May 1, 2026 • 45 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler chats with Hugh Millen about the UW Spring Game tonight and a breakdown of some key players in the Seahawks draft last week, then he visits with both Geirean Hatchett and Landen Hatchett, the brothers who both play on the Huskies offensive line plus Cam Cleeland stops by the show before the game starts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Our friend Huey Miller joining us on the radio program,
How are you.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Buddy, I'm doing great? Go Dogs, Yeah, go dogs.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Well look, I mean, obviously these things are getting less
and less important as the years go by, as far
as what coaches are showing. Right, we had Ryan Walters
on Hugh about an hour and a half ago, two
hours when he said, tonight's going to be as vanilla
as they can be.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
You know, we all know that. You know, a bunch
of guys aren't even playing. The Hatchet brothers who will
join us next segment are sitting out tonight. But I mean,
if you're watching this thing from the stands as a fan,
what's important to you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What are you looking for?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I think you, first of all, look at the corners.
I think the further you get from the ball. I
think the more it's like real football when when you're
scrimmaged in like this and to have lost to Carlo
Davis and Afeesian and Price sock out of forty two
corners that the NFL had on their scouting list that
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I saw, they were number one and number two in height. Yeah,
the tallest, longest armed corners in all of college football.
And you know they were able to use that to
their advantage in terms of playing single high structures where
the extra safety could be in the box. That influenced
how they could defend the run. It influenced how they
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defend the quick game because when your press coverage, a
lot of the quick game disappears. A hits route will
convert to a fade an offensive playbook, a quick out,
a five yard out route will convert to a fade,
a skinny post what's called a three cutter, and oki
a six step speed out will convert to a fade.
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And so you can really constrict the quick game of
the opponent just by being in press. And so the
Huskies were able to do that. They had some NFL
capable guys, right, and you know that that would be
I think job one is to see where we are
with the corners, not just whether that they can play,
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but can they play, press, bump and run.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Well, that's interesting. We'll keep an eye on that, not
just tonight, but throughout the year. And then, you know,
our first chance to see demand in person since since
the Organ game a year ago, right, since that big
thing over the offseason. And there was some chatter today
on social media just like and how do you think
fans will respond? And I don't think it's gonna be
a Boofest tonight at all. I mean, honestly, I didn't
even really thought about it, you know, up until I
(02:40):
saw that post by the barstool guys on on on Twitter.
But what are you looking for out of number one
this year?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Man?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Honestly, Well, you mentioned Boofest. That's a possibility. I mean,
that is in play, not for tonight, because how many
season ticket holders you have forty five fifty listeners, just
pick a fifty thousand numbers. You know, if you get
five thousand to night, the five thousand you're getting tonight,
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I think would be less inclined to boo during a
spring game.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That just the we'll just.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Say that out loud, kind of weird, right, ye, right,
But I think that if you have, uh, you know,
any kind of setback. Now, the schedule lays out favorable
for Washington and and particularly for Demon Williams with respect
to him earning back the respect of his teammates and
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the fans and what have you, and somehow trying to
you know, dig out of that hole that he he
dug for himself. But if there is any kind of setback,
you know, what's Let's take like Wisconsin from a year ago,
even Michigan, Michigan. You know, they're they're a tall hat cowboy.
We get that because they're Michigan Wolverines. But the way
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Demon played in that game, you know, was so poor that,
you know, in essence you could say, in the same
manner that Sam Darnold lost the RAM game at LA,
you could say that DeMont Williams lost the Michigan game.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So I think if if you have, if he has
a game or two like that, I mean, warn Moon
got booed for two years. I've been booed, been you know,
the list of guys that have been booed in that
stadium is long, and I wouldn't be surprised if if
the sequence lays out the way I just described. Demon
Williams could hear that as well, but I don't expect
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it tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Hugh Millin's with us, all right, Hugh, uh, You've had
a chance now to watch tape all the film on
the draft picks for the Seahawks, all eight guys that
came in this year. Let's just get kind of an
overall view on this class from your perspective after breaking
the whole thing down.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, I think that most dire need, the most urgent
need was halfback, obviously, and I think that they got
a guy in Jedarian Price that fits the spot where
they were selecting at thirty two. So so I think
you know you've got sources, I've got sources. I really
believe that the top three guys that they that they wanted,
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that they targeted, they believed they were going to get
those guys. They they you know, in terms of Price,
Clark and Neil, those guys now they didn't. They are
not going to tell us that before the draft, right
because they lose their jobs. But you got twenty eight
years of us covering the draft. You learn some trust
with these guys. You know, they don't say that every year.
In fact, they only say it maybe ten one out
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of ten years, Like, hey, this draft unfolded the way
we thought of what we thought we were going to
be able to get Price, Bud Clark and Julian Neil
and so I take them at their word. I think
that that's that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Price.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The only you know, minor hiccup if you will, on
the plan was that they wanted to draft, you know,
trade back to maybe thirty five, thirty eight, just you
know a handful of spots back from thirty two and
still get Jadari and Price. But they got the guys
they want. They needed the half back. There's there's no
part was way, shape or form, or any part of
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me that thinks that that they are equipped at the
running back position in the absence of Jenarian Price, if
you want to say, Emmanuel Wilson and a.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Whomever.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
There's just no way that that halfback room was befitting
a Super Bowl champion, no doubt. Well, they had to
upgrade that one.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Hundred percent, and they got the best guy available by
a large margin. I think the next running back that
was taken was that the kid from Indiana. I think
that went third overall among running backs. I may be
wrong about that, but whoever that third running back was
that was draft and went like fifty spots later, So
they would have they would have been dropping down in talent,
at least by NFL draft evaluators. You know, perspectives a
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pretty good margin. So I'm totally with you. But Sunny
Dike's was on the show a few days ago. We
talked about Bud Clark, and you know, look, you mentioned
the media the night he was drafted. I've playedel, I've
played corner, I've played safety, uh and a buck eighty eight.
I think a lot of us felt like, hey, where's
this guy gonna play? Well, Sonny Dike says he's a
safety at the next level. I mean, is that what
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you see it? Do you see a free safety or
do you see a box safety?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I I try and say, okay, is there a way
I can thread the needle where where Sonny Dike's is
right and Mike McDonald's right. Because the second thing out
of Mike McDonald's mouth, uh, and it was conspicuous to
me on the night that he drafted Bud Clark is
that he can play nickel. So and and by the way,
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if you said, Okay, you've gotta you gotta fa you
gotta favor one or the other. Look, I might give
Sonny Dikes all the latitude you could ever give a
guy for his vision of how tc US defense is
going to play. But I'm gonna I'm gonna default to
Mike McDonald on the evaluation of Bud Clark about whether
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or not he can be a nickel. So am I
making myself clear? I think he's a nickel.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Want to know why I.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Think he's a nickel because Mike McDonald says he's a nickel, right,
And I've watched him and look his his traits. You know,
he's either you know, he's either a kind of big
corner actually he's really kind of corner size. At under
one ninety that's not even a big corner. He is
a corner sized guy. But but guess what, that's the
same stuff we were saying about Devin Witherspoon, Like, wait
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a minute this. You know, you know he's like one
hundred and eighty pounds. How can he play nickel? Well,
you know what, if you have the right athleticism and
you can snap your hips and you know, and and
the strength coach says, hey, dude, this guy can power
clean three forty five. It's like, oh, okay, you know
power clean is converting strength over time, and and you
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know you got to be able to snap your hips
to be able to do that. And we see that
Devin Witherspoon at at a small size, is able to
pack up big punch. And so if Mike McDonald believes
he can do that, look, I've seen. I took the
tape and every single down of Cover one that TCU
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played Cover one is man to man. I'm just saying, hey,
did TCU say we want Bud Clark to be the
post safety just roaming center field and reacting to what
he sees like Earl Thomas? Or are they gonna put
him in man to man? And I was almost through
the entire tape and I said, they haven't put this
guy in the post safety one time. And then finally
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they did. Finally they did one snap, so they TCU
believed in his man and man skills. Mike McDonald believes
in his man and man skills. He runs a four
to four to one, which is in the ninety percentile
plus for safety, so he's got the traits even though
he's lean, he's got the traits to cover. And Mike
McDonald knows exactly how that vision is. So yeah, no,
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I feel good about Bud Clark. Why wouldn't I?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, don't you.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Captain fifteen interceptions? Mike McDonald thinks he can play the
position he wants.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
He's got the vision. Yeah, okay, what about the kid
from Iowa, the right guard? What about him? Does he
have a chance to supply or do you think?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Uh, that's an interesting take because that you know, when
you take a guy on the third day, you're saying, Okay,
why isn't he a first rounder? He was a first
team All American. He was the left guard on the
Joe Moore winning offensive line, which, as we know is
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is the ward given to the best offensive line. The
dude was a freaking not good. He was a great
player for Iowa. Why was he a third day guy? Well,
you know, it's a little bit like Olua Timmy. You know,
when the NFL looks at a guy who is that productive.
When I mean productive, you say, wait a minute, he
didn't score touchdowns. He's an offensive guard. Productive, mean, he's
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the first team All American ap All American. I mean,
you get your you get your photo hung all over
the University of Washington if you you know reach that,
I mean I didn't, you know, I respect those who
did everyone. So that's a big deal. First team All American.
But of all that, I think it was one hundred
and twenty eight, one hundred and twenty nine guys that
ran at the combine. His his eighteen and a half
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miles per hour is the slowest out of one hundred
and twenty nine. All of his measurables. You know, he's
got the shortest arms and the smallest hands. They're like,
there's some measurable problems with him in the eyes of
the NFL. That that that allowed him to fall to
the fifth round. And so this is you know, sometimes
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it's the opposite. In fact, often it's the opposite. You say, wow,
this guy's got you know, he's a high cut, beautiful
looking athlete. Look at how he tests, what have you.
The football didn't really play out, but but look at
the the athleticism you have. Let's let's uh, let's bet
on his athleticism is traits. And that happens all up
and down the draft. This is the opposite. This is
(12:03):
wait a minute, the guy was a great player, but
the traits are are really concerning. That's why it falls
to the fifth round. As for Anthony Bradford, you know
my feeling about him.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm not alone.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'm not And yes, I I can get up on
a whiteboard and I can draw the freaking outside zone.
I was there with Alex Gibbs in the meeting when
he when he installed that damn thing. I understand the
outside zone. And so uh so when I when I
when I say that that, uh, Anthony Bradford has been
(12:35):
the weakest uh of the eleven guys that start on
the offense. I I'll stand on that.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah, And somebody's got to be the way, right, there's
got to be a number eleven exactly out of eleven guys, right.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Like yes, yes, and and you know what, I can
acknowledge that he improved.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But here's the question to you about Bradford. Okay, so
if we if we just take that approach, like out
of eleven guys, somebody has to be the weakest, Like
you have the best eleven offensive players in the NFL
playing for what offense, but the eleventh guy is going
to be the worst of that group. How bad is
he compared to other starting right guards in the NFL
in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, first of all, yeah, just sender to score that point.
If you said, gun to the head, any logically thinking person,
let's say a real football expert that you trust, and
he said, tell me the worst player on the nineteen
eighty five Chicago Bears defense. Right now, that's the greatest
defense I've ever seen in fifty well over fifty years
watching football. But they had to have the weakest, right Like,
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if you were thinking, hey, are we going to draft,
is there anybody that we we can draft or replace
maybe get a little better than the eighty five Bears,
So of course there's gonna be the weakest if if
you know, I believe it's Anthony Bradford and well, Piet
the last three years he's he's in the bottom. You know,
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every single year he's with you know, you know, there's
ninety four qualifiers and he's eighty ninth or there, there's
eighty seven qualify fires and he's qualifiers in he's eighty third.
Like it's it's so yeah, year after year. But if
you wanted to argue against me, say, well, what was
(14:15):
was the best month or six weeks, not the not
the NFC Championship game. But but you know, you know,
I think I think that there's been a slight improvement.
And hey, the offensive line as a unit were able
to do what they did with Canine running behind it,
so that that's not that's a point not to be dismissed.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Hey, Hugh, I want to get to the Rams situation
in a minute, and just getting to react to some
stuff that's come out since the weekend. Uh, talk to
us about Dante Fowler junior. Uh, there's some interest by
the Seahawks apparently in him.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
What do you what do you make of it?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I think it's very interesting what Mike McDonald is able
to do with veteran cast off defensive ends. Go back
to twenty twenty three is last year Baltimore. The Ravens
led the NFL in most sacks. Who were their defensive
ends Kyle van Noy and Jadeveon Clowney. Both of them
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were on the wrong side of thirty. Both of them
were at least on their fifth team. You don't think
of Jadeveon Clowney as a journeyman because he was the
first overall, and he has all that athleticism, and of
course he as a Seahawk. You know, we know Jadeveon Clowney.
But the facts are the facts. If you've been on
five plus teams by the age of thirty, you're a journeyman.
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And yet at the most critical positions for trying to
create sacks defensive ends, they just had average aging journeymen
with the Ravens. What did they have last year? What
are the Seahawks? Well, you had Nuosu. He's not a journeyman.
He's only been on two teams, but you know, and
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DeMarcus Lawrence, he's not a journeyman. He's only been on
two teams, but he's thirty three before. So so I
think that Mike McDonald, that's the keep the theme that
I keep running back to. Mike McDonald has a vision
of what NFL defense should look like. And always bet
on Mike McDonald until we we we start losing, right
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because and so so he has a vision for older guys,
cast off veteran guys that that that maybe at once
we're thought to have some some real good athleticism, he
can get a little bit more out of those guys.
So yeah, if if uh, if the Seax signed one
of these guys, uh, then and and we're talking in
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foallor well, well, was he he was a top five pick?
Was he a third overall?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, third overall fifteen draft? The first thought I had
is that that Luke Joco draft no. Is two years
later but third overall. Yeah, missed his rookie year, didn't
play as a rookie for that.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So he he fits the profile of what he's been
able to do with great success at the Ravens and
great success with the Seahawks. In my opinion, I see
filers sign with them, I'm like, there you go. Yeah,
Mike mack you you and your vision. You just you
did and and I'm betting that you'll make it happen.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I'm it doesn't feel like one of these roll your
eyes Pete Carroll reclamation projects again from the twenty thirteen
NFL Draft. Maybe because Mike McDonald hasn't gone through those
guys enough and not have them perform for us to
roll our eyes the way we did. I mean it
was remember it was joke Old Dion, Jordan, ziggy On,
Barcavius Mingo, DJ Flucker, Sheldon Richard said, Eddie Lacy was
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a part of that draft.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So you know, look, when you're going off, when you're
coming off for.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
A super Bowl, you get a lot of a lot
of a lot of better for the doubt.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Don't you Yeah, coming off the Super Bowl. But that's
that's that's a general proposition. I'm saying specifically, what am
I what are we narrowing this in this particular part
of the conversation. We're narrowing to defensive ends that are
older than thirty there were once thought to be you know,
at least that the very least have elite traits. And
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what what can Mike McDonald do, Well, you know what
Mike McDonald's does. We've just been listing the precedent of
Mike McDonald taking those guys and being able to put
forth a productive defense that far belies what the market
thought was there, Like like Fowler, if he's available now
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because the rest of the league doesn't value him as
into a great deal, right that that can just be deduced.
So now Mike McDonald says, Okay, you thirty one other teams,
you don't see what I see, And I'll go with
what Mike McDonald sees because he's proven it.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, so before you go, and I'm totally with you
on all that. By the way, he's just a massive
amount of trust with that guy. The ty Simpson thing,
you know, we all saw mcvay's reaction when they drafted him.
Then there's the stories that come out that they didn't
meet ty Simpson said that on draft day. Then ty
Simpson comes out and says, well, I actually did meet
with them. We had an hour's long meeting before the draft.
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Then the story comes out that maybe McVeigh was, you know,
being coy because you wanted to respect Matthew Stafford. Then
some folks are arguing that ty Simpson's lying about the
meeting you had with Sean McVay.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I mean, what do you what do you make of
all this?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Man, Well, there's a lot of things for them. Really,
there's no theory of everything that makes sense to me,
because the theory of everything would take all the ensemble
effacts that you just said, and then they would be
woven together to say, Okay, this is what happened. And
I haven't been able to weave that together. But I
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do prioritize some of those facts, and I'll tell you
one that I really prioritize. I don't. I do not
believe in any way that Sean McVay is is going
to be handed a successor to Matthew Stafford that he
has not approved of, Right, that they're just that McVay
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has not approved of. Correct that Sean McVay sean like,
there's no there's no like dissension. This is not like
Tim Ruskill, you know, only transitioning Steve Hutchinson and Mike
Holmgren losing it like like that. There's no way that
they are taking Sean McVay and saying this is who
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your quarterback has to be. Now what what the reason
why I say, there's no theory of everything? It doesn't
make sense to me that Ty Simps, if you're gonna
move off of Jared Goff, who had already been to
two Pro Bowls. This is the Rams number one overall
pick two Pro Bowls, had had two seasons looking up
Dave By, they go two seasons over forty six hundred yards,
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had taken the Rams to the Super Bowl. And then
you're gonna take Jared Goff and not one but two
number ones to move him to get the guy that
you really want and that happens to be the person
of Matthew Stafford. Stafford comes in the building, you win
a Super Bowl with him. What did Matthew Stafford provide
for the rams that John McVeigh looked and said, Jared
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Goff can't. Well, there's a special quality to Stafford in
terms of like his creativity, the arm angle most especially
the hand cannon that he can just make throws down
the field and he can shove it into mailboxes from
forty yards. And we saw that last year he was
an MVP. So it doesn't make sense to me that
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he would then say, Okay, that's that's the traits that
we went hunting for that GoF could not supply, and
then now we're going to go Ty Simpson, who is
like an athletics version of Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make
a lot of sense to me, but no part of
me is buying the idea. Here's two things that I
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think are absurd. That Sean McVeigh is not is not
on board with the successor to Matthew Stafford, and that
somehow they're gonna do this as a favor. That they
told Ty Simpson that he was gonna be a first
round draft pick, and then when it looked like he
wouldn't be well to kind of say face with the dad,
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We'll just draft Tye Simpson in the first round. That
that is the That's as nonsensical as ye as any
proposition I could imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Well, yeah, right, Jared got forty six hundred yards, fifty
four touchdowns and back to back years with Detroit. Landon
Hatchet Garren Hatchett, the two of them here, we're gonna
join us next on the year. We'll let you go
enjoy your Friday and we'll talk on Monday.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Man, appreciate it. Go dogs, all right, you got it,
Go dogs.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Landon Hatchett, Garret Hatchett, the Hatchet Brothers, I'm gonna call
him the hatchet Men, will join next as we continue
to get ready for Dogs After Dark at six.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Right here on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Now back to Sofie and Dick Gone your home for
the Huskies Cracking and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, we are getting ready for the annual Dogs After
Dart game coming up tonight at six thirty. Broadcast with
Tony and Cam and Elise at six PM and two
guys that look like they're gonna be having some fun tonight,
the Hatchet Brothers, Landing Gear and are with us on
the radio show. And you guys are gonna sit this
one out tonight, just nursing some some Nixon bruises and
(23:29):
things like that. Yes, sir, but tell us what you're
doing tonight. If you're not out there playing, what's the
role for you guys tonight, what.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Are you doing?
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Just trying to help the boys out anyway we can
give him any coaching points he can, and also just
bring that energy, bring that juice. Always trying to make
sure that everybody's hyped up on the sideline, not letting
it get too quiet in here.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, do we need to actually distinguish which one's talking?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like this isn't TV right so we can see you.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Do we sound Do we sound too much alike?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
This is that was Landing by the way, this one's Garret. Okay,
there you go, there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I mean, I'm gonna just keep reminding people because I
do think you sound similar.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I mean you don't look like each other really at all,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I mean kind of this guy is a little how
would you describe Landing? Oh wait, your brother if you
if you had to say, hey, my brother is gonna
come out with us tonight. You've never met him, but
keep an eye out for a guy that looks like dot.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
How would you describe your brother Landon? Big?
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Muscular, Yeah, nice beard okay, great flowing okay, handsome guy,
handsome guy.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Okay, all right? How about how about this guy? Howbout Garren?
How would you describe him to?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Somebody like that?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
A little not as nice beard as me?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But probably yeah, here you go.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Do you have a hat on or hat off?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Probably had on? Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
Head on if he takes it off, might be a
little less hair than me.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But I would.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Say we're pretty similar.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Well, but here's the thing I think people don't realize.
And if I'm wrong about this, correct me. Hearing this
year seventh hearing college football? Sure, okay, seven years in
college football, because you started in twenty twenty. There's been
some injuries, to transfer, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
What's that been like? What's seven years in college been
like for you?
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Men?
Speaker 7 (25:13):
It's been interesting.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
It's been nothing but fun.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Though I would like to say I have one of
the most unique careers just based off of coming in
here during COVID, having multiple coaching changes early on, transferring
to another school, coming back, multiple different injuries. So that's
kind of how we ended up at seven years. But
I've had an amazing time and I've got to see
the landscape of college football change more than a lot
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of people have in their playing careers. From no nil
no transfer portal to nil transfer portal everything. It's been
nothing but fun but crazy for sure.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Well there's no doubt it's crazy, and people have described
Some people have described the current state of college football
as a disaster, the other people have described it as
a step in the right direction for you guys, for sure,
for the players. But is it better? Honestly, is it
better now from a player active than it was when
you showed up in twenty.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
It's just different.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Back then.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
We were all here just for the love of the game,
and that's why a lot of us are still here,
just because we love playing football and playing with our brothers.
But there is that added benefit to, you know, getting
the NIO money. So I would definitely say it's different.
I wouldn't say one was better than the other. Like
I keep saying it is nice to get the NIO
money and I do think the players do deserve it.
But yeah, it's different, but it either way. Both both
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errors were very fun to play in and good player
friendly for sure.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Well that's Garren, this is landing over here, Highland. Thanks
for being a part of the interview. How about you,
I mean, this is not what your fourth year in
college football on you. I mean, just like him, you've
noticed a lot of change since you first showed up
out of high school.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Yeah, but you know, it's got to stick it out
with with my brother for a good chunk of it,
which has been awesome. You know, been lucky enough to
stick around you dub for all four years. It's been
a great, great program, been awesome for me. I love
it with all my heart. You know, like you said,
it'saw a lot of change. Obviously came in with the Boar,
had a great season there, and then Fish came in.
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We had a little bumpy start in twenty twenty four,
and then last year was last year was a Saw season,
not what we wanted. But we're really excited for this
year and I think this spring game is gonna be
the first look at the talent that we got on
this team.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
What was it like when he left? When Garon took
off to go to Oklahoma? Where you where you were
you pissed? Were you like? What are you doing? Man?
You're leaving being behind? I was pissed you left because
he's a good player. I don't like leaving. I like
losing good players.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I sometimes I think I think players lose sight of
that that the fans are mad at you for transferring
because you're a good player. If you're stunk, nobody would
give a damn, like, hey, get rid of the guy,
he's a bum.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
But he was a solid player for US obviously in
twenty twenty three with Calan, A lot of a lot
of action on that on that on that team.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
When he left, What was that like for you? For
that one years gone?
Speaker 9 (27:48):
I definitely wasn't mad at him. You know, he's he's
had a different college experience than I have. He came
in during COVID, you know, committed under Peterson. Right the
right after he committed, Peterson called him said, Yo, I'm
not gonna coach anymore. Then he had Lake and then
Tobor so he's been through three coaches really already and
then going into a fourth I totally understand why you'd
want to explore a different option, you know, just got
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done with his fourth season here and wanted to try
something new, you know, and then he obviously ended up
coming back to the light side.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
But yeah, yeah, I was. I was happy for.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Him to be able to do do what he wanted
to do and experience what he wanted to experience, and
you know, all all things led back.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It kind of gearan feels like it didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, from maybe the media's perspective, I know from your perspective,
it feels totally different.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
For me, I recognized that I did leave, but it almost,
like you said, almost, it feels like it didn't happen.
I feel like I was back here so fast. My
one year at Oklahoma, I was out the whole season
with an injury. So that's probably part of the reason
why it didn't feel like it happened, because when I
was playing, I was here, and then I got back
here right into playing again off of that injury. So uh,
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I'm definitely glad that I experienced it, got it, experience
something new, made some lifelong friendships down there, got a
lot of family down there, in the area, so got
to spend.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Some time with them.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
But I'm glad to be back here playing with Lando,
especially for my last year of football here.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Well, the Hatchet Boys, they're now the hatchet Men, by
the way, with us on the radio show, Landing and
Garon Hatchett, they'd be sitting out the spring game tonight,
but both back in the fall obviously for fall camp.
Talk about the transition guys with this offensive line, because
you were a part Garan, as we said, of that
great Joe Moore Joe Moore Award winning excuse me, offensive
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line in twenty three with Roger and Troy and Parker
and all those guys, and then everything got blown to
hell in twenty twenty four. So what have you noticed
about the highest of highs, maybe the lowest of lows
and now bouncing back up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, with that group for sure.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
No, it's been absolutely awesome just to get to see
this group working as hard as we can. Coach Switzer
has been doing everything he can to make sure the
culture in the room is getting back to where it
used to be and having older guys in the room
like me and Landon and a couple of the other
guys who got to experience against that twenty twenty three
team and just know what the standard is here for
offensive line play, just to be able to implement that back.
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And I think last year we took great steps forward.
We had a great o line room in general, but
just guys like John and Drew and Carver who really
came in here and helped us a lot bring that
culture back to where it needs to be. And we're
just taking steps every single day.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
And you were a freshman on that team twenty twenty three,
so you saw what these guys were all about. Then
twenty twenty four. Honestly I got to ask both you guys,
and Landing will start with you, how big of a
mess was that in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
And it should have been a mess.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Everybody left, for God's sake, the whole thing got blown
to bit saying new guys all over the place, Every
offensive starter is gone, including the entire line. How big
of a mess was that to deal with in twenty four?
Speaker 8 (30:44):
You know?
Speaker 9 (30:45):
For what it was, I think we actually ended up
having a doing a pretty good job. And shout out
to you know, Fish and at the time BC and
Switch for putting it together. But you know, I said
an interview before we came together for the first time,
that's a complete offensive line group in twenty twenty four
in June, and we had two months of summer workouts
and then camp to kind of bond as a unit.
So for what we were given in the in the
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you know, what we were dealt, I think we actually
ended up doing a pretty good job. Obviously, it wasn't
ideal for us to kind of be mitched, you know,
mix and match thoughn guys in places that they haven't
been in before and trying to just make it work.
But you know, the guys all put their heads down,
and that's always been the culture of a U doub
offensive line room is no matter what you got, you,
you know, you take pride in making the most of
your situation and taking advantage of your opportunities.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
And I think we did in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Well Landing and Garon Hatchett with us, And it's pretty
incredible what this thing looks like now. Man, I mean
the job that the coaching staff and the job that
you guys have done from where this thing was in
twenty four to where it is today. I look at
it as maybe a strength of the football team.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean that is that.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay for guys like us to say, Hey, this offensive line,
we're gonna now rely on them to be leaders, to
be a strength of this offense.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
That's our expectation. That's definitely our expectation.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
We always say in the line room, it starts and
finishes with us. How we play, the team will play.
What we bring a team will have that same energy.
So just knowing that we do have a strong offensive line,
knowing that we're going to be out there leaders of
the team, is really encouraging going into this next season.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Yeah, well, talk to us about the kid playing left tackle, Garin,
tell us about Cody Green.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
He's eighteen years old.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
If I came to you at the age of eighteen
and said, boom, you're starting at left tackle, what do
you think that would have meant for you?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
It would be a big, big shock for me for sure.
First of all, never played tackle before here, but it
would definitely be a big shock for me. But I
think Cody's handling it great. You can just tell how
athletic he is just out there and his natural ability.
But what's really impressed me is him wanting to get
in the playbook, wanting to learn more, wanting to ask
questions to me, Landon Drew, any of the older guys.
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He's really trying to get an understanding of what the
culture is here at the University of Washington and what
the offensive line play is. So I got nothing but
good things to say about Cody. He's really fitting with
this group and you wouldn't think he's eighteen just.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Talking to him, right, What have you noticed landing from
him so far?
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Same thing, just as maturity level has been through the roof.
If you don't see a lot of freshmen come in
and immediately just understand the language we're speaking and then
getting into the playbook like he has, you know, And
that's the testament to Switzs and Brewster as well. They've
really done a lot of good work with him, just
making sure he's caught up with us and everybody else
in the room.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
And then athletically, obviously, he just jumps off the tape.
He moves super fluid. He's an athlete, and.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
You know he's he was brought in to come get
to work immediately, and he's doing a great job so far.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah, Well, I'm I got to ask both of you
guys before you go out by John Mills, right, I
mean for two guys that play on the inside. Obviously,
First of all, they guy didn't look like he was
seventeen years old a year ago. He looks like he's
thirty years old. He looks like the kind of guy
you don't want to meet in a dark alley. By
the way, I mean he is. You guys don't remember
Jim Mora when he coached the Seahawks back in two
thousand and nine, he had a term he said, I'm
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looking for dirt bags on the offensive line, and it
didn't really go over well because the guy won like
five games. You know, if he was thirteen and three,
it would have maybe transferred a lot better. But he
looks like that kind of guy. I mean John Mills, Like,
how would you describe him landing exactly that?
Speaker 8 (34:02):
You know, you see that, you know you'll have to
check out his haircut. He just got a fresh.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Okay, So I'm not sure if I like that or not.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
I love it, Okay, you gotta love it.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
No offensive lineman, We love it. But John's personality is
just as big as he is. He's an amazing guy
to be around me. And Landon actually both live with him. Okay,
he's a lot of juice and a lot of energy
to the house. And yeah, he's just a great guy
to have on the team. Always somebody that you can
go to on your worst day, best day or whatever
and help make you smile, make you laugh.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
So is it is it just the three of you
guys in the same place the Griffin Miller?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
All right, so what's that costco run? Like? By the way, defeed,
you Hawks might not to ask mom.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Mom, Mom helps out with the what's that?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What's that grocery build?
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Are you kidding me? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
Yeah, it's uh, especially on the state nights, we all
want to cook up states. I'll get a whole cow
at the house pretty much.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Unreal.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Well, let's talk about this team and uh, what kind
of step you think they're gonna take him? Mean, it's
kind of time and it feels like you're three for
coach Fish.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
My whole thing is pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think they've done as good as they can do
given the circumstances they took over when Kinglan took off
for Alabama. But now it feels like it's time. It's
time to start beating teams like Oregon, teams like Indiana,
Penn State coming here. What is it landed about this
particular team that makes you feel like, all right, there's
a step that's going to be taken now.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Yeah, just immediately.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
As soon as new guys got here, they fitted immediately,
and there's just a different comfort level within the locker
room and within this team.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
You know, in twenty twenty.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Four, it was kind of clicks here and there and
transfers guys to State of Washington to Arizona guys, they
were all kind of clicking and we didn't match well.
And then twenty twenty five he started to make that step.
And this year I can feel a real difference within
the locker room. The guys are comfortable with each other.
Everybody wants to push the standard and work hard. And
you just see it out of practice as the energy
is much higher. Everyone seems much more confident within the
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scheme and you know, just everyone's everyone's clicking a lot
at a higher level.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, darn, Should I put my hard earned money on
the Husky football team to maybe win ten games or
more and maybe make a make a push for the
College foot All playoffs this year?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Answer that you know if I can, I think you can.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You can, you can, you can advise me, but you
can't bet on yourself.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I think I would say I would say this twenty
twenty six team is definitely one of the biggest, fastest, strongest,
most athletic teams I've been on. As well as all
the stuff that Landon was talking about. We're the close,
one of the closest teams I've ever been a part of,
and I think this is the year where we definitely
get a lot done and that we're able to go
to the distance. We always talk about our goals every
day and a leadership group with a few of the
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other players, and we're always cashioned that culture, trying to
get the young guys bought in, trying to get everybody
bought in. And it appears like right now that our
team is super bought into that one people, which is
a championship good.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I love it well. The hatch of brothers before you go.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Every time I see you, guys, you're always laughing, having
a good time, always smiling.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that is that the way it is behind the
scenes with you too. Is there ever any sibling rivalry
that kind of maybe leads to uh little animosity between
the two of you. I mean, brothers fight.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
I had a brother brother brothers fight, but we never
uh it lasts for twenty minutes and then going back
to laughing with each other, having a good time.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
We've we've gotten.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Really close ever since we started living with each other,
and ever since I've been back here at Washington And
it's a it's awesome to say I can go to
work with my best friend and brother every day.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
It's hard to have a bit bad day when you're
blessed with you know, this, this place.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Yeah, everything we got.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
So yeah, well he's an old man. Now you got
you got what he's got three years on you?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Three years and I'm a senior.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Okay, So if.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
You if you wanted to, honestly, could you whip him now?
Or does he still take you?
Speaker 8 (37:32):
I'll let him answer that question, huh.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
I mean, you know it's he's a strong guy.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I'm a strong guy.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
I think the older brother intimidation factory stick around for me.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But there you go.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Well, there's not many brothers that get a chance to
start for a team like this in a big ten man,
so soak it up, right, I mean there's no eighth
year coming.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I assume this is it, right, This is it? This
is it? This is it? All right?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Hey, good stuff? Have fun coaching the night. Maybe a
couple of full back dives with an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Nice, we'll see. Let the big boy carry the rock,
why not? I love it all right?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You guys are the best landing gear and great stuff.
Thanks for coming over, boys, appreciate it. There you bet
Land and hatchet gear and Hatchett with us on the
radio show. We're going to break a lot more to
get to live from Husky Stadium before the annual Spring
game coming up tonight right here on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
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Speaker 5 (38:32):
All right, we're back inside the Touchdown Terrace East End Zone,
getting ready for the Dogs after dark spring game coming
up broadcast at six tonight, and our next guest will
enjoy this story. So I got people coming by here
the radio show say hello, Hey, you.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Got any big name guests coming on?
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I said, well, Cam's coming on at six, and the
guy says Chancellor.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I said, no, no, that's the wrong Cam.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Cam Cleland is going to join us from the broadcast crew,
as he does right now from high above the stadium
from the radio booth.
Speaker 11 (38:59):
How are you, man, I'm great. I think I should
flip this. Let's let me interview you. You've been doing
this for a lot longer than me. Now, what are
you excited about about spring? I know you've talked about
a kid named Cody Green enough Today are we expecting
the second coming to the greatest left tackle in Husky history.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'll tell you what I'm fired up about. Man.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
There is a full bar behind me that's about to
open up, and there's also a big spread with sliders,
chicken sandwiches, JoJo's, French fries, potato salad.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean, what do you think, man, That's what I'm
fired up for?
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Come on, I mean, we had no Ryan Walters was
on the show about two hours ago and said they're
gonna be as vanilla as possible on defense.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
He's not even calling the defense tonight in the game.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
But dude, DC being number five, Derek Coleman Brusa came
by the show. Oh my god, that guy is an
absolute monster. Dude, how fired up for you? Number five?
We'll see him tonight a little bit playing inside, Walter said,
he's too big now to be on the edge. By
the way, at two ninety five, you tell me what
you expect out of this kid this year.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
I mean, this kid is and that's the other part.
And I'm thinking about what I've heard today and a
lot of the show. And here we are looking at
all these freshmen.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I'm going I.
Speaker 11 (40:04):
Remember being seventeen and getting my backside kicked all over
this field. Right here are these two freshmen and you're
talking about Brushka who I look at it and number
five and yeah, he's a big four star.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I don't know if he was a four or five star.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
That's my bad recruits four star, that's my bad recruiting
number on two four seven. Fact with the kid is
good and you look at the way he moves and
can they make an impact in the Big ten because
the Big ten is about physicality, and Cody's out there
and these youngsters and then you have Ramzack number eleven,
who's jumped off the page?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Threw in who jumps? When I say physically jumps.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Off the page?
Speaker 11 (40:40):
Watch number eleven Tonight at edge as a freshman. He
is an incredible athlete. So these young players that Coach
Fish has brought in and then they are getting reps.
And I heard you talk to the Hatchett brothers and
you ask, Okay, he's doing the right things.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
They're all doing the right things. They're in the playbook.
Speaker 11 (40:55):
This is about reps man And can we get these
guys playing early in the season, right, gonna need him
at the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Well that's the point about tonight, right, Like for his
Vanilla's they're gonna be and there's a bunch of guys
that aren't gonna play.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
The Hatchet Brothers are among them.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
How much can players tonight, can you think move up
or down the depth chart depending on their performance?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And it's a great point.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
I mean, you guys that had unbelievable springs that are
no longer with us, Finesbright, I mean you get to
see some of the guys that left.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
He jumped off the page last year.
Speaker 11 (41:24):
I think he had like seven or eight catches in
the spring, and so tonight is an opportunity in the
running back room for guys that aren't playing a certain
linebacker situation. We know about the old line, but again,
these guys, there are certain players tonight that you're gonna
see that you're gonna go, oh, wait a minute, this
guy's different. He's gonna make some contributions. And there's a
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lot of up to twenty guys that we're not seeing
tonight that we're gonna see in the fall. So they're
gonna get healthy. There's just a lot of young players
that need a lot of reps. And as much as
everybody says the spring is vanilla, it is massively competitive.
If coach Walters doesn't want to put a bunch of
stuff out there on film, but these guys want to
compete tonight.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Yeah, is there a position that maybe concerns you more
than others. I mean, Jened running Man have talked about Okay, yeah,
talk to me that room.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
No question.
Speaker 11 (42:13):
Well, first of all, you lose your top two guys.
Adam's gone and Jonah goes to the NFL. Now you
have a bunch of guys that nobody knows who's there.
We don't know what the future of Jordan Washington is.
We don't know some of these other young players that
have come in here, guys that are veterans the running
back room. If you win in college football, and you
win in the Big Ten, you run the damn ball.
It's clear as it gets you win in those line
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of scrimmage moments. You got to run the ball in
the red zone. Those critical situations for this program in
the red zone last year, not being able to score
because it could get some of those punchins that you needed.
That room is the most important room right now that
I'm gonna watch tonight.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
For this year, Well, you're gonna see something you haven't
seen in about almost fifty years, and that's a up
quarterback wearing number one.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I haven't seen it since Warren Moon. What do you
expect out of number one? Year?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Man, that's a big number to wear.
Speaker 11 (43:02):
I mean, that guy's a Hall of famer, He's a legend,
and not to say that demon can't do it.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm excited to see what he brings.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
To the game.
Speaker 11 (43:10):
I'm looking forward to see the energy. We all know
his talent I would want. Okay, this is as honest
as it gets. I want this guy to make the
next level in the big play moments, and if it
starts tonight, wonderful. But in those big games next year,
come September, in October, that's when that young man jumps
off the page, in those big throws and big play moments.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
All right, man, go get him. This is where it starts, baby,
All right. Season starts tonight. Have fun tonight Man Cam
Bailand and Tony Caster Cone will have the call for
you coming up at six o'clock from the broadcast booth.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
We're down here in the East End zone.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
You're around the area, coming by and say hello, I'll
be the guy hanging out by the buffet and the
bar by the way. Pretty easy. He got my black
up quarters up by with the Husky logo, so pretty
easy guy to find. Good looking dude, But yeah, I
mean we're gonna see tonight. Number five Derek Coleman Bruce
six ninety five, freshman to Kennedy Catholic down there in
beeriy and he is an absolute monster. Jackson had a
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chance to sit next to him and Cody Green earlier today.
I put a little video out on Twitter and Instagram
if you want.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
To check it. Out.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Yeah, it just goes to show you how big these
guys really are, that they don't look like they're eighteen
years old.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And Derek Coleman DCB just turned eighteen like four days ago, Sophy.
Speaker 10 (44:20):
This is the reason why I talk about development a
kind of you know about their half hour ago, right.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I will.
Speaker 10 (44:25):
I get it that it's so changing in so fast,
But like, if you can bring these guys in at
this young age and let them develop for three years,
and then by year three, these guys are superstars in the.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Lines, right, Like that's every thing, right, that's my name, right,
And that's the greatest thing about it is that Look,
let's say Derek Coleman Bruce Up plays this year but
maybe has some ups and downs. You're like, hey, that's fine,
but man did he flash at times? And God, by
the time this guy's a junior, he's gonna be unbelievable.
Will you better, Dan, We'll guarantee the guy's gonna be here, yeah,
when he's a junior, right, Because I want to fall
in love with these guys. It's hard though, sometimes when
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you don't know what their future look like. I mean,
Derek Coleman Brus's future may be like, now that's how
good this guy might be.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Five and seventy six. Keep an eye on five and
seventy six.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Cody Greens, the brand new freshman offensive lineman, obviously went
to Eastside Catholic, went down to matter Day for a year,
came back, and now he's a dog. So those are
two guys that we are keeping an eye on for sure. Hey,
real quick, NBA Playoffs, the Piston's looking at a crawl
back Orlando looking for the series win. They're up seventy
one sixty two after three quarters, so last chance for Detroit.
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Cavaliers are down by ten and at halftime to Toronto
as they look to close out in the Raptors. Right,
that's it for US. Tony Castor Cone Cam Cleveland Elise
Woodward have the radio call of the annual UB Spring game,
Dogs after Dark coming up next from Husky Stadium.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Our friend Huey Miller joining us on the radio program,
How are you.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Buddy, I'm doing great? Go Dogs, Yeah, go dogs.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Well look, I mean, obviously these things are getting less
and less important as the years go by, as far
as what coaches are showing. Right, we had Ryan Walters
on Hugh about an hour and a half ago, two
hours when he said, tonight's going to be as vanilla
as they can be.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
You know, we all know that. You know, a bunch
of guys aren't even playing. The Hatchet brothers who will
join us next segment are sitting out tonight. But I mean,
if you're watching this thing from the stands as a fan,
what's important to you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What are you looking for?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I think you, first of all, look at the corners.
I think the further you get from the ball. I
think the more it's like real football when when you're
scrimmaged in like this and to have lost to Carlo
Davis and Afeesian and Price sock out of forty two
corners that the NFL had on their scouting list that
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I saw, they were number one and number two in height. Yeah,
the tallest, longest armed corners in all of college football.
And you know they were able to use that to
their advantage in terms of playing single high structures where
the extra safety could be in the box. That influenced
how they could defend the run. It influenced how they
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defend the quick game because when your press coverage, a
lot of the quick game disappears. A hits route will
convert to a fade an offensive playbook, a quick out,
a five yard out route will convert to a fade,
a skinny post what's called a three cutter, and oki
a six step speed out will convert to a fade.
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And so you can really constrict the quick game of
the opponent just by being in press. And so the
Huskies were able to do that. They had some NFL
capable guys, right, and you know that that would be
I think job one is to see where we are
with the corners, not just whether that they can play,
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but can they play, press, bump and run.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Well, that's interesting. We'll keep an eye on that, not
just tonight, but throughout the year. And then, you know,
our first chance to see demand in person since since
the Organ game a year ago, right, since that big
thing over the offseason. And there was some chatter today
on social media just like and how do you think
fans will respond? And I don't think it's gonna be
a Boofest tonight at all. I mean, honestly, I didn't
even really thought about it, you know, up until I
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saw that post by the barstool guys on on on Twitter.
But what are you looking for out of number one
this year?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Man?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Honestly, Well, you mentioned Boofest. That's a possibility. I mean,
that is in play, not for tonight, because how many
season ticket holders you have forty five fifty listeners, just
pick a fifty thousand numbers. You know, if you get
five thousand to night, the five thousand you're getting tonight,
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I think would be less inclined to boo during a
spring game.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That just the we'll just.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Say that out loud, kind of weird, right, ye, right,
But I think that if you have, uh, you know,
any kind of setback. Now, the schedule lays out favorable
for Washington and and particularly for Demon Williams with respect
to him earning back the respect of his teammates and
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the fans and what have you, and somehow trying to
you know, dig out of that hole that he he
dug for himself. But if there is any kind of setback,
you know, what's Let's take like Wisconsin from a year ago,
even Michigan, Michigan. You know, they're they're a tall hat cowboy.
We get that because they're Michigan Wolverines. But the way
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Demon played in that game, you know, was so poor that,
you know, in essence you could say, in the same
manner that Sam Darnold lost the RAM game at LA,
you could say that DeMont Williams lost the Michigan game.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So I think if if you have, if he has
a game or two like that, I mean, warn Moon
got booed for two years. I've been booed, been you know,
the list of guys that have been booed in that
stadium is long, and I wouldn't be surprised if if
the sequence lays out the way I just described. Demon
Williams could hear that as well, but I don't expect
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it tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Hugh Millin's with us, all right, Hugh, uh, You've had
a chance now to watch tape all the film on
the draft picks for the Seahawks, all eight guys that
came in this year. Let's just get kind of an
overall view on this class from your perspective after breaking
the whole thing down.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, I think that most dire need, the most urgent
need was halfback, obviously, and I think that they got
a guy in Jedarian Price that fits the spot where
they were selecting at thirty two. So so I think
you know you've got sources, I've got sources. I really
believe that the top three guys that they that they wanted,
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that they targeted, they believed they were going to get
those guys. They they you know, in terms of Price,
Clark and Neil, those guys now they didn't. They are
not going to tell us that before the draft, right
because they lose their jobs. But you got twenty eight
years of us covering the draft. You learn some trust
with these guys. You know, they don't say that every year.
In fact, they only say it maybe ten one out
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of ten years, Like, hey, this draft unfolded the way
we thought of what we thought we were going to
be able to get Price, Bud Clark and Julian Neil
and so I take them at their word. I think
that that's that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Price.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The only you know, minor hiccup if you will, on
the plan was that they wanted to draft, you know,
trade back to maybe thirty five, thirty eight, just you
know a handful of spots back from thirty two and
still get Jadari and Price. But they got the guys
they want. They needed the half back. There's there's no
part was way, shape or form, or any part of
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me that thinks that that they are equipped at the
running back position in the absence of Jenarian Price, if
you want to say, Emmanuel Wilson and a.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Whomever.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
There's just no way that that halfback room was befitting
a Super Bowl champion, no doubt. Well, they had to
upgrade that one.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Hundred percent, and they got the best guy available by
a large margin. I think the next running back that
was taken was that the kid from Indiana. I think
that went third overall among running backs. I may be
wrong about that, but whoever that third running back was
that was draft and went like fifty spots later, So
they would have they would have been dropping down in talent,
at least by NFL draft evaluators. You know, perspectives a
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pretty good margin. So I'm totally with you. But Sunny
Dike's was on the show a few days ago. We
talked about Bud Clark, and you know, look, you mentioned
the media the night he was drafted. I've playedel, I've
played corner, I've played safety, uh and a buck eighty eight.
I think a lot of us felt like, hey, where's
this guy gonna play? Well, Sonny Dike says he's a
safety at the next level. I mean, is that what
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you see it? Do you see a free safety or
do you see a box safety?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I I try and say, okay, is there a way
I can thread the needle where where Sonny Dike's is
right and Mike McDonald's right. Because the second thing out
of Mike McDonald's mouth, uh, and it was conspicuous to
me on the night that he drafted Bud Clark is
that he can play nickel. So and and by the way,
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if you said, Okay, you've gotta you gotta fa you
gotta favor one or the other. Look, I might give
Sonny Dikes all the latitude you could ever give a
guy for his vision of how tc US defense is
going to play. But I'm gonna I'm gonna default to
Mike McDonald on the evaluation of Bud Clark about whether
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or not he can be a nickel. So am I
making myself clear? I think he's a nickel.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Want to know why I.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Think he's a nickel because Mike McDonald says he's a nickel, right,
And I've watched him and look his his traits. You know,
he's either you know, he's either a kind of big
corner actually he's really kind of corner size. At under
one ninety that's not even a big corner. He is
a corner sized guy. But but guess what, that's the
same stuff we were saying about Devin Witherspoon, Like, wait
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a minute this. You know, you know he's like one
hundred and eighty pounds. How can he play nickel? Well,
you know what, if you have the right athleticism and
you can snap your hips and you know, and and
the strength coach says, hey, dude, this guy can power
clean three forty five. It's like, oh, okay, you know
power clean is converting strength over time, and and you
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know you got to be able to snap your hips
to be able to do that. And we see that
Devin Witherspoon at at a small size, is able to
pack up big punch. And so if Mike McDonald believes
he can do that, look, I've seen. I took the
tape and every single down of Cover one that TCU
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played Cover one is man to man. I'm just saying, hey,
did TCU say we want Bud Clark to be the
post safety just roaming center field and reacting to what
he sees like Earl Thomas? Or are they gonna put
him in man to man? And I was almost through
the entire tape and I said, they haven't put this
guy in the post safety one time. And then finally
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they did. Finally they did one snap, so they TCU
believed in his man and man skills. Mike McDonald believes
in his man and man skills. He runs a four
to four to one, which is in the ninety percentile
plus for safety, so he's got the traits even though
he's lean, he's got the traits to cover. And Mike
McDonald knows exactly how that vision is. So yeah, no,
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I feel good about Bud Clark. Why wouldn't I?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, don't you.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Captain fifteen interceptions? Mike McDonald thinks he can play the
position he wants.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
He's got the vision. Yeah, okay, what about the kid
from Iowa, the right guard? What about him? Does he
have a chance to supply or do you think?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Uh, that's an interesting take because that you know, when
you take a guy on the third day, you're saying, Okay,
why isn't he a first rounder? He was a first
team All American. He was the left guard on the
Joe Moore winning offensive line, which, as we know is
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is the ward given to the best offensive line. The
dude was a freaking not good. He was a great
player for Iowa. Why was he a third day guy? Well,
you know, it's a little bit like Olua Timmy. You know,
when the NFL looks at a guy who is that productive.
When I mean productive, you say, wait a minute, he
didn't score touchdowns. He's an offensive guard. Productive, mean, he's
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the first team All American ap All American. I mean,
you get your you get your photo hung all over
the University of Washington if you you know reach that,
I mean I didn't, you know, I respect those who
did everyone. So that's a big deal. First team All American.
But of all that, I think it was one hundred
and twenty eight, one hundred and twenty nine guys that
ran at the combine. His his eighteen and a half
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miles per hour is the slowest out of one hundred
and twenty nine. All of his measurables. You know, he's
got the shortest arms and the smallest hands. They're like,
there's some measurable problems with him in the eyes of
the NFL. That that that allowed him to fall to
the fifth round. And so this is you know, sometimes
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it's the opposite. In fact, often it's the opposite. You say, wow,
this guy's got you know, he's a high cut, beautiful
looking athlete. Look at how he tests, what have you.
The football didn't really play out, but but look at
the the athleticism you have. Let's let's uh, let's bet
on his athleticism is traits. And that happens all up
and down the draft. This is the opposite. This is
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wait a minute, the guy was a great player, but
the traits are are really concerning. That's why it falls
to the fifth round. As for Anthony Bradford, you know
my feeling about him.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm not alone.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'm not And yes, I I can get up on
a whiteboard and I can draw the freaking outside zone.
I was there with Alex Gibbs in the meeting when
he when he installed that damn thing. I understand the
outside zone. And so uh so when I when I
when I say that that, uh, Anthony Bradford has been
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the weakest uh of the eleven guys that start on
the offense. I I'll stand on that.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah, And somebody's got to be the way, right, there's
got to be a number eleven exactly out of eleven guys, right.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Like yes, yes, and and you know what, I can
acknowledge that he improved.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But here's the question to you about Bradford. Okay, so
if we if we just take that approach, like out
of eleven guys, somebody has to be the weakest, Like
you have the best eleven offensive players in the NFL
playing for what offense, but the eleventh guy is going
to be the worst of that group. How bad is
he compared to other starting right guards in the NFL
in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, first of all, yeah, just sender to score that point.
If you said, gun to the head, any logically thinking person,
let's say a real football expert that you trust, and
he said, tell me the worst player on the nineteen
eighty five Chicago Bears defense. Right now, that's the greatest
defense I've ever seen in fifty well over fifty years
watching football. But they had to have the weakest, right Like,
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if you were thinking, hey, are we going to draft,
is there anybody that we we can draft or replace
maybe get a little better than the eighty five Bears,
So of course there's gonna be the weakest if if
you know, I believe it's Anthony Bradford and well, Piet
the last three years he's he's in the bottom. You know,
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every single year he's with you know, you know, there's
ninety four qualifiers and he's eighty ninth or there, there's
eighty seven qualify fires and he's qualifiers in he's eighty third.
Like it's it's so yeah, year after year. But if
you wanted to argue against me, say, well, what was
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was the best month or six weeks, not the not
the NFC Championship game. But but you know, you know,
I think I think that there's been a slight improvement.
And hey, the offensive line as a unit were able
to do what they did with Canine running behind it,
so that that's not that's a point not to be dismissed.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Hey, Hugh, I want to get to the Rams situation
in a minute, and just getting to react to some
stuff that's come out since the weekend. Uh, talk to
us about Dante Fowler junior. Uh, there's some interest by
the Seahawks apparently in him.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
What do you what do you make of it?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I think it's very interesting what Mike McDonald is able
to do with veteran cast off defensive ends. Go back
to twenty twenty three is last year Baltimore. The Ravens
led the NFL in most sacks. Who were their defensive
ends Kyle van Noy and Jadeveon Clowney. Both of them
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were on the wrong side of thirty. Both of them
were at least on their fifth team. You don't think
of Jadeveon Clowney as a journeyman because he was the
first overall, and he has all that athleticism, and of
course he as a Seahawk. You know, we know Jadeveon Clowney.
But the facts are the facts. If you've been on
five plus teams by the age of thirty, you're a journeyman.
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And yet at the most critical positions for trying to
create sacks defensive ends, they just had average aging journeymen
with the Ravens. What did they have last year? What
are the Seahawks? Well, you had Nuosu. He's not a journeyman.
He's only been on two teams, but you know, and
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DeMarcus Lawrence, he's not a journeyman. He's only been on
two teams, but he's thirty three before. So so I
think that Mike McDonald, that's the keep the theme that
I keep running back to. Mike McDonald has a vision
of what NFL defense should look like. And always bet
on Mike McDonald until we we we start losing, right
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because and so so he has a vision for older guys,
cast off veteran guys that that that maybe at once
we're thought to have some some real good athleticism, he
can get a little bit more out of those guys.
So yeah, if if uh, if the Seax signed one
of these guys, uh, then and and we're talking in
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foallor well, well, was he he was a top five pick?
Was he a third overall?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, third overall fifteen draft? The first thought I had
is that that Luke Joco draft no. Is two years
later but third overall. Yeah, missed his rookie year, didn't
play as a rookie for that.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So he he fits the profile of what he's been
able to do with great success at the Ravens and
great success with the Seahawks. In my opinion, I see
filers sign with them, I'm like, there you go. Yeah,
Mike mack you you and your vision. You just you
did and and I'm betting that you'll make it happen.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I'm it doesn't feel like one of these roll your
eyes Pete Carroll reclamation projects again from the twenty thirteen
NFL Draft. Maybe because Mike McDonald hasn't gone through those
guys enough and not have them perform for us to
roll our eyes the way we did. I mean it
was remember it was joke Old Dion, Jordan, ziggy On,
Barcavius Mingo, DJ Flucker, Sheldon Richard said, Eddie Lacy was
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a part of that draft.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So you know, look, when you're going off, when you're
coming off for.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
A super Bowl, you get a lot of a lot
of a lot of better for the doubt.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Don't you Yeah, coming off the Super Bowl. But that's
that's that's a general proposition. I'm saying specifically, what am
I what are we narrowing this in this particular part
of the conversation. We're narrowing to defensive ends that are
older than thirty there were once thought to be you know,
at least that the very least have elite traits. And
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what what can Mike McDonald do, Well, you know what
Mike McDonald's does. We've just been listing the precedent of
Mike McDonald taking those guys and being able to put
forth a productive defense that far belies what the market
thought was there, Like like Fowler, if he's available now
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because the rest of the league doesn't value him as
into a great deal, right that that can just be deduced.
So now Mike McDonald says, Okay, you thirty one other teams,
you don't see what I see, And I'll go with
what Mike McDonald sees because he's proven it.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, so before you go, and I'm totally with you
on all that. By the way, he's just a massive
amount of trust with that guy. The ty Simpson thing,
you know, we all saw mcvay's reaction when they drafted him.
Then there's the stories that come out that they didn't
meet ty Simpson said that on draft day. Then ty
Simpson comes out and says, well, I actually did meet
with them. We had an hour's long meeting before the draft.
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Then the story comes out that maybe McVeigh was, you know,
being coy because you wanted to respect Matthew Stafford. Then
some folks are arguing that ty Simpson's lying about the
meeting you had with Sean McVay.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I mean, what do you what do you make of
all this?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Man, Well, there's a lot of things for them. Really,
there's no theory of everything that makes sense to me,
because the theory of everything would take all the ensemble
effacts that you just said, and then they would be
woven together to say, Okay, this is what happened. And
I haven't been able to weave that together. But I
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do prioritize some of those facts, and I'll tell you
one that I really prioritize. I don't. I do not
believe in any way that Sean McVay is is going
to be handed a successor to Matthew Stafford that he
has not approved of, Right, that they're just that McVay
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has not approved of. Correct that Sean McVay sean like,
there's no there's no like dissension. This is not like
Tim Ruskill, you know, only transitioning Steve Hutchinson and Mike
Holmgren losing it like like that. There's no way that
they are taking Sean McVay and saying this is who
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your quarterback has to be. Now what what the reason
why I say, there's no theory of everything? It doesn't
make sense to me that Ty Simps, if you're gonna
move off of Jared Goff, who had already been to
two Pro Bowls. This is the Rams number one overall
pick two Pro Bowls, had had two seasons looking up
Dave By, they go two seasons over forty six hundred yards,
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had taken the Rams to the Super Bowl. And then
you're gonna take Jared Goff and not one but two
number ones to move him to get the guy that
you really want and that happens to be the person
of Matthew Stafford. Stafford comes in the building, you win
a Super Bowl with him. What did Matthew Stafford provide
for the rams that John McVeigh looked and said, Jared
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Goff can't. Well, there's a special quality to Stafford in
terms of like his creativity, the arm angle most especially
the hand cannon that he can just make throws down
the field and he can shove it into mailboxes from
forty yards. And we saw that last year he was
an MVP. So it doesn't make sense to me that
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he would then say, Okay, that's that's the traits that
we went hunting for that GoF could not supply, and
then now we're going to go Ty Simpson, who is
like an athletics version of Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make
a lot of sense to me, but no part of
me is buying the idea. Here's two things that I
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think are absurd. That Sean McVeigh is not is not
on board with the successor to Matthew Stafford, and that
somehow they're gonna do this as a favor. That they
told Ty Simpson that he was gonna be a first
round draft pick, and then when it looked like he
wouldn't be well to kind of say face with the dad,
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We'll just draft Tye Simpson in the first round. That
that is the That's as nonsensical as ye as any
proposition I could imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Well, yeah, right, Jared got forty six hundred yards, fifty
four touchdowns and back to back years with Detroit. Landon
Hatchet Garren Hatchett, the two of them here, we're gonna
join us next on the year. We'll let you go
enjoy your Friday and we'll talk on Monday.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Man, appreciate it. Go dogs, all right, you got it,
Go dogs.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Landon Hatchett, Garret Hatchett, the Hatchet Brothers, I'm gonna call
him the hatchet Men, will join next as we continue
to get ready for Dogs After Dark at six.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Right here on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Now back to Sofie and Dick Gone your home for
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Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, we are getting ready for the annual Dogs After
Dart game coming up tonight at six thirty. Broadcast with
Tony and Cam and Elise at six PM and two
guys that look like they're gonna be having some fun tonight,
the Hatchet Brothers, Landing Gear and are with us on
the radio show. And you guys are gonna sit this
one out tonight, just nursing some some Nixon bruises and
(23:29):
things like that. Yes, sir, but tell us what you're
doing tonight. If you're not out there playing, what's the
role for you guys tonight, what.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Are you doing?
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Just trying to help the boys out anyway we can
give him any coaching points he can, and also just
bring that energy, bring that juice. Always trying to make
sure that everybody's hyped up on the sideline, not letting
it get too quiet in here.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, do we need to actually distinguish which one's talking?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like this isn't TV right so we can see you.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Do we sound Do we sound too much alike?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
This is that was Landing by the way, this one's Garret. Okay,
there you go, there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I mean, I'm gonna just keep reminding people because I
do think you sound similar.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I mean you don't look like each other really at all,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I mean kind of this guy is a little how
would you describe Landing? Oh wait, your brother if you
if you had to say, hey, my brother is gonna
come out with us tonight. You've never met him, but
keep an eye out for a guy that looks like dot.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
How would you describe your brother Landon? Big?
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Muscular, Yeah, nice beard okay, great flowing okay, handsome guy,
handsome guy.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Okay, all right? How about how about this guy? Howbout Garren?
How would you describe him to?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Somebody like that?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
A little not as nice beard as me?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But probably yeah, here you go.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Do you have a hat on or hat off?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Probably had on? Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
Head on if he takes it off, might be a
little less hair than me.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But I would.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Say we're pretty similar.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Well, but here's the thing I think people don't realize.
And if I'm wrong about this, correct me. Hearing this
year seventh hearing college football? Sure, okay, seven years in
college football, because you started in twenty twenty. There's been
some injuries, to transfer, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
What's that been like? What's seven years in college been
like for you?
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Men?
Speaker 7 (25:13):
It's been interesting.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
It's been nothing but fun.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Though I would like to say I have one of
the most unique careers just based off of coming in
here during COVID, having multiple coaching changes early on, transferring
to another school, coming back, multiple different injuries. So that's
kind of how we ended up at seven years. But
I've had an amazing time and I've got to see
the landscape of college football change more than a lot
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of people have in their playing careers. From no nil
no transfer portal to nil transfer portal everything. It's been
nothing but fun but crazy for sure.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Well there's no doubt it's crazy, and people have described
Some people have described the current state of college football
as a disaster, the other people have described it as
a step in the right direction for you guys, for sure,
for the players. But is it better? Honestly, is it
better now from a player active than it was when
you showed up in twenty.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
It's just different.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Back then.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
We were all here just for the love of the game,
and that's why a lot of us are still here,
just because we love playing football and playing with our brothers.
But there is that added benefit to, you know, getting
the NIO money. So I would definitely say it's different.
I wouldn't say one was better than the other. Like
I keep saying it is nice to get the NIO
money and I do think the players do deserve it.
But yeah, it's different, but it either way. Both both
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errors were very fun to play in and good player
friendly for sure.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Well that's Garren, this is landing over here, Highland. Thanks
for being a part of the interview. How about you,
I mean, this is not what your fourth year in
college football on you. I mean, just like him, you've
noticed a lot of change since you first showed up
out of high school.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Yeah, but you know, it's got to stick it out
with with my brother for a good chunk of it,
which has been awesome. You know, been lucky enough to
stick around you dub for all four years. It's been
a great, great program, been awesome for me. I love
it with all my heart. You know, like you said,
it'saw a lot of change. Obviously came in with the Boar,
had a great season there, and then Fish came in.
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We had a little bumpy start in twenty twenty four,
and then last year was last year was a Saw season,
not what we wanted. But we're really excited for this
year and I think this spring game is gonna be
the first look at the talent that we got on
this team.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
What was it like when he left? When Garon took
off to go to Oklahoma? Where you where you were
you pissed? Were you like? What are you doing? Man?
You're leaving being behind? I was pissed you left because
he's a good player. I don't like leaving. I like
losing good players.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I sometimes I think I think players lose sight of
that that the fans are mad at you for transferring
because you're a good player. If you're stunk, nobody would
give a damn, like, hey, get rid of the guy,
he's a bum.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
But he was a solid player for US obviously in
twenty twenty three with Calan, A lot of a lot
of action on that on that on that team.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
When he left, What was that like for you? For
that one years gone?
Speaker 9 (27:48):
I definitely wasn't mad at him. You know, he's he's
had a different college experience than I have. He came
in during COVID, you know, committed under Peterson. Right the
right after he committed, Peterson called him said, Yo, I'm
not gonna coach anymore. Then he had Lake and then
Tobor so he's been through three coaches really already and
then going into a fourth I totally understand why you'd
want to explore a different option, you know, just got
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done with his fourth season here and wanted to try
something new, you know, and then he obviously ended up
coming back to the light side.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
But yeah, yeah, I was. I was happy for.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Him to be able to do do what he wanted
to do and experience what he wanted to experience, and
you know, all all things led back.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It kind of gearan feels like it didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, from maybe the media's perspective, I know from your perspective,
it feels totally different.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
For me, I recognized that I did leave, but it almost,
like you said, almost, it feels like it didn't happen.
I feel like I was back here so fast. My
one year at Oklahoma, I was out the whole season
with an injury. So that's probably part of the reason
why it didn't feel like it happened, because when I
was playing, I was here, and then I got back
here right into playing again off of that injury. So uh,
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I'm definitely glad that I experienced it, got it, experience
something new, made some lifelong friendships down there, got a
lot of family down there, in the area, so got
to spend.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Some time with them.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
But I'm glad to be back here playing with Lando,
especially for my last year of football here.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Well, the Hatchet Boys, they're now the hatchet Men, by
the way, with us on the radio show, Landing and
Garon Hatchett, they'd be sitting out the spring game tonight,
but both back in the fall obviously for fall camp.
Talk about the transition guys with this offensive line, because
you were a part Garan, as we said, of that
great Joe Moore Joe Moore Award winning excuse me, offensive
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line in twenty three with Roger and Troy and Parker
and all those guys, and then everything got blown to
hell in twenty twenty four. So what have you noticed
about the highest of highs, maybe the lowest of lows
and now bouncing back up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, with that group for sure.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
No, it's been absolutely awesome just to get to see
this group working as hard as we can. Coach Switzer
has been doing everything he can to make sure the
culture in the room is getting back to where it
used to be and having older guys in the room
like me and Landon and a couple of the other
guys who got to experience against that twenty twenty three
team and just know what the standard is here for
offensive line play, just to be able to implement that back.
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And I think last year we took great steps forward.
We had a great o line room in general, but
just guys like John and Drew and Carver who really
came in here and helped us a lot bring that
culture back to where it needs to be. And we're
just taking steps every single day.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
And you were a freshman on that team twenty twenty three,
so you saw what these guys were all about. Then
twenty twenty four. Honestly I got to ask both you guys,
and Landing will start with you, how big of a
mess was that in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
And it should have been a mess.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Everybody left, for God's sake, the whole thing got blown
to bit saying new guys all over the place, Every
offensive starter is gone, including the entire line. How big
of a mess was that to deal with in twenty four?
Speaker 8 (30:44):
You know?
Speaker 9 (30:45):
For what it was, I think we actually ended up
having a doing a pretty good job. And shout out
to you know, Fish and at the time BC and
Switch for putting it together. But you know, I said
an interview before we came together for the first time,
that's a complete offensive line group in twenty twenty four
in June, and we had two months of summer workouts
and then camp to kind of bond as a unit.
So for what we were given in the in the
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you know, what we were dealt, I think we actually
ended up doing a pretty good job. Obviously, it wasn't
ideal for us to kind of be mitched, you know,
mix and match thoughn guys in places that they haven't
been in before and trying to just make it work.
But you know, the guys all put their heads down,
and that's always been the culture of a U doub
offensive line room is no matter what you got, you,
you know, you take pride in making the most of
your situation and taking advantage of your opportunities.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
And I think we did in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Well Landing and Garon Hatchett with us, And it's pretty
incredible what this thing looks like now. Man, I mean
the job that the coaching staff and the job that
you guys have done from where this thing was in
twenty four to where it is today. I look at
it as maybe a strength of the football team.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean that is that.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay for guys like us to say, Hey, this offensive line,
we're gonna now rely on them to be leaders, to
be a strength of this offense.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
That's our expectation. That's definitely our expectation.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
We always say in the line room, it starts and
finishes with us. How we play, the team will play.
What we bring a team will have that same energy.
So just knowing that we do have a strong offensive line,
knowing that we're going to be out there leaders of
the team, is really encouraging going into this next season.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Yeah, well, talk to us about the kid playing left tackle, Garin,
tell us about Cody Green.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
He's eighteen years old.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
If I came to you at the age of eighteen
and said, boom, you're starting at left tackle, what do
you think that would have meant for you?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
It would be a big, big shock for me for sure.
First of all, never played tackle before here, but it
would definitely be a big shock for me. But I
think Cody's handling it great. You can just tell how
athletic he is just out there and his natural ability.
But what's really impressed me is him wanting to get
in the playbook, wanting to learn more, wanting to ask
questions to me, Landon Drew, any of the older guys.
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He's really trying to get an understanding of what the
culture is here at the University of Washington and what
the offensive line play is. So I got nothing but
good things to say about Cody. He's really fitting with
this group and you wouldn't think he's eighteen just.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Talking to him, right, What have you noticed landing from
him so far?
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Same thing, just as maturity level has been through the roof.
If you don't see a lot of freshmen come in
and immediately just understand the language we're speaking and then
getting into the playbook like he has, you know, And
that's the testament to Switzs and Brewster as well. They've
really done a lot of good work with him, just
making sure he's caught up with us and everybody else
in the room.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
And then athletically, obviously, he just jumps off the tape.
He moves super fluid. He's an athlete, and.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
You know he's he was brought in to come get
to work immediately, and he's doing a great job so far.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah, Well, I'm I got to ask both of you
guys before you go out by John Mills, right, I
mean for two guys that play on the inside. Obviously,
First of all, they guy didn't look like he was
seventeen years old a year ago. He looks like he's
thirty years old. He looks like the kind of guy
you don't want to meet in a dark alley. By
the way, I mean he is. You guys don't remember
Jim Mora when he coached the Seahawks back in two
thousand and nine, he had a term he said, I'm
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looking for dirt bags on the offensive line, and it
didn't really go over well because the guy won like
five games. You know, if he was thirteen and three,
it would have maybe transferred a lot better. But he
looks like that kind of guy. I mean John Mills, Like,
how would you describe him landing exactly that?
Speaker 8 (34:02):
You know, you see that, you know you'll have to
check out his haircut. He just got a fresh.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Okay, So I'm not sure if I like that or not.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
I love it, Okay, you gotta love it.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
No offensive lineman, We love it. But John's personality is
just as big as he is. He's an amazing guy
to be around me. And Landon actually both live with him. Okay,
he's a lot of juice and a lot of energy
to the house. And yeah, he's just a great guy
to have on the team. Always somebody that you can
go to on your worst day, best day or whatever
and help make you smile, make you laugh.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
So is it is it just the three of you
guys in the same place the Griffin Miller?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
All right, so what's that costco run? Like? By the way, defeed,
you Hawks might not to ask mom.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Mom, Mom helps out with the what's that?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What's that grocery build?
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Are you kidding me? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
Yeah, it's uh, especially on the state nights, we all
want to cook up states. I'll get a whole cow
at the house pretty much.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Unreal.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Well, let's talk about this team and uh, what kind
of step you think they're gonna take him? Mean, it's
kind of time and it feels like you're three for
coach Fish.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
My whole thing is pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think they've done as good as they can do
given the circumstances they took over when Kinglan took off
for Alabama. But now it feels like it's time. It's
time to start beating teams like Oregon, teams like Indiana,
Penn State coming here. What is it landed about this
particular team that makes you feel like, all right, there's
a step that's going to be taken now.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Yeah, just immediately.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
As soon as new guys got here, they fitted immediately,
and there's just a different comfort level within the locker
room and within this team.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
You know, in twenty twenty.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Four, it was kind of clicks here and there and
transfers guys to State of Washington to Arizona guys, they
were all kind of clicking and we didn't match well.
And then twenty twenty five he started to make that step.
And this year I can feel a real difference within
the locker room. The guys are comfortable with each other.
Everybody wants to push the standard and work hard. And
you just see it out of practice as the energy
is much higher. Everyone seems much more confident within the
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scheme and you know, just everyone's everyone's clicking a lot
at a higher level.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, darn, Should I put my hard earned money on
the Husky football team to maybe win ten games or
more and maybe make a make a push for the
College foot All playoffs this year?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Answer that you know if I can, I think you can.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You can, you can, you can advise me, but you
can't bet on yourself.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I think I would say I would say this twenty
twenty six team is definitely one of the biggest, fastest, strongest,
most athletic teams I've been on. As well as all
the stuff that Landon was talking about. We're the close,
one of the closest teams I've ever been a part of,
and I think this is the year where we definitely
get a lot done and that we're able to go
to the distance. We always talk about our goals every
day and a leadership group with a few of the
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other players, and we're always cashioned that culture, trying to
get the young guys bought in, trying to get everybody
bought in. And it appears like right now that our
team is super bought into that one people, which is
a championship good.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I love it well. The hatch of brothers before you go.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Every time I see you, guys, you're always laughing, having
a good time, always smiling.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that is that the way it is behind the
scenes with you too. Is there ever any sibling rivalry
that kind of maybe leads to uh little animosity between
the two of you. I mean, brothers fight.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
I had a brother brother brothers fight, but we never
uh it lasts for twenty minutes and then going back
to laughing with each other, having a good time.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
We've we've gotten.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Really close ever since we started living with each other,
and ever since I've been back here at Washington And
it's a it's awesome to say I can go to
work with my best friend and brother every day.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
It's hard to have a bit bad day when you're
blessed with you know, this, this place.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Yeah, everything we got.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
So yeah, well he's an old man. Now you got
you got what he's got three years on you?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Three years and I'm a senior.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Okay, So if.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
You if you wanted to, honestly, could you whip him now?
Or does he still take you?
Speaker 8 (37:32):
I'll let him answer that question, huh.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
I mean, you know it's he's a strong guy.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I'm a strong guy.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
I think the older brother intimidation factory stick around for me.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But there you go.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Well, there's not many brothers that get a chance to
start for a team like this in a big ten man,
so soak it up, right, I mean there's no eighth
year coming.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I assume this is it, right, This is it? This
is it? This is it? All right?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Hey, good stuff? Have fun coaching the night. Maybe a
couple of full back dives with an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Nice, we'll see. Let the big boy carry the rock,
why not? I love it all right?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You guys are the best landing gear and great stuff.
Thanks for coming over, boys, appreciate it. There you bet
Land and hatchet gear and Hatchett with us on the
radio show. We're going to break a lot more to
get to live from Husky Stadium before the annual Spring
game coming up tonight right here on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
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Speaker 5 (38:32):
All right, we're back inside the Touchdown Terrace East End Zone,
getting ready for the Dogs after dark spring game coming
up broadcast at six tonight, and our next guest will
enjoy this story. So I got people coming by here
the radio show say hello, Hey, you.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Got any big name guests coming on?
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I said, well, Cam's coming on at six, and the
guy says Chancellor.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I said, no, no, that's the wrong Cam.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Cam Cleland is going to join us from the broadcast crew,
as he does right now from high above the stadium
from the radio booth.
Speaker 11 (38:59):
How are you, man, I'm great. I think I should
flip this. Let's let me interview you. You've been doing
this for a lot longer than me. Now, what are
you excited about about spring? I know you've talked about
a kid named Cody Green enough Today are we expecting
the second coming to the greatest left tackle in Husky history.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'll tell you what I'm fired up about. Man.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
There is a full bar behind me that's about to
open up, and there's also a big spread with sliders,
chicken sandwiches, JoJo's, French fries, potato salad.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean, what do you think, man, That's what I'm
fired up for?
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Come on, I mean, we had no Ryan Walters was
on the show about two hours ago and said they're
gonna be as vanilla as possible on defense.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
He's not even calling the defense tonight in the game.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
But dude, DC being number five, Derek Coleman Brusa came
by the show. Oh my god, that guy is an
absolute monster. Dude, how fired up for you? Number five?
We'll see him tonight a little bit playing inside, Walter said,
he's too big now to be on the edge. By
the way, at two ninety five, you tell me what
you expect out of this kid this year.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
I mean, this kid is and that's the other part.
And I'm thinking about what I've heard today and a
lot of the show. And here we are looking at
all these freshmen.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I'm going I.
Speaker 11 (40:04):
Remember being seventeen and getting my backside kicked all over
this field. Right here are these two freshmen and you're
talking about Brushka who I look at it and number
five and yeah, he's a big four star.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I don't know if he was a four or five star.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
That's my bad recruits four star, that's my bad recruiting
number on two four seven. Fact with the kid is
good and you look at the way he moves and
can they make an impact in the Big ten because
the Big ten is about physicality, and Cody's out there
and these youngsters and then you have Ramzack number eleven,
who's jumped off the page?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Threw in who jumps? When I say physically jumps.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Off the page?
Speaker 11 (40:40):
Watch number eleven Tonight at edge as a freshman. He
is an incredible athlete. So these young players that Coach
Fish has brought in and then they are getting reps.
And I heard you talk to the Hatchett brothers and
you ask, Okay, he's doing the right things.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
They're all doing the right things. They're in the playbook.
Speaker 11 (40:55):
This is about reps man And can we get these
guys playing early in the season, right, gonna need him
at the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Well that's the point about tonight, right, Like for his
Vanilla's they're gonna be and there's a bunch of guys
that aren't gonna play.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
The Hatchet Brothers are among them.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
How much can players tonight, can you think move up
or down the depth chart depending on their performance?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And it's a great point.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
I mean, you guys that had unbelievable springs that are
no longer with us, Finesbright, I mean you get to
see some of the guys that left.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
He jumped off the page last year.
Speaker 11 (41:24):
I think he had like seven or eight catches in
the spring, and so tonight is an opportunity in the
running back room for guys that aren't playing a certain
linebacker situation. We know about the old line, but again,
these guys, there are certain players tonight that you're gonna
see that you're gonna go, oh, wait a minute, this
guy's different. He's gonna make some contributions. And there's a
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lot of up to twenty guys that we're not seeing
tonight that we're gonna see in the fall. So they're
gonna get healthy. There's just a lot of young players
that need a lot of reps. And as much as
everybody says the spring is vanilla, it is massively competitive.
If coach Walters doesn't want to put a bunch of
stuff out there on film, but these guys want to
compete tonight.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Yeah, is there a position that maybe concerns you more
than others. I mean, Jened running Man have talked about Okay, yeah,
talk to me that room.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
No question.
Speaker 11 (42:13):
Well, first of all, you lose your top two guys.
Adam's gone and Jonah goes to the NFL. Now you
have a bunch of guys that nobody knows who's there.
We don't know what the future of Jordan Washington is.
We don't know some of these other young players that
have come in here, guys that are veterans the running
back room. If you win in college football, and you
win in the Big Ten, you run the damn ball.
It's clear as it gets you win in those line
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of scrimmage moments. You got to run the ball in
the red zone. Those critical situations for this program in
the red zone last year, not being able to score
because it could get some of those punchins that you needed.
That room is the most important room right now that
I'm gonna watch tonight.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
For this year, Well, you're gonna see something you haven't
seen in about almost fifty years, and that's a up
quarterback wearing number one.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I haven't seen it since Warren Moon. What do you
expect out of number one? Year?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Man, that's a big number to wear.
Speaker 11 (43:02):
I mean, that guy's a Hall of famer, He's a legend,
and not to say that demon can't do it.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm excited to see what he brings.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
To the game.
Speaker 11 (43:10):
I'm looking forward to see the energy. We all know
his talent I would want. Okay, this is as honest
as it gets. I want this guy to make the
next level in the big play moments, and if it
starts tonight, wonderful. But in those big games next year,
come September, in October, that's when that young man jumps
off the page, in those big throws and big play moments.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
All right, man, go get him. This is where it starts, baby,
All right. Season starts tonight. Have fun tonight Man Cam
Bailand and Tony Caster Cone will have the call for
you coming up at six o'clock from the broadcast booth.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
We're down here in the East End zone.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
You're around the area, coming by and say hello, I'll
be the guy hanging out by the buffet and the
bar by the way. Pretty easy. He got my black
up quarters up by with the Husky logo, so pretty
easy guy to find. Good looking dude, But yeah, I
mean we're gonna see tonight. Number five Derek Coleman Bruce
six ninety five, freshman to Kennedy Catholic down there in
beeriy and he is an absolute monster. Jackson had a
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chance to sit next to him and Cody Green earlier today.
I put a little video out on Twitter and Instagram
if you want.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
To check it. Out.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Yeah, it just goes to show you how big these
guys really are, that they don't look like they're eighteen
years old.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And Derek Coleman DCB just turned eighteen like four days ago, Sophy.
Speaker 10 (44:20):
This is the reason why I talk about development a
kind of you know about their half hour ago, right.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I will.
Speaker 10 (44:25):
I get it that it's so changing in so fast,
But like, if you can bring these guys in at
this young age and let them develop for three years,
and then by year three, these guys are superstars in the.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Lines, right, Like that's every thing, right, that's my name, right,
And that's the greatest thing about it is that Look,
let's say Derek Coleman Bruce Up plays this year but
maybe has some ups and downs. You're like, hey, that's fine,
but man did he flash at times? And God, by
the time this guy's a junior, he's gonna be unbelievable.
Will you better, Dan, We'll guarantee the guy's gonna be here, yeah,
when he's a junior, right, Because I want to fall
in love with these guys. It's hard though, sometimes when
(44:58):
you don't know what their future look like. I mean,
Derek Coleman Brus's future may be like, now that's how
good this guy might be.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Five and seventy six. Keep an eye on five and
seventy six.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Cody Greens, the brand new freshman offensive lineman, obviously went
to Eastside Catholic, went down to matter Day for a year,
came back, and now he's a dog. So those are
two guys that we are keeping an eye on for sure. Hey,
real quick, NBA Playoffs, the Piston's looking at a crawl
back Orlando looking for the series win. They're up seventy
one sixty two after three quarters, so last chance for Detroit.
(45:29):
Cavaliers are down by ten and at halftime to Toronto
as they look to close out in the Raptors. Right,
that's it for US. Tony Castor Cone Cam Cleveland Elise
Woodward have the radio call of the annual UB Spring game,
Dogs after Dark coming up next from Husky Stadium.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Bye
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