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In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Jon Wilner about finances for UW in the Big Ten compared to the Pac-12, plus the future of the Spring Game, then the guys revisit their conversation with Mariners star Julio Rodriguez from earlier today before Sounders FC Head Coach Brian Schmetzer talks about their draw last weekend.

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Here he is our friend, the Pope of the packagit

(01:00):
ten Baron himself, Johnny Wilner, John, how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I'm good?

Speaker 5 (01:04):
How you guys doings well?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Can you go over the Big Ten payouts that were
made per school?

Speaker 5 (01:11):
How much money you dub made?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
And if we are all still thinking that the Huskies
made the right move financially leaving the Pac twelve and
going to the Big Ten.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
For sure?

Speaker 6 (01:22):
So Friday evening the Big Ten release Friday afternoon, Friday
Evening released the tax filings for the twenty five fiscal year.
So the twenty four football season Spring of twenty five,
the first year of an eighteen team Big Ten record revenue,

(01:42):
record distributions to the schools the average amount to There
are sixteen schools that have full shares, right everybody except
Oregon and Washington. Those schools averaged about seventy nine million
in distributions from the conference office. Oregon and Washington are
half share members. Oregon took home forty eight million, Washington

(02:08):
took home.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Forty six million.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
The difference there was Oregon's participation in the CFP in
December of twenty four. So basically, if you're a Husky fan,
you're looking at a forty six million dollar take on
from the Big ten, and the average school is pulling
in thirty three million more than you are. And that

(02:30):
is not a one time occurrence, right, Washington's a half
share member for six years. If you do the math,
the Huskies are basically one hundred and eighty million dollars
behind the average school and the Big ten Oregon is
as well. But we know Oregon has an eighty six
year old shoe dog advantage that Washington does not have.

(02:52):
But that is a whole lot of money that the
Huskies are behind their competition.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Well, that's one way to put it right.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
The other way to put it is how much they're
making versus what they would have made if they had
stayed in the PAC twelve. So I get your point
about the buck eighty that they're not getting because they
don't have a full share. How much better off are
they financially versus the old setup if they would have
stayed in that old conference.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Well, if they had stayed in the old conference and
they had done the Apple deal. There are still a
few pieces that we don't know about the Apple deal,
but I think that they are certainly they are better
off The answer to that is yes. The question is
are they enough better off to justify some of the

(03:41):
other challenges. Now, I think you can make a strong
case that they are because the platform of the Big
ten provides the longer term security the Big ten provides.
But competitively, and we've talked about this, you can make
a case that they would have a better chance of
getting into the CFP if they had stayed in the
PAC twelve.

Speaker 7 (04:00):
Well, we'll see how many PAC twelve teams get to
go in a new CFP when when that comes up.
But that'll be a question that we can ask you
next year or the year after. Why does private capital
work for the Big twelve in your mind but not
for the Big Ten?

Speaker 6 (04:13):
Well, because it's a big difference in how they're structuring
the deal. The Big twelve is basically taken about twelve
million bucks from a private capital for conference operations, and
then it's giving each school the option to take a.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
Thirty million dollar loan.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
The Big Ten.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Was giving away equity in the conference, like literally a
piece of ownership in the conference. The Big twelve is
not doing that. There is no equity, there is no ownership.
It's just a it's basically a credit card. Big tend
to not do that. It was a much deeper stake,
and they were selling They were basically selling off the

(04:56):
part of the future of the conference, you know. And
you look at the number. Two point four billion would
have been the ten percent stake for the private capital firm.
The Big Ten's just churn it, spitting out one point
four billion in a single year or two to all
at school. So I just think that it was a

(05:16):
huge would have been a huge mistake had they done it.

Speaker 9 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, Well, John Wilners with us on the program and
John Udubb had their Spring game Dogs after Dark Spring
Fling kind of carnival thing on Friday, And you know,
Dick and I were talking about this the other day
yesterday as a matter of fact, on the radio show that.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Our pat shown was on with us.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I think it was about a year ago or so,
and said, yeah, there's a chance that eventually these spring
games kind of maybe go away. I mean, you know,
I mentioned maybe going away to the Pro Bowl and
just turning it into something else entirely. U Dub has
been struggling to find a way to get people involved.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
They've moved the game to a Friday.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
The crowd was okay, but it wasn't great by any
stretch of the imagination on Friday night. What is your
take on what the future of things like that are,
especially for teams like you DUB on the West Coast
that don't draw with them.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Maybe SEC does.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, Well, the thing is that the spring games have
lost a lot of value because none of the everybody
is scared about the other teams seeing your video. They're
scared about seeing players approaching your players.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
But I think that.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
The spring practice itself and spring games it's going away now.
I don't know if it'll be gone away by next spring,
but in a few years, there will be no spring
practice as we've known it. It will be something closer
to an NFL ota, A series of OTAs sprinkled in me.
You know, maybe you have a week in April and

(06:42):
week in May, a week in June, or two weeks
in May and a week in June. They're gonna move
to something like that because they're gonna they're moving every
the calendar is changing, they're moving things up. They want
they want more of an NFL offseason model. I think
so Washington, My guess is Washington won't have a spring
game in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 7 (07:01):
Wow, all right, right, John, it's a top twenty five
team at time. It's post spring top twenty five time.
And I thought it was very interesting how consistent the
major players nationally.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
Had the Huskies.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
ESPN had the Huskies seventeen, CBS had the Huskies eighteen,
Fox had the Huskies nineteen.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
Where does John Wilner have.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
The Huskies in his top twenty five going into the season.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
Here we go, I don't have it in front of me.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
I think I have him right around seventeen.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Okay, so thank god, which I.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Did it, But this was a version two point zero
from me. I did an initial early ranking in January,
right after the national title game, and if you'll recall,
at that point, the portal was closed, but there were
still a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
In the portal.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
I had Washington, I believe, twentieth back in January, and
I think I moved them up a couple of spots
in the version I just published the other day.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Nice, okay, Sarah, Well, and what would be let me
ask you this, what would be looked at as a
success for Jetfish in year number three? Considering where they
were when he took over two years ago and where
they are now. What should Husky fans expectations be in
year three for Jetfish.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
With the non conference schedule, I think that the bar
has got to be nine wins. I mean, if they're
below that, it's a disappointment if they don't make the playoff.
I don't think you can say it's, you know, a
failed season or disappointing season they don't make the playoff.
But I think they need to be in that conversation
we get to November whatever it is. First second, when

(08:51):
the first playoff rankings come out, they need to be
in that.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Top twenty five.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Now, whether they all get into it the twelve team
event or not, I don't know. Oh, but they they
got to be part of the conversation. I think if
they are off the off the radar that all of November,
that that's that's not good.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Be in the conversation for the for the playoff tournament
when the calendar turns and the first rankings come out.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
But Dick and I and Jackson.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Have talked about this, that does that mean nine to
one in the first ten games before they play Indiana
Oregon can they afford to have two hiccups you think
before those final two regular season.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Games, So they finished with Indiana and organ there's a
last two. Yes, I think that they I mean, if
you're gonna assume they lose both, then yeah, they got
to be nine to one. But you never know, right
they could they could win one of those two. We
have no idea how those teams are going to turn out.
We think they're gonna be really good, but things change Washington.

Speaker 10 (09:51):
Just they can't lose.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
A game that they shouldn't lose, right, you go on
the road against a bowl bound Big Ten team and
you lose that game.

Speaker 10 (10:01):
That's one thing.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
You can't lose a game that they absolutely shouldn't lose.
To Me's that's kind of where it starts when the
games you're supposed to win.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
His third year.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
In his third year and Tucson Fish went nine and three.
They were one of the biggest surprises in the country
that year. And I think he's you know, he's had
enough time, and his offensive line should be better, his
quarterbacks should be better, and they should be a real
relevant football program.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Well, and also on the defensive side, I saw the
I think it was the times that put out what
Ryan Walters has done in year two. At his other
two stints at Missouri, his defense went from twenty five
points to game to nineteen points a game in year two.
At Illinois, went from twenty two points a game to
thirteen points a game in year two, and last year

(10:50):
he only allowed nineteen points a game for Washington.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
So he's not gonna drop it that much.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
But could you see this defense, you know, following that trend,
you know, averaging fifteen sixteen points, because that's a playoff
type defense.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
It is somewhere in that range. But to me, the
question isn't the defense, it's the offense. Yeah, right, it's
they have got to score against the better teams on
their schedule.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
They can't go seven.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Points you know against Indiana, seven against Oregon, that kind
of thing. They got to show they can move the
ball and get in the end zone against top twenty
five competition. That to me is the whole question for
the season for them, and that starts upfront. Frankly, I mean,
the offensive line's got.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
To be better.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah, I think they will be better offensive line.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
This is the best line I think jet Fish has
had since he's been here.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
A lot. That's why I've got him where I do.
That's why I rank him.

Speaker 10 (11:47):
I think it's gonna be better.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Right Well, jet Fish said something interesting the year day
after the spring game was over, and maybe it's just
him being optimistic, he said, Look, there's a chance to
Mont Williams plays three more years here, which is five
years total for the five for five things are that
the under he's gonna play this year, he's gonna play
two more on campus at Montlake. Where do you say
the odds are and demon Williams playing five years at Washington?

Speaker 5 (12:11):
John Wow?

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, way definitely less than fifty to fifty. But the
thing is if he's doing if he's playing that fifth year,
that means he wasn't good enough as a fourth year
player to feel comfortable that his end a.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Draft position, right right.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
That's that's what I would take from it. That he's saying,
I'm gonna earn more money from nil as a fifth
year player for Washington than I would as a you know, fifth,
sixth round pick in the NFL. And that, to me
would say that his career as a performer doesn't doesn't
maybe match the expectations people have for him right now, Frankly,

(12:50):
Washington would be better off if he goes to the
NFL after his fourth year, because that would mean that
he's been a high level quarterback.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
John, do you like the change of the CFP rules
to allow the one seed to kind of pick their
path that they want, followed by the two seed getting
the opportunity.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
I mean, that's that.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Seems to be a pretty sizable change.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, it is. I think it's good.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I think you should.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
They need to, you know, make it worthwhile, make winning
your conference championship game worthwhile. I think that's part of
the reason they're doing it. There's so much talk about
the conference championship games not being valuable. You know, the
SEC has had issues with the impact the championship game
has had on its teams in the playoffs. I think
that's part of what it is. Is is they want

(13:37):
to give teams a reason to play to win in
their conference championships.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
As crazy as.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
That sounds, that's kind of where things are at this point.
They are they are, you know, losing their relevance very quickly.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, John Willner, great stuff, Manu, and we appreciate you
putting U dub seventeenth because that means Dick Fane's not
angry at you.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I don't like it when Dick Fane's anger, you.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
Know, I don't need it. I don't like being so
he's let's keep.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Saying nice thing. Yeah, no want.

Speaker 9 (14:08):
So.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah too late man, all right. John Wilner with us
on the radio show. I was just thinking about what
he said there about, uh, you know, the odds of
making the playoff in the old PAC twelve versus the
Big ten. Now, keep in mind, if the Huskies had
stayed in the PAC twelve, Oregon would have stayed with him,
so you would have had uw Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State,
and then a bunch of new teams right, Fresno State, Nevada,

(14:33):
San Diego State, whatever, blah blah blah. The question is
not are they making more money? They are making more money.
I think, uh, they're losing out on some money, but
they're also making more money than what they would have
been making if they had stayed in the old PAC
twelve of the Apple deal, is there a better shot
of them making a Final four or excuse me, a
playoff by being one of the how many teams on

(14:55):
average you think Dick ball Park will make the tournament
in a twelve team player from the Big ten.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Four to say four on average, that's right, yeah, four
to five, say four?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Are they better off being one of those four? Are
one of the one or two? Maybe not too well
if Oregon and you dab are both good and both
in the top fifteen. But that's the point, right, Are
they better off being that one or two team or
one of the four teams in a conference that includes Michigan, Oregon,

(15:24):
Ohio State, USC, Penn State, all these other programs?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
And I just think time will bear that.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
I have a firm opinion on this, and it goes
twofold one. The PAC twelve will continue to decline in
influence as the college football playoffs expand.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Which PAC twelve, the PAC twelve that we have now
are the PAC twelve that we would have had a
few doubed state Because that's the question, right, We're not
comparing it to what the PAC twelve looks like today, correct,
We're comparing it to what it would have looked like
if the Huskies an Oregon had stay.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Even if the Huskies in Oregon has stayed, it would
still have been a regional conference.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
That the nation does not pay attention.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
Okay, Secondly, you would have gotten much less talent, which
means that even if you were to go to the
playoffs as a Pac twelve school.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
You would have gotten slammed in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Versus being a Big ten team, which just Oregon in
Washington's recruits, they're just better football players than they would
have been getting in in the Pac twelve. You would
not have been able to compete with Big ten and
SEC teams once you.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Got into the playoffs. If you're from the.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Pac twelve, well, I mean, look, I don't know if
I agree with that part. I do agree with you
that I think they're better off of the Big ten, right,
I just think financially talent wise, they're better off in
the Big ten. I'm not saying a team from that
conference could not have made a run, but I do
agree with the general point that they would be getting
better talent, better coverage, better players. Everything's better in this
conference because I think people tend to forget the chicken

(16:50):
crap perception of the Pac twelve. Even when USC, Oregon
and you DUBB all played together. I mean, all of
a sudden, the conference flows up like well, maybe it
wasn't that bad.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
No, it was that bad. It was terrible.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Leadership was terrible, the marketing was terrible, the perception was awful.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
All those things were bad. So I think they are
better off.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
But I do think there is some room for the
opposite side that wonders. Can we be as competitive as
we want to be? Can we make championships? Can we
make the college Football Playoff Tournament as consistently as we
want to in this conference? Versus what we would have
had access to if we had stayed with Oregon in

(17:32):
a new look PAC twelve that did not include the
LA schools.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Let's do this. We're gonna break Julio Rodriguez. You're ready,
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Speaker 3 (17:56):
All right, we are back on a busy Tuesday night
right here on three three KJRFM, And man, what an opportunity.
What do you say we go across the streets to
t Mobile Park, joining us right now on the radio
show number forty four, Your center fielder Julio Rodriguez joining
us on the radio show before tonight's game two of

(18:17):
three against Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Julio, how you doing, man.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How you doing boys?

Speaker 5 (18:22):
We're good, We're good.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Hell of a win last night. Tell us about that.
How to feel to get a win last night? Game one,
kickoff a series against the best team in baseball record
wise so far.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
Man, Oh, it was great. It was great.

Speaker 11 (18:35):
I felt like the fans and everybody was saw into
the game. We had a great crowd on a Monday,
so it was it was just awesome, you know, to
be able to get the win for the fans and
we all enjoyed it.

Speaker 8 (18:48):
Cool.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Let'll just talk about your start to the season, because
I mean it's no surprise. You have been a second
half hitter usually and you're you're out to your best
first two months that you've ever had. What has been
the different it's in twenty twenty six, so early in
the season at the.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
Dish, I mean, I just feel like, you know, if
I after some experience, you know, this is about my
fifth year, I feel like, you know, I know myself
a little bit better and I'm being able to play
better at bats and you know, clean up some teams
that that maybe I used to do in the past,
you know, So I'm just thankful for that, and like

(19:24):
you said, yeah, this is like kind of my best
start and like hopefully well continue to be on and
help the team win.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Well, give us, Julio some details if you can't.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I'm always curious when you say you wanted to clean
some stuff up, share with us if you don't mind,
maybe a couple of things that you wanted to work
on this offseason that you already felt like you're you're
starting to clean up.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
I just say, you like approach wise of the play
and like things like that, and that's that's probably like
the biggest one. It's just kind of understanding myself more
as a heater and like nderstanding one of the other
guys on the on the other teams that are trying
to do to me, and it's kind of like build
plans for that. I feel like that's that's where you
know I've had success.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
Well, you know, every every every every game is a
new game. Every game. You know, you always have to
adjus this is game my adjustment.

Speaker 11 (20:09):
But I feel like, you know, I'm just sending myself
better have definitely helped me out.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Julio went, at what point did you go from young
buck on this team that kind of looks up to
the veterans to one of those veteran leaders that other
others look to.

Speaker 9 (20:27):
I mean, I just I still feel young.

Speaker 11 (20:28):
You know, I definitely been around a little bit a
little bit, but I still feel young, and you know,
I feel like I'm transitioning still obviously, like we have
some younger guys on the team, but we also have
some older ones. So I just kind of continue to
embrace the time that I'm here and just trying to support,
you know, the younger, younger guys are that are coming
in a little bit more every time, and you know,

(20:50):
I just I feel I'm in that transitioning process still.

Speaker 9 (20:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, I remember the last time, or maybe a couple
of times ago that we spoke, Julio and Julio Rodriguez
with us on the radio show that you you came
on the air with us and you said, look, guys,
I'm twenty three years old, right, I'm I'm twenty two
to twenty three years old.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm just kind of getting going in this game. Do
you still because you mentioned you still feel young.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Do you still feel like there's a lot about this
game that you don't know yet that you have to
figure out how to do certain things and react in
certain situations or is that maybe now starting to be
behind you you think.

Speaker 11 (21:25):
I mean, I feel like that's something that you never
lived behind and obviously that I definitely know my way
around a little bit better and all that, But I
feel like this game is always teaching you something and
you can never like have it all figure out.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
So I just feel like, I would.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
Say, learning and keeping my mind open to two new
things because this game, this is the beauty of this game. Yeah,
I was using something something new to learn and to
kind of evolving too.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
Julio Rodriguez joining us here on KJR.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Julia, one thing that really helped you guys advance in
the playoffs, You guys were really really clean defensively. Do
you feel like you've been as clean defensively thus far
this year and if not, why do you think that?

Speaker 10 (22:06):
Is?

Speaker 11 (22:10):
I played definitely that there's been like a lot of
players though maybe that we can.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
Have like done better.

Speaker 11 (22:14):
And since I that, but you know, I play at
the team you always go through two tough times, you know,
it could be like even I was, like, we're a
really good offensive team too, and like sometimes we go
to some funds and you know, I fled. I just
got outside of baseball. But I know that I know
what this team is capable of, and like I just
know we're really good in both ends of the of
the play of the baseball game.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Well, I I think I know the answer, Julio.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I just want to hear you say it because it
gets me excited to hear you say it.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
What do you think this team is capable of? Honestly
tell us?

Speaker 11 (22:45):
I mean, I mean, just definitely getting out of the way,
you know, I felt that's the goal that we all
have for these teams.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Just kind of I.

Speaker 11 (22:53):
Feel like last year were just one game out of
the worst series and they're playing that you know, special
game and just that's that's that's a mentality for this year.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
I feel like we were hungry and we just want
more for us.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Yeah, well, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
It's been fifty years for us, so we're starving to
death over here, man. And I got to ask you
because that was hard for me to get over as
a fan. It was hard for Dick, I know it
was hard for Mariner fans to get over. That's something
that stays with you, stays with you for a while, right,
It impacts your mood obviously when you're at work. I mean, hell, Julio,
we're sitting here at Jimmy's that night watching Game seven,

(23:28):
the damn Seahawks are playing across the street.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
I had no desire to go in there. I mean
I just went home.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I wanted nothing else to do besides go home and
literally freaking cry like a baby after that night.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
How did you handle that?

Speaker 9 (23:41):
Man?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
How did you handle that Game seven loss?

Speaker 4 (23:47):
For me?

Speaker 11 (23:48):
Obviously, Like it was tough. It was tough to lose
out there. You put so much into it, like a.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
Whole year and all, dad.

Speaker 11 (23:56):
But you know, I also understood that, you know, if
I actually want to what, I continue to play in
the playoffs and you know, get to where I want
to get, like being part of this team.

Speaker 9 (24:06):
But I just needed to get better, you know, And
like I started looking.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
At things objectively and understood that, you know, the year
was over and that we got to you know, get
better and come back stronger next year to come and
receive these times.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
So That's kind of how I took it and try.

Speaker 11 (24:21):
To make the best out of it and grow, because
that's how that's how you can do at that point
after you lose, like that's all you can really do.
You learn from it and try to get better for
next year.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
What did that run do for the confidence of your
baseball team?

Speaker 8 (24:34):
Because you always thought.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
That you could get that far in the playoffs. You
always thought you could be a World Series team. But
now you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that
you guys have what it takes to go to the
World Series.

Speaker 8 (24:45):
So what did that do for you last year?

Speaker 9 (24:48):
There's a lot of confirmation, you know.

Speaker 11 (24:50):
I feel like, you know, like a lot of affirmation too,
like that we can actually do it.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
You know, it was a reality like we were then
you just seeing the playoffs. So like I feel like
knowing that I kind of see it because get it
all was getting closer and closer.

Speaker 11 (25:03):
I just feel like, just just gives a team hungreds.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Julio Rodriguez always dreat to hear your voice. We're across
the street at Jimmy's. Next time we're here, why don't
you come over and have a cocktail with us? Before
the game and we're talk in person. All right, coffee done,
But whatever you want, man, we got some nice, nice
new menu items here. Got a nice new Reuben sandwich
Meat Paul sandwich for you. So we're waiting for you.

(25:27):
But hey, best of luck, thanks again for doing this,
and we'll talk to.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
Us, right, Ah, I beg you see you?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, thanks pal. That that sounds honestly like a great
idea for an auction item. Man, come to Jimmy's and
hang out with Julio Rodriguez and have a cocktail before
a game. Have to be in a night he's got off, right,
I mean even better if it was a day he
was playing. He showed up sauce across the street. But
somebody would buy that, don't you Like?

Speaker 7 (25:49):
What if he came over one day with us just deciding,
you know this, I'm gonna take him up on this, right,
had a couple of cocktails and then went four for
five with two knocks.

Speaker 8 (25:58):
Yeah, and he'd be like, hey, can I do that again?

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Hey, man, there's no rule against drinking before games, and
the Mariners may have a rule in their clubhouse against
doing it. I have no idea, but as far as
I know there's no rule that baseball says you can't
have a beer before you go play a game.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
What the hell you're tell me?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Guys don't wake up and have freaking bloody Mary's with
their breakfast in the morning or a little Bailey's in coffee.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
The hell's the difference, man? And you know me, whatever works,
go for it.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
But look, I mean he's obviously now a different player
than he's been you know early in the years. OPS
is still not where you want it to be at
seven thirty nine, but he looks a lot more comfortable
now than I think he's done after the first four years.
And mump number one.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
If you would have told me on Sinco de Mayo
Julio's OPS was seven thirty nine right at the beginning
of the year, I would have said, where do I
bleeping sign.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Right for that? What does bleeping stand for?

Speaker 9 (26:51):
By?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Ah effing okay? Gotchay? Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean he's
got fi.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I think he's got a seven thirty nine OPS this year, right,
So let's just go back. Can look thirty six games
a year ago? Right, Let's go back and look and
see where he was after thirty six games last year.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Want to do this. What is his OPS? You said
seven nine?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
His OPS last year after thirty six games seven thirty two?

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Is that right? Yes?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Go back in seamore thirty two, the year before thirty
six games twenty twenty four. Talk amongst yourselves, YadA, YadA, YadA,
six fourteen, two years ago he was terrible. So is
his OPS as well? Over one hundred points higher than
what it was two years ago. But I mean it
should be even higher than that, right, But this is progress.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
There's no question the guy is making progress.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
I was going to go look and compare it to
where Griffy was after you realize he's played six hundred
and twenty six games already. Juvio Ronrigez, I remember being
right here in this exact spot when he signed his
extension in his rookie year.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Was it like August or whatever?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Two right late late in the year when they announced
that big deal for Julio. And here we are four
years later and the guys already in year five in
Major League baseball. Man, So it's it's just unbelievable how
time has flown with this kid. But look, I mean
it's I'm not gonna say it's his team. I think
it's more Cal Rowley's team, but right now it feels

(28:15):
like there's an opportunity for anybody to make this their
team because it's kind of wide open.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Well, it also feels like Julio he said, yeah, I
still feel young, but it almost feels like Julio is.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
One of the old guard now where it never felt.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Like that before.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
I mean, Julio feels like a leader on this baseball team.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
No question.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
All right, we're gonna break Brian Schmetzer, head coach and
the sounder.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
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Speaker 3 (28:51):
A big thanks to our friend Julio Rondriguez for joining
us on the radio show. We actually talked to Julio
about four hours ago and said, look, man, we got
Brian Schmetzer on the air five forty five. He said,
I'll come on, but I ain't going on after Schmeitzer,
No way if I'm coming on, I'm coming on before Schmitzer.
I'm not gonna have to follow that guy. No way
could I fill those shoes. So sorry, coach, but Julio

(29:12):
wanted to come on before you, so now we have
you on now, So sorry, and.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
He deserves to be on before me. I mean, that's it.
I feel honored that I'm going after Julio.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
And why did you?

Speaker 10 (29:23):
I mean you guys were talking about drinking beer before games. No,
he's got to focus on the ball.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
He's gotta eat and eye coordination can okay?

Speaker 5 (29:31):
All right, time out.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're telling me that you never drank before a game
when you played back in the day.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Come on, come on.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
Well, yeah, my over thirty Cavern League, I love this
well sponsored. We were sponsored by the Addict down in
Madison Park and we yeah, we go have a few
beers and play some ball, for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
So what's the hell's the difference between your thirty over
beer league and the Mariners. There's no difference, for God's sakes, hey, listen.
We talked last week about the trap game potential with
Sporting Kansas City being one of the worst teams in
the MLS.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Is a one to one draw? Is that a disappointment
to you in your mind.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
Yeah, I mean we got off to just a crazy
start ross Rocks, you know, leading goal scorer on the
squad gets us a one nothing lead.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
You know, the next ten minutes toffee.

Speaker 10 (30:24):
We weren't just like all over I don't know, they
didn't even touch the ball. And then we make one mistake,
and just one mistake in a game, they tie it up.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
They start feeling like, okay, well, you know, maybe we
can stay hang with us.

Speaker 10 (30:41):
And you know, we pounded them with twenty four shots.
I think our expected goals is two point five or
some somewhere two point seven, but we only scored one
and it's a one to one draw, and it's like
kissing your sister.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Well, that mistake was by Christian rolled On. It was
a hell of a pass if he played for Kansas
City though. I mean he got it right to his
right to his feet.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
I mean, that's got to be the worst pass of
his career. And you know, just talk.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
About what what happened there, and what did he say
after the match to you about what happened there.

Speaker 10 (31:12):
Well, he took responsibility to his teammates and that's what's important.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Look, it happens. Look, stuff happens there. You know, Manchester City's.

Speaker 10 (31:21):
In the race for the Premier League title and they
were at Everton. Their defender did the exact same thing,
passed the right to.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
One of the Everton guys. They drew.

Speaker 10 (31:30):
Now Arsenal's in the league. Man, it happens in the EPL,
it happens in MLS. Christian's a tough kid mentally, he snapped.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Out of it.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
It's like, hey, we got to move forward. We've got
to play, and you know that that stuff happens and
you can't take it back, and we're going to just
you know, learn from it. You know, he's got to
have better vision, you know, you's you got to figure
out where the opponents are.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
But you know, one mistake cost us.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Uh So, does he's talk to the guys about it?
Does he step up in the locker room at halftime
speak to his guys about the mistake?

Speaker 5 (31:59):
How does he handle it?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah? Yeah, he was.

Speaker 10 (32:02):
He was talking to people at halftime and then after
the game. You know, I did a little summary of
what I thought and looking at him and he's shaking
his head. So he's totally comfortable taking responsibility for it.
But like I said, we're learning from it, We're moving on.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
So you got moving on to Saturday, San Diego at Lumen.
Does it kind of help when you have a disappointing
draw or a loss. Does it kind of help motivate
for the next game?

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Kind of?

Speaker 10 (32:29):
I mean I would, I would say that's true, Dick.
I think the guys are looking for this this whole week.
I mean we've got a gauntlet of you know, three
games in a week starting with San Diego, who's a
good squad, and you know.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
It's it's gonna be tough.

Speaker 10 (32:44):
So the guys want to get back right up on
the horse and continue to play well. I mean, look,
we're still fifth in the Supporter Shield, we're fourth in
the West, who got one or two games in hand,
So this three game week's really going to be critical.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well, let's talk about what's happening with the San Diego team.
Coach Brian Schmetzer with us on the air, first place
in the West last year and their first every year
and now they've had a rough second year.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
What are you seeing from San Diego.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Well, they're still a good team. They still play the
way they want to play.

Speaker 10 (33:13):
I mean the coach, Mikey Bars he's the young guy,
so he's learning, you know, the first year, you know,
a sophomore slump, all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
He's learning.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
He's still got some good players. He's dealing with a
little bit of injury problems, and you know, the challenge
is he continue to stick with how he wants to play,
like you know, passing out of the back. They play
out of the back, almost overplay out of the back safe,
but that's his style and at some point you're gonna
maybe think about cutting your losses and suddenly suddenly changing

(33:45):
the way you want to play.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
Let's talk about injuries.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Coach.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
Do you think we'll see Yamar before.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
The World Cup?

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Dick I can. I can break this bit of news
for you on the show.

Speaker 10 (33:57):
Looks he had he's been having regular MRIs on that
hamstring and he just had one yesterday and it is
not healed one hundred percent. There's still got some scar
tissue in there. That's not quite the way the docs
and our trainers like it. So we're probably going to
have Gaymar sit out until after.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
The World Come okay, does that change anything for you? Guys?
Have to make a move activate somebody change your offense.

Speaker 10 (34:27):
Nothing okay, okay, Alice, the ruled ends been doing well.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah yeah, how about Russ Snack and Ariola came back
to the bench again down the city.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Are they ready to start again if you need him too.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, they're ready to start.

Speaker 10 (34:40):
We had we had a lively training session today. You know,
to Dick's point, the guys are sharp in training because
they know, you know, those guys are veteran guys, and
they weren't in the starting lineup last game, so they
went their spots back.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Though training has been good. You know, I got a
good vibe.

Speaker 10 (34:56):
I got a good vibe from training, and we should
have some strong performance.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Is with three games at home?

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Well, coach, you got to be commiserating a little bit
with the fans up north in Vancouver because the white
Caps could be in the very same situation as we
were here in Seattle with the Sonics in two thousand
and eight. So just talk about your feelings on that
whole situation.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Well, we were gut it when the Sonics left town.

Speaker 10 (35:22):
I mean it was like the rug was pulled out
of here, out from under you. You know, Sophy, you
talked about the last segment about you know what it
felt like, you know, losing to the Blue Jays in
Game seven. I mean, those are those are critical moments
in anybody's lifetime. You know, you take you get something
taken away from you. It stings, it hurts. So I
feel bad for the people up in Vancouver. You know,

(35:44):
the white Caps have been around since nineteen you know,
seventy five and seventy four, seventy.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Five, and they're proud franchised and I think, you.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
Know, geographically it fits really good for us in Portland
and in Vancouver. I think the Cascadia Cup is certainly
an important rivalry in the Northwest.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
So it's it's it's big news. We talk about it
all the time. I hope, I hope for the best.

Speaker 10 (36:10):
I hope they can find a solution up in Vancouver.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, no, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Well, look, there's a rivalry, but there's it's a rivalry
that you almost want to have, right with those two
other teams, And there's hatred, there's animosity, but it would
kind of suck for that to go away, no doubt.
All right, man, listen, great stuff, and uh, next time
we hear of a player having a cocktail or two
before a game, we'll be sure and not tell you
about it.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
All right.

Speaker 10 (36:32):
By the way, if you have what about the coaching staff,
well that's fair, and coaching staff before the game.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I'll tell you what, man, there's been a few games
that I've seen you guys, coach, where I could have
sworn you guys were having drinks before kidding.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Hey, go go get him, Go get him on Saturday. Man,
appreciate this coach.

Speaker 10 (36:55):
All right, all right, take care guys, all right.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
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