Foundation still on that thing? They're going
to sell that, right? I mean, everything's going every like
everything has to go to the studs and all of
it goes to charity. So whom makes the call? I
don't know, Well, I don't I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Mike Florio has talked about this a number of times,
and I am just glued to Pro Football talk whenever
he talks about this, because he's made it clear that
this is just simply about money and and the lawyers
involved and the selling for charity. It will be simply
who spends the most money. The caveat is the NFL
must approve that owner and it will take you. So
(29:25):
that that's always the case, right, right, always has It's
not just going to be like who spends the most money.
It could be anybody globally. The NFL will make sure
to do their background. Yeah, and I don't know about you, guys.
I trust the NFL an organization that said Dan Snyder, no,
you must sell this team. The NFL has done pretty
good with understanding.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
They want this to keep it.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Keep in mind the NFL, and this is a long
time ago. They also were the ones that approved Ken
Baring as a buyer. They said, yes. I mean, the
point is they make mistakes and look, guys, honestly, I'm
not worried about the team moving at all. No, like
it's not even on my radar. What I'm worried about
is somebody not running it the right way and us
not winning games.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Because then you're stuck.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's what I'm wanting. You have a bad GM, you're
not stuck. If you have a bad quarterback, you're not stuck.
If you have a bad coach, you're not stuck. If
you had a bad owner, you're stuck. You were absolutely
stuck until they do something so stupid that they're forced
to sell the team, or they decide to sell the team.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And in certain look at the Cleveland Browns, look at
Panthers much they have down.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
There so many franchises out there that are just mired
in and mediocrity at best because they are poorly owned.
And the Seahawks could be that in the next five.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
With the wrong guy, they totally could be. I mean,
we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
We can't sit here and say the biggest reason why
the Hawks had success for thirty years is because of
Paul Allen and then not admit that the exact opposite
can have the exact opposite impact. Both things are possible,
and we just saw one of them for thirty years,
which was great. So how about we really try and
keep that train going. And let's not hire a bum
and a maniac and an ego and somebody who wants
(31:01):
to stick his hand in the cookie jar when it
don't belong. There, a guy who thinks you know his
football when he doesn't. Look at Jerry Jones, for God's sakes,
are you a kidding me? I mean, Jerry john without
Super Bowl? I mean what if you what if this
team gets sold to an owner who says, I'm gonna
be the GM, I'm gonna do what Jerry did. Oh god,
I mean, it's happening right now, and It's been happening
(31:22):
for thirty years in Dallas and nobody in the NFL
has done anything about it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
We honestly, they can't.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
We have to put our trust in the NFL owners
and Roger Goodell to say yes to the right person.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, but is it the trust? I need to know
the order.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Is it the NFL vetting handing it to Jody or
is it Jody Vetting handing it to the end.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
A committee that represents the foundation.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
That's right, we'll find out A four with John Gonzono
Fun with Audio next.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Now back to Softie and Dick Got your Home for
the Huskies, Crack and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety
three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We're going to do a little shift here, a little
fun with Audio coming on five forty five tonight because
he is joining us right now.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
On the radio show.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
There's a story out there that Mark Zuckerberg and Tim
Cook of Apple and Facebook obviously you have interest in
buying the Seahawks. That has now been refuted by multiple people,
first by Dylan buyers from Puck and now from Bloomberg.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Dick Fainner also shooting down that story. So we thought
we'd put Dylan on the air and find out what
he knows.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Dylan don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
If you ever saw the movie My Cousin Vinnie, when
Joe Pesci calls Sheriff Farley to the stand and just says, so,
what do you know? So just tell us what do
you know about this? Zuckerberg and Tim Cook thing.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Well, first of all, pleasure to be on with you, softie,
And I'm from Seattle and I am a Seahawks fan,
so honor. Look here, I'm a bit out of my
jurisdiction here. I'm not a sports reporter. I don't usually
cover this beat. I am, however, your reporter, and have
relationships with some of the guys around both Tim Cook's
(33:05):
CEO of Apple and Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta, And
the moment that this report came out, I thought, no
way this can be true. So I reached out to
both both parties and got a pretty swift response which
was just like, no, we're not interested. There might be
a scenario here where these guys have their investments in
(33:28):
capital firms that might be interested. I'm thinking of a
firm like Iconic, which a lot of the big Silicon
Valley guys have their money in maybe they are taking
a look at what at most could be like a
ten percent stake in the Seahawks. But the notion that
either Zuckerberg or Cook are interested in this is just
(33:49):
patently false. And in the hours since I put that
out into the world, of course, spokespeople for both men,
I believe, have come forward to Bloomberg and said as
much as well.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So where did this come from? Dylan? Is this?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Is just this imagined?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Or because they're potentially ties to this capital group, that
that's that's where they put the pieces together.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
I what I hear's what I would say, and I
don't I don't want to. I have been somewhat mystified
at the way that front off the sports. I know
a lot of folks run off the sports. I like them,
I know, I know their investment in their backers like
I like those guys too. I don't want to cast
dis versions or anything, but I would say, I think
what happened is they got some bad intel or some
(34:30):
bad rumors. Rumors, as you know, tend to fly around
the world of sports and just deal making more broadly,
and uh, I guess they didn't run it down I think.
I think what still mystifies me is why, even now
that the reporter of that piece has acknowledged that both
Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg's people are denying it, but
they still haven't changed the headline on the site.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, so, Dylan Buyer's again with us from puck Dot
News with us signed the year you mentioned kind of
venturing out of your your at your zone a little
bit here. But you cover the media world all that stuff,
and you know Apple, you know Meta, you know Google,
all that stuff. When you saw this story, you said,
your first response is there's no way that's true. What
is it about Tim Cook? What is it about Zuckerberg
(35:14):
that led you to believe that?
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Sure? Well, one, I would say, I know these guys
a little bit, and Mark is like firmly involved with
running Meta. Has never expressed interest in owning a sports team.
It would be very out of character for him. Could
he afford to do so? I think his net worth
is somewhere in the realm of like three hundred and
fifty to four hundred billion dollars a moment, So the
(35:38):
answer is sure he could. Tim Cook like can't. Tim
Cook's doesn't have the network to do it. Conceivably he
could be part of an investment group. But Tim, despite
getting ready to step down as CEO and take on
the chairman role at Apple, is also not a guy
who's expressed interests in sports ownership. I mean he's interested
in having, you know, Apple having media rights for F
one or mls like that, but that's just that's not
(36:02):
his daily wick. And and also just to go about that,
you know, for either one of those guys, is something
that would have happened I think with a lot more
calculation and then ultimately a lot more discretion.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
So if it's not these guys, Dylan, who is it?
I mean, what type of person makes sense? I mean,
you're saving the business world. You're a Seahawk fan. I
can imagine you'll probably dip your toes into this area
here pretty soon, if you haven't already, I will.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
And look, there's a lot of interest here. I think
you get to a certain sort of stratosphere of wealth,
and you know, what is there to buy if not
an NFL or an NBA team. You certainly when you're
talking about the NFL, you guys know better than anyone
you are talking about thirty two people or family offices
who are part of one of the best best recurring
(36:55):
revenue businesses in the world. So I get why people
would want this. I have to imagine it's an individual
like that. On the other hand, we start to see
more room open up for private equity to get into this.
You see Josh Harris and Apollo getting into owning the
Washington Commanders, So I certainly think there's a lot more
room for that. I don't deny that there will be
(37:16):
a wealthy individual, perhaps one with name recognition, perhaps out
of Silicon Valley, right that comes forward here. It's just
not one of these two guys.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, no, I mean it's funny Dylan And again Dylan
buyers from Puck Dot News with us. So he was
the first to kind of refute this Front Office Sports
report that Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg were showing interest
in buying the Seahawks, and that's now been backed up
by the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Folks over at Bloomberg.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I mean, you know, my first name that I came
up with, not to buy the Seahawks per se, because
he's a Bay Area guy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Was a guy like a Larry Ellison who has.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Shown to have interest like he wanted to buy the
Golden State Warriors and he got shot down. Like you
know somebody like that from this area. I mean, Steve
Balmer's name comes up all the time. He owns the Clipperies,
he's got ties to Seattle. Well, you know, Bill Gates
is you know, a basketball fan per se, but who
knows what kind of moment in time in his life
(38:07):
he's in when you think about, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Those types of people.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jeff Bezos, for example, tried to buy the freaking Commanders
for God's sakes, right, are we talking about people like
that that we should be talking about.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Yes, we are, we are. We are totally talking like
people about that. And by the way, I would not
look at someone with ties to Seattle. Certainly seems to
make a lot of sense. But we I think we've
reached a point where the value of these teams is
so high and it's such a limited limited inventory. When
(38:39):
teams come on the market, that is, it does not
necessarily need to be someone who has Seattle or Pacific
Northwest ties, Right, I think you look at thirty two teams,
I haven't you know, unlike the Sonics coming back, I
haven't heard any talk of expansion in the NFL I
don't think that's happening. So when a team comes on
the market, anyone who even has a glimmer of an
(39:01):
interest and this is going to take a look. And
you're right, there are only so many people with the
kind of capitals that can make it happen.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, Dylan, great stuff, man. I appreciate this and we
will talk down the road.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Man. Thanks for jumping on in a pinch here man.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Dylan Buyers from puck Dot News again was the first
one to come out. There was a story that was
tweeted out reported earlier today by Front Office Sports that
Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook are each among the names
considering bids for the Seahawks, and Dylan quoted that said,
this just flat out is not true. And Bluemberg came
(39:35):
out and joined the chorus. So who knows. Right in
the end, you know what's going to happen. I could
see a cynic that just heard that entire conversation, a
skeptics saying, well, of course they're going to say no.
Of course they're going to deny that they have interest
in buying the Seahawks. They don't want their shareholders to know.
They don't want the employees to know. They don't want
their partners potentially to know that they're doing something like this.
(39:57):
Brought up concrete reasons for sure about their personalities, all
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Tim Cook, I mean again, he's exactly right. You could
see him being part of a group to buy the Seahawks.
Maybe he buys a minority share, right, you never know.
Maybe he's the I mean, John Stanton doesn't own the
majority share of the Mariners, but he's the public facing
voice en franchise.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Larson ever like been a facing person.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
With the er.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I don't even know what Chris Larson's voice sounds like.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, I have no idea, right, I mean, people that
I talk to that know him say he's kind of
a quiet, kind of an awkward kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
He does what he does, and Stanton's the face. So
maybe you see Tim Cook doing something like that. Zuckerberg
if he did one day. Maybe maybe Zuckerberg is sitting
around California and he's thinking to himself, you know what,
I really wasn't planning on buying a football team, but
then I saw this tweet come out.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
That's a good idea. We all do that. The thing
about Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Is he's so young right that he literally twenty five
years from now could be like, now, I want to
buy a football team, only like sixty you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, he's uh, he's forty one years old.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
By the way, for forty one forty one years imagine
having an owner that's forty one years old of your
Seattle see forty one yard Well, I think there's an
angle on this from the local perspective, from the group
that's going to sell the Seahawks and the group that
just bought the Portland Trail Blazers, that should be of
massive interest to Seahawks fans. We're gonna kind of hit
(41:26):
on that angle a little bit with John Canzono next
on ninety three three KJRFM.
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