May 4, 2026 • 31 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about the receiving abilities of Seahawks first round pick Jadarian Price, plus Jalen Milroe’s use on offense and the interest in Dante Fowler, then the guys visit with Mariners’ second baseman Cole Young and discuss his big jump in year two, his defense and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here he is joining us right now on the radio.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Shot mort for just imagining him celebrating Star Wars Day,
him and his lovely wife Michelle asking his wife, Honey,
would you do me a favor and dress up his
lea on the cell Marge in return of the Jedi.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
For he got address up like Jaba.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, that'd be involved putting on buttloads of weight, by
the way, if he did that, so probably not.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But Hugh happy Star Wars Day.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, if I'm gonna get her in a costume, it
ain't gonna be Princess Leah.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know what, I gotta be honest with you. Pal.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You're a smart guy. Yeah, you are an academic All American.
You're one of the smartest guys I know. You are
an absolute idiot. If you don't want to see your
wife and a Princess Leah.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I could. I just said I could see, I could
think of I could think of better.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Just wasn't his first choice, dude, That was that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Was don't default the princess.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Let me let me just ask you a question honestly,
and if the answers no, that's fine, Okay. When I
referenced Princess Leah on the sale barge and do you
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's the point. That's a problem. I'm gonna say. You
might have changed your answer, right, I'm gonna get in.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm no, no, no, no no, it's not next rated.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You are missing out.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm gonna send you a photo and then you reassess
the situation, you think about your opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
All right again, I I.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Will stand on.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I bet you I could come up with something better.
If we're talking costumes, why yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, okay, if you the way.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
If we're talking about dates, I prefer March fourth, it's
the only date that has a command.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
March for Yeah. That is pretty okay.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
You got one one more Star Wars question, then we'll
move to football.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You got one Star Wars movie you got to watch?
Oh god, he is no I yeah, really.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Beyond Star Wars for one hundred Alex because yeah, I've
just I liked me some Star Wars fans.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I just don't like me some Star Wars That is.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
All right, that's disappointing.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm gonna send you a picture of Princess Leiah and
you get back to me later on the night. All right,
you want to do it in a private moment, that's
just fine. We can discuss it offline. I have no
problem with that. Well, let's let's start off by kind
of what we saw over the weekend at Seahawk rookie
mini camp and a lot of conversation Hugh coming out
of the vMac about Jendarium Price as a receiver, right,
(02:25):
a guy that didn't catch a lot of balls I
think when he was.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
At Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And you know, it's funny we did mention that his
first start with the Hawks will be his first start
since high school, by the way, because he didn't start
at Notre Dame obviously because of Jeremiah Love. But this
is this is a guy that's replacing Kenny Walker, who
obviously was very versatile as a runner and as a
pass catcher. Is it fair to expect the same thing
out of Jendarium Price.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, it'll be interesting to watch, because you know he
had not shown it. I looked at all of his
receiving tape from last year at Notre Dame. Thrown two
seven times, caught six five more screens. The other were checkdowns,
and so you didn't I look and I say, there's
different kind of tiers of running back contribution. And you know,
(03:12):
you assume just about anybody in the NFL can catch
a damn screen pass. Right by the way, he had
a beautiful swing screen where he kind of you know,
a swing screen is marked by he's gonna run laterally
like he's running a swing route to the right side.
This was against Arkansas, and he had a i think
a tight end and alignment out in front, and and
(03:34):
uh he was able to cut back and make a
very impressive touchdown out of that. So you see his
his his open field instincts. But to me, there's kind
of tears about how a running back would be involved.
And at the very least you expect a guy to
catch a screen pass and and a checkdown right in front.
(03:55):
You know, a checkdown would be, Hey, we're gonna try
and hit a post and then and then we're gonna
trying to hit in the intermediate dig route and then
if those are covered, we'll just check it down right
over the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
We've all seen this right thousands of times because we're
football fans.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The three guys that come to mind in my uh,
you know, life watching the NFL and and career is
there's three guys, and you got Marshall Falk, you got
Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And then oh gosh, there's Gary Anderson.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Remember Gary Anderson Chargers. Yeah, so I'll skip over him.
Most people don't remember him. What Marshall Fulk could do.
I talked about the kind of the progression of complexity.
If you go, if you start screen passing checkdowns, you
have to be able to do that. Then you get
to the level of okay, can you run an option route?
(04:49):
And I'll get to that in a second. The final
like graduate school, like you've got you know, five hundred,
six hundred and seven hundred level classes. Marshall Fulk the
to be able to spread him out and most running backs,
that's part of the deal.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Like you say, okay, you either.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Run a go route or a hitch route, and that
way you have a vertical and you have a stop.
A hitch route is just a six yard stop. But
then the guys that are at the very top of
the food chain in that, as I said Marshall Fowk,
he would run actual wide receiver runs, routes, he'd run comebacks,
he'd run skinny posts, and he'd run not terribly unlike
(05:27):
a wide receiver. But here's what I'm hoping for, and
I'll close with this on the thought, I hope that
he can run an option route.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I mentioned Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You know, if you if you're near a computer, you
can just look up just YouTube and go on the
search and YouTube, go Christian McCaffrey. First touch, first or touchdown,
first play of rose ball. It was against Iowa twenty sixteen,
the very first play from scrimmage and the Hawkeyes come down,
they have a late safety come down, and McCaffrey's running
(06:00):
in an option route from the right side. Kevin Hogan's
Stanford quarterback. And what McCaffrey does in CZC on the
TV copy you don't need the coaches tape, but McCaffrey originally,
when the defense was lined up with two safeties back there,
there's only three underneath linebacker people at the second level,
(06:20):
and the middle linebacker would have to what's called push
to the three receiver side, which would give a lot
of space for McCaffrey. But because Iowa comes down late,
what McCaffrey does is he he breaks inside of the
outside defender, but then right at the hash mark. He
gets skinny and he goes up. His instincts are wide
receiver instincts, so he had the sense to go inside,
(06:42):
but don't go too far because there's another defender, and
he gets quarterback friendly. He turns his body, catches the ball,
and seventy five yards later, first play of the game,
it's a touchdown on an option route. Now you don't
see that, you know, that's obviously if your scout I
being Christian McCaffrey. He was the eighth overall pick to
(07:03):
the Panthers. You're seeing that, and you're you're saying, Okay,
that's a weapon. You don't see that from Price. It's
not to say he doesn't have that ability, but if
we're talking about like the ultimate blue sky vision of
what Price could be, you'd be able to say, hey,
on some important times, we'd be able to run an
option route.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Hell Kenneth Walker in.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
The in the NFC Championship game. On a third down
in the third quarter, he gets ten yards on third
and nine. He breaks it out. He's going this man
and man great route, catches the plucks the ball out
in front. He wasn't a big contributor Walker to the
passing game. But he was on that play very very
pivotal part of the NFC Championship game. So that showed
(07:47):
how Walker's receiving skills kind of emerged.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I I'm assuming we just lost Hughes connection or a
mediaite just hit his head.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, one or the other.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Well, he might have gotten your text with Princess Les Yeah.
Probably it just like I'm painted. Yeah, he says, I'm done.
He's running right right to the costume store. There's also
a chance that we may be off the air, by
the way entirely Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, Okay, there you go. That's good news. Why don't
you get Hugh back on the air.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Maybe he did get I have not sent him a
text yet with that Princess Leia bikini picture.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Don't blame I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Don't blame me, but don't you think I mean, it's
funny just going back to his thoughts on Price and
uh and you know, kind of comparing him to Kenny
Walker as a pass catcher. I I don't know if
it's fair to expect Price to do everything Walker did.
But on the other hand, the guy was a first
round draft pick. Walker was a second round draft pick.
But there also wasn't as big a need I think
(08:43):
when Kenny Walker got taken as there is now. And
you know, I was asked I was almost run Petro
show in Kansas City today. I was asked about the pick.
I was like, dude, look, man, let's ever think this man.
They got the best running back available at the time.
The next guy taken, I think was the kid from Indiana,
if I'm not mistaken, like fifty picks later. So if
the Hawks gal, if they had passed on Price, they
would have waited a long time or they would have
(09:05):
had to have totally maybe overdrafted a.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Little bit taken like a Mike Washington whoever? Who have that. Yeah,
So I love it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I mean it's just well and the you know, and
the McCaffrey compares. It'd be awesome if he could catch
pass like McAffrey. But McCaffrey was drafted twenty four spots higher.
First start, Aran Price Way Hughes back with us and
Hugh question another question for you on Price because Sophie
Jackson and I were kind of debating on his early
season workload late last week when we were talking about it,
(09:34):
and I guess I was a little bit more conservative
with it. I mean, do you think it's just gonna
be thrown to the wolves running back number one and
would he be able to handle that, or do you
think it'll be buffered quite a bit by Emmanuel Wilson
and maybe even a George Hallani or what have you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Great question. I think that they would like to come
in and ease him in. He averaged eight point two
carries per touches, I should say, because you count the
catches in there, but most of them were carries. And
you know, at eight that's that's light. And speaking of light,
he was two hundred three pounds at the combine. So
if you just take body mass index, compare him to
(10:14):
Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker's two inches shorter and he's ten
twelve pounds heavier. So you know, he's just obviously just
a stock of your dude. You had the body armor,
he could take the hits. That's gonna be a concern.
I would think four price and you know, whomever, whether
it's Wilson or whoever else this emerges, is, you know,
(10:37):
I would assume there's gonna be three running backs active
by the time they make that decision. I think the
other two. You'd like to mix it up a little
because I don't think they want to just give him,
you know, fifteen plus touches.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
On the first week.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
But you know they'll play it out, they'll assess his durability. Yeah,
and you know, frankly, how good is Wilson. I mean,
the market I spoke he was under two million dollars,
so I don't I don't think I'm expecting much, but
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, part of it's going to be ball security in
the preseason right for him if he hangs out of
the ball, and the more that they can trust him,
the more they'll give him the ball in September. The
reason why I bring that up because we had a
guy in the preseason and Jalen Milroe that kept dropping
the rock right and left and barely got to be
playing time when the season started. And I'm kind I mean,
I'm kind of hopeful Hugh that this year they can
(11:28):
find some kind of a role for him. I think
as a third round pick, would be nice to eventually
have a role for him on the football team. And
this is a dude that had no role whatsoever on
this team, like none as the year went on, zero
was a zero factor for these guys. You mentioned during
the draft about the idea of maybe trading him to
somebody who would develop as a starting quarterback. I mean,
(11:50):
as long as Darnold's here, he's never going to be
ever your starting quarterback. But what kind of role you
think he plays for these guys in September, if he's
still here.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, I think it's a little bit of a conundrum.
He's only got three years left on the contract. It's
it's difficult to envision.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You know, certainly, if Sam Darnold is healthy, Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Has two years left, you'd expect the twenty eight year old,
you're going to find a way to keep him under contract,
you know, if he plays anywhere near like he did
a year ago. I think Milroe, I don't think if
you had a crystal ball and you said, what's today's
May May fourth, right, we're just making a deal about that.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
If you'd have said on draft day last.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Year, in you know, mid to late April, here's what
we can see every single page of the script of
what's going to unfold in the next thirteen months, I
don't think Seattle would have drafted him.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I think that they they you know, the.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Draft him as a potential future. They didn't know about Donald.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
They probably envisioned maybe that that he was a little
further advanced. Now that you know it, he may have
a Malik Willis rise right the Titans, and you know
there's a stylistic comparison there.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
The Titans, you know, kind of said, okay, well he's
not our guy.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well he goes to Green Bay kind of I guess
in some sense Resurrects's career. And now he's paid forty
five million guaranteed by the Dolphins, so it could be
something along those lines, a team that wants to develop
him as a young guy. I wouldn't be disappointed if
Seattle could get a third round pick. Of course that
was more more of a relevant thought. Yes, you know
(13:33):
going into the draft, but yeah, right now, you know
you had the fumble against the Buccaneers and we never
saw him. Not only did we never see him on
the field again, I don't think we saw him active
again after that fumble.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
No, I'd be thrill on the pitch.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Out if they could get a third round pick for
him back in return. Well what the Patriots get too?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Second right, and Garoppolo had only thrown like a hundred
passes in the NFL when they traded him.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, well he's he's got a hundred less than a hundred.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yea, Yeah, that's a pretty big it's a big jump.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I mean, but you know what, guys, huie, I would
I I'd like to see if if he can become
a weapon.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I mean, we've got him, let's use them. Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't trust him at all as a passer like zero.
You guys know that. I've told you that for years,
going back to Alabama. I don't trust him as far
as I can chuck him as a passer. But as
a big bodied runner, my goal for him is, hey,
fourth and two inches from your own thirty five yard line,
Give the big guy the ball and see if he
can keep a drive going. I Hugh, I'd like to
see if we can develop that versus yeah, versus trading
(14:36):
a guy when.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You yeah, I mean, I look, give it another year.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean obviously that's that. That appears to be where
they're at.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Of course, you know, nothing precludes them from training him,
trading him rather than training camp. What's your Essentially, what
I think you're angling at is kind of a Taysom
Hill situation.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I mean, it's just not as big a weapon, a
weapon that p people don't have where instead of punning.
And again, when you have a great defense, you don't
need to take chances.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But I mean if he helps you win a game,
and the game is the difference between the one and
the two seed, then it's well worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well, it's got to be a weapon such that it's
worth taking Donald off the field, or or if they're
both on the field, that Donald would you know, split
out as a wide receiver that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
An another component to this discussion is is, as of now,
the tush push has not been outlawed, right, and you know,
I think it should. But a J Barner, you know,
it's kind of emerged as the guy that maybe in
some sense replaced what you thought you had, you.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Know, in the case of mill Row.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But but if Milroe is gonna be any kind of
a weapon, he's still gonna have to throw the ball
from time to time.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I mean, if you if you pull.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Up the the the passing stats for Hill, I assume
they're not overwhelming, but he can he can strike, he
can hit a seam with a tight end down the middle.
I think he hit one for a touchdown against the
Seahawks one of those years. So I think there's a
there's got to be at least a minimal, hopefully modest,
at least threat of him passing. Otherwise you're just in
(16:20):
a wildcat. You know, you might as well put JD.
Price in shotcut right, So so at an event, I
think there's some discussions here. I think right now you
could summarize and say the mill Row.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Deal is is kind of just like a hydro stuck
in the water.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You know, It's just it didn't really take off the
emergence of darnld. It just seems like an extra body there.
Let's see if they can find something. But I don't
I don't think there's an.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Easy answer to it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You I know, he talked a little bit about Dante
Fowler with Saftie on on Friday, but for me, it
was convalescing. And those who miss that, give give us
the take on what you saw in film from a
guy that the Seahawks seem to be pretty interested in
bringing in free agency with pass Rush.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, well, he's a third overall pick, so you know
he had a skill set coming out of Florida against
top notch competition in college. And you know, I think
that for me, if I summarize my thoughts with Dave,
is that Mike McDonald to go back to the Ravens.
They led his last year as the raven defensive coordinator.
(17:28):
The Ravens led the NFL in most sacks. Of course,
fewest points allowed in most turnovers as well, but kind
of a triple crown of sorts.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But getting back to the most sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
They did it the defensive ends, who are obviously the
primary positions from which you expect.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
To derive those sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You had Kyle van Ney I think thirty one or
thirty two years old.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You had Jed Avy and Clowney.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
At over thirty, both guys over thirty, and both guys
at least on their fifteen, fifth or sixteen, So you know,
journeyman dudes, and you know there was no you know
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
On that that line.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, same thing with Seattle here you've got DeMarcus Lawrence
a little long in the tooth, you know, not that
he's a cast off for a journeyman, but but you
didn't have to expend great resource resources to acquire him
to Chenna Nwosu. You know they're they're willing to uh
even even big cat Leonard Williams. You know, now he's
more of an inside guy, but he plays on the
(18:27):
outside a little bit. That Mike McDonald seems to have
found a way to get just a little bit more
juice out of those aging fruit, particularly at the defensive
end positions.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
So if he says that that Fowler.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Has still got a one season or more left in him,
I think McDonald's vision of NFL defensive football is so
razor sharp that we just trust him, right, because he
doesn't need a twenty six year old Nick Bose and
you know to make his defense run, right, you know,
he can do it with a thirty two year old
(19:05):
guy that's kind of been somewhat on the scrap.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Heat, right right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
He also hasn't signed every bozo bust from that draft,
and this isn't number nine right for him, like Carol
didn't from the twenty thirteen draft. Right, if we were
way down the road and there's another just reclamation project,
this is just getting ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But for I mean, if he does it, I mean,
I guess you.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Could say DeMarcus Lawrence was number one, and that worked
out pretty well, so we'll see. I mean, these guys
played together in Dallas, obviously, so maybe de.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Law is speaking for him.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right, hey man, listen, great stuff, and keep an
eye out for that Princess Leah bikini picture that's by.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The way, Okay, and I'll give you a barrage of
better costumes.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, well, Hugh, I'm not saying there's nothing better. I'm
just saying that you have to imagine yourself as an
eight year old kid. Okay, your hormones are and you
see Princess Leah on the sale barge. Yeah, you know
what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
If he's a premature, look at it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
In context, all right, look at it in the context.
All right, it's just all right. All I'm asking you
to do is keep an open mind here, buddy, all right,
keep it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Op open mind. Then never had rock and roll?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, you're milling with us. This is getting very uncomfortable
as your wife is. Anybody in the audience ever convinced
their wife to put on a Princess Leiah bikini costume
for their anniversary Halloween? Come on, somebody in the audience.
Jackson what do you think somebody in the audience has
done that?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
There's got to be somebody.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Sorry, I was talking to Hugh about who just could
not get over the fact that that was even a conversation.
He's he's almost a huge kind of I think he
broke his brain because he doesn't even understand, like, like what,
why would you even consider that to.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
Be like a a like best costume?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Like I can, I can, I can go back to
the day my voice cracked and it was that day I.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Saw Leah When did Jedi come out? Nineteen eighty eight?
An eighty Jedi? I was ten years old, just bursting
with anticipation.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Man, it's very generational, right, It's like it's for Hugh,
like it's I don't know what hughes example of that
would be maybe Marilyn Monroe in the white dress.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, thats not that old. I hope he's Derek American
coming out of the water.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean, for for the current generation, just for about
think about Kate Upton and just go with it.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Well, so for me, for me, it's Jessica Rabbit in
the red dress.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Jessica Rabbit, Yeah, cartoon.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
That's pretty old school, man.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You were very old.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
No, it was that's that's that's like Roger Rabbit cartoons.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's nineties, the animated movie.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
It was like it was was it Hoof and Roger Rabbit?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It was eighty eight?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Man, were you an eighty?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Really?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I saw it in the guys like, what.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Can I jump in for a second? Are we talking
about a cartoon?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, Jackson?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Did you say that?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Jackson, Sophia, have you seen Jessica Rabbit in the dress?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You the first time you already got going is in.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
A cartoons as a seven year old, Softy, that's pretty
much what I watched his cartoons. Oh my god, that's
kind of that's kind of what kids had, soft.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Cartoons growing up. And I want to you know, I'm
not falling in love with with the what the hell
is her name? The Smurf, the Hot Smurfs, Hoops.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
There's there's a there's a there's a wide difference between
Jessica Rabbit and whatever you're saying, your.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Rabbit, your bubble burst and a cartoon. Oh my god, Softy,
Holy moly, No, Jackson, the hell were your.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Parents like and you watch I don't. I don't even
think you know what I'm talking about I.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Just I just looked at it age. She looks great.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Pretty freaking cartoon's pretty uh su oh my god. All right,
we're gonna break so young Maren her second basement. We'll
ask him, no, we won't.
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Speaker 1 (23:07):
All right, boys and girls, we're back here.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Jimmy's on first, across the street from T Mobile Mariners
and Brainy Eve's coming up tonight, game one of three.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But what do you say we stop yak and go
across the street.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Is joining us right now on the radio show Guys
Kicking Ass So far in twenty twenty six, No doubt,
man maybe on his way to an All Star game,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Joining us right now in the.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Air, across the street from T Mobile Mariners second basement.
Cole Young with us right now on the air. Cole,
How you doing, Man?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Doing great?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well?
Speaker 8 (23:34):
It's starting the You're really nice in Seattle, so it's
been awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, it's great to hear your voice. Great to have
you back on the show.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
We just talked about the jump man that you've taken
from year one to year two. And there's a lot
of cliches out there, so sometimes I kind of lose track.
But one of my favorites is that they always say
the biggest jump that major leaguers make is from year
one to year two.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think that's what they say, something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Tell us about the jump that you think you've made
and how much more comfortable you are now versus the
guy that we saw first come up a year ago.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Dude.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Yeah, you know, I think I think I made a
pretty big jump, and I think it all starts just
in this past offseason. You know, really just take a
step back and looking at the twenty twenty five season
and you know, taking the positives and you know, learning
from the learning from the negatives. And I think that
was the biggest thing for me, whether it was offensively, defensively,
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and you know, just trying to get better at the
things I need to do. And that was just the
main focus this offseason. So, you know, did that went
into spring training? Felt felt good and yeah, just just
have have that mindset to just you know, keep getting
better every single day. And so like that's been working for.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Me, Well, is it easier now that you went into
day one of the season with the job so you
could kind of just relax and settle in because all
last year, I mean basically you were still in a
tryout mode.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
To prove it move.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Yeah, I mean it definitely helps starting the year with
the with the team. You know, it's nice to you know,
play every single day and you know, get a ton
of a bat, so that's always great. But yeah, it's
it's nice to play every day and it feels great.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'll tell you what Cole Young's with us, And as
impressed as we are with your bat, I'm even more
impressed with your defense.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, honestly, tell us about kind of how much
work you put into that behind closed doors and how
much pride you take in your defense.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Right now, Yeah, credit goes to Perry hill our infield coach.
He's been such a such a help since I got
to the big leagues and that's where I've learned everything from.
So everything I've learned from twenty twenty five, I you know,
worked really hard this offseason and on the things he
taught me, and you know, made it a point to
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get better at that. And yeah, I'm thinking credit to him.
He's he's got to be the greatest infield coach of
all time. So just trying to learn as much as
it's possible from him, and and yeah, we get after
it every single day.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, he's seventy five years old. I mean, he's been
around the game a long time, dude, right, Cole, So
he's worked with some great second basement. He goes back
all the way to the nineteen seventies, for god's sakes,
nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So you mentioned his name there, can you.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Give us maybe a little bit of an anecdote or
maybe something that he's taught you specifically that you think
has made a big difference in your defense.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, So you know, his thing is the success, which
pretty much is just you know, the fundamentals of fielding
of baseball. So that's that's really, that's really what he preaches.
So I know I've doubled down on the on the
fundamentals and you know, I'm not not trying to make
you know, the flashiest play ever. I'm trying to you know,
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have that mindset of just making making the routine plays
and you know, getting getting the routine out. So you know,
that's in the mindset, and he's really ingraved that in
my mind. So that's that's where I worked a lot,
just the routine, routine, plays the fundamentals and getting really
good at those, and then you know, on the balls
that are you know, really far to my right or left,
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it's you know, kind of all athleticism from there, but
just really hammering, hammering down the fundamentals.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Speaking of hammering, you're hammering left handed pitching this year.
Talk about your your negative splits and maybe why we're
seeing negative splits from you this year where you're hitting
lefties better than righty's.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, I honestly, I don't really know. I mean,
I've never you know, had that part of a time
hitting lefties. But I think I faced a lot of
lefties in spring training, which helped me a ton. So
I feel like I feel like, I read battle was
facing a lefty in spring so got a ton of
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a bat against against lefties. So I think that, you know,
help me, help me prepare for this season once once
I do face lefty. So and another thing too, it's,
you know, I'm trying to shortened in Simplegan's lefties. You know,
it can be a weird angle at times, but just
having that shortened and simple mindset has helped me.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Cole Young's with us and Cole, I got to ask
you about Saturday Night man. First of all, did you
get a chance to meet the big Unit? Did you
rub elbows with Randy Johnson Saturday at all?
Speaker 8 (28:19):
I didn't get a chance to meet him, but I
tossed him in the in the tunnel. He he was
pretty busy, but to toss him in the tunnel, And yeah,
I don't think I've ever seen anyone taller than before
in real life.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So yeah, yeah, he's literally a foot taller than you,
by the way, all right, so yeah that would be
pretty intimidating. But what was it like for you on Saturday?
I know you guys, would you know love to have
had the win on Saturday night? Uh, you know, any
win this weekend against Kansas City? What was it like
for you to sit back and watch Emerson Hancock work
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on Saturday night?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Man?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That was pretty damn impressive with with fourteen k's. What
did you see from him Saturday?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Man?
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Yeah, that was unbelievable. You know, I didn't really realize
how many strikeouts he had And and Chill was. I
think it was the seventh thing I looked up in
SO fourteen, next to a strikeout call, and so I
remember looking at GP. I'm like, what is going on?
I just did not expect that. I was kind of
busy just you know, focusing on the on each play,
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but that was unreal. That was one of one of
the crazier performances I've seen since the benep Here.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
You started the conversation talking about the weather, and certainly
we were getting un early May like weather here in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It's more like July.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Do you guys talk about that, because you know, we
make a big deal about the media and the fans
do like, oh yeah, Sosic gets warmed up. Mariners can
hit a T mobile park. Do you guys talk about
that when it's an eighty degree day here?
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I mean, yeah, yeah, we do. It's definitely it's definitely
easier to hit in warmer weather than cool weather, obviously,
but you know, the ball destutely flies more or like
even say you can you can tell the difference, and
in earlier word, dotting practice, it's just hit the ball's
carrying a little bit more. You know, if you get jammed,
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it doesn't doesn't hurt as bad as cold weather, so
it's a little easier to hitting warm weather. And you
know the the ball carries more too, so it's it's nice.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love it. Well.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Listen, man, congratulations on a hell of a start for you. Uh,
you've been kicking ass out there both offense defense. I
know there's a lot more meat on that bone, so
go get it.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We appreciate you doing this and we'll talk down the road.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Goal appreciate it. Thanks, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah you bet. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Cole Young Mariner Second Basement with us on the radio show.
Great to hear his voice. Man, off to a hell
of a start, hitting two sixty six, seven to twenty
ops overall numbers that don't jump off the page, but
it's the whole package, right, everything jumps off the page.
This guy's going to be a consistent hitter. He's gonna
be a consistently good to not great Second Basement. He
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had the air what was it from or Thursday whatever
game we were watching, and it was like, wow, did
that just happen? That was his first air on the
entire year. So I think the competition for second base,
I mean, look, there may be a question mark about
shortstop down the road, and I think there maybe even
third down the road. There's no question about second.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I mean he looks like your second basement for a decade,
that's right. I mean, he really does. And it is
weird the splits though. I mean, you mentioned the overall ops,
but if it's eight eleven versus six seventy three, you'd
think he'd be hitting eight to eleven against right he's
not against lefties.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah. Well, I love that he's here.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think you're right, he's gonna be a consistent guy
for a long time. We've gotta break. Bill Krueger will
join us at five textimonials next segment. I think, I think,
I think Emerson Hancock maybe joining us at eight at five.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Thirty on the radio program eight thirty Eastern with us.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So stay tuned for that life from Jimmy's on ninety
three three KJRFM.
Here he is joining us right now on the radio.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Shot mort for just imagining him celebrating Star Wars Day,
him and his lovely wife Michelle asking his wife, Honey,
would you do me a favor and dress up his
lea on the cell Marge in return of the Jedi.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
For he got address up like Jaba.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, that'd be involved putting on buttloads of weight, by
the way, if he did that, so probably not.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But Hugh happy Star Wars Day.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, if I'm gonna get her in a costume, it
ain't gonna be Princess Leah.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know what, I gotta be honest with you. Pal.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You're a smart guy. Yeah, you are an academic All American.
You're one of the smartest guys I know. You are
an absolute idiot. If you don't want to see your
wife and a Princess Leah.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I could. I just said I could see, I could
think of I could think of better.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Just wasn't his first choice, dude, That was that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Was don't default the princess.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Let me let me just ask you a question honestly,
and if the answers no, that's fine, Okay. When I
referenced Princess Leah on the sale barge and do you
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's the point. That's a problem. I'm gonna say. You
might have changed your answer, right, I'm gonna get in.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm no, no, no, no no, it's not next rated.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You are missing out.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm gonna send you a photo and then you reassess
the situation, you think about your opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
All right again, I I.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Will stand on.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I bet you I could come up with something better.
If we're talking costumes, why yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, okay, if you the way.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
If we're talking about dates, I prefer March fourth, it's
the only date that has a command.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
March for Yeah. That is pretty okay.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
You got one one more Star Wars question, then we'll
move to football.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You got one Star Wars movie you got to watch?
Oh god, he is no I yeah, really.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Beyond Star Wars for one hundred Alex because yeah, I've
just I liked me some Star Wars fans.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I just don't like me some Star Wars That is.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
All right, that's disappointing.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm gonna send you a picture of Princess Leiah and
you get back to me later on the night. All right,
you want to do it in a private moment, that's
just fine. We can discuss it offline. I have no
problem with that. Well, let's let's start off by kind
of what we saw over the weekend at Seahawk rookie
mini camp and a lot of conversation Hugh coming out
of the vMac about Jendarium Price as a receiver, right,
(02:25):
a guy that didn't catch a lot of balls I
think when he was.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
At Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And you know, it's funny we did mention that his
first start with the Hawks will be his first start
since high school, by the way, because he didn't start
at Notre Dame obviously because of Jeremiah Love. But this
is this is a guy that's replacing Kenny Walker, who
obviously was very versatile as a runner and as a
pass catcher. Is it fair to expect the same thing
out of Jendarium Price.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, it'll be interesting to watch, because you know he
had not shown it. I looked at all of his
receiving tape from last year at Notre Dame. Thrown two
seven times, caught six five more screens. The other were checkdowns,
and so you didn't I look and I say, there's
different kind of tiers of running back contribution. And you know,
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you assume just about anybody in the NFL can catch
a damn screen pass. Right by the way, he had
a beautiful swing screen where he kind of you know,
a swing screen is marked by he's gonna run laterally
like he's running a swing route to the right side.
This was against Arkansas, and he had a i think
a tight end and alignment out in front, and and
(03:34):
uh he was able to cut back and make a
very impressive touchdown out of that. So you see his
his his open field instincts. But to me, there's kind
of tears about how a running back would be involved.
And at the very least you expect a guy to
catch a screen pass and and a checkdown right in front.
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You know, a checkdown would be, Hey, we're gonna try
and hit a post and then and then we're gonna
trying to hit in the intermediate dig route and then
if those are covered, we'll just check it down right
over the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
We've all seen this right thousands of times because we're
football fans.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The three guys that come to mind in my uh,
you know, life watching the NFL and and career is
there's three guys, and you got Marshall Falk, you got
Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And then oh gosh, there's Gary Anderson.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Remember Gary Anderson Chargers. Yeah, so I'll skip over him.
Most people don't remember him. What Marshall Fulk could do.
I talked about the kind of the progression of complexity.
If you go, if you start screen passing checkdowns, you
have to be able to do that. Then you get
to the level of okay, can you run an option route?
(04:49):
And I'll get to that in a second. The final
like graduate school, like you've got you know, five hundred,
six hundred and seven hundred level classes. Marshall Fulk the
to be able to spread him out and most running backs,
that's part of the deal.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Like you say, okay, you either.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Run a go route or a hitch route, and that
way you have a vertical and you have a stop.
A hitch route is just a six yard stop. But
then the guys that are at the very top of
the food chain in that, as I said Marshall Fowk,
he would run actual wide receiver runs, routes, he'd run comebacks,
he'd run skinny posts, and he'd run not terribly unlike
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a wide receiver. But here's what I'm hoping for, and
I'll close with this on the thought, I hope that
he can run an option route.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I mentioned Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You know, if you if you're near a computer, you
can just look up just YouTube and go on the
search and YouTube, go Christian McCaffrey. First touch, first or touchdown,
first play of rose ball. It was against Iowa twenty sixteen,
the very first play from scrimmage and the Hawkeyes come down,
they have a late safety come down, and McCaffrey's running
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in an option route from the right side. Kevin Hogan's
Stanford quarterback. And what McCaffrey does in CZC on the
TV copy you don't need the coaches tape, but McCaffrey originally,
when the defense was lined up with two safeties back there,
there's only three underneath linebacker people at the second level,
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and the middle linebacker would have to what's called push
to the three receiver side, which would give a lot
of space for McCaffrey. But because Iowa comes down late,
what McCaffrey does is he he breaks inside of the
outside defender, but then right at the hash mark. He
gets skinny and he goes up. His instincts are wide
receiver instincts, so he had the sense to go inside,
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but don't go too far because there's another defender, and
he gets quarterback friendly. He turns his body, catches the ball,
and seventy five yards later, first play of the game,
it's a touchdown on an option route. Now you don't
see that, you know, that's obviously if your scout I
being Christian McCaffrey. He was the eighth overall pick to
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the Panthers. You're seeing that, and you're you're saying, Okay,
that's a weapon. You don't see that from Price. It's
not to say he doesn't have that ability, but if
we're talking about like the ultimate blue sky vision of
what Price could be, you'd be able to say, hey,
on some important times, we'd be able to run an
option route.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Hell Kenneth Walker in.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
The in the NFC Championship game. On a third down
in the third quarter, he gets ten yards on third
and nine. He breaks it out. He's going this man
and man great route, catches the plucks the ball out
in front. He wasn't a big contributor Walker to the
passing game. But he was on that play very very
pivotal part of the NFC Championship game. So that showed
(07:47):
how Walker's receiving skills kind of emerged.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I I'm assuming we just lost Hughes connection or a
mediaite just hit his head.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, one or the other.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Well, he might have gotten your text with Princess Les Yeah.
Probably it just like I'm painted. Yeah, he says, I'm done.
He's running right right to the costume store. There's also
a chance that we may be off the air, by
the way entirely Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, Okay, there you go. That's good news. Why don't
you get Hugh back on the air.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Maybe he did get I have not sent him a
text yet with that Princess Leia bikini picture.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Don't blame I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Don't blame me, but don't you think I mean, it's
funny just going back to his thoughts on Price and
uh and you know, kind of comparing him to Kenny
Walker as a pass catcher. I I don't know if
it's fair to expect Price to do everything Walker did.
But on the other hand, the guy was a first
round draft pick. Walker was a second round draft pick.
But there also wasn't as big a need I think
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when Kenny Walker got taken as there is now. And
you know, I was asked I was almost run Petro
show in Kansas City today. I was asked about the pick.
I was like, dude, look, man, let's ever think this man.
They got the best running back available at the time.
The next guy taken, I think was the kid from Indiana,
if I'm not mistaken, like fifty picks later. So if
the Hawks gal, if they had passed on Price, they
would have waited a long time or they would have
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had to have totally maybe overdrafted a.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Little bit taken like a Mike Washington whoever? Who have that. Yeah,
So I love it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I mean it's just well and the you know, and
the McCaffrey compares. It'd be awesome if he could catch
pass like McAffrey. But McCaffrey was drafted twenty four spots higher.
First start, Aran Price Way Hughes back with us and
Hugh question another question for you on Price because Sophie
Jackson and I were kind of debating on his early
season workload late last week when we were talking about it,
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and I guess I was a little bit more conservative
with it. I mean, do you think it's just gonna
be thrown to the wolves running back number one and
would he be able to handle that, or do you
think it'll be buffered quite a bit by Emmanuel Wilson
and maybe even a George Hallani or what have you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Great question. I think that they would like to come
in and ease him in. He averaged eight point two
carries per touches, I should say, because you count the
catches in there, but most of them were carries. And
you know, at eight that's that's light. And speaking of light,
he was two hundred three pounds at the combine. So
if you just take body mass index, compare him to
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Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker's two inches shorter and he's ten
twelve pounds heavier. So you know, he's just obviously just
a stock of your dude. You had the body armor,
he could take the hits. That's gonna be a concern.
I would think four price and you know, whomever, whether
it's Wilson or whoever else this emerges, is, you know,
(10:37):
I would assume there's gonna be three running backs active
by the time they make that decision. I think the
other two. You'd like to mix it up a little
because I don't think they want to just give him,
you know, fifteen plus touches.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
On the first week.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
But you know they'll play it out, they'll assess his durability. Yeah,
and you know, frankly, how good is Wilson. I mean,
the market I spoke he was under two million dollars,
so I don't I don't think I'm expecting much, but
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, part of it's going to be ball security in
the preseason right for him if he hangs out of
the ball, and the more that they can trust him,
the more they'll give him the ball in September. The
reason why I bring that up because we had a
guy in the preseason and Jalen Milroe that kept dropping
the rock right and left and barely got to be
playing time when the season started. And I'm kind I mean,
I'm kind of hopeful Hugh that this year they can
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find some kind of a role for him. I think
as a third round pick, would be nice to eventually
have a role for him on the football team. And
this is a dude that had no role whatsoever on
this team, like none as the year went on, zero
was a zero factor for these guys. You mentioned during
the draft about the idea of maybe trading him to
somebody who would develop as a starting quarterback. I mean,
(11:50):
as long as Darnold's here, he's never going to be
ever your starting quarterback. But what kind of role you
think he plays for these guys in September, if he's
still here.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, I think it's a little bit of a conundrum.
He's only got three years left on the contract. It's
it's difficult to envision.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You know, certainly, if Sam Darnold is healthy, Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Has two years left, you'd expect the twenty eight year old,
you're going to find a way to keep him under contract,
you know, if he plays anywhere near like he did
a year ago. I think Milroe, I don't think if
you had a crystal ball and you said, what's today's
May May fourth, right, we're just making a deal about that.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
If you'd have said on draft day last.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Year, in you know, mid to late April, here's what
we can see every single page of the script of
what's going to unfold in the next thirteen months, I
don't think Seattle would have drafted him.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I think that they they you know, the.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Draft him as a potential future. They didn't know about Donald.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
They probably envisioned maybe that that he was a little
further advanced. Now that you know it, he may have
a Malik Willis rise right the Titans, and you know
there's a stylistic comparison there.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
The Titans, you know, kind of said, okay, well he's
not our guy.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well he goes to Green Bay kind of I guess
in some sense Resurrects's career. And now he's paid forty
five million guaranteed by the Dolphins, so it could be
something along those lines, a team that wants to develop
him as a young guy. I wouldn't be disappointed if
Seattle could get a third round pick. Of course that
was more more of a relevant thought. Yes, you know
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going into the draft, but yeah, right now, you know
you had the fumble against the Buccaneers and we never
saw him. Not only did we never see him on
the field again, I don't think we saw him active
again after that fumble.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
No, I'd be thrill on the pitch.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Out if they could get a third round pick for
him back in return. Well what the Patriots get too?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Second right, and Garoppolo had only thrown like a hundred
passes in the NFL when they traded him.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, well he's he's got a hundred less than a hundred.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yea, Yeah, that's a pretty big it's a big jump.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I mean, but you know what, guys, huie, I would
I I'd like to see if if he can become
a weapon.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I mean, we've got him, let's use them. Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't trust him at all as a passer like zero.
You guys know that. I've told you that for years,
going back to Alabama. I don't trust him as far
as I can chuck him as a passer. But as
a big bodied runner, my goal for him is, hey,
fourth and two inches from your own thirty five yard line,
Give the big guy the ball and see if he
can keep a drive going. I Hugh, I'd like to
see if we can develop that versus yeah, versus trading
(14:36):
a guy when.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You yeah, I mean, I look, give it another year.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean obviously that's that. That appears to be where
they're at.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Of course, you know, nothing precludes them from training him,
trading him rather than training camp. What's your Essentially, what
I think you're angling at is kind of a Taysom
Hill situation.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I mean, it's just not as big a weapon, a
weapon that p people don't have where instead of punning.
And again, when you have a great defense, you don't
need to take chances.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But I mean if he helps you win a game,
and the game is the difference between the one and
the two seed, then it's well worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well, it's got to be a weapon such that it's
worth taking Donald off the field, or or if they're
both on the field, that Donald would you know, split
out as a wide receiver that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
An another component to this discussion is is, as of now,
the tush push has not been outlawed, right, and you know,
I think it should. But a J Barner, you know,
it's kind of emerged as the guy that maybe in
some sense replaced what you thought you had, you.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Know, in the case of mill Row.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But but if Milroe is gonna be any kind of
a weapon, he's still gonna have to throw the ball
from time to time.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I mean, if you if you pull.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Up the the the passing stats for Hill, I assume
they're not overwhelming, but he can he can strike, he
can hit a seam with a tight end down the middle.
I think he hit one for a touchdown against the
Seahawks one of those years. So I think there's a
there's got to be at least a minimal, hopefully modest,
at least threat of him passing. Otherwise you're just in
(16:20):
a wildcat. You know, you might as well put JD.
Price in shotcut right, So so at an event, I
think there's some discussions here. I think right now you
could summarize and say the mill Row.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Deal is is kind of just like a hydro stuck
in the water.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You know, It's just it didn't really take off the
emergence of darnld. It just seems like an extra body there.
Let's see if they can find something. But I don't
I don't think there's an.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Easy answer to it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You I know, he talked a little bit about Dante
Fowler with Saftie on on Friday, but for me, it
was convalescing. And those who miss that, give give us
the take on what you saw in film from a
guy that the Seahawks seem to be pretty interested in
bringing in free agency with pass Rush.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, well, he's a third overall pick, so you know
he had a skill set coming out of Florida against
top notch competition in college. And you know, I think
that for me, if I summarize my thoughts with Dave,
is that Mike McDonald to go back to the Ravens.
They led his last year as the raven defensive coordinator.
(17:28):
The Ravens led the NFL in most sacks. Of course,
fewest points allowed in most turnovers as well, but kind
of a triple crown of sorts.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But getting back to the most sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
They did it the defensive ends, who are obviously the
primary positions from which you expect.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
To derive those sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You had Kyle van Ney I think thirty one or
thirty two years old.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You had Jed Avy and Clowney.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
At over thirty, both guys over thirty, and both guys
at least on their fifteen, fifth or sixteen, So you know,
journeyman dudes, and you know there was no you know
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
On that that line.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, same thing with Seattle here you've got DeMarcus Lawrence
a little long in the tooth, you know, not that
he's a cast off for a journeyman, but but you
didn't have to expend great resource resources to acquire him
to Chenna Nwosu. You know they're they're willing to uh
even even big cat Leonard Williams. You know, now he's
more of an inside guy, but he plays on the
(18:27):
outside a little bit. That Mike McDonald seems to have
found a way to get just a little bit more
juice out of those aging fruit, particularly at the defensive
end positions.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
So if he says that that Fowler.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Has still got a one season or more left in him,
I think McDonald's vision of NFL defensive football is so
razor sharp that we just trust him, right, because he
doesn't need a twenty six year old Nick Bose and
you know to make his defense run, right, you know,
he can do it with a thirty two year old
(19:05):
guy that's kind of been somewhat on the scrap.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Heat, right right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
He also hasn't signed every bozo bust from that draft,
and this isn't number nine right for him, like Carol
didn't from the twenty thirteen draft. Right, if we were
way down the road and there's another just reclamation project,
this is just getting ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But for I mean, if he does it, I mean,
I guess you.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Could say DeMarcus Lawrence was number one, and that worked
out pretty well, so we'll see. I mean, these guys
played together in Dallas, obviously, so maybe de.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Law is speaking for him.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right, hey man, listen, great stuff, and keep an
eye out for that Princess Leah bikini picture that's by.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The way, Okay, and I'll give you a barrage of
better costumes.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, well, Hugh, I'm not saying there's nothing better. I'm
just saying that you have to imagine yourself as an
eight year old kid. Okay, your hormones are and you
see Princess Leah on the sale barge. Yeah, you know
what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
If he's a premature, look at it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
In context, all right, look at it in the context.
All right, it's just all right. All I'm asking you
to do is keep an open mind here, buddy, all right,
keep it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Op open mind. Then never had rock and roll?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, you're milling with us. This is getting very uncomfortable
as your wife is. Anybody in the audience ever convinced
their wife to put on a Princess Leiah bikini costume
for their anniversary Halloween? Come on, somebody in the audience.
Jackson what do you think somebody in the audience has
done that?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
There's got to be somebody.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Sorry, I was talking to Hugh about who just could
not get over the fact that that was even a conversation.
He's he's almost a huge kind of I think he
broke his brain because he doesn't even understand, like, like what,
why would you even consider that to.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
Be like a a like best costume?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Like I can, I can, I can go back to
the day my voice cracked and it was that day I.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Saw Leah When did Jedi come out? Nineteen eighty eight?
An eighty Jedi? I was ten years old, just bursting
with anticipation.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Man, it's very generational, right, It's like it's for Hugh,
like it's I don't know what hughes example of that
would be maybe Marilyn Monroe in the white dress.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, thats not that old. I hope he's Derek American
coming out of the water.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean, for for the current generation, just for about
think about Kate Upton and just go with it.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Well, so for me, for me, it's Jessica Rabbit in
the red dress.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Jessica Rabbit, Yeah, cartoon.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
That's pretty old school, man.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You were very old.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
No, it was that's that's that's like Roger Rabbit cartoons.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's nineties, the animated movie.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
It was like it was was it Hoof and Roger Rabbit?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It was eighty eight?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Man, were you an eighty?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Really?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I saw it in the guys like, what.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Can I jump in for a second? Are we talking
about a cartoon?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, Jackson?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Did you say that?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Jackson, Sophia, have you seen Jessica Rabbit in the dress?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You the first time you already got going is in.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
A cartoons as a seven year old, Softy, that's pretty
much what I watched his cartoons. Oh my god, that's
kind of that's kind of what kids had, soft.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Cartoons growing up. And I want to you know, I'm
not falling in love with with the what the hell
is her name? The Smurf, the Hot Smurfs, Hoops.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
There's there's a there's a there's a wide difference between
Jessica Rabbit and whatever you're saying, your.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Rabbit, your bubble burst and a cartoon. Oh my god, Softy,
Holy moly, No, Jackson, the hell were your.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Parents like and you watch I don't. I don't even
think you know what I'm talking about I.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Just I just looked at it age. She looks great.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Pretty freaking cartoon's pretty uh su oh my god. All right,
we're gonna break so young Maren her second basement. We'll
ask him, no, we won't.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
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Speaker 1 (23:07):
All right, boys and girls, we're back here.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Jimmy's on first, across the street from T Mobile Mariners
and Brainy Eve's coming up tonight, game one of three.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But what do you say we stop yak and go
across the street.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Is joining us right now on the radio show Guys
Kicking Ass So far in twenty twenty six, No doubt,
man maybe on his way to an All Star game,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Joining us right now in the.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Air, across the street from T Mobile Mariners second basement.
Cole Young with us right now on the air. Cole,
How you doing, Man?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Doing great?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well?
Speaker 8 (23:34):
It's starting the You're really nice in Seattle, so it's
been awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, it's great to hear your voice. Great to have
you back on the show.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
We just talked about the jump man that you've taken
from year one to year two. And there's a lot
of cliches out there, so sometimes I kind of lose track.
But one of my favorites is that they always say
the biggest jump that major leaguers make is from year
one to year two.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think that's what they say, something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Tell us about the jump that you think you've made
and how much more comfortable you are now versus the
guy that we saw first come up a year ago.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Dude.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Yeah, you know, I think I think I made a
pretty big jump, and I think it all starts just
in this past offseason. You know, really just take a
step back and looking at the twenty twenty five season
and you know, taking the positives and you know, learning
from the learning from the negatives. And I think that
was the biggest thing for me, whether it was offensively, defensively,
(24:26):
and you know, just trying to get better at the
things I need to do. And that was just the
main focus this offseason. So, you know, did that went
into spring training? Felt felt good and yeah, just just
have have that mindset to just you know, keep getting
better every single day. And so like that's been working for.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Me, Well, is it easier now that you went into
day one of the season with the job so you
could kind of just relax and settle in because all
last year, I mean basically you were still in a
tryout mode.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
To prove it move.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Yeah, I mean it definitely helps starting the year with
the with the team. You know, it's nice to you know,
play every single day and you know, get a ton
of a bat, so that's always great. But yeah, it's
it's nice to play every day and it feels great.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'll tell you what Cole Young's with us, And as
impressed as we are with your bat, I'm even more
impressed with your defense.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, honestly, tell us about kind of how much
work you put into that behind closed doors and how
much pride you take in your defense.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Right now, Yeah, credit goes to Perry hill our infield coach.
He's been such a such a help since I got
to the big leagues and that's where I've learned everything from.
So everything I've learned from twenty twenty five, I you know,
worked really hard this offseason and on the things he
taught me, and you know, made it a point to
(25:50):
get better at that. And yeah, I'm thinking credit to him.
He's he's got to be the greatest infield coach of
all time. So just trying to learn as much as
it's possible from him, and and yeah, we get after
it every single day.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, he's seventy five years old. I mean, he's been
around the game a long time, dude, right, Cole, So
he's worked with some great second basement. He goes back
all the way to the nineteen seventies, for god's sakes,
nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So you mentioned his name there, can you.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Give us maybe a little bit of an anecdote or
maybe something that he's taught you specifically that you think
has made a big difference in your defense.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, So you know, his thing is the success, which
pretty much is just you know, the fundamentals of fielding
of baseball. So that's that's really, that's really what he preaches.
So I know I've doubled down on the on the
fundamentals and you know, I'm not not trying to make
you know, the flashiest play ever. I'm trying to you know,
(26:49):
have that mindset of just making making the routine plays
and you know, getting getting the routine out. So you know,
that's in the mindset, and he's really ingraved that in
my mind. So that's that's where I worked a lot,
just the routine, routine, plays the fundamentals and getting really
good at those, and then you know, on the balls
that are you know, really far to my right or left,
(27:10):
it's you know, kind of all athleticism from there, but
just really hammering, hammering down the fundamentals.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Speaking of hammering, you're hammering left handed pitching this year.
Talk about your your negative splits and maybe why we're
seeing negative splits from you this year where you're hitting
lefties better than righty's.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, I honestly, I don't really know. I mean,
I've never you know, had that part of a time
hitting lefties. But I think I faced a lot of
lefties in spring training, which helped me a ton. So
I feel like I feel like, I read battle was
facing a lefty in spring so got a ton of
(27:49):
a bat against against lefties. So I think that, you know,
help me, help me prepare for this season once once
I do face lefty. So and another thing too, it's,
you know, I'm trying to shortened in Simplegan's lefties. You know,
it can be a weird angle at times, but just
having that shortened and simple mindset has helped me.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Cole Young's with us and Cole, I got to ask
you about Saturday Night man. First of all, did you
get a chance to meet the big Unit? Did you
rub elbows with Randy Johnson Saturday at all?
Speaker 8 (28:19):
I didn't get a chance to meet him, but I
tossed him in the in the tunnel. He he was
pretty busy, but to toss him in the tunnel, And yeah,
I don't think I've ever seen anyone taller than before
in real life.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So yeah, yeah, he's literally a foot taller than you,
by the way, all right, so yeah that would be
pretty intimidating. But what was it like for you on Saturday?
I know you guys, would you know love to have
had the win on Saturday night? Uh, you know, any
win this weekend against Kansas City? What was it like
for you to sit back and watch Emerson Hancock work
(28:53):
on Saturday night?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Man?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That was pretty damn impressive with with fourteen k's. What
did you see from him Saturday?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Man?
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Yeah, that was unbelievable. You know, I didn't really realize
how many strikeouts he had And and Chill was. I
think it was the seventh thing I looked up in
SO fourteen, next to a strikeout call, and so I
remember looking at GP. I'm like, what is going on?
I just did not expect that. I was kind of
busy just you know, focusing on the on each play,
(29:20):
but that was unreal. That was one of one of
the crazier performances I've seen since the benep Here.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
You started the conversation talking about the weather, and certainly
we were getting un early May like weather here in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It's more like July.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Do you guys talk about that, because you know, we
make a big deal about the media and the fans
do like, oh yeah, Sosic gets warmed up. Mariners can
hit a T mobile park. Do you guys talk about
that when it's an eighty degree day here?
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I mean, yeah, yeah, we do. It's definitely it's definitely
easier to hit in warmer weather than cool weather, obviously,
but you know, the ball destutely flies more or like
even say you can you can tell the difference, and
in earlier word, dotting practice, it's just hit the ball's
carrying a little bit more. You know, if you get jammed,
(30:10):
it doesn't doesn't hurt as bad as cold weather, so
it's a little easier to hitting warm weather. And you
know the the ball carries more too, so it's it's nice.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love it. Well.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Listen, man, congratulations on a hell of a start for you. Uh,
you've been kicking ass out there both offense defense. I
know there's a lot more meat on that bone, so
go get it.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We appreciate you doing this and we'll talk down the road.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Goal appreciate it. Thanks, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah you bet. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Cole Young Mariner Second Basement with us on the radio show.
Great to hear his voice. Man, off to a hell
of a start, hitting two sixty six, seven to twenty
ops overall numbers that don't jump off the page, but
it's the whole package, right, everything jumps off the page.
This guy's going to be a consistent hitter. He's gonna
be a consistently good to not great Second Basement. He
(30:58):
had the air what was it from or Thursday whatever
game we were watching, and it was like, wow, did
that just happen? That was his first air on the
entire year. So I think the competition for second base,
I mean, look, there may be a question mark about
shortstop down the road, and I think there maybe even
third down the road. There's no question about second.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I mean he looks like your second basement for a decade,
that's right. I mean, he really does. And it is
weird the splits though. I mean, you mentioned the overall ops,
but if it's eight eleven versus six seventy three, you'd
think he'd be hitting eight to eleven against right he's
not against lefties.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah. Well, I love that he's here.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think you're right, he's gonna be a consistent guy
for a long time. We've gotta break. Bill Krueger will
join us at five textimonials next segment. I think, I think,
I think Emerson Hancock maybe joining us at eight at five.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Thirty on the radio program eight thirty Eastern with us.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So stay tuned for that life from Jimmy's on ninety
three three KJRFM.
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